#Need help cutting card in my Evelyn the Covetous deck

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warped flare
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no expereince with some high price cards like [[tinybones the pickpocket]]

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novel bramble
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Tinybones in general fits well here, all versions

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[[Tinybones bauble]] also

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novel bramble
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So I know I gotta cut a couple Boardwipes at the very least.

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Probably too much ramp too

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Maybe cut lands to 36

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Or cut more ramp leave lands to 38

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Kefka is certainly not a fast setup

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[[The locust god]] probably too pricey

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novel bramble
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6 mana for a 4/4, makes 1/1 tokens, goes back to hand when killed to pay 6 again for it, dunno

warped flare
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casting things from opponents grave is nice for value

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idk about getting on the good side of others tho

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although they still have to be logical of their threat assessment in high power

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so i think thief effect is always a lot of push and pull

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yeah locust god has to be a win con at that mana cost/ curve

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no one really want to cast it twice

warped flare
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the same way no one uses that second ability to draw

novel bramble
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Made a couple more cuts. I kept 3 creature board wipes, I think protecting my life total is important here. Not sure if I need the whole Blue counterspell package in this one since blink act as protection from most targeted stuff.

novel bramble
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What is that card in rakdos I think. That pings everytime someone cast a spell for its mana value?

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It cost around 5 or 6

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[[Kaervek the merciless]]

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novel bramble
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Yeah I like him just as an end game boss

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I fought vs one guy with this on board and it was pretty overwhelming

novel bramble
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Didnt have removal for it, and it just destroyed one opponent that couldnt pop off.

novel bramble
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6 cuts left

warped flare
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7 cost is about the biggest down side

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other negative point would be able to do too much so it is always has a big target on it;s back

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and it does depends on other player's casting spells

warped flare
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idk what to cut between those triple pips / high cost spell or something that is more niche

novel bramble
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Yeah its hard, everything is good or has its place

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gotta cut based on what I dont need as much

warped flare
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niche [[Shrieking Affliction]] [[Containment Construct]]
higher cmc [[Bone Miser]] [[Demon of Dark Schemes]]

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novel bramble
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probably shrieking

warped flare
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i dont think you discard yourself as much to get every value off con construct

novel bramble
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kefka

warped flare
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bonemiser has nice payoff, can be reanimated unless geth grimoire

novel bramble
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Bone stays, he's really good

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Demon needs to stay or get replaced by another board wipe

warped flare
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fair

novel bramble
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Since I got a ton of recursion his mana cost isnt super relevant

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and he can be blinked for a -4 on board

warped flare
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[[Puppeteer Clique]] is less controllable

novel bramble
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Or just as a recurring board wipe

zealous ridgeBOT
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Creature โ€” Faerie Wizard
Flying
When this creature enters, put target creature card from an opponent's graveyard onto the battlefield under your control. It gains haste. At the beginning of your next end step, exile it.
Persist (When this creature dies, if it had no -1/-1 counters on it, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control with a -1/-1 counter on it.)
3/2

warped flare
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and other than closet, cant blink the stolen creature

novel bramble
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Its a fun card but at this point the cuts need to be hard

warped flare
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well and deadeye but i assume dead eye is a combo win

novel bramble
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Deadeye is more relevant with Kefka

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and has a lot more ETB targets

warped flare
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yeah

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thats why i think the cut would be on pupper

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unless you can cut lower curve stuff

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and make up for the higher than 3 mana stuff

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wow kitten gotten expensive

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good thing i had my a while ago

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is [[Rankle, Master of Pranks]] ever bad?

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warped flare
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evasion with haste and discard

novel bramble
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When I dont wanna discard or sac something I guess

warped flare
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i feel like it is too important

novel bramble
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Yeah same, I'd keep him over Puppeteer

warped flare
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[[Abyssal Harvester]] similar to puppet

zealous ridgeBOT
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Creature โ€” Demon Warlock
manat: Exile target creature card from a graveyard that was put there this turn. Create a token that's a copy of it, except it's a Nightmare in addition to its other types. Then exile all other Nightmare tokens you control.
"Till the soil, spare no soul. / Neath the darkness, nightmares grow." โ€”Children's nursery rhyme
3/2

warped flare
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it depends on what hits the grave

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but it cannot wait

novel bramble
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[[Tinybones the pickpocket]] is the worst of the 3 Tinybones, but he's 1 mana deathtouch

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warped flare
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yeah

novel bramble
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Abyssal works great with Kefka methinks

warped flare
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as you see, because even it is a deck that is meant for higher power

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some match ups there are just no creatures

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for you to take

novel bramble
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even then its a 1/1 deathtouch

warped flare
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hence why i pick out puppeteer

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tinybones can hit non creatures too

novel bramble
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Oh yeah

warped flare
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abyssal is nice for gravehate

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or self sac

novel bramble
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Or when stuff is discarded

warped flare
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i very much prefer to have it but as the fun and versatile card

novel bramble
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Id rather hit higher mana cost too

warped flare
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exactly

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hmmm is [[victimize]] worth its place...

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warped flare
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excluding anger wonder

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31 creatures including commander

novel bramble
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lots of ETB

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Anger is more important than Wonder

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but Wonder is just so good generally

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I dont think I wanna cut it

warped flare
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i would probably cut third path before victimize in this case

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is Tidecaller mentor an important piece

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i know oyu will hit threshold

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just a matter of how fast and when is it relevant

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i think it is better than [[oversold cemetery]] by a bit

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novel bramble
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Ehh

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He's certainly not a early game card

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Oversold can just cast it then forget about it

warped flare
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I think My cuts are: Shrieking Affliction, Containment Construct, Puppeteer Clique, Feldon of the Third Path

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feldon is nice and repeatable, just on the slower side

novel bramble
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I agree with shrieking and pupp

warped flare
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and lot of mana investment

novel bramble
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The other 2 I'd like to test them before

warped flare
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np

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making a token on opponent end step and one more on your turn

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same as [[mimic vat]] in this case

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warped flare
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keeping two of the same creature on board is really interesting

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but it does take at least a full turn rotation and mana open

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without [[training ground]] it just cost so much mana

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warped flare
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scryfall dont die on me

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i guess i did somewhat forgot the upside on Containment Construct

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it lets you PLAY lands

novel bramble
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Yeah, easy discard target then

warped flare
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so it is better than madness

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i doubt you would cut deadeye despite 6 initial cost and 2 more for each activation

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the value is too good

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and can be cheated out

novel bramble
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Yeah no I wouldnt cut him

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welp gtg, ttyl

warped flare
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feldon not the best with deadeye unless you win within a few turns after

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cya

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displace is weaker, can cut one with all the repeatable blink eff

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oh lol, imagine this trigger on the stack

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and flicker commander to discard their last card

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force the life loss will be satisfying atl east for me

novel bramble
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I've already cut deep into the blink package, whats left is what survived the purge. Displace is weaker but in the way that I'm using it its the same as GF

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Flicking a land untaps it, right?

novel bramble
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Shit, I forgot about [[Nicol Bolas the ravager]]

zealous ridgeBOT
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Legendary Creature โ€” Elder Dragon
Flying
When Nicol Bolas enters, each opponent discards a card.
mana4manaumanabmanar: Exile Nicol Bolas, then return him to the battlefield transformed under his owner's control. Activate only as a sorcery.
4/4

