#Deck Brewing General

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wooden breach
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Idk what else you want lol

long oar
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reread your comments. you just kinda sound rude tbh, and arrogant, also somewhat ignorant despite me saying this is my first deck.

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I appreciate your help.

grizzled bloom
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This deck needs helps

dusk dagger
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I need two more cuts for [[Celestial Toymaker]]

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Rogue Artificer
Whenever The Celestial Toymaker attacks, look at the top three cards of your library. Exile any number of them in a face-down pile and the rest in a face-up pile. Defending player chooses one of those piles. Put that pile into your hand.
At the beginning of each end step, each opponent loses 2 life for each spell or ability that caused one or more players to guess or to group cards or permanents into a pile this turn.
2/4

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bold rune
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Anyone got a [[Cloud, Ex-soldier]] list that Focuses on Job select, For Mirrodin and Living weapon equipment? Wanting to find more to add more to my own

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onyx ice
young phoenix
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not trying to get involve or start a war, but isnt asking for help basically open to opinion on what to do with the deck direction? I can understand that sometimes social interaction through messages could be interpreted awkwardly and neither side had the best attitude either,,,

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looking at the list. i believe i find a lot of things that need cut. whenever you want to hear any of that is up to you

young phoenix
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whatever powerlevel you plan on playing at, being hellbent is usually not going to be fun

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and after getting around the issue on card advantage, it will probably circle back to why aura isnt a popular strategy; due to how easy it is lose everything thing put onto a single/few creatures

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you will probably want [[swiftfoot boots]] for bare minimum protection

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young phoenix
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minor things, not hard to fix

tame fossil
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got a start on upgrading my Y'shtola precon
the only things in my Sideboard I don't currently own are Arcane Denial and Curiosity, both of which will be in the mail next week
I'd like to refine the manabase a bit more, just not sure what to grab aside from Shocks, Fetches, and another couple Verges for it

I know there's more I could do, but I'm both fighting my budget for it and unsure what else to look for.
("unsure" insofar as "there's many lists I could reference, but can't decide what to prioritize")

https://archidekt.com/decks/13910560/ffxiv_upgraded

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Y'shtola, Night's Blessed - Commander deck

(1) Commander • (14) Artifact • (19) Creature • (5) Enchantment • (17) Instant • (37) Land • (7) Sorcery

feral sapphire
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I wanna make a deck that involved spamming out all the lands than make them all come alive and kill the whole board. Is there a good commander that let's me do that? So far the "best" one seems to be the partners of [[kamahl heart of]] and [[akroma, vision of]] but if there's a better one please let me know

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Human Druid
At the beginning of combat on your turn, creatures you control get +3/+3 and gain trample until end of turn.
mana1manag: Until end of turn, target land you control becomes a 1/1 Elemental creature with vigilance, indestructible, and haste. It's still a land.
Partner (You can have two commanders if both have partner.)
5/5

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Legendary Creature — Angel
Flying, first strike, vigilance, trample
At the beginning of each combat, until end of turn, each other creature you control gets +1/+1 if it has flying, +1/+1 if it has first strike, and so on for double strike, deathtouch, haste, hexproof, indestructible, lifelink, menace, protection, reach, trample, vigilance, and partner.
Partner
6/6

mortal fable
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Hear me out, with this pride event pair [[ramos dragon engine]] with [[zenos, yae galvus]] and have tutors for [[door to nothingness]] and a lot of removal spells

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Human Noble Warrior
My First Friend — When Zenos yae Galvus enters, choose a creature an opponent controls. Until end of turn, creatures other than Zenos yae Galvus and the chosen creature get -2/-2.
When the chosen creature leaves the battlefield, transform Zenos yae Galvus.
4/4

Shinryu, Transcendent Rival
Legendary Creature — Dragon
Flying
As this creature transforms into Shinryu, choose an opponent.
Burning Chains — When the chosen player loses the game, you win the game.
"The heavens are too small a field for our dance. Let us transcend this mortal coil!"
8/8

onyx ice
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Moxfield auto selected bracket 4 idk why

tawdry glade
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Mass land denial is automatically bracket 4

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Remove liliana and its b2

cursive snow
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I got a pantlaza precon and I was wondering how I should upgrade it? I’m still new to the game so I’m not great with cards

glass thorn
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Hey ya’ll - anyone playing [[Kresh the Bloodbraided]]?

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feral sapphire
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Anyone built [[noctis, prince]] as an equipments deck? And if so any really spicy includes that make it fun?

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Human Noble
Lifelink
You may cast artifact spells from your graveyard by paying 3 life in addition to paying their other costs. If you cast a spell this way, that artifact enters with a finality counter on it.
Many sacrificed all for the King; so must the King sacrifice himself for all.
4/3

young phoenix
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lot of hoops to make use of its raw power, unless you are doing ozolith then you can do more broken things by keeping the counters even if when it goes away

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note that while it gets bigger, it looks for power of the creatures that dies... meaning that -X/-X wouldnt work

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unless everything is like a [[!force of savagery]]

young phoenix
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hmmm maybe it is a gorgori deck where you want [[unnatural growth]] and gravepact. I dont know if those belongs in the list

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long kiln
grizzled bloom
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Thoughts on my newest deck?

heavy meteor
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I usually play at Bracket 3, and last game a player called me out for my combo. Even though the combo required 3 cards,
Mind you this was him swinging at me for lethal after killing 1 player and the other quit.

glass thorn
glass thorn
young phoenix
young phoenix
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deck doesnt look b3 but it is possible it can fight against 3

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burn decks sometimes get good match ups

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and the low to the ground curve means you can get there pretty fast

glass thorn
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I was playing bracket 2 - no infinite it was more just an engine . I had Birgi on the field, goblin anarchomancer and Blanka on the field, I cast a past in flame so I was just getting mana value and casting from my small graveyard and from hand plus cantrips

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There wasn’t even a 4 card combo just value engines I guess

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But he called it a combo deck because it was synergistic

young phoenix
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if anything i think it is the birgi /storm kiln problem

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near infinite mana

glass thorn
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Sometimes it does nothing cause I don’t get the draw I need

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Oh yeah storm kiln wasn’t on the field but

young phoenix
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exact that

glass thorn
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I get what you mean though

young phoenix
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same thing same card but different

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insert "is this a birgi" meme

glass thorn
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Ah hahah okay

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Cause I just took it into a bracket 3 and the “bracket 3” jodah went off way quicker then Blanka

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Turn or 4 was way too many legendaries

young phoenix
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i think bracket 3 is just more consistent

glass thorn
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Yeah I reckon

young phoenix
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and the game plan

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burn when your opponent have much higher life total than other format in itself

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is a less optimal strategy

glass thorn
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Yeah for sure

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Thanks heaps for your help

young phoenix
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Np

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I really want my own Blanka/or the unvierse within version deck

rich yew
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@outer gale What are you looking for with your deck? It looks like a great start. The only immediate cut I could find was [[Dovin's dismissal]]-unless you need it.

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rich yew
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To find the planeswalker

outer gale
rich yew
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Ok. Prob want to swap it for a path to exile or something cheap when you can

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Do you do tutors?

outer gale
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i don't really see anywhere tutors would go persay, in what i can see given what the deck is based around

rich yew
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[[Urza's saga]] and [[loyal inventor]] can help get the best case artifact for any given game

rare escarpBOT
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Enchantment Land — Urza's Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter. Sacrifice after III.)
I — This Saga gains "manat: Add manac."
II — This Saga gains "mana2, manat: Create a 0/0 colorless Construct artifact creature token with 'This token gets +1/+1 for each artifact you control.'"
III — Search your library for an artifact card with mana cost mana0 or mana1, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle.

rich yew
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Sol ring/altar of the brood for urzas

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Would also drop Alquist Proft if you dont have any more ways to get clues or mass colored mana

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I ask because playing with tutors does make you have to memorize your deck somewhat and some groups don't like them.

outer gale
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wouldn't mesmeric orb be better to get rid of then brood, and do i produce enough mana to get rid of sol ring?

rich yew
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You get it on the battlefield from your deck

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Mesmorb costs 2, so you can't get it with urza

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Oh you mean cuts

outer gale
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ye

rich yew
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I would keep all 3

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Cause you got so many mill+ replacement effects a ton of ping mill is prob better than mass mill.

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Mindcrank would go before any of those

outer gale
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so with your thinking what 2 cards do you think i should drop to have those tutors? i have alquist cause with 2 investigate counters can give me a bunch of mana and cards if i need them

rich yew
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Still Proft. He only makes one clue and he can't use it when you play him. I personally don't like talisman of progress, urza'd be a good swap there

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Up to you- I know Urza's is $$

outer gale
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i play on tabletop sim don't ever plan to own this deck, and even if i did id have to save up a considerable sum to buy it anyway

rich yew
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What game

outer gale
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Tabletop simulator

rich yew
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Oh lol

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Ill have to look at that

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I use cardboard

outer gale
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well i added those two tutors, hopefully ill know what to look for cause i can get grind stone and painter's servent with the other

rich yew
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Heh [[Tundra]]

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rich yew
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Okie-

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Im sure there are some x cost draw spells too if you wind up missing the outlet

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Just not the Proft, trust

outer gale
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understandable, now i need someone to playtest the darn deck and tell how it is in play, cause i know ill goof up but thats life

rich yew
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I have tabletop, but it's not installed.

