#The Academy ∇

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arctic olive
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I guess so yeah

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I'd rule that only one character being wrong is enough

arctic olive
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I'm planning to rework the jinx anyway, I can just say they get a real grim

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Or honestly that they can't misregister

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It's easier that way and spy can still mess with truthiness far too much

arctic olive
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Prob gonna update sollos's wording (no mechanical changes)

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The Demon & a good player (you know who) might register as the other's character & know this. If the good player is executed, evil wins.

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A little clearer, at the cost of 1 character of length

lost sandal
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I was curious about multi-Demon characters and found these. They are great but how is good supposed to fight a Majorix?

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They have just 3 days to execute 2 evil players, right?

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Even if the Majorices vounts don’t count, good may not notice until it’s too late.

tiny sluice
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So that’s the indicator to execute 1 person each day

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If D2 ends with no-one winning while 2 executions have occurred, you know 1 of the executees is evil and the other good

lost sandal
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On d1 good won’t know yet that Majorices are in play. And the odds of executing an evil player in the first 2 days depend a lot on the info town gets

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And that’s even before thinking about the voting ability, which may make town think someone is going to be executed only for it not happening and so no executing someone that day

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I mean, based on the Almanac, if 6 votes are needed and 5 good + Majorix vote then ST says the nominee is about to die but that’s false because the count is actually 5

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Nominations end and ST would say that the nominee doesn’t die and day ends

tiny sluice
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No different from Butler/Legion voting

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Also executees can be due to Virgin and Cere

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Spy procs Virgin, but shouldn’t misreg to Majorix

lost sandal
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Still, good’s strategy to be safe should be to execute with +2 votes more than necessary to be sure

dry lava
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Isn't the princess jinx useless (except with exorcist)

tiny sluice
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So you can execute 1 player without it ticking down on your end but it also eats into the time

arctic olive
# lost sandal I was curious about multi-Demon characters and found these. They are great but h...

I'll admit, Majorix hasn't actually been tested yet, but there's a couple things in place to make the character work on paper

  1. Majorix adds an extra evil player. This means there are more valid targets for the good team to hit successfully
  2. Evil has reduced voting power, making it pretty much impossible for them to force an execution. Good controls executions, evil can only get close by specifically convincing good to vote
  3. Town can read the script, they know that executing evil is the top priority. It's not meant to be a beginner character, I'm not worried about players not reading the script
  4. Getting a vote fail on day 1 specifically isn't all that bad. It means you've found a demon, at least to some extent. The info gained from that is quite strong (and evil will try their best to avoid it), and it's less punishing than executing a good player anyway
arctic olive
arctic olive
dry lava
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but also means it's kinda optimal for the princess to self nom

arctic olive
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"unless it's the princess"

lost sandal
lavish glenBOT
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Gave +1 Thanks to @arctic olive (current: #177 - 301)

lost sandal
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I think the Majorix could work perfectly even removing the voting part of the ability completely

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It’s still 3 days for the game to end

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And if kept, I think the no-vote should be revealed at the end of the tally. Like the ST counting 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and then saying “the total is 5”. So people would know a Majorix voted

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Good still would need to execute 2 evils and they only get 3 chances at the most

arctic olive
arctic olive
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Especially because I want Majorix to work with other demons (as well as as a solo demon) and this makes it much louder

glossy salmon
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i kinda wanna see a majorix-riot script

arctic olive
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That would be cool yeah

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In my head there's a Majorix/Escapod/Ketos/Absolut(?) script but I haven't fleshed it out at all

dry lava
arctic olive
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Correct

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The idea is that I write a town that can somehow deal with this

dry lava
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I think it takes away from the experience of each demon but maybe it's fine

tiny sluice
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Escapod and Ketos is impossible to distinguish

glossy salmon
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ketos is the upside down ship i remember that i just dont remember what it does

woven oar
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Ketos is "After Day 5, evil wins. Each night*, guess which Townsfolk a player is: if right, the end comes 1 day sooner. [-1 Outsider]"

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Absolut is "Townsfolk abilities yield false info except 1. Evil may (once, before nominations) publicly guess who: if right, or after day 5, evil wins"

tiny sluice
glossy salmon
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i think i’m with moll on this one, 2 silent timers is probably the sweet spot

tiny sluice
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No but

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Ketos and Escapod look mechanically similar

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To others from the outside

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So it’s hard to tell who’s who

dry lava
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my sweet spot is 1 but the more important part is reducing how many things has to play around

Majorix and riot are pretty similar so playing around both is pretty reasonable but playing around Majorix and ketos is very different since one encourages outing all info and one to keep quiet and that means good can just randomly fuck up by guessing the demon is of one type

drowsy pelican
tiny sluice
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Well uhhhh

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At least you know the info is false

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(If and only if those info roles don’t get themselves executed)

dry lava
dull scaffold
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60% of the time, its a vortox/false-info-demon game every time Clueless

arctic olive
arctic olive
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I'm gonna draw an icon for once in my life

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You might see a release within the next 45 minutes, or possibly not, idk yet

arctic olive
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jk my aunt called right after I said that and I no longer have the time

arctic olive
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i had the time

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(afterward)

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Subtractor

(Townsfolk): Each night, choose a character: learn 3 players they aren't.

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“The missile knows where it is at all times because it knows where it isn't.”

The Subtractor knows what people aren't.

Each night, the Subtractor can choose any character on the script. They then learn any 3 players, none of which are that character.

If the Subtractor chooses the same character a second time, they might get a new set of 3 players, but don't have to.

Examples

Autumn is the Subtractor that chooses Boomdandy. There is no Boomdandy in play, so she learns any 3 players. The next night, she chooses No Dashii. Amy is the No Dashii, so Autumn learns 3 players that aren't Amy.

How to Run

Each night, wake the Subtractor. They point to a character on their character sheet. Then, point to any 3 players that aren't that character.

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    {
        "id": "subtractor_the_academy",
        "image": [
            "https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/The_Academy\/subtractor_the_academy.png",
            "https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/Academy_Alternate_Universe\/subtractor_academy_alternate_universe.png"
        ],
        "firstNightReminder": "The Subtractor chooses a character. Point to 3 players that are not that character.",
        "otherNightReminder": "The Subtractor chooses a character. Point to 3 players that are not that character.",
        "name": "Subtractor",
        "team": "townsfolk",
        "ability": "Each night, choose a character: learn 3 players they aren't.",
        "flavor": "The missile knows where it is at all times because it knows where it isn't. ",
        "firstNight": 56.6282,
        "otherNight": 76.6282
    },```
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a simple character for you today

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The Academy ∇ (We Aren't Legion)

sturdy shell
arctic olive
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not really designed for teensies yeah

gloomy onyx
sturdy shell
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real

arctic olive
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yeah thats just not a great interaction lol

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i still cant tell if subtractor barrkoad is a bad interaction or not

arctic olive
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which in a real game might happen with legion but thats it

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also not a good interaction

serene egret
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Y'know I like it when people make characters that aren't super crazy

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like this is an interesting townsfolk that works well with other info sources to potentially get a knight ping and more

arctic olive
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ya i aim to make script glue about as much as i make the flashy stuff

which results in massive vibe clashes if you scroll through the academy almanac, but i dont mind that

serene egret
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And same with minions and even bait roles (generally convenient bluffs to back into) or the drunk or something

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Naturally you'd recommend this with quiet minions+demons?

arctic olive
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quiet demons

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minions are less important and more up to the script writer

arctic olive
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script defining flashy character without official precedent followed immediately by what could reasonably just be filler is just funny to me

serene egret
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it's balanced like how snv is balanced

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on a tightrope

hazy goblet
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I think I know this character

arctic olive
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Woah same that's so crazy

serene egret
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no way legion but townsfolk (worker real)

tiny sluice
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When do we have Legion (Outsider)

arctic olive
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I'll give you a hint that it's none of these 👀

gloomy onyx
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Can't wait for legion but fabled

arctic olive
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Waffles why would you say that I need to make it now

brisk glen
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not if I take it first

serene egret
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traveler legion where like 7/12 players all suddenly travel away out of nowhere

tiny sluice
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Oh wait

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I know this one

arctic olive
brisk glen
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Legion Fabled?

