AOF 7 Mod Suggestions

[novel bluff]

that issue is now fixed

since it now is just a backport of ae2's official emi integration on 1.20.4

someone in extra mod integrations' discord server has been working on dml support for a while apparently, they said they were going to pr it

[hollow silo]

i believe it was happening even with the (current) latest version :x
but i can check again

[hollow silo]

thanks for the heads up ^^

[novel bluff]

yeah just thought u might want to avoid doing duplicate work

[hollow silo]

oh for sure

[novel bluff]

does the issue still occur?

[hollow silo]

sorry for the delay, i'll check now (read: in a few minutes because my 700 mod modpack takes a bit to load)

[novel bluff]

ok

[hollow silo]

it does, i think mostly whenever the output of a ME Crafting Terminal updates (i.e. when placing or taking out an item in the crafting grid)

here are the results of a spark profiler i ran while triggering the issue repeatedly: https://spark.lucko.me/ZgK1KYyjaO

oh, this is probably not the best place to discuss this... feel free to @ me in Emi's Hangout?

[novel bluff]

damn thats a shame

im not actually involved with the ae2 emi crafting integration mod, its probably better to open an issue on their repository

[hollow silo]

i was thinking about it, but AE2's JEI integration works well through JEMI, so i didn't think it was worth the trouble... but i certainly can

tada https://github.com/blocovermelho/ae2-emi-crafting/issues/23

[mossy silo]

Suggestion for the Heph/MI integration: A SUUUPER late-game special type of gear/rotor mold that lets you use Tinker's/Heph to make gears with the same amount of material you need to make them with MI.
It might encourage people to progress MI so they can automate gears without steam.

[novel bluff]

Iridium Gear Mold

:D

idk what u mean by "without steam" though

[mossy silo]

Tinker's doesn't require steam power, MI's automation for gears requires steam or electric power

[novel bluff]

i mean

once u get to endgame mi power generation is not a problem anyway

[mossy silo]

True

[boreal onyx]

Is it gonna make it in the next release? 😄

[high seal]

dont think so owl, sorry. the changelog is already out in the github 🙄

not 100%, you can check it out

[boreal onyx]

Ty Inno ❤️

[high seal]

u should totally make yt videos for tutorials for all these CC things

u know... too much

[boreal onyx]

LMAO, I am just a n00b wdymmmm xD

[high seal]

cap

[boreal onyx]

One day 😛

[jaunty mauve]

OOOOO MORE CC stuff

[tall delta]

IDK if this was denied or just forgotten but I would love to see this mod! It is small but really fun especially in servers or early-midgame

[lavish lily]

new update where changelog says fixed mod not working on servers so perhaps worth a test?

[hollow silo]

it used to require a version of Create that was incompatible with Sodium 0.5, but now that Create has updated it might be worth a try

[hollow silo]

it still modifies the DyeColor enum, which is likely what's breaking Bewitchment (and other mods)... i'm not really sure why they're even doing that

[lavish lily]

oh oof. thats odd because its from the same creator that made twigs. if they had a discord server i would join and ask but i dont see anything

mod: pride land

reason: pride! https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/pride-land

[trail barn]

i suggest essential, pretty lightweight, and it allows singleplayer hosting to easily join a friend! useful for working on a build together in creative, and simply teaching things without needing to join or make a survival server 🙂 https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/essential-mod

i cant figure out what my problem with the messenger thing is but its still amazing

[hollow silo]

ESSENTIAL is closed source and has been known to cause many many issues with other mods in the past

e4mc also allows easily hosting a singleplayer world as a server

[trail barn]

darn

ty for the info!

[charred zinc]

Suggestion: Ears Mod
Link: https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/ears
Why: Cool ears, wings and tail
thank u for coming to my ted talk...........

[trail barn]

i need this for reason i shant explain

[charred zinc]

what we have

what we could have.......

[distant lava]

If only they actually had a way to select parts from like a catalogue. Instead its all manual editing

[charred zinc]

If the parts were selectable from a catalogue, folk would have the same looks though 😔

[urban drift]

https://legacy.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/armourers-workshop

may i suggest this then?

[charred zinc]

A note that it doesn't affect currently existing skins, it instead utilizes parts of the template that mojang never used

alongside using a small part of a template as a sort of color code to determine the positioning/angles/shapes used

[distant lava]

That's pretty cool

[urban drift]

yeah, catalog is still kind of small-ish with common themes but it doesnt have to be and you can share templates

(smallish in some categories. some things are heavily filled out, and the mod allows custom blocks too)

[vital gyro]

eyyy, this is a cool one

[trail barn]

aparrently it bugs bc of aof mods 😭

[vital gyro]

yea, I just read that after I posted my message 💀💀💀

[trail barn]

literally jor jorwel 1984

[vital gyro]

I think that's where I can appropriately use the skull emoji, I don't use them but I see friends use them

I.. Will look that up when I get home

[trail barn]

twas sarcasm

[vital gyro]

O- Oh

[trail barn]

george orwell is famous for a book called 1984 though

gud book 👍

[vital gyro]

OH

Yea, Imm familiar with the book, I read the text surface value and just thought " Jor Jowel?"

[trail barn]

jor jorel 1674 🗿

[vital gyro]

:0

[mossy silo]

Figura exists.

[vital gyro]

I second this

[trail barn]

What that

[jovial dagger]

Figura exists.
Ooooh.... dat looks cool.

[mossy silo]

Figura.

(Image brightened because this is the only good screencap of my custom player model I have, and it was from me testing the emissive textures.)

It's hard to see, but the snout sticks out. There's a tail, too.

I have better screencaps on my PC, but I'm not feeling up to turning it on just to show people the Minecraft manifestation of my fursona.

The emissives used to break with Sodium. Seems they don't anymore?

[trail barn]

Cool skin, but what's figura actually do? Just skin stuff?

I was mostly saying for the single player hosting and stuff

[mossy silo]

Look at the first screencap. Ears, tail, snout. =3

[trail barn]

I couldn't figure out how to make a duplicate profile and add essential too, I wanted to show schems to my freind

[mossy silo]

You replied to the ear and tail mod?

[jovial dagger]

AoF7 moved off Sodium… would be good to check how well it works with Embedium.

[trail barn]

No I was requesting essential lol

I just said I liked the ear tail mod

Ooooh I thought you were responding to smth else lmao

[mossy silo]

??

Furry 🫵

[jovial dagger]

Be proud, Dan, Say it Loud. ^^

[mossy silo]

I once attempted to port my custom player model made with BlockBench into Blender to modify it for VRChat use.
It went poorly. I have a usable block guy model with emissives and transparency functioning correctly... that's about it.
Got bored of it.

Maybe someday I'll pick the project up again.

[jovial dagger]

It’s a nice model, Anom.
So good to have mods that enable more personal expression, imho.

[mossy silo]

Thx!

(I generally prefer being called GD, but if GD is a bit too different I prefer Ano over Anom for reasons I don't really understand ^^)

Theeeere we go!

[jovial dagger]

I have respect for self-determination of identity—and an awful memory for names. I’ll try my best, GD.

[hollow silo]

ears is gud 👍

[mossy silo]

Completely valid.

[wide oak]

Cosmetic armor

More specifically the mod that lets you wear armor over your armor

[oblique remnant]

WE NEED THAT

[jovial dagger]

Is awesome. In fact we've had it in 6 for a pack version or two.
Was just too buggy/crashy.

Botania's ability to make it's own armor invisible/transparent is still there though.

[hollow silo]

Cosmetic Armor was crashing for me with the "glass armor" added via KubeJS, but it worked fine with a full mod like Glass Armor (which... isn't available on curseforge anymore, oh dear)

in fact, i'm using those two mods together in my own 1.20.1 modpack :p

[jovial dagger]

Awesome!
We did check many armors in combination before putting it in AoF6... yet still found crashes after release.

[urban drift]

cosmetic armor was crashing due to broken geckolib that the geckolib team stopped supporting

[jovial dagger]

Oh, here come's the man who knows the bug details on that...

[hollow silo]

was that not fixed by changing one of Cosmetic Armor's mixins' priority?

[urban drift]

the code that crashed literally does nothing anymore other than crash when bad interactions with mods happen, everything else was recoded a while ago (1.17). when notified they refused to remove the buggy code because they didnt support it

nope, the priority change just changes which part of geckolib code chokes

[hollow silo]

excellent

[urban drift]

luckily, aof7 doesnt use geckolib3 (since 1.20.1 doesnt have geckolib3)

[high seal]

does this mean cosmetic armor can be added back?

