This is the current decklist and i dont want it to get much more expensive https://archidekt.com/decks/13095016/golgari
#Gitrog monster commander deck reccomendations?
acoustic wren
orchid shoal
Some things that stick out immediately:
Deathrite Shaman is a nonbo since it exiles your own lands for ramp (talking strictly about self sufficiency)
Maybe run more land recursion effects (Crucible of Worlds, the room from DSK, etc)
Cut your "finisher" tagged creatures for better synergy or at least something that doesn't get stopped by chump blockers.
Maybe check out cards with the "dredge" keyword?
acoustic wren
oki
pale pagoda
[[$cruicible of worlds]]
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pale pagoda
i dont think I can agree with this add for both price and function if it is the only card in the deck to lands played from grave
i am fine with deathrite shaman IF you dont need to play the same land over and over; the utility on it as a one drop is one of the best
from the expenzsivest to cheapest[[$ancient greenwarden]][[$conduit of worlds]] [[$ramunap excavatir]]
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[[undergrowth recon]] this one i find a bit slow and even worst with terra/expand
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[[restore]] this works on all grave not just your own
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[[$perennial behemoth]]
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the cheapest$ version but its also one of the highest mana cost
i think out [[conduit of worlds]] is byfar the best and cheap$wise cruicilbe of worlds effect you can buy and yet to have in the deck
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Artifact
You may play lands from your graveyard.
: Choose target nonland permanent card in your graveyard. If you haven't cast a spell this turn, you may cast that card. If you do, you can't cast additional spells this turn. Activate only as a sorcery.
pale pagoda
and not being a creature is pretty nice :P
[[on the trail]] with the land sac draw on opponent's turn will be really good too [[$on the trail]]
pale pagoda
I see felt like i saw so many removal in the deck 😅 just how much do your pod have big stuff out all the time. okay, not all of them are removal. still lot of instant spells
[[murder]] i think there are many upgrades on this one, from MDFC to bulk spot removal. recently [[$tear asunder]] got reprinted
pale pagoda
the cheapest of all within its cycle [[$emer medallion]]
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pale pagoda
almost every card in the deck (outside of the instant package) are green, this is probably the best cost reducer/ramp you can get for this deck
but also one of the priciest card i can suggest if you don't already own it. @acoustic wren Proof yourself as a green mage!?!
expect your collection to have like 20 of those
[[drown in filth]] not a big fan of this one, since it depends on how fast lands get into the grave
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pale pagoda
it does bit of both for mill and removal, but not the best at either imo
personally i prefer... [grisly salvage]]
[[grisly salvage]]
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pale pagoda
still 2 mana, still mill at least 4
but card selection instead of -toughness
instant is worth to noting
[[uurg, spawn of turg]] i cant come to like because it is just too much resources for too little payoff
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Legendary Creature — Frog Beast
Uurg's power is equal to the number of land cards in your graveyard.
At the beginning of your upkeep, surveil 1. (Look at the top card of your library. You may put that card into your graveyard.)
, Sacrifice a land: You gain 2 life.
*/5
pale pagoda
3 colour pips 3 drop that is hard to get out early, wait a round for a potential surveil 1, preferably a land/ 2 open mana to lose a land and gain life
i assume it is a filler card that is easy to take out for anything better
with how much land focus the deck is running, a landfall etb trigger would probably be the most consistent way to end the game
tbh, i think going bracket 2 is better for lowering the budget (not that it matters if you already own all those cards) and for some of the gameplay (preference). Because lot of the lands that are the best in game are just very expensive; crop rotation has very limited tutoring effect other than Glacial Chasm. If you are someone who dont really like playing with tutors, 2 of the 3 game changers are tutor here. If you have your own play group, there is also a chance of having a rule 0 conversation of having glacial Chasm yet to be a bracket 2 deck. Those are just my suggestions without actually changing much of what the deck is doing and still find its place in the format. The rest is up to you
in my case, I would probably go either turbo combo (tutorless?) frog or just value land sac fun and combat dmage FTW
i forgot about dakmor salvage, crop can search that too
[[sylvan srying]] this card does not scry
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[[insidous root]] + avenger of zendikar
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Enchantment
Creature tokens you control have ": Add one mana of any color."
