for the 4th mana
#Cutting cards in my Frodo+Sam deck
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wraith lance
As long as I get a dual green/something
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oh isee
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i forgot you dont have fetch
so shocks are not alwyas there
city of brass all the expensive stuff can be direct upgrade
[[isolated chapel]] one of the best t2 land
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Land
This land enters tapped unless you control a Plains or a Swamp.
: Add 
or 
.
Serra's blessing lies strongest upon Sursi, where her holy chapels are untouched even as the Cabal encroaches.
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do you own the trium land
wraith lance
no
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thats alright, [[indatha triome]]
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Land — Plains Swamp Forest
(: Add , , or 
.)
This land enters tapped.
Cycling 
(, Discard this card: Draw a card.)
"These lowlands were formed thousands of years ago by the behemoth Indath—its final footsteps before vanishing into the sea." —Tales of the Ozolith
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its always tapped so it deoesnt actully speed anything up
whats your thought on darksteel ingot nowadays
in general
wraith lance
Alright, lands should be fixed now
Murmuring bosk is the outlier methinks
technically sandsteppe is worse
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may as well ask for your opinion about chromatic lantern along with darksteel ignot, the land colour fixing is nice too but i never have one and it feels useless unless the lands are budget and the deck run like ultimatum, there s no point
wraith lance
costs too high. ramp on 3 mana is useless, I've rarely had problem with my colors anyway
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For one extra cost you get Thran
signal saffron
depends on commader i guess
wraith lance
Honestly Thran would be much better to re-cast my commanders after they get killed, or eat 3 food.
I went ahead and tagged every cards in deck to have a better view
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lands sure went down a lot
but it does match the curve
i think [[access tunnel]] is a direct upgrade instead of rogue passage
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Land
: Add 
.
, : Target creature with power 3 or less can't be blocked this turn.
Oriq agents stick to the dark corners of Arcavios, unseen yet ever-present.
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with the exception of feasting hobbit (already unblockable) and Guest (trample)
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oh, didnt main deck BMconnection
I don't have it in hand. It's on my list though.
Everything in considering I do not own, some would be easy replacements (Like Deadly Rollick or BMco)
ALso why does [[Enduring Tenacity]] seems so much better than [[Sanguine Bond]]?
wraith lance
Am I missing something?
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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
but it can die to a path/sword, so it is more so a better card advantage rather than strictly better
idk whats the best play here
5 mana turn 4 before attack land drop
eeverything makes token so idk whats the best sequence
part of it is not knowing how close academy manufactor is near the death door 🤣
lotho then peregrin (missing the additional token this time) looks like the safe play while manufactor into cola is the greedy play? which can be done next turn
if manufactor and peregrin stays and get farmer cotton ...
[[meriadox brandybuck]]
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Legendary Creature — Halfling Citizen
Whenever one or more Halflings you control attack a player, create a Food token. (It's an artifact with "
, , Sacrifice this token: You gain 3 life.")
"My dear old Hobbit, you don't allow for the inquisitiveness of friends. I have known about the existence of the Ring for years."
2/2
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this got to be one of the most mediore halfling legend, as much as i dont like it, it is cheap and has food, stats, and legend synergy
and no other replacement
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i think there are probably stronger draw than phyrexian arena so i am looking into [[tocasia's welcome]] not ideal if it is still once per turn but its better, [[tenuous truce]] has political effect on the table and at least one less opponent trying to remove it, [[dawn of a new age]] just cheap, i think this one is kinda meh but i also dont play white so... i may just be bias, [[loran of the third path]] more politics and modal cards
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Legendary Creature — Human Artificer
Vigilance
When Loran enters, destroy up to one target artifact or enchantment.
: You and target opponent each draw a card.
As a scholar, she saw the sylex not as a weapon, but as a key to the past.
2/1
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weird ass stuff i find are [[pursuit of knowledge]] and not worth using [[secret rendevous]]
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stick to the classic [[ archvist of oghma]] if you are up against the tutoring power level
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[[euduring innocence]] is the welcoming vampire/tocasia upgrade
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since the food part of the core of the deck is probably perfect
i can only see changes in removal/interactions, and draw
otherwise it will cut into the ramp and mana part of the game
oghma is especially sad if no one doing any unfair magic
so i wouldnt want that in bracket 2, but usually good payoff beyond that?
and i forgot about caretaker's talent
i think almost all of those beats phyrexian arena
[[sunset revelry]] interesting
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wraith lance
lotho then peregrin (missing the additional token this time) looks like the safe...
Turn 4 usually rarely has board wipes but from my experience, anyone taht understands Manufacturer will be gunning for you hard the instant it drops.
With 6 mana, you still need to eat the food so Lotho+Peregrin is the play imo
You can try academy+lotho to try farmer cotton afterwards sure, but you don't have any follow up to all the ressources you're about to get
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academy + cola 6 mana make food make treasure
cola then sac treasure to make food make treaure
sac need new food for life
cola make tapped tokens
that was the 6 mana greedy play for instant payoff
and i do that assuming i will miss land drop
on the following turn
first food from sam second food from cola, first treasure mana on cola so second treasure mana to eat food
wraith lance
You're right. I guess it depends how the board state looks like. Becoming arch enemy with no followup is going to be rough
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food so powerful idk where to change 😅
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I played a couple games yesterday, still no Delney but I won 1 and lost vs 2 hp that I couldve killed if I played better (AKA reading his lands)
The one I lost I started horribly, guy blew up Frodo and took control of Sam for 3 turns and I still almost got him
The one I won was playing solitaire vs an Ur-Dragon and Eowyn
MVP is Definitely Sorin. I took control of The First Sliver, had a white perm on board so it had Lifelink, and had Vito on board so I swung for a massive 14 damage
Honestly, the only changes I'd do is to find space for [[The wind Crystal]] and [[Aerith gainsborough]]
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Legendary Artifact
White spells you cast cost 
less to cast.
If you would gain life, you gain twice that much life instead.
, : Creatures you control gain flying and lifelink until end of turn.
"I give unto you the last of my light, and with it, the last hope of a fading world."
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I'm looking at Pippin and maybe a removal
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[[Eowyn]]
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[[Eowyn shieldmaiden]]
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Human tribal aggro deck
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oooh
yeah that one is weird
if they lose the commander with no better set up
they are screw
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but go wide go fast perfect textbook example of aggro
maybe humans with hatebear type of effect is the strongest but lot more unfan to play against
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I'm looking at Pippin and maybe a removal
XD finally onto pippin
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I mean, merry is already out
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but pippin was something i wanted as one of the cuts long ago
wraith lance
My experience with Merry is vs either boardwipe or flying so he's useless then
[[Pippin warden]]
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Legendary Creature — Halfling Advisor
Partner with Merry, Warden of Isengard (When this creature enters, target player may put Merry into their hand from their library, then shuffle.)