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And Im at work 😦

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But would

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Ill just do the goldfish

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Dunno how to make a token on this

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Good luck with this, gonna loiter elsewhere. Maybe play later?

outer gale
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i apprecaite the help, and possibly

outer gale
young phoenix
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while authority of the consuls is in no way a bad card... its life gain doesnt really matters for your commander since its not on your turn 99% of the time

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although with the stall and [[felidar sovereign]] direction you are going, i guess its enough synergy

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young phoenix
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i dont see it being a mill out type of win most of the the time

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[[Ghirapur Orrery]] feels odd. is there a specific thing you are trying to do here? like baiting the table to draw more?

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ashen lance
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Any suggestions for a don andres theif commander deck? On a budget also

lime moss
bold rune
frail grove
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I pulled a Vivi, but I don’t want to just do the regular old Vivi deck, comboing off really quickly, I want to do something unique- any cool ideas? I’m also open to having niv mizzet parun or visionary as a commander (I own both) but I want a unique idea rather than generic counterspells and burn spells

young phoenix
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all izzet spells in the deck?

frail grove
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Maybe

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My friend gave me the idea of doing balmor battlemage captain as the commander

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Turn it into a green deck XD

surreal wadi
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With the new change to Vehicles being your commander has anyone brewed much yet?

I was looking at doing a blue artifiact affinity deck with The Prima Vista as my commander to start.

young phoenix
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[[balmor battlemage ]]

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young phoenix
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[[The Prima Vista]]

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feral sapphire
deep snow
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Hello!
Could I get some help on my Serima deck?
Goal is to use Fortune to Blink Serima and eventualy get a flipped Venat with a helm of the host attached
https://archidekt.com/decks/14179414/venat

Archidekt

The Seriema - Commander deck

(1) Commander • (4) 0-Special Cards • (1) Blink • (1) Copy • (1) Counters • (6) Creature • (9) Draw • (1) Evasion • (38) Land • (1) Lifegain • (3) Protection • (12) Ramp • (6) Recursion • (13) Removal • (3) Tokens

alpine tendon
twin flame
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https://archidekt.com/decks/12088041/astarions_vampire_harem_and_the_creepy_third_wheelers_that_look_at_you_from_across_the_room - Looking to remove 6 cards from this and add 6 tutors. Not sure where to start. (Already have the tutors in mind)

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Astarion, the Decadent - Commander deck
Lifedrain • Lifegain • Vampires
(1) Commander • (1) Burn • (12) Drain • (6) Draw • (1) Finisher • (35) Land • (13) Lifegain • (3) Protection • (12) Ramp • (2) Recursion • (10) Removal • (2) Stax • (2) Tokens
"I've been dead in the ground for long enough. It's time to try livi...

silent matrix
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Do yall think it’s worth it to run exotic orchard in a rakdos deck? I don’t have enough good dual lands that enter untapped and don’t want to just run basics to fill the difference. You think the odds of playing against 3 players that one of them has red or black is pretty good?

old turret
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Whats a good amount of lands and ramp for a landfall deck as a base line??

Like small big Rampspells and so on.

Thanks : )

left quail
olive trench
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But its still in its early phases so any tips will be appreicaited

ruby grotto
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hey guys i am still kinda new to magic i have played only for couple of months now and recently i discovered yuriko i am really intrigued about her and i would like to make a deck around her. i made a skeleton of the deck, still not sure about the whole deck building i thing the synergy or consistency may not be there, still i want to keep it kind of budget to not splash out a ton of money for the deck maybe upgrade in future. i would be very happy if someone could maybe give me some insight or help me with this deck. https://archidekt.com/decks/14320308/yuffie

Archidekt

Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow - Commander deck

(1) Commander • (3) Bounce • (1) Burn • (1) Discard • (13) Draw • (12) Evasion • (3) Finisher • (32) Land • (3) Protection • (5) Ramp • (1) Recursion • (19) Removal • (3) Tokens • (3) Tutor

mental nova
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Not sure if i should ask this here or in general but what would be the cheaper option of upgrading out of scrappy survivors or science! Precons

prime seal
livid charm
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Ordered a copy of [[Rikku]] the other day, now I just gotta figure out where to fit it in my Grixis Proliferate deck lol (https://archidekt.com/decks/88461/the_phyrexian_undead)

Thinking of maybe cutting Body Launderer for it? At the very least, I'd prefer to be cutting a 4-drop I think

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Marchesa, the Black Rose - Commander deck
+1/+1 Counters • Proliferate • Sacrifice • Fling
(1) Commander • (10) Card Advantage • (9) Counter Value • (32) Land • (2) Mass Disruption • (5) Payoff • (1) Poison • (14) Proliferate • (10) Ramp • (3) Recursion • (6) Sac Outlet • (6) Targeted Disruption • (1) Token Maker

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solid pecan
bold rune
tardy linden
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at a glance, did you not include your planned manabase? I only see mountains and a couple rocks

bold rune
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Overall that list is just a rough draft, definitely is gonna need work. 40 mountains is just there as a place holder until I figure out what 40 lands I think would be good for it

round hatch
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How would you guys build this custom commander?

left quail
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Well its a deterent type of command

young phoenix
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[[shared fate]]

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young phoenix
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card draw are based on APNAP

round hatch
young phoenix
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if you want more chaos [[share the spoil]]

rare escarpBOT
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Enchantment
When this enchantment enters and whenever an opponent loses the game, exile the top card of each player's library.
During each player's turn, that player may play a land or cast a spell from among cards exiled with this enchantment, and they may spend mana as though it were mana of any color to cast that spell. When they do, exile the top card of their library.

young phoenix
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cast trigger my favourite [[possibility storm]] synergy

rare escarpBOT
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Enchantment
Whenever a player casts a spell from their hand, that player exiles it, then exiles cards from the top of their library until they exile a card that shares a card type with it. That player may cast that card without paying its mana cost. Then they put all cards exiled with this enchantment on the bottom of their library in a random order.

young phoenix
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you essentilly have "chaos spellslinging enchantress"

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where you cast no cards from hand and either go hellbent or [[stock up]] type of avoid "draw"ing cards directly

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young phoenix
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[[noxious revive]] can be casted by any player from shared fate but the top deck is going to another player in order for them to "draw" that card

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young phoenix
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going some dandan card counting mind game in multiple player

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counterspell of choice include [[remand]]

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young phoenix
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or the one that return the spell to the top deck

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end with [[memory journey]] to get extra cast trigger value or just dodging cast from hand directly

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young phoenix
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note that some of those spells with no downside will basically either never resolve properly

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or the player with the least priority will have the best option

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since everyone gets a copy of their choice

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if 4 copies of a... say path to exile on the stack, but only 1 legal target, then 3 copies will fizzle

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so there is no reason to make those copies

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in a way

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but with more legal target, some could fizzle and some could target new things

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lot of mini sub games involve

young phoenix
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and if you dont do a lot of those things, you want to consider how to avoid getting targetted [[repeal]] is a removal/protection that has to pick a specific mana value

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young phoenix
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your opponent can target the same thing you pick to make your spell fizzle but if used in respond to a board wipe, then they may want to save their own instead

young phoenix
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otherwise... 30 instant sorcery from 4 decks will be drawing a total 120 cards

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and up to 90 copies worth of spells

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its lowkey disguised group hug with chaos stapled to it

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🏃‍➡️ gl

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one more, forgot about it [[display of power]]

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young phoenix
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you can design the rest of the 99 weak enough or somehow not work by doing this type of thing

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more spells on the stack = more copy and spells that naturally cannot be copied

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done yapping... for now

feral sapphire
long kiln
left quail
feral sapphire
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Mantle can't grab a important creature that died

left quail
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Fire and ice with balisk collar is ur best removal

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Could do single combat

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Probably the best Voltron removal

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Dump frodo

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Imo he commander is a secondary option given the decklist, gonna struggle getting the equipment you want. I'd grab fighter class

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Take the wastes out and put in basic plains and mountains or you'll struggle with getting both colors each game

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Id dump something for aetherspark

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It's a goated equipment

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Id dump blitzball

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Aetherspark also lets you draw

feral sapphire
feral sapphire
feral sapphire
left quail
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Sideboard tho

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Main deck it

feral sapphire
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And cloud lives

left quail
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True

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Only on your turn tho and he's expensive

feral sapphire
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All board wipes in boros is sorcery speed. Aka my turn. Aka doesn't matter

left quail
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There's 1 instant speed board wipe

feral sapphire
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And it isn't really a wipe [[cloud limit break]]

left quail
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And it has utility

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left quail
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[[final showdown]]

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left quail
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Under rated commander card

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It's possible to use it in cedh decks just for the 2 drop ability

feral sapphire
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Ah

left quail
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[inventory management]]

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[[inventory management]]

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feral sapphire
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I need cuts not additions

left quail
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Cut cid

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Cut nihiri

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Cut stroke of midnight

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Cut Dragonfire blade

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Cut Loxodon Warhammer

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Ur not a sunforger deck so cut

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Cut lightning security sergeant

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Consider cutting commander plate

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White is the removal ur worried about and ur in it

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Plenty of swords that are more efficient

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Better offensive utility too

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[[brotherhood regalia]]

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left quail
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Add

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I'd cut akromas will

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All the side board instant soceries is going towards a sunforger type build

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If you want to wide equipment go with the blue white commander that flys imo

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Go*

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Id cut aldebert

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Cut commanders sphere

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Put in the talisman instead

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Cut wealth and power

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Again, not a spell slinger deck

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[[tarrian's soul cleaver]]

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left quail
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Is an option to not be open

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[[into the fire]]

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left quail
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[[faithless looting]]

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left quail
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[[kellan]]

rare escarpBOT
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Multiple cards match “kellan”, can you be more specific?

left quail
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[[kellan, the fea blooded]]

rare escarpBOT
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No card found for “kellan, the fea blooded”

left quail
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[[kellan, the fea-blooded]]

rare escarpBOT
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No card found for “kellan, the fea-blooded”

left quail
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[[kellan, the fae- blooded]]

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young phoenix
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[[Fire and ice ]] doesnt work with deathtouch

rare escarpBOT
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Multiple cards match “Fire and ice”, can you be more specific?

young phoenix
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all the swords are triggers ability ON the equipment

narrow wyvern
round hatch
left quail
young phoenix
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it is fire and ice, so at worst, it still draws cards

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i am never a big fan of that card for both mechanics and price tag

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flavour and art, i like it

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i think the lifegain+deathtouch are too good to pass on. unless both ability are not needed i would not cut balisk collar

left quail
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In my lightning deck basalisk collar is still good because of first strike and deathtouch then

young phoenix
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its just really efficient abilities on a repeatable equipment for its mana cost

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the amount of attacks it keeps away and life you can get from it is well worth the mana

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i would say at least 20 life on an average game if it was the reason why you didnt get attacked

old turret
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Hello Everyone,... Anyone Got Any Idea

What archetype of deck i could build with Altanak, the Thrice-Called?

