#Deck Brewing General

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dusk dagger
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With all the Sets announced, the Secret Lairs released and just a fuck ton of product coming up it took a few days for me to see Squall, Gunblade Duelist

For RWB he's a 3/2 Firststrike that reads

As Squall enters choose a number
Whenever one or more creatures attack one of your opponents, if any of those creatures have power or toughness equal to the chosen number, Squall deals damage equal to its power to defending player.

So obviously we goad all of our opponents creatures, right? So they extra murder each other cause we pump Squall and now the defending player needs not only to block, they get blasted from Squall as well!

Easier said than done though. My thoughts resolved around blinking Squall to reset the number if needed, which also synergises with [[Kardur Doomscourge]] - blinking him with say [[Teleportation Circle]] every wnd step keeps us safe and kills the table.

I know that Goad Decks can be tough to build though and I don’t have that nich experience in Mardu so I'm asking you to pitch in!

Here I have a, rough, list of all the cards I thought of and I'm sure I'm missing a bunch so feel free to pitch in!

Goad to Victory

What goad support do we need? Which number should we set Squall the most to? 3 - 5 probably.

Should we also attack with big creatures and extra combats or is that another way to build him?

I'm looking forward to your suggestions and see you around!

Right before your eyes, the opening movie of #FF8 comes alive once again! #MTGxFINALFANTASY

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cunning heart
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how many legendary card u want to make [[day of destiny]] worth it?

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wooden breach
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On average you have like 30-35 creatures in a commander deck. I would suggest to make day of destiny worth it you should at least have half your creatures be legendary

cunning heart
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the commanders is [[shadowfax]]

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cunning heart
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also what you think of this card for shadowfax?

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in a legendary matter deck

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it is also a legendary matter since there are some decnet legendary creatures payoff

wooden breach
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It's a legend matters deck

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Shadowfax can enter and attack the same turn, triggering Dagger twice

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You'd be crazy to not run it

cunning heart
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is [[aerith gainsborough]] worth it in the deck?

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cunning heart
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i have a lifegain theme as well

wooden breach
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How many themes do you have

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With enough lifegain Aerith is also a no brainer

cunning heart
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go wide,extra combat,lifegain,legendaries

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it is an aggro deck that abuse legendary synergies

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and uses lifegain both to survive more and get synergies with like [[ocelot pride]] [[crested sunmare]]

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Creature — Cat
First strike, lifelink
Ascend (If you control ten or more permanents, you get the city's blessing for the rest of the game.)
At the beginning of your end step, if you gained life this turn, create a 1/1 white Cat creature token. Then if you have the city's blessing, for each token you control that entered this turn, create a token that's a copy of it.
1/1

tame fossil
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despite all the memes about it
how "worth it" is it to pick up a Rhystic Study?

I got a few decks it could go in by color (Ureni dragons, Tidus Counters, and Y'shtola precon)
but even then I'm not sure it'd go well in Ureni, Tidus is still in-progress, and Y'shtola hasn't been tested yet, so I don't want to risk more changes to it.

wooden breach
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How "worth it" it is really depends on what you're going for. The higher the bracket, the more you want it because it's a powerful card with a powerful effect. I'd recommend it if the goal is high power, but as with all commander staples, don't feel like you HAVE to add it in if it's not a good fit or if you don't want your deck to be super powerful

dark void
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If ur still in the upgrading precons phase I probably wouldnt pick it up, but its nice to own one

cunning heart
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id anybody free to discuss in dms the deck ideas im having , i want someone who listen and two cents from them

young phoenix
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since its boros (the known weakness in card advantage?) if i dont have a consistent way of card draw, i would definitely go into the 30+ range

young phoenix
# tame fossil despite all the memes about it how "worth it" is it to pick up a Rhystic Study? ...

if you play at B2 exclusively, GCs are just a banned list with extra steps. if you need a GC in higher power, its usually one of the first go-to-cards after tPro and cycRift. i dont play that power, dont like premium/ expensive $ cards, dont like the salt/taking advantage of a mechanical design mistake, dont like manau ; its a card i will basically never put in my own decks

Power wise, it is basically guaranteed

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kinda skipped out on smoothering tithe but i gave my point
additional note. if you plan on playing the game for like ... ever or rest of your life, it is probably the best investment into those cards that are expensive but somewhat "reasonably" price due to their power level. reserve list is kinda the exception for price = power correlation

young phoenix
tame fossil
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Rhystic is one card that I've always looked at and said "I'll get it eventually"
now is just as good a time as any, I suppose, and it does tend to keep its value

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I think I'll try and squeeze it in my Tidus deck, it'd probably be easier since it's still an "in progress" deck
versus Y'shtola, which I still need to practice with as it's outside of my usual playstyle

cunning heart
dusk dagger
young phoenix
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[[koskun falls]] bad ghostly prison

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young phoenix
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😅

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but mardu has white already

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is it a theme thing

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may have to cut a few instants dispite the high focus in interactions

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i think the goad is going to stop lot of the problematic creatures, so having less creature removal will be fine

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very few targets for your own [[saw in half]]

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young phoenix
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mostly legendary creatures

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if nothing ever connects, [[no mercy]] is doing the same thing as pillowfort prison eff

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young phoenix
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can tone down on some goading effect, not sure if i would cut [[popular entertainer]] or something else

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Legendary Enchantment — Background
Commander creatures you own have "Whenever one or more creatures you control deal combat damage to a player, goad target creature that player controls." (Until your next turn, that creature attacks each combat if able and attacks a player other than you if able.)
The last thing anyone would describe you as is shy. You love the spotlight, and it loves you back.

young phoenix
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[[besmirch]] isnt too appealing in terms of goading but i do like the part where it is doing something slightly different in the deck; jack of all trade flexible

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young phoenix
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not a cut but karazikar the eye tyrant worry me on lfie total

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i think prison maybe redundant too since the entire deck is goading

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normally, it "doing nothing" means it is doing good. in this case, it doing nothing is because it cant do anything. if the extra back up is needed, feel free to keep it

hushed vale
young phoenix
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not too sure if i see the connection between the commander and the deck but it is a sac outlet alright

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cool stuff

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my is golgari garbage with [[glissa the traitor]] every death is a draw from the grave, one of my few B3 decks

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young phoenix
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but i only do [[final parting]] and some land tutors so i dont really know what are your tutor targets

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young phoenix
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best boardwipe [[all is dust]]

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north glen
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I need to figure out a card that could fit with oil

young phoenix
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you need water or fire

woeful lark
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https://archidekt.com/decks/16432289/phyrexian_scraps
I mostly play Commander, but like to keep a couple 60 card decks on me just in case. This is my first fully built from scratch deck, and I am looking to get an idea of 'power level' to know if it's something fine to bring to friendly Magic tables. Any input is appreciated as well. Always looking to power up!

Archidekt

Legacy deck

(5) Creature • (1) Discard • (1) Draw • (2) Evasion • (7) Infect • (20) Land • (9) Proliferate • (3) Protection • (1) Ramp • (5) Removal • (1) Stax • (5) Tokens
The win con... POISON COUNTERS! :)

This is a deck that I threw together from random scraps of my Phyrexia, All Will Be One bulk, so... it's not the...

young phoenix
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• (20) Land • 👀 should that be a concern

woeful lark
young phoenix
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tbh i havent even click into the deck yet, i am heading to sleep lol 💤

sand oracle
cunning heart
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trying to look for an aggro go wide deck who can cheat out big creatures

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also i like extra combat stuff in there

young phoenix
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if its extra combat, make be stuck in red, my favourite got to be [[the master muliplied]]

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tribal matrix
dusk dagger
young phoenix
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i saw a few jaws in the deck lists, some has more synergy than others. havent saw too many pumping it to the max shark ones

tribal matrix
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https://archidekt.com/decks/16473051

wanna do an Imoen Arcane Trickster deck drawing cards and doing dungeon delving. the goal being to draw a ton of cards and make some evasive tokens or big boys to kill folks with. would love some suggestions on good cards for it.

Archidekt

Dungeon Delver & Imoen, Mystic Trickster - Commander deck

(2) Commander • (4) Blink • (1) Burn • (4) Copy • (2) Creature • (10) Draw • (4) Evasion • (36) Land • (4) Protection • (7) Ramp • (1) Recursion • (20) Removal • (5) Tokens

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its a silly deck so nothing further than 3 is fine

sand oracle
young phoenix
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[[extruder]]

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Artifact Creature — Juggernaut
Echo mana4 (At the beginning of your upkeep, if this came under your control since the beginning of your last upkeep, sacrifice it unless you pay its echo cost.)
Sacrifice an artifact: Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.
As the invasion drew closer, Urza's means began to resemble Phyrexia's end.
4/3

dusk dagger
# young phoenix [[extruder]]

That's also really good with [[Ojer Axonil]] - sac another artifact in response to the triggers, buff Ojer and kills everyone in a fell swoop

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Legendary Creature — God
Trample
If a red source you control would deal an amount of noncombat damage less than Ojer Axonil's power to an opponent, that source deals damage equal to Ojer Axonil's power instead.
When Ojer Axonil dies, return it to the battlefield tapped and transformed under its owner's control.
4/4

Temple of Power
Land
(Transforms from Ojer Axonil, Deepest Might.)
manat: Add manar.
mana2manar, manat: Transform this land. Activate only if red sources you controlled dealt 4 or more noncombat damage this turn and only as a sorcery.
Chimil gave the Oltec passion. Ojer Axonil challenged them to harness it.

young phoenix
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🤔 i didnt do the math how many artifact will win

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other than the first 1 is too late to see the +1 counter, X+1 will all see the max damage

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so 5 artifact sac will give 4* more power to axonil, last sac will be one damage lower. 4 x8 +9=32 + 9 = 41 damage; fixed

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but every artifact will have incremental increase

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X = artifact sac
(X-1) * 4 axon's power * X = total burn~~

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X^2+4X-4 +(X-1) = X^2 +5X-5 if i did the math in my head right

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nope something is off

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did the 5-6 cut help for the goading deck?

olive trench
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I am considering building [[hogaak]], but I am not sure if I want to go big graveyard, aristocrats or "leaves the graveyard based" deck. There is a lot of overlap, but the key cards are different.

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sand oracle
olive trench
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young phoenix
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some form of sell mill but probably will be less consistent to fill the grave each turn

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and like spacedog said, need a board to convoke that (minimal) 2 mana, ideally it is convoke the entire cost. things that spread is always need [[endrek master breeder]] but it somewhat shows that you cant play the commander early on

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young phoenix
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[[revenge of the rats]] i ve trying with little success since the tokens enters tapped, even with [[enter the tomb]] it just need a lot of creatures in the 99 to do well

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No card found for “enter the tomb”

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No card found for “into the tomb”

young phoenix
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🤦 [[out of the tombs]]

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young phoenix
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subtheme will fall into going wide winnies so [[beast ascension]] would be the easy way out in case commander fails

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young phoenix
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maybe you will find web slinging support cards to with tapping down creatures

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resources out/in grave, reused that resource would probably be the core of hogaak. i find it to be slightly more unique if it is hiding in the 99 as a secret commander

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can mutate ontop of it and turn it into a commander for example, or use a self mill grave based engine to support the plan

sand oracle
# olive trench Yeah [[altar of dementia]] has gotten really expensive these days and I do'nt re...

This is probably a very biased answer, but have you thought about slime against humanity as a base for the commander? It doesn't matter if you exile the spells for convoke.

But I would only seriously entertain the idea if there were some way to abuse the creatures with plus one plus one counters for your commander.

