#The Academy ∇
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It is worded as townsfolk (players) not townsfolk (abilities)
I'm planning to rework the jinx anyway, I can just say they get a real grim
Or honestly that they can't misregister
It's easier that way and spy can still mess with truthiness far too much
Prob gonna update sollos's wording (no mechanical changes)
The Demon & a good player (you know who) might register as the other's character & know this. If the good player is executed, evil wins.
A little clearer, at the cost of 1 character of length
I was curious about multi-Demon characters and found these. They are great but how is good supposed to fight a Majorix?
They have just 3 days to execute 2 evil players, right?
Even if the Majorices vounts don’t count, good may not notice until it’s too late.
Majorix doesn’t kill
So that’s the indicator to execute 1 person each day
If D2 ends with no-one winning while 2 executions have occurred, you know 1 of the executees is evil and the other good
On d1 good won’t know yet that Majorices are in play. And the odds of executing an evil player in the first 2 days depend a lot on the info town gets
And that’s even before thinking about the voting ability, which may make town think someone is going to be executed only for it not happening and so no executing someone that day
I mean, based on the Almanac, if 6 votes are needed and 5 good + Majorix vote then ST says the nominee is about to die but that’s false because the count is actually 5
Nominations end and ST would say that the nominee doesn’t die and day ends
No different from Butler/Legion voting
Also executees can be due to Virgin and Cere
Spy procs Virgin, but shouldn’t misreg to Majorix
Still, good’s strategy to be safe should be to execute with +2 votes more than necessary to be sure
Isn't the princess jinx useless (except with exorcist)
The princess execution doesn’t count to the majorix
So you can execute 1 player without it ticking down on your end but it also eats into the time
I'll admit, Majorix hasn't actually been tested yet, but there's a couple things in place to make the character work on paper
- Majorix adds an extra evil player. This means there are more valid targets for the good team to hit successfully
- Evil has reduced voting power, making it pretty much impossible for them to force an execution. Good controls executions, evil can only get close by specifically convincing good to vote
- Town can read the script, they know that executing evil is the top priority. It's not meant to be a beginner character, I'm not worried about players not reading the script
- Getting a vote fail on day 1 specifically isn't all that bad. It means you've found a demon, at least to some extent. The info gained from that is quite strong (and evil will try their best to avoid it), and it's less punishing than executing a good player anyway
Uhhh it might be lol, maybe I just make them register as evil to the Majorix then?
(vote fails after d1 are definitely bad and good should try to avoid that as you've said)
that probably works
but also means it's kinda optimal for the princess to self nom
"unless it's the princess"
Thanks for answering! As with every character, testing will give the answers
Gave +1 Thanks to @arctic olive (current: #177 - 301)
I think the Majorix could work perfectly even removing the voting part of the ability completely
It’s still 3 days for the game to end
And if kept, I think the no-vote should be revealed at the end of the tally. Like the ST counting 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and then saying “the total is 5”. So people would know a Majorix voted
Good still would need to execute 2 evils and they only get 3 chances at the most
This turns the extra evil into a massive upside, rather than a partial downside
I might consider this, but that feels like it's giving the good team too much info
Especially because I want Majorix to work with other demons (as well as as a solo demon) and this makes it much louder
i kinda wanna see a majorix-riot script
That would be cool yeah
In my head there's a Majorix/Escapod/Ketos/Absolut(?) script but I haven't fleshed it out at all
I feel like this is very strong for evil, good having to play around all of these silent demons makes all of them a lot more powerful
I think it takes away from the experience of each demon but maybe it's fine
Escapod and Ketos is impossible to distinguish
what are ketos and absolut
ketos is the upside down ship i remember that i just dont remember what it does
Ketos is "After Day 5, evil wins. Each night*, guess which Townsfolk a player is: if right, the end comes 1 day sooner. [-1 Outsider]"
Absolut is "Townsfolk abilities yield false info except 1. Evil may (once, before nominations) publicly guess who: if right, or after day 5, evil wins"
Absolut
Townsfolk abilities yield false info except 1. Evil may (once, before nominations) publicly guess who: if right, or after day 5, evil wins.
i think i’m with moll on this one, 2 silent timers is probably the sweet spot
No but
Ketos and Escapod look mechanically similar
To others from the outside
So it’s hard to tell who’s who
my sweet spot is 1 but the more important part is reducing how many things has to play around
Majorix and riot are pretty similar so playing around both is pretty reasonable but playing around Majorix and ketos is very different since one encourages outing all info and one to keep quiet and that means good can just randomly fuck up by guessing the demon is of one type
I mean so does absolut
Well uhhhh
At least you know the info is false
(If and only if those info roles don’t get themselves executed)
not if you don't figure out that the demon is the absolut
60% of the time, its a vortox/false-info-demon game every time 
To be clear the major differences between them is the point
I'm gonna draw an icon for once in my life
You might see a release within the next 45 minutes, or possibly not, idk yet
jk my aunt called right after I said that and I no longer have the time
i had the time
(afterward)
Subtractor
(Townsfolk): Each night, choose a character: learn 3 players they aren't.
“The missile knows where it is at all times because it knows where it isn't.”
The Subtractor knows what people aren't.
Each night, the Subtractor can choose any character on the script. They then learn any 3 players, none of which are that character.
If the Subtractor chooses the same character a second time, they might get a new set of 3 players, but don't have to.
Examples
Autumn is the Subtractor that chooses Boomdandy. There is no Boomdandy in play, so she learns any 3 players. The next night, she chooses No Dashii. Amy is the No Dashii, so Autumn learns 3 players that aren't Amy.
How to Run
Each night, wake the Subtractor. They point to a character on their character sheet. Then, point to any 3 players that aren't that character.
{
"id": "subtractor_the_academy",
"image": [
"https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/The_Academy\/subtractor_the_academy.png",
"https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/Academy_Alternate_Universe\/subtractor_academy_alternate_universe.png"
],
"firstNightReminder": "The Subtractor chooses a character. Point to 3 players that are not that character.",
"otherNightReminder": "The Subtractor chooses a character. Point to 3 players that are not that character.",
"name": "Subtractor",
"team": "townsfolk",
"ability": "Each night, choose a character: learn 3 players they aren't.",
"flavor": "The missile knows where it is at all times because it knows where it isn't. ",
"firstNight": 56.6282,
"otherNight": 76.6282
},```
a simple character for you today
The Academy ∇ (We Aren't Legion)
really weird at like 5p and 6p but it's a good concept
not really designed for teensies yeah
me on my way to run this in a threensy
learn yourself, someone else, the st
real
i’m choosing vortox
yeah thats just not a great interaction lol
i still cant tell if subtractor barrkoad is a bad interaction or not
oh to be clear if theres no valid info you learn a "no"
which in a real game might happen with legion but thats it
also not a good interaction
Y'know I like it when people make characters that aren't super crazy
like this is an interesting townsfolk that works well with other info sources to potentially get a knight ping and more
ya i aim to make script glue about as much as i make the flashy stuff
which results in massive vibe clashes if you scroll through the academy almanac, but i dont mind that
And same with minions and even bait roles (generally convenient bluffs to back into) or the drunk or something
Naturally you'd recommend this with quiet minions+demons?
loving that mystic and subtractor are right next to each other, and so are majorix and wielder
script defining flashy character without official precedent followed immediately by what could reasonably just be filler is just funny to me
I think I know this character
Woah same that's so crazy
no way legion but townsfolk (worker real)
When do we have Legion (Outsider)
I'll give you a hint that it's none of these 👀
Can't wait for legion but fabled
Waffles why would you say that I need to make it now
not if I take it first
traveler legion where like 7/12 players all suddenly travel away out of nowhere
Do that, I don't wanna do it lol
Legion Fabled?