And ofcourse i sadly know that its main synergy card isnt of use here **Say Its Name
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Would love to hear if you got an idea on how i could take the deck!

Wish you all a very sweet day!

plush swallow
rich yew
# old turret Hello Everyone,... Anyone Got Any Idea What archetype of deck i could build wi...

By the comment on say it's name, I assume you're making a commander deck. Only deck I could think of that takes advantage of Altanak itself is getting infinite mana, then getting [[spelunking]] or [[amulet of vigor]] and getting infinite landfall+sacrifice with [[command beacon]] you may need some graveyard protection/yoinks to protect the beacon and some landfall payoffs to close out the game manag

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rich yew
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Doesn't have to be unlimited mana if you have the right landfall. Specific land tutoring will also be useful

static reef
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which one for 5 mana?

[[galaxy, astral hunter]]
[[goldlust triad]]
[[Goldspan dragon]]
[[rapacious dragon]]

rare escarpBOT
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No card found for “galaxy, astral hunter”

static reef
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[[ganax, astral hunter]]

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opaque geyser
rich yew
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rich yew
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Over another land, obviously

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Also making sure you know the opponent can choose to double the damage they take before adding the additional

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Fate unraveler can go, too much mana for what it does. Sophim doesn't work well with your other damage buffs (if you ping for one with him and torbran, the opponent will choose to double then add for 4 instead of add then double for 6)

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Ob also doesn't like his 1 damage being touched, he could still be good though if he gets big

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Monastery swiftspear should go

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Harsh mentor unless you play against some weird combo players (me)

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Thats all I got for now

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Fate unraveler, Sophim, M Swifty, and H mentor

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Ob is not bad. Life loss won't be buffed and... huh... it triggers off of other players' damage. And he's a flying trampler. snapEmo

deep snow
opaque geyser
quiet marsh
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For standard

silent matrix
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working on upgrading a [[willowdusk]] deck, do y'all think its good praxis to run phyrexian mana cards with her so that i can cast a spell, pay life, then add counters that turn? or focus on the tried and true 'pump the deck full of lifelinks, swing, add counters on main phase 2 to someone else as a blocker, rinse repeat alternating for a tall aggro deck'

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silent matrix
# bold rune Thoughts on this Valgavoth list? Trying to make something to compete with the we...

mayhem devil aint great unless you have a built in sac outlet you can work around imo, i run a valgavoth pretty regularly and you have a lot of the staples i include, though mine is more voltron focused. once valgavoth is out you gotta prepare for him to be removed because he only gets worse for other players. untimely malfunction is definitely a good pick to counter that targeted removal, but some auras or artifacts that return him to the field or give more protection is great. lightning greaves which i see you have is a welcome choice. fellwar stone can be replaced tbh. conquerors flail is an interesting pick but im not sure +2 max for this deck plus interrupt on your turn is worth it. im not certain of the synergy offered by grab the prize is either, considering its not damage on the enemies turn. could always use it to discarda big guy for disentomb or such, but i dont see many recursion effects either. i ran spiteful visions for a long time, myself, but with so many other ways to deal damage to players /without/ giving them more gas in the tank, i found it put me in more hot water than i got benefits from with my own draws. that being said, it all depends on the pod and who youre against. a combo deck would be debilitated by this. additionally, blood artist's lifegain is completely countered by rampaging ferocidon. now, it may be because i run valgavoth in a voltron-y way but i took ferocidons out and added both expedition map and witch's clinic so i can get the much needed lifelink necessary to be a big threat at the table when valgavoth is out

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proud echo
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"Slapped" together an Ultima, Origin of Oblivion deck this week. It had a good showing on Friday but now to wait for cards to come in to flesh put the rest of the deck.

https://archidekt.com/decks/14498483/ultima

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Ultima, Origin of Oblivion - Commander deck

(1) Commander • (2) Artifact • (2) Burn • (3) Copy • (3) Counters • (1) Creature • (18) Draw • (2) Evasion • (2) Finisher • (38) Land • (1) Landfall • (3) Protection • (3) Pump • (8) Ramp • (3) Recursion • (4) Removal • (5) Tokens • (1) Untap

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And you might look at Mono Colorless and think "Great, another Eldrazi deck, but I assure you the only Eldrazi in there is Breaker of Creation"

lilac stream
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After [[Reanimate]] and [[Animate Dead]], what's the next best cheap reanimation spell that can cheat a big dragon out of the graveyard?

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Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature card in a graveyard
When this Aura enters, if it's on the battlefield, it loses "enchant creature card in a graveyard" and gains "enchant creature put onto the battlefield with this Aura." Return enchanted creature card to the battlefield under your control and attach this Aura to it. When this Aura leaves the battlefield, that creature's controller sacrifices it.
Enchanted creature gets -1/-0.

static reef
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[[overpowering attack]] or [[full throttle]] in a [[ureni of the unwritten]] agro deck

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slim raft
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lilac stream
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Ooh, stitch Together looks good, gotta see how often I can get threshold

timid girder
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question on average if im running slime against humanity and dragons approach in a deck how many of each should i run 10-15 of each?

rich yew
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And prob more important what dragon are you getting

timid girder
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Legendary Creature — Time Lord Doctor
Allons-y! — Whenever you attack, exile cards from the top of your library until you exile a nonland card. Put three time counters on it. If it doesn't have suspend, it gains suspend.
Timey-Wimeymana7: Time travel three times. Activate only as a sorcery. (For each suspended card you own and each permanent you control with a time counter on it, you may add or remove a time counter. Then do it two more times.)
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Legendary Creature — Human Advisor
Impossible Girl — If Clara Oswald is your commander, choose a color before the game begins. Clara Oswald is the chosen color.
If a triggered ability of a Doctor you control triggers, that ability triggers an additional time.
Doctor's companion (You can have two commanders if the other is the Doctor.)
2/6

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Besides SAH

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im mostly trying to build a spellslinger/storm deck and ive a few copies of both from over the years so im just trying to see if i can get a deck made around chain casting them a bunch will work if its a lost cause its no issue ive just never ran a deck with the can have any number cards

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Dual-tribal is really hard to build well without a commander that can help both simultaneously.

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If you want to keep the colors and like the doctor stuff I recommend [[the twelfth doctor]] for slimes against humanity. Any copies opponents make will be 0/0's (assuming they had no oozes) Clara works, but some other green doc's companions could be better.

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Dragon's approach wants to exile 5 copies at a time, and you need to get 4 in your graveyard for it to work. Focus on either burn or self mill/rummage dragon cheating

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No fewer than 15 copies if you want to have a chance at 2 dragons a game. At least 20 would consistently get you at least one fairly early on (especially if you have good draw+discard outlets)

quiet marsh
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Hey question from my non discord friend. Is there a standard comparable for Torrential Gearhulk - Kaladesh (KLD)

rich yew
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[[Torrential gearhulk]]

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rich yew
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No flash and a mana limit, but hits sorceries too

quiet marsh
rich yew
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I storm off with those otters in [[orvar the allform]] >:3

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rich yew
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No storm, just many otters

modest moss
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General thoughts on this one?

rich yew
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That kind of deck doesn't have the support it needs yet I think. You at most will get two counters (three with a +1 effect) per cast, and many of your artifacts are colorless. It's a hard fix. Ethersworn sphinx is the best card for this idea.

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You should add ways to find your affinity Tezzeret and maybe some colored alternatives to a few of your colorless spells

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I would build Ramos cascade, but I understand if you aren't interested in that

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5c affinity contradicts itself

ocean junco
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In a mono green big creatures deck, would you run more mana dorks or spell based ramp? I'm afraid of my dorks getting board wiped before I can cast all my big creatures, or wiped with my creatures with no way to rebuild. But with so many big creatures, my board will be basically empty until later in the game making me the blood bag of the table

modest moss
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There's 12 cards not counting the modular land that give counters, and 3 of the best ones are artifacts so they're easy to find with the amount of artifact pod effects im running

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There's also a number of infinite Loops using scrap trawler, myr retriever, and something like Arcbound ravager

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The main reason for using ramos, is that he can benefit from Affinity from mycosynth Golem, in addition to the Planeswalker and the new Sami, so there's a lot of Loops I can do with that as well

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There's also chains like scrapyard recombiner into either brightglass gearHulk to grab the ozilith and one of the XX cost artifact creatures, or if I don't have the colored Mana right away, just snag the marketback walker

With either the ozilith or Blaster in play that can usually lead to a win

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The recombiner can sacrifice itself to put two counters on Ramos right away, and if I have Blaster out, it enters with an additional counter and puts 6 immediately on Ramos

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The only thing I'm not happy with really, is how inconvenient it is to tutor robots given how many of them are in the new set, but that's what all the artifact pod effects are for

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Also my early game color fixing feels a little weak

rich yew
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Lands. You need more.