Whenever one or more creature cards leave your graveyard, create a 0/1 green Plant creature token, then put a +1/+1 counter on each Plant you control.
The roots of Vitu-Ghazi allowed Trostani to reach every crack and crevice in the city.
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Artifact
, Sacrifice a permanent: You gain 1 life.
When the Brotherhood of Gix dug out the cave of Koilos they found their master's severed hand. They enshrined it, hoping that one day it would point the way to Phyrexia.
pale pagoda
[[$claws of gix]]
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pale pagoda
if tutoring certain piece is to create redundancy in the deck, then same effect can sometimes provide that alternative (Zuran orb) in this case
ofc, lot of cheap$ tutors as more cards are getting printed, some are just more conditional to have lower than 4 mana value
delirum is a good match with gorgari in general
one last note from me, would be kinda a silly idea. more bounce lands
not just the colourless ones, but especially the OG ones
2 are colourless [[everglades]] & [[jungle basin]]
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Land
This land enters tapped.
When this land enters, sacrifice it unless you return an untapped Swamp you control to its owner's hand.
: Add 
.
Land
This land enters tapped.
When this land enters, sacrifice it unless you return an untapped Forest you control to its owner's hand.
: Add .
pale pagoda
they are awful by nowaday's standard so they are dirt cheap
acoustic wren
holy wasnt expecting to see all this lol
pale pagoda
but in gitrog, you actually have the option of having itself sac'ed to draw
if it entered untapped, then you can tap them for mana
before they go away
without [[primal amulet]] there is only the single spelunking in the deck but it is still 2 mana per land drop from grave
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Artifact
Instant and sorcery spells you cast cost less to cast.
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, put a charge counter on this artifact. Then if there are four or more charge counters on it, you may remove those counters and transform it.
Primal Wellspring
Land
(Transforms from Primal Amulet.)
: Add one mana of any color. When that mana is spent to cast an instant or sorcery spell, copy that spell and you may choose new targets for the copy.
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pale pagoda
holy wasnt expecting to see all this lol
yeah i can talk about lands all day long, and this is a land deck
acoustic wren
ooo so amulet of vigor basically counters effects like authority of the consuls right
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pale pagoda
i guess so, if something enters tapped, it will trigger
if something enters then an effect taps it, then it wont
enters untapped*
[[authority of the consuls]]
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[[blindness obedi]]
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[[blind obed]]
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Enchantment
Extort (Whenever you cast a spell, you may pay 
. If you do, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain that much life.)
Artifacts and creatures your opponents control enter tapped.
"By the time your knees have worn through your robe, you may have begun to learn your place."
pale pagoda
yeah far as i know prim vigor counters both
and the vampire that makes 1/1 if something enters untapped and stays untapped
lol i said the name worng again, its amult of vigor, no primal in the name
[[$amulet of vigor]]
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pale pagoda
too expensive for my soul
acoustic wren
yeaaa its a bit on the pricy side
i own a fair amount of the cards ive put in here
with the amount of cards i own its shaving about 160 dollars of the price
pale pagoda
cards that may deserve a slot if you are looking through chat, conduit of worlds, on the trail, grisly salvage, sylvan scrying , claws of gix
mdfc are lands on the back, means they can be played as a land if an effect allows for it, but it will not work with gitrog card draw unless it is sacrifice from the battlefield, i can check on this rule
nopes
doesnt trigger gitrog at all
i would still consider [[bala recovery]]
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Sorcery
Return target card from your graveyard to your hand.
"Always have a backup plan." —Doral, Bala Ged guide
Bala Ged Sanctuary
Land
This land enters tapped.
: Add .