Nicol Bolas, the Arisen
Legendary Planeswalker โ€” Bolas
+2: Draw two cards.
โˆ’3: Nicol Bolas deals 10 damage to target creature or planeswalker.
โˆ’4: Put target creature or planeswalker card from a graveyard onto the battlefield under your control.
โˆ’12: Exile all but the bottom card of target player's library.
Loyalty: 7

novel bramble
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It fits really well

warped flare
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yeah, if you cant cut lands, ramp, or removal

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then the only thing leave is the least overlapped weakest synergy

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instead of blinking one thing, play another big thing instead

novel bramble
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Heres bello artifact btw. I went through the entire list of artifacts 4+ in the game, took anything that passed as decent and put it in there

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Ill take a dufferent approach in deck building this time

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Ill try the: 38 lands, 20 ramp, 12 draw blabla type of approach

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Then make a gameplan with whats left. I found a couple good cards in dragons that can help me end games

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Like the [[Hellkite charger]] for example

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novel bramble
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Heres the real deck. Now I need to reduce the amount of ramp to 20-22. Everything left is really good value so I'm having difficulties finding what to cut

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Anything with multiple usages like ramp and draw is likely to stay

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And considering that the deck will run an overwhelming amount of artifacts, I need to make sure a Cyclonic rift/ Vandalblast doesnt kick me out of the game instantly

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So lands values a bit more than artifacts I think

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But not to the point that good synergies are ignored

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I think I need at the very least 7 pieces of 1 mana ramp

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8 would probably be ideal, giving me 50% to get one in my first 8 cards

novel bramble
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Welp, ramp will be 24. I just cant find a reason to get rid of anything, and I ended up keeping the artifact ramp pieces

warped flare
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i was like... oh thats a lot of artifact, then saw the deck size

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working overtime to cut this down

novel bramble
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You better read the whole convo before cutting down on the 260 card deck

warped flare
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gtg 2 work

novel bramble
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Np, I'm going to my first draft at my LGS for Edge

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Legendary Artifact Planeswalker โ€” Equipment
As long as The Aetherspark is attached to a creature, The Aetherspark can't be attacked and has "Whenever equipped creature deals combat damage during your turn, put that many loyalty counters on The Aetherspark."
+1: Attach The Aetherspark to up to one target creature you control. Put a +1/+1 counter on that creature.
โˆ’5: Draw two cards.
โˆ’10: Add ten mana of any one color.
Loyalty: 4

warped flare
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oh wait nvm

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bello exclude equipments

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but still falls off

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once the creature is no longer a creature

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[[sculpting steel]] should work here

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warped flare
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btw [[Disciple of Freyalise // Garden of Freyalise]] is availiable at my local at $2.6 +tax, should i get one

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Creature โ€” Elf Druid
When this creature enters, you may sacrifice another creature. If you do, you gain X life and draw X cards, where X is that creature's power.
"Freyalise is gone, but her song lives on."
3/3

Garden of Freyalise
Land
As this land enters, you may pay 3 life. If you don't, it enters tapped.
manat: Add manag.
The Juniper Order safeguards secret places that still thrum with traces of Freyalise's life-giving magic.

novel bramble
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Lands time! Since I got so many colorless spells, I can have fun with the mana base. I wont need a ton of green or red mana, so theres a ton of very interesting lands to play. I put all that interested me in the Sideboard. I'll put the usual fetch/pain/shock/etc lands ofc, but everything else is free. Do you see anything?

warped flare
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too late, but that technically saved my $5 ๐Ÿ˜…

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$2+ is the high end stuff, i just use basics instead

novel bramble
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Welp, first draft is done. Only one card to cut and this is ready for a playtest. I like the draft; it looks strong on paper.

I wish I could find space for [[Lodestone Golem]] and [[horizon stone]]. At this point I feel like everything is a sidegrade.

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warped flare
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idk how this deck work with horizon stone

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i only ever played that card in one deck before

novel bramble
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You just never lose unspent mana

warped flare
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and it is kinda a onesided ... there is a green enchantment that does that

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but for all players

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but only 4 mana

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its a card that doesnt see play

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so i m not sure what difference this stone makes

novel bramble
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[[Unwinding clock]] and horizon stone together means huge mana turns

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warped flare
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oh yeah definitely need some untap blockers too

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afk

warped flare
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gtg to work again

warped flare
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i also misread unwinding clock as [[clock of omen]] at first glance

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warped flare
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didnt noticed how similar they are til now

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warped flare
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[[Blazing Bomb ]]

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novel bramble
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Feels gimmicky, and what would you exchange it with?

warped flare
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too many new cards i will have to look through each one first

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๐Ÿ˜…

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btw, does ritual count as ramp for you? gruul has access to both spirit guide

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or not really since you cant keep the mana for the following turn

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1 drop mana dork you missed [[boreal druid]] i guess [[carpet of flowers]] has the doctor who cheap reprint

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warped flare
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not quite T1 ramp but [[curse of opulence]] in your attack based deck is nice

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warped flare
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if you can take the risk, [[eladamri's vineyard]] [[magus of the vineyard]]

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warped flare
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[[joraga tree speaker]] doesnt allow for T2 early play but make turns afterward explosive

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warped flare
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if card advantage isnt a problem, anything that resemble [[krosan wayfarer]] is nice

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warped flare
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this one in particular you can wait since it put the land in untapped

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i am also willing to go [[orcish lumberjack]] for my ramp

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warped flare
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or [[tinder wall]] ritual

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warped flare
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those two ramp were basically in my "bracket 4" deck before bracket 4 existed

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[[sakura-tribe scout]] is nice if you draw lot of lands in this deck

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warped flare
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in which case, many more similar effect [[skyshroud ranger]]

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warped flare
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[[veteran explorer]] doesnt fit your style

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warped flare
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[[territory forge]] is probably your "meta-game" card

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warped flare
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in my games, this card is would very much be a hit or miss

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maybe only works 25% percent of the time, against like 3/10 players

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and in bello, if you exile an equipment, it cant attach itself

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no way to flicker to switch target

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i kinda want things to cheat into play to avoid casting cost [[audacious reshapers]]

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warped flare
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i wonder if [[cryptothrall]] do more than gaea's gift

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warped flare
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cant protect commander but its strong on attack

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otherwise, boots/ greaves are some of the best protection that is repeatable

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in general i like playing [[spire of industry]] when the deck is artifact based

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warped flare
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anyways the amount of MDFC makes me want to add the artifact that bounce permanents to your hand

novel bramble
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I want to find space for greaves+Platinum angel

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at the same time it means that the entire table is now in kill the Raccoon mode

novel bramble
warped flare
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i think [[Toski, Bearer of Secrets]] i prefer this draw engine
[[inkmoth urn]]
[[frogmite]]

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warped flare
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urn's downside is removed in this deck

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even if its there i probably would mention it

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i doubt frogmite ever cost more than 3

novel bramble
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Blink is interesting, but is it better than [[Throne of Eldraine]] or [[Guilded lotus]]

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novel bramble
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Btw I tested Shelob and Serah today

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Shelob I couldnt do much because we all died to a combo Chandra's Ignition deck, my fault because I forgot that killing the target of the spell would just fizzle it, and I had the bite spell to kill it. Oh Well. Somebody really liked the deck and wanted to try it so that's a big win for me.