Okay I have some ideas
I have one that immediately came to mind but thinking a little further it’s very much a Demon
We don’t have Legion Outsider yet
Legioutsider (Outsider): If the Demon publicly guesses who you are (once), your team loses. [Most Townsfolk are Legioutsider]
Actually wait that's not the worst thing in the world
Worker but if evil figures it out you just lose on the spot
Does it have to guess all of them?
No
Demon gets on block & just guesses
it's very unlikely that they're wrong, altho it is possible
I could add a "before nominations" but also that might just be bad
I'll throw this in the almanac below the line and see what happens to it
Love the character, did it really have to be called the subtractor 😭
You could've called it the missile and it would've been cool with the flavor (which is also cool)
I could rename it tbh
Idk how much "missile" really connects intuitively but meh
I'll keep the icon tho it works for both
i don’t like the name missile
is this a missile or a torpedo?
Missile and also subtraction sign (more missile tho)
what’s wrong with the name subtractor?
diabolical reactions
how is missile even remotely better
i see where you’re coming from but missile is even worse for that exact problem imo
Gonna make a snake minion called the adder
And then the goofiest demon of all time, the equalizer
that is Not a townsfolk name
oh you’re one to talk
you aren't thinking big enough
ad hominem
of course these math names would multiply
you're all nerds taking this power over your heads
When divisor and multiplicator :real:
I’m a physics major of course they would
The collection is LITERALLY called the Academy and its icon is LITERALLY a math symbol
We can get nerdy sometimes
You should get more nerdy
I'm still waiting for myself to make a character that makes sense to flavor as "student" or "pupil" or something
Also "troika" bc Majorix was almost named that and I think it's just cool but Majorix is 2 and troika is 3
I won't force it tho ofc
(there was a time where Majorix was 3 and it would've been awesome)
i think there was a time where most people were 3
There was a time…
OH ALSO I wanna make a character with a phonograph as an icon
That just sounds fun
Of course none of these are actual mechanical ideas so they might just not happen
what the actual fuck
what
I think this school is evil.. Idk i just think that having a supernova and NOT a 6 fingered zombie as deskmates seems malicious
Idk maybe a NOT 6 fingered demon is actually chill
Wdym dude we aren’t legion
Yeah obviously there's no 6th finger
Actually there's but it's followed by the 7th
So we're good
🖕
Couldn't find a single finger emoji
Watch this be a
X
(No idea man)
Each night, you might be poisoned. Whoever wins, loses & whoever loses, wins. [Most players are X]
This is how we embrace the botc spirit and gamble it all
Put it all on demon exe
And win it big
A server I'm in has the first frame of this gif as a sticker and it is the funniest shit ever
noooooo you can't just leak it like that!!!!!!!!
its a demon, and the setup text is actually [All players are X]
Make it so only 1 player registers as "the demon", evils don't know eachother
Horde
(Traveler): People may travel in as Hordes on your team. Other Hordes die with you & get no vote token. You don't count for exile vote majority.
“A billion is a lot.”
The Horde is many players that act as one.
If a Horde is in play, other non-players are allowed and encouraged to travel in as additional Hordes. They will always be the same alignment as the original Horde.
If one Horde dies for any reason, all do. The first Horde to die keeps their vote token, but the rest lose it because they were killed by the Horde ability.
Hordes don't count towards the vote threshold required to exile a Traveler (even non-Hordes). They count as players for all other purposes.
There is no limit to how many Hordes can be in play at once.
If a player has called for the exile of a Horde today and the Storyteller believes there hasn't been a meaningful change to justify the time spent on another exile, they may deny the exile of a Horde. If no Horde's exile has been called for today, they cannot do this.
Examples
Alice, Bob, Charlie, Dave, and Eve travel in together as Hordes. The Storyteller decides that they will be evil, and they all learn this & learn that Zack is the Demon. Later, Zack kills Dave at night. In the morning, all of the Hordes are dead, and Dave has a vote token while Alice, Bob, Charlie, and Eve do not.
There are 50 Hordes in play, and 10 other players. All of them are alive. 30 votes are required to execute a player. 5 votes are required to exile a player. A Horde player is exiled. They die & keep their vote token, and the other 49 Hordes die and lose their vote token.
How to Run
If Horde is in play and someone would like to travel into the game, consider making them the Horde, especially if there are only 1 or 2 Hordes. They must be the same alignment as the other Horde(s).
If a player calls for the exile of a Traveler, do not include living Hordes in the vote threshold for exile. Count all other Travelers, and count all votes as normal.
If a Horde dies, all other Hordes die as well. When announcing their death, also announce that all other Horde players have no vote token. Indicate which Horde still has theirs.
If you run out of Horde tokens, more Hordes can still travel in. They just won't get new tokens; their alignment still matches the existing Horde.
{
"id": "horde_the_academy",
"image": [
"https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/The_Academy\/horde_the_academy.png",
"https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/Academy_Alternate_Universe\/hordegood_academy_alternate_universe.png",
"https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/Academy_Alternate_Universe\/hordeevil_academy_alternate_universe.png"
],
"otherNightReminder": "If a Horde died tonight, all other Hordes do as well. They lose their vote tokens.",
"name": "Horde",
"team": "traveller",
"ability": "People may travel in as Hordes on your team. Other Hordes die with you & get no vote token. You don't count for exile vote majority.",
"flavor": "A billion is a lot.",
"otherNight": 71.628
},```
The Academy ∇ (Let's Go Gambling!)
Peak
is this the billion lions to the rest of clocktower's one of every pokemon
yeah basically
the only difference is that in this case the billion lions would lose if town was united against them
oh also i updated the sollos wording like i said i would
THIS ICON WAS HORDE???
Yeah lol
the rendering-
ahem
The rendering on that icon is so cool
like, it's so subtle, but I know it took a bit to get the red & blue to overlap like that and it looks really cool
Ty lol
NEW ICON
wait was there an icon before
I just have the red & blue on different layers and erase the parts they shouldn't show up
maybe i’m hallucinating
There wasn't lol
the icon should be an actual real photo of you with a speech bubble saying “there’s a D”
I have one let me go edit it lol
Photo of me??
lmao??
Hystrdoxx if you will
i have some really good ones
Sure just don't post it outside like my DMs
I won’t lol dw
I'm curious as to what you thought it was if anything
i was just expecting a new character
Oh lol
squ4ll died in the night
Wait
Can i theoretically host a horde game in botc con
And get every bystander to become one
So we have 100 players stacked on top of eachother like in that one cartoon about 3 bears
Why do they have to be stacked like the we bare bears bears? 😭
I'm not gonna get 100 chairs bro
Let them suffer
Yes
100 player horde is the dream I think
(a healthy horde size caps out around 10 I think, but I was intentional in making a design that could expand forever)
If you made tokens for them, how many would you make?
Probably 3? Extra tokens are actually not super necessary
Maybe 4 or 5 actually so I don't communicate that 3 is like a maximum or something
I'd probably guess that it should cap before then cause with too many they won't have things to talk about since there are so many of them and so few other players.