, : Create a Food token.
, Sacrifice four Foods: Other creatures you control get +3/+3 and gain haste until end of turn. Activate only as a sorcery.
2/2
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if you need anymore cuts i think it will be the "do nothing" type of cards that resemble doubling season in the deck since you can only run so many in a single deck
[[Merry, Warden ]]
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they are more like additional replacement to make more tokens? [[chatterfang]]
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will see both tokens from merry and perregin
wraith lance
Chatterfang easily replaces merry
wraith lance
Yeah it was
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pippin somewaht has a place
wraith lance
I made the change today actually
signal saffron
you have better memory than me looking at 30 decks a day XD
wraith lance
Merry's job was to fetch Pippin most of the time
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and i can say this is easily the top 5 if not the top 3 out of the 30s
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Thank you lol
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[[Astrid peth]] fun bit with this, you can Turn 3 combo without Sam with Astrid
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and a lot like you, he plays it multiple times per night
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so it is kinda hard to match the power
yeah peth is like a commander of her own in that regard
the underwhelming halfling i mention also do the same
doesnt it
Whenever one or more Halflings you control attack a player, create a Food token.
wraith lance
No
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Because Frodo's effect only activate if you got that 3 life before he attacks
signal saffron
ah
wraith lance
You need to eat the food before declaring the attack
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didnt notice that much befoer
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Im so used to having Sam I forgot food cost 2 when he's not there
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lol
yeah peth still need 4 mana so the one mana ramp is needed
otherwise you are stuck with mox/fast mana / [[$elvish spirit guide]]
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cheaper$ than i thought
i think 6 one drop ramp is enough
each one will only incerase that by a few %
better of with fetch lands at that point?
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Yeah, thats the next upgrades
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infinite reservelist cards
i doubt i will ever own or find a reserve list card unless i turn magic into my career
so if i really need one i will have to proxy those
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[[Battle Menu]] Interesting card
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[[Machinist's Arsenal]]
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Artifact — Equipment
Job select (When this Equipment enters, create a 1/1 colorless Hero creature token, then attach this to it.)
Equipped creature gets +2/+2 for each artifact you control and is an Artificer in addition to its other types.
Machina — Equip (: Attach to target creature you control. Equip only as a sorcery.)
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[[Battle Menu]] Interesting card
i like the 0/+4 mode XD
item sux but
can be cluth
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T3 Combo works
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turn 3 fordo
yeah
but at the cost of a card
so its desperate life gain
i think its more when you are at 6 lifes and everyone is trading blows
wraith lance
It would be mainly for +4 and Destroy effect anyway
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-x/-x spells are deadly against this deck
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good card regardless
yeah i like the +4 a lot
i was thinking of [[defense tower]] for this edck at one point
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but it doesnt stop blasphemous act
or that untap 0/+2 castel wall thingy awful anthem
wraith lance
No idea
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[[Machinist's Arsenal]]
5 initial cost is kinda brutal
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No idea
just a really bad old card that looks interesting in a Doran big butts deck
wraith lance
5 is a lot but it comes with a 1/1 attached
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without artifact equipment synergy i cant really find it worth while
wraith lance
Should usually be around +11+11 on board with 5 artifacts, which is not a lot for this deck
Yeah, it's just a big dude
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since you are better of tutoring for the frying pan
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which is not that big anyway
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The Fat Hobbit Proudfoot is usually +11+11 with 3 food
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anyways i will be leaving soon, i will ttyl
wraith lance
and he has evasion
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The Fat Hobbit Proudfoot is usually +11+11 with 3 food
eexactly
wraith lance
cya
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Dusk looks more and more useless as a Board wipe.
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[[vito dusk rose]] ?
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Legendary Creature — Vampire Cleric
Whenever you gain life, target opponent loses that much life.
: Creatures you control gain lifelink until end of turn.
"Through the blood of the wicked, we shall be redeemed. Let us pray."
1/3
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Sorcery
Destroy all creatures with power 3 or greater.
Dawn
Sorcery
Aftermath (Cast this spell only from your graveyard. Then exile it.)
Return all creature cards with power 2 or less from your graveyard to your hand.
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i mean, it is the ideal one sided wipe for the deck
unless you dont want 3 wipes
and never use dawn to refill hand
then 4 and 5 mana isnt really worth the utility
i love this one sided wipe in Doran siege tower, not that i actually got to play it since i never put the full deck together but as a design/brewing it just clicks right. in actually games i can see lot of counters and indestructible i really only use sac/exile/tuck/ other form of value gain rather than mass destroy
ideally a reveberate at the top of the stack to counter the heroic or Tpro
as rakdos i also have chaos only one lives randomized wipes, threaten into group edict etc
so i think it is kinda of a meta game plan if you know people has the right counter to protect their board
how you get around their counter
[[split up]] 3 mana but no refill hand
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in conclusion, i dont think dusk is useless, but it is how powercreep making older cards feels weaker and less effective when players keep on upgrading and using new cards
i can see [[savvy hunter]] being too weak and not synergistic enough some years down the line
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Creature — Human Warrior
Whenever this creature attacks or blocks, create a Food token. (It's an artifact with ", , Sacrifice this token: You gain 3 life.")
Sacrifice two Foods: Draw a card.
None of the other villagers dare venture into the wilds, so she feeds the whole hamlet herself.
3/3
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it will probably get haste, 3/4, has goad, draws 2 cards with 3 food or something. who knows what it will become
either way, i aint buying it, both the physical copy or mentally prepare to get the newest best version
almost forgot, give it like 3-5 more creature types cause it need that support
/s
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I've never been able to cast Dusk/Dawn without damaging my own board in the process, and the graveyard version has been useful once: when I was able to discard it with Frodo then it was miraculously useful late game.
I've added a ton of cards in the considering section, if you wanna look and if you see something that stands out
Also I have a Marsh flats, Windswept Heath, Boseiju who endures, Takemuna abandoned mire and Black Market Connection coming in the mail. So I need to find space for them
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I've never been able to cast Dusk/Dawn without damaging my own board in the proc...
yeah i think the grave refill hand makes the card look better than it is when there are better things to do with the mana, its more for cheating commander tax
esp with 2 commanders
going to check your new considering cards, is [[slaughter the strong]] in theree
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one of my favourite 3 mana one sided wipe of all time
and thematic too
since white is usually about meek
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Then a card like [[Ascend from avernus]] could cut through the bullshit and get me exactly what I want if my stuff is in the grave
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7 if there is a win con in grave
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Sorcery
This spell costs less to cast for each creature on the battlefield.