Like, the very first thing that comes to mind is the ozilith. You could move the counters through a couple of different cards that have that kind of effect from your oozes to your commander, trying to get into one giant disgusting Voltron. And the oozes themselves might be threatening. I would definitely look and see if this strategy has been done by other players and try to gleam information from them.

I'm mostly on a slime against humanity kick with flubs right now 😂

young phoenix
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i like that idea, maybe you can use your flubs missed card in that build

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and i have a few green jank that makes tokens

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and stupids ways to move power toughness around

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[[savage summoning]] to sneak in hogaak out of nowhere

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young phoenix
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or the standard haste boot since tapping creatures for casting cost means you will always have mana open

undone wolf
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Hello, I need feedback on the deck I built recently. My win con on this deck is to spread poison counters and proliferate:

https://archidekt.com/decks/15015373/pallida_mors

Here is what I feel are missing:

  1. Ramp for blue spells
  2. Lacks creatures with infect. I have some toxic creatures in my binder but I am not sure what to remove to put them in. Below are the creatures I have:
  • Bilious Skudweller
  • Blightbelly Rat
  • Venser, Corpse Puppet

I also have the following for proliferation:

  • Contentious Plan
  • Serum Snare
  • Strionic Resonator (This allows me to trigger my proliferate cards)

Also, I don't have these but I plan to add these:

  • Tekuthal, Inquiry Dominus
  • Dreamtide Whale

Thank you for providing feedback, I am open to any as long as it's relevant. I apoligize if I will respond to feedback, my purpose is to challenge the feedback not to disregard, but to check for it's viability.

Archidekt

Jon Irenicus, Shattered One - Commander deck
Control • Infect
(1) Commander • (1) Counters • (1) Drain • (7) Draw • (1) Evasion • (9) Infect • (34) Land • (1) Mill • (3) Proliferate • (6) Protection • (10) Ramp • (6) Recursion • (12) Removal • (2) Stax • (6) Tutor

shrewd zinc
tribal matrix
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https://archidekt.com/decks/16141372/teval_reanimator

I think this is as efficient as I can make Teval. the finishers being either lord of extinction > Jarad Lich lord blast the board end game, or sacrifice zombies to Altar of Dimentia, theres one infinite combo in it with Gravecrawler but im thinking of getting rid of him for Sylvan Safekeeper to keep it at bracket 3, would also like any suggestions on what i could pull for [[Beastmaster Ascension]] to go along with [[Wonder]] for a wide zombie swing. im thinking maybe Gitrog monster? draw is good but he's very expensive and not the only card that lets me play extra lands. or maybe Azusa is another option (feels like a win more).

Archidekt

Teval, the Balanced Scale - Commander deck

(1) Commander • (6) Draw • (1) Evasion • (2) Finisher • (38) Land • (2) Landfall • (9) Mill • (14) Ramp • (12) Recursion • (10) Removal • (2) Sac Outlet • (3) Tutor

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random timber
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a friend has requested me to make a standard deck so play against them and i was wondering if i could get y'alls thoughts on it (it was mainly just made with cards i had on hand)
https://archidekt.com/decks/16579282/batty

Archidekt

Standard deck

(1) Anthem • (2) Artifact • (2) Creature • (5) Drain • (4) Draw • (1) Enchantment • (6) Instant • (20) Land • (9) Lifegain • (1) Protection • (1) Ramp • (3) Recursion • (5) Removal • (2) Sorcery

long kiln
tough urchin
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Is this channel a good place to post your deck and get feedback?

twin flame
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Choco, Seeker of Paradise - Commander deck
+1/+1 Counters • Tokens • Landfall • Birds • Flying
(1) Commander • (2) Anthem • (11) Bird! • (11) Chocobo! • (2) Draw • (10) Is Not Bird • (37) Land • (6) Landfall • (3) Protection • (8) Ramp • (4) Removal • (3) Tokens • (2) Tutor
Framework from Chocobo Blitz Landfal...

long kiln
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Depends on if someone gets interested in your deck

young phoenix
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depends on what it is, you can post directly into my thread for deck help

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mostly for cards analysis because i can only polish a rough work, rather than rebuild the whole thing

tribal matrix
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yeah sometimes i think it just matters if its a new/interesting idea. sometimes i take no response as 'the decks fine'

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though id still love someone to go thru teval with me. as i think im nearly done before i go to buying cards

halcyon maple
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Anyone know any good cards that I could slot in to go with the energy counter theme or replace existing cards?

old turret
tribal matrix
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What cards would be fun in [[emet-selch of the third seat]]

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wooden breach
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[[the final days]]

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wooden breach
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[[teval's judgement]]

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wooden breach
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bunch of instants and sorceries in graveyard so [[candlekeep inspiration]]

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bold rune
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Anyone got a build of [[Wraith, Vicious Vigilante]] I can take a look at? Thinking about building her

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obtuse ivy
bold rune
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I know, was asking if anyone had a list

bold rune
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Update: decided to just build it up using bulk and yeah sometimes all ya need is big bonk

wooden breach
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Double strike and unblockable so yeah this is just Azorius Voltron

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Make power higher than 1 and turn sideways

fickle hornet
deep wedge
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Are you allowed to brew of unreleased cards here

bold rune
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bold rune
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Only ways I can think of for her to pump out even more damage are kinda limited since she doesnt have red. So as far as I know only things she can use for extra damage aside from the standard +/+ stuff are [[Genji Glove]] for an extra combat and [[Inquisitors Flail]] for double damage

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bold rune
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Honestly the most fun part of this deck is just the whole: shes already unblockable, just throw big pumps and Proetctions on her then you're maybe good to go

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Think [[Key to the Vault]] and [[Buster Sword]] kinda shine with her since you're almost guaranteed that damage... TWICE so you get 2 free spells

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past halo
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Hey all,

Just getting into Commander/MTG in general with friends, I'm building from the Zurgo Stormrender Pre-Con and wanted to make something that could potentially win with either the standard token go-wide strat of take advantage of Zurgo's token pings so work as a red focused Aristo deck with Ojer Axonil. I was hoping to get some feedback/ideas from people who actually know what they're doing, as I'm sure there's a dozen more efficient ways to do this. If I should make a dedicated thread for this, or I should put this is the format focus and delete it out of the general channel please let me know, I'm new to the Discord.

https://archidekt.com/decks/16813839/zurgo_aristokenping?stack=multiple

Archidekt

Zurgo Stormrender - Commander deck

(1) Commander • (4) Anthem • (1) Blink • (3) Burn • (1) Copy • (3) Counters • (2) Drain • (4) Draw • (34) Land • (9) Protection • (7) Ramp • (2) Recursion • (9) Removal • (1) Reset • (6) Sac Outlet • (18) Tokens • (2) Tutor

frail canopy
elfin horizon
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i wanna play a bunch of spells in Izzet (or more) in commander but don’t wanna play Vivi. Who are some fun recommendations. Looking to play on strong 2-3 bracket

wise cliff
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Hey is there a good place to help build a brawl deck? I want to try the brawl metagame challenge but arena's UI is rough and moxfield is including cards that are not legal

deep wedge
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Legendary Creature — Otter Wizard
Whenever you cast a spell, if it's the first instant spell, the first sorcery spell, or the first Otter spell other than Alania you've cast this turn, you may have target opponent draw a card. If you do, copy that spell. You may choose new targets for the copy.
"Why would I chase the storm? Does a cloud chase the rain? Does the sun chase the light?"
3/5

wispy atlas
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Hi, I am a stereotypical green player.

75% of my decks have green and all of mine have relatively green strategies.

+1/+1 counters, creature tokens. Big Ramp.

Im trying to break out of my comfort zone and build something less commander and less green.

Any suggestions would be amazing

wooden breach
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What if you were mono-green with +1/+1 counter and tokens BUT in a new and explosive way

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Picture this: Mono-Green Storm with [[aeve progenitor ooze]]

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wooden breach
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You get to be in your comfort color but with the mentality of casting a bunch of spells each turn, not ramping into a few big ones

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From there, you can more easily move into colors that traditionally fit that playstyle, like blue red

trim bridge
grave forum
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Trying to make my first 5-color deck, any suggestions for fun commanders?

sacred yarrow
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Eskia god of the tree, ersta friend to all, jenson carthalion, as well codie the codex, ramos, dragon engine

bold rune
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[[Reforge the soul]]

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bold rune
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[[Wheel of fortune]]

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bold rune
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2 cost more but also has mircale for 2

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And costs alot less to get

lime moth
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Need some more insight with Edgin to push it to Bracket 3 on a budget.

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I feel leaning too hard into Spellslinger / Cast from Exile makes him into a very bad Glass Cannon... in the sense he has nothing else going for him

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[[Edgin Lutenist]]

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Legendary Creature — Human Bard
Each nonland card in your hand without foretell has foretell. Its foretell cost is equal to its mana cost reduced by mana2. (During your turn, you may pay mana2 and exile it from your hand face down. Cast it on a later turn for its foretell cost.)
Whenever you cast your second spell each turn, goad target creature an opponent controls.
3/3

last finch
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Need help figuring out what to cut for a [[Darksteel Plate]]
https://archidekt.com/decks/5398326/welcome_to_the_thrunderdome

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Thrun, Breaker of Silence - Commander deck
Voltron • Auras • Enchantress
(1) Commander • (1) Artifact • (4) Counters • (5) Creature • (12) Draw • (10) Enchantment • (2) Evasion • (1) Instant • (31) Land • (10) Protection • (6) Pump • (10) Ramp • (1) Recursion • (3) Removal • (1) Sorcery • (1) Stax • (1) Unta...

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old turret
gusty mantle
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So this isn't rly deck brewing but its the best spot, so my group for a long time was having a power level grind due to one player who'd only play high power combo decks and basically forced us to play at his speed, but he finally left after someone built a real control deck that he said was "personally targeting him" (which in all honesty it was) so now he left and the group wants to power down a bit so I wanted to ask yall out of these 4 decks if I had to keep only one what would I keep:

-Felothar Defender Aggro

-Kuja Mass burn

-Dogmeat+Cloud Voltron (just fused the 2 precons together and added a bunch of extra)

  • Yuna +1 Counters

These are all cranked out bracket 2s and 3s meant to just beat through the combo in some way, and while I do enjoy all of these, most need to go

sharp olive
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Hello

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I just need some advice building a commander deck using some old mtg cards i own i dont really know where to start

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Could someone dm me please

topaz berry
keen temple
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Are there enough cards (with the Avatar set coming out) to warrant an Experience Counter based [[Azlask, the Swelling Scourge]] deck? I mean with 15 other than the commander it’ll need more stuff than that, but… jamming all 15 into the deck wouldn’t be TERRIBLE, right?

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frigid junco
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Hey guys! Sooooo if i were to say Gargos, Vicious Watcher. Mono green commander. What should I look for. To give me a good wincon... Hydra tribal.

topaz berry
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[[gargos vicious watcher]]

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topaz berry
tulip sundial
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I wanna build a Selesnya deck or an Abzan deck. Any commander suggestions?

winged rivet
sharp olive
topaz berry
old turret
quartz gale
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guys is there a dragon life gain commander deck?

halcyon maple
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halcyon maple
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[[betor, ancestors voice]] would probably also fit as a life gain focused dragon commander

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Spirit Dragon
Flying, lifelink
At the beginning of your end step, put a number of +1/+1 counters on up to one other target creature you control equal to the amount of life you gained this turn. Return up to one target creature card with mana value less than or equal to the amount of life you lost this turn from your graveyard to the battlefield.
3/5

quartz gale
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modern ridge
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Was told to post here 🙂

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I've built that bracket 3 self-mill deck with cards from the World Shaper precon and other cards I had lying around: https://archidekt.com/decks/17142090/space_invaders_against_humanity

When it goes off, it works great. But I often struggle to get it going unless I draw an early icetill explorer/mesmeric orb to fill my graveyard and to get Field of the Dead online. Any change you'd suggest that can help? I'd like to stay true to the space/insect theme - otherwise a Hermit Druid would be an easy way to get my entire deck milled in one go.