[urban drift]

should be able to

[hollow silo]

another fun fact about geckolib is that every recent version for anything older than MC 1.21 completely doesn't work in a dev environment due to them messing up a jar-in-jar implementation

MC 1.21 is, of course, not released yet

(or maybe they fixed it in 1.20.4? their 1.20.1 version doesn't work, at least... yet they're still releasing updates for it...)

[urban drift]

i should rework my geckolib compat mod to be cleaner since its current implementation just nops out the method bodies of their methods

[wide oak]

Wasn’t this fixed in the newer cosmetic armor update? I swear I saw something about that in the update info

[urban drift]

they tried

it fixes one but breaks another

[wide oak]

Hmm

[urban drift]

its not a problem with cosmetic armor. its bad programming in geckolib. 100% geckolib's fault

[wide oak]

Ok well that’s somewhat reassuring

What issue started appearing with the cosmetic armor?

[urban drift]

geckolib crashes

[wide oak]

More specifically what action crashed it

[urban drift]

they store the entity at the head of the render method in ArmorFeaturerenderer
they store the slot being rendered at the head of renderArmor (same class)
they reference each of those in the getArmor and getArmorTexture methods respectively

(those methods do nothing for geckolib, they just return the same values passed to them...while referencing variables that may be null causing crashing)

iirc cosmetic armor just deferred their rendering which just creates a situation where it sometimes crashes depending on if the values were nulled out (which geckolib does at the end of the render method)

literally just removing MixinArmorFeatureRenderer from geckolib's mixin json fixes the entire issue (or doing what my mod does and disabling it)

[slate heart]

the entity is stored in the armor

[urban drift]

right, the stored entity and slot are not used in current code, which is why it can be completely removed.

the team just refuses to stop crashing other people's mods

[hollow silo]

damn, i looked into GeckoLib3's code for myself, and you're right; ArmorRenderingRegistryImpl does literally nothing

maybe geckolib was made by a gecko 🦎 geckos are known to love dead code

[urban drift]

they reworked the code back in 1.17 and never removed the dead code. choosing to leave it breaking other peoples' mods instead of just removing the mixin as a patch version boggles my mind. i notified them (in their geckolib 3 support channel) just 4 months after their last update and the response was effectively "we arent supporting geckolib 3 anymore"

[hollow silo]

in their defense, there's probably at least one old mod that still depends on that dead code, and they don't want to have to deal with whatever occurs due to that one mod breaking, especially not since GeckoLib3 has been deprecated for a while
but... i bet more mods are broken with the dead code than without, lol

[distant lava]

No. The mixin does nothing in 1.18+

[hollow silo]

but What If a mod mixes into ArmorRenderingRegistryImpl to change the return value of its methods!?
(this is the only "use" case i can think of)

in that case their mod deserves to be broken tbh

or i guess a mod could have a call to one of the two methods in that class (which could be removed outright, since they do nothing)

anyway one could just use mixinsquared to kill geckolib3's broken mixin directly lol

[urban drift]

yeah, before mixinsquared i just asm wiped the methods. i just updated to mixin2

[hollow silo]

asm 😟

my worst fear

[mossy silo]

Are we gonna get announcements in #announcements about the 2.0.0 and 2.0.1 updates?

[jovial dagger]

Yes. Outside issues delaying that. Basic change logs are in the repo if you want that info.

[hybrid pelican]

Add me as moderator, won't regret very much.

Will not regret, no purge bans from me i swear

[boreal onyx]

Bump ^^

[tepid fable]

What do you guys think about adding this to the pack? This mod adds controller support to Java Edition. It even comes with a radial menu.
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/controllable-fabric

I think this could be useful for Steam Deck players who want to check out AoF7.

Or is this pack simply unplayable on controllers due to the amount of mods already in it?

[hollow silo]

suggestion: QuickBench fixes the lag when crafting stacks of items at once. the only problem is it's not compatible with Enhanced Workbenches

[distant lava]

Only problem is it causes duping in other crafting benches... You just infinitely remove the output and the input is never taken

[hollow silo]

i have never had that happen to me 😌

what "other crafting benches" are you referring to

[distant lava]

Specifically on the server. No idea about single player and I don't recall. But players on the server were nice enough to report the duping.
If there is a performance mod. Chances are we already tested it

[hollow silo]

i've previously tested the mod on a server with AE2's ME Crafting Terminal, Hephaestus's Crafting Station, Yttr's Project Table, and i don't know what else and they've all worked fine

except for Mystical Agriculture's Infusion Crystal getting deleted but that's probably on them

and thankfully Cucumber Library isn't in AOF7

[distant lava]

Crafting station
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/821417666332983306/1184605935595966564/2023-12-13_13-19-55.mp4?ex=660dc83f&is=65fb533f&hm=4be1043fe3fedcf62f5a83ba2ebe695ef587ee585d8ccedb0bbb680e6748c168&

[hollow silo]

hmmm

i will look into that

[distant lava]

Perhaps it was fixed? Idk. But that's what I get for throwing it on the servers without testing haha

[hollow silo]

it's strange because Enhanced Workbenches copies vanilla's code instead of referencing it, so QuickBench shouldn't mess with it at all

although QuickBench does mix into CraftingResultSlot, which Enhanced Workbenches does use

honestly i don't even remember the last time i left-clicked to pick up an item from the output slot instead of shift-clicking it out

in fact, with my fork of Enhanced Workbenches with QuickBench support, doing that crashes the game ^u^

(i will blame Enhanced Workbenches for doing things weirdly)

[urban drift]

was that never reported to either issue tracker?

[hollow silo]

i opened a PR to Enhanced Workbenches that should fix compatibility with QuickBench (and actually make use of it): https://github.com/Luligabi1/EnhancedWorkbenches/pull/9

i feel like i may be going about QuickBench integration the wrong way though 🤔

[mossy silo]

OH, F-Y'ALL-I:
Vinery's lattice quest in the FOW questline accepts lattices of all wood types, but the wine rack quest ONLY accepts the Vinery cherry wood wine racks.

Is this intentional? Cause it's kinda odd.

[jovial dagger]

Bug reports: always awsome.
Bug reports in #1028644155305496576: . xD

Regardless, will look into it. Cheers.

[twilit fossil]

Wasn't my intention but each size of rack doesn't have a unique tag and I don't know how to modify the quest files to add or options since the mod doesn't have the feature

[hollow silo]

the latest release of Enhanced Workbenches now supports QuickBench, thanks to yours truly (me)

[hollow silo]

this just happened on the NA server 🤔

er wait no it didn't

sorry my bad

[jovial dagger]

gimme a minute or two... doing something with EU now

[hollow silo]

i just left extra ingredients in the crafting station and instantly forgot about it lol

although now that i have your attention i wouldn't mind if you took a look at #1222952069497880626 :)))

[jovial dagger]

ooooh... thought you were saying NA had another workstation crash.. read too fast, my bad.

[charred zinc]

Suggestion.... 2!: VanitySlots
Link: https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/vanityslots
Why: It's like Cosmetic Armor but I am 95% sure it does not do a silly conflict/crash the game thing Please I just want to look fashionable.
ty for this second ted taljk....................

[urban drift]

conflict crash thing was a geckolib3 exclusive geckolib bad code problem and is not present in 1.20.1 since geckolib3 isnt

cosmetic armor should work fine

[charred zinc]

@/trent begging

[jovial dagger]

Do me a favor? Make a seperate #1028818867750965288 post with just what Ling just said? It will help me remember to test out CosmeticArmor (or Vanity Slots) now that it/they should work.

[trail barn]

god i would kill for cosmetic armor slots so bad

i wonder if theres a cosmetic trinkets mod? 😳

[hollow silo]

ArmorHide works for trinkets, but can only hide them

[twilit fossil]

Add delightful creators back, it makes making many foods easier, more fun and easily automatable
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/delightful-creators-fabric

[jovial heath]

Mod: Extended Cogwheels
Link: https://modrinth.com/mod/extended-cogwheels
Why: Would be nice to have a little variety in Create factories to help differentiate various processes (or purely for aesthetics!)

[jovial dagger]

[ come to think of it... all kinds of gears would be rad... beveled gears, planetary gears, gears with-in gears... ]

[boreal onyx]

Bump, to teach Inno LUA ^^ 😀

[vital gyro]

imagine adding it in and having to complete advancement quests for it to get a trophy so completionists would have to have learned a bit of lua

[boreal onyx]

That would be awesome! I'd definitely help with any quests for that 😀

[high seal]

Those would have to be optional...