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Okay I have some ideas

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I have one that immediately came to mind but thinking a little further it’s very much a Demon

tiny sluice
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We don’t have Legion Outsider yet

arctic olive
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Legioutsider (Outsider): If the Demon publicly guesses who you are (once), your team loses. [Most Townsfolk are Legioutsider]

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Actually wait that's not the worst thing in the world

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Worker but if evil figures it out you just lose on the spot

brisk glen
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Does it have to guess all of them?

arctic olive
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No

shrewd sphinx
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Demon gets on block & just guesses

arctic olive
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Though this is unpolished rn

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Yeah this is true

shrewd sphinx
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it's very unlikely that they're wrong, altho it is possible

arctic olive
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I could add a "before nominations" but also that might just be bad

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I'll throw this in the almanac below the line and see what happens to it

vapid cipher
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Love the character, did it really have to be called the subtractor 😭

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You could've called it the missile and it would've been cool with the flavor (which is also cool)

arctic olive
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I could rename it tbh

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Idk how much "missile" really connects intuitively but meh

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I'll keep the icon tho it works for both

glossy salmon
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i don’t like the name missile

glossy salmon
arctic olive
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Missile and also subtraction sign (more missile tho)

glossy salmon
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what’s wrong with the name subtractor?

vapid cipher
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it's laaaaame

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"yeah i'm the subtractor" boooo!

rancid trench
glossy salmon
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i see where you’re coming from but missile is even worse for that exact problem imo

vapid cipher
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"i'm the missile" has so much aura wdym

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"subtractor" gives nerd emoji

brisk glen
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Gonna make a snake minion called the adder

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And then the goofiest demon of all time, the equalizer

glossy salmon
glossy salmon
vapid cipher
vapid cipher
dull scaffold
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you're all nerds taking this power over your heads

tiny sluice
brisk glen
arctic olive
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The collection is LITERALLY called the Academy and its icon is LITERALLY a math symbol

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We can get nerdy sometimes

tiny sluice
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You should get more nerdy

arctic olive
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I'm still waiting for myself to make a character that makes sense to flavor as "student" or "pupil" or something

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Also "troika" bc Majorix was almost named that and I think it's just cool but Majorix is 2 and troika is 3

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I won't force it tho ofc

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(there was a time where Majorix was 3 and it would've been awesome)

glossy salmon
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i think there was a time where most people were 3

tiny sluice
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There was a time…

arctic olive
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OH ALSO I wanna make a character with a phonograph as an icon

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That just sounds fun

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Of course none of these are actual mechanical ideas so they might just not happen

tiny sluice
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Peak nerdiness :unfire:

drowsy pelican
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what the actual fuck

woven oar
ruby vapor
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I think this school is evil.. Idk i just think that having a supernova and NOT a 6 fingered zombie as deskmates seems malicious

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Idk maybe a NOT 6 fingered demon is actually chill

brisk glen
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Wdym dude we aren’t legion

ruby vapor
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Actually there's but it's followed by the 7th

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So we're good

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legion 🖕

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Couldn't find a single finger emoji

ruby vapor
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This is how we embrace the botc spirit and gamble it all

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Put it all on demon exe

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And win it big

shrewd sphinx
arctic olive
hoary flume
ruby vapor
arctic olive
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Horde

(Traveler): People may travel in as Hordes on your team. Other Hordes die with you & get no vote token. You don't count for exile vote majority.

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“A billion is a lot.”

The Horde is many players that act as one.

If a Horde is in play, other non-players are allowed and encouraged to travel in as additional Hordes. They will always be the same alignment as the original Horde.

If one Horde dies for any reason, all do. The first Horde to die keeps their vote token, but the rest lose it because they were killed by the Horde ability.

Hordes don't count towards the vote threshold required to exile a Traveler (even non-Hordes). They count as players for all other purposes.

There is no limit to how many Hordes can be in play at once.

If a player has called for the exile of a Horde today and the Storyteller believes there hasn't been a meaningful change to justify the time spent on another exile, they may deny the exile of a Horde. If no Horde's exile has been called for today, they cannot do this.

Examples

Alice, Bob, Charlie, Dave, and Eve travel in together as Hordes. The Storyteller decides that they will be evil, and they all learn this & learn that Zack is the Demon. Later, Zack kills Dave at night. In the morning, all of the Hordes are dead, and Dave has a vote token while Alice, Bob, Charlie, and Eve do not.

There are 50 Hordes in play, and 10 other players. All of them are alive. 30 votes are required to execute a player. 5 votes are required to exile a player. A Horde player is exiled. They die & keep their vote token, and the other 49 Hordes die and lose their vote token.

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How to Run

If Horde is in play and someone would like to travel into the game, consider making them the Horde, especially if there are only 1 or 2 Hordes. They must be the same alignment as the other Horde(s).

If a player calls for the exile of a Traveler, do not include living Hordes in the vote threshold for exile. Count all other Travelers, and count all votes as normal.

If a Horde dies, all other Hordes die as well. When announcing their death, also announce that all other Horde players have no vote token. Indicate which Horde still has theirs.

If you run out of Horde tokens, more Hordes can still travel in. They just won't get new tokens; their alignment still matches the existing Horde.

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    {
        "id": "horde_the_academy",
        "image": [
            "https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/The_Academy\/horde_the_academy.png",
            "https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/Academy_Alternate_Universe\/hordegood_academy_alternate_universe.png",
            "https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/Academy_Alternate_Universe\/hordeevil_academy_alternate_universe.png"
        ],
        "otherNightReminder": "If a Horde died tonight, all other Hordes do as well. They lose their vote tokens.",
        "name": "Horde",
        "team": "traveller",
        "ability": "People may travel in as Hordes on your team. Other Hordes die with you & get no vote token. You don't count for exile vote majority.",
        "flavor": "A billion is a lot.",
        "otherNight": 71.628
    },```
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The Academy ∇ (Let's Go Gambling!)

woven oar
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Peak

vapid cipher
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is this the billion lions to the rest of clocktower's one of every pokemon

arctic olive
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yeah basically

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the only difference is that in this case the billion lions would lose if town was united against them

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oh also i updated the sollos wording like i said i would

rancid trench
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THIS ICON WAS HORDE???

arctic olive
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Yeah lol

shrewd sphinx
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ahem

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The rendering on that icon is so cool

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like, it's so subtle, but I know it took a bit to get the red & blue to overlap like that and it looks really cool

arctic olive
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Ty lol

glossy salmon
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wait was there an icon before

arctic olive
glossy salmon
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maybe i’m hallucinating

arctic olive
glossy salmon
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the icon should be an actual real photo of you with a speech bubble saying “there’s a D”

brisk glen
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I have one let me go edit it lol

arctic olive
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Photo of me??

brisk glen
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yeah

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i can steal one from instagram

glossy salmon
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lmao??

brisk glen
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Hystrdoxx if you will

glossy salmon
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i have some really good ones

arctic olive
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Sure just don't post it outside like my DMs

brisk glen
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I won’t lol dw

arctic olive
rancid trench
arctic olive
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Oh lol

brisk glen
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Let’s go gambling

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Aww dang it

vapid blaze
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squ4ll died in the night

ruby vapor
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And get every bystander to become one

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So we have 100 players stacked on top of eachother like in that one cartoon about 3 bears

gloomy onyx
ruby vapor
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Let them suffer

arctic olive
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100 player horde is the dream I think

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(a healthy horde size caps out around 10 I think, but I was intentional in making a design that could expand forever)

dry lava
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If you made tokens for them, how many would you make?

dull scaffold
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polypsychics when hordes enter the function:

arctic olive
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Maybe 4 or 5 actually so I don't communicate that 3 is like a maximum or something

dry lava
arctic olive
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I haven't been able to playtest with more than 3

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And a Horde of 10 is very different in a 7+10 player game than a 15+10 player game

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10 might be too much though, it's totally possible

ruby vapor
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I think that 101 would be too much

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100 is fine tho

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Just find enough carpets to sit them onto

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Or make a single person be the messenger of the horde with the live video call with all 100 members

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Taped on them

glossy salmon
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force them to speak in sync

earnest crag
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Have them do 1 word each

steel burrow
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Fully balanced

arctic olive
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So true

glossy salmon
arctic olive
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I don't remember it was a while ago

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One thing I did learn from that playtest though: horde is not immune to the advice that travelers shouldn't join late into the game. Someone joined as the third horde pretty late and just didn't know what was happening

glossy salmon
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tbf neither did the other two

sturdy shell
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I've been trying to make one for so fucking long

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time to [+20 Players] into a botc game-