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Serah I became the archenemy really fast and it was a 5 players game. I was able to Avacyn someone for 40 dmg in the air, and the rest of the table did everything they could to kill me. It took them 4 turns so I take that as a win for the deck.

The World Breaker precon won in the end (My deck that I lent) so I'm happy with the results. Serah is really strong, Shelob is weak to just being rushed down I think since theres not much blockers, and the new Precon is really strong too.

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I had to exchange [[Doric's nature's warden]] for [[Ojer Kaslem deepest]] because the proxy that was printed wasnt dual faced for some reason. Ojer came through like a dumptruck so it was all good anyway

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No card found for โ€œDoric's nature's wardenโ€

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Legendary Creature โ€” God
Trample
Whenever Ojer Kaslem deals combat damage to a player, reveal that many cards from the top of your library. You may put a creature card and/or a land card from among them onto the battlefield. Put the rest on the bottom in a random order.
When Ojer Kaslem dies, return it to the battlefield tapped and transformed under its owner's control.
6/5

Temple of Cultivation
Land
(Transforms from Ojer Kaslem, Deepest Growth.)
manat: Add manag.
mana2manag, manat: Transform this land. Activate only if you control ten or more permanents and only as a sorcery.
Chimil gave the Oltec sacred lands. Ojer Kaslem brought them to life.

novel bramble
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[[Casal lurkwood]]

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Legendary Creature โ€” Tiefling Druid
Vigilance
When Casal enters, search your library for a Forest card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
Whenever Casal attacks, you may pay mana1manag. If you do, transform her.
3/3

Casal, Pathbreaker Owlbear
Legendary Creature โ€” Bird Bear
Vigilance, trample
When this creature transforms into Casal, Pathbreaker Owlbear, other legendary creatures you control get +2/+2 and gain trample until end of turn.
At the beginning of your upkeep, transform Casal.
6/6

novel bramble
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Why is it such a problem card.

warped flare
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๐Ÿค”

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you mean the table view it as a threat?

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i would say its because of the curve it enters the board and the value it gives as an anthem

novel bramble
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Nono, just that scryfall doesnt recognize the DnD name, AND that when I tried to make a proxy of it it wouldnt print the reverse face.

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I mean, its still quite a threat giving all my creatures trample and +2+2 for a turn and for 2 mana

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I think I wouldve won with her instead of Ojer, thinking about it. Most of my attacks didnt go through due to tons of blockers

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I learned the hard way that Loss of life=/=damage, with [[Elesh Norn]]

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Legendary Creature โ€” Phyrexian Praetor
Vigilance
Whenever a source an opponent controls deals damage to you or a permanent you control, that source's controller loses 2 life unless they pay mana1.
mana2manaw, Sacrifice three other creatures: Exile Elesh Norn, then return it to the battlefield transformed under its owner's control. Activate only as a sorcery.
3/5

The Argent Etchings
Enchantment โ€” Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter.)
I โ€” Incubate 2 five times, then transform all Incubator tokens you control.
II โ€” Creatures you control get +1/+1 and gain double strike until end of turn.
III โ€” Destroy all other permanents except for artifacts, lands, and Phyrexians. Exile this Saga, then return it to the battlefield (front face up).

novel bramble
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I also didnt realize that people blocking my creatures also activates Elesh Norn. I mightve won there too.

warped flare
novel bramble
# warped flare actually, ojer kinda feels like its not the perfect fit. I mean its good but the...

Dude can come out turn 3, he ramps like crazy every turn he attacks and even if answered he becomes a land. He's def. a major powerhouse IMO.

I even read him wrong at first and didnt understand that you could put a creature AND a land on the field with his effect. Plus the fact that its ANY creature and not limited means that you can get free bombs like Avacyn, Elesh Norn Grand Cenobite or even Ghalta Stampede Tyrant.

He's a better fit than most

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Now, what deck should I do next?

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I looked through a couple of reddit posts and one that seemed interesting and different from my other decks was [[Queen Marchesa]]

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novel bramble
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From what I gathered, its a deck that doesnt want the monarch. You play as a sort of group hug where you give the monarch ASAP and watch the other players attack each other for it, while encouraging them via goading, gifts, and politics.

warped flare
novel bramble
warped flare
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will have to look at that later since i got something busy on my hand i need to finish

novel bramble
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No idea why I dont have a sol ring over Arcane signet here but w/e. Sol ring is better here since I'd rather have Serah on board T2

warped flare
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yea

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T2 serah is good

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i havent got a copy and no time to build new decks

novel bramble
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Alright, I'm set on either [[Queen Marchesa]] or [[Tannuk Steadfast Second]] for my next deck idea

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Legendary Creature โ€” Kavu Pilot
Other creatures you control have haste.
Artifact cards and red creature cards in your hand have warp mana2manar. (You may cast a card from your hand for its warp cost. Exile that permanent at the beginning of the next end step, then you may cast it from exile on a later turn.)
"We're a few bones short of a skeleton crew, Sami, but we've got plenty of spine."
3/5

novel bramble
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There was also [[Garnet princess]] and [[Celestine]] as close seconds

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novel bramble
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[[Celestine the living saint]]

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warped flare
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although being a cast is more interesting by default since you can cheat cast triggers

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its like undyingearth from hand

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i think you already know which one i have the most to talk about

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๐Ÿ˜…

warped flare
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it is definite different even among other mardu identity decks

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if normal mardu is just lot of winnies to attack for lot of damage, and letting things die left and right without any regards for lives

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This one adds the utility and card draw that is somewhat shared around the table. Monarch has always been a really well designed mechanic for multi-player formats

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the draw is slow but consistent, as for the token, it is hard to mass produce more since it depends on turn count. in the case where you are able to keep the monarch on your upkeep, while the commander wouldnt trigger, there are just so many more better payoff cards for keeping the monarch on yourself

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also, i am not sure how the if clause works here if you can put all the triggers on the stack, and then flicker something to get monarch on ETB

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is it possible to get all the benefits

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novel bramble
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I like having decks with different mechanics and identities. Queen will be quite the different beast. Tannuk is simpler imo, cheating in big stuff with powerful ETB is easy to build I think. He's certainly a fun commander though.

Garnet leans hard on the sagas so she would be a very different Selesnya from Serah.

And Celestine is also a different take from the typical mono white. I don't know any other commander that plays with the graveyard in that color.

warped flare
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once you gain enough life, there wont be anything bigger than that amount. therefore it allows for a free reanimate once per turn including the turn it comes in

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grave set up, life gain synergy, get aggro'ed by the table, gain more life back and bring more value creatures back, maybe loop a combo while making sure no one can end the game

novel bramble
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Tannuk working on Artifacts means big scary stuff like [[Portal to phyrexia]] or [[sundering titan]]

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warped flare
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the biggest and unwanted creature is probably draco, normal creatures would have about 4-6 cmc, the really good angles would be in the 7-9 range but are unplayable with normal white ramp

novel bramble
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[[Overlord of the boilerbilges]] [[Skitterbeam battalion]] etc

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Enchantment Creature โ€” Avatar Horror
Impending 4โ€”mana2manarmanar (If you cast this spell for its impending cost, it enters with four time counters and isn't a creature until the last is removed. At the beginning of your end step, remove a time counter from it.)
Whenever this permanent enters or attacks, it deals 4 damage to any target.
5/5

warped flare
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ohhhh [[erratic portal]] if this stays on the board

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novel bramble
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I checked, you can Impending warped creatures

warped flare
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if my blue decks have enough room, i would try to put both the portal and crystal shard in the same deck

warped flare
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i thought you want to attack

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impending is already an alternative cost

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i assume you mean it gives a second alternative cost

novel bramble
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No I mean, you Warp in The overlord, he has haste cauze of Tannuk. You attack so you get 2 triggers.

