#Balan tuning

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thorny yew
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@livid wraith

livid wraith
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ty

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so i’m going to give you a big list of cuts and you can narrow from there

thorny yew
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Ok

livid wraith
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karmic justice
might of the ancestors
sting (unless i’m missing a synergy piece)
pre war formalwear (only 9 targets)
mirror shield
cloak of the bat
barrow blade
take up the shield
return to dust
condemn
ravnica at war
keeper of the accord is meh

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keep in mind some of these are ok

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i just think there’s better

thorny yew
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Sting + Loran of the third path/ stonehwere giant

livid wraith
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i make suggestions not

thorny yew
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Np

livid wraith
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i suppose its fine, when you get to pricier upgrades it’ll have more synergies

thorny yew
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Yea

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Sooo what are the suggestions?

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:>

livid wraith
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excalibur
monumental henge
loxodon warhammer
basilisks collar
sigardas aid
sword of the animist
stoneforge mystic
knight of the white orchid
leonin abunas
relic seeker
silent arbiter
land tax
dispatch
single combat
brilliant restoration
farewell
secret rendezvous
argentum armor
mask of memory
bilbos ring
rogues gloves
inquisitors flail
conquerers flail
mantle of the ancient
all that glitters
sword forge frontier
arcane signet
mangara the diplomat
archivist of oghma
out of budget but mono white is a miserable color (my favorite color too) esper sentinel

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by priority

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land tax, arcane signet, mantle, all that glitters, sigardas aid, mask of memory, bilbos ring, argentim armor are some of the cheaper ones (besides sigardas) id add asap

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sigardas aid especially lets you be real nasty and flash in stuff and kinda just pop opponents

thorny yew
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@-@

livid wraith
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lmao

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main priority imo

thorny yew
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Rule out sigardia’s aid

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Can’t find one

livid wraith
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ah ok

thorny yew
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Lmao just removed basilisk collar for caduceus

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Xd

livid wraith
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but the main priority is that you can protect balance and draw cards while you’re at it. You can run some poopy equipments (hugh equip) because you equip all at once, and your problem will be in knocking out the 2nd and 3rd person

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think you should run both

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caduceus is incredible thouhj

thorny yew
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Yea

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Cuz rn I often ran into a situation where she gets equipment, but it doesnt buff her stats

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So Im trying to avoid that

livid wraith
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excalibur from ac is very good for the very obvious reason that it pops someone immediately

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yes, thats why stuff like argentum armor, glitters, and mantle are good

thorny yew
livid wraith
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those are your stat balls that put you at the oneshot unblocked threshold

thorny yew
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Ye

livid wraith
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likely you’ll have at least enough to threaten a two shot

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[[loxodon warhammer]]

obtuse tideBOT
livid wraith
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also good for that reason

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btw just speaking from experience

thorny yew
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Had that

livid wraith
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land tax is amazing and worth the $

thorny yew
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Removed it long ago @-@

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Land tax, Im considering

livid wraith
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hmm

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whats ur meta like?

thorny yew
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Aggro

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Heh

livid wraith
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so is the problem tall creatures or a lot of creatures mostly

thorny yew
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Oh yea almost forgot

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Gonna add assault suit soon replacing grafted exoskeleton

livid wraith
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[[assault suit]]

obtuse tideBOT
livid wraith
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ah this is a fun one

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btw also synergizes with mask of memory effects bc u draw the cards

thorny yew
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Why let myself doo all the work while my opponents can do it for me

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Heh

livid wraith
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yeah its a neat card fs

thorny yew
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I see

thorny yew
livid wraith
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a other thing i noticed is that youre pretty light on bwipes

thorny yew
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I put like a lot of sources of vigilance to bypass the no blockers

livid wraith
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you could try to run a bit more indestructible effects and run normal wipes or do those weird voltron ones

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also silent arbiter

livid wraith
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kinda depends how much of ur pod is also commander damaging you tho

thorny yew
thorny yew
livid wraith
thorny yew
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I cant block flyers

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.>

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One day ago I just realised i barely got any way to block creatures with flying

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I mean yea I can gain life when i attack but when all 3 players gank on me It’s really not enough

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@livid wraith

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And whilst I’m thinking of adding ways to prevent that I thought might as well do a small overhaul to the deck

livid wraith
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i think the best course of action would be upping board wipes or silent arbiter effects

thorny yew
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How about

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[[Crawlspace]]?

obtuse tideBOT
thorny yew
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Been eyeing it cuz silent arbiter’s a bit hard to come by in my region

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[[Silent arbiter]]

obtuse tideBOT
thorny yew
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Hmm

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That fella’s pretty nice too

livid wraith
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btw

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[[sword of forge and frontier]]

obtuse tideBOT
livid wraith
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ik u called it ass w/ @mental valley but this one is nutty with double strike

thorny yew
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Yes

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But i have no way to cast them again if I don’t have the mana

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@-@

livid wraith
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yes its more for next turn

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even then

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2 manas not rlly that much

thorny yew
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If the exiled cards are castable until the end of my next turn then yea I’ll have it in balan

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But I don’t wanna risk exiling something amazing yet i don’t have the mana to cast it rlly @-@

livid wraith
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trust

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its the mill effect

thorny yew
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I’ll consider it

livid wraith
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they might as well have been the bottom 50 cards you never will see

thorny yew
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I’ll consider it .-.