No way most people are gonna sit there and learn a programming language just to finish a modpack

[boreal onyx]

They would be SO easyeeeee though. Idk how we would very or track that they actually did it though 🤔

[hollow silo]

no way most people are gonna sit there and do all of MI just to finish a modpack

[boreal onyx]

😅

[jovial dagger]

I am not joking... I think completing MI the first time or two takes more effort and concentration than learning Lua.
No doubt many would have strong pre-conceptions in conflict with that notion though.

( or, what unilock said faster than I could type, lol )

[hollow silo]

my point is just that people have different interests: some people might enjoy Lua more than MI, or vice versa :p

though obviously the grand majority here are going to favor MI

that's just the observable demographic of this community

[jovial dagger]

true true. also, MI isn't uncomfortably close for some to sounding like a job-seeking activity (aka, learning a programming lang).

they would be missing out though, imho. (not that I've learned Lua yet; just that programming languages can be fun to learn for their own sake)

[waxen hamlet]

I think learning a programming language via a mod pack is a great idea. More people learning how to program is never a bad thing

[hollow silo]

better idea: install Reflection on the official servers to make knowledge dangerous

[high seal]

🙄

[high seal]

yeah yeahhh

[boreal onyx]

All more great reasons of why this mod should be included 😄 ❤️

[hollow panther]

Back in AoF3, one of the last big things to do modpackwas to automate tofuburgers. This was before quests, but it was definitely on any completionist radar. AoF3 had the same diet mod as AoF7, and tofuburgers were the single best food to consume in the pack because they covered like 4/5 of the nutrition bases.

Unfortunately, this was back when AE2 couldn't autoctaft tofuburgers because the Croptopia cooking pot took durability damage per use, so the CPU couldn't keep track of the item due to the NBT change so it would craft a single tofuburger then freeze. The only other way in the pack was to learn LUA and have a series of two Computer Craft turtles crafting the tofuburgers. I taught myself LUA back then to get that done lmao.

To be fair though, I already knew some programming so it wasn't that hard.

[hollow silo]

luaburgers :)

[trail barn]

lurgofures

[wide oak]

After the issues with the cosmetic armor mod get patched is there a reason why we wouldn’t add it

[high seal]

we can try

i thought someone was gonna test it out

see if it works

[distant lava]

Because you asked

[wide oak]

Supposedly the heckling issue was fixed but a new bug replaced it

[wide oak]

Yay! (I am the one who asks Skyler)

[distant lava]

No... Like that's the reason we wouldn't add it...

[jovial dagger]

Slightly more detailed Cosmetic Armor discussion here: https://discord.com/channels/570630340075454474/1223399843204956302

TLDR: Should be fine. Who wants to test it thoroughly?
( I did before, maybe not so much on the thoroghly part, last time. )

[hybrid pelican]

I have a mod suggestion

It's called GiveDrayModeratorWon'tRegret

[jovial heath]

i've heard that mod has a potential backdoor

[trail barn]

nah its a good mod i tested it

[wide oak]

also cit resewn would be good for the modpack? it really just let texture pack creators do cool stuff

ig it is more of a thing that each person would add

but itd be nice that way if we share rps then people wouldnt have to go through the extra trouble

hehe trouble.

[arctic rose]

Easy emerald tools

[arctic rose]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/simple-emerald-tools-fabric

also polymorph

[high seal]

Don't we already have polymorph

[arctic rose]

we do?

well nvm then

but still emerald tools

[vital gyro]

forge equivilant is cyclic for emeralds tool :( sadge its not available for fabric

[high seal]

cyclic mad OP

i love it

[wide oak]

Some kind of custom music disc mod? I want to play some cool menacing music like the spot theme

Idk what mod is best though

[spiral marsh]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/spectral-decorations

[mossy silo]

I'm currently contributing to that mod! They needed some colored wood noxwood beam recolors, and brothers_trouble was having issues making them look right. So, I made the beam recolors for them.

I second asking for its inclusion. Brothers is awesome at what they do.

Not to mention the possibility of copper, iron, and gold tubings (my textures) to complement the pyrite tubing from base Spectrum.

😉

[wide oak]

Yoooo what?

When did that get released?

I’d be thoroughly happy if my mod made it in

Dealy

[tepid fable]

Did someone already suggest the following mod?
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/farmers-delight-refabricated

If so, does this pack need add-ons that aren't compatible with this new port? If not, I hope you guys can add this to AoF7.

[hollow silo]

If so, does this pack need add-ons that aren't compatible with this new port?
yes: Brewin' and Chewin', Farmer's Respite, Respite Creators, maybe others

[tepid fable]

Oof

So they would all have to be updated to migrate to the new port then...

[mossy silo]

Very, very recently. Within the past 2 weeks.

[oblique remnant]

what are you using to make those blocks?

[mossy silo]

The textures, I'm making primarily with Libresprite, with a little bit of Clip Studio Paint for color edits (but the color editing methods I use are easily applicable to free programs such as Krita.)
The preview blocks, I'm using Blockbench for.

[oblique remnant]

ok cool

[wide oak]

I just use only blockbench

Bc idk it’s easy to move stuff around

[mossy silo]

Here's the colored wood beams, btw!

[wide oak]

Wow that actually looks so great

[true kiln]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/emojiful

[high seal]

think we had this once in aof6 and it didnt play nice with patchouli?

[wide oak]

Oh my god I want this

[timber ibex]

you think correctly:
https://github.com/InnovativeOnlineIndustries/Emojiful/issues/78

[lofty parrot]

oh hey that thing breaks gloop too

that Inline library thing i'm working on could be used to replace it easily enough though probably

[mossy silo]

UwU

[wide oak]

Yay!

[wide oak]

And you said you were just a contributor

[mossy silo]

I contributed and I'm proud of that

[wide oak]

I should really get the pjs done they will look so great

But the amphoras paper patterns looked good

It might be a little harder for the pigment wood ones though

[mossy silo]

TY! I may take a crack at it later.

[wide oak]

Some sort of bartering shop block would be really nice because the coin system isn’t really working out

[distant lava]

On our servers, search player head, then check recipes
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/universal-shops

[high seal]

imma be honest

i failed to see this

u or AK also mentioned the anchor thing to stop ppl from getting to our base and i couldnt find any of the GOML heads

[distant lava]

Will not show in REI, except as a recipe for player heads. He did have REI integration, but it caused REI to load recipes twice. Was one of the issues with REI Initializing so long. So he removed that compat

[high seal]

so ik, i looked at player head recipes, i didnt see anything

i'll check again

[distant lava]

skill issue

I'll check when i'm home. I need to make a server info quest page.

[distant lava]

oh shit... wait... GOML isn't on there...

[high seal]

no universal shop either ig?

[distant lava]

yeah.... wtf... why did I not put them on...

[urban drift]

(maybe you were trying to keep modpack parity)

[fallow cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-sloth-lol-ha-haha-gif-13147656

[calm edge]

inno location leaked 👀

[high seal]

Leave me alone

[calm edge]

im not gonna harass you dw

[wide oak]

Well I might

[minor tinsel]

make a mailbox so we can leave gifts

[trail barn]

Pipebomb :3

[minor tinsel]

can we make those?

[trail barn]

Pipe bombs are craftable and findable

Spectrum late game but I'm addicted so it's no issue for me 😄

[minor tinsel]

oh my god.

[trail barn]

Eat amalgam

Even yummier

[vital gyro]

pipe bomb in your mail :)

[spiral marsh]

https://modrinth.com/mod/explorers-compass/version/1.20-2.2.2-fabric

surprised we dont have a structure compass yet

[trail barn]

id love a structure compass and constantly wish for one, but i feel like they wouldnt add it becuase itd be super op unless it was crazy expensive

[spiral marsh]

considering how far everyone is already, i feel like it wouldnt make that much of an impact imo, plus with how slowly chunks load rn, it makes searching a little bit worthwhile

[trail barn]

fair point

i definitely woudlnt be again it

[high seal]

"how far everyone is already"

the modpack isn't for public server players only, it's for anyone and everyone who wants to play the pack in general. other private servers, that could have started day 1 or will start in 4 months.

in general, yes it would be OP

[urban drift]

likely all the reasons you want it would be filtered out making it nearly useless for most things

[waxen hamlet]

this likely is not possible, but it’d be a cool thing to have progression locked. like a way to find a type of structure you’ve come across before would be less OP than just being able to locate any structure ever

[vital gyro]

hehehehe imagine putting the explorer compass at the end room for spectrum

[urban drift]

a quest reward for completing MI

[wide oak]

Isn’t that the replicator?

