#My first attempt at a script and I want honest feedback
cosmic shore
serene sphinx
Three separate minions that modify outsider count is an interesting move.
The Fang Gu + Ogre combination allows for a +2 evils on a script (since the Fang Gu could jump to the outsider who isn't the evil Ogre), which, if I understand correctly, is generally frowned upon.
serene sphinx
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cosmic shore
Yeah!
Also I already see a problem with hatter
Will probably replace it with barber
gleaming tulip
- gossip is immensely strong without more positive deathmod, as an extra kill only happens when you execute an outsider
- a zombuul without the kill restriction is also immensely strong
- town crier is sad about that bootlegger much more than a flowergirl
- Fool is pretty darn unbluffable
- lots of o-mod isn't inherently bad but this seems excessive
cosmic shore
Im deff thinking of replacing gossip
Also it does have the kill restriction, just not for executions specifically
Any other type of death works
gleaming tulip
Virgin works best with spy on script like in tb so it only hard confirms one player, it's still ok, just really strong
gleaming tulip
Any other type of death works
Namely?
cosmic shore
Well the idea was a gossip or godfather death
gleaming tulip
Those both happen at night
gleaming tulip
You may have
serene sphinx
I don't think Homebrewed Zombuul works:
Zombuul's design philosophy is a compromise:
- Evil team gets to have the Demon be executed once.
- Good team gets to avoid night deaths unless they don't get a kill in the day
The homebrew removes the downside of the compromise while keeping the super powerful upside, leaving the homebrewed Zombuul unworkable in my eyes.
cosmic shore
Yeah
gleaming tulip
It works on bmr cause there are many ways an execution doesn't cause a day death
cosmic shore
But this makes me want to even FURTHER rework zombuul
serene sphinx
Xaan + Baron is a weird combination where either the Baron does actually nothing or it's much much harder to solve if it's a Xaan game.
cosmic shore
To not trigger on night deaths like I thought it did
serene sphinx
Due to the way the outsider mods impact each other.
cosmic shore
Xaan + Baron is a weird combination where either the Baron does actually nothing...
I want a xaan 4 to be possible and to counter the downside of the vigormortus
serene sphinx
I don't think the Baron needs to be on this script, then.
serene sphinx
That's the Xaan gimmick.
cosmic shore
Oh my
serene sphinx
You see the [X Outsiders] part
cosmic shore
NOW I CAN ADD ANOTHER KILLING MINION
serene sphinx
that means the storyteller determines how many outsiders the game starts with and that's the night of mega-poisoning
cosmic shore
Yeah Barron is pointless lol
serene sphinx
If you really want normal Zombuul, I would add a DA here and replace Gossip with another day-death-prevention townsfolk.
cosmic shore
That makes sense
serene sphinx
Now you've got a fun engine where DA prevents death in the day allowing for extra zombuul kills and godfather adds extra deaths in the night, masking zombuul nothingburgers. 😃
cosmic shore
I think this script needs a tea lady
serene sphinx
Yep makes sense.
Just a tentative idea here, that if you replace Godfather with Assassin you keep the total control over outsider numbers through the Xaan while giving evil more control over night deaths. The biggest concern about that to me is that it might make the script too close to Bad Moon Rising, but Godfather is already a BMR role.
naive axle
what's the new script