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celest trench Jun 13, 2024, 8:42 AM

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i repeatedly get this crash with the error message

Error: java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "net.minecraft.class_1058.method_4580(double)" because "this.field_17886" is null```

i'll upload the report in a bit

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📎 message.txt

zenith olive Jun 13, 2024, 8:49 AM

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looks like an issue with embeddium?

winged saddle Jun 13, 2024, 8:51 AM

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i'd guess the same. surprising though.

winged saddle Jun 13, 2024, 8:51 AM

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celest trench

Is it only the one world, or does it crash on any world you try?

zenith olive Jun 13, 2024, 8:52 AM

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there seems to be some particle that is causing the crash

winged saddle Jun 13, 2024, 8:52 AM

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yep.

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@wise trench , I hope you don't mind a ping. Nitro and I both think this crash (up thread a bit) might be an Embeddium issue. What do you think?

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(or maybe Iris.. that's a few calls earlier in the call stack)

zenith olive Jun 13, 2024, 8:57 AM

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since this is on EU, could you reset @celest trench to spawn to see if they can log in?

winged saddle Jun 13, 2024, 9:00 AM

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Oh, geez, lol... I didn't realize it was a player on our servers.
Ofc I can. Coming up...

celest trench Jun 13, 2024, 9:34 AM

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anytime i do anything w create on the server i get sent to the shadow realm

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(crash)

winged saddle Jun 13, 2024, 9:42 AM

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Change your flywheel settings? (search discord; I'd have to too; I think it's a command you can use in-game).

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From your crash report:

Flywheel Backend: GL33 Instanced Arrays

celest trench Jun 13, 2024, 9:42 AM

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flywheel?

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the only flying i do is with a glider

winged saddle Jun 13, 2024, 9:44 AM

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It's an internal part of Create, and affects how Create does it's magic to have spinning whizzy fun in MC.

zenith olive Jun 13, 2024, 9:44 AM

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dork, you dork, it's a setting lol

winged saddle Jun 13, 2024, 9:44 AM

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Or what Nitro said. xD

celest trench Jun 13, 2024, 9:51 AM

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can i ask where it is under settings?

winged saddle Jun 13, 2024, 9:52 AM

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#1250732086025781259 message

zenith olive Jun 13, 2024, 9:54 AM

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#1247028042036150343 message

celest trench Jun 13, 2024, 9:59 AM

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crashed again lets go

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i have

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no shaders

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i turned my flywheel off

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what now

winged saddle Jun 13, 2024, 10:07 AM

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~~try logging in again?~~ oops, poor reading comp on my part, lol

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New crash log?

earnest ingot Jun 13, 2024, 10:39 AM

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sounds like a job for @glossy flint . he knows his stuff 😄

celest trench Jun 13, 2024, 10:41 AM

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no

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same crash report

winged saddle Jun 13, 2024, 10:48 AM

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Lol. I'd like to see it anyway. Pretty please.

winged saddle Jun 13, 2024, 10:48 AM

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earnest ingot sounds like a job for <@298133692772122624> . he knows his stuff 😄

That he does. Is also not alway available.

winged saddle Jun 13, 2024, 10:49 AM

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celest trench same crash report

In addition to the new crash report, do have any ideas what your were doing when the crashes started?
Last report only mentioned something about a particle. Often you get something more informative, like a particular ticking block or some such.

celest trench Jun 13, 2024, 11:02 AM

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📎 message.txt

celest trench Jun 13, 2024, 11:03 AM

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winged saddle In addition to the _new_ crash report, do have any ideas what your were doing wh...

i've been doing create stuff recently, nothing super intricate i'd say, just some chocolate making

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lots of pipes and fluids

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there are particles when things travel through pipes and it only seems to crash when im there

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don't know why its crashing now

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i've made so much stuff and it hasn't been crashing a lot until recently

winged saddle Jun 13, 2024, 11:08 AM

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Thank you; the info helps, espcially when the crash report isn't making it clear exactly what's going wrong.

winged saddle Jun 13, 2024, 11:48 AM

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Well, that was... not very informative. Went to your base, same crash. Though I do have updated Iris vs the latest version of the pack.