[urban drift]

replicator keeps getting nerfed. need more rewards now 😛

[wide oak]

idk duping is pretty powerful no matter what angle you look at it tbh

[obsidian hamlet]

is there plans to add the create :numesmatic mod?

[distant lava]

We are discussing it

[obsidian hamlet]

now we can force north to use create lol

[jovial dagger]

gentle reminder to put it there 🙂

[distant lava]

Eh. I think I was waiting for map support. But yeah. The shop thing I believe I figured we had numeristical overhauls shop block.

[jovial dagger]

i meant GOML

[distant lava]

Eh. I think I was waiting for map support

Also have to make sure I edit the config how I want

[wide oak]

This one requires simple voice chat but I’m still advocating for that one as well https://modrinth.com/mod/audioplayer there might be a better music disc mod but I want this so bad

This will let us have fun themes for bases and add ambient sounds of our choosing

Plus people would be able to sort of opt out of this by lowering their music disc sound

And simple voice chat is also optional for players🥺

[trail barn]

etched better

but also they already denited etched

[wide oak]

Isn’t that because it doesn’t work on this version and loader

[hollow silo]

because it's STILL forge-only on 1.20.1

[trail barn]

o

yeah id like to see audioplayer then

(i forgor 💀 )

[hollow silo]

there's also https://modrinth.com/mod/url-music-discs and https://modrinth.com/mod/vinurl which don't require Simple Voice Chat, but AudioPlayer is the only one on CursedForge

[wide oak]

URL music discs does not work

I have tried

It was a pain

[jovial dagger]

Gah, my reading comprehension... i didn't connect 'map support' to goml the first time; sorry.
Is anyone known to be working on that... for Xaeros?
I see they did merge a patch for Dynmap support. https://github.com/Patbox/get-off-my-lawn-reserved/pull/40

[hollow silo]

why is GOML needed if Cadmus already has claims?

[urban drift]

different methods and effects

Trent probably also doesnt like change

[hollow silo]

(i am not familiar with GOML at all)

[urban drift]

https://modrinth.com/mod/goml-reserved upgradable claim

[hollow silo]

neat

[distant lava]

GOML has forcefield. If you are not in their team, you will be pushed out/can't enter. Best form of greif prevention

[wide oak]

Ooh

[jovial dagger]

(what Trent just said)

[wide oak]

A lot of remaking claims though😭

[jovial dagger]

Funky UI though.

[distant lava]

But very annoying to come across in the wild with no way of knowing its a claim, unless you craft goggles of claim revealing

[urban drift]

cant you do that with cadmus? i know you can do it for other claim mods

[distant lava]

Not currently. But we can request it.

GOML has other augments too though. That probably would not get added to Cadmus, but are nice utilities

[urban drift]

but will the server disable them like it generally does

mainly just the flight one

[wide oak]

I would like to discuss this once the claim discussion is over

[jovial dagger]

Flight one was sorta bugged?

I remember coming across an old claim on 6 that still had it active... the effect never left me till I died.

[urban drift]

i would be concerned about music uploading to the server

[distant lava]

Yeah, I think I disabled flight and one other one

[urban drift]

the anti-teleport was nice though

[jovial dagger]

just adding force-field to Cadmus would be grand ... but then it seems that Cadmus has stopped developing for 1.20.1.
I guess it could be an add-on? idk.

[distant lava]

What?

I don't think stopped is the correct word here...

[jovial dagger]

My interpretation of their not making their own Xaeros compat for 1.20.1; as I understood it, that's how it was planned even before Wasabi popped up with add-on for 1.20.1.

[distant lava]

Continued in #dev-general lol

[hollow silo]

the music isn't stored on the server afaik; it's streamed from the internet directly to the client

[urban drift]

at least 2 of the options are for uploading the music to the server

i'll look at the last one though

does the server already have Simple Voice Chat or is that another mod that would be required?

[distant lava]

another mod

[hollow silo]

URL Music Discs and VinURL (the latter being a fork of the former), the ones i mentioned, only store a URL on the server; the audio files are downloaded to the client

[distant lava]

Its real nice, when the server gets a lag spike, the audio cuts out.

[urban drift]

i was speaking about the AudioPlayer linked one specifically

[hollow silo]

that's only 1 of the options then 😠

[distant lava]

We used Simple Voice Chat in kmbles server tour video. And yeah, when we got to a laggy base, the audio starts clipping

[high seal]

Man I love patbox 😭

[distant lava]

Seeing as our servers are basically 10tps when 20+ players with plenty of dips, that is not a good experience on top of a not great experience

[high seal]

Doesn't SVC spin up a separate server for the audio?

I forget where I heard that..

[distant lava]

idc what they do, that was a real world test of it

[high seal]

O

[urban drift]

the 1 mod has 3 different options for audio uploads

[hollow silo]

ohhh

yeah that is strange

i guess the server would just have to disable /audioplayer url then

which would make the mod a lot less convenient to use lol

[distant lava]

ComputerCraft can already be used as an audio player....

[hollow silo]

i was just speaking hypothetically

but i did forget about that

ComputerCraft is pretty versatile; if only writing code for it wasn't such a hassle

[boreal onyx]

Speaking of which.....^^

[vital gyro]

I dont know coding but I would like to petition the addition of that mod so I can force myself to learn ^^

[woven gorge]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/extended-drawers

[minor tinsel]

I think someone's recommended that before, but it was denied for a reason i don't remember

Currently the closest thing we have to storage drawers in AOF7 is Crude Storage Units and their upgrades.

[hollow silo]

and barrels from MI

[minor tinsel]

barrels aren't for a specific item tho, afaik.

and i know the reason i like storage drawers is bc they all depict the one type of item they're storing on the front, along with the name and amount

[jovial dagger]

Yes, that's exactly how MI barrels work.

You can lock an MI barrel to a specific item--a setting that they will retain when empty.
Though they are always single-item-type at a time.

Drawers win on the multilpe-types-per-block variants though.

[wide oak]

Currently aren’t storage banks just better?

Like they upgrade pretty good and they can hold insane storage later

[hollow silo]

MI barrels are probably cheaper, if nothing else

[spiral marsh]

this seems like a funny way to implement short range movement:
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/player-transport-ducts

[minor tinsel]

OH I LOVE THE SOUND OF THIS

[vital gyro]

I played with this mod on pokehann craft and I LOVE IT

it's very fun to use and funny too

[minor tinsel]

It looks to be for Fabric, too

i love crawling through Tubes 😊

[hollow silo]

The Viaducts are Back

oh it's not available for 1.20.1

[spiral marsh]

it says it is?

[hollow silo]

oh, the versions are marked for 1.20.4 and 1.20.1, don't mind me

[lavish lily]

mod: table top craft
reason: fun thing to do with friends on server! https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/table-top-craft-fabric

[lavish lily]

mod: Create Interiors
reason: PLEASE PLASE IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS TO BE FABRIC FOR SO LONG https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/interiors

[wide oak]

Mod: this one
Reason: I want to add music to areas so bad bc bases could use some really nice music

https://modrinth.com/mod/vinurl

[distant lava]

Once again, using computer craft you can do this

[wide oak]

Is there a video on how to do so?

[distant lava]

I know some of the scripts were posted in this discord, but that member was also banned. Not sure if it's still here.

[jovial dagger]

Late in the first 6 worlds, I used this to do that: https://youcube.madefor.cc

[wide oak]

oh i figured it out

just need to compress videos to hell and back to acutally use em

[jovial dagger]

Yes. That what’s was nice with the youcube “app” for cc… in-game you give it a url and got a converted stream in return that your cc terminal would play.
There was an option to play just the audio portion from a video url too.

[hollow silo]

holy shot bad apple
boutta have that playing on a bigass monitor 24/7 at my base

[wide oak]

Not if I do it first

[jovial dagger]

What beast have I unleashed? xD

Enjoy it! Just know it, like other things, it may get disabled on the servers if it causes too much lag.

(also, there’s the discord VC channels for sharing audio or video with-out stressing the MC server… albeit not “in world”.)

[hollow silo]

ComputerCraft's Lua coroutines each run on a separate thread, so it "shouldn't" cause lag

[wide oak]

*shoudhudodntnt

[wide oak]

It would be great if we could get this mod on the server https://modrinth.com/mod/spectral-decorations/version/A4JJxJYN

Next update should be pretty fire as well

Colored kindlings, beams, and hopefully if I can get it done in time, pajamas of the kindling and egg laying wooly pig

[wide oak]

^(32 of the 96 colored kindling textures are done, if I spend extra time on it it hopefully will be done soon

[mossy silo]

Someone already suggested this mod, but I second this again, I've contributed a few textures and plan to contribute more

[wide oak]

i would like to revisit the conversation around simple voice chat. its another optional mod, similar to harmonia

[distant lava]

Except its not. When TPS dips, VC cuts out.