Destroy all creatures.
"Remind Zurgo that the Abzan will not tolerate his marauders. If the Mardu wish to trespass, then I encourage him to face my blade himself." —Felothar, khan of the Abzan
signal saffron
yeah since you dont care about total cost
but it isnt one sided
and destroy can sometimes fail
wraith lance
No sadly. [[Harsh Mercy]] could be one-sided provided I only have Halflings on board
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depends on how much of the archenemy is ready with a full grip of cards
slaughter gets around heroic intervention is my main reason
i like that one you said for sure
wraith lance
Last thing is [[Invasion of flora]]
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Bataille — siège
(Au moment où un siège arrive sur le champ de bataille, choisissez un adversaire pour le protéger. Vous et les autres pouvez l'attaquer. Quand il est vaincu, exilez-le, puis lancez-le transformé.)
Quand l'Invasion de Moag arrive sur le champ de bataille, mettez un marqueur +1/+1 sur chaque créature que vous contrôlez.
Face à la volonté implacable de Phyrexia, les dryades de Moag dressèrent un bouclier d'été vivant.
Defense: 5
Dryades porteuses de floraison
Créature — dryade
Parade (À chaque fois que cette créature devient la cible d'un sort ou d'une capacité qu'un adversaire contrôle, contrecarrez ce sort ou cette capacité à moins que ce joueur ne paie .)
Au début de votre étape de fin, mettez un marqueur +1/+1 sur une créature ciblée que vous contrôlez.
3/3
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[[Invasion of fiora]]
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although it can miss on one, so there maybe politicking wiht opponent to remove the one biggest threat
and less effective if you are the threat yourself
oh yeah i forgot about fiora, love getting it
i have it in a control deck that can indefinitely bounce it so it is repeatable
and it is one OR both
wraith lance
It's a nice package for 1 card
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also if the spell resolve, it happens on ETB
so technically it allows "lying"
about not using both modes to someone that say they can counter it
but it will create all sort of problems down the line if done that way
i like the potential mini sub-mind-game
if you get what i mean
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Legendary Creature — Human Citizen
The first legendary creature spell you cast each turn costs less to cast.
At the beginning of combat on your turn, if you control two or more other legendary creatures, you may transform Serah Farron.
"Our own private heaven."
2/2
Crystallized Serah
Legendary Artifact
The first legendary creature spell you cast each turn costs less to cast.
Legendary creatures you control get +2/+2.
L'Cie who fulfill their Focus for their fal'Cie master are transformed into crystal and granted life eternal.
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the fact you can also get the backside by telling your opponent you can instant kill the planewalker is some good political power
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Easy -2 cost +2/+2 to everyone
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oh i havent seen this one b4
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art looks so pretty, too pretty for the universe of magic
looks like it came from a dressup game
wraith lance
Its a story card
First the hand on the left seems tender
tranformed the hand look distressed
I played mostly all final fantasy except this one
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Easy -2 cost +2/+2 to everyone
very, 3 mana anthem powercreep hard
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[[Apothecary White]]
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Legendary Creature — Human Cleric
Vigilance
Whenever you attack, you create a Food token for each player being attacked. (It's an artifact with ", , Sacrifice this token: You gain 3 life.")
, , Tap X untapped Foods you control: Create X 1/1 white Human creature tokens.
3/4
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I mean. Tokens galore for 1 white mana
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the hand on the back looks like the opposite hand from the front
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Probably the protagonist of that game
"Life eternal didnt have the same ring in my mind, turn back"
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I mean. Tokens galore for 1 white mana
insane value but less overlap with main strategy to go wide? good for building a board
and good multiple ways to make tokens
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[[Hazel's Brewmaster]]
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i think it would be something on the haymaker list, forcing another one to get cut
good gravehate, a little bit hard to combo with it tho
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This one is just insane to me, all food get the abilities of every exiled cards
Great Toolbox imo
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4 mana for food isnt worth, so it is all about giving the most broken effect
high ceiling for sure
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""Activatd abilities"" mind you
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yeah i know
its like that
super pricey card from return of eldraine
find it [[agatha's soul cauldron]]
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Legendary Artifact
You may spend mana as though it were mana of any color to activate abilities of creatures you control.
Creatures you control with +1/+1 counters on them have all activated abilities of all creature cards exiled with Agatha's Soul Cauldron.
: Exile target card from a graveyard. When a creature card is exiled this way, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control.
wraith lance
Yeah
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and since food dont have the same creature summoning sickness
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Anyway I'm off to my LGS, ttyl
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its a matter of finding that second piece in a graveyard
ttyl 👋
back from LGS last night
lost every thing XD
wraith lance
Happens lol
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I mean. Tokens galore for 1 white mana
first time hearing this word "galore" This maybe the haymaker/win-more equivalent word added to my dictionary
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3 games 3 losses. didnt have the cards at the end. Almost won first one, lost 2nd to infinite combo turn 4 and lost last game to no one dealing with a 18mana Black Market
Things of note: I finally drew and used Boromir for the first time ever (About 30 games played with this deck, never drew Boromir)
Archivist of Oghma sat in my hands for 5 turns, then drew me 6 cards and I still lost because my turn never came up. I'll probably change it to a [[Loran of the third path]]
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Legendary Creature — Human Artificer
Vigilance
When Loran enters, destroy up to one target artifact or enchantment.
: You and target opponent each draw a card.
As a scholar, she saw the sylex not as a weapon, but as a key to the past.
2/1
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3 games 3 losses. didnt have the cards at the end. Almost won first one, lost 2n...
close game, infinite happens in bracket 3 and above so its unavoidable without that blue or whatever fast interaction, black market is at that overkill spot that either ran out of interaction or poor threat assessment
now that your local got used to your deck, the strength and weakness also becomes obvious as it is harder to deal the killing blow
those 3 games sounds out of your control
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I'm sure I couldve won the first one if I played more accurately. I full swung without counting twice
AKA I couldve split the damage
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[[boromir]] i forgot all the text on it
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[[Boromir warden]]
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and ring tempts you with single use protection?
ohh not no spell
no cost spell get countered
wraith lance
The indestructible part is the most important
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the white counter spell closer to [[void mirror]] or the bauble
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yeah i think the indestructible is the only relevant part other than legend synergy
it does 3 things but only 1.5 really matters
wraith lance
and it still matters nonetheless
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I'm sure I couldve won the first one if I played more accurately. I full swung w...
i do that every freaken game lol its in my blood to swing and get myself killed as a rakdos player i guess
is it better than flawless manu then?