Any thoughts on such a matter? (Mostly interested if testing has shown something like it)
I haven't been able to playtest with more than 3
And a Horde of 10 is very different in a 7+10 player game than a 15+10 player game
10 might be too much though, it's totally possible
No it isn't
I think that 101 would be too much
100 is fine tho
Just find enough carpets to sit them onto
Or make a single person be the messenger of the horde with the live video call with all 100 members
Taped on them
force them to speak in sync
Have them do 1 word each
100 player horde
All are evil
It is a legion game
Fully balanced
So true
i think we did this for something in the one and only horde playtest? i can’t actually remember
I don't remember it was a while ago
One thing I did learn from that playtest though: horde is not immune to the advice that travelers shouldn't join late into the game. Someone joined as the third horde pretty late and just didn't know what was happening
tbf neither did the other two
holy fuck plural coded traveller that somewhat works
I've been trying to make one for so fucking long
time to [+20 Players] into a botc game-
no but in all seriousness though, this has immediately become my favorite traveller just because of accessibility reasons for us in particular
was that part of why aurora is a Travelle that doesnt know their team? or is that a reference I dont get?
i cant remember if there was a public origin story
I'm gonna go ahead and pretend I was thinking of this when making the character ::3
But yeah that's actually super awesome I'm glad :D
my concern is that a good portion of horde’s thing is being able to physically split up and talk to different people at the same time before coming together to coordinate and that’s a little difficult with one body
Sure but also I see no need to stop a system from using it like that
(the name Aurora comes from a joke npc in my D&D campagin)
don't ask
*asks*
the said npc is canonically a world-hopper who universally appears as a continuity character across all my d&d and daggerheart campaigns (therefore implying that they are all part of the same multiverse, three shouts to future campaign setups)
think the personality & 4th wall awareness of deadpool with a (un)healthy dose of beetlejuice, except that this gremlin happens to carry around Haru, the Tome of Creation (Artifact) and a infini-storage™-magical-crystal-who-knows-the-fuck-how-many-copies-of-world-breaking-artifacts-she-has-in-there
her favorite bullshit is to drive the PCs insane with a blend of in-and-out-of-game commentary that creatively exploits the most unfunny thing in the in-game situation and comparing to the most out-of-pocket meme that I could improvise on the spot
to demonstrate:
she's done this on seven different occasions
(technially me bc I'm playing her but it's funny af)
all in seperate discord servers
I'd send more antics but I don't think flooding this channel's a good idea XD
Unifier will remain a fabled but I do plan to be releasing lorics 👀
I don't think I'll start releasing any until nrb s3 is over though so I don't double up on official characters
you should still start developing now so you can brag about being exactly as smart as tpi if there’s overlap
Nah TPI is gonna release Sollos just you wait
@arctic olive horde json where.......
i need it for game soon and i cant find it ! !!!
Here you go
It's also in the Google drive inside Masterlist.json, assuming I remembered to update it
i saw that but for some reason my mind processed it as a sorceror
not the horde
hnhgnh
Oh lol
amnyways thank u
Gave +1 Thanks to @arctic olive (current: #179 - 303)
Ooooh nice
wait if u do text multiday can i rope you in as the 15th regular player?
its super scuffed but heres what it is:
Why are there sixteen billion minions
10 minion funnies
CAUSE ITS THE MASH!
IT WAS A MONSTER MASH!
Thx for the offer but I'm busy with school and other things 😔
WHERE IS MY BOY PUMPKIN
hauh
wuh
theres trickster
and horseman
thats good enough
wuh tyhe huh
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Intro...
ah
well i didnt plan for this
script doesnt have exe survival
atleast i got THE HEADLESS HORSELESS HORSEMAN!
so thats spooky dooky enough
just slap a DA on, lawyers are scary
sighs... pink candies your house...
nOOO
@arctic olive idk if u tested horde before but its being run for realsies
idk the horde token has wayy more eyes than that
ahhh now I understand what you're saying
I’m also testing a Trav for this
hi :3
how did it work out for y’all?
The game is still in progress
yeah it's multi-day
you frying chicken in there or what?
Oh my God
😭
I was lurking and I dropped my phone
I've been stalking different homebrew collections for inspiration loll
LOL
You should try the merging exercise: take two random characters (Constellation has a randomiser) and then make a character based on both
(Bonus points if you change the character type too)
That sounds fun! I've made a couple homebrew characters before, mostly just in my head lol- even tried making icons for a few but I've never like documented them or anything, but with another server homebrew character comp on the horizon I was thinking of actually submitting and entry this time lol
I also just love reading more homebrew characters, I haven't really got that into homebrew so it's always fun seeing what ideas other people have came up with and if they're similar to my own
Yeah that’s true actually lmao
I'm not familiar with constellations 😭 could you possibly point me to it?
https://discord.com/channels/569683781800296501/1287821246645538917 Here's where it is
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sAc6CxGthj2rIwJQnTPsWOwJNQK_dFYCkEZk421pvJQ/edit?usp=sharing
(It’s a compilation of collections)
yet again theres about a 50/50 shot i release a character today
just need an icon rn
which is faster me finishing this icon or me getting too hungy
Resist the hunger
We are hungrier for a a new character
Unless your blood sugar is low
The hunger will win
currently the adhd is winning i just messed around with this site a bunch https://polyhedra.tessera.li/tetrahedron/operations
An interactive polyhedra viewer and manipulator
it's quite cool, if a little glitchy
Highroller
(Fabled): Each night*, if at least 2 good players live, each evil player may choose to die.
“Aww dangit!”
The Highroller lets the evil team choose to die.
Examples
Diego is the Shrike who is bluffing Gambler. He chooses to die at night via the Highroller's ability.
Siddh is the Pukka, and Kohava is the Evil Twin. Siddh decides to die at night in order to gain enough social trust to convince town to execute the good twin. Because the Evil Twin's ability is active, the game continues even with a dead Demon.
How to Run
Each night except the first, if at least 2 good players live, wake each living evil player individually and show them the Highroller token. If they nod their head yes, they die--add a shroud to their token. Put them to sleep, and repeat this for all living evil players.
Depending on the script & which characters are in play, you may choose not to wake the Demon. In many cases, saying yes would lose the game immediately, so you can skip that step entirely.
{
"id": "highroller_the_academy",
"image": "https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/The_Academy\/highroller_the_academy.png",
"otherNightReminder": "Wake each living evil player separately. If they nod, they die, unless only 3 players live. Put them to sleep.",
"reminders": [
"Dead",
"Dead",
"Dead"
],
"name": "Highroller ∇",
"team": "fabled",
"ability": "Each night*, if at least 2 good players live, each evil player may choose to die.",
"flavor": "Aww dangit!",
"otherNight": 71.0628
},```
ty lol it's the zelda font
Great icon and fun character
What's the issue that this fixes?
It makes more characters bluffable
So like if you want a gambler for example
But you also want loud minions
Great, the Highroller can fix that
It's like a death mod sentinel
it gives evil a way to bluff characters that die in the night without putting assassin on the script
why not let evil wake up together (outside of pg/extra evil type situations where it’s relevant)
I mean they can coordinate during the day
I'd rather it interact better with more things than be marginally easier to run
It's like not that deep tho and if you wanna run it where they wake together go ahead
(given that this is already evil sided I don't think it needs to be more evil sided)
i see no problem with “you may wake evil players together or individually”
I'd rather not put it as a recommended thing bc coordination isn't part of the character
fair enough
Yeah I like this a lot, you can tell a custom script writer made it lol
we have fibbin for misinfo, sentinel for omod, now high roller for evil nightkills
Whaaaaaat nooooooo
The Academy ∇
More is coming I just haven't solidified the flavor for the next one so idk what the clue will be
DEATH MOD SENTINEL!