Main gameplan is to mill myself and then use Underworld Breach (and shifting woodland if Breach itself gets milled) to win, either in combat or by milling opponents out

Archidekt

Szarel, Genesis Shepherd - Commander deck

(1) Commander • (2) Anthem • (3) Artifact • (3) Counters • (8) Creature • (1) Discard • (3) Draw • (1) Instant • (37) Land • (4) Landfall • (3) Mill • (4) Protection • (1) Pump • (15) Ramp • (6) Recursion • (4) Removal • (3) Sac Outlet • (1) Tokens • (2) Tutor

grim bluff
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[[Fire Lord Azula]] any tips on what to put in the deck to safely attack with her? I feel like my slots for either removal, or draw, or pump/voltron is very limited with this one.

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Human Noble
Firebending 2 (Whenever this creature attacks, add manarmanar. This mana lasts until end of combat.)
Whenever you cast a spell while Fire Lord Azula is attacking, copy that spell. You may choose new targets for the copy. (A copy of a permanent spell becomes a token.)
"I'm sorry it has to end this way, brother."
4/4

proper fiber
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Could consider running cantrips that also give evasion like [[leap]] and [[shadow rift]]
Alternatively, just run more removal spells, which also help create an opening

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proper fiber
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You could also look at your pump spells as a form of removal. if they try and block your commande,r you cast/copy pump spells such that she survives and their thing dies.

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I have a question before I jump into Spelltable and playing online. I have a Vivi deck which I enjoy a lot to play. In general, it'd fall into the B3 category due to the game changer limit and the fact that combos, wheter it's 2 to 3 card, are expensive in mana cost. Obviously if Vivi is left unchecked, things get by quicker, with no interactions or removals being used.

I wanted to know if it'd be too much if I were to play it in B3. The whole list is https://moxfield.com/decks/U4u_wiAej0ydRg1Ptx_5kA

Edit: Qsilver Elemental is now off the deck, just still listed

Hope i used the right thread :D

Also looking for comments on https://moxfield.com/decks/bQtz9FF980abRMi1NRDf8w, if that's ok to play on B2.

elfin horizon
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oh man i played a commander draft tonight where i got [[rilsa rael]] with a bunch of initiative stuff and loved it. kinda wanna build a full dungeon diving commander deck. any other good options for commanders in that?

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strange coral
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I would like to build a [[tovolar, dire overlord]] deck that can compete with most precons nowadays without feeling unfair. Would someone be willing to help?

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Human Werewolf
Whenever a Wolf or Werewolf you control deals combat damage to a player, draw a card.
At the beginning of your upkeep, if you control three or more Wolves and/or Werewolves, it becomes night. Then transform any number of Human Werewolves you control.
Daybound
3/3

Tovolar, the Midnight Scourge
Legendary Creature — Werewolf
Whenever a Wolf or Werewolf you control deals combat damage to a player, draw a card.
manaxmanarmanag: Target Wolf or Werewolf you control gets +X/+0 and gains trample until end of turn.
Nightbound
4/4

frigid junco
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Hello folks. Anyone have a mono red commander suggestion for maybe a spellslinging burn deck?

random timber
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howdy! im planning on making an un-set commander deck built around triggering [[D00-DL, Caricaturist]] as many times as possible, at the moment im thinking of using [[feldon of the third path]] but is there any other commanders you guys think would do the job better (un set ones included)

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gray yoke
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ruby hinge
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Hey fellas, regarding the possible hybrid mana rules change: would it work with activated abilities? Emil + Tivit could be grose af

mental gale
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Hey Yall, I'm trying to cook up a deck with the new earth bending mechanic and mass land destructions, Goal, earth bend all my lands, destroy all lands, profit? Not sure on how i turn that into a win, if its just denying opponents lands or with a huge land ETB threat. I think that i want to use Toph, the first metalbender as my commander but I'm open to alternate opinions..

lethal coral
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Yo I made a deck but I need someone to look over it and help me pick what cards I can remove. Its a spaceship commander deck, message me if your down to help.

gilded cargo
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https://moxfield.com/decks/Yx9gWX9WAkmux7I4DxhHAQ https://moxfield.com/decks/V9hyioyv2kO6XRjoCuCMiA https://moxfield.com/decks/FYyvvYsw9kifgiFSNdgTSQ https://moxfield.com/decks/fJVektSL-kS9WAMryZLOEw I'm a returning magic player who is new to commander and wanted to build my first decks, these are the lists i came up with, ive chosen not to include game changers, and the only deck that utilizes combo is the blue deck (largely because it felt like it didnt have a plan to win without them). I'd love feedback and recommendations on these decks, if there is something im missing id love to know! its likely that im not aware of the interaction it provides, so adding that would help too! cheers!

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soft chasm
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I recently bought the PlayStation secret lairs and i wanted some opinions on a few of the decks. I have them “finished” but wanted some thoughts about what people thought about them

https://archidekt.com/decks/17306564/nathan_drake

https://archidekt.com/decks/17297224/kratos_the_god_of_war

Archidekt

Nathan Drake, Treasure Hunter - Commander deck

(1) Commander • (1) Artifact • (3) Burn • (2) Copy • (4) Creature • (11) Draw • (1) Enchantment • (1) Instant • (40) Land • (1) Protection • (10) Ramp • (2) Recursion • (13) Removal • (1) Sorcery • (9) Theft

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Kratos, God of War - Commander deck

(1) Commander • (12) Burn • (1) Creature • (1) Draw • (1) Enchantment • (5) Evasion • (4) Finisher • (1) Instant • (38) Land • (2) Landfall • (5) Protection • (3) Pump • (10) Ramp • (12) Removal • (3) Stax • (1) Tokens

quaint plover
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33 removal (most of which doubles as burn) is a bit much isn't it?

soft chasm
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Well my thought is that i would probably be targeted alot so i would need to be able to control the board

quaint plover
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I was more asking for my own deckbuilding reference, but it's nice to know someone is thinking similarly

soft chasm
quaint plover
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I'm thinking similarly with my firebending deck
I'm making a version with fire lord azula and with avatar aang, and either way burning up creatures that could have blocked is a very funny and flavourfull way to get combat damage through

soft chasm
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Sounds sick man , go for it

trim bridge
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so, i've had this elsh of the infinite deck, however recently i've been thinking of using kykar, winds fury as the commander for it, could some of you maybe take a look at the decks and suggest which one would be better to run as a commander?
kykar: https://moxfield.com/decks/NpI-MfHfv0O4jvV0doYs3A
elsha: https://moxfield.com/decks/QS-GzUsn1EubTrq4vwNGYw

crude ridge
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Do we post here or make a new forum?

olive trench
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https://archidekt.com/decks/17599340/shelob_spiders_attack

I need more cuts. One of my other kindred decks has 42 creatures but I am not sure how easy it is to get delirium without good numbers of all card types.

Archidekt

Shelob, Child of Ungoliant - Commander deck
Budget • Spiders • Delirium • Deathtouch • Incomplete
(1) Commander • (10) Artifact • (43) Creature • (10) Enchantment • (9) Instant • (1) Planeswalker • (9) Sorcery

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halcyon steeple
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Hi! Just a quick question: do you guys think this card would be good in Karumonix rat tribal deck focused on proliferation and toxic?

trail mason
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im building [[jenova]] and my biggest worry is that i cant dump all those cards quick enough ^^

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faint oasis
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Ok so I find self-mill as an archetype to be very funny conceptually. Who are some good commanders for that?

sick zephyr
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I’m building a self mill group slug with [[The emperor of palamecia]]

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Legendary Creature — Human Noble Wizard
manat: Add manau or manar. Spend this mana only to cast a noncreature spell.
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, if at least four mana was spent to cast it, put a +1/+1 counter on The Emperor of Palamecia. Then if it has three or more +1/+1 counters on it, transform it.
2/2

The Lord Master of Hell
Legendary Creature — Demon Noble Wizard
Starfall — Whenever The Lord Master of Hell attacks, it deals X damage to each opponent, where X is the number of noncreature, nonland cards in your graveyard.
"All the world shall fall by my hand."
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https://manabox.app/decks/AZqRYkOncA61lPoRtb1qSw

can i have some thoughts about my kratos/atreus god tribal deck. It’s technically finish but i don’t trust my deck building skills and for the creatures i mostly threw in what gods i could, shapeshifter and proliferators. Thinking of leaning into the burn sub strategy with ojer axonil, tarulf, surtr keranos atreus. Also wanted to add Katara who gave experience counters since actually managed to get her.

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cunning spoke
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Anyone got any good suggestions for temur or jeskai enchantment

Don’t ask me why but building enchantment decks for each tricolor trio and a five color snd those two are surprisingly the only ones without a good option that actually cares about enchantment

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Technically jund too but yurlok painchantment seemed too fun to pass up

young phoenix
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depends on how janky you go, both has tons of things you can

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but those are in general more niche cards that doesnt go in all strategies

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# cunning spoke Anyone got any good suggestions for temur or jeskai enchantment Don’t ask me wh...

I did [[ninth doctor]] Enchantress deck, with the Courts cycle and upkeep stuff. you can do it in either temur or Jeskai but I went with Jeskai.

https://archidekt.com/decks/5706325/fantastic_enchantments

Archidekt

The Ninth Doctor & Clara Oswald - Commander deck
Enchantments • Tokens • Monarch
(2) Commander • (8) Artifact • (1) Battle • (15) Creature • (33) Enchantment • (2) Instant • (36) Land • (3) Sorcery

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cunning spoke
# olive trench I did [[ninth doctor]] Enchantress deck, with the Courts cycle and upkeep stuff....

Oh that seems nice, might try a temur version then,

For Jeskai i settled for two old ideas i had for arzorius and naya just tacked red onto arzorius and replaced green for blue for the other one

Hinata aura control basically all the aura’s one uses that exiles or changes a permanent

Or

Enchantment monarch with the lotr king guy with a stax subtheme to prevent the peasants from touching the crown

Im pretty sure both ideas will get me kicked out of my play group, the nineth doctor one seems fun especially since can take both ideas this way just make jeskai monarch into temur monarch

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With this i think somehow managed to make 11 distinct enchantment decks
Bant traditional enchantment with a side of opalessence/starfield of nyx beatdown helmed by Tuvasa

Grixis curses with Lynde

Naya aura with preston garvey mixed with eldraine aura tokens

Esper Zur saga transmogrifications mid range aggro

Jund yurlok burnchantment

Sultai tatsunari voltron aura

Mardu ghen recursion enchantment

Abzan narci saga

These two

And Marina Vendrel room’s

strange coral
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I would like to build a [[tovolar, dire overlord]] or [[Eddie Brock]] deck that can compete with most precons nowadays without feeling unfair. Would someone be willing to help?