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I full swung with [[motivated pony]] on board so I wasnt threatened
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[[Archivist of Oghma ]] is a sad card when that happens
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wraith lance
But last guy had the Angel that gives protection vs creatures and he added Hexproof on top of it
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idr how i played this since i dont own it, or maybe it was a similar effect
bit basically i have no chance of using it the entire game
because it was too "fair" of a game
no fetch or repeatable stuff
would a boardwipe worked?
wraith lance
Yes, already used two that game tho
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it is a nice target player lose effect
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XD
i did mention gyome at some point
savvy hunter is in the weird spot because it makes food
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[[Smeagol helpful guide]] is a freaking MVP tho
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and draw
wraith lance
What a card
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Insane card
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what draw/food maker can you replace savvy with
wraith lance
It triggers on every Ring tempt
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XD tell me more
yeah
i wish i have a smeagol focus deck but i cant do it with what i own in green black
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Triggered 3 times on my turn, discarded almost 20 cards from one dude
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He was quite pissed and wiped my board twice in a row lol
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i think 5 triggers was the most i got per turn, also the only game ever i have gotten the ring to tempt me 4th times
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I couldnt use it on the other guys cauz they had graveyard Recursion out the wazoo
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i made clone of [[bilbo thief]]
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[[bilbo bugur]]
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[[bilbo burgler]]
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The only bilbo I know is [[Bilbo birthday]]
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Legendary Creature — Halfling Rogue
If you would gain life, you gain that much life plus 1 instead.
, , Exile Bilbo: Search your library for any number of creature cards, put them onto the battlefield, then shuffle. Activate only if you have 111 or more life.
2/3
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and each etb ltb give me all my off colour plain basics
[[bilbo, retired burglar]]
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edhrec the name
i think i may have done myriad on it or something
so blade of selves + smeagol own end step trigger
5 in total
wraith lance
nice
signal saffron
didnt mill too many and plains is the off colour i didnt need
but it was still fun and good ramp
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archivist has high ceiling
wraith lance
Lots of options tbh
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yeah i dont give savvy a good look, in case you havent noticed XD
need some major powercreep on that one to break out of the jankiest
wraith lance
Its not a bad card but its not stellar either
Everytime I have to discard something it goes
I mean I was looking for space for [[Serah Farron]]
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Legendary Creature — Human Citizen
The first legendary creature spell you cast each turn costs less to cast.
At the beginning of combat on your turn, if you control two or more other legendary creatures, you may transform Serah Farron.
"Our own private heaven."
2/2
Crystallized Serah
Legendary Artifact
The first legendary creature spell you cast each turn costs less to cast.
Legendary creatures you control get +2/+2.
L'Cie who fulfill their Focus for their fal'Cie master are transformed into crystal and granted life eternal.
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the draw seems a bit desperate at 3 mana and 2 food, i assume it doesnt really make that much food on its own since i doesnt have vigilance
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The Cost reduction would be incedibly useful when my commanders inevitably die
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It transform the same turn I cast it
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i want it as my first green white commander because the flavour seems nice
but its going to be too unaffordable
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She will be cheap I think
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It transform the same turn I cast it
if the table see it and have the interaction i mean
hopefully
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Oh then its fine, I'd rather have my 3 mana cost countered
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FF product are skyrocket inflated price
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Instead of Elspeth who seems to be impossible to cast
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i dont see too many artifact removals in lot of game, what about yours
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Yeah but no ones gives a shit about Serah Farron
From one of the worst FF games ever made
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red decks struggle too much to play vandalblast imo
lol
didnt know about most of FF so
idk who serah farron is
wraith lance
FF7 is the big boy
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now... just where did i put my childhood... oh crap
wraith lance
How old are you lol
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as far as i know anyone over 26 is old as balls
do i guess i have to identigy as old as balls?
identify*
wraith lance
I guess I am old as balls too then
wraith lance
MTG in a nutshell
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children gambling is not affordable for children
wraith lance
I'm still pretty young in my LGS compared to most of the white beards
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lol
wraith lance
Oh no, MTG gambling is Casino level
signal saffron
the youngest is a few teen, i am in between with those who collected before i was born
most are middle age/ less than 30
the new players are usually the youngest since they got into the game with universe beyond commander product
not know hoew greedy wotc are, have all the money and nowhere to spend and willing to get their favourite IP at all cost
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also dont care about the direction of the game and lore with what is introduced into the game over recent years
yeah that 30 yr anniv was so bad
wraith lance
I dont care much either but I'd say you won't see me play Spongebob cards ever
signal saffron
official proxy almost as expensive as the original
XD
spongebob is both funny meme as a one time thing and really bad joke
jodah unifier with legends in the 99
automatically a fake bracket 2
it will beat up bracket 3 with no GC cards
5 colour good stuff build around so basically mindless and generic for the most part
and gary, is too much as a card in the game
-4 per turn cycle with all hte overloaded extra abilities on it
Counterspell tho
thats perfect, not a broken card in the format, (maybe broken as a card in the game) but the i CaSt My CoMmAnDeR will be memoriable.
nO yOu DoN't
wraith lance
Yeah
I'm gonna sleep on the Hunter change
It needs to be draw tho
Could just be Black Market COnnection
or [[Vraska Joins Up]] is also interesting
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wraith lance
Anyway, good night.
signal saffron
good nite
signal saffron
the draw seems a bit desperate at 3 mana and 2 food, i assume it doesnt really m...
i will. check for some of that draw replacement
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i came across one in my cards right away
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name is [[hardened tactician]]
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Creature — Human Warrior
, Sacrifice a token: Draw a card.
"Life is full of tough calls. We honor the dead today to make better decisions tomorrow." —Uruna, Mardu lieutenant
2/4
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bennie is still a really good one imo
or its down to the pricey [[caretaker's talent]]
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Enchantment — Class
(Gain the next level as a sorcery to add its ability.)
Whenever one or more tokens you control enter, draw a card. This ability triggers only once each turn.
: Level 2
When this Class becomes level 2, create a token that's a copy of target token you control.
: Level 3
Creature tokens you control get +2/+2.
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Ill probably go with Bennie for now
I just dont make a lot of tokens when its not my turn
Nuka cola vending machine or Pippin, The Shire and Lotho
I guess adding [[Minas Tirith]] could be an arguement
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Legendary Land
Minas Tirith enters tapped unless you control a legendary creature.