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I run minimum 35 in 2 color decks.

modest moss
# rich yew I run minimum 35 in 2 color decks.

With the amount of ramp that I am running, I don't feel like I need more lands necessarily, but maybe different ones? It's not that I don't have enough Mana for things it's rather that I just don't have all the colors that I need consistently in the first two to three turns

rich yew
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I still think the gearhulks could be triomes/duallands at least

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Sorry, besides cutting a couple nonlands for triomes I don't have much.

modest moss
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I was really tempted to add a chromatic lantern, but I'm already so high on three drops

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The only reason I'm not running more shocks or triomes is because I don't have enough room to also add the fetches

rich yew
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That's the best stuff to get with fetchlands tho

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Kill some things with double pips and replace them with slimmer versions or more lands.

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Also I only came back to recommend CrLantern

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Double pips as in UU, not RU

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Looking to use[[Spider-Man Noir]] as my commander I'm having trouble finding cards that can put +1+1 counters on him. So I asked you people of MTG deck Brew what are some cards that I could use any help would be greatly appreciated.

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hardy fulcrum
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any ideas for treasure commanders in rakdos
safana looked interesting but then i saw that she doesn't give you the initiative herself and got sad

hushed vale
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elfin horizon
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so i’m joining a budget league where the theme this season is “kindred”. we need to make a kindred deck under $27 but it can’t be one of the top 15 kindred types on EDHRec.

Any fun kindreds to build that aren’t super represented? I have a [[Duskana]] bear deck I can cut to make under $27 but wanted to think about other things

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Legendary Creature — Bear
When Duskana enters, draw a card for each creature you control with base power and toughness 2/2.
Whenever a creature you control with base power and toughness 2/2 attacks, it gets +3/+3 until end of turn.
"A pale bear shall herald the rise of the old gods." —Gruul prophecy
5/5

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Hydras

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Specifically [[Polukranos Reborn]]

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Legendary Creature — Hydra
Reach
mana6manawp: Transform Polukranos Reborn. Activate only as a sorcery. (manawp can be paid with either manaw or 2 life.)
Freed from the Underworld, the World Eater resumed his endless feast with reckless enthusiasm.
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Polukranos, Engine of Ruin
Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Hydra
Reach, lifelink
Whenever Polukranos or another nontoken Hydra you control dies, create a 3/3 green and white Phyrexian Hydra creature token with reach and a 3/3 green and white Phyrexian Hydra creature token with lifelink.
6/6

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that rules

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i was thinking about running sphinxes with [[yennett]] or Walls with [[Thantis]]

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rich yew
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Quite a few good colorless options as well

elfin horizon
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hydras and horses both sound fun

rich yew
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They made a bird hydra and a lizard hydra. Horse hydra would be freaky but cool. White or boros hydra horse 🐎

tribal matrix
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https://archidekt.com/decks/14956317/niko_flickering trying to make a stax/control flickering deck. using Nikos shards to make copies of big problems to end the game. plays pretty good so far in goldfish? any suggestions for some end game cards or funny stuff to flicker in azorius?

Archidekt

Niko, Light of Hope - Commander deck

(1) Commander • (2) Artifact • (8) Combo • (10) Draw • (4) Finisher • (16) Flicker • (37) Land • (9) Protection • (6) Ramp • (4) Removal • (3) Stax

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wanted something that would work without the commander, but benefits from their abilities

rich yew
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gusty herald
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No card found for “corpse blossom”

rich yew
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[[Corpse bloom]]

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No card found for “Corpse bloom”

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Heck. I forgor

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[[Bitterblossom]]

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rich yew
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[[Promise of Aclazotz]]

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gusty herald
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My first time building a deck so im trying to get a good balance

rich yew
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Better start than I had. Might toss some more ideas at you in a bit.

gusty herald
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Cool I appreciate the help!

rich yew
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[[Collector's vault]] [[Reckoner Bankbuster]] [[skullport merchant]] are a few great repeatable draw/cycle cards that make some treasures on top

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rich yew
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[[Fell]]

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lime moth
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I did it

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I combed through my list of bulk and found that I'm only 20~ cards short of playables for Edgin

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I'm going to cannibalize Osgir and see if there's any cards there

elfin horizon
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Building a budget commander deck around [Yennett] that is sphinx based with a bunch of high mana payoffs like Patgrazer of Ulamog. What are some Esper instants/sorceries that I should put in at lower mana costs to support getting the commander and big fellas out?

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[[yennett]]

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native sparrow
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do you have a preliminary list?

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otherwise you might accidentally get recommendations for cards you already considered

elfin horizon
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Right now it’s basically just Blur, Essence Flux, and Opt. I’m starting by building a “this could work” list that will be way over budget ($27) and card amount (100) and then paring down from
there

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it’s 140 cards right now but obviously will pare down

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the only constraints are the $27 budget and that it needs to be “sphinx based” (we are all doing lesser used tribals)

elfin horizon
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all of the “esper staples” pages i’ve seen list things like mox diamond and fierce guardianship and rhystic and bowmasters

native sparrow
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one card that isnt on here that i really like as a ramp spell is [[Copy Land]]

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elfin horizon
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oooh nice

deep snow
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How would you feel playing against this deck?
I am looking for a new deck and want opinons on how it would feel to play against this deck.

Goal is to get 8 mana (4 land 4 treasure) on turn 4 and cast a cascade spell to go from there.

I play fast so I am not worried about cascade

https://archidekt.com/decks/14960750/guild_artisan

Archidekt

Guild Artisan & Wilson, Refined Grizzly - Commander deck

(2) Commander • (1) Burn • (19) Draw • (1) Finisher • (43) Land • (2) Protection • (1) Pump • (13) Ramp • (4) Recursion • (12) Removal • (1) Tokens • (1) Tutor

bold rune
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Been loving the Counter Intelligence precon, gonna keep building around [[Inspirit, Flagship Vessel]] for it

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Legendary Artifact — Spacecraft
Station (Tap another creature you control: Put charge counters equal to its power on this Spacecraft. Station only as a sorcery. It's an artifact creature at 8+.)
STATION 1+
At the beginning of combat on your turn, put your choice of a +1/+1 counter or two charge counters on up to one other target artifact.
STATION 8+
Flying
Other artifacts you control have hexproof and indestructible.
5/5

bold rune
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Strong choice maybe not but i just adore it for some reason

bold rune
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Updated from the precon

dusk dagger
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Anyone on cEDH Hearthhull?

rich yew
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[[Infiltrator lens]]

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rich yew
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[[Basalisk collar]]

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rich yew
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The opponent with the most life typically has a decent defense by turn 3

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keen temple
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I’ve decided I want to make one of these two for my next Boros commander, not sure which one to pick though. Anyone have experience or opinions?

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Obviously one is Boris Big Noncreatures and the other is more tokens focused, although I can see artifact reanimation being strong too for Field Historian

crimson compass
outer gale
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hello wonderful people, can i have one of you look over my decklist and see if its ship worthy?

rich yew
outer gale
glass stag
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Hi guys, I'm looking at building a deck with [[barrowin of clan undurr]] as the commander. Of course, itll contain all the venture cards but I'm wanting to do a Cleric subtheme, what are everyone's favourite Cleric creatures?

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bold rune
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Working on a [[Kros, Defense Contractor]] deck

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Legendary Creature — Cat Advisor
At the beginning of your upkeep, put a shield counter on target creature an opponent controls.
Whenever you put one or more counters on a creature you don't control, tap that creature and goad it. It gains trample until your next turn. (Until your next turn, that creature attacks each combat if able and attacks a player other than you if able.)
2/4

bold rune
dusk dagger
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Let's brew Zuko

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Big mess of a pile atm

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Legendary Planeswalker — Tamiyo
+1: Choose up to two target creatures. Until your next turn, whenever either of those creatures deals combat damage, you draw a card.
−2: Tap up to two target nonland permanents. They don't untap during their controller's next untap step.
−7: Draw three cards. You get an emblem with "You may cast spells from your hand without paying their mana costs."
Loyalty: 4

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Legendary Creature — Cat Advisor
At the beginning of your upkeep, put a shield counter on target creature an opponent controls.
Whenever you put one or more counters on a creature you don't control, tap that creature and goad it. It gains trample until your next turn. (Until your next turn, that creature attacks each combat if able and attacks a player other than you if able.)
2/4

rich yew
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No card found for “Adrian, Gorian's”

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Instant
Exile all nontoken creatures you control, then roll a d20.
1—9 | Return those cards to the battlefield under their owner's control at the beginning of the next end step.
10—20 | Return those cards to the battlefield under their owner's control, then exile them again. Return those cards to the battlefield under their owner's control at the beginning of the next end step.

rich yew
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[[Abdel adrian]]

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bold rune
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Anyone up to help with my Kros deck?

nocturne hull
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Am I able to get opinions on a deck if I post the link here?

wooden breach
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Ye

sage horizon
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Hey all, I am working on my combo deck. I want to put [[Tibalt's Trickery]] in my deck I don't know what to cut. Any suggesstions?
https://moxfield.com/decks/fNL24Eo18kaq3RuoI70ejQ

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drifting stump
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rich yew
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Actually could use more of both Cats and Dads

nocturne hull
glass robin
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I am new to Commander and looking for help building my first deck. Where should I go to get advice?

rich yew
rich yew
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glass robin
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The leading contender is Gandalf the White.

nocturne hull
rich yew
# nocturne hull why have i not seen this card before

There are a lot of cool untap creatures. This is the only legendary one, and I think there aren't any artifact creatures. [[thousand year elixir]] [[unwinding clock]] there's another one that taps two artifacts to untap one.