The Academy ∇ (Quickly Running Out)
Idk I couldn't think of a better clue even with the flavor in place
My dad getting milk
no way the thread name is clearly a reference to a timer demon that ends the game on day zero
TRUE
I’ve been there thinking about legion outsider
-# If the Demon publicly guesses who you are (once), your team loses. [Most Townsfolk are Legioutsider]
Could it work if the evil team instead had to guess a good player that isn’t legion outsider?
Causes misinformation by causing legion outsiders to claim townsfolk and vice versa.
Oooh maybe
The character is deeply flawed in its current state, that might be a way to fix it
I love the art on your Pumpkin token. It's much better than my last attempt at a Clocktower pumpkin.
oh that's official art lol
it doesn't belong to biscuits
see the video lol
yeah i can barely draw a stick figure
Ah, I see.
Time Eater
(Minion): If you are executed, a good player learns this & your team wins each dusk unless a living evil player is executed. [-1 Outsider]
“Time is money. Money is power. Power is pizza. And pizza is delicious.”
The Time Eater blends in with the Outsiders until it's too late.
If a Time Eater is in play at setup, one Outsider is removed from the bag and replaced with a Townsfolk. If there were already no Outsiders, nothing else is removed.
If the Time Eater is executed, a good player will learn that this happened tonight. They don't directly learn who it is.
Once this has happened, the Time Eater's team wins at dusk if a good player is executed, if a dead player is executed, or if no player is executed. If a living evil player is executed, nothing happens, but the effect remains active.
If an execution would cause good to win, it does so before the Time Eater's ability causes evil to win. For example, if a good Demon dies by execution (and no other Demons live), good wins, even with an active Time Eater.
Examples
Aba the Time Eater claims Doom Prophet and gets executed on day 2. On night 3, Nerdguy the Subtractor learns that a Time Eater was executed. He is promptly executed the following day, and evil wins.
The Time Eater is executed, and a good player learn this. The next day, a Minion is executed, followed by an evil Townsfolk, followed by the Demon. Good wins.
How to Run
While setting up the game, before putting the character tokens in the bag, remove one Outsider character token and add one Townsfolk character token. (If there are no Outsider tokens to remove, do not add a Townsfolk token.)
If the Time Eater is executed, place the LEARNS TONIGHT reminder on any good player. Tonight, wake them, show them the THIS CHARACTER SELECTED YOU info card, then the Time Eater token. Put them to sleep.
Afterward, if a good player is executed, or if no player was executed today, declare that the Time Eater's team has won.
Jinxes: #1399910044413460582 message
{
"id": "timeeater_the_academy",
"image": [
"https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/The_Academy\/timeeater_the_academy.png",
"https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/Academy_Alternate_Universe\/timeeater_academy_alternate_universe.png"
],
"otherNightReminder": "If the Time Eater was executed today, wake a good player and show them that the Time Eater is in play.",
"reminders": [
"Learns tonight"
],
"name": "Time Eater ∇",
"team": "minion",
"ability": "If you are executed, a good player learns this & your team wins each dusk unless a living evil player is executed. [-1 Outsider]",
"flavor": "Time is money. Money is power. Power is pizza. And pizza is delicious.",
"otherNight": 9.628
},```
so swag
The Academy ∇ (Quit Your Yapping)
Omg my character is being released! Real
Your team wins Each Dusk is awesome
I don’t give a swag
Holy shit characters designed for disincentivizing outsider executions are so based
The fun thing about this one is it invites the script writer to include the most absolutely devastating outsiders to keep alive
Yeah it’s perfect for home brewers
Great with doom prophet 👀
Full academy script when
I've made 3 townsfolk
Already enough for a threensy
Yeah because Subtractor works in threensies
And so does surveyor
Actually all of these townsfolk are comically bad to put in a threensy
surveyor is awesome lmao
yippee boomdandy sidegrade!!!
Surely this is the only one right guys
how can there be only one right guys when you marked guys as plural
surely
Guys I forgot to think about jinxes for time eater
The only one I can think of off the top of my head is mystic and maybe pithag because good demons cause problems
But maybe I just put in the almanac "if the execution of a good demon would cause good to win normally, they win despite the time Eater's ability"
That was a very quick 4 🔥 reacts
would Lil M cause that problem?
probably ot?
I dont think giving it to a good player works that way
Uhhh yes that would interact like that
I think I just make this an almanac thing rather than jinxing it with everything
The thing about wielder is now I'm remembering that I actually thought out a jinx and just forgot to write it down
Lleech?
It's the boomdandy jinx but it lasts forever if it procs
Its prob fine?
wait...
is it? Because the game ends before dusk
So Time Eater wincon doesnt proc
Almanac "if an execution causes good to win, it does so before the time eater's win condition activates"
yeah. clarifying how RAW works anyways
That prob fixes everything but Wielder
Which should be jinxed anyway
And that jinx is going on the wielder instead of the time eater for consistency
Viz isnt a jinx. Its ust something that would be funny if Vizier werent louder than a foghornstapled to the trunk of ten elephants
Alsahir jinx it is
I could see a vizier jinx like "if the vizier is executed, they register as dead to the time eater" which is janky but
oh i was just thinking of the funniness of killing a random goodplayer on a time eater day
Or TPI could give vizier the ability text it deserves "if you are executed, your team wins"
not the "double tap Viz forever"
Oh yeah that's a skill issue on good's end
Shouldn't have executed the time eater
You could also double tap a Psychopath forver, but that doesnt need to be jinxed cause like... go ahead, evil still gets 2KPN
and also voing on a good player for the Viz to slam
Yeah
The psycho actively trying to die would be really funny
Wait they can self kill
and also like, the only reason they would is if good needs the info or is waiting for he demon to kill candidates
because otherwise the psycho can just keep swinging
also, here;s a weird thought experiment
A Time Eater holding Lil M gets executed. Mastermid is in play
Ok I'm prob just gonna update the almanac and put a jinx on Wielder
Can good win?
(i know thats not jinx but is good softlocked?)
wait no they kill the MM
that satisfies both
Yeah
Exe any living evil player
Thats a jinx
Oh ur right
Minion gets the ability :)
MHD ass moment where you sneakily get yourself executed because town are cowards reasonable and productive members of society
This is like fine but I could instead be based and say that it activates immediately just like the old boomdandy jinx
🔥
Oh the Time eater day starting immediately
Though that kinda goes against supporting TE... but so does scripting it with PD at all so I think I do it
Also funny sotflock
What happens if the Time Eater themselves are the final evil?
Like good Demon and all
Good Minions
- Travel in evil Voudon Day 1
- Execute the Time Eater
3 You & the dead Time Eater dont vote - Profit
this assumes you could find the Time Eater of course
Killing the good demon wins
Step 1.5 is the Spy finds the evil Voudon and tells them what to do :)
Not the minions tho
Oh
Wait guys the storyteller can be executed which means PD TE work RAW
This is a flawless interaction with no flaws
All the time it would usually take got eaten
With the setup text, yes
Without, I mean it sure is strong
"Mastermid"
thats what im sayinnn
Evil wins because you executed the storyteller
If the ST is executed their time eater ability goes off and they can win. Obviously
(yeah it was a joke)
Time Eater Jinxes
Alchemist: If the Alchemist has the Time Eater's ability, an Outsider is not removed.