Personnel Experience when Kmbles made the AoF6 server showcase video.

[hollow silo]

apparently Simple Voice Chat uses Minecraft's packet queue?? i thought its networking would've been entirely separate
(that's why it cuts out: if the server is lagging behind, it won't send any packets on time)

maybe Plasmo Voice works differently...?

[distant lava]

Anything adding more for the server to do, is a no in my book. Regardless of how they do it.

On a private server, those would be great things to have. On a public server not so much

Same reason we don't have web map.

[hollow silo]

that argument sounds a little silly to me, since all mods add more for the server to do (except purely client-side mods)
web maps at least don't struggle when the world thread is lagging behind (and some are quite fast these days, i.e. squaremap)

[distant lava]

Get rid of all the tech mods and the server would perform real well 🙂

[hollow silo]

introducing All of Nothing

[high seal]

Actually... good idea...

[distant lava]

Pretty sure there was some issue when we first did AoF7 that prevented using this. Seems to load now. But its just blank 😦

[hollow silo]

wrong dimension selected?

it doesn't always select the overworld by default for some reason

[distant lava]

Clicking the icon in the lower left only gives you Minecells
8080/?world=minecells_insufferable_crypt&zoom=0&x=560&z=-108

[hollow silo]

there's a side bar on the right

[distant lava]

omg am dumb

[hollow silo]

if you mouse over it it'll open up to a dimension selection menu

[distant lava]

ok still blank, but now shows players

not blank still dumb

lol

probably gonna take awhile to populate

[hollow silo]

you can run /squaremap fullrender <world> to render every chunk that's been generated so far

<world> being minecraft:overworld, ad_astra:the_moon, etc.

[distant lava]

sounds expensive lol. Only 8 people on though, perfect time

[hollow silo]

less expensive with squaremap than dynmap at least 😭

my server is located in my bedroom and doing a full render with dynmap would raise the local temperature by a few degrees by the time it was done

[distant lava]

actually seems to have not affected it at all so far. Nice. Thanks for reminding me it exists. Really wish it could handle BlueMap though haha

[hollow silo]

bluemap is awesome, but yeah, very resource-costly to run

[distant lava]

Could of course just download and host it on a seperate server

yay

[hollow silo]

er wait, web maps usually run their rendering threads async with the world thread, i think? so even bluemap probably wouldn't impact TPS too much, unless the server hardware was really limited

[hollow silo]

i do think there's charm in squaremap looking identical to vanilla in-game maps

[distant lava]

its more the generating the maps. Could also just do that during off peak times

[hollow silo]

oh hey, this means my giant garfield statue will now be visible online!! (as soon as it exists)

[distant lava]

The train tracks are visible from space lol

[distant lava]

Guess this didn't work out haha

[hollow silo]

so it seems !

[distant lava]

odd it took so long

[wide oak]

i would like this mod. it is just really helpful to use different skins without having to relog and spend a ton of time changing skins(plus you could totally do skits and funny bits) https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/fabrictailor

this will also be helpful for the wedding that will be happening in 4 days

(it can be completely server side but there are some benefits to having it on client side)

[high seal]

Personally

Imb11's skinshuffle mod is sexier

[wide oak]

well i personally dont care what the method is, i just want skin changey mod (especially for the wedding)

[mossy silo]

Dan and I were wondering - what's the status on Heph in AOF7 2.0?

I know there are custom recipes in the works, but Heph isn't in the current version of the pack. When can we expect it to be?

[distant lava]

Whenever the bug where it breaks all kubejs scripts gets fixed

[mossy silo]

Oh my word! Jeez, that's an issue.

Didn't know that was a problem. Hope things work out.

[hollow silo]

simply switch from kubejs to something that doesn't suck 😇

[distant lava]

yeah right... because that exists...

[hollow silo]

CraftTweaker, JsonPatcher, vanilla datapacks, etc.

[distant lava]

Right... because those don't suck...

[urban drift]

KubeJS comes with experience and historical data

[hollow silo]

CraftTweaker has been around far longer than KubeJS has

[urban drift]

CT comes with its own language, jsonpatcher is limited to json patching, vanilla datapacks suck

and yeah CT cant carry over changes from AOF3-6

[hollow silo]

"it comes with its own language" isn't a particularly good argument; it's not like scripting languages are all that different from one another, and ZS is already syntactically similar to JS

JsonPatcher is good for getting rid of recipes

which you can't do easily with vanilla datapacks for some reason

because they suck, i suppose!

[hollow silo]

it's hard to fix a bug that's not reported to the developers :^)

(i see no mention of it on the issue tracker)

[distant lava]

Probably because Alpha is on our team and in our Dev Server....

[high seal]

Vanilla datapcks 😭

[hollow silo]

i can't read minds :p

[hollow silo]

you can't deny that simply modifying a single existing recipe is easier with a datapack than with javascript

[high seal]

lies cause idk how to do it with plain datapack!

[fallow cipher]

its for sure easier with javascript what

datapacks bad

[hollow silo]

at least it doesn't require a mod that breaks with hephaestus :)

[hollow silo]

skill issue...?

[fallow cipher]

that issue was fixed long ago

its a new issue

[hollow silo]

well this was a pointless conversation then

implying it ever wasn't 🤔

[fallow cipher]

it kinda was but opened up for another issue

Alpha knows about it

Has to be fixed in portinglib

[hollow silo]

this one?
https://github.com/Fabricators-of-Create/Porting-Lib/issues/98

[fallow cipher]

more portingconfig

[distant lava]

Ah right

[hollow silo]

the "Unexpected custom data from client" bug

i assume

[fallow cipher]

Yup

This probably happens with other mods too as a couple ships new portinglib

Create probably does with latest

[hollow silo]

TropheusJ said it only occurs with mods that make use of Porting Lib's config module

which is just Hephaestus afaik

[fallow cipher]

config syncing?

[mossy silo]

Maybe it was right to pursue cybersecurity instead of programming. Dependency hell sure is a thing...

[urban drift]

that just means you are on the other side of dependency hell "you cant use module X because it has a vulnerability"...but X is a dependency of Y which is a dependency of your thing. "submit a POAM on how you are going to stop using this sub dependency that is central to the function of your software"

[distant lava]

lol

[hollow silo]

configs implemented via Porting Lib are synced by default, i guess?

Farmer's Delight Refabricated also makes use of Porting-Lib:config it seems

[fallow cipher]

there is still also an issue with looping of creation of configs even tho said config already exists using forgeconfig/porting config

Literally had 15+ config backups of heph

[hollow silo]

hm, not sure i noticed that

forge configs usually limit themselves to 5 backups at most, so something else might be going wrong

[fallow cipher]

looks like this issue is fixed?

[hollow silo]

maybe a mod incompatibility in AOF7 specifically, since it's not happening in my modpack

[fallow cipher]

https://github.com/Fabricators-of-Create/Porting-Lib/pull/101

[hollow silo]

that does fix the issue, but i'm not sure if it's the "right" fix... it looks too simple...

[fallow cipher]

do you have any mods using forgeconfig?

[hollow silo]

forge config api port?

yes, at least one

[distant lava]

yeah

[fallow cipher]

[hollow silo]

bizarre

[fallow cipher]

It happens randomly too, happens with dark mode everywhere as well

Rarely tho

[hollow silo]

usually forge config backups end with -x.toml.bak (x being a number)

idk if you just have file extensions turned off though

[urban drift]

you know what else does that? iCloud syncing 😛

[hollow silo]

beloved autosyncing online storage :)

[mossy silo]

H)FOEHOFHSE lmao

[hybrid pelican]

Can we get a mod that bullies veil?

[trail barn]

yes this thing

what it do

[boreal onyx]

It's amazing

TLDR: Digitalize your item and send them wirelessly via CC:T

[trail barn]

🔥

[tepid fable]

I feel like this could be a drop in replacement for Hephaestus, should it stop being maintained.
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/truly-modular-arsenal

This mod is basically an open source alternative to Tetra.

There's also an armory add-on.
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/truly-modular-armory

[distant lava]

Hephaestus will be in next update

[tepid fable]

I see

I hope those two will be considered for AoF8 then.