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📎 crash-2024-06-13_20.47.23-client.txt

celest trench Jun 13, 2024, 11:56 AM

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damn

wise trench Jun 13, 2024, 12:04 PM

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The particle has a null texture

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I can check the vanilla code embeddium replaces to see if it handles that, if not I doubt it's caused by embeddium

winged saddle Jun 13, 2024, 12:25 PM

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Hey hey hey! A person with a clue has arrived. We’re helpless on this one. TY.

celest trench Jun 13, 2024, 1:13 PM

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o7

winged saddle Jun 13, 2024, 11:28 PM

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celest trench o7

Found a temporary ~~solution~~ band-aid for you... just disable Iris in your client before even starting it.
Worked for me just now... was able to connect to EU7 and go to your base, no problems.
Though... all the create stuff was not moving.

wise trench Jun 13, 2024, 11:28 PM

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when you had Iris enabled did you have a shaderpack active or no

winged saddle Jun 13, 2024, 11:29 PM

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Says he didn't: #1250732086025781259 message

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🤷

wise trench Jun 13, 2024, 11:30 PM

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I was asking you but now I realized the crash report includes this information anyway

winged saddle Jun 13, 2024, 11:30 PM

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Yes, I had mine on.

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But obvs not when going in just a moment ago with-out Iris.

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Doing a ugrep -z TERRAIN_SHEET on the mods folder—my only feeble idea—only matched on Iris and a Supplementaires class... but I checked Supp's code and it was mentioning TERRAIN_SHEET_OPAQUE.
So... i'm really out of my depth here, tbh.

wise trench Jun 13, 2024, 11:34 PM

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today I learned ugrep -z is a thing

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you have probably just saved me 30 minutes another day

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thanks

winged saddle Jun 13, 2024, 11:34 PM

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Tell ThatGravyBoat... he clued me into ugrep's powers to scan zips (jars).

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net/mehvahdjukaar/supplementaries/client/particles/SugarParticle.class, fwiw.

wise trench Jun 13, 2024, 11:37 PM

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class_647 is supposedly BreakingItemParticle, is there a machine in the base continuously breaking items or something?

winged saddle Jun 13, 2024, 11:37 PM

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@celest trench ? ☝️

celest trench Jun 14, 2024, 7:54 AM

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winged saddle Found a **temporary** ~~solution~~ band-aid for you... just disable Iris in your...

you mean remove it from the modpack or

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i use curseforge so theres no like, off button

winged saddle Jun 14, 2024, 7:54 AM

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Remove/disable… same thing for this purpose.

celest trench Jun 14, 2024, 7:54 AM

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i have no shaders enabled tho

winged saddle Jun 14, 2024, 7:55 AM

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I know, but it didn’t prevent you from crashing. Just try it without Iris.

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Not the ideal solution, I know.

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If you can answer Embeddedt’s question, it may help use at least contribute a solid bug report to Iris. #1250732086025781259 message
Best would be if we could narrow it down to a particular block or item that we could remove.

celest trench Jun 14, 2024, 7:59 AM

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dont think so, it said shaders none

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it may have selected smth without me knowing tho

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it only happens when i feed my blazeburners

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it's happened 3 times

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so i know for SURE its my burners

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the ones for my steam engine are fine

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but any other burner crashes me

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either that and its the burners + the things im mixing with the burners

winged saddle Jun 14, 2024, 8:14 AM

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Details, excellent!

zenith olive Jun 14, 2024, 8:14 AM

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wanna test the blaze burners at my base, dork? they're fed with liquid instead of solid fuel

winged saddle Jun 14, 2024, 8:15 AM

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Surely others are using blazeburners though… what, and how, exactly are you feeding them?

zenith olive Jun 14, 2024, 8:15 AM

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not sure that makes a difference, but they're technically a different kind of blaze burner

winged saddle Jun 14, 2024, 8:17 AM

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I meant, what is Dork doing different than others. Somehow it seems he’s accidentally managed to find an Iris bug (even with shaders off) that, afaik, no one else on our servers has.

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#1 I want to fix it so he can play how he likes. Seems like a waste of his nice rig to skip shaders, imho. ^^

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Secondary, but still important, is letting whatever mod know they’ve got a bug. Certainly seems like it’s Iris.

celest trench Jun 14, 2024, 8:44 AM

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i just fed them with that coal dust from MI

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the brown stuff

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by hand not automatic

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and the basin had cacao butter (solid) and buckets

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and as soon as i fed it it took like half a second before i crashed

celest trench Jun 14, 2024, 8:45 AM

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zenith olive wanna test the blaze burners at my base, dork? they're fed with liquid instead o...

if you can drag me out of my base i cant even get online

celest trench Jun 14, 2024, 8:46 AM

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winged saddle Secondary, but still important, is letting whatever mod know they’ve got a bug. ...

i removed iris from the mod folder and got online and still crashed

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and to note: i play with decreased particles and fast graphics

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mostly because i'm here to play minecraft to play minecraft not experience something drop dead gorgeous

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if i want something like that i'll go play day of dragons or subnautica

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so my visuals are for potato pcs aside from the 12 chunk render distance

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hell even my smooth liting is off

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who would've thunk me doing create would find the weirdest bug

celest trench Jun 14, 2024, 8:50 AM

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celest trench and the basin had cacao butter (solid) and buckets

weirder thing too is that i've done this multiple times and only now has it been crashing me

winged saddle Jun 14, 2024, 8:52 AM

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Weird. I crashed first time I went to your base, but not when I went back with Iris removed from my instance.

