The Academy ∇

[split notch]

"you cant script with more than one extra evil" mfw 4 demons with extra evils

[arctic olive]

Omw to build majorix fg lot legion

Oh also matsu

Can't forget matsu

[glossy salmon]

bsn 2

[hazy goblet]

GRAHHH 100% WINRATE IN THE ACADEMY EXAMPLES

[gloomy onyx]

Of course Im the mutant in the example Hystrex, of course

[glossy salmon]

mutant says what

[gloomy onyx]

Anyways I’d be really interested in trying this sometime

what

[arctic olive]

I HAD TO

Of course I used livetext names on the leviathan adjacent demon and of course I made you the mutant

[glossy salmon]

i mean... if you wanted to... you could mention that exiles dont count and use one of the travelers as another example

[arctic olive]

Wait actually that would be really funny

"dotcross is exiled and does not die. Requiem is exiled and does not die. Random is exiled and does not die. Pebbles is exiled and does not die. Vati is exiled and does not die. Axo is exiled and does not die. Req, random, pebbles, and vati are all good, but evil has not yet won because exiles don't count as executions."

[glossy salmon]

vati is "good"

[arctic olive]

Glad someone caught that

[tiny sluice]

Recluse didn’t misregister, fake

/j

[arctic olive]

I chose recluse to give an example of a correct use of might lol

[arctic olive]

majorix script as well

[dry lava]

Make it: 1 player becomes an evil Majorix instead of the engineer

That means it's never a safe engi play

[tiny sluice]

An additional player becomes an evil Majorix.

[dry lava]

Also means the engi can use the info to confirm it's a Majorix in-play which is generally the intent behind engineer

[tiny sluice]

I’d assume a role like this would have a similar jinx with Majorix.

[vapid cipher]

anything is possible? can't wait for the new character that grants wishes, the Sorcerer

wait

[glossy salmon]

i can’t believe hystrex is creating a sequel to hit traveler the sorcerer

[arctic olive]

Yeah sorry guys the final character of the first set is sorcerer but with one less squiggle

[serene egret]

oh of course, the sorcere

[dry lava]

The sorerer

It's back is really sore

[steel burrow]

Like the oregon exploding whales? (Off topic)

[brisk glen]

currently studying for my calculus exam in like 45 minutes and the fucking nabla sign for this thread is pissing me off

[arctic olive]

Don't forget to study for your clocktower final too

Anything from any of the releases could appear on it

[brisk glen]

Update: I think I passed

[brisk glen]

Yeah anything is possible

[arctic olive]

TRUE

you know originally i was gonna release majorix as the last character from the first pack but i like this one as a better finisher

especially for an "academy", because its flavor text is about studying and its icon is a book and it was originally based on a character that has to do with knowledge

[sly leaf]

wait HUGE

can't believe i missed hystrex homebrew dropping

[arctic olive]

it's ok you're here now just in time to cram before the final drop of the first set

oh also theres prob a pack of ~3 in the works as well. we'll see

[glossy salmon]

i cant believe you're releasing the librarian

[serene egret]

no way hystrex is releasing Boulder, Parchment, and Shears all at once

[vapid cipher]

#golem-bureaucrat-seamstress reference? i had no idea he was a textplayer

[arctic olive]

ive played a handful of longtexts at this point, you know this

[tiny sluice]

They explode because gas from fermentation and decay builds up in their guts, leading to a high pressure which then causes them to pop.

[steel burrow]

no, it was from people in oregon deciding the best way to deal with a washed up whale was with dynamite

lots of dynamite

in the whale

[tiny sluice]

Whales explode if you leave them to decay long enough.

[glossy salmon]

they do, but dynamite also causes whales to explode

[arctic olive]

get your notebooks ready

am i leaning into the loose school theming too hard? maybe. but youre gonna have to deal with it i think

because the first semester is drawing to a close

[tiny sluice]

How is 1 semester only like 2 weeks 💀

It’s supposed to be 6 months

[arctic olive]

hey dont worry about it

[dawn olive]

holy shit hystrex is releasing the librarian

[arctic olive]

Doom Prophet

(Outsider): Each day, something bad happens. You may visit the Storyteller to learn it is 1 of 2 things.