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no but in all seriousness though, this has immediately become my favorite traveller just because of accessibility reasons for us in particular

arctic whale
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i cant remember if there was a public origin story

arctic olive
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But yeah that's actually super awesome I'm glad :D

glossy salmon
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my concern is that a good portion of horde’s thing is being able to physically split up and talk to different people at the same time before coming together to coordinate and that’s a little difficult with one body

arctic olive
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Sure but also I see no need to stop a system from using it like that

glossy salmon
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oh of course not

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i wasn’t trying to say that at all

sturdy shell
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don't ask

steel burrow
sturdy shell
# steel burrow \*asks*

the said npc is canonically a world-hopper who universally appears as a continuity character across all my d&d and daggerheart campaigns (therefore implying that they are all part of the same multiverse, three shouts to future campaign setups)
think the personality & 4th wall awareness of deadpool with a (un)healthy dose of beetlejuice, except that this gremlin happens to carry around Haru, the Tome of Creation (Artifact) and a infini-storage™-magical-crystal-who-knows-the-fuck-how-many-copies-of-world-breaking-artifacts-she-has-in-there
her favorite bullshit is to drive the PCs insane with a blend of in-and-out-of-game commentary that creatively exploits the most unfunny thing in the in-game situation and comparing to the most out-of-pocket meme that I could improvise on the spot

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to demonstrate:
she's done this on seven different occasions
(technially me bc I'm playing her but it's funny af)

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all in seperate discord servers

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I'd send more antics but I don't think flooding this channel's a good idea XD

arctic olive
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Unifier will remain a fabled but I do plan to be releasing lorics 👀

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I don't think I'll start releasing any until nrb s3 is over though so I don't double up on official characters

glossy salmon
arctic olive
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Nah TPI is gonna release Sollos just you wait

tiny sluice
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If TPI snipes my characters it’ll be insane

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/j

dull scaffold
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@arctic olive horde json where.......

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i need it for game soon and i cant find it ! !!!

arctic olive
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It's also in the Google drive inside Masterlist.json, assuming I remembered to update it

dull scaffold
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i saw that but for some reason my mind processed it as a sorceror

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not the horde

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hnhgnh

arctic olive
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Oh lol

dull scaffold
lavish glenBOT
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Gave +1 Thanks to @arctic olive (current: #179 - 303)

dull scaffold
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this is for a monster mash script im running

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halloween frights n all

arctic olive
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Ooooh nice

dull scaffold
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wait if u do text multiday can i rope you in as the 15th regular player?

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its super scuffed but heres what it is:

arctic olive
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Why are there sixteen billion minions

dull scaffold
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10 minion funnies

dull scaffold
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IT WAS A MONSTER MASH!

arctic olive
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Thx for the offer but I'm busy with school and other things 😔

dull scaffold
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damn

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alr

glossy salmon
dull scaffold
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wuh

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theres trickster

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and horseman

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thats good enough

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wuh tyhe huh

glossy salmon
dull scaffold
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ah

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well i didnt plan for this

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script doesnt have exe survival

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atleast i got THE HEADLESS HORSELESS HORSEMAN!

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so thats spooky dooky enough

glossy salmon
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just slap a DA on, lawyers are scary

dull scaffold
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sighs... pink candies your house...

glossy salmon
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nOOO

dull scaffold
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@arctic olive idk if u tested horde before but its being run for realsies

arctic olive
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Yippee!!!!!

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I have run it but only once

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Tell me how it goes when it's over 👀👀👀

serene egret
arctic olive
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Ur right

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👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀👀

serene egret
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ahhh now I understand what you're saying

tiny sluice
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I’m also testing a Trav for this

glossy salmon
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how did it work out for y’all?

tiny sluice
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The game is still in progress

sturdy shell
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yeah it's multi-day

dull scaffold
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you frying chicken in there or what?

peak apex
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Oh my God

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😭

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I was lurking and I dropped my phone

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I've been stalking different homebrew collections for inspiration loll

arctic olive
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LOL

drowsy pelican
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(Bonus points if you change the character type too)

peak apex
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That sounds fun! I've made a couple homebrew characters before, mostly just in my head lol- even tried making icons for a few but I've never like documented them or anything, but with another server homebrew character comp on the horizon I was thinking of actually submitting and entry this time lol

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I also just love reading more homebrew characters, I haven't really got that into homebrew so it's always fun seeing what ideas other people have came up with and if they're similar to my own

drowsy pelican
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Yeah that’s true actually lmao

peak apex
drowsy pelican
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(It’s a compilation of collections)

arctic olive
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yet again theres about a 50/50 shot i release a character today

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just need an icon rn

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which is faster me finishing this icon or me getting too hungy

rotund raft
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Resist the hunger

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We are hungrier for a a new character

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Unless your blood sugar is low

tiny sluice
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The hunger will win

arctic olive
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it's quite cool, if a little glitchy

arctic olive
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Highroller

(Fabled): Each night*, if at least 2 good players live, each evil player may choose to die.

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“Aww dangit!”

The Highroller lets the evil team choose to die.

Examples

Diego is the Shrike who is bluffing Gambler. He chooses to die at night via the Highroller's ability.

Siddh is the Pukka, and Kohava is the Evil Twin. Siddh decides to die at night in order to gain enough social trust to convince town to execute the good twin. Because the Evil Twin's ability is active, the game continues even with a dead Demon.

How to Run

Each night except the first, if at least 2 good players live, wake each living evil player individually and show them the Highroller token. If they nod their head yes, they die--add a shroud to their token. Put them to sleep, and repeat this for all living evil players.

Depending on the script & which characters are in play, you may choose not to wake the Demon. In many cases, saying yes would lose the game immediately, so you can skip that step entirely.

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    {
        "id": "highroller_the_academy",
        "image": "https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/The_Academy\/highroller_the_academy.png",
        "otherNightReminder": "Wake each living evil player separately. If they nod, they die, unless only 3 players live. Put them to sleep.",
        "reminders": [
            "Dead",
            "Dead",
            "Dead"
        ],
        "name": "Highroller ∇",
        "team": "fabled",
        "ability": "Each night*, if at least 2 good players live, each evil player may choose to die.",
        "flavor": "Aww dangit!",
        "otherNight": 71.0628
    },```
tiny sluice
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Wowee

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The 20 is so neat

arctic olive
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ty lol it's the zelda font

woven oar
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Great icon and fun character

shrewd sphinx
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What's the issue that this fixes?

arctic olive
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It makes more characters bluffable

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So like if you want a gambler for example

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But you also want loud minions

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Great, the Highroller can fix that

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It's like a death mod sentinel

rancid trench
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it gives evil a way to bluff characters that die in the night without putting assassin on the script

glossy salmon
arctic olive
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I mean they can coordinate during the day

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I'd rather it interact better with more things than be marginally easier to run

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It's like not that deep tho and if you wanna run it where they wake together go ahead

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(given that this is already evil sided I don't think it needs to be more evil sided)

glossy salmon
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i see no problem with “you may wake evil players together or individually”

arctic olive
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I'd rather not put it as a recommended thing bc coordination isn't part of the character

glossy salmon
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fair enough

serene egret
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Yeah I like this a lot, you can tell a custom script writer made it lol

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we have fibbin for misinfo, sentinel for omod, now high roller for evil nightkills

arctic olive
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The Academy ∇

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More is coming I just haven't solidified the flavor for the next one so idk what the clue will be

past light
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DEATH MOD SENTINEL!

arctic olive
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The Academy ∇ (Quickly Running Out)

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Idk I couldn't think of a better clue even with the flavor in place

serene egret
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no way the thread name is clearly a reference to a timer demon that ends the game on day zero

arctic olive
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TRUE

grim path
#

I’ve been there thinking about legion outsider
-# If the Demon publicly guesses who you are (once), your team loses. [Most Townsfolk are Legioutsider]
Could it work if the evil team instead had to guess a good player that isn’t legion outsider?
Causes misinformation by causing legion outsiders to claim townsfolk and vice versa.

arctic olive
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Oooh maybe

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The character is deeply flawed in its current state, that might be a way to fix it

tame sparrow
# glossy salmon

I love the art on your Pumpkin token. It's much better than my last attempt at a Clocktower pumpkin.

brisk glen
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it doesn't belong to biscuits

brisk glen
glossy salmon
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yeah i can barely draw a stick figure

tame sparrow
arctic olive
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Time Eater

(Minion): If you are executed, a good player learns this & your team wins each dusk unless a living evil player is executed. [-1 Outsider]

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“Time is money. Money is power. Power is pizza. And pizza is delicious.”