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rich yew
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Ioreth is a bit slow without haste, but definitely underrated imo

edgy slate
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Yo guys i m tryina build my first commander, i have 2 precons (Dr Who Daleks and Terra) and ordered some singles, Commander will be Isshin, any suggestion on what to put in?

dapper glacier
bold rune
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The swords are common includes as well [[sword of fire and ice]] [[sword of war and peace]] [[sword of feast and famine]] etc..

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nvm it's a damage trigger, mb

rich yew
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I would also slot in more multi-mana rocks to make your untap combos more available. [[thran dynamo]]

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rich yew
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Seems almost too strong? definitely emphasize your reliance on the graveyard before playing.

rich yew
# bold rune https://manabox.app/decks/1QSoarJMTCirlNyH7qg_jQ From what I was told previousl...

Maybe cut Basri Ket. Lulu doesn't allow the creature to attack because it will be tapped, would be better if it was a may, but mana to proliferate is good. Sheltering ancient is cute and good-keep it. I would drop the talismans for land ramp, but that's a personal preference. D Verdict can probably go? won't your opponents have counters too? Have you considered [[cankerbloom]] [[flux channeler]] [[Tromell, Seymour's butler]]?

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edgy slate
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  • white auracite, sephirot s intervention and overkill from ff and like 2 from dr who
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I was also thinking about 1 or 2 boardwipes like wrath of god, Farewell or the one with 3 colors

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As for the equips idk i have the boots but i wanted something not too expensive, ima check the sword u said

rich yew
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[[split up]] is good if you plan to swing out on the regular

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rich yew
edgy slate
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tho if the myryad tokens death trigger his effect is not such a bad idea

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given that isshin doubles them

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also dark ritual shouldn t be a bad idea

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also do u know some 1/2 cost mana rocks aside arcane signet?

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i m also playing lightning and the white cloud

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Trying to do something with this. The deck is a lot of looting and artifact tutors, how does it win?

bold rune
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rich yew
edgy slate
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You do need something to sac creatures to

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At instant speed

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[[Phyrexian altar]]

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bold rune
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Looking for more stuff for [[Inspirit, Flagship Vessel]] mainly stuff with p/t = how many artifacts I control type effects. So far it's got 5 like that: [[Bronse Guardian]], [[Thousand moons smithy]], [[Simulacram Synthesizer]], [[Machinist Arsenal]] and [[Mendicant core, Guidelight]]

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Legendary Artifact — Spacecraft
Station (Tap another creature you control: Put charge counters equal to its power on this Spacecraft. Station only as a sorcery. It's an artifact creature at 8+.)
STATION 1+
At the beginning of combat on your turn, put your choice of a +1/+1 counter or two charge counters on up to one other target artifact.
STATION 8+
Flying
Other artifacts you control have hexproof and indestructible.
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Legendary Artifact
When Thousand Moons Smithy enters, create a white Gnome Soldier artifact creature token with "This token's power and toughness are each equal to the number of artifacts and/or creatures you control."
At the beginning of your first main phase, you may tap five untapped artifacts and/or creatures you control. If you do, transform Thousand Moons Smithy.

Barracks of the Thousand
Legendary Artifact Land
(Transforms from Thousand Moons Smithy.)
manat: Add manaw.
Whenever you cast an artifact or creature spell using mana produced by Barracks of the Thousand, create a white Gnome Soldier artifact creature token with "This token's power and toughness are each equal to the number of artifacts and/or creatures you control."

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Legendary Artifact Creature — Robot
Mendicant Core's power is equal to the number of artifacts you control.
Start your engines! (If you have no speed, it starts at 1. It increases once on each of your turns when an opponent loses life. Max speed is 4.)
Max speed — Whenever you cast an artifact spell, you may pay mana1. If you do, copy it. (The copy becomes a token.)
*/3

edgy slate
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Aslo, today i played some Davros, still super fun

steady isle
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Am I right to assume the second one is the better deck?

hardy fulcrum
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How many planeswalkers do yall normally put in your superfriends deck

glass robin
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I am a new player. My play group has challenged me to play a quicker deck that wins using combat damage, since I generally like slower, controlled combo wins. However, I think that this is probably too strong. Technically, it is Bracket 2, but it does not seem to play like it. I am looking for feedback on if my gut reaction is correct.

rich yew
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Unless you have her as a backup commander and a replacement card

glass robin
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Ohhh, I thought it had to be her being cast, my b

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It counts

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Ok. Looks answerable. Slicer tends to draw a lot of agro, and your creature count is low. They should be able to deal with you if they band up and ignore Slicer for a couple turns.

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Are there any wierd combos I'm missing? If not it should be good for 2 I think.

glass robin
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whats a good way to make sure the deck im building isnt way stronger than i want it to be?

rich yew
# blissful mantle whats a good way to make sure the deck im building isnt way stronger than i wan...

Generally, if you're new and facing experienced players, it shouldn't be a problem. It comes with practice too. Ask to play with decks others have made. Learn what you do and don't like about certain play patterns. This goes for all constructed games. Be forgiving; understand if you flood on lands that it may not happen the next game and shuffle well!
Another way to know if you're trying too hard in commander is to look at the bracket system and game changers. Look it up. Ask what your group plays and see if you need to match their league.

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Or just post a deck list here ;P

rich yew
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Enchantment Land — Urza's Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter. Sacrifice after III.)
I — This Saga gains "manat: Add manac."
II — This Saga gains "mana2, manat: Create a 0/0 colorless Construct artifact creature token with 'This token gets +1/+1 for each artifact you control.'"
III — Search your library for an artifact card with mana cost mana0 or mana1, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle.

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Sorta $$ tho

rich yew
rich yew
# edgy slate given that isshin doubles them

For clarity: Isshin doubles attack triggers, not triggers of attacking creatures. The only Sephiroth triggers that would be copied are Fabled SOLDIER's sac on attack and Fallen Hero's counter placement trigger. The drain effect itself will never be copied by Isshin.

bold rune
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Legendary Creature — Human Artificer
When Urza enters, create a 0/0 colorless Construct artifact creature token with "This token gets +1/+1 for each artifact you control."
Tap an untapped artifact you control: Add manau.
mana5: Shuffle your library, then exile the top card. Until end of turn, you may play that card without paying its mana cost.
1/4

bold rune
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[[$urzas saga]]

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rich yew
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May be too good. Depends on how and where you use it.

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Some people use it as an infinite mana outlet and cast their deck

blissful mantle
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ive played a lot of commander and ive built a few decks so far, what i struggle with isnt playing the game its building decks that arent too strong for my playgroup

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thats why i was asking

bold rune
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I MIGHT grab saga, thinking maybe 5 of those effects I'm looking for is a decently good amount, especially with 2 being repeatable

rich yew
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blissful mantle
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only creatures and lands is a good one but i already have a deck with that restriction and it happens to also be my strongest deck 💀

rich yew
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Mmm

bold rune
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I once saw a dude at my locals with a deck but all his creatures had 0 Power

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Aside from that the whole thing was Bounce and Lifegain

blissful mantle
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thats a really cool gimmick

rich yew
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Those decks are (0)powerhouses tho

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They use toughness as their power

bold rune
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Oh no, it was purely a gimmick deck, dude literally never attacked

rich yew
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Oh

bold rune
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Just block, Bounce and got life

blissful mantle
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i really like companions in commander because they already have built in restrictions, but the deck i wanna build is mono red and theres no mono red companion

bold rune
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Funnily enough, he was the main guy keeping Atraxa off field

blissful mantle
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commander but only cards whose name starts with 'M'

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i chose m so i could play mountains

rich yew
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Mountain

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Mountain

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Mountain

bold rune
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Maxtraxa

rich yew
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Murza's Saga

bold rune
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Do a full cycle of those decks

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"What deck did you bring?"
"My P deck"
"A what deck?"

blissful mantle
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there's about 200-250 cards in red that start with M

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so i guess that would be barely enough for a deck

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i guess it could be myr tribal xd

rich yew
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Huh

blissful mantle
bold rune
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[[Myr Battlesphere]]

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rich yew
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Monstrous rage

bold rune
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You can use the almighty Myr ball

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Kinda tempted to remake Bello but add in tribal stuff since everything he animates becomes an elemental

rich yew
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Cool

bold rune
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Ye, have roaming throne double trigger stuff it normally cant

blissful mantle
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i realized i was only looking at creatures. theres actually closer to 400 cards in the red color identity that start with the letter M

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so that restriction could actually probably work funnily enough

rich yew
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What do you search to find that

blissful mantle
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commander:R (game:paper)

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and then sort alphabetically

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xd

rich yew
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Hmm

blissful mantle
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anyway, ill go schleep now, ill think about it later, bye

rich yew
edgy slate
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I think playing signet sol ring and 2/3 talisman is enough right?

rich yew
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Maybe, idk lol

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Would have to see the whole manabase

edgy slate
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I also plan on putting white auracite and catch a fish

rich yew
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Good ones

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Oh yeah, don't forget chromatic lantern

edgy slate
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Fun thing is i decided to build isshin cuz i love the lightning proxy but i usually play commanders that have the green

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I don t have it T_T

rich yew
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Mmm

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Is ok, we make due

edgy slate
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I ll play tainted Field and tainted mountain

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And maybe i have a couple trioms

rich yew
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Those are good if you have'm. Command tower, exotic orchard, path of ancestry are all pretty standard.

edgy slate
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Yeah precons have them

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Good thing terra precon has isshin colors so i can modify it with him

bold rune
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My kros deck came in today, got to play around with it a bit mainly just needs card draw

narrow wyvern
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anyone here play rocco street chef? - looking for cut suggestions for sylvan safekeeper and possibly generous pup/rosie cotton!
https://moxfield.com/decks/eZhNMpUEe0aolZbpFJWDdA

also curious on folks thoughts about [[mindless autmaton]] vs. [[caretakers talent]]

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silent matrix
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Oops wrong channel

blissful mantle
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how many basic/dual lands do you usually run in a 2 color commander deck?