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Legendary Creature — Human Werewolf
Whenever a Wolf or Werewolf you control deals combat damage to a player, draw a card.
At the beginning of your upkeep, if you control three or more Wolves and/or Werewolves, it becomes night. Then transform any number of Human Werewolves you control.
Daybound
3/3

Tovolar, the Midnight Scourge
Legendary Creature — Werewolf
Whenever a Wolf or Werewolf you control deals combat damage to a player, draw a card.
manaxmanarmanag: Target Wolf or Werewolf you control gets +X/+0 and gains trample until end of turn.
Nightbound
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Legendary Creature — Human Hero Villain
When Eddie Brock enters, return target creature card with mana value 1 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield.
mana3manabmanarmanag: Transform Eddie Brock. Activate only as a sorcery.
"I've got the nose for the story. He's got the hunger for the kill. Together..."
3/3

Venom, Lethal Protector mana3manabmanarmanag
Legendary Creature — Symbiote Hero Villain
Menace, trample, haste
Whenever Venom attacks, you may sacrifice another creature. If you do, draw X cards, then you may put a permanent card with mana value X or less from your hand onto the battlefield, where X is the sacrificed creature's mana value.
"... we are Venom!"
5/5

feral sapphire
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I love this card [[Dragon Broodmother]] but i have no clue what kind of deck to put it in. Ideas?

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faint oasis
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Do you all have any recommendations for fun deck archetypes whose game plan is based on doing something that is normally a terrible move?

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I have a self-mill deck, but I just think that tactics that either win you the game or totally fuck you over are funny

chilly wind
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Is [[Goldspan dragon]] a good clone target for [[Satya]] decks?

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Legendary Creature — Human Artificer
Menace, haste
Whenever Satya attacks, create a tapped and attacking token that's a copy of up to one other target nontoken creature you control. You get manaemanae (two energy counters). At the beginning of the next end step, sacrifice that token unless you pay an amount of manae equal to its mana value.
3/5

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frigid plover
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haven't put much thought into it, but I'm considering plant kindrid Necrobloom that intentionally keeps itself under 7 lands? is that anything?

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I was just looking at Necrobloom and thought "day of the triffids" and now I'm doing this I guess.

frigid plover
frigid plover
# faint oasis What is it?

I was just saying, I'm thinking about building plant kindrid necrobloom that intentionally keeps it'self at 6 or lower land

sharp olive
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Hello i could do with some advice on the abzan armour pre con

round hatch
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What should I cut

rich yew
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rich yew
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Enter the infinite is 12 mana draw 3? 7? Better options with fewer pips. Wizard's spells are pure flavor, but funny

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Will look

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One counterspell, Baral has little value.
How is it you want to win? I don't know if you have enough for a Jace win. Lier is good if you aren't interested in using counterspells

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I would try to focus on either wizards or spellslinging

rich yew
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This is really tricky cause most wizards care about noncreature spells, but Jodah only cares about legendaries.

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All depends on what you want strength and theme-wise.

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Will check later. Can help, but we need more details I think. Playgroup stuff. Usually Jodah doesn't live long on the battlefield

rich yew
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No card found for “Mr Negative”

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[[Mister neg]]

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round hatch
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I think I can drop kefka court mage

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Like 8 mana transformation is expensive

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rich yew
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Most people play Kefka for his front side. It's a lot of card advantage

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I would cut Stenn. You have too even a split of i/s/a/e to make him worth keeping.

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Generally cost reduction is only better than mana production if you expect to use it more than once a turn.

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Wizard's spell book is pretty bad. You can keep it if you want to, but it is bad. [[Forger's foun]]

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rich yew
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This also isn't a great card tbh

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You do get cast triggers-which is neat

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Have you played this deck yet? Looks fun

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Transcendent message may be too much for a non-legendary spell, it's a big ask for what little protection you have.

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Can be good if you have draw synergies

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halcyon maple
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Vadrik, astral archmage would give you a good cost reduction with a few +1/+1 counters on him. Though realistically Magnus the red gives the best combat payoff consistently while also providing passive benefits to spell slinging.

proper fiber
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Bria's also a solid choice imo

rich yew
# round hatch Thanks for the feedback, wizard spellbook is flavorful but 7 mana is way to expe...

I'm guessing you mean combat tricks on each player's turn.
🟠Vivi is great but largely hated on. Also main focus on storming off on your turn-maybe not what you want.
🔴EoP is really awesome-but probably best as a self-mill and not a ss deck
🟡Bria could be good! I'm not familiar with prowess and her last ability is before your declare blockers step only, but I can see you holding mana to pump up blockers
🟠Magnus looks more like a big splashy main phase spells and i/s that make token creatures deck than a combat-driven one. You can put a couple evasion cantrips in, but making dudes other ways seems better to me
🟢Najal if you want to focus on your own combat but keep it flexible. Maybe less powerful, but probably fits what you want
🟢With Vadric you can force day/night cycles with instants and get some big value x spells
🔵gotta know the bg, but could be good :v

lime moth
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Anyone got tips for good game-enders for [[Ninth Doctor]] + [[Rose Tyler]]?

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unique stirrup
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I saw the new commader [[Nathan Drake, Treasure Hunter]] , i nede to ask , it is better them [[Don Andres, the Renegade]] I want to make a theft deck but I never build one before

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Legendary Creature — Human Rogue
First strike
You may spend mana as though it were mana of any color to cast spells you don't own or to activate abilities of permanents you control but don't own.
Whenever Nathan Drake attacks, exile the top card of each player's library. You may cast a spell from among those cards.
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Legendary Creature — Vampire Pirate
Each creature you control but don't own gets +2/+2, has menace and deathtouch, and is a Pirate in addition to its other types.
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell you don't own, create two tapped Treasure tokens.
"Why climb the tangled rigging of the Legion of Dusk's hierarchy when I can fly a free flag of my own?"
4/3

unique stirrup
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I saw [[Locke, Treasure Hunter]] too, He miss one colors but gave a tresure almost every time he attacks

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mental ice
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And I'm biased because he isn't Universes Beyond

unique stirrup
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Ah , i see , ty

lime moth
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[[Ian Malcolm]]

rare escarpBOT
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Multiple cards match “Ian Malcolm”, can you be more specific?

lime moth
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[[Ian Malcolm, Chaotician]]

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Legendary Creature — Human Scientist
Whenever a player draws their second card each turn, that player exiles the top card of their library.
During each player's turn, that player may cast a spell from among the cards they don't own exiled with Ian Malcolm, and mana of any type can be spent to cast it.
"You've heard of chaos theory?"
2/2

faint oasis
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How is [[Urianger Augurelt]] as a commander?

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faint oasis
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I’m making proxy cards of the player characters in my DnD campaign, and Urianger fits one character decently well.

loud verge
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As someone who doesn't play the Izzet storm theme, would Ian Malcom be a good alternate for that color pair?

tribal matrix
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https://archidekt.com/decks/18119576

Made a Hidetsugu and Kairi deck. wanted to play some explosive Dimir bombs. didn't want to build it for combo, the intent is to just play huge value cards for free with H&Kand cobble together a win via one two punches but would still love some suggestions, especially underplayed but expensive Black/Blue spells or any spells that sacrifice H&K for benefits similar to Abjure and Flare of Denial

Archidekt

Hidetsugu and Kairi - Commander deck

(1) Commander • (9) Bombs • (15) Clones • (5) Copy • (14) Draw • (29) Land • (6) Protection • (8) Ramp • (8) Recursion • (5) Removal

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Mercurial Spelldancer and Taigam feel really good in this deck too as it gives me more value for casting those spells.

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vapid pike
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Hey everyone! I’m looking for some honest feedback and power-level opinions on my custom Tidus, Yuna Guardian deck.

I usually play this deck as a high B2 / low B3, but I often get mixed reactions at tables. Some players say it feels too strong for B2 or assume it’s a precon (it’s not), while others say it’s fine for B2 and that the real difference comes down to how much interaction people are running.

From my experience:

  • If I’m allowed to draw a large portion of my deck, things can spiral quickly.
  • If I ramp up to 8+ lands uncontested, the deck can get pretty wild.
  • The deck does win at B2 arround turn 9 to 11, but struggles to consistently win in true B3 pods with higher interaction.
  • It leans heavily on what other players do — when spells get cast, things scale up fast.

Deck list:

https://moxfield.com/decks/ADaH7F-tmEu0t7-fbsBgpA

I’d really appreciate your thoughts on:

  • What power bracket this deck actually belongs in (B2 / B3 / B4)?
  • Whether it’s too strong for casual B2 tables
  • How interaction (or lack of it) affects your judgment
  • What changes would clearly push it up or down a bracket

Thanks in advance for taking a look!

rich yew
# vapid pike Hey everyone! I’m looking for some honest feedback and power-level opinions on m...

Yup. That's hydras for ya. Sorta feast/famine depending on your opponents' removal options. Your estimate seems fair given there aren't any easy silly combos I missed.

If you want to upgrade a bit to a solid 3 I would suggest a couple more defensive spells (heroic intervention, the ozolith), and mash in a bit of recursion and more creature utility [[evolution witness]], and consider running a creature tutor or two. [[Tooth and nail]]

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vapid pike
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haha no i know but my intention is to be a b2 basically and i think the only issue is if people let me draw half my deck or ramp all my lands i can do stuff but so is any deck basicly 😄

queen orchid
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So for the #1449566243081289778 deck I made a number of changes. I am rather new to deck building so will need constructive advice.

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queen orchid
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Added it

queen orchid
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timid lichen
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@feral sapphire You have 21 cards you would like to play on your first two turns and a few tapped lands that you'd likely want to play on turn one as well. I think you may be overdoing it a little bit on the density of low mana-low value plays. It is nice to curve out though.

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rich yew
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If they kill Jodah repeatedly you can still ramp out to big bois, so the deck clearly paints you as the target

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Still may want to preface the game by saying you will be the problem

faint oasis
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Does [[Urianger Augurelt]] work well as a commander?

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faint oasis
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I'm making decks to represent the player characters in my DnD group, and one of them is a cleric of the goddess of strings. I am deciding between representing her with this card or with [[Narset, Enlightened Exile]]

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Legendary Creature — Human Monk
Creatures you control have prowess.
Whenever Narset attacks, exile target noncreature, nonland card with mana value less than Narset's power from a graveyard and copy it. You may cast the copy without paying its mana cost.
They called her unique insight a "gift." Then she saw the truth, and suddenly it was a "threat."
3/4

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But either are functional commanders

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Urianger would have to build a new arcanum if he ever left the field

rich yew
faint oasis
# rich yew What race/abilities does the PC have?

They are a cleric of the goddess of strings. They've got the standard support stuff that clerics get, but the core unique abilities they have are social manipulation and crowd control stuff. I think whoever I pick to represent them needs to at least have blue and white.

rich yew
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rich yew
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Warlocks are basically clerics

drifting herald
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https://www.ligamagic.com.br/?view=dks/deck&id=9832964
I just brewed a Meren deck ( I still hasn’t made the mana base and may or may not do some changes cause I wanna try to make it around 34/35 lands as I also my change some creatures from the list to make it stronger/better mana curve) may need some help

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Since I think I’m overshooting on card draw/ popping stuff

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Instead of a win con/ number of creature

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Also I removed and threw different stuff that was a lil weaker than what I had before cause I would become a brokie

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Or yall think it’s good enough

feral sapphire
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ideas for boros flying creatures that are low end but powerful for a [[seph fallen hero]] counters deck?

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Legendary Creature — Human Avatar Soldier
Jenova Cells — Whenever Sephiroth attacks, you may put a cell counter on target creature. Until end of turn, each modified creature you control has base power and toughness 7/5. (Equipment, Auras you control, and counters are modifications.)
The Reunion — mana3, Sacrifice a modified creature: Return this card from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped.
7/5

alpine ermine
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anyone has some good indepth deckbuilding guides for commander ? kinda struggling with mine lately

drifting herald
alpine ermine
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in general

drifting herald
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Hmm I may not be the best for it rho

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Tho stuff thst synergizes Is a step

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Also a land base around 30-40

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36-38 being a golden number

alpine ermine
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general idee of my decks

drifting herald
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Will see in a bit )

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Doing some work rn

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Hmm I gave a look at the clue one

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Sorcery/instant reveal

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Fast look

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Like I understand u wanting to protect

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Ur commander wirh the artifacts

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But should u focus more on the instants and sorceries ?