: Add .
, : Draw a card. Activate only if you attacked with two or more creatures this turn.
"I would see the White Tree in flower again in the courts of the kings, and Minas Tirith in peace." —Faramir
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Land
This land enters tapped unless you control a Plains.
: Add .
, : Create a 1/1 white Human creature token.
Without Ardenvale's loyalty, the realm would greedily devour itself.
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Oh hell no. 4 mana is way too much
signal saffron
I guess adding [[Minas Tirith]] could be an arguement
yeah if you need more draws and utility in lands, thats one of the good rate, i only have war room in my colours
4 mana too much, need some powercreep upgrades
signal saffron
Oh its not that one.
but your goal is card draw so....
i think tactician is fine with the 2/4 body
its perfect if you have Jaheira out
bennie was the considered legend before so i think one token per round isnt that bad, same rate as idol which used to be in the deck
legendary still more synergy than desperate card draw by sacing all the food
if the goal is multiple draws, than bennie doesnt do it here
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always thought of this thingy but i dont own one, saw it again just now [[mirrex]]
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Land — Sphere
: Add .
: Add one mana of any color. Activate only if this land entered this turn.
, : Create a 1/1 colorless Phyrexian Mite artifact creature token with toxic 1 and "This token can't block." (Players dealt combat damage by it also get a poison counter.)
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slightly less cost, token cant block so i think its not going to cut it and that one time colour mana
[[roadside reliquary]] is nice to trade 1 lands for 2 cards, i didnt check your rate for getting out an enchantment tho
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Land
: Add .
, , Sacrifice this land: Draw a card if you control an artifact. Draw a card if you control an enchantment.
Travelers who leave an offering may pass freely through the forest kami's domain.
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Meh, Bennie will be good enough
signal saffron
XD back to square one
this is like my exact line for the deck build half a week ago
let me go take a [[peek]] and [[predict]] the future adjustment to the deck
signal saffron
tbf, it is way less pressure than brewing my own deck
and i only have to somewhat simulate what are the likelyhood scenario in a real game instead of playing out the real game with potential misplays and salt from opponents' attitude
anything beyond that it will be the perfect optimization to the nearly .1% of increasing the odd of drawing the exact card for each moment
i cant do that in my decks with no tutors
wraith lance
Tbh Bennie will be there until I find a suitable enchantment or artifact instead. Board wipes are too common in my pods to fill my board with creatures with barely any protection
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For the lands. No reasons not to play the Pathways lands right?
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[[Bonecache Overseer]] first time seeing this card, i like this type of jank
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Creature — Squirrel Warlock
, Pay 1 life: Draw a card. Activate only if three or more cards left your graveyard this turn or if you've sacrificed a Food this turn.
"Bring me my harvest."
1/1
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For the lands. No reasons not to play the Pathways lands right?
i mean, if they help with turn 3 Frodo Sam food
thats no downside as long as you figure out turn 1 Green pip
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Tbh Bennie will be there until I find a suitable enchantment or artifact instead...
I am still waiting for some of those FF to drop and see who bad it is to go up some of those, that [[Fabled seph soldier]] is screaming aristocrat + gravepact lock, boardwipe? how about instant speed non-stop stax lock
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i dont think any amount of defense is enough when one of those games happens, you just cant really deal with everything. Just have to find that right timing to deploy the game plan knowing when that board wipe may happen. If 3 boardwipe uses to be the lowest amount needed in a deck, I am slowly raising that number to 5 and maybe 6 with recursion. Just harder to find all the onesided ones. And that Dawn after the dust settles is the ideal moment to rebuild. This is why I find [[Dusk Dawn]] so thematic and fitting both flavour and mechanic wise
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Sorcery
Destroy all creatures with power 3 or greater.
Dawn
Sorcery
Aftermath (Cast this spell only from your graveyard. Then exile it.)
Return all creature cards with power 2 or less from your graveyard to your hand.
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as a card, it is definite lot worse than it used to be. 4 mana used to be the best rate in the best boardwipe colours. and one sided in the right deck on top of that. What has powercreep came to be
I feel like medallion or some storm synergy/ saves it a bit by lowing that casting cost. Whats the new crystal card you are waiting for?
signal saffron
Honestly, the only changes I'd do is to find space for [[The wind Crystal]] and ...
find it
wraith lance
[[The darkness crystal]]
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Legendary Artifact
Black spells you cast cost less to cast.
If a nontoken creature an opponent controls would die, instead exile it and you gain 2 life.
, : Put target creature card exiled with The Darkness Crystal onto the battlefield tapped under your control with two additional +1/+1 counters on it.
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Legendary Artifact
Green spells you cast cost less to cast.
If one or more +1/+1 counters would be put on a creature you control, twice that many +1/+1 counters are put on that creature instead.
, : Distribute two +1/+1 counters among one or two target creatures you control.
signal saffron
Hm. Good card but doest synergise that well
need all that gravehate for the dictate pact lock XD
i may look into and you gain 2 life. more to see what may help 😩
why is this deck so far off from my colours, tbf i need some life gain for my own deck as well and i still dont own a [[whip of erebos]], even precon cost so much nowadays
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Legendary Enchantment Artifact
Creatures you control have lifelink.
, : Return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield. It gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step. If it would leave the battlefield, exile it instead of putting it anywhere else. Activate only as a sorcery.
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Hm. Good card but doest synergise that well
i think most of those are really just medallion upgrades since it is pushing toward cutting lands for cost reducers and MDFCs for less dead-card-draws
if a low curve deck wants medallion, the high curve fun commander big stuff wants both
oh great more harden scale added to the game
3 cards in one card at 4 mana rate, can it get any better Yes it can and it will
i think upgrades may also have a point of stopping, otherwise it will never end. finding that comfortable sweet spot is [[chiefs kiss]]
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signal saffron
knowing that that journey and this thread may soon comes to an end?
wraith lance
Indeed. I do have a 2nd deck in Gruul that I'll be hitting soon if you are interested
signal saffron
perfect, i need to get some of my paper decks online too to share
i will be heading to my sunday LGS in less than an hour, i will come check what you got in this thread
actually we can just keep chating here for the guurl deck dont even need a new thread
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Alright, so I've tagged the cards, put everything that I'd like to put in with the ! x2 Icon
Bello is a commander that needs a ton of Ramp and a lot of protection to run well
A guy playing Bello at my LGS just told me "Leylines man" and I just had to add them to the deck
I wanna switch up my Ramp from Raccoons to Elves for better T1 consistency (And they do the same for less mana anyway
I need more interactions too. Playing Hobbits made me realize the importance of Interactions even in Gruul
Also getting my Bello blown up all the time kills the deck
Deck is weak to getting rushed when all your stuff arent creatures so I need Fog effects too
Or tokens to block with
wraith lance
Alright, I think the list is solid
Solid enough for a few games at my LGS
Draws seems low but Bello is a draw engine himself, as long as he stays alive I won't have any problems there
Landbase is fixed with cheap cards. I didnt wanna spend too much here.