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i think if its all basics, thats too many basics, but you probably dont need nearly as much of dual lands as you do in 3 color decks ye?

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dusk dagger
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Updated my list a bit. Norin stays, but I'm not trying to build a secret commander with him

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Rocco does it way better so the Norin support is cut for now

young phoenix
# blissful mantle how many basic/dual lands do you usually run in a 2 color commander deck?

i like at least 1/3 non-basics, try to keep tapped lands below 5 if you dont want to get stuck with tapped mana when you need to play an untapped, otherwise having tapped mana turn after turn can still scale just fine. i have played basic ramp in a 3 colour deck where i had about 30 basics (after half are forest) and it worked just fine with a few mana fixing ramp. no hard rules, just what you can get and personal perference. there are people with like 2 basics in a 2 colour deck, which imo is greedy af

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1/3 would be like 13 non basics, 20ish basics and a few utility maybe colourless mana source

blissful mantle
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i think 30 lands is too little unless you play an extremely aggressive deck

young phoenix
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36+/-2 is my usual land count

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the 30 i mentioned was alll basics

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it was like 6 non basic lands

blissful mantle
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oh

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i see

young phoenix
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yeah, 30/36 XD i was too lazy to fix that land base for a one time test deck

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it was a 3 colour deck with green ramp

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too oppressive so i took it apart within a week or two

blissful mantle
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i guess ill shooot for 23-25 of each mana symbol

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and then just put in as many non basics as that entails

young phoenix
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afk

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ideally, do the math on mana symbols and colour ratio

north glen
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Hello

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I’m a xyris player

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I’m trying to figure out on what card to remove to add 8 cards in total and that is Runehorn Hellkite, Garruk’s Uprising, fires of yavimaya, overwhelming denial, Oversimplify, Banefire, Nezahal, Primal Tide and finally OBLITTERATE

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I known one of the card gonna be remove is naga Flesh for Nezahal

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But for the other I don’t know

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I need help on deciding on what card to remove from my deck?

young phoenix
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[[OBLITTERATE]]

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young phoenix
# north glen I’m trying to figure out on what card to remove to add 8 cards in total and that...

first of all, idk your pod/LGS avg power level/bracket etc, judging from the deck alone... i think it is an amalgamation of pet cards around snakes & serpent. since the 99 only have so much room, you will have to make cut depends on what you need the most. if you increase the avg mana cost, you may end up needing more lands, or play around card draw, but the point is that you can never add everything you want without taking something else away, even if it is another pet card

north glen
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a pet card?

young phoenix
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[[hexdrinker]] for example, can you elaborate why this is in the deck?

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north glen
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a 1 card mana that can be dangoures in early game

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I useally bump it up on on a couple of turn

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but mostly I like snakes

young phoenix
# north glen but mostly I like snakes

you play it because you like it, the rest doesnt matter as much since the fun you get from it outweight the cost and reward of the card in the game, i would call it a pet card in this case

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i play tons of bad cards in my decks, but i can only put so many in a deck before it no longer function well in a game, so there is a limit of how many i can build into a deck

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its not even competitiveness anymore if my deck doesnt work

north glen
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I see

young phoenix
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i havent finished the deck but i will be putting toward a [[progenitus]] commander with [[gyruda doom of depths]] as companion, with the high mana cost and card restriction, it means i will have to find wants to get as many lands and mana fixing in order to play anything at all. decks with lower mana curve usually dont have that same issue and every deck can supposedly run a sol ring

rare escarpBOT
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manawmanawmanaumanaumanabmanabmanarmanarmanagmanag
Legendary Creature — Hydra Avatar
Protection from everything
If Progenitus would be put into a graveyard from anywhere, reveal Progenitus and shuffle it into its owner's library instead.
The Soul of the World has returned.
10/10

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Legendary Creature — Demon Kraken
Companion — Your starting deck contains only cards with even mana values. (If this card is your chosen companion, you may put it into your hand from outside the game for mana3 as a sorcery.)
When Gyruda enters, each player mills four cards. Put a creature card with an even mana value from among the milled cards onto the battlefield under your control.
6/6

young phoenix
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also, restrictions breed creativity, so i think it is fine if you want a card in a deck, but you have to evaluate the reasoning behind the card or it would just be a pile of a mess

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i dont own a hexdrinker, if i could put it in a deck, i would probably already be running [[loading zone]] or some other counter/proliferate synergy in the deck

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young phoenix
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and since i usually play at a local "meta" where it is "fair magic" with combat focused decks and nearly no combo wins, i want to keep my creature count somewhat high enough to attack and block, but not a total blow out against a single board wipe

grizzled forge
north sandal
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Hey everyone!

I'm hoping to group-source some ideas for what to cut from my Isshin list.

( https://archidekt.com/decks/15498179 )

I have some of the cards already (Isshin, Shadowfax, Shock Brigade, Dalkovan Packbeasts, Nightblade Brigade, Zurgo's Vanguard, Bone-Cairn Butcher, and Mardu Siegebreaker) and unless they really don't work, I'd like to keep them to reduce the purchase price of the deck and use some fun cards that don't have homes right now.

Any advice or suggestions are welcome and appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

Archidekt

Isshin, Two Heavens as One - Commander deck

(1) Commander • (2) Anthem • (4) Burn • (1) Copy • (3) Counters • (3) Drain • (7) Draw • (3) Finisher • (35) Land • (1) Lifegain • (8) Protection • (1) Pump • (12) Ramp • (2) Recursion • (13) Removal • (18) Tokens • (1) Tutor

wraith onyx
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cooking a mono-black discard deck for european highlander (its more of a mono black midrange but oh well)
Is it worth it to run the more staxy cards or should i just play more goodstuff? (winter moon, tergrid, infernal darkness, etc.)

floral tapir
thin crest
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Looking for some players opinions - would I be disingenuous calling this a bracket 3 deck?

https://moxfield.com/decks/Xj1khOAfdkCebURirNIMzA

I know MM'menon is pretty strong on his own and is often compared to Urza, I intentionally tried to avoid going really heavy on the whole cheerios thing though, really I built this more because I wanted to make a dumb artifact aggro deck that could use Virulent Silencer well, that evolved into even sillier antics making a spaceships aggro deck, so it literally runs every spacecraft except the Elevator dude that just makes tons of mana, but in general the whole deck was built more with "space vibes" in mind than power. That being said, it does play cost-reducers, Senseis Top, and a fair amount of artifact tutors (that I always use to get fun stuff like big spaceships or Blood Forged Battleaxe) so I just dont want people to feel that I've been dishonest if I use the 3 card combo of Mm'menon + Top + reducer later in the game.

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theres also Prologue to Phyresis + Radstorm in the deck, do people consider that a 2-card combo even though it also requires a high storm count?

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i wouldnt be opposed to calling it bracket 4 at all but if so I'd probably add some of my fast mana and a couple more, stronger, counterspells if so

gilded horizon
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Heya folks! Any pioneer heads willing to help me with a home brew? It's got potential, but finding the consistency is the key.
That, and I'm not super up on the meta rn, so my sideboard picks may be whack.

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Cheers!

lament cipher
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Looking to update my [[kona, rescue beastie]] deck, but im out of card ideas. Just need easy ability doublers and good creatures

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elder lagoon
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[[worldspine wurm]]

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hot holly
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So I just thought about a wheel reanimate commander deck

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but what would be the best commander for it?

halcyon herald
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Im looking for some insight. Ive built this deck trying to play stronger level of edh, but i dont know where to go from here?

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its bracket 4 i think im spreading myself too wide in what ive got in the deck maybe going for less different combos more so focus on certain combos to win? (like removing the stell lee combos, even though some of the cards feel good with cormela because theyre just net 2 mana and cycle)

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im stuck because i could start proxying and try to bring her into cedh or i could focus more on her and play less generic stuff and make her a solid bracket 4

dark void
mental ice
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I built [[raffine scheming seer]] as a reanimator deck with a sizeable number of wheels, I would recommend

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woeful jetty
granite meteor
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Hey everyone! New here but posted the 3 decks I am working on in their own thread. I have already ordered two of them, but still pending play testing and editing.