It leaves in the endstep, you can cast him from exile either by paying his normal cost OR his impending cost

warped flare
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so you pick which cost to pay when you cast a spell

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oh i see

novel bramble
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Tannuk can wrap in anything for 2R

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Warp*

warped flare
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[[mirror of life trapping]] perfect place for this

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warped flare
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idk if i talked to you about this one or not

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the potential to trap someones commander for life

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[[$Skitterbeam battalion]]

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hmm i wonder if it will go up

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although i don t see any copies to buy anyways

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I dont think so, it has limited use

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Its great in Bello and Tannuk

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you shall not die until i consent

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Shes not even an angel

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but all the high cost white creatures are baiscally all angels

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The Imperium wouldnt allow another race to live anyway

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Yeah, I mean cards like [[Angel of the ruins]] are auto include

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How does that ruins them?

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if you can portal to phyrexia lock out the table

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Only the first cast cost 3

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casting it from exile afterward is the full price unless I can cheat it in [[Warped Room]]

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No card found for โ€œWarped Roomโ€

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okay i see, but it still comes down really early and i assume the build around will have flickers and stuff

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[[Warped space]]

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Enchantment โ€” Room
At the beginning of your upkeep, exile the top card of your library. You may play it this turn.
(You may cast either half. That door unlocks on the battlefield. As a sorcery, you may pay the mana cost of a locked door to unlock it.)

Warped Space mana4manarmanar
Enchantment โ€” Room
Once each turn, you may pay mana0 rather than pay the mana cost for a spell you cast from exile.
(You may cast either half. That door unlocks on the battlefield. As a sorcery, you may pay the mana cost of a locked door to unlock it.)

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the cast from exile seems fun for sure

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Its mostly as a control tool for cheap while I probably warp in creatures to hit stuff

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yeah that cast later is just free card advantage

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red only really want to throw cards away for damage

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lot of interesting cards to pair with

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Its like have double triggers for your ETBs

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and theres a lot of good ETBs in red

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but the fundamentals of "red efficiency" stays more or less the same

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Plus Tannuk gives haste so thats not too shabby either

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use every card you got, cast as much as you can like you are storming off, do as much damage on the way out

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[[Cityscape leveler]] Ohh thats a good one too

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yeah thats one of the few expensive cards i own opened from a pack [[$Cityscape leveler]]

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think it dropped a bit

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may have rotated out or somehting

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cast, etb, attack, leave are all good triggers to look for

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the range is pretty wide

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He will be fun to build

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looks like a fun one to play, for myself i may not even buy it unless i see a really cheap copy at the store

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already too many cards, and not enough time to test stuff out

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the "too much money, too little time, and no motivation" adult life mood ๐Ÿ˜…

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btw i think this may work with [[possibility storm]] just because your overall cmc will be high

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Enchantment
Whenever a player casts a spell from their hand, that player exiles it, then exiles cards from the top of their library until they exile a card that shares a card type with it. That player may cast that card without paying its mana cost. Then they put all cards exiled with this enchantment on the bottom of their library in a random order.

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Meh, its a good outlet for me. Commander nights 2 times a week away from the wife and step childrens lol

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5 mana slot avoids the 2 spell 6 mana turn

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and you dont have to worry about things getting warpped away

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idk if i will ever afford children, more so for step children

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oh and the wife too

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[[Extinguisher Battleship]] I like this.

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no one dislike stations for the most part XD

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Well its a boardwipe+something for 2R

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[[invasion of xi]]

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Battle โ€” Siege
(As a Siege enters, choose an opponent to protect it. You and others can attack it. When it's defeated, exile it, then cast it transformed.)
When this Siege enters, create X 2/2 white and blue Knight creature tokens with vigilance.
Defense: 6

Teferi Akosa of Zhalfir
Legendary Planeswalker โ€” Teferi
+1: Draw two cards. Then discard two cards unless you discard a creature card.
โˆ’2: You get an emblem with "Knights you control get +1/+0 and have ward mana1."
โˆ’3: Tap any number of untapped creatures you control. When you do, shuffle target nonland permanent an opponent controls with mana value X or less into its owner's library, where X is the number of creatures tapped this way.
Loyalty: 4

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okay so spacecraft

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isnt a new card type just

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the subtype

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like equipments

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THey're artifacts

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i wonder if thats relevant

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Works with Tannuk's Ability

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wow, i didnt notice tannuk has 5 toughness

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3/5 statline for a red lengendary wth

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He can survive a ton of bullshit

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5 is pretty big in other format

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hence, the Battleship

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[[Pinnacle Kill-Ship]] is the only other one that could be relevant.

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Other spaceships arent that great with Tannuk

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meh just a 3 cost creature removal

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unless there are additional value for casting artifact

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or you really want a station that could become a creature

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i wouldnt even consider the conditional removal

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3 mana is the [[chaos warp]] rate

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instant, any permanent is hard to beat

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Yeah, so only Battleship is worth

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anything flash that could be cool

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Since Tannuk has 5 toughness, you can also spam spells like [[Storm's Wrath]], [[Brotherhood's End]], [[Self-destruct]]

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<.< the boardwipe tribal in coming

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[[Anger of the gods]]

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It could lol

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i think those are cooler as a one off, if the whole deck does it

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it gets repeatitive

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in the case where the deck has [[stuffy doll]]

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Well, you run enough to make sure you get at least one during your game

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[[toralf god of fury]] that s imo when the red wipes gets fun

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Legendary Creature โ€” God
Trample
Whenever a creature or planeswalker an opponent controls is dealt excess noncombat damage, Toralf deals damage equal to the excess to any target other than that permanent.
5/4

Toralf's Hammer mana1manar
Legendary Artifact โ€” Equipment
Equipped creature has "mana1manar, manat, Unattach Toralf's Hammer: It deals 3 damage to any target. Return Toralf's Hammer to its owner's hand."
Equipped creature gets +3/+0 as long as it's legendary.
Equip mana1manar

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or put indestructable, [[basilisk collar]] and or protect red [[sword of war and peace]] to watch the world burn

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too bad with warp, equipment are kinda meh

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Yeah

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i would still do [[swiftfood boot]]

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dont want to lose commander on the rotation to all removals

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But hey, wrap works well with Big Scary Dragons

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and it basically redirect the removal to other player's creatures

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i dont think greaves is needed but it is just a "better" boots

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i really want the flash speed

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whenever it is to make surprise block, get extra things on the end step

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and more on your turn for the alpha strike

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[[Veldaken orrery]]