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For the more consistent token gen ?

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and by the looks u prob will already make enough clue tokens

alpine ermine
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you only make 1 4/4

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its leg

flint obsidian
alpine ermine
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go b3 with that

rich yew
feral sapphire
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I'll add em all to my deck and see what I can do thank you. Serra Ascendant maybe a bit too good for a b2 deck though but I also use ut in my copy auras calix deck so lol

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I have too many now lol idk what to cut

rich yew
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[[Elenda's heirophant]] could also be good even with minimal lifegain.

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feral sapphire
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Sunscorched helped me win my last game lol

rich yew
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Fair, so long as it's worth the mana

feral sapphire
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Curious why you would cut thr battle squad?

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It's a game ender affectivelt with a big board, multi combats

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Or is it the only once a turn bit

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For 6 mana

rich yew
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I think that you can get similar effects with way less, and even one extra combat could be enough

feral sapphire
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So like [[full throttle])

rich yew
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[[Combat celebrant]]

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feral sapphire
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[[Full throttle]]

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rich yew
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But yeah

feral sapphire
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If only he had haste lol

rich yew
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True

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Ooh [[Karlach, fury]]

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feral sapphire
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Interesting

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I do own a copy of her

rich yew
flint obsidian
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whats you say that and also can you help me with finish making it? I also got a list of all the cards I have if needed on Manabox

rich yew
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I don't know what that is :)

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But sure-maybe later. Home sick and I kinda just burned through all my energy

flint obsidian
feral sapphire
outer gale
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I need help, my ygra deck failed hard, did too much, i need guidence in mtg deck building [[arjun the shifting flame]] it has 2 two thing card draw and spells, in your experince how would you build him? i know mana rocks would be useful, and tutors but thats where i drop off

rare escarpBOT
rich yew
flint obsidian
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thank you so much

fluid cape
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Anyone have any good mass sacrifice board wipes? I currently have all is dust, blasphemous edict, neurotic hex, and taste of death. Looking for maybe 1 or 2 more

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Commander colors are black and blue

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A creature that makes everyone sacrifice will work too

flint obsidian
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@rich yew let me know when is best today, if you are available

topaz berry
rare escarpBOT
old turret
minor lagoon
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Realized I was the only cube post on the server, anyone know of any "cube servers" or just general places to go for cube info?

granite dagger
forest dock
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Anyone able to weigh in on this for me? I'm torn between ripples of undeath and Sylvan Library in necrobloom

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Im leaning Sylvan because I want to control what I mill off the dredge

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And I can choose all the cards if I want them

clever gull
forest dock
clever gull
forest dock
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Let me take a peek

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Me and a friend of mine brewed up an RMS titanic deck, it's intended to be about a bracket three deck. we decided to send it in a few servers to get an outside look on it https://archidekt.com/decks/14133098/rms_titanic

Archidekt

RMS Titanic - Commander deck

(1) Commander • (1) Artifact • (3) Burn • (1) Copy • (6) Creature • (6) Draw • (1) Evasion • (1) Finisher • (1) Instant • (35) Land • (5) Protection • (20) Pump • (7) Ramp • (9) Removal • (1) Stax • (2) Tokens

forest dock
forest dock
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Oh oops

lime moth
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[[Frozen Aether]] does this seem overcosted for its effect?

rare escarpBOT
minor lagoon
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No, pretty strong stax piece for the control color that bounces stuff

lime moth
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I'm at two minds right now if I should build [[Edgin, Lutenist]] more as Stax or if I should make it more creature heavy I finally got a [[Possibility Storm]] lock in-place and the table really quickly takes offense against that lol

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Human Bard
Each nonland card in your hand without foretell has foretell. Its foretell cost is equal to its mana cost reduced by mana2. (During your turn, you may pay mana2 and exile it from your hand face down. Cast it on a later turn for its foretell cost.)
Whenever you cast your second spell each turn, goad target creature an opponent controls.
3/3

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Enchantment
Whenever a player casts a spell from their hand, that player exiles it, then exiles cards from the top of their library until they exile a card that shares a card type with it. That player may cast that card without paying its mana cost. Then they put all cards exiled with this enchantment on the bottom of their library in a random order.

silent matrix
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do y'all think adding [[ardyn the usurper]] to my bracket 3 voltron [[valgavoth harrower of souls]] deck is worth it being 8 mana

rare escarpBOT
silent matrix
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considering this deck can pretty reliably swing for commander damage turn 5, giving him menace and lifelink plus making this voltron deck more blockers is pretty wild

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theres plenty of protective recursion in it too so i can spare some for ardyn instead of putting it on vothy

timid lichen
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I'd say 8 mana is a bit much. Unless it is a dedicated reanimator deck. Even then, it might be a bit of a 'win-more' card, that typically does little unless you are already in a good position to win. In which case, is this the card you need to push you over the top?

silent matrix
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I don’t have much in the way of evasion for him so giving menace on top of flying means I can better take someone out if they’re struggling to get flyers up, plus with the added bodies on top of the ones I get from [[kazuul tyrant of the]] means I can better swing and have a defense up especially if they have lifelink. Ardyn also servers as a powerful consistent threat each turn he’s up though and could soak one piece of removal that might otherwise go to my commander
All that being said, it could very well be a win more card, and 8 mana is incredibly steep. I already don’t often play the only 7 drop in the deck despite it directly working into the decks game plan just because there’s always better things I can do.

rare escarpBOT
feral sapphire
copper moth
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Hey is it cool to have [[Bruna the faiding light]] as the commader of a angels deck when I want that to be the finisher?

rare escarpBOT
feral sapphire
floral anchor
strange coral
thin arch
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I want to build a Firebending deck, but I’m torn on who the commander should be. Do you think [[Avatar Roku, Firebender]] or [[Ozai, the Phoenix King]] would make for a more consistent deck? I know they’d have similar pieces in them, as well

rare escarpBOT
copper cliff
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I would say that Ozai would provide smoother gameplay because he has some bulit-in protection, doesn't force you to spend the mana in combat, and has access to black

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You will probably want a better manabase with him though, since he has four pips

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I think Roku would be more explosive

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Six mana in each player's combat is huge, so if he can stay on board and you have things to play (meaning you need lots of draw, which is difficult in monored!), he can completely blow out everyone

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Ozai is a wincon in himself, while you'll have to think of a way to kill everyone with Roku

red root
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True and just to throw my 2 cents in the ring, azula is busted lol

red root
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Just posted a new deck I’ve been working on, some ideas would be appreciated, I still have to add in some general ramp but I’m also not sure how much is necessary

feral sapphire
rich yew
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Life finally slowing down a bit so I'll be able to dink around some more. For now I'm looking at [[Ashnod uncaring]] and I noticed treasures aren't copied because they use mana abilities. I'm looking for more grixis non-mana sacrifice abilities on artifacts and creatures that generate mana. So far I got [[warren soul trader]], [[burnished hart]], and ways to turn my fetchlands into artifacts. Deck will have a bunch of artifact token gen.

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Human Artificer
Deathtouch
Whenever you activate an ability of an artifact or creature that isn't a mana ability, if one or more permanents were sacrificed to activate it, you may copy that ability. You may choose new targets for the copy. (Sacrificing an artifact for mana to activate an ability doesn't count.)
1/4

outer gale
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https://archidekt.com/decks/18644510/the_decks_of_many_things hey wonderful deck builders, im building this tiny bones deck and i for a fact built the first 100 wrong but i need help to see what i should add, cause idk

Archidekt

Tinybones, Bauble Burglar - Commander deck

(1) Commander • (5) Artifact • (18) causes discard • (11) Enchantment • (7) graveyard retrevial • (2) increases because of discard • (4) Instant • (37) Land • (8) land finders • (7) Sorcery

rich yew
outer gale
rich yew
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Have you considered [[swamp]]

rare escarpBOT
rich yew
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I would cut all your land finder cards for artifact ramp

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Maybe a [[black market]]

rare escarpBOT
rich yew
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Sol ring, charcoal diamond, mind stone, arcane signet

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Also you can play lands that your opponents discard with your commander out

rich yew
# strange coral https://moxfield.com/decks/VQARf7CnlE2Klge-tvjXZA This is what I have so far fo...

Please fill out your deck with basic lands, just makes it easier to look through. Only obvious red flag is two Eddie Brocks. Can't do that sadly.

If available I would put in the black and red Overlords too. They get put out cheap and sac to Venom for a lot of value. [[Ancient stone idol]] [[avatar of fury]] [[avatar of might]] [[avatar of woe]] all have conditions that reduce the mana you pay for them, but you'll still draw 8+ cards for sacrificing them and cheat something big in.

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rich yew
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There are many examples of big bargain creatures, these are just some good ones.

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Also super good with the new warp cards

lyric pike
rich yew
lyric pike
rich yew
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There are a few ways to do it. Main ones being overrun, anthems, drain, and blowout x spells

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[[craterhoof behemoth]] [[overrun]] [[intangible virtue]] [[nadier's nightb]] [[exsanguinate]]

rare escarpBOT
rich yew
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These are some examples. I suggest only sticking to a couple of these playstyles (unless they work well together)

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top 2 are overrun

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There are many better anthems too

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[[jaheira, friend]]

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lyric pike
rich yew
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If you have 15+ creatures to attack with it will likely win the game

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also searchable as a creature

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AW is much better with like 10 5/5s

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also half the mana. dang.

lyric pike
frigid plover
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Trying to make copies of [[skeleton crew]] in Jund. I've considered a lot of different options, but thought I'd ask in case anyone else had ideas.

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frigid plover
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also trying to find good targets for cloning that'd work in a skeleton deck, so i'm not too reliant on drawing into the Crew specifically. as it stands I'm not playing a lot of ETB effects, and as good as cloning Skeleton Crew is, it's not exactly ideal to be such a specific combo.

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I thought [[Skeleton Archer]] would be funny if I could reliably give them all deathtouch, but it's just such a bad card, idk if I can justify it....

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deft violet
rich yew
lyric pike
rich yew
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Up to you, there are a couple good cards in your deck already. Creature based finishers would be better just cause you can search for them

rich yew
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Creature — Skeleton Noble
At the beginning of combat on your turn, exile up to one target card from a graveyard.
mana1manab: Adapt 2.
Whenever one or more +1/+1 counters are put on this creature, put a creature card exiled with this creature onto the battlefield under your control with a finality counter on it. It gains haste. Sacrifice it at the beginning of the next end step.
2/2

rich yew
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Slim pickings for us skeleton lovers. Otherwise be sure to look at changeling cards

frigid plover
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Paragon is so mediocre compared to crew, but I guess having more anthems couldn't hurt.... Death Tyrant would be so good if he made skeletons. same goes for [[Bladewing, Deathless Tyrant]]

[[Ghastly Death Tyrant]] has an ETB that'd get copied if he were ever cloned, but CMC 6 isn't ideal...

rare escarpBOT
frigid plover
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waiting for that "soul separator" retool, "bone separator" that lets me mechanically debone my zombie tokens into skeletons and like.... food/blood tokens.

rich yew
rare escarpBOT
rich yew
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Also general type matters cards, but they are usually a lot less interesting :<

mortal fable
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any ideas for upgrading the abzaan armour precon

median herald
median herald
dusk dagger
gusty musk
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I was thinking about running a goblin variant of auntie ool with vorinclex in it, thoughts?

old turret
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Quick Question

Even though arcade is not from the WHO set

Can i use her as companion (Cause of the doctors companion abilities wording)

uneven loomBOT
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702.124n “Doctor’s companion” means “You may designate two legendary creature cards as your commander rather than one if one of them is this card and the other is a legendary Time Lord Doctor creature card that has no other creature types.”

crystal pendant
outer gale
rocky halo
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I'm having a blast building Magus Lucea Kane (Commander bracket 2 gameplan: cast her on turn 4, X spell on turn 5). Very excited to put it together. I think I have the general shape of the deck, but I'm really having trouble cutting down to 100. I'd appreciate any feedback anyone might have: https://discord.com/channels/574711449566445603/1459679059205292216

strange coral
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Is 13 'Ramp' cards too much in an [[Eddie Brock]] deck?