Plague Doctor: If the Plague Doctor is executed & Storyteller gains the Time Eater ability, it activates immediately as if a Time Eater had been executed.
Wielder: If the Wielder gains the Time Eater ability, a Minion gains it instead & learns this. If they are executed, they do not lose the ability.
wait why do you need the alch jinx? just because it limits bluffspace for evil in a way you don't want?
It's -1 outsider on a townsfolk
It's just not good design
I think the bag with 7 other characters plus a doom prophet and the bag with those same 7 characters plus an alch time eater will be at very different balance points
But RAW nothing else needs to be different about them to be a legal bag
oh wait yeah it's like a free space to remove an outsider true
It's a cool alch ability tho, confirming you in like f5 could be huge
For sale: outsider legion shoes, never worn.
Yeah lol
I don't think that character really has a way to make it work
I also cut the other minion because pixlate had the idea independently and then he actually put effort into it and I didn't
So at that point he can just have it you know
Yap yap yap
I will never quit yapping
Gasp
I need to find the time to finish this character
I've thought a lot about how it would work
It's hard to run
But definitely doable
Also, it's a really good interaction with doom prophet in particular 👀
Yap more
😭 mb twin
Pixlate strikes the coup de grâce!
No no it's like entirely fine
I haven't word counted but I'm fairly sure this next almanac is my longest 👀
I just have the icon left, I don't think there's more I need to do
hyped
Meanwhile the ability text is on the shorter side
Looks like only Subtractor is shorter
currently deciding if i have time for a release rn
i think i do
Babbler
(Outsider): You have a Townsfolk ability. True things you are mad about might become false.
“All roses are red, violet comes before blue. This line is false, and this line's not true.”
The Babbler speaks in lies in order to preserve the truth.
The Babbler has a Townsfolk ability. This Townsfolk might be in play or out of play. The Babbler does not learn which ability have, but they wake as if they were that character.
Things that the Babbler is mad about might become false. This could be absolutely anything, so long as the Babbler is trying to convince town it's true.
Madness, especially Babbler madness, is not the same thing as the words a player says. If the Babbler makes a statement with the intent to strongly imply that they think the statement is false, that means they are mad that the statement is false. It doesn't matter that they're technically saying the statement is true.
Examples
The Babbler has the Subtractor ability, and learns that Coda is not the No Dashii, and talks about this in private. Tonight, Coda's character changes from the Kazali to the No Dashii. They then use their ability to learn that Barch, the Shrike, is not the No Dashii, and tell the group about this. Tonight, Barch and Coda switch characters.
The Babbler with the Innkeeper's ability says they'll protect the Savant tonight. Because they imply that the Savant will not die tonight, the Savant dies to the Babbler's ability tonight, right before the Babbler chooses them.
The Babbler has the Lycanthrope's ability, and has deduced this. They have also deduced that Chal is the Faux Paw, with reasonable certainty. They claim to be the Lycanthrope, but say that Chal could never possibly be the Faux Paw. The way they say this strongly implies that Chal is the Faux Paw, and most players understand this implication. The Faux Paw changes players during the day.
The Babbler figures out that they have the Cannibal ability, and exclaims this excitedly. Tonight, their Townsfolk ability changes from Cannibal to Huntsman. There is no Damsel in play.
DJ the Babbler publicly claims to be the Babbler. The group decides to disregard things he says while alive, because he's probably lying about his information anyway. The Storyteller turns him into the Doom Prophet, because the Doom Prophet is not the Babbler.
How to Run
During setup, choose a Townsfolk ability for the Babbler to have. This Townsfolk may or may not be in play. If it has a setup effect, apply that setup effect (if it's an in-play Townsfolk, apply it twice, when applicable).
If the Babbler has an in-play ability, mark the corresponding Townsfolk with the ABILITY reminder. If the Babbler has a not-in-play ability, replace the Babbler token with that Townsfolk token and mark it with the IS THE BABBLER reminder.
The Babbler has this Townsfolk's ability (do not say which), and will wake at night when this Townsfolk would normally wake. If it is in play, wake them in any order.
If the Babbler is mad about something that is true, you may change the game state so that it is false. So long as it makes what they're mad about false without adding extraneous effects, this can be anything. Change character tokens, reminders, shrouds, or other components accordingly. Use the ? reminders as needed.
Jinx
- Village Idiot: If the Babbler has the Village Idiot ability and a Village Idiot is in play, the Babbler's Village Idiot ability might be drunk instead of a Village Idiot.
{
"id": "babbler_the_academy",
"image": [
"https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/The_Academy\/babbler_the_academy.png",
"https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/Academy_Alternate_Universe\/babler_academy_alternate_universe.png"
],
"reminders": [
"Ability"
],
"remindersGlobal": [
"Is the Babbler",
"?",
"??",
"???"
],
"name": "Babbler",
"team": "outsider",
"ability": "You have a Townsfolk ability. True things you are mad about might become false.",
"flavor": "All roses are red, violet comes before blue. This line is false, and this line's not true.",
"special": [
{
"type": "reveal",
"name": "replace-character"
}
],
"jinxes": [
{
"id": "villageidiot",
"reason": "If the Babbler has the Village Idiot ability and a Village Idiot is in play, the Babbler's Village Idiot ability might be drunk instead of a Village Idiot."
}
]
},```
The Academy ∇ (Welcome To Mountport)
whoa...
Also if you come out as Babbler… you might no longer be the Babbler 
Exactly!!
you become the Storyteller
"hey I'm the Babbler let's execute me immediately" turns you into the boomdandy
It's really fun
Things that the Babbler is bad about might become false. This could be absolutely anything, so long as the Babbler is trying to convince town it's untrue.
this passage has at least one typo and also isn’t phrased very parseably i don’t think?
untrue (false or paradoxical)
this is like if occultist had a terrible child with jurgen leitner and its awesome
There was bound to be at least one in an almanac this big lol
Mfw I'm babbler-general and I learn evil is winning
mfw when i‘m babbler-alchemist-godfather and learn i‘m the only outsider
I love that babbler is so many things at once
Y'all aren't ready for boffin babbler 👀
i would not consider babbler to be a balanced boffin ability
It's not
Unless you give it like babbler poppy grower maybe
Even then
Regardless of balance it's a little insane. And the madness can be traced back to the demon directly if you figure it out
i admire this character because i‘ve tried to make both truth madness and wish madness as characters but always miss the mark
combining them together is really funny
wow i just realised that the workaround of “i am the babbler and i learnt [opposite of my true info]” doesn’t work because lol you’re the doom prophet now
Yeah meanwhile "I am the [townsfolk whose ability you have] and I learned [opposite of my info]" avoids madness penalties usually but doesn't telegraph that you're the babbler and might get you into a hard double claim
A doom prophet that town is convinced is still the babbler is the dream tbh
Such a fun way to do an evil emulator, you just have to say enough false statements that other players get the message
deliberate hinting is a madness tell
I don’t mean like deliberately wink wink or something obvious
It's like how you can indirectly get town to correctly build you as the mutant yeah
Tricky tho
I think it’s funny that good players might assume someone to be babbler and just go with the opposite of whatever they claim
it’s pretty hard to do that with your own actions while still upholding madness rather than town just not having other reasonable explanations for your bullshit
Mutant works by forcing town to make assumptions
There isn’t much you can do, and often people will assume wrong. But you can try not to do too much damage and make it a little bit less confusing
Wait, it's peak all the way down
Bc you'll be claiming false stuff, evil won't kill you. You need to dive atleast a little into the risk in some direction
yeah this is so wild I have no idea how this compares to a mutant/occultist
The idea is that the madness is much more punishing, but it has an entire Townsfolk ability
So it's like [+1 Townsfolk, and a bomb]
Plus it can out freely while dead. That's an important aspect
(good luck dying though)
Notably, being an outsider makes it uniquely immune to a lot of misinfo. No dashii, vortox, barrkoad, xaan, etc can do nothing to a babbler's info (mechanically)
Yes! I love this character. Cool to see a full release.