signal saffron
dang that optimization on opening leylines XD
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A guy playing Bello at my LGS just told me "Leylines man" and I just had to add ...
glad i didnt finish reading to the end before i checked the list
i dont remember all the best cards with this commander but i iam sure we will find them all if not already in the list
[[woodland guidance]] may have a place in this deck but it is also janky
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worst case its a bad regrowth
i dont like gruul signets unless there are additional artifact synergy; mostly because it makes the deck even weaker to aritfact wipes
it may not ehappen in most of the game but that one time with an artifact land and your opponent happens to be able to kill all, those hurts
if it is farewell then you just have to suck it up and take it
I am perfectly fine with turn 3 overlapping commander's curve because he may not even come out on turn 3
overall, very aggressive ramp into multiple big drops and refill hand, not missing land drops, everything going well togetehr
then it just comes down to, how much fun stuff you can fit in, my own would probably be like [[city on fire]]
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Enchantment
Convoke (Your creatures can help cast this spell. Each creature you tap while casting this spell pays for or one mana of that creature's color.)
If a source you control would deal damage to a permanent or player, it deals triple that damage instead.
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nevin disk + [[darksteel ingot]]
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Artifact
Indestructible (Effects that say "destroy" don't destroy this artifact.)
: Add one mana of any color.
"It reflects the purity of Mirrodin-that-was." —Koth of the Hammer
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will do deeper dive when i am done my shift
your LGS has no bracket 2s? XD remind me of what my used to be
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Also getting my Bello blown up all the time kills the deck
yeah, playing against bello, i think we destroyed it like 4-6 times but it was turn 1 sol ring so missing land drops eaerly didnt stop him. and it was 3 player pod too that didnt help
signal saffron
Or tokens to block with
so, more effect like threefold thunderhulk, i think there are vehicles like that but idr if they cost 3 or 4
havent play tested, will do later
wraith lance
Few cards of note would be [[Roaming Throne]] which is pretty incredible in this deck
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Artifact Creature — Golem
Ward
As this creature enters, choose a creature type.
This creature is the chosen type in addition to its other types.
If a triggered ability of another creature you control of the chosen type triggers, it triggers an additional time.
4/4
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signal saffron
[[bello bard brambles]]
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signal saffron
oh wow i didnt even realize
attempts mutate
elemental getting mence is something i rememeber a lord could do
signal saffron
Canada prices are inflated too
oh you are also in Canada?
🫳
🫴
couldnt find a high five emote
🤦 <closest there is
Best way to play combat aggro strategy as a Canadian "i aM sOrRy. Swing as you for 16 damage."
wraith lance
XD
Yeah Bello transform every enchantments into Elementals
[[Molten echoes]] It makes this card pretty much one of the strongest things
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wraith lance
ttyl
signal saffron
i guess ther are many other molten echoes effect too, but with side conditions. i really want to make the coin flip one work in my decks
wraith lance
[[Mirror march]]
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Yeah it's very strong too
signal saffron
but it can be 0 which is a major issue at 6mana and 50% rate
i draw it once, my next big creature got countered, then the smaller one also got countered in the same turn
wraith lance
In bello its still fine since everything is a 4/4 haste indestructible creature that draws if you do combat damage.
signal saffron
yeah bello is broken during your turn
its so hard to change that playstyle just to get defense for yourself XD
its like "I dont like blockers and I live will die on that hill if I have to am going to die aint I." type of bold statement every game. I like it too much to fix that issue
all it takes is a good fog effect
i havent gotten much time to look more indepth in the deck but i will get back on it
wraith lance
Well the old version of the deck was just "ramp like crazy, then kill people asap" I played around 25 ramp cards. It works well enough but it's cut short by the entire table trying to kill you.
signal saffron
exactly
~~minor issues ~~ the whole problem with that strategy
so it really depends on how "greedy" you want to be or you can be
weird optimization, may need the calculator
on card types and stuff
signal saffron
yeah, deck looks solid. Unless they hate you out of your commander with some spiteful targeting play, the aggro plan with all leylines is going to go fast and smooth. Idk how many speed bumps in your local areas though XD
wraith lance
We'll see, lots of players and lots of different decks
signal saffron
i think all my mentions are either ramp/untap related, or just bigger and stronger "creatures"
all 4=> enchantment artifact is always fun
you have that one raccon with expertise 8 right?ee
is that what the mechanic is called
spend 8 or more mana that turn
for spells
wraith lance
Its on the sideline right now
signal saffron
yeah i dont have those bloomburrow cards to test
wraith lance
Im trying the elf ball just for consistency T1
signal saffron
but they dont draw much attention and good value in high mana value decks
makes sense
my prediction for this deck
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[[Trailtracker scout]]
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Creature — Raccoon Scout
: Add one mana of any color.
Whenever you expend 8, return up to one target permanent card from your graveyard to your hand. (You expend 8 as you spend your eighth total mana to cast spells during a turn.)
It takes great courage—and great curiosity—to tail calamity.
1/3
signal saffron
is probably getting those tempo turns -> commanders and perfect curves
add gas to get to the finish line
leylines has a small chance of getting cut
because rn, none of their effect really matters
they are just 
beaters
wraith lance
With Bello the only thing that matters is that they are 4 mana enchanters yes
Usually means that I'll get at least 1 draw from them as soon as Bello hit the battlefield
signal saffron
the "No bad cards in this grandpa's deck" with 4 mana value is a fun build around. I may try to brew one online non paper copy
bello in the 99 is how far i am willing to go
and all the super old janks
wraith lance
At least 4 of those Leylines can be useful tho
signal saffron
[[monkey cage]] is definitely getting in here
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wraith lance
Abundance with Elfball
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were there only 7, not an even number
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[[leyline abundance]]
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Enchantment
If this card is in your opening hand, you may begin the game with it on the battlefield.
Whenever you tap a creature for mana, add an additional .