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Legendary Creature — Human Hero Villain
When Eddie Brock enters, return target creature card with mana value 1 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield.
mana3manabmanarmanag: Transform Eddie Brock. Activate only as a sorcery.
"I've got the nose for the story. He's got the hunger for the kill. Together..."
3/3

Venom, Lethal Protector mana3manabmanarmanag
Legendary Creature — Symbiote Hero Villain
Menace, trample, haste
Whenever Venom attacks, you may sacrifice another creature. If you do, draw X cards, then you may put a permanent card with mana value X or less from your hand onto the battlefield, where X is the sacrificed creature's mana value.
"... we are Venom!"
5/5

faint oasis
idle glacier
rich yew
rare escarpBOT
strange coral
strange coral
scenic thicket
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can you please help me to cut the last cards in this deck that's so hard😭 https://archidekt.com/decks/18577412/land_sacrifice

Archidekt

Toph, Hardheaded Teacher - Commander deck

(1) Commander • (5) Additionnal lands • (2) Cantrips • (3) Creature • (12) Draw • (1) Draw/ramp • (1) Finisher • (39) Land • (6) Land recursion • (6) Landfall • (2) Protection • (15) Ramp • (2) Recursion • (6) Removal • (3) Sac Outlet

rich yew
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Cuts: eerie gravestone, explosive veg, forsake miner, gravecrawler, starving rev, (venom, eddie brock), protean hulk unless you have a plan for it, surgical extraction.

Add: overlord of the balemurk, overlord of the boilerbilges, overlord of the hauntwoods, Ashnod's intervention, fake your own death, feign death, malakir rebirth, not dead after all

These are all suggestions. If you want to stay in budget or keep cards for flavor you can pick and choose. I also saw you had some good mill payoffs but near no mill cards. Colossal grave reaver needs support or you need to cut it, but with the other cards that want permanents in the yard I would lean towards getting a few mill cards.

Land base needs fixed if you want to run nonbasic ramp. Having at least the surveil duals would be great to find with nature's lore, etc.. [[underground mortuary]]

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scenic thicket
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it only target 1 player and it's expensive

strange coral
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@scenic thicket @rich yew Ohh I thought it was a boardwide thing. Was trying to come up with something to follow the command zone template. Definitely want to make modifications to support mill, reanimation, sacrifice, and big creatures. I know i need to fix my lands just wanted to address the base cards first then go from there. Thanks for the feedback though, ill keep working on it for sure!

elfin horizon
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alright, im interested in finally doing something that isn’t a tier 2 (maybe 3) deck. thought i might build a bracket 4 deck but not sure where to go/who to build

was thinking about [[Sen Triplets]] but i build a lot of esper already. any thoughts? playgroup and store are proxy friendly

rare escarpBOT
strange coral
dusk dagger
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Anyone's brewing [[Doran, Besieged by Time]]?

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Treefolk Druid
Each creature spell you cast with toughness greater than its power costs mana1 less to cast.
Whenever a creature you control attacks or blocks, it gets +X/+X until end of turn, where X is the difference between its power and toughness.
"Each year that passes rots you with scars. Shelter your heart, for the world is cruel."
0/5

dusk dagger
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That's where I'm at atm

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No Defenders

crystal nymph
topaz berry
rich yew
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Otherwise just pick a couple that look less fun to play with

rich yew
strange coral
elfin horizon
scenic thicket
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You should cut Hellkite charger(needs too much mana), psychosis crawler, Rhino, warstorm surge(it's a winmore) and Venom deadly devourer. You should put in Beifong's bounty hunter, redirect lightning, sneak attack, living death and Mikaeus the unhallowed. (These are just suggestions, just do whatever you want) 🙂

strange coral
scenic thicket
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yes

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sorry 😅

strange coral
scenic thicket
rare escarpBOT
strange coral
scenic thicket
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Yeah 👍

strange coral
rich yew
strange coral
limpid depot
rancid cypress
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[[Sundial of the infinite]], you can cheat on cast cost and then cheat on end step tax

rare escarpBOT
lone ferry
rancid cypress
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Swine-Rider sounds like it will do more harm than good
Welder doesn't seem to useful here
Zada doesn't do anything at all
And honestly the Sticker Goblin ia good but kinda irritating to play

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Spite of Mogis doesn't make much sense in the deck either.

rancid cypress
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I'm ngl, a lot of cards are questionable

pulsar elm
rich yew
strange coral
fluid gate
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Hey everybody, I got the Terra precon a couple weeks ago and was looking to upgrade but then realized I changed the whole thing. I’m looking for help either optimizing it.
https://archidekt.com/decks/18475522/terra_herald_of_hope

Archidekt

Terra, Herald of Hope - Commander deck

(1) Commander • (3) Additional Combats • (2) Big Payoff • (8) Draw • (7) Fill the yard • (35) Land • (5) Protection • (11) Ramp • (12) Recursion • (10) Removal • (6) Tutor

timid lichen
# fluid gate Hey everybody, I got the Terra precon a couple weeks ago and was looking to upgr...

The really expensive cards are very powerful. A good replacement for Esper Sentinel/Orcish Bowmasters does not really exist as far as I know. Then you run Ranger Captain of Eos, Imperial Recruiter and Recruiter of the guard that are probably specifically in the deck to find these creatures. Letting this package go and replacing them with weaker but cheaper creatures at manavalue 3 or less may bring the strength of the deck down quite a bit. This could make it fit into bracket 3 though. If you then also cut the Teferi's Protection, you should be within budget.

Cheap replacement creatures that would fit the theme:

Morbid Opportunist
Dauthi Voidwalker
Welcoming Vampire
Inti, Senechal of the Sun
Cathar's Commando
Bounty Agent

and then perhaps Reprieve as interaction in place of Teferi's Protection

fluid gate
timid lichen
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Damn, so much time wasted 😆

fluid gate
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I'm sorry man, i did have inti and dauthi in mind, but the removal options you gave were helpful

timid lichen
rancid cypress
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I'd see how often [[Redemption Choir]] can be triggered in your deck since it's basically a Sun titan you can reanimate with Terra

rare escarpBOT
analog siren
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https://archidekt.com/decks/18980460/vincent_counter i've been trying to monoblack for the first time and im still trying to get some ideas, is there any more optimizing i can do? i know i want to drop necropotence, just personally but i wanted to add to make it to 100 at the time

Archidekt

Vincent Valentine // Galian Beast - Commander deck

(1) Commander • (1) Counters • (1) Creature • (3) Drain • (9) Draw • (2) Evasion • (1) Infect • (37) Land • (8) Protection • (7) Ramp • (3) Recursion • (26) Removal • (1) Tutor

rancid cypress
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if it's within budget, might want to consider [[commander's plate]]
And since the backside has lifelink, [[K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth]] is a good piece of ramp
there sadly isn't as good a draw piece as Necro but [[The Speed Demon]] does somewhat a good job (and if you do maybe add start your engine cards like [[Amonkhet Raceway]], [[Momentum Breaker]], and [[Muraganda Raceway]]),
Or if you're fine with more gradual draw look for Monarch cards

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analog siren
elfin horizon
modest ocean
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Anyone have suggestions for synergies with [[Secret Tunnel]]? I've been earthbending it into an unblockable surprise for my opponents. [[Cosmium Confluence]] is the first choice - a tutor and a huge boost - and [[Bulk Up]] hits hard too. Anything else I'm not thinking of?

rare escarpBOT
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Land — Cave
This land can't be blocked.
manat: Add manac.
mana4, manat: Two target creatures you control that share a creature type can't be blocked this turn.
"I forget the next couple of lines, but then it goes...'Secret tunnel! Secret tunnel!" —Chong, nomad musician

rich yew
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[[Legend of Kyoshi]] is another way to give it a big head start-if you have a big creature/hand already

rare escarpBOT
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Enchantment — Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter.)
I — Draw cards equal to the greatest power among creatures you control.
II — Earthbend X, where X is the number of cards in your hand. That land becomes an Island in addition to its other types.
III — Exile this Saga, then return it to the battlefield transformed under your control.

Avatar Kyoshi
Legendary Creature — Avatar
Lands you control have trample and hexproof.
manat: Add X mana of any one color, where X is the greatest power among creatures you control.
"Only justice will bring peace."
5/4

bold rune
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Gotten into using [[Summon: Bahamut]] as a wincon for my Karn deck. So far it's become an experience of "okay yall have to deal with this now or I just blow the table up"

rare escarpBOT
bold rune
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I just need to see how it interacts with [[Echoes of Eternity]]

rare escarpBOT
silent matrix
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i need to cut two cards from this teval deck, any suggestions?
https://archidekt.com/decks/16428222/teval_20
its wincon is have a bunch of 2/2 zombie druid tokens that get buffed through various other cards (flying, afflict 3, +1/+1, etc) then overwhelm the board, or use adventuring gear on my commander to ramp and swing for lethal in the air. id like to keep anything that i can bring out of the graveyard after its milled

Archidekt

Teval, the Balanced Scale - Commander deck

(1) Commander • (5) Draw • (1) Evasion • (1) Finisher • (37) Land • (6) Landfall • (1) Lifegain • (4) Mill • (11) Ramp • (23) Recursion • (6) Removal • (2) Sac Outlet • (4) Tokens

soft fox
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anyone have tips for cuts for golgari shock [[fountainport]] and [[sapling nursery]]? the rampant froguanta is my pet card so I'm not cutting that haha same for the horn I paid tto much for that card so I fisrtt want my moneys worth out of that one. also contemplating on adding [[Prismatic Undercurrents]] but I'm not sure since I don;t have to many basics plus that its 4 mana comapred to the other extra land cards that are 3 or have some powerfull extra effecthttps://archidekt.com/decks/13519746/necrobloom

Archidekt

The Necrobloom - Commander deck

(1) Commander • (1) Anthem • (1) Burn • (1) Drain • (6) Draw • (39) Land • (4) Landfall • (2) Mill • (2) Protection • (21) Ramp • (7) Recursion • (7) Removal • (1) Sac Outlet • (1) Stax • (6) Tokens

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old turret
full sequoia
tribal matrix
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https://archidekt.com/decks/18993633/everyones_invited

Thinking on pulling these cards and 5 lands to add these to everyone's invited. Though I'm kind of remiss removing double strike from this list since it would make some of my anthems really sing. Id probably remove voja for tarl instead. What are you guys thoughts?