“I'm studying the manmade horrors so that they are no longer beyond my comprehension. Ignore Larry, he's the flesh-eating void monster behind me tearing down houses. He tends to do that sometimes, but I need to stay focused on my studies.”

The Doom Prophet warns town of catastrophe.

While the Doom Prophet has their ability, something bad for their team will happen each day. This can be anything, so get creative!

These events must start during the day, but can last into the night, or even for the whole game.

Events can be based on a condition, and can happen in the following night. They cannot, however, affect anything before the Doom Prophet is able to learn about it (i.e. before dawn).

The Doom Prophet may consult the Storyteller to learn 2 things, in no particular order: one is the bad thing that's happening today, and the other is something else that could have been today's event, but isn't.

The Doom Prophet may choose not to visit the Storyteller. The bad thing still happens and is not affected by this.

Examples

The Fisherman is poisoned by the Doom Prophet's ability. The Doom Prophet visits the Storyteller and learns that either if they die during the day, their Townsfolk neighbors will be poisoned, or that the Fisherman is poisoned.

Paradox is the Doom Prophet. He learns that he might register as evil from now on, or that Kuro might die if they are mad they are an Outsider starting tonight. Neither are true, because Vati the Widow has made the bold choice to poison Paradox.

How to Run

Each day, make some kind of negative effect happen. This could be anything at all, so long as it begins during the day. Use the various ? reminders as needed.

Once per day, if the Doom Prophet requests a private chat with you, take them away from the circle so you cannot be overheard. Whisper two things, one being today's negative effect and one being anything at all, to the Doom Prophet.

    {
        "id": "doomprophet_the_academy",
        "image": [
            "https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/The_Academy\/doomprophet_the_academy.png",
            "https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/Academy_Alternate_Universe\/doomprophet_academy_alternate_universe.png"
        ],
        "reminders": [
            "?",
            "??",
            "???"
        ],
        "name": "Doom Prophet",
        "team": "outsider",
        "ability": "Each day, something bad happens. You may visit the Storyteller to learn it is 1 of 2 things.",
        "flavor": "I'm studying the manmade horrors so that they are no longer beyond my comprehension. Ignore Larry, he's the flesh-eating void monster behind me tearing down houses. He tends to do that sometimes, but I need to stay focused on my studies."
    },```

[arctic olive]

The Academy ∇ (Misfits Dual Release???)

[tiny sluice]

“Something bad” sob

[arctic olive]

Now that DP is out, i'll finally post the almanac on purpose

https://www.bloodstar.xyz/p/hystrex/The_Academy/almanac.html

[arctic olive]

but there's more coming!!! you'll have to wait and see 👀

[tiny sluice]

People making “something bad” and “something good” chars that aren’t Fabled is weird

[arctic olive]

it IS weird. but with experience you get a feel for how to handle these sorts of things

in this case, a good player (the doom prophet) knows all the bad things it could possibly do

[glossy salmon]

"He learns that he might register as from now on"

[drowsy pelican]

Maybe something about boxing???

Misfits = boxing

[glossy salmon]

misread shriek as not having a "i" 😭

[arctic olive]

Oh whoops

Fixed

[arctic olive]

Ur not the first

I'm really not tied to the name, ik it's probably a font thing but there's a 50/50 shot I rename that regardless

(suggestions welcome)

Whenever I listen to ruler of everything I now think about Escapod and idk if that's a good or bad thing

[glossy salmon]

oh wow

[serene egret]

idk The Line seems to have limited applications

I think it plays pretty well on bmr tho, gonna try it out

[woven oar]

The Line is peak

[untold kettle]

incredible choice of pun in the examples

[split notch]

sorry i saw the name and i couldnt hold myself ||man i do love dp||

[steel fractal]

Is doom prophet not just a policy execution here?

[drowsy pelican]

You mean dude perfect right? Right?

[split notch]

right yes

nothing else

[drowsy pelican]

Well firstly you’re wasting an execution on a good player so that’s not really great, but secondly you can use your ability to confirm yourself

[steel fractal]

Real and fair

Hmm, yeah, like recluse a lil bit, but more confirmable

[drowsy pelican]

Like, again, this is why Golem is an Outsider

You waste 2 different chances to get the Demon

One when you nuke an innocent player

And the second when you have to execute the Golem, under penalty of loss with a TPK

[steel fractal]

I think its just one, right?