The Time Eater blends in with the Outsiders until it's too late.

If a Time Eater is in play at setup, one Outsider is removed from the bag and replaced with a Townsfolk. If there were already no Outsiders, nothing else is removed.

If the Time Eater is executed, a good player will learn that this happened tonight. They don't directly learn who it is.

Once this has happened, the Time Eater's team wins at dusk if a good player is executed, if a dead player is executed, or if no player is executed. If a living evil player is executed, nothing happens, but the effect remains active.

If an execution would cause good to win, it does so before the Time Eater's ability causes evil to win. For example, if a good Demon dies by execution (and no other Demons live), good wins, even with an active Time Eater.

Examples

Aba the Time Eater claims Doom Prophet and gets executed on day 2. On night 3, Nerdguy the Subtractor learns that a Time Eater was executed. He is promptly executed the following day, and evil wins.

The Time Eater is executed, and a good player learn this. The next day, a Minion is executed, followed by an evil Townsfolk, followed by the Demon. Good wins.

How to Run

While setting up the game, before putting the character tokens in the bag, remove one Outsider character token and add one Townsfolk character token. (If there are no Outsider tokens to remove, do not add a Townsfolk token.)

If the Time Eater is executed, place the LEARNS TONIGHT reminder on any good player. Tonight, wake them, show them the THIS CHARACTER SELECTED YOU info card, then the Time Eater token. Put them to sleep.

Afterward, if a good player is executed, or if no player was executed today, declare that the Time Eater's team has won.

Jinxes: #1399910044413460582 message

#

    {
        "id": "timeeater_the_academy",
        "image": [
            "https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/The_Academy\/timeeater_the_academy.png",
            "https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/Academy_Alternate_Universe\/timeeater_academy_alternate_universe.png"
        ],
        "otherNightReminder": "If the Time Eater was executed today, wake a good player and show them that the Time Eater is in play.",
        "reminders": [
            "Learns tonight"
        ],
        "name": "Time Eater ∇",
        "team": "minion",
        "ability": "If you are executed, a good player learns this & your team wins each dusk unless a living evil player is executed. [-1 Outsider]",
        "flavor": "Time is money. Money is power. Power is pizza. And pizza is delicious.",
        "otherNight": 9.628
    },```
rancid trench
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so swag

arctic olive
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The Academy ∇ (Quit Your Yapping)

tiny sluice
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Omg my character is being released! Real

rotund raft
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Your team wins Each Dusk is awesome

brisk glen
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I don’t give a swag

unborn stag
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Holy shit characters designed for disincentivizing outsider executions are so based

arctic olive
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The fun thing about this one is it invites the script writer to include the most absolutely devastating outsiders to keep alive

unborn stag
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Yeah it’s perfect for home brewers

arctic olive
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Great with doom prophet 👀

unborn stag
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Full academy script when

arctic olive
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I've made 3 townsfolk

unborn stag
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Already enough for a threensy

arctic olive
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Yeah because Subtractor works in threensies

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And so does surveyor

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Actually all of these townsfolk are comically bad to put in a threensy

glossy salmon
#

surveyor is awesome lmao

past light
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yippee boomdandy sidegrade!!!

arctic olive
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Surely this is the only one right guys

desert turtle
glossy salmon
arctic olive
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Guys I forgot to think about jinxes for time eater

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The only one I can think of off the top of my head is mystic and maybe pithag because good demons cause problems

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But maybe I just put in the almanac "if the execution of a good demon would cause good to win normally, they win despite the time Eater's ability"

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That was a very quick 4 🔥 reacts

arctic whale
#

would Lil M cause that problem?

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probably ot?

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I dont think giving it to a good player works that way

arctic olive
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Uhhh yes that would interact like that

arctic whale
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oke

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Wielder?

arctic olive
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I think I just make this an almanac thing rather than jinxing it with everything

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The thing about wielder is now I'm remembering that I actually thought out a jinx and just forgot to write it down

arctic whale
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Lleech?

arctic olive
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It's the boomdandy jinx but it lasts forever if it procs

arctic whale
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no almanac thing

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executions are before dusk

arctic olive
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Lleech... yeah that one just needs a jinx

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Oh are they

arctic whale
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wait...

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is it? Because the game ends before dusk

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So Time Eater wincon doesnt proc

arctic olive
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Almanac "if an execution causes good to win, it does so before the time eater's win condition activates"

arctic whale
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yeah. clarifying how RAW works anyways

arctic olive
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That prob fixes everything but Wielder

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Which should be jinxed anyway

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And that jinx is going on the wielder instead of the time eater for consistency

arctic whale
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Viz isnt a jinx. Its ust something that would be funny if Vizier werent louder than a foghornstapled to the trunk of ten elephants

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Alsahir jinx it is

arctic olive
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I could see a vizier jinx like "if the vizier is executed, they register as dead to the time eater" which is janky but

arctic whale
arctic olive
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Or TPI could give vizier the ability text it deserves "if you are executed, your team wins"

arctic whale
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not the "double tap Viz forever"

arctic olive
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Shouldn't have executed the time eater

arctic whale
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You could also double tap a Psychopath forver, but that doesnt need to be jinxed cause like... go ahead, evil still gets 2KPN

arctic whale
arctic olive
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Yeah

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The psycho actively trying to die would be really funny

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Wait they can self kill

arctic whale
#

and also like, the only reason they would is if good needs the info or is waiting for he demon to kill candidates

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because otherwise the psycho can just keep swinging

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also, here;s a weird thought experiment

A Time Eater holding Lil M gets executed. Mastermid is in play

arctic olive
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Ok I'm prob just gonna update the almanac and put a jinx on Wielder

arctic whale
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Can good win?

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(i know thats not jinx but is good softlocked?)

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wait no they kill the MM

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that satisfies both

arctic olive
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Yeah

arctic whale
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Also...

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Plague Doctor

arctic olive
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Exe any living evil player

arctic whale
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Thats a jinx

arctic olive
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Oh ur right

arctic whale
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Minion gets the ability :)

arctic olive
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Alch, on the other hand, is just awesome

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Might need to cut the setup text tho

arctic whale
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MHD ass moment where you sneakily get yourself executed because town are cowards reasonable and productive members of society

arctic olive
arctic whale
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Oh the Time eater day starting immediately

arctic olive
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Though that kinda goes against supporting TE... but so does scripting it with PD at all so I think I do it

arctic whale
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Also funny sotflock

tiny sluice
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What happens if the Time Eater themselves are the final evil?

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Like good Demon and all

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Good Minions

arctic whale
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  1. Travel in evil Voudon Day 1
  2. Execute the Time Eater
    3 You & the dead Time Eater dont vote
  3. Profit
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this assumes you could find the Time Eater of course

arctic whale
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Step 1.5 is the Spy finds the evil Voudon and tells them what to do :)

arctic olive
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Not the minions tho

tiny sluice
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Oh

arctic olive
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Wait guys the storyteller can be executed which means PD TE work RAW

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This is a flawless interaction with no flaws

past light
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dog isnt Alch TE busted

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wait stop

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hammer time

rotund raft
arctic olive
glossy salmon
steel burrow
unborn stag
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If the ST is executed their time eater ability goes off and they can win. Obviously

arctic olive
arctic olive
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Time Eater Jinxes

Alchemist: If the Alchemist has the Time Eater's ability, an Outsider is not removed.
Plague Doctor: If the Plague Doctor is executed & Storyteller gains the Time Eater ability, it activates immediately as if a Time Eater had been executed.
Wielder: If the Wielder gains the Time Eater ability, a Minion gains it instead & learns this. If they are executed, they do not lose the ability.

serene egret
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wait why do you need the alch jinx? just because it limits bluffspace for evil in a way you don't want?

arctic olive
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It's -1 outsider on a townsfolk

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It's just not good design

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I think the bag with 7 other characters plus a doom prophet and the bag with those same 7 characters plus an alch time eater will be at very different balance points

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But RAW nothing else needs to be different about them to be a legal bag

serene egret
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oh wait yeah it's like a free space to remove an outsider true

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It's a cool alch ability tho, confirming you in like f5 could be huge

grim path
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For sale: outsider legion shoes, never worn.

arctic olive
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Yeah lol

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I don't think that character really has a way to make it work

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I also cut the other minion because pixlate had the idea independently and then he actually put effort into it and I didn't

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So at that point he can just have it you know

tiny sluice
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Yap yap yap

tiny sluice
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I will never quit yapping

arctic olive
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Gasp

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I need to find the time to finish this character

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I've thought a lot about how it would work

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It's hard to run

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But definitely doable

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Also, it's a really good interaction with doom prophet in particular 👀

tiny sluice
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Yap more

tiny sluice
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Pixlate strikes the coup de grâce!

arctic olive
arctic olive
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I haven't word counted but I'm fairly sure this next almanac is my longest 👀

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I just have the icon left, I don't think there's more I need to do

past light
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hyped

arctic olive
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Meanwhile the ability text is on the shorter side

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Looks like only Subtractor is shorter

arctic olive
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currently deciding if i have time for a release rn

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i think i do

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Babbler

(Outsider): You have a Townsfolk ability. True things you are mad about might become false.