[distant lava]

That does look interesting

[obtuse apex]

I see Europe

[mossy silo]

https://modrinth.com/mod/replymod
Has some sort of bug while riding Ad Astra vehicles that will kick you from the game, otherwise works fine

[cobalt fjord]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/exposure

I used it for a few days on my own personal server and worked flawlessly. We found it way more fun that we thought it would be to take pictures of all kind of things and plaster them around our houses. It's just fun.

[jovial dagger]

Have seen that before (but not played)… looks very charming to me; I learned cameras and prints on film and a real darkroom and all that jazz.

[cobalt fjord]

nice, my family really enjoyed it. who knows what all cool things people could capture

[wide oak]

i think a bit of integration with spectrunm would be good

like pigment acts as dye as well

[minor tinsel]

https://modrinth.com/mod/mcrgb

I think this would be very useful for builds

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/block-gradients

also this

[mossy silo]

Devs, please test and tinker with this before you implement it. It appears to conflict with SVC, client-side. Game boots but won't allow SVC to connect properly if you have MCRGB enabled

[minor tinsel]

good to know!

i'm currently testing the second one, Block Gradients

[mossy silo]

So now that we have SVC... custom music discs/goat horns mod?

[mossy silo]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/sandwichable
I'm sure this wasn't put in AOF7 for a reason... hopefully that reason is not bugs or crashing?

Inb4 ||incandescent amalgam|| sandwich

There's no limit to how tall the sandwiches can be, it seems.

[vital gyro]

make the "sandwhich tower" where its a sandwhich that is as tall as a building

:3

[hollow silo]

make the "tower sandwhich" where its a building that is as tall as a sandwhich

Ɛ:

[wide oak]

Erm what’s going on with the ankles ribs and eyes….

[wide oak]

Also I’d love custom music discs

[mossy silo]

Figura!

It's a Figura avatar of my fursona.

My fursona being:

Figura should be in the pack methinks but not everyone has the energy or knowledge to make an avatar

[wide oak]

well if its optional then it would make sense. if it can be purely client side then it would take some convincing

[mossy silo]

It's entirely client-side. Only other people who have the mod installed can see your avatar.

[hybrid pelican]

Is the custom music discs like implementing our own music, or just more music discs?

[mossy silo]

Adding custom audio to music discs

[hybrid pelican]

FUCK YEAH

My event just got a whole lot better

Holy shit this is so good

[wide oak]

well we need to hope it gets added quick

in what, 5 days?

[distant lava]

Computer craft can stream music

[hybrid pelican]

if custom music discs do get added, I am most definitely using it for my Event this time around

[jovial heath]

potato sandwich go brrrr:

[jovial dagger]

at first glance, I thought... voltaic stack pile?

[mossy silo]

Sandwichable please

[distant lava]

Good old days of AoF3 and people making sandwich stacks that would kick other players viewing it because it was so tall

[jovial heath]

get sandwich't

[oblique junco]

I remember I did a cc setup to make me sandwiches

[hybrid pelican]

I have a great mod suggestion

ADD BACK HOPPER BOTANY POTS PLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASE (I dunno if it's available for this or would cause problems, I just have a dream)

[high seal]

No

[hybrid pelican]

:(

Why not

I'm hungry

Then fix the MI greenhouse 😡

I'm pretty sure I was one of the only people that used it on aof6 but

[jovial dagger]

Create farms are really simple. Not terribly much more space than the 2 blocks to grow anything (dirt+plant).

Or rather, the extra space for harvesting contraption is amortized over the growth space.

[hybrid pelican]

Anger

But that won fit inside my soon-to-be(in months) mega big gargantuan MI factory(will never happen)

[jovial dagger]

Well, how many plants do you want to grow?
Just a line of blocks with harvesters glued in front, rolling back and forth over a rectangle of farm land, carried by a cart contraption riding tracks along one side of the rectangle, isn’t much extra space for even a modest “garden” of like 8x8 or whatever.
Same mechanism easily expands to stupid long/bug farm plots.

[hybrid pelican]

Yeahhhh

But I'm like

Lazy

Also would that work with trees?

Also, I enjoy being a "purist"

By not using other mods inside of My MI factory

[jovial dagger]

True—pots win on small size for growing trees. But one could count that in their “OP” column.

[hybrid pelican]

Meh

They are Op

That's why we need em soo badlyyyy

[wide oak]

how possible would it be to add more items and blocks to ponder for aof? like just things explaining how to use other things

[high seal]

Custom ponder is... tedius

I can experient with it tho

[wide oak]

i mean ponder is insanely cool so if someone figures out an easier way to implement it i would probably start doing my own just because of how sick it is

[hollow silo]

there's this, for writing Ponder scenes via JavaScript
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/ponder

[spiral marsh]

this might be in here already, but if not, it's helpful pre-ae2
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/where-is-it

[oblique junco]

or perhaps: https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/regex-search?

[hollow silo]

how modest :p

[wide oak]

Spectral deco models I’m making

[wide oak]

I think there is already something like that

Might be inventory profile next

[lavish lily]

this is cool!

[wide oak]

i saw this and its super cool https://modrinth.com/mod/surveyor

[onyx totem]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/transmog
Allows any item to be transformed to look like any other item.
I'd take this over Cosmetic armor.

[wide oak]

Does it make the armor model change?

[onyx totem]

You can take a look at the mod page to see what it does.

[wide oak]

well i did a breif check but ill spend more time looking into it

huh. i dont hate that

[jovial dagger]

I don’t think it would cover the case of wanting invisible armor, leaving one’s skin visible… would it?

[wide oak]

button

[onyx totem]

It does

Void Fragment

Required to craft the Transmogrification Table. Also allows you to make your items invisible!

[jovial dagger]

Ah, “void fragment”, missed that. Ty

[wide oak]

well i think this would actually be a better option to cosmetic armor

cool mod fs

[jovial dagger]

Does look neat… might try it out myself later today, time permitting

[wide oak]

i will try it out when i have time as well

i want to see the extent to which i can mess with this

do you know if you can use commands to get fire blocks or water source blocks

spectrum will have the ability to in like a year or 2

[onyx totem]

don't think that's possible anymore

[jovial dagger]

Just buckets I think, for lava and water.

[onyx totem]

You could do a full kibe tank?

[jovial dagger]

WorldEdit or /set command could do sources I think

[wide oak]

if only waterlogged blocks

actually

you know what would be sick

for creative people

the ability to make a piece of armor display more than one block

actually

how would this mod conflict with trinkets?

[onyx totem]

shouldn't?

[wide oak]

i mean more like

could i smush more block models on my player

[onyx totem]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[wide oak]

testing will commence in like an hour i think

[onyx totem]

Haven't tried it with trinkets before, only armor and other items

[wide oak]

id be interested to see if mob heads work as well or if they would be small

[onyx totem]

everything should render as they normally would if you'd put them on your armor slots

same goes for items, they should render as they'd normally render as the original

[spiral marsh]

this mod is cute, that's my entire argument for it:
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/labels

[wide oak]

one question: does it work with modded blocks and items

[hollow silo]

the topic of wearing blocks reminds me of this mod
https://modrinth.com/mod/wearthat

[jovial dagger]

OMG. Wrench Pants made real!

[spiral marsh]

yes, it works with nearly anything

forge version displaying the Codex Arcana from Mana and Artifice

vs the item itself

[mossy silo]

That's beautiful, but also I really hope a configurable limit exists now

Objectively funny problem

[mossy silo]

Re: Trent saying "ComputerCraft can play music"
Fair point, but the custom music disc mod also adds custom goat horns, which are much more appropriate for short sound bites

I want me a goat horn of a clip of the late TinFoilChef going "Out of my way, chump!" in Fallout 4

(Rest in peace, love the guy)

Alternatively, I have an Ancient novelty sound bite remote sorta thing that I could record the sfx off of

[wide oak]

And also computercraft music has a file size limit that restricts to like 50 seconds of round max and it’s a pain to manage

[wide oak]

Also I like this a lot

[mossy silo]

A 50 second limit is reasonable for such a big modpack

A custom music disc limit of like a minute would be fine

And for goat horns, they wouldn't be so long

[wide oak]

But with things like url music discs I think they could be like 3 mins no problemo

[mossy silo]

That might prove hard to moderate

[hybrid pelican]

Awh geez

If they will be set to a time limit, I'm going to have to findnew music for my event (coming probably not soon)

[wide oak]

are you pushing it back again until you can play music?

[hybrid pelican]

Not the wedding

[mossy silo]

This is decently cursed and I don't expect it to actually be put in the pack, but...
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/shear-cows

On the off chance...