"I know it's around here somewhere." —Doral, Bala Ged guide
acoustic wren
i gotta figure out the best things to cut as well tho
pale pagoda
its regrowth for 3 mana
i mentioned UUrg
murder
potentially tutors but mainly if you want to go down in brackets
or play style choice
acoustic wren
i wanna be able to play at a 3 cause thats what most people at my LGS play
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pale pagoda
0/3 blocker each on
extra land is alright
single drop from gitrog allows it to come out
i think the cut should be in the middle or where the deck has the most redundancies or high mana curve
i think the early game feels too slow
lot of things only comes out AFTER the commander
pale pagoda
going to look at the 4 drops and above
if turn 3 ramp
turn 4 commander 5 drop
instead of other things
acoustic wren
i think apex devastator probably be worth cutting
pale pagoda
i think so, that one is more of a fun thing that is more broken in other decks
acoustic wren
although "cascade, cascade, cascade, cascade" is hilarious
pale pagoda
this one is unecessary and takes a while to play
if it is a ramp into big things deck
i would say keep
landfall can get much better value
acoustic wren
a lot of things i put i just because "you can play extra lands each turn"
pale pagoda
[[deadly dispute]] no sac fodder
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Instant
As an additional cost to cast this spell, sacrifice an artifact or creature.
Draw two cards and create a Treasure token. (It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Add one mana of any color.")
"That's a pretty ring! Trade you my knife for it."
acoustic wren
like oracle of mul daya
pale pagoda
yeah if there is card adventage
then azusa is one of the most busted ramp
all the play lands from grave is basically card advantage without drawing
while gitrog is the other way around, draw by "losing" cards
anything that replace itself turn gitrog -1 +1 into a +2
[[ash barren]] replace a land
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Land
: Add .
Basic landcycling (, Discard this card: Search your library for a basic land card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.)
pale pagoda
discard get back two
the colour ones i would hold back for now since they enters tapped
same for the colour desert discard cost 2 instead of 1
[[smeagol, helpful guide]] feels meh, hard to sac creautres on board
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[[smeagol, helpful guide]] feels meh, hard to sac creautres on board
he was originally in there cause i was gonna make a gitrog ravenous ride deck at first
but realized the monster might just be better
acoustic wren
welll yargle and multani were gonna ride gitrog
pale pagoda
a bit lost in this deck
yeah i think i would be taking out those two i mentioned
i dont like [[blooming marsh]] at all
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Land
This land enters tapped unless you control two or fewer other lands.
: Add or .
pale pagoda
turn 3 is the last time it enters untapped
pale pagoda
and there are lot of additional land drop
acoustic wren
the only deck i have that sees any success is my koma cosmos serpent deck lol
pale pagoda
rinse and repeat
i did world eater for the laziest deck i have built
just big mana spells i never got to play in simic colours
pale pagoda
and irresponsibility with close to no counterspell in the deck dispite open mana
blue white are my mortal enemies in terms of colour pair
ohh i guess i need to mention a nonbo
since i gave the og mono colour bounce lands
those are the bad etb that [[greenwarden]] hates
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with [[amulet of vigor]]
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pale pagoda
since it is a trigger effect unlike spelunking
it will still trigger twice and untap twice
but jungle basin either bounce two untapped forest to hand
OR attempts to sac itself twice
acoustic wren
[[awaken the woods]] and [[ashnod's altar]] seems like it could be kinda busted with gitrog out
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Artifact
Sacrifice a creature: Add .
"If you work at sawing up carcasses, you notice how the joints fit, how the nerves are arrayed, and how the skin peels back." —Ashnod, to Tawnos
acoustic wren
dont they count as lands?
pale pagoda
hitting the grave
acoustic wren
oh
pale pagoda
tokens are not cards
acoustic wren
i thought tokens still hit the graveyard when they died
pale pagoda
in a deck that has countless creatures, making lot of mana with ashnod altar still can make X spell really bad, then the dryad coming down will trigger landfall countless times
yes tokens hits the grave
but [[gitrog monster]] specific
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pale pagoda
cards
if it say lands, then any form of lands hitting the grave will trigger it
and it sees each time land(s) rather than each land touch the grave
acoustic wren
Ahh
pale pagoda
so an effect or cost that sac all the lands at once
will only trigger it for a single draw
rather than multiple draw
one land one draw, 10 lands one draw
and it triggers AFTER the card is put from anywhere in the graveyard, rather than leave somewhere and put into the graveyard
which is why the MDFC thing i said before wont work
a small semintic i guess
I am ruling geek
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[[springheart nantuko]] is a really good card, i just dont see the place for it in the deck
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Enchantment Creature — Insect Monk
Bestow
Enchanted creature gets +1/+1.