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“All roses are red, violet comes before blue. This line is false, and this line's not true.”

The Babbler speaks in lies in order to preserve the truth.

The Babbler has a Townsfolk ability. This Townsfolk might be in play or out of play. The Babbler does not learn which ability have, but they wake as if they were that character.

Things that the Babbler is mad about might become false. This could be absolutely anything, so long as the Babbler is trying to convince town it's true.

Madness, especially Babbler madness, is not the same thing as the words a player says. If the Babbler makes a statement with the intent to strongly imply that they think the statement is false, that means they are mad that the statement is false. It doesn't matter that they're technically saying the statement is true.

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Examples

The Babbler has the Subtractor ability, and learns that Coda is not the No Dashii, and talks about this in private. Tonight, Coda's character changes from the Kazali to the No Dashii. They then use their ability to learn that Barch, the Shrike, is not the No Dashii, and tell the group about this. Tonight, Barch and Coda switch characters.

The Babbler with the Innkeeper's ability says they'll protect the Savant tonight. Because they imply that the Savant will not die tonight, the Savant dies to the Babbler's ability tonight, right before the Babbler chooses them.

The Babbler has the Lycanthrope's ability, and has deduced this. They have also deduced that Chal is the Faux Paw, with reasonable certainty. They claim to be the Lycanthrope, but say that Chal could never possibly be the Faux Paw. The way they say this strongly implies that Chal is the Faux Paw, and most players understand this implication. The Faux Paw changes players during the day.

The Babbler figures out that they have the Cannibal ability, and exclaims this excitedly. Tonight, their Townsfolk ability changes from Cannibal to Huntsman. There is no Damsel in play.

DJ the Babbler publicly claims to be the Babbler. The group decides to disregard things he says while alive, because he's probably lying about his information anyway. The Storyteller turns him into the Doom Prophet, because the Doom Prophet is not the Babbler.

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How to Run

During setup, choose a Townsfolk ability for the Babbler to have. This Townsfolk may or may not be in play. If it has a setup effect, apply that setup effect (if it's an in-play Townsfolk, apply it twice, when applicable).

If the Babbler has an in-play ability, mark the corresponding Townsfolk with the ABILITY reminder. If the Babbler has a not-in-play ability, replace the Babbler token with that Townsfolk token and mark it with the IS THE BABBLER reminder.

The Babbler has this Townsfolk's ability (do not say which), and will wake at night when this Townsfolk would normally wake. If it is in play, wake them in any order.

If the Babbler is mad about something that is true, you may change the game state so that it is false. So long as it makes what they're mad about false without adding extraneous effects, this can be anything. Change character tokens, reminders, shrouds, or other components accordingly. Use the ? reminders as needed.

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Jinx

  • Village Idiot: If the Babbler has the Village Idiot ability and a Village Idiot is in play, the Babbler's Village Idiot ability might be drunk instead of a Village Idiot.
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    {
        "id": "babbler_the_academy",
        "image": [
            "https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/The_Academy\/babbler_the_academy.png",
            "https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/Academy_Alternate_Universe\/babler_academy_alternate_universe.png"
        ],
        "reminders": [
            "Ability"
        ],
        "remindersGlobal": [
            "Is the Babbler",
            "?",
            "??",
            "???"
        ],
        "name": "Babbler",
        "team": "outsider",
        "ability": "You have a Townsfolk ability. True things you are mad about might become false.",
        "flavor": "All roses are red, violet comes before blue. This line is false, and this line's not true.",
        "special": [
            {
                "type": "reveal",
                "name": "replace-character"
            }
        ],
        "jinxes": [
            {
                "id": "villageidiot",
                "reason": "If the Babbler has the Village Idiot ability and a Village Idiot is in play, the Babbler's Village Idiot ability might be drunk instead of a Village Idiot."
            }
        ]
    },```
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The Academy ∇ (Welcome To Mountport)

desert turtle
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whoa...

arctic whale
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Also if you come out as Babbler… you might no longer be the Babbler goblin

arctic olive
#

Exactly!!

desert turtle
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you become the Storyteller

arctic olive
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"hey I'm the Babbler let's execute me immediately" turns you into the boomdandy

woven oar
#

It's really fun

desert turtle
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this is somewhat Mutant adjacent

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but earnestly more fun

glossy salmon
#

Things that the Babbler is bad about might become false. This could be absolutely anything, so long as the Babbler is trying to convince town it's untrue.
this passage has at least one typo and also isn’t phrased very parseably i don’t think?

rotund raft
#

Whoah

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🔥

desert turtle
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untrue (false or paradoxical)

arctic olive
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Oh yep that's a typo

#

Ty

glossy salmon
#

this is like if occultist had a terrible child with jurgen leitner and its awesome

arctic olive
#

There was bound to be at least one in an almanac this big lol

rotund raft
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Mfw I'm babbler-general and I learn evil is winning

glossy salmon
#

you become the heretic

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good luck :]

desert turtle
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mfw when i‘m babbler-alchemist-godfather and learn i‘m the only outsider

arctic whale
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Me when I’m the Babbler Choirboy and learn the Demon

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“We have Merlin at home”

arctic olive
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I love that babbler is so many things at once

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Y'all aren't ready for boffin babbler 👀

desert turtle
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i would not consider babbler to be a balanced boffin ability

arctic olive
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It's not

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Unless you give it like babbler poppy grower maybe

#

Even then

#

Regardless of balance it's a little insane. And the madness can be traced back to the demon directly if you figure it out

desert turtle
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i admire this character because i‘ve tried to make both truth madness and wish madness as characters but always miss the mark

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combining them together is really funny

past light
#

wow i just realised that the workaround of “i am the babbler and i learnt [opposite of my true info]” doesn’t work because lol you’re the doom prophet now

arctic olive
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Yeah meanwhile "I am the [townsfolk whose ability you have] and I learned [opposite of my info]" avoids madness penalties usually but doesn't telegraph that you're the babbler and might get you into a hard double claim

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A doom prophet that town is convinced is still the babbler is the dream tbh

grim path
#

Such a fun way to do an evil emulator, you just have to say enough false statements that other players get the message

glossy salmon
#

deliberate hinting is a madness tell

grim path
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I don’t mean like deliberately wink wink or something obvious

arctic olive
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It's like how you can indirectly get town to correctly build you as the mutant yeah

#

Tricky tho

grim path
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I think it’s funny that good players might assume someone to be babbler and just go with the opposite of whatever they claim

past light
#

nah this seems fucking insane

#

genuinely massive

glossy salmon
arctic olive
#

I mean yeah that's how you do it

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Make babbler the only explanation

grim path
#

Mutant works by forcing town to make assumptions

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There isn’t much you can do, and often people will assume wrong. But you can try not to do too much damage and make it a little bit less confusing

shrewd sphinx
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Wait, it's peak all the way down

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Bc you'll be claiming false stuff, evil won't kill you. You need to dive atleast a little into the risk in some direction

serene egret
#

yeah this is so wild I have no idea how this compares to a mutant/occultist

arctic olive
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The idea is that the madness is much more punishing, but it has an entire Townsfolk ability

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So it's like [+1 Townsfolk, and a bomb]

#

Plus it can out freely while dead. That's an important aspect

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(good luck dying though)

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Notably, being an outsider makes it uniquely immune to a lot of misinfo. No dashii, vortox, barrkoad, xaan, etc can do nothing to a babbler's info (mechanically)

wild pelican
#

Yes! I love this character. Cool to see a full release.