I didn't expect it to be for Fabric 1.20.1 but it actually is lol

[chilly pier]

This mod allows for compatibility between FTB ultime and Hephaestus:
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/tamago

[spiral marsh]

mod removal suggestion:
rare ice

reason:
it steals your tools if you right click any ice, including the ice made by the simply swords ice hammer, which means the hammer ends up in the ice which then despawns

[hybrid pelican]

Sounds like this might have happened to you

[urban drift]

relevent, untouched issues https://github.com/shedaniel/rare-ice/issues/14 https://github.com/shedaniel/rare-ice/issues/16

[spiral marsh]

several times, it's especially common when fighting the night lich

[distant lava]

Yes. Hence why we made Alpha update it 🙂 will be in next update

[wide oak]

are we also getting the replacement for cosmetic armor?

this one https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/transmog

[onyx totem]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/size-controller
Would be pretty neat to have, being able to shrink and go between small blocks and pipes/cables.

[wide oak]

I actually think this could be fun

[waxen hamlet]

^^used to be able to do this with hex casting, very fun

[minor tinsel]

i actually agree with this. unless the item stealing can be disabled in config, i second the removal of Rare Ice.

[spiral marsh]

me doing this with pehkui because i like being smol

[mossy silo]

Adaptive Tooltips
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/adaptive-tooltips

The tooltips on some of my items - thru Zenith, lots of enchants, etc, are Way Too Long and go off the screen. This or any other tooltip mod that fixes this kind of issue please

[mossy silo]

https://modrinth.com/mod/blahaj

[spiral marsh]

neruina - ticking entity fixer
reason: there's a lot of ways to cause a ticking entity crash and brick servers

[mossy silo]

THIS THIS THIS, I picked it up from your bug report thread to utilize it in testing Ad Astra pipe crashes

[mossy silo]

Shoot, this is a Quilt mod. A Fabric port does exist, however.

[mossy silo]

Wait, I'm getting confused... more research needed.

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/blahaj-fabric

[hollow silo]

the way it "fixes" ticking entity crashes is by straight up deleting the erroring entity, which is very not ideal
imagine, for example, if your entire AE2 storage was wiped due to something that could have been fixed by hand :p

[spiral marsh]

block entities are just suspended actually

the demo shows that only mobs that cause ticking crashes are killed

i'd test if i knew how to cause AE2 to have a ticking entity crash

[hollow silo]

ohh, well that sounds more reasonable then

[arctic rose]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/farmers-knives

more knives for farmers delights

botania, advanced nethrite, mythic metals,

and more

[elder slate]

is there a reason why extended drawers isn't in the pack? https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/extended-drawers

[hybrid pelican]

cuz.

[elder slate]

lol. I was wanting it in aof6, but was told that we have reborn storage, which is kinda mid imo

[hybrid pelican]

AOF7 will have sophisticated storage

there is no point in asking to add this mod anymore

[elder slate]

does sophisticated storage have a controller that can I could just put a storage bus on?

[onyx totem]

yes

[elder slate]

SWEET. then I'll rescind my comment and wait patiently for the update 😛

[high seal]

Think storage drawers on crack

[elder slate]

I've used sophisticated storage on forge. just didn't know it had a controller, so i didn't compare it to storage drawers

[high seal]

Maybe its a new update

No idea

But knowing how sophisticated backpacks are, I assume it'd be storage drawers on crack

[elder slate]

the sophisticated set are pretty goated.. it should replace iron chests/barrels.

[high seal]

Yeah, it's been a while since I've messed with it

[elder slate]

hopefully not the travelers backpack. i really like that set

[high seal]

Can't wait

[elder slate]

oooo. I just saw this in my youtube feed
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/dungeon-now-loading

it looks sick AF

[jovial dagger]

Props for the fun, and ballsy, name.

[wide oak]

it does look really cool

but here is the thing

if this guy wants to make 99 more boss rooms

that will tame MANY years

[still thorn]

Pretty much. Its basically a chest version of the backpacks with all mods included. Ie: jukebox chest? XD

Tbh sophisticated backpacks/storage is good enough to replace travelers backpacks, packed up backpacks, banks, MI barrels, TR storage units and both item collectors

[wide oak]

It’s really good

[wide oak]

has the consensus changed on url music disks or is it still a no?

i really want the 1.21 songs early

[high seal]

Youtube

[wide oak]

yeah but i hope you know what i mean

[high seal]

I do

[gloomy osprey]

Sophisticated storage and backpacks since it is now updated to 1.20?

[mossy silo]

Neither of those mods are Fabric mods.

[still thorn]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/sophisticated-backpacks-unofficial-fabric-port

[mossy silo]

Huh. I didn't think to look for an unofficial port. Thanks.

[still thorn]

not sure how good of a port it is. only tried the official forge version

[mossy silo]

Another backpack mod means I can accidentally NBT ban myself much quicker! /j /lh

[still thorn]

much rather have this one than the ones we have though

[waxen hamlet]

sophisticated is my favorite backpack to use. upgrades are undefeated

[gloomy osprey]

Lol if it's a mod I enjoy I'm in their discord

[arctic rose]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/farmers-knives

[vital gyro]

I thought sophisticated was already in here and someone wanted to play music disks on the go and mentioned "yea, you can just get the upgrade for this backpack" and last minute realized it wasnt in the pack and we were both sad

[elder slate]

Since RS2 isn't gonna be ready any time soon, what is the likelyhood we'll get Tom's added?https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/toms-storage-fabric

[wide oak]

i like tom's a lot, especially bc its great for people who would rather place a bunch of chests than try to figure out the absurd tech mods

[elder slate]

@wide oak true. Also with early game storage search. Rather than deal with vanilla chest organization, until mid-late game

[still thorn]

I like toms but i seem to remember a performance issue when you have a decent amount of chests but its been awhile so not sure if thats still a thing

[hollow panther]

I just want a backpack mod where I can hide the backpack. Having a ton of clipping mesh on my character looks ridiculous!

Happy that Artifacts let's us hide the meshes.

[urban drift]

wireless ae2 terminals make the best backpacks

[still thorn]

With chunkloading, sure

[hybrid pelican]

well, or with a 3x3 chunk base)))

[wide oak]

Or you lock yourself to a single chunk and see how far you can get

[jovial dagger]

New ae2 add-on mod idea: the PAN (Personal Area Network) micro ae2 setup: terminal, plus storage buses for all your synced danks and other enderchest-style storage… but the whole shebang fits in your backpack.

[hybrid pelican]

All these parodies on ae2 are so funny honestly

[jovial dagger]

For those with wanderlust but no chunk force-loads.

[hybrid pelican]

ae2 itself is easy, but 'we' need to make it even simpler

this system with restrictions on cables is unique

[jovial dagger]

And awesome

[hybrid pelican]

and this is wonderful, without this ae2 is not ae2

[jovial dagger]

I was being (mostly) serious… wireless terms are awesome, but the pain of server force loads beings unpopular with server admins is real.

(said admins have good reasons, ofc)

[hybrid pelican]

By the way, you can track under what ip I access the servers

[jovial dagger]

And your point is?

[hybrid pelican]

none, just interesting

like, it’s probably stored on the server in some logs

or it doesn't make sense

[wide oak]

Maybe a different acronym than “pan”. We don’t particularly need aroused people filling the server ||/j ofc||

[jovial dagger]

lol, everything's a double entendre if you look hard enough.

[wide oak]

remove “look”

[hollow silo]

???

[wide oak]

||pansexual joke 🤫 ||

[hollow silo]

that... is not what that word means

[wide oak]

||that’s the joke||

[hollow silo]

...

[wide oak]

Just like how adhd doesn’t stand for mayonnaise on an escalator

But someone did that

Or was that simp

I forgor

[jovial dagger]

brothers is right... that is one of the meanings.
heck, may people seem to think 'Subordinal' is the adjective form of 'Subordinate'... it is not.

[wide oak]

Found it https://youtu.be/prB4O6oiFZg

Borthers

[jovial dagger]

yeah, morning, pre-foccee... can't tYPe

[wide oak]

Are you a S.I.M.P?

[jovial dagger]

take this convo to general? bit off topic.

[jovial dagger]

Was indeed. Thanks for reminding me to compile a log of all ips and names. See ya, Virles o/

[hazy crystal]

Mod: Create: Framed
Link: https://modrinth.com/mod/create-framed
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/create-framed
Why: Additional blocks for creativity and design with Create builds. I myself would like to have colored Framed Glass construction blocks in the pack.