Archidekt

Morophon, the Boundless - Commander deck

(1) Commander • (5) Artifact • (29) Creature • (3) Enchantment • (5) Instant • (37) Land • (5) Sorcery

gray yoke
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https://moxfield.com/decks/1IZ2pkg2PUSkEEP0S7xQ2A

Since they're making a New Vegas secret lair, I figured it would be a good time to finally try and build an Isshin deck. However, I think I'm trying to do too much lol

My original vision was go-wide goodstuff with attack triggers and damage pings. But then I added too many stax things and protection spells. I think I wanna stay with the go wide strat with just a few of the protection spells. So I need to know what are the absolute best creatures / other cards to keep and which ones I should cut, as hard as it is to let them go. Or, alternatively, if there are cards that are better alternatives of ones that are already in the deck that I should consider...

elder lagoon
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If I have [[thran vigil]] and a creature with persist does the vigil resolve after the creature is already on board

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elder lagoon
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Oops

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Rules question fail

young phoenix
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Yes, until persist resolves, not have left the grave. than vigil triggers so it can target that same creature

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:p

young phoenix
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fun card to play with it its not so expensive 😢

bold rune
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Also big colourless spells are kinda easy to cast in a colourless deck

faint oasis
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I tried doing some goldfishing on my upgrade for a [[Kilo, Apogee Mind]] deck, and my biggest issue is that I don't have enough cards that can let me consistently tap Kilo without attacking. Any suggestions?

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young phoenix
bold rune
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So itll destory 2 perms on 1 and 2, draw 2 cards twice on 3, and deal damage equal to the value of your other perms twice on 4

young phoenix
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thats the problem i have, i think Echoes will double up the trigger of the saga. Therefore, putting ... oh wait

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I think it should be:

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Enter, 1 lore counter, chapter 1 twice. Next turn after draw, Saga Trigger AFter draw TWICE. So it will put a counter, trigger Chapter 2 Twice, Then put another lore counter,, trigger Chapter 3 Twice

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so you kinda did a "read ahead" by reading faster than usual

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and dies on the Third turn it comes in, after chapter 4 resolves

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is it ever played outside of commander? idk other format

bold rune
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It doesnt work like that, the lore counters are unaffected, that's what the folks in the rules chat said

young phoenix
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i didnt say the counter itself is affect, i said that i think the trigger that PUTS lore counter is affected

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saga triggers after draw should be Turn-based action that add lore counter to all sagas you control

bold rune
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Ask them yourself

young phoenix
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well, i am not the one playing that summon

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

bold rune
young phoenix
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most of the wording is similar to [[mothdust changeling]]'s activate ability

rare escarpBOT
young phoenix
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i would split up the "tap an untapped" "creature" if you want to expand the serach and ":" for activated abilities rather than triggers or resolving a spell

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i like [[vadalken certarch]] in an artifact deck

rare escarpBOT
young phoenix
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any/most vehicle can also crew with 3 power

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[[aura of domination]] does both

rare escarpBOT
cunning spoke
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Can someone help me with my land base

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It’s my first 5 colored deck and got 35 slots for lands and struggling how to balance basics/duals

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white 28
blue 24
green 17
red 16
black 8
Here’s how many colored mana is needed for each color

Was thinking mainly focusing on White or Blue dual lands so stuff like simic selesnya boros izzet arzorius with a very minimal splash of like one orzohv and dimir land but then gotta think how to split roughly 20 basic lands among the five colors

proper fiber
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it kinda depends on what kind of lands you plan on running and what your ramp and mana fixing suite looks like.
if you're trying to stick to a lower budget, which it kinda sounds like to me given you want to run 20 basics in your deck, then I suggest actually skewing your mana base towards green, running green land ramp, which can help you fetch the other colors you need.

cunning spoke
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Yeah went for 20 basica split between
So far have it split apart like this
4 plains
4 island
3 forest
3 mountain
1 swamp
Plus the 5 eoe lands

With green ramp that searches for lands like farseek

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Tho tbf i have everything else in the deck and they were on my to grab list so outside of ziatora’s proving ground and the temur triome finally grab the ones i’m missing (jeskai triome, mardu triome, jetmir garden, sparra’s headquarter and xander’s lounge) and evendos and maybe an extra adagia while i’m atnit

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Other ramp include cultivate and kodama’s reach and the one spaceship that searches lands (it’s infinite guide station for context)

proper fiber
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the reason I suggest skewing towards green is because if you're running those green ramp spells, it becomes really important that you hit atleast one green source early on, so you can start ramping and fining those other sources

cunning spoke
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Alrighty, might try to boost up the green then

proper fiber
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the triomes are neat, although you want to run fetchlands in conjunction with them. Otherwise you may as well run the tarkir trilands

cunning spoke
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True

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Tho that’s a step too steep for me

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I’ll try to check of i can cut some creatures or spaceships and add more green

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Don’t think i can cut my instant or sorceries any more then i already have

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Or add in a talisman or two like the selesnya or simic ones

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Plus don’t think i added any lander token generator so that sucks

cunning spoke
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Imma give it another look over see if i can focus the strategy more since i mostly just grabbed a bunch of spaceships from edh rec snd what looked not overcosted

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And maybe with the cuts add the extra ramp

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Or cut down the mana rocks

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austere mural
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What do people think of [[Chronicle of Victory]]? Specifically, I'm considering it in a [[Sliver Overlord]] deck where combat damage is a primary wincon. Id love to hear what you all think of the card. The deck is pretty ramp heavy, but im not sure whether the effect is worth six mana.

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austere mural
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Im trying to evaluate, for example, whether I should replace [[Kindred Discovery]]. Chronicle is one mana more, but it buffs, adds keywords, and draws on cast rather than etb or attack.

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young phoenix
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discovery is both etb and attack

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much better than anything you can replace imo

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if you want chronicle it can fit the bill for win con, but in some case it maybe a "win more". the stat +2 and ability is worth it (in terms of mana cost)

rancid cypress
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I'd actually say that for slivers specifically you really don't need Chronicle since you'll already have slivers that buff themselves and drawing into them via Kindred is probably better

rich yew
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@flint obsidian [[norman ozborn]]

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No card found for “norman ozborn”

rich yew
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[[Norman Osborn]]

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[[Green goblin]]

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Legendary Creature — Human Scientist Villain
Norman Osborn can't be blocked.
Whenever Norman Osborn deals combat damage to a player, he connives. (Draw a card, then discard a card. If you discarded a nonland card, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature.)
mana1manaumanabmanar: Transform Norman Osborn. Activate only as a sorcery.
1/1

Green Goblin mana1manaumanabmanar
Legendary Creature — Goblin Human Villain
Flying, menace
Spells you cast from your graveyard cost mana2 less to cast.
Goblin Formula — Each nonland card in your graveyard has mayhem. The mayhem cost is equal to its mana cost. (You may cast a card from your graveyard for its mayhem cost if you discarded it this turn. Timing rules still apply.)
3/3

rich yew
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There we go

feral sapphire
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Anyone have good ideas for creatures in rakdos colors that can be turned into hasty +1/+1 countered fake vampire attackers via [[Olivia mobilized]]

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timid lichen
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[[Alesha, Who Laughs at Fate]]

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timid lichen
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Legendary Creature — Bird Dragon
Flying
Whenever Dragonhawk enters or attacks, exile the top X cards of your library, where X is the number of creatures you control with power 4 or greater. You may play those cards until your next end step. At the beginning of your next end step, Dragonhawk deals 2 damage to each opponent for each of those cards that are still exiled.
5/5

feral sapphire
feral sapphire
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Hang on I accidentally added the at rhe end

timid lichen
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Hmm, Faithless Looting is actually card disadvantage. So don't know if I would consider it draw in this deck.

young phoenix
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its selection but not advantage. sometimes in decks that run Anger etc will give more synergy

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in olivia it may hurt more than help

faint oasis
rich yew
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rich yew
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Basically cut out all cards that mill opponents unless they're really good at milling you too

rich yew
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Crop rotation doesn't have any utility targets so it can go.

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Sludge titan is good, but slow. You probably want to be able to cast your commander and mill that same turn

faint oasis
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Also am I correct in thinking that Hedge shredder + Icetill explorer is an abolutely bonkers ramping combo?

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cuz hedge shredder makes milled lands go right onto the battlefield

rich yew
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Maybe dredger's insight.

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Shredder do be shreddin

faint oasis
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Also I just want to check if I read a rule right: If I were to mill 3 cards with sidisi on the battlefield, and 2 were creature, would sidisi make a zombie for each creature milled or would he only make on zombie for all 3?

faint oasis
rich yew
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Ok, this changes things

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Well, there are still a lot of reasons to run it anyway

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Mass land recursion, living death, etc

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But altar of dementia might not be as good if you can't go positive in bodies

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Nyx is better, but still iffy. Ramunap excavator may be unnecessary with all the rest

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Modal dual faced lands are not land cards in your graveyard, so check if there are any you reaaally want to keep

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Cause I think you can't play/recur them as lands

rich yew
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Ok, so you can play mdfc lands as lands from your gy

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And non-casting effects only count the front face, so cards like aftermath analyst and grisly salvage wont count them as lands

faint oasis
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If I have [[Wilhelt, the Rotcleaver]] on the battlefield I can sac the decayed zombies with altar of dementia after they deal damage but before they get automatically sacrificed when combat resolves

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faint oasis
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Doing that with at least [[death baron]] or [[diregraf captain]] on the field makes it so it is most optimal to immediately sac any non-decayed token zombies I have to amass a huge army of them

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faint oasis
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Tho looking at it now I may need some life gain cards in the deck since I have a lot of cards that ping me for life

faint oasis
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could I lose the game if I'm forced to mill with an empty library?

timid lichen
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Only if you draw a card while the library is empty.

rich yew
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Was mostly looking at noncreature cards. Cuts get harder when your cards are good :P

pearl pilot
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Usually they let the draw kill you by passing

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It equates to the same thing

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But this is also why cards like [[laboratory maniac]] exist.

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pearl pilot
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Also.... I am responsible for one of it's rulings, why it exists anyway

silent matrix
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Do yall think [[ashling rekindled]] is better built as a spellslinger commander or as a secret locust got crazy draw token/burn deck with ramp/draw in the command zone?

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Legendary Creature — Elemental Sorcerer
Whenever this creature enters or transforms into Ashling, Rekindled, you may discard a card. If you do, draw a card.
At the beginning of your first main phase, you may pay manau. If you do, transform Ashling.
1/3

Ashling, Rimebound
Legendary Creature — Elemental Wizard
Whenever this creature transforms into Ashling, Rimebound and at the beginning of your first main phase, add two mana of any one color. Spend this mana only to cast spells with mana value 4 or greater.
At the beginning of your first main phase, you may pay manar. If you do, transform Ashling.
1/3

timid lichen
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slow garnet
tribal matrix
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https://archidekt.com/decks/19401800/greasefang_fast_and_furious

Is Discard or Mill better for Greasefang? I feel like the mill gets me more fuel in the graveyard, but its kind of a risk since you lose out on sorceries and instants for their effects,

Archidekt

Greasefang, Okiba Boss - Commander deck

(1) Commander • (5) Bombing down the Backroads • (13) Chop Shop • (7) Don't mod your leased Hyundai Elantra • (15) Facebook Marketplace is a Graveyard • (6) Go back to Doug and Bids • (38) Land • (9) Mint Condition Mk4 Supra • (6) Searching Bring a Trailer at 3am

real plaza
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In what kind of deck would the Cipher mechanic be good for?

rich yew
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Gotta check if it's from exile tho, I don't remember

edgy patrol
trail mason
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Do you guys see any way this shouldnt work? i mean its probably not super high bracket but also seems very fun to pull off

trail mason
timid lichen
trail mason
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no that is not what i plan. this is just a secondary part of the deck, Kaust is mostly there to give me white for airbend. I play some weenie face down creatures to draw with him while airbending the big spells to play them for 2. But maybe another commander would be better at that since the synergy isnt huge?