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I can test again later on; family time here rn

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Crash log from when you didn’t have Iris, please?

celest trench Jun 14, 2024, 8:53 AM

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dont sweat it

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let me see if i didnt close my mc

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this time it's

Error: java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "net.minecraft.class_1058.method_4580(double)" because "this.field_17886" is null```

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📎 message.txt

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heres the whole log

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in a nutshell:

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surprisingly everything else is fine

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but the moment i feed a blazeburner with that brown coal dust i get sent to the shadow realm

zenith olive Jun 14, 2024, 9:13 AM

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celest trench in a nutshell:

is it wrong to hope you crash more so we can get more visual depictions like this?

winged saddle Jun 14, 2024, 9:18 AM

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omg... l ❤️ that diagram

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hmm... when I went nothing seemed to be in motion. Maybe that's why I survived. Will test that theory. (my boys want to play games, not hang out with dad rn. "poop", I say.)

celest trench Jun 14, 2024, 9:24 AM

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zenith olive is it wrong to hope you crash more so we can get more visual depictions like thi...

ugh

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blue when you get online i can like

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ally you to my guild so you can do some testing even when i'm asleep

winged saddle Jun 14, 2024, 9:27 AM

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sure... lemee get back on.

celest trench Jun 14, 2024, 9:28 AM

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if we can

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NSDJFNJ

winged saddle Jun 14, 2024, 9:28 AM

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What would you like me to test, aside from confirming it's the Cacao Butter / brown coal dust that cause the problem?

celest trench Jun 14, 2024, 9:29 AM

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honestly figuring out what exactly triggers it would be nice

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cause if i can avoid that i will

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but if its just blaze burners being on thats the problem then we cry

winged saddle Jun 14, 2024, 9:30 AM

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Just to confirm... there's 2 different things you think might be it, when fed to blaze burners?

Cacao Butter Fluid, and
"brown coal dust" (lignite?)

celest trench Jun 14, 2024, 9:30 AM

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i think its called lignite

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the cacao butter was put into the basin along with buckets

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the blaze burner is under the basin

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cacao butter + buckets in a heated basin gives cacao butter buckets

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i then drain that into a tank

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but it crashes before it can even make the cacao butter bucket

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i tried to log in and it just crashed my minecraft again

winged saddle Jun 14, 2024, 9:31 AM

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Ah... its' not the actualy feeding to BB that crashes... but the making of the CBB?

celest trench Jun 14, 2024, 9:32 AM

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no idea

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we can test that

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if i can get into my base

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which i probably cant

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unless you have admin privilages and i can show u how i set it up somewhere else

winged saddle Jun 14, 2024, 9:33 AM

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Lets see... when I went for me first test, long after you were gone, nothing was moving and I was ok.
I wonder... did all the Create stuff just run out of fuel?
Wait, that does'nt make sense. Hmm...

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I'm on EU7, btw, if you want to ally me.

celest trench Jun 14, 2024, 9:34 AM

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winged saddle Lets see... when I went for me first test, long after you were gone, nothing was...

if left unloaded i think the blaze burners just keep drinking the seed oil

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i dont think i can get on without crashing

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im at the base

winged saddle Jun 14, 2024, 9:34 AM

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ah, just a sec, i'll move you to spawn...

celest trench Jun 14, 2024, 9:34 AM

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celest trench if left unloaded i think the blaze burners just keep drinking the seed oil

and because its not loaded the pressers dont make more oil

winged saddle Jun 14, 2024, 9:35 AM

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ok, you're at spawn now. well, will be when you log in.

celest trench Jun 14, 2024, 9:55 AM

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it only crashes me in the basement

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i can stay in the area without dying so long as i dont go into the basement

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but that also means i cant kill my blaze burners

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unless you can like

winged saddle Jun 14, 2024, 9:56 AM

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that kinda makes sense, that'd it'd be a line-of-sight problem, not just a chunk load problem.

celest trench Jun 14, 2024, 9:56 AM

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admin command remove the blaze burners in my area

winged saddle Jun 14, 2024, 9:57 AM

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maybe. would need some coordinates. but for now I'm gonna step away from computer for a bit. need to wind down after a work day.

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will be back on the case later tonight (my time) probably

celest trench Jun 14, 2024, 10:01 AM

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what.

