Game won't start [Windows 11 Pro] | Project Torque - F2P Racing Game | Page 1

swift goblet Nov 16, 2023, 11:05 PM

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Do you have an AMD graphics card?

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It should completely remove the current driver, then simply install the latest driver for your graphics card.
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I found an old thread on the vistax64 forums, where someone also had project torque(although back in 2009) crashing on the same module. https://www.vistax64.com/threads/a-couple-of-my-pc-games-have-stopped-working-can-anyone-help-me-rectify-this.251321/

Vista Forums

A couple of my PC Games have stopped working. can anyone help me re...

Hi All...

I have A couple of games installed on my Laptop. that have Stopped working.

One has always stopped working as soon as I launch it. it is called:

F.E.A.R Combat

But the Other game I like and has worked fine up utill today is called:

Project Torque.

The error message I am met with...

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Also if you're on the latest video driver, try one older release

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I hope that might give you new ideas 🙏

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I had a couple of games randomly crashing a month ago due to a windows update btw, I think it was KB5030310. Unsure if microsoft have fixed this but I reversed that update.. ooh well

short bramble Nov 17, 2023, 12:28 AM

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@swift goblet even on a fresh copy of windows the game doesn't work lol

swift goblet Nov 17, 2023, 12:29 AM

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hmm tried an older gpu driver?

short bramble Nov 17, 2023, 12:29 AM

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wonderful on a fresh install of windows 11, and no go

📎 logo.txt

swift goblet Nov 17, 2023, 12:29 AM

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Yeah that's the same exception code, acces violation as well

short bramble Nov 17, 2023, 12:30 AM

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I'm out of luck, I really don't want to be running out of date drivers

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because that will just lend to problem with other games later down the line

swift goblet Nov 17, 2023, 12:31 AM

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Yeah if you run newly released games you can't do without

short bramble Nov 17, 2023, 12:31 AM

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i'm out of idea's

swift goblet Nov 17, 2023, 12:33 AM

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The only thing I still have left is one of the replies I read on the vista64 forum, which is looking into DEP(Data Execution Prevention), though to only disable it for PT.
It might be the cause of the issues disallowing PT to access a certain memory block.

I don't want to go too much into how PT 'securily' loads it's app but who knows..

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I wish I could reproduce the exception 😭

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It might just be the case for PT if it loads some data to the disk and tries to access that on loading the game.. DEP prevents that from happening (basically only allowing data from memory)

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You'd only want to disable it for ProjectTorque.exe from your steamfolder(install folder for the game).. might be worth a try

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After that I'm out of ideas as well

short bramble Nov 17, 2023, 12:39 AM

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@swift goblet same result doesn't work

swift goblet Nov 17, 2023, 12:39 AM

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aaargh

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😦 at least you tried

short bramble Nov 17, 2023, 12:40 AM

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Screw this game at this point

swift goblet Nov 17, 2023, 12:40 AM

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last thing would be trying to run PT as admin.. but perhaps you've already tried that one

short bramble Nov 17, 2023, 12:41 AM

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no different lol

swift goblet Nov 17, 2023, 12:41 AM

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Well, hopefully in the future someone is able to find a solution or the culprit

short bramble Nov 17, 2023, 12:41 AM

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yup 😦

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what your address i rent your pc for a day lol xD

swift goblet Nov 17, 2023, 12:43 AM

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Haha well, netherlands.. I've recently updated my gpu so wasn't sure if PT would run, but I made it to the login screen soo..

short bramble Nov 17, 2023, 12:43 AM

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i get to the splash logo then poof

swift goblet Nov 17, 2023, 12:45 AM

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hmm.. perhaps the tmp file is set to read only
the one from the event viewer
Faulting module path: C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Local\Temp\b0494a1f-4bd3-gcWpWYX+pmHkhupW3j1t+w==\CRC_ReleaseNoDebug.dll

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Anyhow it's late, if you ever want to try things to possibly fix it, hit me up (tag me here)

short bramble Nov 17, 2023, 12:47 AM

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tried no luck

swift goblet Nov 17, 2023, 12:48 AM

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I was thinking earlier that it would be the pro version of windows, but I'm actually running 11 pro as well 🤔

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aah.. anyhow thanks for trying 👍

short bramble Nov 17, 2023, 12:52 AM

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Cheers for trying to help man, much appreciated ^-^

rare grove Nov 17, 2023, 4:24 AM

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Did you try all of these suggestions? https://community.projecttorque.racing/threads/unable-to-open-game.205/post-9846

Project Torque Community Forums

Unable to open game?