also Widow Babbler is interesting. Sacrifice the reality warping for Babbler who thinks they are going for something different
Wait a babbler with a widow ping is awesome
If you out that you have a ping then the widow might change characters
(technically this could turn you evil instead but uhh STs pls don't)
“Things that the Babbler is bad about” 🔥
just be mad that you’re alive and hope the ST takes pity on you
holy shit welcome to mountport
can't wait for the musical sing-along botc character
As I prep this char I'm starting to see gaps in the design 😭
Hopefully this is still the next release
Prob with some changes tho
Lowkey that’s what I’m doing with mine too
Emergency changing the ability and doing immediate playtesting
We're finally getting the Baseball-Playing Girl
things the Babbler are mad about might become false
no "is" is correct - "the Babbler" is the subject, not "things"
actually yeah
ignore me on this one
What happened with this game btw 👀
harry & co was unfortunately inactive for most of the game, then travelled out
and then cat maid popped off
Ah fair enough
how was Trixter?
player broke madness d1 and had 0 info against them, making it hard on me to give me good n2 info, then they died n3 due to lycan
Do you recall why they didn't play into Trixter? It's a perfectly valid play, but depending on their reasoning it could potentially be a sign of something worth changing
cracked under the pressure very early on essentially
ill just fuggin forward u when it starts
#1213111657920995379 message it starts basically around here
Please do not, Trickster has to be one of the most fun homebrew Townsfolk I have ever seen. I am not exaggerating.
take this to heart, since aba played as trickster to uncover the demon one time lol
to clarify, I do have plans to change Trixter slightly, but they're mostly buffs and not changes to the base mechanics of the role
if there's like, a whole swath of Trixter playtesting that I've missed feel free to lmk but in my limited experience with it it felt like there were just a few cornerrs on it that needed some polishing
on steroids /j
Ykw hell yeah I'm in for it
I don’t really see how it’s yagg/gossip
It talk
Bro everyone talks 😭
- Neon Trees
IT STARTED WITH A WHISPER
AND THAT WAS WHEN I KISSED HER
AND THEN SHE MADE MY LIPS HURT
Ok I've reworked the character that was clued
I might be retheming it
Which would involve not this clue lol
It's not locked in yet tho
TRUE
The Academy ∇ (Christmas Cheer? Well I mean not really)
-# I'm not gonna be able to get another holiday themed clue in I don't think so here it is
This is what that other character evolved into. Decently different tho
I might reuse that theming for something else, we'll see 👀
We cheer for the Holidays!
Yet it'll be our last day at this world of domination
Currently debating whether or not I should wait on this release or not to give myself time to spot anything I missed/make edits to the details
I could just release it rn
No need to rush i guess
You can always change it if you notice anything about it later
You know what fair enough
I'll release in a bit
By a bit I mean prob an hour or so bc I just woke up
Alright releasing once my computer decides to turn on
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
nuh uh
Just the second half of that
ah theres your problem
(it's on now, I just need to get everything in order)
im so excited to see people react to this lol
hystrex's hit new character xaan with agency
Get hyped
Put your hands together
For the.....
Cheerleader
(Townsfolk): For every 2 players you high-five, you may privately learn a true statement. If you high-five all evil players, evil wins at dusk.
“Give me an I! Give me an N! Give me an F! Give me an O! What's that spell? Doom for us all!”
The Cheerleader gets crazy info when they hype up the town, but can't get too greedy.
Every time the Cheerleader gives a high five to 2 new players, they may visit the Storyteller to learn something true about the game. This can happen multiple times in a single day.
High-fiving a player a second time has no effect. The Cheerleader cannot high-five themself; that would be a clap, not a high five.
During nominations, since players must be in their seats, the Cheerleader may only high-five players within arm's reach. They may not get up for the purposes of high-fiving a player.
If the Cheerleader high-fives the last remaining evil player, evil wins at dusk, after the execution for the day. The Cheerleader does not learn that this will happen (unless it is part of their own info).
The Cheerleader can learn anything, so get creative!
It is up to the Cheerleader to talk with the Storyteller, not the other way around. This isn’t a public conversation, and the group can’t listen in. It’s private.
Examples
On day 1, the Cheerleader high-fives both of their neighbors. They visit the Storyteller and learn that a Outsider neighbors a Minion. They high-five 2 more players, then visit the Storyteller to learn that a Wielder is in play. The day ends, and night 2 begins.
The Cheerleader high-fives the Shrike and the Ojo immediately. There are no other evil players. The Mystic is executed, then evil wins.
BakedIce the Cheerleader high-fives half of the other players, but this happens to include the entire evil team. The demon is executed that day, and good wins.
The Cheerleader high-fives all players consecutively, and visits the Storyteller to receive all of their info in succession. They are executed later that day, and the game continues.
How to Run
If the Cheerleader high-fives another player, tilt that player's token 45 degrees clockwise. For every 2 tokens that are tilted, the Cheerleader may request a private chat with you. Take them away from the circle so you cannot be overheard, and whisper a true statement. (If you have trouble remembering how many statements the Cheerleader is owed, then whenever the Cheerleader gets info, you can tilt 2 tokens that have already been tilted so that they are 45 degrees counter-clockwise instead.)
If you tilt an evil player's token and no other evil players' tokens are un-tilted, mark the Cheerleader with the STUNT FAILED reminder. At the end of today, after the execution, if this reminder is still active, declare that the evil team has won.
When running the Cheerleader online, instead of tilting players' tokens, mark them with a 👏 reminder.
If, for any reason, a pair of players cannot high-five each other, they may visit the Storyteller to say that they are high-fiving. If this would be during nominations, they may publicly declare this if they are neighbors. Additional reminder tokens have also been added for online play.
Jinx
- Vizier: The Cheerleader must high-five the Vizier in order to receive their 2nd piece of info.
{
"id": "cheerleader_the_academy",
"image": [
"https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/The_Academy\/cheerleader_the_academy.png",
"https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/Academy_Alternate_Universe\/cheerleader_academy_alternate_universe.png"
],
"reminders": [
"Stunt Failed",
"\ud83d\udc4f",
"\ud83d\udc4f",
"\ud83d\udc4f",
"\ud83d\udc4f",
"\ud83d\udc4f",
"\ud83d\udc4f",
"\ud83d\udc4f",
"\ud83d\udc4f",
"\ud83d\udc4f",
"\ud83d\udc4f",
"\ud83d\udc4f",
"\ud83d\udc4f",
"\ud83d\udc4f",
"\ud83d\udc4f"
],
"name": "Cheerleader ∇",
"team": "townsfolk",
"ability": "For each 2 players you high-five, you may privately learn a true statement. If you high-five all evil players, evil wins at dusk.",
"flavor": "Give me an I! Give me an N! Give me an F! Give me an O! What's that spell? Doom for us all!",
"jinxes": [
{
"id": "vizier",
"reason": "The Cheerleader must high-five the Vizier in order to receive their 2nd piece of info."