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No card found for โ€œVeldaken orreryโ€

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dodge all the counterspell that could come your way

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yeah probably want that

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[[Vedalken orrery]]

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expensive orrery

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[[$Vedalken orrery]]

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i think it dropped

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still not cheap

novel bramble
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I'm proxying everything anyway

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more manageable

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it used to be so much stronger when commander was slow

novel bramble
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Honestly, I couldnt be arsed to give money to WOTC or Hasbro. They can go fuck themselves pretty

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when the game is like 2 turns faster in general

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a 4 mana do nothing turn feels awful, especially if someone runs away with the game when you are off guard

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as much as i agree

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i still play and my locals and i want to support the LGS(s) i play at

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I dont when they overprice everything

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i spends on all singles and sleeves this past 5 months or longer

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i want precons too but really hate the premium price tags

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saw some precon restocked

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I got the last 2 precons for 60$ each

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Theres one good store in my city

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the MH3 terrain one is just about $100, not sure if thats worth

novel bramble
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Or to be more blunt: They don't care enough about MTG to overprice their shit

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but overprice is one thin

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thing

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kinda have to match the MSRP to a certain degree

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My thoughts is that since they have a smaller shop, they don't wanna get stuck with products

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which had been messy for some years now

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yeah that too

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selling out is good

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Their main business are Baseball cards

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hockey here i think

novel bramble
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tbh I have no idea how they are still open with Baseball as their front

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some pokemon and few ygo is my assumption

novel bramble
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Because yeah, Hockey is the main sport here

warped flare
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do you have snow over there ๐Ÿ˜…

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They have pokemon, but I didnt see any ygo

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Yeah ofc

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last year there werent too many snow storm

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like one big one

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all the snow must have went else where

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last 2 years it was pretty quiet

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Although yeah, we got like 3 snowstorm in 2 weeks

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it was painful to park

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better prepare for the apocalyse when there are no snow at all

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๐Ÿ˜…

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I kinda wanna make a deck with [[Dr. Eggman]]

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oh lol

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not surprised, villianous choice is a nice flavour / mechanic

novel bramble
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I made this card for my 2nd Bello

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oh right the proxy art i forgot about

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cross off the bard and change it to Artificer XD

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no synergy whatsoever but would be more fitting

novel bramble
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Clearly

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hey guys, i want to rule 0 this creature type that doesnt matter

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no spoilers to the 99 ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Welp, I ended up starting the Garnet deck lol. Just got inspired I guess.

I'll do the same thing as with Bello, one decklist filled with ideas, and the real deck built with a guideline.

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It really feels more like a Voltron deck since you really don't want Garnet to die, so she will need protection but in the form of enchantments if possible to synergise with the others.

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Being able to regrab sagas from the graveyard would be very useful, but there's not a ton of recursion I think in white or green. (Unless Im missing something)

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[[Yuna hope of spira]] will act as a 2nd commander, [[Sithis harvest hand]] is also pretty good

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Legendary Creature โ€” Human Cleric
During your turn, Yuna and enchantment creatures you control have trample, lifelink, and ward mana2.
At the beginning of your end step, return up to one target enchantment card from your graveyard to the battlefield with a finality counter on it. (If a permanent with a finality counter on it would be put into a graveyard from the battlefield, exile it instead.)
3/5

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Ways to give Garnet haste and trample are also important, considering the main way the deck wins is through Commander damage I think

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A lot of sagas can remove stuff from the board so being able to attack each turn with Garnet will def. help

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although if she dies and saga goes up, saga dies by the time she comes back

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her home is all gone after a business trip XD

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for me, i think i wouldnt try to play any if not most of those 1 drop mana dorl

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dork

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if it doesnt give protection to get a good attack through, the value is kinda low

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mana dork subject yourself even more into losing it all to a boardwipe

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the stuff that are like $10+ are just good stuff that are generally good so cant really argue with those cards power level

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i think it is unecessary power if the goal of the deck is sagas

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[[Garnet, Princess of Alexandria]] [[Ocelot Pride]] has little connection unless you do saga tokens

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Creature โ€” Cat
First strike, lifelink
Ascend (If you control ten or more permanents, you get the city's blessing for the rest of the game.)
At the beginning of your end step, if you gained life this turn, create a 1/1 white Cat creature token. Then if you have the city's blessing, for each token you control that entered this turn, create a token that's a copy of it.
1/1

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the summons makes some good token does it but those are at least a mana5

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making the whole deck interaction with counters [[Damning Verdict]] seems like both a good "restriction" and a card choice selection

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[[Winds of Rath]] is for aura's only, and sadly there are no saga auras

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love [[Cleansing Meditation]] i have never drew it in the games that matters ๐Ÿ˜ญ

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[[Replenish]] basically the pricey straight upgrade of [[Resurgent Belief]], bit of a cheat code

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Sorcery
Suspend 2โ€”mana1manaw (Rather than cast this card from your hand, pay mana1manaw and exile it with two time counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter. When the last is removed, you may cast it without paying its mana cost.)
Return all enchantment cards from your graveyard to the battlefield. (Auras with nothing to enchant remain in your graveyard.)

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[[Farewell]] feels like it will almost always hurt you

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since a lot of duo typings

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[[Tamiyo's Safekeeping]] the lowest efficient costed protection, but i think there are always nicer ways to get this type of effect either with more synergy or just more versatility

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i would rather have mithril coat to stay around for the commander rather than a one time protect target

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if you want to use it on a saga, that would be a different story

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some auras has enough synergy i think they are worth [[all that glitters]]

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[[rofellos's gift]] is what i would do over "this card does it all without a thought"

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protection i think [[semester's end]] [[flicker of fate]] [[ephemerate]] are nicer in general

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imo it really depends on your Sagas, the best chapter to trigger, the number of triggers, what is most interesting to yoy

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[[the ozolith]] [[resourceful defense]] can keep lore counters

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whenever a deck has tons of enchantment, i am drew toward [[flickering ward]] and [[sigil of the empty throne]] just because i think those are slightly more interesting than GW enchantress

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and i will probably go for [[ song of dryads]] before beast within for both theme and synergy

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if you want to do janky stuff, rather than keeping the commander on board, a low cost green commander that has nice repeatable ramp in the 99

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can make use of fun mechanics like [[empyrial storm]]

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ideal in partner commander perhaps, so i doubt you will go in this direction

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i wouldnt play artifacts unless you also do historic subtheme

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since sagas are probably not multi coloured, i would not play both colour medallions

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just the one i have more of

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compare to mother of runes [[trailblazer boot ]] cost mana4

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[[trailblazer's boot]]

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[[helm of god]] [[power fist]] and haste boots(s) fits so those are fine

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i would avoid most of the 2 mana ramp since there are little synergy and no utility

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[[cloud key]] is the ideal cost reduction ramp in this case with enchantment focus

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back up a little to the protection, my picks/ priority would be mithril coat/inspiring call > safekeeping > Flawless maneuver

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and given the chance, i would play [[tale of tinuviel]] and cutting staples because it is on theme

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Enchantment โ€” Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter. Sacrifice after III.)
I โ€” Target creature you control gains indestructible for as long as you control this Saga.
II โ€” Return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
III โ€” Up to two target creatures you control each gain lifelink until end of turn.