Like you lose one execution total

No, I'm being a muppet

I was thinking 2 deaths = one lost execution

[drowsy pelican]

Depending on the player count, the extra death might require you to skip

[steel fractal]

Wait, no, I think it is just one lost execution

I can't be bothered to think carefully about it tbh

[drowsy pelican]

And also golem is for Tomb scripts where the number of players that die each night isn’t consistent

[split notch]

dr tomb nerding out

🤓 golem is an outsider actually 🤓

[drowsy pelican]

And so you never know when your final day is nor how many good nominations you have

[drowsy pelican]

I will fucking die on this hill

[split notch]

the hill i die on is luis is a nerd

[drowsy pelican]

-# (With love)

Anyways

Doom Prophet is cool and totally radical bro

[split notch]

fuck whats the word

like whats the verb for saying no

[drowsy pelican]

Nuh uh

[woven oar]

I don't think exing the Golem to avoid TPK is worth it most cases

[split notch]

i can only think of it in spanish

[split notch]

its only worth it if death count is irregular

[woven oar]

Fair

[drowsy pelican]

(Which is the space it would be in)

[split notch]

jokes on you I love levi golem 😌

[drowsy pelican]

Bruh

Axt Golem :clueless:

Anyways

[split notch]

i love when my outsider is literally more of a tf than virgin

[drowsy pelican]

Hystrex release a golem-like and my life is yours

[split notch]

hmm yet no reply to my msg in sp... playing favourites i see

[drowsy pelican]

Bro I don’t have notifs on come on 😭

[split notch]

this is why we check what chats are unread in servers we frequent luis

[arctic olive]

Adding onto what Luis said, the doom prophet can have effects that proc on its own execution if you're worried about that sort of thing (I made sure to include that in the examples)

But yeah you're just executing a good player lol

[arctic olive]

I SHOULD

Wait what exactly qualifies as golem like? Confirmable conformist that's also still an outsider?

[tiny sluice]

Nuke Outsider 🔥

[drowsy pelican]

An outsider where their confirmation hurts them

[arctic olive]

Ok yeah that sounds fun

Tricky tho, of course

[tiny sluice]

What if

Golem but vote

(I’m not that bad to not let them vote at least once a day)

[arctic olive]

Guys I made a typo and it turns out that shrikes are AWESOME

They impale their prey on thorns in order to aura farm

I might rename shriek to shrike tbh

[serene egret]

based, shrikes are sick

[arctic olive]

Ok I really like the idea of calling it shrike lol

I wanna make its icon an outsider's icon getting impaled

[split notch]

i never expected this from you...

[arctic olive]

Not sure which outsider, but there's one below the line with currently no theming

[split notch]

the brainrot....

[arctic olive]

Look it up tho it's real

[split notch]

ok ill google it

[glossy salmon]

pacifist

[split notch]

ok thats a fucked up bird

[glossy salmon]

(for the bird theming)

[arctic olive]

I'm also considering doing this with a singular bean from the bean spiller

[glossy salmon]

do that

[serene egret]

impale all of the hatter's hats maybe?

would be funny, like a kebab kinda thing

[arctic olive]

wait outsider kebab kinda goes hard

[serene egret]

love me my meal of:
banana peel
bird (shaped mask)
wings
molotov cocktail

[covert harbor]

What do people think of Alasa? I feel like most of the time, it would be better to just enjoy the extra evil if they find them, rather than out both yourself and your teammate for some extra kills. I guess the idea is it threatens to end the game and forces an early final 3?

[arctic olive]

yeah the extra evil is the main part of the ability

the kills used to be a wincon, kills are partway to a wincon

[brisk glen]

If an alch poisoner poisons a Bistella would the game not continue after their execution

[glossy salmon]

the game would continue

thats funny

[arctic olive]

Oh true

Yeah that's funny

[hazy goblet]

I do think that like DP just sacrifices itself d1

because it’s so harmful

[arctic olive]

This has been discussed

If it's really that bad you can tell it it has the saint ability idk

Individual effects should generally not be all that devastating anyways

[arctic olive]

I think I'm gonna do this with recluse

Well, attempt

This also lets me further my mission of subtly spreading "the recluse token is red" propaganda

[serene egret]

ah of course, your personal agenda

[dull scaffold]

i dont see it honestly, provided the something bad effects are kept to itself being dynamic and unconstrained

a good storyteller will find dynamic outputs for the DP that can hurt both teams, or just the winning one

and because its ability is so unconstrained like this, i can imagine doom prophets wont get themselves executed cause 1. they arent the demon, and 2. hopefully they do hurt the evil team

[dull scaffold]

thats dumb...