: Put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control.
signal saffron
i love abundance but i wish i own a svylan library
oh you meant leyline one
yeah.... i like that one too >.>
nowhere nearly the card draw replacement one
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[[Leyline punishment]]
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signal saffron
XD fits my playstyle
wraith lance
Lifegain decks can just f off
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but it is self destruction
wraith lance
Kill my hobbits thats a given
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[[Leyline Vitality]]
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awwhhh i want bello in the 99 even more just so i can do many other colours 😩
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resonance what for
protection?
only remembered like two green spell in the deck
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Instant
Escalate (Pay this cost for each mode chosen beyond the first.)
Choose one or more —
• Destroy target artifact.
• Destroy target enchantment.
• Target creature gains hexproof and indestructible until end of turn.
wraith lance
If I target Myself, then Resonance activated
wraith lance
Can I choose another option for the copy?&
signal saffron
it probably works
but not 100% sure since the wording isnt the same as feather / zada
[[zada he grinder]] i forgot the middle word and this sounds a little gay
wraith lance
Nothing that starts with Feather
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[[feather, the redeemed]]
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signal saffron
you have gruul identity set so moxfield is annoying
wraith lance
doesnt fit anyway so its fine
signal saffron
i like archidekt more user friendly or just straight up google
was checking for ruling
so feather doesnt say "only"
wraith lance
[[Leyline of vitality]] lets Bello dodges 3 damage spells
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if a spell targets 1000 things and one of that is "creature oyu control"
wraith lance
or the Tribal -3/-3 board wipe
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feather will trigger
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OK
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zada on the other hand sees only spells that target zada regardless of how many times it targets zada
because the wording on resonance seems to be referring to targeting only one creature rather than a creature
i think it is very much what Zada is doing
so you can only copy the model spell if you target your own artifact enchantment hexproof indestructible all on the same target
and with that order, it will destroy before giving indestructible making it pointless
if you have regenerate, that gets interesting
wraith lance
Well Bello makes every artifact and enchantments indestructible so it could work no?
signal saffron
and still gets the destroy part
wraith lance
I mean I would cast the spell to protect bello in the first place
signal saffron
interesting combat trick to say the least
but then you cant destroy anything
so that hexproof indes is just doing the normal thing
resonance is doing extra and it kinda works
cOmBo
/s
wraith lance
Big Bracket 2 plays
signal saffron
double collective resistance, isnt bad at all
its a card from MH3
big powercreep trash design wonderful* card quality upgrades
wraith lance
Indeed
wraith lance
Meh I'm ok with it.
signal saffron
$ to design to perpetual chasing powercreep to turn the jank format into a rotational format
toooooo toooo tooo much to talk about
i dont mind the tapped lands mdfcs at all since lands is a core part of making the game more playable
but 3 life untapped mono colour mdfc
those are removing the downside of mdfc too much
so they are like the auto include in the 99, sol ring , arcane signet problem
i want 1+ the 99, not 1+ the 90 after putting in every staples of the colour
wraith lance
I get it. I'm back in MTG after 12 years so I'm discovering a ton of cards
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so from a unique and good design perspective i very much avoid MH3 cards, game play* and powerlevel perspective i think you HAVE to play those cards
wraith lance
but watching a 2 years old video feels irrelevant now because some of the suggested upgrades just got outclassed already
[[Sanguine Bond]] being a good example
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lol
wraith lance
vs [[Enduring Tenacity]]
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yeah
"buu.. but it can be exiled with path and swords" "shut up, you are also the one playing white at the table"
when more typings isnt a real downside for delirum or whatever dies triggers
but duskmourn imo is still more fair of the bunch
i like the tenacity cycle
with the exception that for higher power, they are just redundancy to the two card infinite
wraith lance
Oh yeah, playing them all feels cheap
It just add more consistency to the most boring combo of MTG
signal saffron
it really breaks that "tutoring breaks the spirit of the format" by playing singletons
so its really tutor+ extra 2 cards infinites
i will do a quick play test on bello now
looking at war storm surge, i wonder if you can do pandemonium
the symmetrical one
wraith lance
dont know it
signal saffron
say as war storm surge ability
but for creatures on all sides
i think it is triple red cost maybe
1 less mana
yep i spelt it eright
[[pandemonium]]
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signal saffron
bello is a very high target for target removal tho
wraith lance
Theres chaos and theres "Just fuck my shit up fam""
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Enchantment
Creatures you control have hexproof.
: Regenerate target creature. (The next time it would be destroyed this turn, instead tap it, remove it from combat, and heal all damage on it.)
"Let my ignominy build walls thicker than iron and stronger than darksteel." —Thrun, the last troll
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gotta refresh the list
Honestly its more Mana base fixing, with all the pathways lands and a few more
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make sense
wraith lance
[[Kambal profittering]] added
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[[Kambal profiteering mayor]]
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signal saffron
i have that card, havent put it in a deck
it either does nothing or it does everything non stop
wraith lance
Its a better Nadier's nightblade for me
wraith lance
I mean it works for any token
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[[Nadier's nightblade]] was this ever mentioend in this thread
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Mirkwood never left the Precon
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yep
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Played 3 games Monday and lost all 3
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yeah i put too much attention on profiteer kambal s first ability
wraith lance
I hate [[Meren of clan nel toth]]
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i kinda forgot it does the mirrored part of nidiersnightblade
wraith lance
Yeah and I'd rather keep the tokens until they are needed
signal saffron
how bad is the meren oyu faced, is it the most generic crap
wraith lance
Lucky enough to get my board wiped every turn
forcing me to sacrifice my commanders
Could get anything out
couldnt*
wraith lance
Whats the creature that forces everybody to sacrifice a creature on ETB
signal saffron
better learn to play some stax /s
wraith lance
Merciless killer or something
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[[no mercy]]
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wraith lance
No its a creature
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Some armored dude with a Battle Axe
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the new FF card sephi fabled soldier
kinda leans super heavy into sac 4 creatures gravepact lock type of deck
so all the marauders are super synergistic in those decks
even if not built or played well
only my higher power decks can deal with a gravepact lock properly without relying on 2 +card combo/creatureless win con
wraith lance
Yeah. so that was the first 2 games. 3rd game the loss was on me
signal saffron
to counter the "you cant play any creatures type of stax" the real counter is "you cant play at my table/ or else I wont let you play magic in general" deck
wraith lance
because I didnt realize the guy could do over 60 damage to everyone when his commander blew up
Couldve interacted
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i think i dont have any proper bracket 4 decks that have no resources denial/ heavy interactions in them
wraith lance
Yeah I'm thinking on adding more MDFC lands that interact
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i bring chaos with lot of collateral damage
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[[Fell the profane]]
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Instant
Destroy target creature or planeswalker.