Can't find chat in saves
1692774743
And it's not hidden
1692774918
I tried using VPN and it didn't work

In the save folder are following folders: chat, controls, game replays

dusky prawn Nov 17, 2023, 6:33 AM

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Uh perhaps there is a hardware issue, mind tellin us your pc specs? Cpu ram gpu?

rotund egret Nov 17, 2023, 6:56 AM

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I would like to help out. I have a Win11 machine I could give it a try.

dusky prawn Nov 17, 2023, 8:03 AM

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I also use win11 pro, though its unlicensed

short bramble Nov 17, 2023, 1:22 PM

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Ryzen 3900x 128GB 3600MHZ ddr4 ram and 3070ti

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📎 231117_132802.log

rotund egret Nov 17, 2023, 5:51 PM

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Weirdly enough, my main PC and the W11 machine I mentioned fails to start the game

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It just opens and closes after 5 sec

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Did re-download and clean start, no dice.

dusky prawn Nov 17, 2023, 5:57 PM

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i think it might be cuz the game doesnt like so much memory

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just a theory

rotund egret Nov 17, 2023, 5:58 PM

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I feel like Windows Updates might broke it, since it was possible few years ago

dusky prawn Nov 17, 2023, 6:01 PM

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i had the game before on 11. it was fine for me

rotund egret Nov 17, 2023, 6:02 PM

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I would give some more attempts to find a solution

dusky prawn Nov 17, 2023, 6:28 PM

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@desert gazelle is there perhaps a way to allocate ram to the game?

short bramble Nov 17, 2023, 6:41 PM

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I've tried with less ram still a no go

dusky prawn Nov 17, 2023, 6:54 PM

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this looks. fun

bright otter Nov 17, 2023, 7:49 PM

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Do you have all vc++ installed? Here's a handy all-in-one download: https://www.techpowerup.com/download/visual-c-redistributable-runtime-package-all-in-one/

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Sometimes i had this being the issue on several systems

short bramble Nov 17, 2023, 8:29 PM

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@bright otter I do it the first thing I do on any os install ^-^

dusky prawn Nov 17, 2023, 8:45 PM

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the logs suggest a memory error

short bramble Nov 17, 2023, 8:50 PM

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@dusky prawn unlikely the issue, this is legit the only game that doesn't run, All my other games run with out issues

dusky prawn Nov 17, 2023, 8:51 PM

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this is the most misterious mystery i had in a long while

short bramble Nov 17, 2023, 8:51 PM

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Same lol

rotund egret Nov 17, 2023, 8:51 PM

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But gotta say, it was working with 10 or 11

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Even I played like one year ago

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but then when I tried today, it did not.

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I am suspecting Windows Update as it tends to break something despite fixes

short bramble Nov 17, 2023, 8:52 PM

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Hey microsoft what did you fix this time

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https://tenor.com/view/shrugs-shrug-shoulder-shrug-shoulder-shrugs-useless-guy-shrug-gif-24937327

Tenor

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like legit

swift goblet Nov 17, 2023, 9:49 PM

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dusky prawn the logs suggest a memory error

It's a memory access error, some memory pages in windows are protected from apps to be written or read. This to prevent malware and whatsoever to be infiltrate into secured data pages. Also some pages can be protected by other applications.. (like security software).

In theory it can be anything, but most likely something that blocks access.

Did you have bitlocker enabled perhaps?

short bramble Nov 17, 2023, 10:09 PM

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Nope

dusky prawn Nov 17, 2023, 10:24 PM

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Risky buttt. Disable your antivirus

swift goblet Nov 17, 2023, 10:24 PM

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Just checked my own PT logs, I'm on an newer version of windows OS 6.2.9200 SP:0 instead of your OS 6.1.7600 SP:0

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I'm also running a 3900x btw

dusky prawn Nov 17, 2023, 10:25 PM

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Disable defender. Or restrict its access to pt game folder

swift goblet Nov 17, 2023, 10:29 PM

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rotund egret Weirdly enough, my main PC and the W11 machine I mentioned fails to start the ga...