[arctic olive]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves, it's still an outsider

[arctic olive]

It is but if you need an extreme measure to correct a meta it's something you can do

[dull scaffold]

so is golem and yet that has good potential positive utility

[arctic olive]

I wouldn't ever expect a DP to actually help good, but maybe it can have helpful side effects (like confirming itself)

But like. It'll be like "the Doom Prophet selected you: you can't vote on anyone but them tomorrow!"

This kind of thing is fun too because the other statement can be "or an evil player knows to bluff this"

[arctic olive]

wait i love how this came out

that never happens

[arctic olive]

i never released the DP monohybrid did i

warning, it's mid 😭

there's a much more interesting DP script in the works 👀

[dull scaffold]

why is lil monsta there with FT, Exorcist, and Soldier 😭

[arctic olive]

it's fine 😇

yeah i mean

[dull scaffold]

also gambler... vrooo

[arctic olive]

it's not the best script

ok gambler is not the problem

[dull scaffold]

i mean with LM

also kinda

wack

[arctic olive]

the script im currently cooking tho is fire

and it has doom prophet

[dull scaffold]

id recommend doing Pukka instead of LM

or Zombuul

[arctic olive]

not zombuul 😭

[past light]

the yellow sign 🗣️

[arctic olive]

pukka is a lot of doison, id need to swap out sh or something and i dont feel like it

[dull scaffold]

make a new demon

y'know what

genuinely...

riot could slap w this instead of LM...

[past light]

i like DP but i think "Each day" is a kinda weird timing

also yeah i think it would go harder if its EID

but then again maybe its me trying to make it closer to yellow sign 😭

[arctic olive]

part of why LM is there is for minion volume reasons but you know actually i do have a demon in the works that would solve that............

it, uh, isnt balanced on this script. or rather it swings way too hard with the setup

[past light]

doom prophet is wizard bluffable yeppers

[arctic olive]

Unless something goes horribly wrong, the character list for this is finally locked in

[dull scaffold]

❌ WRONG! doom prophet in-play!

you learn that your script must now include legion, or you run the game with all BMR travellers

[arctic olive]

You'll never guess what one of the very first characters I put on the script was

I think it went alasa -> legion -> goblin lol

[dull scaffold]

[arctic olive]

i redid all the textures 👀

oh alasa is there too i just forgot to post

these will be on bloodstar soon

[glossy salmon]

oh this is so much better

unifier icon kinda ugly tho

[past light]

yo why bean spiller so crusty now 😭

sollos and escapod got hard now

so does surveyor

[glossy salmon]

escapod looks sooo much better now

[glossy salmon]

yeah it’s weirdly dark now?

[arctic olive]

idk thats just how the texture lined up

[arctic olive]

finally got around to updating these lol

[vapid cipher]

would changing the bean spiller ability text to "evil Minions & Demons" solve the issue? or is the intent for BH/Alasa-evil townsfolk to see the grim

[past light]

i actually think its kinda fire

if the bean spiller dies and like suddenly there's this 4th mf

[arctic olive]

The problem is that those are evil players that can turn good, I want BH evil/mez turnees/evil ogres/etc to wake with evil

[hazy goblet]

evil ogres waking with evil makes bluffing evil ogre impossible >_<

[arctic olive]

Bean Spiller is evil

It's not a fabled or something

[glossy salmon]

outsider

not evil

[arctic olive]

Sorry

The player claiming bean spiller is evil

And therefore the ogre can still be evil

[dawn olive]

i mean like

i dont consider that a problem?

its two outsider abilities why would it help good lmao

[arctic olive]