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last chapter the obvious worst, need to keep it alive for as long as possible and hopefully ways to make the target hexproof

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with 0 counters, it can make multiple things indestructible

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is it a good card.... ehh

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the 5 mana initial cost kinda ruins its playability

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[[season of the burrow]] permanent indestructible without a second card type on boarde

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Sorcery
Choose up to five manap worth of modes. You may choose the same mode more than once.
manap โ€” Create a 1/1 white Rabbit creature token.
manapmanap โ€” Exile target nonland permanent. Its controller draws a card.
manapmanapmanap โ€” Return target permanent card with mana value 3 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield with an indestructible counter on it.

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generic good stuff that has enchantment, creature, historic counter, life gain synergy [[heliod sun crowned]]

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i am leaning more toward playing [[grateful apparition]] over having every enchantress

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and i think every enchantress search misses this one [[setessan champion]]

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that and [[eidolon of blossoms]] are the two must have cards in enchantment based decks imo

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going back all the way with Cleansing Meditation, flickering Ward spam cast, anything that resemble mass Flicking non tokens and/or moving auras around

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double even need any panharimonicon to double triggers

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under this mass drawing engine, only then i would consider [[thought vessal]] over the 2 mana land ramp

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otherwise, there are like 15 ish land ramp that cost below 3

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more than what a deck needs

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oh and you did find the [[rite of harmony]] so flicking makes the most sense for protection and card advantage

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i have yet to pull this card off, casting it in respond to a mass token generator and then flashback right away

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6 mana worth to draw like 20

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cough [[avenger of zendikar]] cough

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^probablythe most generic thing i can think of for mass tokens

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but only simic can pull off the [[mystic reflection]]

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i tagged lot of things and most are generic stuff that kinda fits any non saga enchantress decks

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will add heliod and season burrow in later

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can cut like half of these? XD

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btw, the reanimate all sagas spells are not only a win con, but a pain to resolve triggers

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so there are quite a bit of overlap

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i didnt see this one [[long listo f ents]]

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with 6 chapters it will probably never leave the field and it will just keep getting counters

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now you just need a long list of creature types you dont play in the deck

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to call out each game

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if commander dies, then call one of the three creature types right before you plan on recasting her

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i would play as few of those as possible

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[[mana matrix]] this looks insane

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Urza saga being a saga in here is weird ๐Ÿ˜…

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if you dont pop it, it will just keep boosting commander's stats

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if chapter 3 happens, then it can search for lot of the generic good stuff from ozolith to lavapur haste boots all the way to the specific helm of god

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so the range it can tutor for is pretty wide

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i see that there are less than 20 enchantment cards that trigger Beanstalk include itself

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so it is just a worse enchantress here

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unless you find that perfect early game curve into big spells, i think beanstalk is bad in this build

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only the initial 2 mana draw 1 is worth

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hard cast 5+ mana draw 1 isnt

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or a weird control build where you keep have repeatable engine that bouncing/flickering enchantment to recast for 1 mana with all the cost reduction

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either run protection or reanimate, without mass mill and sac outlet

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it is actually really hard to get any more enchantments into the graveyard

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and once you got a board, can either hold up mana to protect important pieces, or wait for the timing to play Yuna and get things back one by one

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so knowing what you prefer to do, i would be cutting at least half of the reanimate enchantments

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and have like 2-4 left

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my picks are ...

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[[!Elspeth Conquers Death]] is the stronger counterpart if need upgrade

warped flare
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tale is more on the nose

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and unique to this commander

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less oppressive

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that obsession with mana1 cards XD

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i would keep no more than 5 of those

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my own deck i would only have 4 due to card price:

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life's bounty, ephermerate, restoration magic, and tamiyo safekeeping

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the assumption with ephem is that i want to use on other ETB constellation triggers for more value rather than protecting the commander; more versatile spell to respond with

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selfless savior is worse than blacksmith at sorcery speed cast and stays on board

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Cant read everything right now. Ill check it out tonight. Dont forgey this is just a draft of everything at least decent. I'll make a 2nd list with the more effective card. I think I dont need that much ramp. Everything 2 mana is probably useless since I will always T2 garnet probably. T1 Ramp will prioritise anything non creature, everything else will be utility like Mother of runes or [[Zack Fair]] could work also.

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yeah i went hard at this one

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i think i have 50-60 cuts at least

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but still have to add lands XD

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too many fun cards i would just cut like 90% of the staple generic good stuff

novel bramble
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full reset

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counters never stays on anything

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your commander basically keeps saga from moving up to the next chapter

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not sure if this helps at all but i did see this deck posted https://archidekt.com/decks/5742700/the_first_step_towards_victory_is_losing_the_game its has tons of GC and different game strategy

Archidekt

Queen Marchesa - Commander deck
Jank โ€ข Life Paying โ€ข Pillow Fort
(1) Commander โ€ข (1) Artifact โ€ข (5) Draw โ€ข (2) Enchantment โ€ข (5) Finisher โ€ข (36) Land โ€ข (3) Lifegain โ€ข (20) Protection โ€ข (6) Ramp โ€ข (6) Removal โ€ข (2) Sorcery โ€ข (3) Stax โ€ข (2) Tokens โ€ข (7) Tutor โ€ข (1) Untap

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as simple as holding monarch + [[Solitary Confinement]] is hard to break

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First draft done, some cuts to make still, but its looking pretty good so far.

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Gameplan looks pretty simple too;
T2 Garnet
T3 Saga (Might not have enough. There's a couple in the considering section)

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Back from LGS:
1 loss with Serah again. Deck becomes archenemy really fast. I was still 1 turn away from winning so the deck is a really strong bracket 3.

1 win with Shelob, token deck attacked with 18 creatures on my Arachnogenesis + Chatterfang, I stole a Mayhem Devil so I was able to nuke people with my squirrels. Amazing win tbh.

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[[Arachnogenesis ]] the one card combo XD

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is it chatterfang as the sac outlet? because that causes mana

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[[Chatterfang]]

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Multiple cards match โ€œChatterfangโ€, can you be more specific?

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(โ•ฏยฐโ–กยฐ)โ•ฏ๏ธต โ”ปโ”โ”ป

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it cost B to sac X amount of squirrels. Next turn I attacked with all my spiders and the guy had to block, every spider kill added 1 food, which in turn added one squirrel. The [[Mayhem Devil]] that I stole did the rest

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yeah as a rakdos player i love getting mayhem devil triggers

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[[shelob, mother]]

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No card found for โ€œshelob, motherโ€

warped flare
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[[shelob, child ]]

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Legendary Creature โ€” Spider Demon
Deathtouch, ward mana2
Other Spiders you control have deathtouch and ward mana2.
Whenever another creature dealt damage this turn by a Spider you controlled dies, create a token that's a copy of that creature, except it's a Food artifact with "mana2, manat, Sacrifice this token: You gain 3 life," and it loses all other card types.
8/8

warped flare
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going wide sure makes shelob scary

novel bramble
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It was a once in a lifetime play. Not sure how many times I'll be able to Arachno for 18

warped flare
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with no boardwipe possible

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fog are the best extra turn/counterspell

novel bramble
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6 cuts to make. I'm stuck.