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ok

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so even at my base

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if i open my ME system with that console thing where i can move around n still have access to it with the push of a button

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it kills m

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celest trench Jun 17, 2024, 8:57 AM

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@winged saddle lmk when you're online so i can ally you

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turning on the blaze burner didnt crash me

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it crashed me when i added the buckets n it started mixing

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i also managed to catch a glimpse of a kibe tank with some cacao fluid in the basin

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dunno if this helps any

winged saddle Jun 17, 2024, 8:58 PM

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Hopefully I'll have some time today to poke at this problem. Sorry I hadn't been able to get back to it sooner.
No worries, i think i can 'get around' that with OP powers
Huh and... actually that makes sense. It was a particle effect, i think, that triggered the crash. Basin mixing does throw particles. Just want to nail down exactly which ingredients or recipe it is that throws the (for now) cursed particles.

winged saddle Jun 18, 2024, 1:14 AM

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celest trench <@963946965849231410> lmk when you're online so i can ally you

So, I finally had time and got back to your base. No crash.
Confirmed the basin was at the coords in the crash log you had... replaced it with a block of gold.

Separately, in a desert again, mixed that same recipe in a basin heated by a blaze burner... no problem.
I really dk why it's busted at your base, and not elsewhere, in the desert.
Maybe the things around it (the basin) that graphically interact with the particles it's spitting out when mixing? Again, IDK.

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But for now, it seems your base is safe. Just don't make that recipe in a mixer, if you can avoid it. ^^

celest trench Jun 18, 2024, 5:33 AM

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i'll try to avoid it

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maybe i can get someone else to make it since it really only seems to be my base

zenith olive Jun 18, 2024, 5:59 AM

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what recipe?

celest trench Jun 18, 2024, 6:03 AM

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cacao fluid

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just need to mix cacao butter and a bucket in a mixer with a blaze burner underneath

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then drain the buckets into a tank

zenith olive Jun 18, 2024, 6:20 AM

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i might give it a shot

celest trench Jun 19, 2024, 9:39 AM

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OAKY

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SOMETHING ELSE HAS CRASHED ME

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I DIDN'T MAKE CACAO BUTTER

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IT WAS SOMETHING ELSE

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FUCK

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AUGH

zenith olive Jun 19, 2024, 9:49 AM

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got a log?

celest trench Jun 19, 2024, 9:52 AM

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yeah

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same crash message tho

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Error: java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "net.minecraft.class_1058.method_4580(double)" because "this.field_17886" is null```

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📎 message.txt

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wheres blue

winged saddle Jun 19, 2024, 12:54 PM

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Hmm... is that another mixer? (at 594 101 1072... same y level as the mixer of last time)

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brb; bedtime for the boys now

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Spitballing theories to go with observations so far:

erroring particle was collocated with a mixer last time.
performing the same mixing recipe elsewhere than your base was/is no problem.

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Wild theories:

there’s something special at/about your base.

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the error message is a red-herring in some way(?)

celest trench Jun 19, 2024, 1:35 PM

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i have no idea man

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it may be my base

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could be

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im living above a redstone cave and got like

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40 skeleton horses around

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i can ally you and add you to the list if u get online

celest trench Jun 28, 2024, 4:51 PM

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I FIGURED IT OUT

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ITS THE KIBE TANKS

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IF YOU PUT A KIBE TANK INTO A BASIN WITH A MIXER IT CRASHES

chilly minnow Jun 28, 2024, 4:52 PM

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What a dork

celest trench Jun 28, 2024, 4:52 PM

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I ACCIDENTALLY DROPPED SOME TANKS INTO A BASIN AND IT KILLED ME

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AUGH

chilly minnow Jun 28, 2024, 4:52 PM

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Omg

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Such a specific case

celest trench Jun 28, 2024, 4:52 PM

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still a interesting bug

chilly minnow Jun 28, 2024, 4:53 PM

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Yeah

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I see even embeddedt got in on this convo, cray cray

wise trench Jun 28, 2024, 9:59 PM

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celest trench IF YOU PUT A KIBE TANK INTO A BASIN WITH A MIXER IT CRASHES

interesting

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does the tank need to contain anything

winged saddle Jun 29, 2024, 12:39 AM

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Oh, hey, some new came up a similar crash, TERRAIN_SHEET reference too. https://discord.com/channels/570630340075454474/1256344478214652066

winged saddle Jun 29, 2024, 12:59 AM

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@celest trench that player just turned off all particles and seemed to be OK—I forget, have you already tried that?

celest trench Jun 29, 2024, 5:11 AM

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i have it on decreased but not off

winged saddle Jun 29, 2024, 5:15 AM

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so... try "off" and see what happens, lol.

celest trench Jun 29, 2024, 2:27 PM

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there is no off option

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at least for me

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theres all, decreased and minimal

#repeated crashing