}
]
},
The platonic ideal of clocktower: love winning and then promptly losing
Archer out here jumping between message announcements 😂 can keep their excitement contained
theyve just got that cheerleader spirit i think
I knew what the character was because i snuck into hystrex’s house (i have no fucking clue how i jumped in between announcement)
i always gotta send a handful of messages to fit everything
and to get the icon displaying in the spot i want it
you just sent before i was finished
Awesome
looks less clean but it's really not a big deal
There you go i deleted them to fix it
Not like the messages were anything of substance
Shoutouts to the vizier jinx btw
THIS RULES
i don’t understand why you explicitly banned high fiving people during noms? that feels like a group specific thing
This character’s initial conceit was “whats the funnest thing for people to be bluffing in legion”
you just high five everyone while youre on the block every single time
esp. since some circles will be set up such that a cheerleader can lean across the circle without getting up and high five someone
Its to stop people from getting votes on the cheerleader and then the cheerleader does a high five world tour and gets a billion info
i mean i think the solution to that is just to say that the evil wins at dusk trigger still goes off if the cheerleader is executed? or rewording it to be like mm?
ive never seen this outside teensies, like sure you can get your neighbors' neighbors sometimes but rarely more than that
not letting the cheerleader execute themself to turn it off is really damaging and also inconsistent, idk what the mm idea is
ah so the execution thing is deliberate, gotcha
inconsistent as in, if you execute the demon on that day then good needs to win. and if executing the CL is a loss then executing the demon is also a loss
ya
ah
I mean you could make it "If you high-five all evil players, & the Demon isn't executed today, your team loses."
what’s stopping them from going on a high five world tour immediately on day 1 and then getting themself executed? what makes that more acceptable than your example?
running into character limit real fast with that one
where‘s the recommended rule
wait this has no failsafe if it turns evil lol
there are ways for good to win without executing the demon
there should be one that says “players must publicly use hand sanitiser after the cheerleader high fives”
that doesn’t need to be codified as a rule it’s just how groups of people work
the failsafe is you physically cant high five all evil players bc you cant high five yourself
that bullet point serves a secret bonus purpose lol
on top of the more obvious "you dont get half a statement for free"
if you‘re mez-turned and you know it clap your hands
claps my jands
jands
my phone is smol
i do want the cheerleader to be able to exe themself if they mess up because otherwise it feels like good needs REALLY good cl info on that day in order to have a chance which is just too centralizing
👀
big fan of the "\ud83d\udc4f" reminder
“for each” is not grammatical and you‘re not very sly in saving a single character
it's a 👏!!
get grammar-copped nerd!!!!!
is it not? did the coding mind goblins get to me?
when coding it's ALWAYS for each but idk how much that lines up with actual english lol
two is not individual
so it‘s “for every” yeah
mind goblin?
cheerleader for quadjank 2026
Mind Goblin standoff (grammar vs coding)
actually wtf am i talking about i literally coded a balatro mod
MIND GOBLIN DEEZ NUTS??? RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
GOTTEMMMMM
mods, pin this
yes i do mind actually
well if you say so
so... is Venom the next Demon?
yeah my bad i let the power get to my mind 😔 (goblin)
world cup loser hystrex at it again
i claim slayer and shoot hystrex
TRUE
heard! nobody dies
ah fuck i‘m the lleech host
speaking of the next character
i should decide what i release next
gurple licker
how about a minion that doesn’t die
TRUE!!!!!
babbler 2?!
i mean kinda
I recognise the cheerleader icon!
made in desmos!!
desmos like from math?
i love desmos3d
It's crazy
I didn't even know you could draw in it
Very impressive
fun
An evil also does this and now what
eats the day 1 execution and an evil’s dead 🤷
ok but if you choose the wrong one to execute first evil will just win
cheers!!!
is clapping your hands high fiving yourself
the almanac mentions that it does not
Bro what the actual fuck 😭
Where’s a starboard when you need it lmao
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH GOTTEMMMM
Me when I want to get almanac link and get hit by this peak 
I assume if the cheerleader did the high-five-everyone-and-get-exed thing you'd give significantly less impactful statements?
Generally yes
"you have high fived at least 3 Townsfolk" cinema
Nah it (mostly) shouldn't be that useless but reward the cl for, living and for avoiding evils
So how would you deal with that in a 15 player game with 7 statements
Give like 2 actually useful statements and then use the rest to narrow worlds that were already narrow, probably
Depends on game state
I've been locked in but instead of locking in on school I'm locking in on botc homebrew
New release tonight probably
Yes I know it's been a day, I release whenever I feel like it
I told my profs that I'll be spending all my time on botc and they let me go
You should definitely tell them the same
awesome
It's almost break time, then you can lock in guilt free
true
watch me either release 5 characters over break or 0
(or more idk how much is reasonable to release while on break)
soon.
ok
yay!
the character is the gurple licker 2 its ability is that you go lick a doorknob and then everyone loses
yeah i made this one
xaan with agency
i made that one too
where's the madness clause
poisoner without agency (minion)
on night x, all townsfolk are poisoned until dusk [x is the outsider count]
Cadenza
(Minion): If you have been executed, the Storyteller might follow your public commands from now on.
“Nemmeno Dio può resistere alla melodia della mia musica! Also, you're flat.”
The game becomes the Cadenza's improvised solo.
Once the Cadenza is executed, they can command the Storyteller to do anything. If the Storyteller agrees, they will do whatever the Cadenza told them.
Cadenza commands must be made in public. Private commands cannot be followed. A command is considered public if all players have the opportunity to hear it.
The Cadenza may make as many or as few commands as they wish. The Storyteller may follow as many or as few commands as they feel is fun for the players. The Cadenza may even make commands at night.
If the Cadenza is revived after being executed, they may still command the Storyteller. If the Cadenza was drunk or poisoned when they were executed, but is currently sober & healthy, they may still command the Storyteller.
Examples
Stick is the Cadenza who has been executed. Every day from then on, she publicly chooses a player and tells the Storyteller to poison them until dawn if they are a Townsfolk. The Storyteller poisons those players accordingly.
The Cadenza is executed on day 3. They command the Storyteller to make some true things that the Demon is mad about become false, from now on. The Barrkoad tells players that they think a Barrkoad is in play, and turns into the No Dashii tonight.
Bhamber, the Cadenza, is executed on day 1. For the majority of the game, he makes no commands, continuing to bluff as a good player. During nominations, when just 4 players live, he points to Foxx and says "mods, kill this man". Foxx dies.
How to Run
If the Cadenza is executed, mark them with the SOLO reminder. While this reminder is on the Cadenza, if they publicly command you to do something, you may follow their command. Make any mechanical adjustments to the game to match what the Cadenza wants. Use the various ? reminders as needed.
If you wish, you may say "Music to my ears" or something similar to indicate that a command has been followed. However, this is not required.
Running the Cadenza can be tricky. Don't be afraid to take your time to consider whether or not to follow a command. If in doubt, you can always not follow a command, and the Cadenza can repeat the command later or make a weaker version of the command, if they want. However, keep in mind that Cadenza games are most fun then as many commands are followed as possible while maintaining some balance.
Jinxes
- Plague Doctor: If the Plague Doctor is executed & Storyteller gains the Cadenza ability, a Minion gains it instead & learns this.
- Wielder: If the Wielder gains the Cadenza ability, a Minion gains it instead & learns this. If they are executed on or before the Wielder's 1st day, they keep it for the rest of the game.