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Probably too much protection, but losing Garnet hurts the deck hard, so I'm not sure. Had to cut most +1/+1 auras since is it redundant with Garnets effect.

warped flare
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i am not afraid to lose a 2 drop commander and recast

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it is annoying to restart with no +1 counters but the base cost isnt that bad

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i dont' think [[brotherhood regalia]] is NEEDED in the deck, but it could be one of the direction the deck is going

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warped flare
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[[buster sword]] looks powerful and fun

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warped flare
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without natural evasion, assuming the equipped creature is the commander, it doesnt connect for that big effect

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i usually dont need all 3 haste boots in one deck unless i am fully commited to monolith commander voltron

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i would definitely keep lavspur because of urza saga tutoer

novel bramble
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So having the 3 boots gives more chances to see at least 1

warped flare
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i guess you are commited to voltron then

novel bramble
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Yeah its the direction the deck wants to go

warped flare
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in that case i would have to cut at one of those aura enchantments

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since they have lesser value than the equipments

novel bramble
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I value Trample over anything else

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FLying is 2nd

warped flare
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with [[sphere grid]] i may want to cut a source that gives trample

zealous ridgeBOT
novel bramble
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So [[Ethereal Armor]] might go, I like [[Ancestral Mask]] but it might have to go too.

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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i think mask is too important if you are voltron

novel bramble
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Only 4 sources of trample tho

warped flare
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i would cut that last

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since you dont have many enchantment creature

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do you think you still need Yuna

novel bramble
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Its the 2nd effect I like, bringing back enchantments

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No matter witch

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which*

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If garnet bites the dust too much I can rely on her as a backup commander

warped flare
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cut [[ canopy cover]] if flying matters less than trample

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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the hexproof is redundant to the boots

novel bramble
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Yeah

warped flare
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or if you keep it for testing in game, it will eventually be swapped

novel bramble
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Probably

warped flare
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so i am meh on [[sejiri shelter]]

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Instant
Target creature you control gains protection from the color of your choice until end of turn.
"It blocks the windswept salt and frigid air, but the loneliness of Sejiri remains." โ€”Enwor, Sea Gate Expeditionary House

Sejiri Glacier
Land
This land enters tapped.
manat: Add manaw.
"This place offers nothing and takes everything." โ€”Enwor, Sea Gate Expeditionary House

warped flare
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because protection can make aura falls off

novel bramble
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Its a land, doesnt matter

warped flare
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yeah ik

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i think most of the time, it is one of those i always play tapped

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why dont you have any forest in the lands

novel bramble
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Didnt fix, dont worry about it

warped flare
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k

novel bramble
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When Im done adding all the nonbasic lands I just cut to equalise

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[[Helm of the gods]]

zealous ridgeBOT
novel bramble
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I guess its now less relevant

warped flare
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i am cutting

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ethereal armor

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before helm of the gods

novel bramble
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Yep, I already did

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Ethereal and Canopy are gone

warped flare
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especially since you have the mdfc [[strength of the harvest]]

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Enchantment โ€” Aura
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature gets +1/+1 for each creature and/or enchantment you control.
The Kelema Veil flows through Setessa, allowing Karametra's faithful followers direct access to her wisdom and power.

Haven of the Harvest
Land
This land enters tapped.
manat: Add manag or manaw.
"For us, a temple is a part of nature, not something we impose upon it." โ€”Sythis, Harvest's Hand

warped flare
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oh i lowkey missed that buster sword draws a card

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yeah i guess helm cut is before mask

novel bramble
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Yeah Buster sword is Draw and ramp in one

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and the +3 is good too

warped flare
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idk what to do with [[shield of oversoul]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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its so much stats at 3 mana

novel bramble
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Its good stats

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yeah

warped flare
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but it is also less than all the other auras

novel bramble
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I think its still very solid

warped flare
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i may cut [[the wind crystal]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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22 white cards 28 green 10 multi colour

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include both crystals^

novel bramble
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Goes well with Garnet tho

warped flare
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both side has 4 one drop that cant use the reduction

novel bramble
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I even though about putting [[Celestine Living saint]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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because there is [[alhammarret's archieve]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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i dont want to cut [[power conduit]] ><

zealous ridgeBOT
novel bramble
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Yeah no, its great

warped flare
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if keeps a saga around if commander is off the board

novel bramble
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Synergise with everything almost, including [[Resurgent belief]]

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Sorcery
Suspend 2โ€”mana1manaw (Rather than cast this card from your hand, pay mana1manaw and exile it with two time counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter. When the last is removed, you may cast it without paying its mana cost.)
Return all enchantment cards from your graveyard to the battlefield. (Auras with nothing to enchant remain in your graveyard.)

warped flare
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no

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suspend isnt permanent

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you pointed out the one card that doesnt synergize XD

novel bramble
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You can remove time counters

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To activate it faster

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[[Satyr enchanter]] ?

zealous ridgeBOT
novel bramble
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Not a fan to cut draw sources but its sticking out in the draw list

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I never want to cast this on curve either

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T4 is also awkward to cast

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Alright, down to 102

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So, big question: 36 or 38 lands?

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Only 13 ramp pieces I think the maths favor 38 lands

warped flare
warped flare
novel bramble
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Oh shit good call

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Damn I was certain It worked

warped flare
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but power conduit is good

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you just linked the ewrong card lol

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and havent cheated in game :p

novel bramble
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I wouldnt cheat on purpose

warped flare
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yeah most people dont

novel bramble
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I think Resurgent is still pretty good

warped flare
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cheaters dont play commander for fun

novel bramble
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as a way to catch back up after recasting Garnet for example

warped flare
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yeah both are fine in the deck

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is it weird that i dont think the sword of F&F is that amazing here

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your curve is so low so the extra mana is a small boost

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3 to cast 2 to equip to untap lands is almost less than the value you can get from an enchantress

novel bramble
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I guess I like having mana open

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Pro green is annoying tho

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[[Bear umbra]] does it better

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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yeah. and enchantment triggers your stuff

novel bramble
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Gone

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Last card

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Could be a land

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test out how things come out

warped flare
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checking how many indestructible in the deck

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the mini nonbo with greaves and [[mithril coat]] are draw together

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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which should rarely happens

novel bramble
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Well Mithril can be flashed out

warped flare
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my biggest concern is not getting the saga and draw engine

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with all the equipments

novel bramble
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3 mana sagas are the most important

warped flare
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[[robe of stars]] is either really nice or kinda useless

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novel bramble
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It keeps the tokens no?

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Not the tokens, the +1+1 counters

warped flare
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well here with my luck and goldfishing

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i got the one sage after 30 cards deep

novel bramble
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Took 4 mulligans to get 3 lands lol

warped flare
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yeah your land has issues if you need 3

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31 lands is basically looking at 2 lands + ramp but this deck doesnt run ramp

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most of the equipments feels like they are in the way of the saga + counters game plan

novel bramble
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12 pieces is fine for a regular curve

warped flare
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yeah the problem isnt the ramp

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the rough math is ramp = 0.5 mana source

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so 12/2 = 6

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31 lands + 6 = 37

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  • MDFC
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still on the low end

novel bramble
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So [[Brotherhood Regalia]], [[Robe of stars]] sticks out as the most useless equips I got

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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yeah they both have nice casting cost + low equip, just the deck dont really care about equipments [[puresteel paladin]] type of build

zealous ridgeBOT
novel bramble
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I could replace with more 3 mana sagas

warped flare
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if only there are saga land MDFC

novel bramble
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There are Ramp-oriented sagas that cost 3 mana too

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[[City of death]] [[Jugan defends the temple]]

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Enchantment โ€” Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter.)
I โ€” Create a 1/1 green Human Monk creature token with "manat: Add manag."
II โ€” Put a +1/+1 counter on each of up to two target creatures.
III โ€” Exile this Saga, then return it to the battlefield transformed under your control.

