First of all what's your budget, second of all I don't really think this is a bracket 4 commander
#Zurgo Stormrender (bracket 4 brew)
clever cypress
By himself
I mean you can turn the deck into bracket 4 but it'll be more let's say sophisticated than usual
But ye you definitely missed out on rituals
naive dune
I mean you can turn the deck into bracket 4 but it'll be more let's say sophisti...
I would like to make him as close to possilbe to CEDH as possible
My budget is unlimited but I wont use reserve list cards aside from wheel of fortune
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[[Dark ritual]] [[mana geyser]] stuff like that you know?
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Instant
Add 
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Sorcery
Add 
for each tapped land your opponents control.
The Quicksilver Sea hissed and bubbled at the indignity. The Vulshok shaman just smiled.
clever cypress
My budget is unlimited but I wont use reserve list cards aside from wheel of for...
Reserve list?
naive dune
Whats the purpose of those in a token deck thought?
Like alpha and beta cards, mox daimond, dual lands ect
clever cypress
Fast mana?
clever cypress
Like alpha and beta cards, mox daimond, dual lands ect
Oh those are banned
clever cypress
Whats the purpose of those in a token deck thought?
I mean if you struggle to take off means that you need some impulse and fast mana is that impulse
Just let me ask you do you know how engines work?
Like the ones on fuel
Well they need ignition
Wouldn't it be nice to able to cast anointed procession turn 1?
naive dune
I do know, I've been playing for a while. I just am not familiar with aristocrats archetypes and am looking for suggestions in that department
clever cypress
For example
naive dune
Im struggling more so for consistency rather than a turn 1 win
clever cypress
I do know, I've been playing for a while. I just am not familiar with aristocrat...
Ok but just saying if you want to turn you deck to another lvl (which you stated you want to ) fast mana is very important
naive dune
of course, if you can think where to cut I 'd be happy to try it out
clever cypress
Im struggling more so for consistency rather than a turn 1 win
Also fast mana doesn't equal turn 1 win
naive dune
I just dont know where to start, what is neccessary, what is cuttable
clever cypress
of course, if you can think where to cut I 'd be happy to try it out
Sure
naive dune
I play the deck, its gets the commander out makes a few tokens then falls flat
clever cypress
Just one thing I might be replying inaugural bc I am also working rn
clever cypress
I play the deck, its gets the commander out makes a few tokens then falls flat
Sure will tune your deck up I have experience with brewing (back then) power level 8 aristocrat's
naive dune
I'd love to see your take on it. Just wnna play the commander and not be completly stomped as soon as i try to deal damage
as is the nature of the archetype i feel
clever cypress
Just one thing I might be replying inaugural bc I am also working rn
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So your first blunder is not running [[bitterblossom]]
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Also [[teysa Orzhov scion]] is a must have
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[[Ashnod's altar]]
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Artifact
Sacrifice a creature: Add 
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"If you work at sawing up carcasses, you notice how the joints fit, how the nerves are arrayed, and how the skin peels back." —Ashnod, to Tawnos
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[[Call the coppercoats]]
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Strive — This spell costs 
more to cast for each target beyond the first.
Choose any number of target opponents. Create X 1/1 white Human Soldier creature tokens, where X is the number of creatures those opponents control.
When the alarm crystals flash, Drannith's finest answer the call.
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[[Junji]]
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[[Atsuhi]]
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[[Astushi]]
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[[Ao]]
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[[Ao dawn]]
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[[Atushi]]
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[[Atsushi]]
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Sorcery
Sacrifice any number of permanents you control, then draw that many cards.
Plot (You may pay and exile this card from your hand. Cast it as a sorcery on a later turn without paying its mana cost. Plot only as a sorcery.)
Akul saw his Hellspur followers as little more than ammunition to be expended.
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[[Yawgmoth's will]]
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[[Phyrexian arena ]]
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I am used to more [[teysa karlov]] decks
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And here we have red as well
So I'll do some scryfalling
Maybe I'll even call a friend
Here to help
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[[Infernal pludge]] [[jeska's will]]
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Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast this spell, sacrifice a creature.
Add .
"Oh mighty Griselbrand, Scourge of the Heedless World, gladly I consume myself for thee!"
Sorcery
Choose one. If you control a commander as you cast this spell, you may choose both instead.
• Add for each card in target opponent's hand.
• Exile the top three cards of your library. You may play them this turn.
"Gather your strength. Prepare yourself." —Jeska, to Radha
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@normal cairn
normal cairn
I would like to make him as close to possilbe to CEDH as possible
if thats your goal then you're missing either combos or stax pieces, maybe both.
naive dune
if thats your goal then you're missing either combos or stax pieces, maybe both.
I think it's a Zurgo issue at this point. I think I'm going to fully reassess the deck and maybe just make a token go wide deck. Zurgo is an alternative draw engine not necessarily my win condition
normal cairn
I think it's a Zurgo issue at this point. I think I'm going to fully reassess th...
not really
zurgo by itself is infinite combats with [[breath of fury]] and another creature for example
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normal cairn
if you want to play bracket 4 you either need to slow down the table or play at their speed
naive dune
Yea. I understand. But I really want to avoid slowing the table. That is a good one but you'd have to have a token survive each combat and even then you'd need at least one other card thay survives to go wide enough. Unless I'm misunderstanding the card
normal cairn
Yea. I understand. But I really want to avoid slowing the table. That is a good ...
you just need to be able to connect with someone. enchant any creature other than zurgo (or any creature that makes a token when attacks), swing with it and the token on the open player. breath triggers, sacrifices the thing its attached to and you attach it to the token. now you repeat the process with every token produced by zurgo until they die.
clever cypress
Yea. I understand. But I really want to avoid slowing the table. That is a good ...
Also there's [[flawless manvouer]] that you could exploit offensively in such a scenario
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clever cypress
[[Flawless maneuver]]
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