Landfall — Whenever a land you control enters, you may pay if this permanent is attached to a creature you control. If you do, create a token that's a copy of that creature. If you didn't create a token this way, create a 1/1 green Insect creature token.
1/1
pale pagoda
low creature count to begin with, so not many options to enchant
if it has to enchant, the creatures that are worth are decently high cost in mana
acoustic wren
i was kinda thinking rampaging baloths would be a good target for that
idk
ill cut it
idk how to win with the deck rn
but surely
with the amount of card advantage thats to be had
lol
pale pagoda
so it will be a big creature + 2 mana worth of mana to enchant and still need landfall to trigger for follow up play
if the deck has smaller creatures i think it would be a great add
all the 6 + mana double green creatures
something needs to get cut
acoustic wren
i could probably remove the gitrog, ravenous ride
pale pagoda
multani can win games with trample
acoustic wren
he doesnt really fit into the deck anymore
pale pagoda
yeah ravenous ride need big power
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acoustic wren
but idk
pale pagoda
its ... okay, not great. i just dont know how many times you want to spend mana on it
its strong if
you have no board after a boardwipe
and a graveyard full of lands
it just kinda got out powercreeped ?
acoustic wren
i think i cut it
pale pagoda
[[titania, nature's force]] on the fence about this one
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pale pagoda
i dont know this card too well though
with no dual lands, a total of 14 forest in the deck
snow dual comes in tapped and is cheap, but even with all the duals, idk if you actually want this, i think this is where i cut it for [[conduit of worlds]]
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Artifact
You may play lands from your graveyard.
: Choose target nonland permanent card in your graveyard. If you haven't cast a spell this turn, you may cast that card. If you do, you can't cast additional spells this turn. Activate only as a sorcery.
pale pagoda
i would cut one removal here between deathsprout or drown in filth
acoustic wren
cut drown in filth
pale pagoda
i checked, the deck dont have enough ramp
so gitrog is not coming out early most of the time
i think the land count is high enough, 2-3 mana sorcery that gets more lands into play would do
i dont usually try to put cultivate/yavimiya reach in two colour decks but those are cheap commander staples most people already own
ramparting growth is is fine as one for one dont need all the more expensive forest ramp
there is another version of [[harrow]] th is it in here
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pale pagoda
svylvan scrying doesnt ramp since the card doesnt go to the field
oh yeah entish restoration is already in here
i am sure you like [[ashaya, soul of the wild]] its fun, I just cant find the payoff for it in here. let me know if i am missing something
pale pagoda
[[life // death]] cant really see the payoff on this one either
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Sorcery
All lands you control become 1/1 creatures until end of turn. They're still lands.
Death
Sorcery
Return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield. You lose life equal to its mana value.
pale pagoda
both cards cares about creature cards in some ways
for death to be worth it, will need some fast self mill
reanimate is really good
acoustic wren
hmm
pale pagoda
[[dredge]] i think this isnt worth it
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pale pagoda
even without the sac
its one mana one card
with no creatures out, you HAVE TO sac a land
if there are like 8 lands on board, it deosnt matter
but the early game is where the struggle is
losing two cards to draw one, gitrog only breaks even when you draw two
acoustic wren
im trying to think of other good landfall cards
lotus cobra maybe
ob nixillis the fallen
pale pagoda
if you dont mind the pricey tag
acoustic wren
i have ob nixillis the fallen
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[[lotus field]][[$lotus field]]
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Land
Hexproof
This land enters tapped.
When this land enters, sacrifice two lands.