"I can think of no fate more fitting for one so foul as you." —Aryel, knight of Windgrace
Fell Mire
Land
As this land enters, you may pay 3 life. If you don't, it enters tapped.
: Add .
"The Nethermire is all the salvation you deserve." —Aryel, knight of Windgrace
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yep thats auto include its from MH3
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[[Witch enchanter]]
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Creature — Human Warlock
When this creature enters, destroy target artifact or enchantment an opponent controls.
Shilgengar's famine once starved Stensia into embracing vampirism. The Dawnhart Coven would not let the same happen to Kessig.
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Witch-Blessed Meadow
Land
As this land enters, you may pay 3 life. If you don't, it enters tapped.
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"Ghrin-Danu will not let her people go hungry." —Katilda, Dawnhart Prime
signal saffron
ideally in a bounce deck
but at worst single use is all it needs
this one got expensive too iirc
wraith lance
yeah, 15$ CAD
signal saffron
not getting one since at bracket 4/Cedh i will just proxy for colours i dont like to play/own/not rakdos
so far i havent proxied at cards
wraith lance
My next deck will have proxies for sure
I'm already 1700$ deep into this shit lol
thats 2 decks
signal saffron
if you got some salty games/ cards you think no one deserves to see, let me know. i want to proxy those in the highest power level against disrespectful and dispicable opponents
lol my average deck not counting my 10+ years old somewhat optimized decks is like $50-75 CAD
wraith lance
There's a treasure version of my hobbits deck in Red/green
signal saffron
i spent not more than 1k per year and usually $50 avg per month on singles
cant afford any precon even if i want them
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signal saffron
ohhhh thats fun
wraith lance
Other guy I might wanna make is [[Ketramose]]
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wraith lance
The ultimate anti Graveyard decks
"Oh you got recursion? my bad bro"
With a ton of flicker cards to proc Ketramose
signal saffron
so i have seen people use void leyline with ketramose which is a nonbo
instead you will need [[planar void]]
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signal saffron
to get the triggers properly
wraith lance
yes
signal saffron
i dont like any build path that optimize ketramose so it doesnt interest me that much in the commander zone
if the 99 can function without it, i think it will be more interesting
wraith lance
Hobbits has been upgraded on Moxfield
signal saffron
farewell to draw back 1 card really doesnt make it good
but people will put farewell in all their decks
okay i will check it out now
same link at the top?
wraith lance
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signal saffron
i think that works just fine
wraith lance
Like I said Its mostly lands
signal saffron
i see the newly added battle
wraith lance
Ill try it instead of Dusk
I also bought Slaughter the strong in case
Super cheap and stil pretty good in this deck
I'm only missing [[Verdant Catacombs]] and my lands are pretty much set, except the MDFC lands I could add
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Land
, Pay 1 life, Sacrifice this land: Search your library for a Swamp or Forest card, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle.
wraith lance
I still need to find 2 cards to remove for Wind Crystal and Aerith
Gyome is next on the chopping block so that might be him
Maybe an interact if I add the mdfc lands
signal saffron
[[$slaughter the strong]] is cheap right
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signal saffron
if i have more copies i wouldnt mind giving those out to ours, one of my top recommandered one sided wipes that get around heroic
[[Aerith Gyome]]
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signal saffron
interesting that you pick stroke of midnight over beast within or genelephant gift
wraith lance
1/1 is more inconsequential
signal saffron
just running around my house doing some errands and stuffs
side boards are the cuts?
wraith lance
Yeah
signal saffron
rip midnight snack i really like that card guess it didnt make it
getting to fat with all the late night calories
too*
you really hate bennie and rather do idol lol
looks like good cut with replacements, hardly able to tell what the land changes were so it should be fine /ideal
going to try put some of my cards online and play test before my LGS tomorrow, taking decks apart to rebuild into other things gotten lazy with that
still not sure how to give myself the protection/ shroud effect for my chaos pandemonium
not even sure if hexproof can get around it
because the source is my opponents creature but the ability is my own enchantment
but i like [[bedlum]] type of effects in general, like coat of arm, they are the game ending turn caterhoof big drop so there should be a crack back
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signal saffron
shouldn't be*
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signal saffron
actually bedlam may work in bello for that game winning turn
if they aetherise, bedlam goes away too
but it is more expensive, i have my copy from decade old
wraith lance
you really hate bennie and rather do idol lol
Im creature heavy and I dont have a lot of protection. Board wipes fuck me up a lot
signal saffron
yeah i can tell
is the interactions you play enough
or need more protections
idk if there are any good reanimate for hobbits / just white protection that are weaker teferi's pro
signal saffron
i think protection is always something the hobbit deck seems to lack, but its not like you have too many good counterspell options
[[lapse of certainty]] is one that people overlook a lot
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signal saffron
and no synergy since there are no white spellslinger if you exclude jeskai
wraith lance
I mean, depending on the players.
Newer players tend to play more ""fair" and conservative
I feel like I am the one policing the table most of the time
and I get hit for it
Hell, even having 2-3 more life than the rest makes me a target
The Meren deck that fucked us up? Couldve died 2 turns ago but the 2 others wanted to make the game last as 4 players as much as possible
when they shouldve killed him the moment he had his loop
If I ever plays GCs, Teferi will def be one of them
Instead of Protection I could also run some recursion
signal saffron
Newer players tend to play more ""fair" and conservative
newer players, often has really bad threat assessment and remove anything that "maybe" a potential threat to them like it is a 1vs 1 game
and not pay into consideration of any future bigger threats as the game progresses into the late game
wraith lance
"I have the mana, might as well use it"
signal saffron
policing the table or politicking with the table?
wraith lance
Being the dude casting interacts to remove threats
Feeling like I'm the only one with interacts in the deck
signal saffron
new player are scared of fast decks and doesnt know what combos decks can win late or got no interactions against midrange which are probably the most powerful decks in free for all multi player turn based games like commander
there is really not perfect "optimization" at that point
perfect mana based makes your own 99 playable
yet other players who dont see the value and connection between mana base and the non mana cards
have no idea what maybe coming at them
wraith lance
One thing of note; [[Jaheira]] changes the way my deck runs so hard
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Legendary Creature — Human Elf Druid
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"The Harpers' movement grows, but it needs sunlight to blossom. We can be that light."
2/3
wraith lance
If I had to play Tutors it would be exclusively for her
signal saffron
make sense
thats why i want her as the commander in my build
just hard to balance out the tokens
wraith lance
Yeah, her and Agent of the Iron Thronw