{
"id": "cadenza_the_academy",
"image": [
"https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/The_Academy\/cadenza_the_academy.png",
"https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/Academy_Alternate_Universe\/cadenza_academy_alternate_universe.png"
],
"reminders": [
"Solo",
"?",
"??",
"???"
],
"name": "Cadenza",
"team": "minion",
"ability": "If you have been executed, the Storyteller might follow your public commands from now on.",
"flavor": "Nemmeno Dio pu\u00f2 resistere alla melodia della mia musica! Also, you're flat.",
"jinxes": [
{
"id": "plaguedoctor",
"reason": "If the Plague Doctor is executed & Storyteller gains the Cadenza ability, a Minion gains it instead & learns this."
}
]
},```
omg its this one!
it's this one!!
Goddamn that is cool
this one is cool
The Academy ∇ (idk, Bats Probably? The Theming Isn't Locked In For This One Yet)
Release Links (pt 2)
Cadenza: #1399910044413460582 message
Mirorim: #1399910044413460582 message
i cant believe hystrex is adding wealthy orphans
ran out of space on the other one
I can't believe hys🦖 would let Cadenza kill all those village idiots
if the cadenza says "kill all the village idiots" then im most likely just letting them
the cadenza is allowed to get away with a lot, including kills
Also what does the flavour text mean
Wow
thanks to @rotund raft for that!!
Gave +1 Thanks to @rotund raft (current: #1149 - 21)
wtf dude why are you saying this about random discurd users
FUCK
mods, kill this fae
it's a sidegrade to boomdandy which just, uh, Ends the Game so yeah this can have nice things
yeah exactly
they can ask for anything
enough
"the game becomes their solo" can be taken somewhat literally if you want, as long as it's fun for everyone
No I meant it as how far can they go
Walk
mods can you kill this fucking guy
Run
oh
pretty far, usually
that third example is fire
-the cadenza
Guys, can we please let Kibitz travel in as a single entity
🗣️
apprentice spy !!
the next time I see a spam bot I'm @-ing the doomsayers and making my cadenza request
👁️
Btw
Have you noticed
The top and the bottom of this emoji don't align
👁️
👁️
oh huh
wait chat there are so many silly things you can do with this, like asking to see the grim or ask to let you open your eyes at night
Or ask for a complete script change
Mid game
"hey DM? I'd like to make an insight check on whether this player is lying to me"
st? can i run votes now
ST? Can we combine every player by pairs of 2
wait chat I have such a great idea after you get executed: since you're outed evil, you can pull deal-with-the-devil kinda contracts. Even if not strictly optimal, it's hilarious
AWESOME
Oh, what's this? You want to know whether X person is the demon? I'll tell you, but for a price...
yeah i mean i would
however this is an incredibly funny thing to say as not the cadenza
@shrewd sphinx if you do it in a real game as Cadenza I'll give you 5
Mystic is super cool, but if the demon triggers it early what is stopping them from just not killing from now on. It becomes pretty obvious the player asking everyone to kill them actually is the demon
uhhhh
evil can bluff this
still you make a good point
might just say the ST chooses their kills instead then?
Mystic (Townsfolk): Demons who nominate, execute, & kill their last living ally become good tonight. The Storyteller makes their choices for them, even if you're dead.
?
149 chars 😔
i'll figure it out, which may or may not mean leaving it as is
as opposed to what?
boomdandy or similar?
a minion bluffing this late game
evil could be awesome and based and coordinate that
yeah evil can coordinate this
the key was “triggers it early”
sure
i don’t think it’s a problem at all if it happens late?
that's difficult by design but yes it can be bluffed regardless
if it somehow happens really early (which is difficult) then it just gets the n1 snarmer treatment
“whoopsie, well we have time for another”
i think it’s fine as is
I get that, but by early I just mean literally any time you aren’t reducing the game to f3.
“The Storyteller chooses for them”
135, not bad
i think you could have "even if you die" here
Demons who nominate, execute, & kill their last alive ally become good tonight. The Storyteller chooses for them, even if you die.
which brings it down to 130
Maybe yeah
I think this is just a matter of playtesting it and seeing if it's actually a bad thing in practice
Doesn't this wording include even if they haven't nominated yet though? I guess it's implied.
It's supposed to be implied yeah
"them" is "demons who nominate [...]", not just "demons"
The Academy ∇ (In The Beginning)
Still staying with the other character just swapping the release order
My fav here is unironically high roller
h.
is this a hint for a timer demon
Yeah it's a hint for escapod
Something big is coming
So you remember how I started out making showcase scripts for characters and then I stopped because it turns out that's hard to do consistently?
Well I didn't start making them again, I have something better
The first of these showcase scripts had Bean Spiller and Bistella, and it was kinda bad
But what if I told you there was a script with both of those characters and it was good instead of bad?
did you execute all of the demons on script/j
Yippee something to run in livetext
i was about to make that joke but for longtext
8pm. Under cover of the bean factory. It's the only chance we've got to coordinate. You in?
Rendezvous is a BMR-like centered around the Bean Spiller and Bistella. In a genre of script so heavily centered around evil coordination and good players lying, an evil team seeing the Grimoire can be devastating, and doubly so if it pierces a Poppy Grower's blinding effect. Good players might experience some whiplash as they first try and hide things from evil before coming out swinging if a Bean Spiller claim dies at night — but if they can adapt and figure out the evil players amidst everything, they've got the upper hand. Meanwhile, evil players might feel lost at first, but once they start coordinating, they can plan some truly wicked stuff to make full use of their abilities.
If the PG dies droisoned or the ability goes out of play, evil learns each other.
-# (You can probably run without this bootleg and it'll go fine, but for safety, you know?)
Ruling notes:
- In a Poppy Grower game, wake the Bistellae separately for Demon info.
- If evil knows each other in a Bistella game, consider letting evil know the order in which you'll wake the Bistellae to help them coordinate better. It can feel bad to have a play ruined by ST fiat.
- Bistella / Mastermind: If the Mastermind ability procs in a Bistella game, the game will end the next day via the MM ability.
Fighting hard to not say “wow another axolator Ojo godfather script”
Are Bean Spiller and Poppy Grower jinxed or is that deliberate
Deliberate
when did axolator make this?
couple months ago :) haven't shared it very widely
And there's more where it came from 👀👀👀
BMR LIKE!!!! YEAHHHHH
Update: I started a third major homebrew project so academy stuff is gonna be slower for a while
I haven't forgotten about it tho!! There will still be characters and scripts
Any details?
Tomb
Anyone in The Kitchen can see the dozens of character drafts I've sent there lol
Shameless plug time, I'll be putting most of my thoughts for this project in The Kitchen, and i tend to put academy stuff there first too in one form or another
Ok I meant to make that not embed but like whatever
Oh I know that place
fork found in kitchen
what is the intended interaction for a PD-Shrike? my assumption for the intended interaction is that if a Plague Doctor is executed and the ST would gain the Shrike ability, then Good has to avoid executing a Good player to avoid a PD-Shrike loss, but I don't think that's necessarily how it would work given the current wording?
atm, I think the wording for a PD-Shrike would work one of two ways:
- The "you" in the PD-Shrike ability refers to the PD, which then means that if the Good team executes an evil player, Good wins: this doesn't necessarily feel correct though as it might kinda fall into the camp of "an Outsider ability harming the Evil team"
- The "you" refers to the Storyteller, as they now have the Shrike ability from the PD: this then means that the PD-Shrike ability does nothing though since the ST isn't on a team