arctic whale
arctic olive
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Wait a babbler with a widow ping is awesome

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If you out that you have a ping then the widow might change characters

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(technically this could turn you evil instead but uhh STs pls don't)

hazy goblet
arctic olive
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It's fixed on bloodstar lol

#

Ok fixed here now too

dawn olive
arctic olive
serene egret
#

holy shit welcome to mountport

#

can't wait for the musical sing-along botc character

arctic olive
#

As I prep this char I'm starting to see gaps in the design 😭

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Hopefully this is still the next release

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Prob with some changes tho

brisk glen
#

Lowkey that’s what I’m doing with mine too

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Emergency changing the ability and doing immediate playtesting

vapid blaze
#

We're finally getting the Baseball-Playing Girl

desert turtle
lilac thistle
desert turtle
#

ignore me on this one

arctic olive
dull scaffold
#

and then cat maid popped off

arctic olive
#

Ah fair enough

dull scaffold
shrewd sphinx
#

Do you recall why they didn't play into Trixter? It's a perfectly valid play, but depending on their reasoning it could potentially be a sign of something worth changing

dull scaffold
#

ill just fuggin forward u when it starts

#

#1213111657920995379 message it starts basically around here

shell bridge
dull scaffold
shrewd sphinx
#

if there's like, a whole swath of Trixter playtesting that I've missed feel free to lmk but in my limited experience with it it felt like there were just a few cornerrs on it that needed some polishing

fleet spindle
#

Ykw hell yeah I'm in for it

drowsy pelican
#

I don’t really see how it’s yagg/gossip

iron cloak
drowsy pelican
#

Bro everyone talks 😭

iron cloak
brisk glen
vapid cipher
brisk glen
#

AND THEN SHE MADE MY LIPS HURT

arctic olive
#

Ok I've reworked the character that was clued

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I might be retheming it

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Which would involve not this clue lol

#

It's not locked in yet tho

vapid blaze
#

wowzers

#

what a game changer

arctic olive
#

TRUE

arctic olive
#

The Academy ∇ (Christmas Cheer? Well I mean not really)

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-# I'm not gonna be able to get another holiday themed clue in I don't think so here it is

#

This is what that other character evolved into. Decently different tho

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I might reuse that theming for something else, we'll see 👀

fleet spindle
#

We cheer for the Holidays!

Yet it'll be our last day at this world of domination

arctic olive
#

Currently debating whether or not I should wait on this release or not to give myself time to spot anything I missed/make edits to the details

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I could just release it rn

ruby vapor
dry lava
#

You can always change it if you notice anything about it later

arctic olive
#

You know what fair enough

#

I'll release in a bit

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By a bit I mean prob an hour or so bc I just woke up

arctic olive
#

Alright releasing once my computer decides to turn on

wild pelican
#

Have you tried turning it off and on again?

arctic olive
pseudo aurora
#

ah theres your problem

arctic olive
#

(it's on now, I just need to get everything in order)

pseudo aurora
#

im so excited to see people react to this lol

#

hystrex's hit new character xaan with agency

arctic olive
#

Get hyped

#

Put your hands together

#

For the.....

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Cheerleader

(Townsfolk): For every 2 players you high-five, you may privately learn a true statement. If you high-five all evil players, evil wins at dusk.

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“Give me an I! Give me an N! Give me an F! Give me an O! What's that spell? Doom for us all!”

The Cheerleader gets crazy info when they hype up the town, but can't get too greedy.

Every time the Cheerleader gives a high five to 2 new players, they may visit the Storyteller to learn something true about the game. This can happen multiple times in a single day.

High-fiving a player a second time has no effect. The Cheerleader cannot high-five themself; that would be a clap, not a high five.

During nominations, since players must be in their seats, the Cheerleader may only high-five players within arm's reach. They may not get up for the purposes of high-fiving a player.

If the Cheerleader high-fives the last remaining evil player, evil wins at dusk, after the execution for the day. The Cheerleader does not learn that this will happen (unless it is part of their own info).

The Cheerleader can learn anything, so get creative!

It is up to the Cheerleader to talk with the Storyteller, not the other way around. This isn’t a public conversation, and the group can’t listen in. It’s private.

Examples

On day 1, the Cheerleader high-fives both of their neighbors. They visit the Storyteller and learn that a Outsider neighbors a Minion. They high-five 2 more players, then visit the Storyteller to learn that a Wielder is in play. The day ends, and night 2 begins.

The Cheerleader high-fives the Shrike and the Ojo immediately. There are no other evil players. The Mystic is executed, then evil wins.

BakedIce the Cheerleader high-fives half of the other players, but this happens to include the entire evil team. The demon is executed that day, and good wins.

The Cheerleader high-fives all players consecutively, and visits the Storyteller to receive all of their info in succession. They are executed later that day, and the game continues.


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How to Run

If the Cheerleader high-fives another player, tilt that player's token 45 degrees clockwise. For every 2 tokens that are tilted, the Cheerleader may request a private chat with you. Take them away from the circle so you cannot be overheard, and whisper a true statement. (If you have trouble remembering how many statements the Cheerleader is owed, then whenever the Cheerleader gets info, you can tilt 2 tokens that have already been tilted so that they are 45 degrees counter-clockwise instead.)

If you tilt an evil player's token and no other evil players' tokens are un-tilted, mark the Cheerleader with the STUNT FAILED reminder. At the end of today, after the execution, if this reminder is still active, declare that the evil team has won.

When running the Cheerleader online, instead of tilting players' tokens, mark them with a 👏 reminder.

If, for any reason, a pair of players cannot high-five each other, they may visit the Storyteller to say that they are high-fiving. If this would be during nominations, they may publicly declare this if they are neighbors. Additional reminder tokens have also been added for online play.

Jinx

  • Vizier: The Cheerleader must high-five the Vizier in order to receive their 2nd piece of info.
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    {
        "id": "cheerleader_the_academy",
        "image": [
            "https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/The_Academy\/cheerleader_the_academy.png",
            "https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/Academy_Alternate_Universe\/cheerleader_academy_alternate_universe.png"
        ],
        "reminders": [
            "Stunt Failed",
            "\ud83d\udc4f",
            "\ud83d\udc4f",
            "\ud83d\udc4f",
            "\ud83d\udc4f",
            "\ud83d\udc4f",
            "\ud83d\udc4f",
            "\ud83d\udc4f",
            "\ud83d\udc4f",
            "\ud83d\udc4f",
            "\ud83d\udc4f",
            "\ud83d\udc4f",
            "\ud83d\udc4f",
            "\ud83d\udc4f",
            "\ud83d\udc4f"
        ],
        "name": "Cheerleader ∇",
        "team": "townsfolk",
        "ability": "For each 2 players you high-five, you may privately learn a true statement. If you high-five all evil players, evil wins at dusk.",
        "flavor": "Give me an I! Give me an N! Give me an F! Give me an O! What's that spell? Doom for us all!",
        "jinxes": [
            {
                "id": "vizier",
                "reason": "The Cheerleader must high-five the Vizier in order to receive their 2nd piece of info."
            }
        ]
    },
pseudo aurora
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The platonic ideal of clocktower: love winning and then promptly losing

iron cloak
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Archer out here jumping between message announcements 😂 can keep their excitement contained

arctic olive
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theyve just got that cheerleader spirit i think

pseudo aurora
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I knew what the character was because i snuck into hystrex’s house (i have no fucking clue how i jumped in between announcement)

arctic olive
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i always gotta send a handful of messages to fit everything

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and to get the icon displaying in the spot i want it

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you just sent before i was finished

pseudo aurora
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Awesome

arctic olive
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looks less clean but it's really not a big deal

pseudo aurora
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There you go i deleted them to fix it

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Not like the messages were anything of substance

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Shoutouts to the vizier jinx btw

glossy salmon
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THIS RULES

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i don’t understand why you explicitly banned high fiving people during noms? that feels like a group specific thing

pseudo aurora
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This character’s initial conceit was “whats the funnest thing for people to be bluffing in legion”

arctic olive
glossy salmon
pseudo aurora
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Its to stop people from getting votes on the cheerleader and then the cheerleader does a high five world tour and gets a billion info

arctic olive
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meaning theres no real downside to high fiving anyone in general