: Add three mana of any one color.
pale pagoda
[[$lotus cobra]]
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acoustic wren
8.20 isnt so bad
pale pagoda
lol thats not bad? XD
i dont even have a $3 cobra
😭
well, here in Canada everything is also like 1.5x the price
acoustic wren
canadian eh
pale pagoda
for the same reason i stated, i cant bring myself to like [[merciless resolve]]
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pale pagoda
this one draws two but the sac really hurt
i did spell "colour" a couple times instead of color
acoustic wren
most of my family is from quebec lol
pale pagoda
but i noticed your attention wasnt in chat lot of the times
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pale pagoda
low creature count, and its a 5 drop
if it gets lands or have other synergy that would be differernt story
out of the 19 "ramp" only 12 actually ramp
can add [[temple of the false god]] since i gives two mana, but it is awful if you dont have enough it taps for 0
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Land
: Add . Activate only if you control five or more lands.
Those who bring nothing to the temple take nothing away.
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[[blighted woodland]]
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Land
: Add .
, , Sacrifice this land: Search your library for up to two basic land cards, put them onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
pale pagoda
basically myriad landscape in green
add the lotus cobra it ramps
and some of the rampart cards i named above
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Land
This land enters tapped.
: Add one and one-half mana of any one color.
"But . . ."
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pale pagoda
i should add [[city of ass]]
butt was that a joke...
i think you just need the usually ramp
so gitrog comes out early
rampart growth creature is the infamous steve
sakura tribe elder
[[$exploration]] this one is too pricey
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pale pagoda
[[$dryad arbor]]
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[[green sun zenith]] [[dryad arbor]]
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Land Creature — Forest Dryad
(This land isn't a spell, it's affected by summoning sickness, and it has ": Add .")
"Touch no tree, break no branch, and speak only the question you wish answered." —Von Yomm, elder druid, to her initiates
1/1
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Land — Desert
This land enters tapped.
When this land enters, return a land you control to its owner's hand. If another Desert was returned this way, surveil 1. (Look at the top card of your library. You may put it into your graveyard.)
: Add .
pale pagoda
amazing if commander is out, the bounce can also make up for the card advantage from losing too many lands
acoustic wren
should i maybe add [[gaeas blessing]]
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acoustic wren
make it so i never deck myself with self mill
oh and maybe a [[reliquary tower]] or do i want to discard
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Land
You have no maximum hand size.
: Add .
Once guarded by the Knights of the Reliquary, the tower stands now protected only by its own remoteness, its dusty treasures open to plunder by anyone.
acoustic wren
deck has been ordered
pale pagoda
this deck doesnt really self mill, i dont think you will deck out that quick
have you ever played [[cultivator colossus]]
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pale pagoda
i dont think you will get the lands in hand and being a 7 drop get stuck in hand a lot
with gitrog, either want to mill, send lands to gy, or additional land drop ramp it all out.
i cant even get the two lands drop from azusa atm
pale pagoda
cultivator is my first cut, and then azusa may end up going if she continue to not be able to get lands out, since the deck dont have [[crucible of worlds]] its so pricey though
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pale pagoda
i can see putrify and krosan grip getting upgrades but thats about it
mau adjust forest to swamp ratio if the deck has more green than before
acoustic wren
cultivator is my first cut, and then azusa may end up going if she continue to n...
the deck does have crucible of worlds effects
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Enchantment — Room
You may play lands from your graveyard.
(You may cast either half. That door unlocks on the battlefield. As a sorcery, you may pay the mana cost of a locked door to unlock it.)
Forgotten Cellar
Enchantment — Room
When you unlock this door, you may cast spells from your graveyard this turn, and if a card would be put into your graveyard from anywhere this turn, exile it instead.
(You may cast either half. That door unlocks on the battlefield. As a sorcery, you may pay the mana cost of a locked door to unlock it.)
acoustic wren
[[ramunap excavato]]
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acoustic wren
and uh [[conduit of worlds]]
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Artifact
You may play lands from your graveyard.
: Choose target nonland permanent card in your graveyard. If you haven't cast a spell this turn, you may cast that card. If you do, you can't cast additional spells this turn. Activate only as a sorcery.
pale pagoda
the deck does have crucible of worlds effects
ik, just missing that laast most expensive card
i was the one who told you about the conduit version lol