[oblique remnant]

Mod: Create: clockwork
Link: Mod: https://modrinth.com/mod/create-clockwork
Why: PHYSICS I WANT TO DO STUPID STUFF AND COOL MACHINES

idk if it causes lag problems or smth

[hollow silo]

Valkyrien Skies will explode in a modpack as large as AOF

[high seal]

We already have lag problems on the servers

You're just asking for them to explode

[oblique remnant]

ok lol

didnt know it was this bad for the server :/

[wide oak]

is emotecraft already on the server? i think it would be REALLY NICE

https://modrinth.com/mod/emotecraft/versions

this would be really nice

and funny

[jaunty mauve]

and since voicechat is in the pack why not add https://modrinth.com/mod/emotetweaks with this

[wide oak]

YES! I assumed that was in the base mod

[wide oak]

also if you want to look into it a bit more then id reccomend you look at rubber ross's videos

[spiral marsh]

this mod looks interesting, not sure how well it plays with projectile damage attribute though
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/bren

[wide oak]

did we reach a conclusion on this @jovial dagger ?

[trail barn]

i checked and that actually look SUPER cool

it looks like it does work on armor, so weve got that AND making items look silly

[jovial dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/tattoo-annie-mad-magazine-what-me-worry-back-gif-20417735

Uh... I feel called out
I have no idea
What, me worry?

(wth is that gif anyhow? MAD magazine getting hardcore)

Transmog sounds cool; have you'll tried it? No problems?

[wide oak]

i will do that today(just woke up), and ill mess with some strangely specific combos. are there any blocks or armors that would probably be most likely to have an issue?

[hybrid pelican]

Gonna use my 2nd amendment rights on brother whenever he annoys me

[wide oak]

ok so from immediate testing it works perfectly

blocks on the chest slat dont show, but ill check more into that

ah so blocks cant go on anything but the head slot

seems intentional?

ok this mod works very well, i will try a few more things then i think this is good

ok @jovial dagger it has officially passed the besmirched test, along with anything else i could come up with. i think this will work well.

[onyx totem]

did you test botania armors?

or spectrum armor(bedrock one)

those are the two mods that i know to use somewhat different rendering than default

[spiral marsh]

for athame and ||treasure hunter|| shenanigans:
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/disguiseheads

[wide oak]

I tried the spectrum one and the bewitchment one, I can double check the botania stuff later but it’s working perfectly so far

[onyx totem]

kinda already exists in polymorph potion form, but, would be a neat addition

[high seal]

No

Polymorph is cursed and crashes shit

[onyx totem]

huh?

[high seal]

The potion

It crashed like almost all the time

Crashes

[onyx totem]

huh, never had that issue, and i've been using it a lot

[wide oak]

it specifically crashes people with prefixes like vip

or affixes or anything

normal people and it works fine

[high seal]

Oh

That's the problem

That's fucking stupid

[wide oak]

Yeah it’s something that shouldn’t be an issue

Bewitchment is cool but one of the least polished mods I’ve seen

A lot of things that are supposed to be used can crash

Like running out of mana when on a broom

Or 2 people having each others vampiric poppets

Or you having your own poppet

It’s kind of really bad that that happens

[mossy silo]

Me running around with an Etho head on to confuse people:

[wide oak]

If only you could get tag locks with heads I’d be able to become dantdm or something like that

[safe helm]

has someone already suggested explorer's compass? sorry, i dont know how to search in threads

[minor tinsel]

i think it might be considered too overpowered, according to some past comments

[safe helm]

even with a recipe tweak?

[minor tinsel]

No idea. I found a Staff response to it (Inno) but don't think I found any Team AOF or Dev responses to it.

[safe helm]

i see

ty

[high seal]

https://modrinth.com/mod/fabric-rep-system so i can downvote dray

[still thorn]

I mean...for starters it's not for 1.20 and thieves/griefers get insta banned anyway

[wide oak]

i do like the idea of a reputation system. it seems really helpful

[jaunty mauve]

I would have ton of upvotez

real

[high seal]

||I was joking||

||reputation would be absolutely chaotic||

[wide oak]

But we like that

[minor tinsel]

i kinda like the idea of it

mostly because i love getting Good Boy Points

[wide oak]

lets people know if they being mean

[hollow silo]

i ported this mod to Fabric 1.20.1 / EMI; if TeamAOF is interested i can see about putting my port on CurseForge too
https://modrinth.com/mod/tconjei
https://github.com/unilock/TConJEI

AOF7 would just have to switch to EMI (which is the superior recipe viewer anyway)

[still thorn]

ooo since i already use EMI I'll go ahead and pick this up as well. thanks for the link

[hollow silo]

np :)
it does look a little whacky on large GUI scales; maybe the material stats category should be paginated

[still thorn]

however i dont see a published version link?

[hollow silo]

you can get it from GitHub Actions

i'll make a GitHub release now tho

https://github.com/unilock/TConJEI/releases/tag/1.1.0%2B1.20.1%2Bfabric

[still thorn]

ty

[jovial dagger]

Think I'll place my thumb* on the scale—in favor!—on this one.
Will certainly give it test drive on my own.
TY for prompting me to look at it's docs, Paperz!
[* lol, my thumb assuredly carries little weight; no promises here.]

[cobalt fjord]

Yes please lol

[wide oak]

YES I WANT THAT ONE SO BAD

i think i posted it here before

one thing though

you should be able to use spectrum dye in the camera

*pigment

[mossy silo]

I'll give this a try as well, swap REI for EMI

[molten mortar]

Agree, would be amazing!

[jovial dagger]

More fun with Exposure here: #showcase-discussion message because I'm a doofus and posted it there instead of here.

[molten mortar]

I feel a big post coming in

[jovial dagger]

@molten mortar : #showcase-discussion message
Yes, I did take some simple test shots, mainly to just to see the NBT pictures have. That’ll be fun to make use of too.

[molten mortar]

Love the selfie haha

[jovial dagger]

Did not have “normal” shaders on; I should try that out too.

[molten mortar]

I wonder if it works with shaders on

[jovial dagger]

Ikr? F5 gets you the “selfie stick” view.

[molten mortar]

Looks like an interesting mod for me to expriment again with modding to integrate with spectrum perhaps

[jovial dagger]

Indeed. This is Exposure’s wiki talking about adding custom filters, which is where it’s “/shaders” command came up. Neat stuff to learn from that code base, I bet. https://github.com/mortuusars/Exposure/wiki/Additional-Information#custom-filters-️

[molten mortar]

Thank you for sharing. I will have a look later. Had the mod already for few weeks in my locked tabs

Squaremap has also been there for some time. Might integrate that first in Harmonia. But I am still thinking about adding forge compat. We'll see

[jovial dagger]

A shot with the kind of shaders people normally mean when they say "shaders":

[molten mortar]

excuse me that actually works also when you turn them off ?

[jovial dagger]

My first shot was with no game shaders.
This second one had them on, as you can see from the double layered "reimagined" clouds, and the lighting.

The first one was also with black & white "film" so that's why it looks like that.

[molten mortar]

The photograph stays the same when you switch between on and off ia what I mean.

So it actually uses client information is what I am going for here

no built in raytracer of sorts haha (no idea why I was expecting that)

[jovial dagger]

Uh... I imagine the developed photo wouldn't change... it's like map art once made, i think.
Hang on, will get another screen cap...

[molten mortar]

for science

[jovial dagger]

Same photo that was taken with shaders on, now being looked at with the game shaders off:

[molten mortar]

I like that, thanks for trying that out

I will play with it later. I have some other ideas to try out.

[hybrid pelican]

Bro wtf ;w; I stopped playing this

Can't downvote me if I don't play

[trail barn]

why cant i react wtf

🔽

womp

[wide oak]

Though admittedly I think having an upvote or downvote system that was just visual would be really helpful

[mossy silo]

Dray may have you blocked.

[trail barn]

I suspected that. Honorary downvote

🔽

[vital gyro]

Oh, Hi Dray! :D

[wide oak]

i have arrived to say

transmog works 100% of the time though my testing

[still thorn]

You check with ad astra?

[trail barn]

what is up with ad astra? super cool mod but like 1/4 of the crashes are from it (not a ton but way more than most mods)

[still thorn]

Not sure tbh .. as someone thats not a fan of space related things, i only do the mod when i have too

[hybrid pelican]

I don't have him blocked

[mossy silo]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I just guessed. I stand corrected and five foot one and a half.

[hybrid pelican]

GD height reveal?

[wide oak]

ooh ill check that now

[wide oak]

sure enough