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ya

glossy salmon
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i mean i think the solution to that is just to say that the evil wins at dusk trigger still goes off if the cheerleader is executed? or rewording it to be like mm?

arctic olive
arctic olive
glossy salmon
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ah so the execution thing is deliberate, gotcha

arctic olive
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inconsistent as in, if you execute the demon on that day then good needs to win. and if executing the CL is a loss then executing the demon is also a loss

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ya

glossy salmon
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ah

shrewd sphinx
glossy salmon
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running into character limit real fast with that one

shrewd sphinx
#

or "evil wins" rather

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yeah...

desert turtle
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where‘s the recommended rule

glossy salmon
arctic olive
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there are ways for good to win without executing the demon

desert turtle
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there should be one that says “players must publicly use hand sanitiser after the cheerleader high fives”

arctic olive
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cant ship that in the game box 😔

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though yes this is recommended

glossy salmon
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that doesn’t need to be codified as a rule it’s just how groups of people work

arctic olive
glossy salmon
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AH

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lmfao

arctic olive
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that bullet point serves a secret bonus purpose lol

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on top of the more obvious "you dont get half a statement for free"

desert turtle
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if you‘re mez-turned and you know it clap your hands

shrewd sphinx
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claps my jands

glossy salmon
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jands

desert turtle
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my phone is smol

arctic olive
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i do want the cheerleader to be able to exe themself if they mess up because otherwise it feels like good needs REALLY good cl info on that day in order to have a chance which is just too centralizing

glossy salmon
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yeah i like that

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this character is fucked up with legion lmao

arctic olive
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👀

desert turtle
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also i uh

#

want to point out that

vapid cipher
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big fan of the "\ud83d\udc4f" reminder

desert turtle
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“for each” is not grammatical and you‘re not very sly in saving a single character

arctic olive
desert turtle
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get grammar-copped nerd!!!!!

arctic olive
desert turtle
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“for every”

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for every two

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each specifically refers to individuals of a whole

arctic olive
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when coding it's ALWAYS for each but idk how much that lines up with actual english lol

desert turtle
#

two is not individual

arctic olive
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ahhh ok

#

i can change that

desert turtle
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so it‘s “for every” yeah

glossy salmon
glossy salmon
desert turtle
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Mind Goblin standoff (grammar vs coding)

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actually wtf am i talking about i literally coded a balatro mod

arctic olive
glossy salmon
#

GOTTEMMMMM

desert turtle
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yes i do mind actually

arctic olive
desert turtle
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so... is Venom the next Demon?

glossy salmon
#

smh minions aren’t mods

#

classic hystrex power trip

arctic olive
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yeah my bad i let the power get to my mind 😔 (goblin)

glossy salmon
#

world cup loser hystrex at it again

desert turtle
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i claim slayer and shoot hystrex

arctic olive
arctic olive
desert turtle
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ah fuck i‘m the lleech host

arctic olive
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i should decide what i release next

glossy salmon
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you know in your heart what must be done

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the people have been asking for it

arctic olive
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gurple licker

desert turtle
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how about a minion that doesn’t die

glossy salmon
arctic olive
#

The Academy ∇ (Music To My Ears)

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alternative clue: mods, kill this guy

glossy salmon
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babbler 2?!

arctic olive
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i mean kinda

steel fractal
#

I recognise the cheerleader icon!

arctic olive
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made in desmos!!

glossy salmon
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desmos like from math?

desert turtle
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i love desmos3d

rotund raft
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I didn't even know you could draw in it

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Very impressive

arctic olive
glossy salmon
#

fun

pseudo aurora
glossy salmon
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eats the day 1 execution and an evil’s dead 🤷

arctic olive
#

ok but if you choose the wrong one to execute first evil will just win

glossy salmon
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ohhhhhhhh i see

#

missed the “also” meaning “double claim”

ruby vapor
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Cheers @arctic olive 🍻

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Yk

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Like

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Cheers as in cheerleader

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😔

arctic olive
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cheers!!!

dawn olive
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is clapping your hands high fiving yourself

rancid trench
drowsy pelican
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Where’s a starboard when you need it lmao

brisk glen
woven oar
#

Me when I want to get almanac link and get hit by this peak CINEMA

vapid blaze
arctic olive
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Generally yes

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"you have high fived at least 3 Townsfolk" cinema

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Nah it (mostly) shouldn't be that useless but reward the cl for, living and for avoiding evils

vapid blaze
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So how would you deal with that in a 15 player game with 7 statements

arctic olive
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Give like 2 actually useful statements and then use the rest to narrow worlds that were already narrow, probably

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Depends on game state

arctic olive
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I've been locked in but instead of locking in on school I'm locking in on botc homebrew

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New release tonight probably

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Yes I know it's been a day, I release whenever I feel like it

ruby vapor
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You should definitely tell them the same

arctic olive
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awesome

rotund raft
arctic olive
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true

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watch me either release 5 characters over break or 0

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(or more idk how much is reasonable to release while on break)

arctic olive
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soon.

glossy salmon
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not soon enough

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now

arctic olive
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ok

glossy salmon
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yay!

arctic olive
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the character is the gurple licker 2 its ability is that you go lick a doorknob and then everyone loses

pseudo aurora
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yeah i made this one

arctic olive
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xaan with agency

pseudo aurora
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i made that one too

glossy salmon
arctic olive
#

Cadenza

(Minion): If you have been executed, the Storyteller might follow your public commands from now on.

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“Nemmeno Dio può resistere alla melodia della mia musica! Also, you're flat.”

The game becomes the Cadenza's improvised solo.

Once the Cadenza is executed, they can command the Storyteller to do anything. If the Storyteller agrees, they will do whatever the Cadenza told them.

Cadenza commands must be made in public. Private commands cannot be followed. A command is considered public if all players have the opportunity to hear it.

The Cadenza may make as many or as few commands as they wish. The Storyteller may follow as many or as few commands as they feel is fun for the players. The Cadenza may even make commands at night.

If the Cadenza is revived after being executed, they may still command the Storyteller. If the Cadenza was drunk or poisoned when they were executed, but is currently sober & healthy, they may still command the Storyteller.

Examples

Stick is the Cadenza who has been executed. Every day from then on, she publicly chooses a player and tells the Storyteller to poison them until dawn if they are a Townsfolk. The Storyteller poisons those players accordingly.

The Cadenza is executed on day 3. They command the Storyteller to make some true things that the Demon is mad about become false, from now on. The Barrkoad tells players that they think a Barrkoad is in play, and turns into the No Dashii tonight.

Bhamber, the Cadenza, is executed on day 1. For the majority of the game, he makes no commands, continuing to bluff as a good player. During nominations, when just 4 players live, he points to Foxx and says "mods, kill this man". Foxx dies.


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How to Run

If the Cadenza is executed, mark them with the SOLO reminder. While this reminder is on the Cadenza, if they publicly command you to do something, you may follow their command. Make any mechanical adjustments to the game to match what the Cadenza wants. Use the various ? reminders as needed.

If you wish, you may say "Music to my ears" or something similar to indicate that a command has been followed. However, this is not required.

Running the Cadenza can be tricky. Don't be afraid to take your time to consider whether or not to follow a command. If in doubt, you can always not follow a command, and the Cadenza can repeat the command later or make a weaker version of the command, if they want. However, keep in mind that Cadenza games are most fun then as many commands are followed as possible while maintaining some balance.