Which OS version does it have?

short bramble Nov 17, 2023, 11:07 PM

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What is defender and what is a anti-virus 🤔😂 jokes a side I don't have either

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Win11 23h2

swift goblet Nov 17, 2023, 11:30 PM

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Hmm crazy theory, recheck whether your gpu is seated properly in the pci slot

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(Although I wonder whether @rotund egret was also running an nvidia gpu)

short bramble Nov 17, 2023, 11:35 PM

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@swift goblet I'm legit scratching my head because all my others games run fine even stuff like bio shock lol

swift goblet Nov 17, 2023, 11:54 PM

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Tried running Prime95 (blend test) ?

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I run 4 sticks of DDR4, at 3800 mhz, although it's 4x 8gb..

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my timings if it would help you out,
⚠️ don't mess with these if you don't know how to pull cmos battery to reset the bios.

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I have also tried about a few settings in my graphics card driver, from enabling and disabling vsync to disabling and enabling upscaling

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I wish I could somehow replicate it

desert gazelle Nov 18, 2023, 12:53 AM

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I have just installed and launched the game on my Windows 11 PC. Fresh ~ a week ago

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No issues

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All I can sugest is to try reinstalling .NET 3.5

rotund egret Nov 18, 2023, 5:07 AM

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swift goblet Which OS version does it have?

Main is 10 with latest ver.

rotund egret Nov 18, 2023, 5:08 AM

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swift goblet (Although I wonder whether <@326482200692260875> was also running an nvidia gpu)

RTX 2060

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@desert gazelle I am curious. Is it have to do with latest game update breaking that? I mean, your test was done in latest client version of the game?

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I wanted to clear that assumption.

swift goblet Nov 18, 2023, 5:18 AM

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rotund egret RTX 2060

Interesting, I only have got a very old ehh 250 gts I could use to test

rotund egret Nov 18, 2023, 5:19 AM

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swift goblet Interesting, I only have got a very old ehh 250 gts I could use to test

Funny enough, I always wanted to get 250. For my XP rig lol

swift goblet Nov 18, 2023, 5:19 AM

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haha yeah I think it was a rebranded 9800 series?

rotund egret Nov 18, 2023, 5:19 AM

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Yeah. 256 bit and so on.

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Back to the topic, it's weird situation. The game literally were working before.

swift goblet Nov 18, 2023, 5:20 AM

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I saw something regarding an nvidia network access manager that might cause the same exception.. might be worth checking out.. unless it's not even installed in your case

rotund egret Nov 18, 2023, 5:21 AM

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Is it separate thing or comes in Nvidia drivers?

swift goblet Nov 18, 2023, 5:21 AM

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I wouldn't know, sorry I've been using amd gpus since 2010 😊 (HD 6870 X2 -> R9 290X -> 6950 XT)

rotund egret Nov 18, 2023, 5:21 AM

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Uuff.

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I will give some more tests today. In fact I will go wild and test the game on 7 and XP rigs I have.

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Yep. I have PC for every OS, lmao.

swift goblet Nov 18, 2023, 5:22 AM

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It would be nice if we can some kind find the culprit as it prevents people from playing 🙏

rotund egret Nov 18, 2023, 5:24 AM

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Mhm. I used to help a few people here using remote control. While risky, was able to solve their problems. Some had missing stuff like NET Framework or C++ and a few had game location.

swift goblet Nov 18, 2023, 5:27 AM

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I just want to be able to replicate the issue so I can attach a debugger

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In the end.. there has to be a solution!

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I could try to use one of my instable ram timings.. and give it a shot.. or instable cpu settings..

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Main thing I wonder about, is it gpu manufacturer/driver related.. will probably look into the logs on the forum tomorrow evening

rotund egret Nov 18, 2023, 5:31 AM

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Yeah. I will keep on testing with my best of abilities and come with some reports.

#Game won't start [Windows 11 Pro]