Remnant of the Rising Star
Enchantment Creature โ€” Dragon Spirit
Flying
Whenever another creature you control enters, you may pay manax. When you do, put X +1/+1 counters on that creature.
As long as you control five or more modified creatures, this creature gets +5/+5 and has trample. (Equipment, Auras you control, and counters are modifications.)
2/2

novel bramble
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Or draw with [[Love song of night and day]]

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Enchantment โ€” Saga
Read ahead (Choose a chapter and start with that many lore counters. Add one after your draw step. Skipped chapters don't trigger. Sacrifice after III.)
I โ€” You and target opponent each draw two cards.
II โ€” Create a 1/1 white Bird creature token with flying.
III โ€” Put a +1/+1 counter on each of up to two target creatures.

warped flare
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i thought there would end up being more saga creatures in the deck

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with just commander [[kodama of the west tree]] is starting to look meh

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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as long as there are enough basics in the 99 it probably wont hurt

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the trample part isnt as great, and only the combat damage ramp trigger left on it is still good

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in my case it is a easy cut for budget reason ๐Ÿคฃ

novel bramble
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Could become another saga. Although a voltron without many trample sources?

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I got a pot of removal tho

warped flare
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i wonder how my own saga deck would look like, i think i would have like a $120 CAD budget

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yeah the removal on repeat is kinda insane

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nothing will stay behind

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drawing them at the right time is the problem

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and the hate you get from the table from removing every fun thing they bring out

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since you are likely to have the lowest curve

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your threats will be the first to show up compare to other decks

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so drawing attention to your game piece is why you need so much more protection than others

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a turn 3 creature sees so much more removal (two full rotations, 6 opponents' turns) than a T5 thingy unless it nearly say "win the game on the spot"

novel bramble
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I'm fine with that. I play Bello and Serah Farron lol

warped flare
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yeah you are used to it

novel bramble
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Hell even when I play my hobbits I started to put dice on my food because people started attacking me oit of worry Id win with my 10+ food tokens

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But with a D20 on a single food token they dont care as much

warped flare
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the most ~~aggresive ~~ peaceful selesynya player

novel bramble
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Yes very peaceful

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Alright, so first draft is done; I'll eventually pass the order to get the deck, but I wanna finish a couple of them before

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So next is [[Queen Marchesa]] and I already have a list

zealous ridgeBOT
novel bramble
warped flare
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Very unfocused so far, didnt go my usual way since I made a quick list at work

warped flare
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almost had to type out the link

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because mac doesnt let me drag for whatever reasons

novel bramble
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I like Amazonian, she's fun to watch

warped flare
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i need more fun for expressiveness XD

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white and green doesnt allow too much of that with the linear game play

warped flare
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and once it goes over 5-7

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its too high to matter

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the first 2-3 times of [[smoothering tithe]] may matter

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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but once you have too much mana, there is no point of denying the 1 mana from the treasure

novel bramble
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Yeah

warped flare
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hmmm, do you want to make the death touch soldier

novel bramble
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We talking Queen Marchesa?

warped flare
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yes

novel bramble
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No idea who that is

warped flare
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i guess if you have court of grace type of unkeep value

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you rather keep monarch

novel bramble
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No I dont,

warped flare
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oops its not soldiers i meant assassin

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the token

novel bramble
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I wanna make a more 'Watch everyone kill themselves'

warped flare
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oh

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so monarch doesnt matter too much

novel bramble
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Nah

warped flare
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:D

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chaos

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i smell blood

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this is time FOR [[PANDEMONIUM}}

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[[PANDEMONIUM]]

zealous ridgeBOT
novel bramble
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You and jank lol

warped flare
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[[centaur token|tclb]] does this work

zealous ridgeBOT
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No card found named โ€œcentaur tokenโ€ in Battle for Baldur's Gate Tokens

warped flare
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[[centaur|tclb]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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[[haunted horror]]

zealous ridgeBOT
novel bramble
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Quite the fatty

warped flare
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hmmm i guess no the best ideal since 3 damage can kill lot of things

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but the potential of it being 13 damage to face

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but if they do kill your commander

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recast for deathtouch damage

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and regain monarch

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isnt bad at all

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but yeah, in general i would aim for the more unpredictable impulsive burn of your opponents choice from pandemonium instead of onesided [[warstorm surge]] effect

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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"hey, remember last turn when you countered my 7 drop fun spell?"

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"..... n...no?"

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"dmg to the blue player"

novel bramble
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I dont need reason to hit a blue player

warped flare
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yes, but making up fake reasons justify it

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politically control

novel bramble
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"You play blue" is still the best reason to hit them

warped flare
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in their mind

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i actually hit black first

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because life payment and stuff

novel bramble
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Thats racist

warped flare
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i hate white the most tho

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so that balance it out

novel bramble
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Thats why Green always win lol

warped flare
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mtg is a game of chess, chess is racist

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ok was a lil off track

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back to queen marchesa

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my chaos doesnt fit your style, and harder to play lot of things with all the damage being throw around

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creatures becomes much harder to survive and its not good if someone else isnt the obvious threat/has the highest life/ doing much more turn after turn

novel bramble
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I'd like to play it AIkido style

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Aikido*

warped flare
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[[deflecting palm]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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how to make it extra tricky ๐Ÿค”

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[[Captain's Maneuver]] know this jank?

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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if you can pay for it, it can be 100% commander damage to anyone*

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it DOES NOT prevent damage, it only redirects

novel bramble
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Oh damn, probably useless since its X

warped flare
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its funny

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if you manage to stop commander damage and kill someone

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but the target creature part is the worst

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since creature could just die and make this fizzle

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need some crazy jeskai cost reduction to pull it off

novel bramble
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gtg to my LGS for more Serah and Shelob testing

warped flare
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๐Ÿ‘‹

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cya

novel bramble
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So AIkido and watch people murder each other will be my focus

warped flare
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will look up alkido and learn some moves on my way out

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[[forth eorlingas!]] extra early monarch and since its proxy you can ignore the price

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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chain reaction kinda meh

novel bramble
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[[Brash taunter]] works great with this dude

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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yeah but then you could also add stuffy doll, the black artifact creatures that 4 mana

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all the other things that care about burning the board including damage doublers so each instance is increased

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[[city on fire]] is my go to which i only pull off a few times; not enough

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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i think there are too much protect atm with all the goading, can cut a few condoms out

warped flare
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i think the lands ratio is too low so that [[jukai naturalist]] isnt good enough, i think you have to cut draws such as [[rishkar expertise]]

zealous ridgeBOT
warped flare
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juaki is basically a T4 land drop play into a 3 mana enchantment