Jinxes

  • Plague Doctor: If the Plague Doctor is executed & Storyteller gains the Cadenza ability, a Minion gains it instead & learns this.
  • Wielder: If the Wielder gains the Cadenza ability, a Minion gains it instead & learns this. If they are executed on or before the Wielder's 1st day, they keep it for the rest of the game.
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    {
        "id": "cadenza_the_academy",
        "image": [
            "https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/The_Academy\/cadenza_the_academy.png",
            "https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/Academy_Alternate_Universe\/cadenza_academy_alternate_universe.png"
        ],
        "reminders": [
            "Solo",
            "?",
            "??",
            "???"
        ],
        "name": "Cadenza",
        "team": "minion",
        "ability": "If you have been executed, the Storyteller might follow your public commands from now on.",
        "flavor": "Nemmeno Dio pu\u00f2 resistere alla melodia della mia musica! Also, you're flat.",
        "jinxes": [
            {
                "id": "plaguedoctor",
                "reason": "If the Plague Doctor is executed & Storyteller gains the Cadenza ability, a Minion gains it instead & learns this."
            }
        ]
    },```
glossy salmon
#

omg its this one!

arctic olive
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it's this one!!

shrewd sphinx
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Goddamn that is cool

pseudo aurora
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this one is cool

arctic olive
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The Academy ∇ (idk, Bats Probably? The Theming Isn't Locked In For This One Yet)

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Release Links (pt 2)

Cadenza: #1399910044413460582 message
Mirorim: #1399910044413460582 message

glossy salmon
#

i cant believe hystrex is adding wealthy orphans

arctic olive
#

ran out of space on the other one

ruby vapor
arctic olive
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if the cadenza says "kill all the village idiots" then im most likely just letting them

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the cadenza is allowed to get away with a lot, including kills

ruby vapor
arctic olive
#

(also, you're flat)

ruby vapor
arctic olive
#

thanks to @rotund raft for that!!

lavish glenBOT
#

Gave +1 Thanks to @rotund raft (current: #1149 - 21)

ruby vapor
#

Too far hys🦖

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I'm a 3 dimensional being

glossy salmon
glossy salmon
#

FUCK

glossy salmon
arctic olive
#

mods, kill this fae

glossy salmon
ruby vapor
ruby vapor
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How far can Cadenza go

arctic olive
#

they can ask for anything

pseudo aurora
arctic olive
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"the game becomes their solo" can be taken somewhat literally if you want, as long as it's fun for everyone

ruby vapor
ruby vapor
glossy salmon
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mods can you kill this fucking guy

ruby vapor
#

Run

arctic olive
#

oh

arctic olive
#

pretty far, usually

serene egret
#

that third example is fire

glossy salmon
ruby vapor
#

🗣️

glossy salmon
#

apprentice spy !!

serene egret
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the next time I see a spam bot I'm @-ing the doomsayers and making my cadenza request

ruby vapor
#

👀

#

You see a 20 headed hydra

ruby vapor
#

Btw

#

Have you noticed

#

The top and the bottom of this emoji don't align

arctic olive
#

👁️

ruby vapor
#

👁️

serene egret
#

oh huh

ruby vapor
#

Oh also

#

There's a stray pixel in savant's icon

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Have fun

#

💖

serene egret
#

wait chat there are so many silly things you can do with this, like asking to see the grim or ask to let you open your eyes at night

ruby vapor
#

Mid game

serene egret
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"hey DM? I'd like to make an insight check on whether this player is lying to me"

glossy salmon
#

st? can i run votes now

ruby vapor
serene egret
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wait chat I have such a great idea after you get executed: since you're outed evil, you can pull deal-with-the-devil kinda contracts. Even if not strictly optimal, it's hilarious

glossy salmon
#

AWESOME

serene egret
#

Oh, what's this? You want to know whether X person is the demon? I'll tell you, but for a price...

shrewd sphinx
arctic olive
#

yeah i mean i would

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however this is an incredibly funny thing to say as not the cadenza

grim path
#

Mystic is super cool, but if the demon triggers it early what is stopping them from just not killing from now on. It becomes pretty obvious the player asking everyone to kill them actually is the demon

arctic olive
#

uhhhh

#

evil can bluff this

#

still you make a good point

#

might just say the ST chooses their kills instead then?

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Mystic (Townsfolk): Demons who nominate, execute, & kill their last living ally become good tonight. The Storyteller makes their choices for them, even if you're dead.

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?

#

149 chars 😔

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i'll figure it out, which may or may not mean leaving it as is

glossy salmon
#

boomdandy or similar?

arctic olive
#

a minion bluffing this late game

glossy salmon
#

evil could be awesome and based and coordinate that

arctic olive
#

yeah evil can coordinate this

glossy salmon
arctic olive
#

sure

glossy salmon
#

i don’t think it’s a problem at all if it happens late?

arctic olive
#

that's difficult by design but yes it can be bluffed regardless

glossy salmon
#

“whoopsie, well we have time for another”

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i think it’s fine as is

grim path
#

I get that, but by early I just mean literally any time you aren’t reducing the game to f3.

arctic whale
arctic olive
#

135, not bad

past light
#

“last alive ally turn good

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the shaveler

carmine oyster
#

i think you could have "even if you die" here

Demons who nominate, execute, & kill their last alive ally become good tonight. The Storyteller chooses for them, even if you die.

which brings it down to 130

arctic olive
#

Maybe yeah

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I think this is just a matter of playtesting it and seeing if it's actually a bad thing in practice

wild pelican
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Doesn't this wording include even if they haven't nominated yet though? I guess it's implied.

arctic olive
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It's supposed to be implied yeah

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"them" is "demons who nominate [...]", not just "demons"

arctic olive
#

The Academy ∇ (In The Beginning)

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Still staying with the other character just swapping the release order

fiery sierra
#

My fav here is unironically high roller

desert turtle
#

h.

arctic olive
#

TRUE

#

I'll release a character like soonish I think

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Matter of days

serene egret
arctic olive
#

Yeah it's a hint for escapod

arctic whale
#

Oh hey, I know what this is for

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It’s for ||the Big Barnacle||

arctic olive
#

Something big is coming

#

So you remember how I started out making showcase scripts for characters and then I stopped because it turns out that's hard to do consistently?

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Well I didn't start making them again, I have something better

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The first of these showcase scripts had Bean Spiller and Bistella, and it was kinda bad

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But what if I told you there was a script with both of those characters and it was good instead of bad?

steel burrow
arctic olive
#

Introducing...

Rendezvous by @vapid cipher !

steel burrow
lilac thistle
#

i was about to make that joke but for longtext

vapid cipher
# arctic olive

8pm. Under cover of the bean factory. It's the only chance we've got to coordinate. You in?

Rendezvous is a BMR-like centered around the Bean Spiller and Bistella. In a genre of script so heavily centered around evil coordination and good players lying, an evil team seeing the Grimoire can be devastating, and doubly so if it pierces a Poppy Grower's blinding effect. Good players might experience some whiplash as they first try and hide things from evil before coming out swinging if a Bean Spiller claim dies at night — but if they can adapt and figure out the evil players amidst everything, they've got the upper hand. Meanwhile, evil players might feel lost at first, but once they start coordinating, they can plan some truly wicked stuff to make full use of their abilities.

bootlegger If the PG dies droisoned or the ability goes out of play, evil learns each other.
-# (You can probably run without this bootleg and it'll go fine, but for safety, you know?)

Ruling notes:

  • In a Poppy Grower game, wake the Bistellae separately for Demon info.
  • If evil knows each other in a Bistella game, consider letting evil know the order in which you'll wake the Bistellae to help them coordinate better. It can feel bad to have a play ruined by ST fiat.
  • Bistella / Mastermind: If the Mastermind ability procs in a Bistella game, the game will end the next day via the MM ability.
brisk glen
#

Fighting hard to not say “wow another axolator Ojo godfather script”

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Are Bean Spiller and Poppy Grower jinxed or is that deliberate

arctic olive
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Deliberate

fiery sierra
#

i mean courtier drunking pg is nice

#

maybe we keep that available

arctic whale
vapid cipher
arctic olive
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And there's more where it came from 👀👀👀

desert turtle
#

BMR LIKE!!!! YEAHHHHH

arctic olive
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Update: I started a third major homebrew project so academy stuff is gonna be slower for a while

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I haven't forgotten about it tho!! There will still be characters and scripts

arctic olive
#

Tomb

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Anyone in The Kitchen can see the dozens of character drafts I've sent there lol

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Shameless plug time, I'll be putting most of my thoughts for this project in The Kitchen, and i tend to put academy stuff there first too in one form or another

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Ok I meant to make that not embed but like whatever

dawn olive
#

fork found in kitchen

lilac thistle
#

what is the intended interaction for a PD-Shrike? my assumption for the intended interaction is that if a Plague Doctor is executed and the ST would gain the Shrike ability, then Good has to avoid executing a Good player to avoid a PD-Shrike loss, but I don't think that's necessarily how it would work given the current wording?
atm, I think the wording for a PD-Shrike would work one of two ways:

  1. The "you" in the PD-Shrike ability refers to the PD, which then means that if the Good team executes an evil player, Good wins: this doesn't necessarily feel correct though as it might kinda fall into the camp of "an Outsider ability harming the Evil team"
  2. The "you" refers to the Storyteller, as they now have the Shrike ability from the PD: this then means that the PD-Shrike ability does nothing though since the ST isn't on a team