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wraith onyx
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Well, just finished drafting an aetherdrift Quick Draft.
any tips on what to cut so that the deck fits the plan better?

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(green cards have indeed been removed, yet the problem still stands ;-;)

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..Help would be appreciated.

wraith onyx
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I am in great suffering

wraith onyx
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Im begging somebody please assist me What do I cut from this draft deck im at a complete loss

wraith onyx
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Thanks for the help id say

granite meteor
outer gale
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found out something dumb, its possible to run a myraid tribal deck if you run a 5 color commander, and some how its very funny

vagrant dagger
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Any fun cards to try with [[Mr foxglove]]?

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vivid lily
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decided that im gonna scrap my incomplete 5c ezio assasin pile for 5c spideh ur spider/cosmo spider

sterile basin
dusk dagger
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Looking for some input on [[Kraven the Hunter]]

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dusk dagger
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Hunting down the big creatures of our opponents

undone wolf
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Hello, I also want to get your thoughts on my Kuja deck. Thanks

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outer gale
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wonderful people of deck creating i need help and to see if this vision gets made and finished and tweaked if need too but i think this can work very well https://archidekt.com/decks/15871479/kuja_the_dumpster_diver

Archidekt

Kuja, Genome Sorcerer // Trance Kuja, Fate Defied - Commander deck

(1) Commander • (1) cm kuja number 2 • (7) Creature • (5) Enchantment • (14) fast damage • (35) Land • (7) protection • (5) returning power • (6) Sorcery • (4) The salvagers • (1) token copier

hushed vale
dusk dagger
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Made some small changes to Kraven

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Tags are enabled

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Help is appreciated

devout radish
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I just finished sleeving a Mono-Red Voltron deck headed by [[Raubahn, Bull of Ala Mhigo]] .

I did a few goldfishes and I really can see this deck going absolutely the f off

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undone wolf
fickle hornet
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Hey all! I run a runo deck I love and I’ve been trying to add in some stun counter control to it to let me creatures swing in. But that sub strategy is inconsistent right now. Here is the current stun/ tap package I run

outer gale
bold rune
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Doing sumthin wierd with [[Terra herald of hope]], idk why but I settled on human tribal for her

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bold rune
undone wolf
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Enchantment
Whenever a player casts a spell from their hand, that player exiles it, then exiles cards from the top of their library until they exile a card that shares a card type with it. That player may cast that card without paying its mana cost. Then they put all cards exiled with this enchantment on the bottom of their library in a random order.

undone wolf
lime moth
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https://archidekt.com/decks/15918575/_scarlet_spider_maximum_spider_
Somewhat pleasantly surprised how symmetrical this is

Archidekt

Scarlet Spider, Ben Reilly - Commander deck
Commander Matters • Sneak Attack • Stompy • Aggro
(1) Commander • (1) Anthem • (3) Bounce • (1) Burn • (9) Creature • (10) Draw • (1) Evasion • (2) Finisher • (37) Land • (6) Protection • (18) Ramp • (2) Recursion • (6) Removal • (2) Sorcery • (1) Tokens
I like Ben ...

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I put some Cheat into Play stuff here to ape-Peter's schtick

north glen
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so dumb question

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is there a card that act like made in heaven

bold rune
plain mural
nocturne hull
glass badger
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beginner Question:
is there some possibility on moxfield or edhrec or any related site to sort by % of cards owned?
Because a lot of the decks are very hard to build for myself given ... well ... I am a beginner and I kind of like having to build with what I got.

wooden breach
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Honestly? Do that

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I've put together like, 3 new decks based on cards I just found fitting around in my collection. Once those are put together, you can register them on Moxfield as part of what you own

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Then when you look at a new deck, it should tell you which cards you have and don't have

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Like dis

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Blue check is "You have that specific version", gray check is "You have this but a different version"

glass badger
# wooden breach Like dis

hm I guess I can then use this feature to look up interesting decks in general and them compare against my collection.

hushed kernel
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Hey yall. I am wanting to build a rule zero (I'd be breaking two rules) commander deck with Chandra and nissa as commander partners. My question to yall is two fold: Which Chandra and Nissa do you think pair well? And is there a reliable way to search for cards with art featuring particular characters? Looking to fill the deck with cards featuring the girls.

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Oh, I'm also trying to keep it bracket 3 or lower. Don't want to also power creep a deck that is already violating commander rules.

wooden breach
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Having nissa means being in green so you already have creature tutors there

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It really depends on what kind of cards you're searching for

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While Chandra is only red, Nissa has 2 versions that are 2 colors: [[Nissa of Shadowed Boughs]] and [[Nissa Steward of Elements]]

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Legendary Planeswalker — Nissa
Landfall — Whenever a land you control enters, put a loyalty counter on Nissa.
+1: Untap target land you control. You may have it become a 3/3 Elemental creature with haste and menace until end of turn. It's still a land.
−5: You may put a creature card with mana value less than or equal to the number of lands you control onto the battlefield from your hand or graveyard with two +1/+1 counters on it.
Loyalty: 4

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Legendary Planeswalker — Nissa
+2: Scry 2.
0: Look at the top card of your library. If it's a land card or a creature card with mana value less than or equal to the number of loyalty counters on Nissa, you may put that card onto the battlefield.
−6: Untap up to two target lands you control. They become 5/5 Elemental creatures with flying and haste until end of turn. They're still lands.
Loyalty: X

wooden breach
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I'd recommend one of those two, as those give you the most amount of tutors to work with, especially Shadowed

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As for pairings for these 2 nissas, for Shadowed there's a lot of synergy with discarding, so [[Chandra Ablaze]] has you covered.

Steward gives you blue, free creatures, and scries for some topdeck fun. All of this can be easily abused with [[chandra flameshaper]]

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Legendary Planeswalker — Chandra
+2: Add manarmanarmanar. Exile the top three cards of your library. Choose one. You may play that card this turn.
+1: Create a token that's a copy of target creature you control, except it has haste and "At the beginning of the end step, sacrifice this token."
−4: Chandra deals 8 damage divided as you choose among any number of target creatures and/or planeswalkers.
Loyalty: 6

hushed kernel
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I think you may be misunderstanding me. I'm not looking for the most tutors. I was wanting to search the internet for cards with Chandra or nisss on them. I'd like to feature them on as many cards as possible.

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Regarding the color pairing, I would prefer either of the the two color nissas, but I'm still open to ideas there.

wooden breach
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Ohhhhhhhhhh okay okay my mistake

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Ah here we go

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Go on scryfall and use art:chandra and art:nissa

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Pulls up every card with the lesbians on them

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This changes my thoughts on pairings a little. I still think the pairings I chose earlier are the best ones for those versions, but for the best pair of them all...

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[[chandra hope's beacon]] + [[nissa who shakes the world]]

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Legendary Planeswalker — Chandra
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, copy it. You may choose new targets for the copy. This ability triggers only once each turn.
+2: Add two mana in any combination of colors.
+1: Exile the top five cards of your library. Until the end of your next turn, you may cast an instant or sorcery spell from among those exiled cards.
−X: Chandra deals X damage to each of up to two targets.
Loyalty: 5

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Legendary Planeswalker — Nissa
Whenever you tap a Forest for mana, add an additional manag.
+1: Put three +1/+1 counters on up to one target noncreature land you control. Untap it. It becomes a 0/0 Elemental creature with vigilance and haste that's still a land.
−8: You get an emblem with "Lands you control have indestructible." Search your library for any number of Forest cards, put them onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
Loyalty: 5

wooden breach
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Arts depict them being super powerful and they have passive abilities that complement really well

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As long as your lands are forests, they add an extra green, so [[yavimaya cradle of growth]] goes hard

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wooden breach
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Essentially, Nissa ramps you up, and Chandra uses that ramp for big juicy spells

hushed kernel
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bold rune
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Wait shit clicked the wrong channel

strange coral
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If I play [[unstable experiment]] when it says up to one target creature connives can I choose 0 creatures?

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tribal spear
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i have a deckbuilding question. I want to make a bracket 3 deck but im worried about having "early game" 2 card infinite combos. Im not sure exactly what that means or whether I would have to remove cards that are just generally good in the deck to avoid the situation. two that have come up are toralf + blasphemous act (how early it is is situational to how many creatures are being played) and another is boros reckoner + take up the shield (needs damage to activate, does that make it a 3 card combo because it doesnt go infinite without it or is it two card because I can swing and if it gets blocked use the instant to get infinite lifegain). Either way, even outside of the combos I would want those cards in the deck. What do you guys think?

dark void
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perfectly fine in b3

tribal spear
dark void
tribal spear
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fair enough. at the same time i can see how it would be annoying if someone got infinite lifegain on turn 4. its not like I would be running tutors for the combo or anythign

dark void
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brackets are all about vibes and intent

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if ur rly concerned u can just take out toralf

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i dont know what ur commander is

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but personally i wouldnt worry about it too much

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if u notice ur getting some feelsbad games from playing the cards u can always take them out later

tribal spear
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yeah thats true, its for firesong and sunspeaker so toralf is like one of the best cards in the deck lol

dark void
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yeah ur 100% fine

exotic path
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@young phoenix do you mean of a commander deck?