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The issue is that there is no face down support in white besides Kaust

timid lichen
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What face-down creatures do you intend to flip?

timid lichen
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trail mason
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the idea is to play many cards like this, i can for example turn him, attack, manifest dread, maybe get some 6+mana spell face down, airbend it and play it the next turn for 2

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or just attack if he is face up ofc, but i plan to play alot of manifest dread because it gives me 2 cards to chose

timid lichen
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Well, with Kaust you could flip those cards without airbending. Maybe skip on the air bending as a primary theme instead?

trail mason
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yes maybe i can use it as a secondary theme, after all in a clinch i can also airbend my craterhoof to play for 2

timid lichen
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Yeah, or use any blink effect.

trail mason
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y, but with airbend i could get eldrazi triggers for 2 😄

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Or do u think there is a commander better suited for the airbend plan? the issue is lack of support, ideally it would need to be White and Blue, and maybe green

timid lichen
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I suppose it does depend on the type of big boys you want to use.

trail mason
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in Kaust colors there are only 11 airbend cards sadly

timid lichen
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I actually like Kaust a lot. [[Skirk Alarmist]] is one of my all-time favorite cards that I've never played.

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trail mason
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i could play blink and airbend so i get enough cards that support my plan, and a few game ending spells that abuse the airbend interaction

timid lichen
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I think 11 airbending cards is a bit on the high side, unless you specifically want to flip an eldrazi asap.

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You could actually blink or airbend the creatures you flip with Skirk Alarmist to save em ^^

trail mason
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true

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This would feel good to play for 2😅

timid lichen
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[[Zimone, Mystery Unraveler]]
[[Vannifar, Evolved Enigma]]

Would leave you outside white for air-bending though

[[Etrata Deadly Fugitive]] would make sense if you intend to cast non-creature spells from your facedown permanents.

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Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
Landfall — Whenever a land you control enters, manifest dread if this is the first time this ability has resolved this turn. Otherwise, you may turn a permanent you control face up. (To manifest dread, look at the top two cards of your library. Put one onto the battlefield face down as a 2/2 creature and the other into your graveyard. Turn it face up any time for its mana cost if it's a creature card.)
3/3

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Legendary Creature — Elf Ooze Wizard
At the beginning of combat on your turn, choose one —
• Cloak a card from your hand. (Put it onto the battlefield face down as a 2/2 creature with ward mana2. Turn it face up any time for its mana cost if it's a creature card.)
• Put a +1/+1 counter on each colorless creature you control.
3/4

trail mason
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Yeah also cuts me off from alot of blink

timid lichen
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blue has a fair amount of blink

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I would probably go with Kaust, because he has the more aggressive gameplan.

trail mason
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Yeah. And it might be worth it to play some 1/2 mana reanimate in case he gets targeted

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His cmc makes him easy to reanimate

prime seal
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If i only replace the lands can i still play ashling limitless precon in bracket 2

timid lichen
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Sure

rich yew
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rich yew
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Not just for your cypher spells- works great for big stuff too!

elfin horizon
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i've been wanting to build a deck around [[gogo master]]. what are some good payoffs for me ramping with him?

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Legendary Creature — Wizard
manaxmanax, manat: Copy target activated or triggered ability you control X times. You may choose new targets for the copies. This ability can't be copied and X can't be 0. (Mana abilities can't be targeted.)
"I see... so, you seek to save the world. Then I guess that means I shall save the world as well. Lead on! I will copy your every move."
2/4

rich yew
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Didn't really consider copying a mana ability, very cool

timid lichen
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Well, you cannot really copy mana abilities. But you can copy the activated ability of a fetchland for example.

timid lichen
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rich yew
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[[Ulamog's dreadsire]]

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rich yew
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[[Thunderclap drake]] [[mercurial spelldancer]]

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cunning heart
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so i have been building [[tana, the bloodsower]] [[ardenn]] and it feels like it is all egg in one basket situation

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cunning heart
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while a more popular commander like [[baylen]] would make it less of an issue

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cunning heart
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[[samut, the driving force]]

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Legendary Creature — Human Warrior Cleric
First strike, vigilance, haste
Start your engines! (If you have no speed, it starts at 1. It increases once on each of your turns when an opponent loses life. Max speed is 4.)
Other creatures you control get +X/+0, where X is your speed.
Noncreature spells you cast cost manax less to cast, where X is your speed.
4/5

last ermine
placid thistle
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Ok quick question. Dinosaur not fly but scary. Dinosaur no fly. How make airplane stop hurt?

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I have a few fliers on the deck but is there really any reliable way to stop evasive creatures? Finding lifegain would be a sound plan. But is there something more universal to catch evasive threats in Naya?

placid thistle
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Part of me wants to solve the issue with something dumb like [[eldrazi monument]]

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timid lichen
upbeat lagoon
rich yew
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placid thistle
rich yew
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[[Soulspear]]

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rich yew
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[[Soul spear]]

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topaz berry
timid lichen
topaz berry
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I could throw in [[hall of the bandit]]

timid lichen
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For sure

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timid lichen
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There also is this one spell that sets everyones lifetotal to the lowest lifetotal.

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Although, you don't really have a lot of ways to dish out a little damage, so maybe that doesn't work.

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[[Profane Transfusion]] though

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topaz berry
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That is funny lol

outer gale
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hey guys im trying to streamline my dan lewis deck and i need some help find cards like in RGB that work like white equipment cost level going down

feral sapphire
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Anyone have fun commander build ideas for [[valki, God of lies]] and/or [[tibalt, cosmic imposter]] ?

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Legendary Creature — God
When Valki enters, each opponent reveals their hand. For each opponent, exile a creature card they revealed this way until Valki leaves the battlefield.
manax: Choose a creature card exiled with Valki with mana value X. Valki becomes a copy of that card.
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Tibalt, Cosmic Impostor mana5manabmanar
Legendary Planeswalker — Tibalt
As Tibalt enters, you get an emblem with "You may play cards exiled with Tibalt, Cosmic Impostor, and you may spend mana as though it were mana of any color to cast those spells."
+2: Exile the top card of each player's library.
−3: Exile target artifact or creature.
−8: Exile all graveyards. Add manarmanarmanar.
Loyalty: 5

timid lichen
mental ice
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I've seen a Tibalt MLD deck that was pretty cool. Ramping out a planeswalker and then nuking everything including lands is quite effective

last ermine
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but i agree

feral sapphire
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What sounds like a more fun way to do angel tribal?

Boros with a splash of equipment via [[Tiana ship]]

Typical mardu but [[kaalia zenith]]

Or a bit religious like all color [[Kenrith king]]

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rich yew
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[[Dan lewis]]

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rich yew
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[[Third doctor]] looks good if you're going into tokens

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rich yew
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Most e-cost reducers are in boros, unfortunately

outer gale
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the amount of ramp that could be done and the artifacts that can be played in that amount of time is monsterous

rich yew
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[[Fourth doctor]]

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rich yew
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Ok, would definitely add a [[jahiera, friend]] as well as other things that let tokens/food tap for mana (free equips)

rare escarpBOT
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No card found for “jahiera, friend”

rich yew
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[[Jaheira, friend of the forest]]

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rich yew
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Also a few red creatures that reduce equip costs onto themselves

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[[Fervent champion]] [[strong back]] and some phyrexian I can't remember

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rich yew
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Then would go into food synergies to fill out the rest.

outer gale
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i plan on getting strong back in this deck need to figure out what to kick for it tho

lean garnet
gilded zodiac
gilded zodiac
rich yew
gilded zodiac
lean garnet
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@rich yew They frequently use The Mindskinner and Mothman so yea lots of mill, thornbite lets me play my full library with ashnods altar I’m curious what it would do with death touch? But I can definitely cut those others! Thank you for the tips! Anything about land? Idk if 30 is enough and I don’t have the dough for multitudes of the expensive lands

rich yew
lean garnet
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Awesome! Thanks for the info I appreciate it!

topaz lily
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Hey yall wanted some advice or recommendations on my creature choices for my Etali deck (the godzillas are there cause l'd like to use them but I'm not against replacing them) https://archidekt.com/decks/19737427/copy_of_wrath_of_the_ancients

Archidekt

Etali, Primal Conqueror // Etali, Primal Sickness - Commander deck

(1) Commander • (25) Creature • (3) Draw • (4) Enchantment • (36) Land • (8) Protection • (1) Pump • (11) Ramp • (9) Removal • (2) Tutor

dim garden
last bolt
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hot holly
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can anyone help me fix my manabase for this deck?
can never hit my colors

timid lichen
summer roost
summer roost
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This is officially the final build and I wpuld love some feed back before construction begins

hot holly
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But would prefer to not be “that guy” you know?

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So like no fetch lands or anything ridiculous but just a better mana base

cunning heart
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what you think is the best pairing for [[sydar kondo of jamuraa]] voltron using battle tricks effects?

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cunning heart
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im thinking either [[kediss]]

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cunning heart
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or [[tymnia]]

topaz berry
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tribal matrix
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So I played my [[!Hidetsugu and kairi]] deck and it was immediately hated when i forced the board to sacrifice 6 creatures each and blasted someone for 6+ damage. after that it was a bruiser of a deck. Taigam is great in this deck imho for just letting you get secondary casts of those spells.

tribal matrix
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i almost feel like draw effects are not necessary in this deck if you can regularly copy Hidetsugu, especially when some of your bombs are just filling your hand

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what do you guys think?

timid lichen
# hot holly So like no fetch lands or anything ridiculous but just a better mana base

I would say fetchlands may not necessarily make you 'that guy', and would work really well with your shocklands and triome. That said, there are cheaper alternatives. You are fairly heavy in green, that would allow you to play Three Visits/Nature's Lore as additional ramp that can get your shockduals. In addition to those, I'd advise picking up some of the hybrid filter lands. Sunken Ruins, Twilight Mire and Flooded Grove.

hot holly
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so recently I got called a "closeted blue player" during a commander night with my pod which I thought was funny
however it gave me an idea
what if I made the most blue non blue deck possible?
https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid&order=edhrec&page=4&q=(oracle%3Acounter+oracle%3Atarget+oracle%3Aspell)+commander%3AWBRG+(game%3Apaper)+prefer%3Abest&unique=cards
after looking there are roughly 24 cards that say "counter target spell" that arent in blue
what commander would fit this idea?
i need as much non blue counter spells as possible so perferable a 4 color commander

topaz berry
# hot holly so recently I got called a "closeted blue player" during a commander night with ...

There's a ton of control in other colors.
Red has redirect effects which let you counter along with tibalts trickery and the stuff that counters only blue spells.
White is more stax, hexproof, and indestructible. I do like Reprieve a lot.
Green is also more like combat tricks and hexproof. I can't think of green counterspells.
Black is like imps mischief and that's about it.
Colorless has like one counterspell and that Eldrazi that let's you counter by discarding something of exactly equal mana value.

hot holly
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I wanna make a deck that isn’t blue but has blue characteristics

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Draw, evasion, bounce spells, scrying and counter magic

timid lichen
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Wernog/Elmar would allow you to do 4 colors and abuse the artifact clue theme that blue would do so well.

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[[Wernog, Rider's Chaplain]] and [[Elmar, Ulvenwald Informant]]

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timid lichen
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Plus some untapping/blinking too.

hot holly
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Also [[sidar kondo of jamuraa]]

timid lichen
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Yeah, there is just no really fitting black/red partner. So you'd miss out on a color.

topaz berry
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Yeah, I think the above two are your best bet. Others are more combat focused

topaz berry
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timid lichen
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Yeah, just not very blue

hot holly
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I saw that and thought the same

topaz berry
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It's just some added value

hot holly
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Ive also thought maybe i could find ways to recur

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[[planar chaos]]

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topaz berry
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I don't think a 50% to counter a spell is really worth it. It's a funny casual card I suppose

hot holly