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So

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What about the flyer situation

livid wraith
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tbh unless you can find incidental reach

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I think you just target the flier player first and kill them asap lol

thorny yew
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I need like at least 1 more source where I can make balan fly at least, cuz whenever they see balan has lifelink they either remove it or let the opponent with menace or flying hit me repeatedly

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Or

livid wraith
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hmm

thorny yew
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They all gank on me repeatedly

livid wraith
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how good r u at politics/are there combo players at ur pods?

thorny yew
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I’m decent at politics but they always go back on their word

livid wraith
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I play a lot of creature decks and typically I get by because the midrange decks need me to kill the control and combo players

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oh thats kinda nasty of em

thorny yew
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And when I try to get back at them, the other two players protect them

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It’s mildly annoying to say the least

livid wraith
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hmmm

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i mean if this is a common problem you could run some teferis pro everybody lives

thorny yew
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Lol

livid wraith
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but unfortunatelt the curse of white means that these cards are super expensive lol

thorny yew
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Ye .-.

livid wraith
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yeah i’ve been posting mostly white and teferis pro price still irks me enough that I havent bought one

thorny yew
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I thought of a dumb combo, using that one equipment with imprint and imprint tef’s protection,
Balan deals dmg and tef’s p gets cast repeatedly

livid wraith
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oh you know what

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theres an equipment that says you cant lose the game

thorny yew
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Kirin?

livid wraith
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think so?

thorny yew
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Only pray my opponents don’t run removal @-@

livid wraith
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i meaaan

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theres a good 2-5 effects that give your artifacts hexproof

thorny yew
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There is

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I just got rebbecc

livid wraith
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or you could run stuff that protects permenants

thorny yew
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I just got rebbec that grants artifacts protection from spells that share the same cmc as the artifacts I have in control

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Hmmmm

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Curiously asking why sword of the animist? I already have bitterthorn tho?

livid wraith
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its ramp on a stick, plus double strike means 2 lands

thorny yew
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No

livid wraith
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p much you LOVE cmbt dmg triggers because youll typically get them twice

thorny yew
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It’s an attack trigger

livid wraith
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fr

thorny yew
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Not dmg trigger

livid wraith
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[[sword of the animist]]

obtuse tideBOT
livid wraith
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damn u right mb

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depends on ur ramp pkg then

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not sure what thats at rn

thorny yew
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Highest mana is 5

livid wraith
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no i mean like

thorny yew
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My mana curve is low

livid wraith
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ramp #

thorny yew
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Uhhhh

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Actually noneexistent

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Aside from mana rocks & keeper of the accord & bitterthorn

livid wraith
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ok so

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the way i see it

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is you want ur ramp pkg to be at 2 and under ideally

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just bc inevitably balan will die before you save her life

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but you want to be able to curve it

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that’s why i love stuff like land tax too

thorny yew
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I see

livid wraith
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its a 1 drop, stuff like knight of the white is 2, sword of the animist 2 arcane signer 2

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it’s just so you can cast multiple spells per turn

thorny yew
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Guess I’ll invest in land tax

livid wraith
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or spell plus activate balan

thorny yew
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Animist needs to be equipped to a creatures to function

livid wraith
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yeap that one’s just moreso that you like having stuff attached to a sword

mental valley
thorny yew
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Bitterthorn doesn’t need that, cuz it’s one by itself when etb

livid wraith
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yeah bittethorn is better imo but I think of it more as redundancy

thorny yew
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I see

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@-@

thorny yew
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[[$Excalibur]]

obtuse tideBOT
livid wraith
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honestly surprised this one didnt hit $20

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its like one of 4 good cards in the set lol

thorny yew
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Ye

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I’m glad

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I think I’ll replace tarrian soulcleaver with excalibur

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I’ll put soul cleaver in a different deck i guess :p

livid wraith
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[[tarrian soulcleaver]]

obtuse tideBOT
livid wraith
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yeah its better in edict type things

tardy sierra
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I know that by definition this is voltron, but supplementing it with [[Kemba ka regent]]

obtuse tideBOT
tardy sierra
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Isn't a bad idea to go pseudo wide

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you were mentioning about flying protection. It's a simple weapon, but I thought [[Hunter's Blowgun]] is pretty nice.

obtuse tideBOT
tardy sierra
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[[Snubborn]]

obtuse tideBOT
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No card found for “Snubborn”

tardy sierra
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[[Harnessed Snubhorn]] for recursion