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Sure, here is one

young phoenix
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is that 40 lands

exotic path
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yes

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8 MDFCs, but 40 lands total

young phoenix
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do you have one with no MDFC

exotic path
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Id always run MDFCs in basically any deck that could unless its 5 colors

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the untap MDFCs basically cost nothing to put into most decks

young phoenix
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it cost $

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and they can be land OR spells

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so it doesnt help with the 40 lands point you are trying to proof

exotic path
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exactly, they are dynamic, and let you hit 40 lands while having spells when you have excess

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It does, because when you need a land they are a land

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and most come in untapped if you need it down early

young phoenix
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i mean, if you want to bring a gun to a fist fight, no one is going to stop you

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and you will probably win that fight

exotic path
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My point has always been that the existence of MDFCs, channel lands, cycling lands, Final Fantasy lands, and strong utility lands makes it very easy to up your land count to 40+, and there is very little drawback to do so with them now.

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Flooding is offset by strong utility lands and you limit your chances of mana screw

young phoenix
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otherwise, you would need say "play 40 lands, but with 8 MDFCs"

exotic path
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I mean MDFCs are lands

young phoenix
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not just "every deck need to run 40 lands"

exotic path
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they do though

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Would you calsl this a 0 land deck?

young phoenix
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thats not 100 cards singleton

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where we going

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dont play modern, no idea why there is a basic in sideboard, maybe when they get path'ed by the opponent?

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well, to get the point across, i think you need to show a deck that has lands, that can only be played as lands, and still doesnt get consistently flooded

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not every deck is going to be playing fetches just because they are the best in the game

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not every deck can have T1 ramp nor a T2 play unless they are using 2 drop mana rocks

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green with [[bird of paradise]] is the colour identity with the luxury of being one turn ahead of others on an avg game

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young phoenix
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so most non-green, limited-budget deck are stuck with ramp that are referred as "hot gabage" like that article stated

exotic path
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there are tons of utility lands that have multiple functions, why would you deliberately not run them?

exotic path
young phoenix
young phoenix
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you didnt say "you need to play MDFC"

exotic path
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MDFCs = lands

young phoenix
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and we didnt even get to a point of time where MDFC lands with no downside wasnt a thing

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so this wont get anywhere

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i think it will be hard for you to convince most players to put 40 lands in the 99. and i dont need to explain why i think that

crystal wasp
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anyone know a good list for a budget mono black zombie deck?

young phoenix
crystal wasp
# young phoenix what kinda of budget? commander?

yup, commander! and as for budget, i think maybe around 150-200? i already have a dimir zombie precon that i upgraded by im taking apart for this and it'd be nice if the deck list had some or even a lot of the cards from my deck to save some money haha

young phoenix
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oh ic

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i usually build from scratch and look for the most bulk/ fun janks i can find

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but without the knowledge of a huge card pool it will be a lot more difficult

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there is [[gissa the hell raiser]] which isnt too hard to build

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Legendary Creature — Human Warlock
Ward—mana2, Pay 2 life.
Skeletons and Zombies you control get +1/+1 and have menace.
Whenever you commit a crime, create two tapped 2/2 blue and black Zombie Rogue creature tokens. This ability triggers only once each turn. (Targeting opponents, anything they control, and/or cards in their graveyards is a crime.)
4/4

young phoenix
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zombie isnt exactly a strong/well supported archetype imo, but with a few good zombie card/ core power house, it is still decent at doing something

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liliana planeswalkers usually mentions zombie on them somewhere

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while the low cost thingys are more for combos

crystal wasp
young phoenix
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hmm

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since there are hardly any mono black precons, i dont think you can use the exact cards to get a full deck

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lot of recent zombies go into esper colours as well

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if you see multi colour zombie deck, you can narrow it down to cards that can be played in mono black and draw inspiration from there

deep wedge
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Anyone willing to look at my villain reanimator deck?

undone wolf
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I want to make [[Jon Irenicus, Shattered One]] and [[Kira, Great Glass Spinner]] work, how? Is there a card that bypasses Kira's counter?

rare escarpBOT
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Legendary Creature — Elf Wizard
At the beginning of your end step, target opponent gains control of up to one target creature you control. Put two +1/+1 counters on it and tap it. It's goaded for the rest of the game and it gains "This creature can't be sacrificed." (It attacks each combat if able and attacks a player other than you if able.)
Whenever a creature you own but don't control attacks, you draw a card.
3/3

young phoenix
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as simple as [[lightning greave]]

rare escarpBOT
dark void
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lightning greaves just doubles the problem

dark void
young phoenix
rare escarpBOT
dark void
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So any equipment works right

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like paradise mantle

young phoenix
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yes, just that the greaves are the infamous ones

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i am sure kira as a commander would also suggest something on edhrec

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the equip that triggers nadu is probably dropped back down in price

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what are the things that arent worth mentioning

young phoenix
cunning spoke
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I need help

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Anyone got a spacecraft deck

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Preferably the 5 colored spacecraft in a deck that cares about spamming them

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I kinda ignored eoe and now i gotta scramble and slowly grab some piece for my eventual star fleet deck

dark void
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not that many of them

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u can basically just make a functional 5c artifact list with infinite guideline station at the helm tho

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and just include all the space crafts u want

cunning spoke
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Thnks

cunning spoke
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For now put all the loader tokens and spacecrafts that looked decent into my save for later list

strange coral
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If I play [[unstable experiment]] when it says up to one target creature connives can I choose 0 creatures?

rare escarpBOT
young phoenix
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yes, in some older cards, sometimes it is done not just to avoid the scenario where there are no legal targets, it gives the option of not giving a spell any necessary target so it can never fizzle, in case all of it's targets are removed

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"up to" means "0 or more"

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the irony of "unstable" experiment is meant to be super stable in the game in case where it can fizzle, it also targets the player as well

sand oracle
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Help. I want to build a [[slime against humanity]] deck, but I have decision paralysis with which commander to use. 😵‍💫

rare escarpBOT
wooden breach
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I like using [[kutzil malamet exemplar]] to draw cards and keep counters away from slimes

rare escarpBOT
wooden breach
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Could also go [[umori the collector]] and lower the cost of your sorceries

rare escarpBOT
wooden breach
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That plus [[locket of yesterdays]] brings the cost down to just 1 green

rare escarpBOT
wooden breach
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A really funny one is [[chatterfang squirrel general]]

rare escarpBOT
wooden breach
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Cause when you make a slime, the counters go on the slime AND the squirrel token

sand oracle
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Yeah. Replacement Effects™ are silly things. It's a good spot for cards like Slime cause it makes chatterfang go kinda crazy

sand oracle
# wooden breach Yeah. Replacement Effects™ are silly things. It's a good spot for cards like Sli...

I'm mostly torn between:

  • Katilda and Lier: The flashback synergy is really good and the irony of a Humans Matters commander playing "Slime Against Humanity" is just peak design.
  • Umori, the Collector: The avatar of the namesake card, synergizing perfectly with both the cost reduction of 30+ sorceries, and comboing with black extirpate effects.
  • Illuna, Apex of Wishes: The combo commander. Exile a chunk of cards, hit a combo piece, and now all your ooze cast for more going forward. If the commander ever dies, suddenly a spare ooze is lethal commander damage.
  • Flubs, the Fool: An oddly synergistic commander that gets to also play with all of Illuna's toys.
  • Storm, Force of Nature: Another very synergist commander that gets all the RUG toys.
  • Shalai and Hallar: This is probably the most powerful commander.
  • Kutzil, Malamet Exemplar: This is probably the most under rated commander.
  • Sovereign Okinec Ahau: The Yang to Kutzil's Yin.
  • Jinnie Fay, Jetmir's Second: This is probably the most interesting commander.
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A common theme I'm noticing is you like RUG

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That trims down decisions quite a bit

sand oracle
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I kind of want to steer away from "need the commander out to work and the commander is a threat" so that pushes me away from Storm, Force of Nature, Shalai and Hallar, Sovereign Okinec Ahau, and Jinnie Fay, Jetmir's Second.

Umori, the Collector feels like it'll rarely die, but it's kind of expensive and slow to deploy. Katilda and Lier also has that slow set up vibe.

Flubs, the Fool feels a bit faster, enabling discarding oozes so the first one is larger than a 2/2 and enabling ramp right out the gate. It feeds into itself and lets me play with many of the cards I like in Illuna.

Illuna, Apex of Wishes feels too good. Maybe it's fine, just ramping into the best part of the deck right away, and the 7-10 permanents can give the deck variety. But it could also get stale fast.

Kutzil, Malamet Exemplar is hard to remove, unassuming, but kind of slow to set up.

CHATTERFANG... I hadn't considered that. Are two oozes for the price of one worth playing this instead of anything else?

sand oracle
wooden breach
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That narrows things down to Flubs or Illuna since you're being pushed away from Storm

sand oracle
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I think if I want variety, Flub might be the way to go. And if I want consistency, Illuna might be the way to go.

wooden breach
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And which one do you want more? Variety or consistency?

sand oracle
wooden breach
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Well then how about this: Come up with a 99 you like and go from there

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You're in RUG so you're gonna be using one or the other without changing card colours anyway

sand oracle
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Heck, I could build both. There's probably going to be a LOT of overlap in the 99, and it might just be 20ish cards different between them,

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What are your thoughts on the other commander options for Slimes?

wooden breach
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I personally think the best variants are the ones that let you clown around with your graveyard, since Slime doesn't care if they're in graveyard or exile

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[[tasigur the golden fang]] comes to mind

rare escarpBOT
sand oracle
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My friend would hate me if I played Tasigur, lol. We just convinced him to pick another commander because it was a BUG good-stuff deck that really didn't do anything except play 20 game changers.

sand oracle
wooden breach
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One of my buddies has a modern deck that does that lol

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Exiles 20 slimes then on turn 2-3 plays a +20 power slime