Release Links

Bean Spiller: #1399910044413460582 message
Bistella: #1399910044413460582 message
Sorcerer: #1399910044413460582 message
Escapod: #1399910044413460582 message
Unifier: #1399910044413460582 message
Surveyor: #1399910044413460582 message
Sollos: #1399910044413460582 message
Alasa: #1399910044413460582 message
Majorix: #1399910044413460582 message
Doom Prophet: #1399910044413460582 message
Wielder: #1399910044413460582 message
Shrike: #1399910044413460582 message
Mystic: #1399910044413460582 message
Barrkoad: #1399910044413460582 message
Subtractor: #1399910044413460582 message
Horde: #1399910044413460582 message
Highroller: #1399910044413460582 message
Time Eater: #1399910044413460582 message
Babbler: #1399910044413460582 message
Cheerleader: #1399910044413460582 message

[arctic olive]

for no reason in particular, what would be the best way to include the bloodstar almanac in a google drive

currently i have a .txt file with the link which works but surely theres a better option

[sturdy shell]

no clue

just use a website

like me B)

[shrewd sphinx]

You'd likely want it in pdf form for Google Drive storage (assuming you aren't happy with your current system)

This would require either using cntrl+P (or an equivalent), which gets you a PDF, but it's far from high quality. The other option is just making a PDF almanac by hand. I know Luis and Ella have experience but it seems like quite a bit of work

[arctic olive]

yeah this is me trying to avoid the work that comes with a proper pdf lol

i could prob just make a pdf and manually update it when i release stuff

like the ctrl p option

[arctic olive]

some more stuff still has to happen before i drop the next big thing but as a bit of a sneak peak: it's a MHD-inspired polyhybrid that really messes with the concept of alignment and gets good players bluffing just about everything. it's called Howl, which comes from the title of this song that inspired a lot of the vibes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PucVbDTwnrE

[glossy salmon]

i hear his castle can move

[arctic olive]

oh shoot i should put HBL rook on the script for the reference and for no other reason

featuring characters from:

• The Misfits
• Tir-Far's Archive
• Circus Music
• Homebrews By Luis
• The Arcanum
• Brewulation & Boilers
• The Bootlegger's Anthology

[drowsy pelican]

25 Vampires 🔥

[arctic olive]

the doom prophet info is gonna be "everyone else becomes a vampire tonight or i am the pope"

[glossy salmon]

ok this song is great

[arctic olive]

IKR???

[split notch]

if it doesnt have howl im rioting

[split notch]

oh hey the family crest i probably should listen to it

ive been meaning to listen to them more

[shrewd sphinx]

Circus Music characters? Idk if this will worker

[drowsy pelican]

@tiny sluice why do you keep reacting to stuff with a skull

[arctic olive]

It doesn't have howl

I named this before I knew about howl iirc

Howl is also just not very good with most of these Minions

It works fine with some but like what are you gonna do with a bhampire post setup

[arctic olive]

They're so good :D

[arctic olive]

I've been workering hard on it

[fluid acorn]

he has a rare condition where if he sees a discord message and doesnt skull react it he explodes

[split notch]

live laugh love

[split notch]

[split notch]

it keeps us dancing is fire

ive heard more of theirs but it keeps us dancing is the one i come back to often

howls here bc ive liked it today but the other ones are the ones ive heard already

[arctic olive]

Her Song 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

I need to listen to more family crest

[arctic olive]

The ending was so incredibly jarring the first time

[split notch]

yeah her song is awsome but it keeps us dancing is awsomer

[arctic olive]

Listening rn

It good

[split notch]

hm, im working on something so i can probably put it on in the bg

[drowsy pelican]

I’m genuinely asking tho

Bc it’s borderline disrespectful

[arctic olive]

Wielder

(Demon): Each night, choose a player: they die. You have a not-in-play Minion ability on your 1st night & day.*

“I am merely the hilt; my true power is derived from whatever blade I find in my possession.”

The Wielder has a Minion ability, but not for long.

On the first night & day, the Wielder has the ability of an out of play Minion. On the first night, they learn which.

If the Demon has an ability that modifies the setup, such as a Shrike, these changes are made during setup, as normal.

If a Wielder is made partway through a game, they have the Minion ability on their first night & day.

Immediately after dusk, the Wielder loses their Minion ability, but can still kill a player each night.

Examples

Lady Mist is the Wielder with the Goblin ability. On the first day, she claims goblin when nominated and is executed that day. Evil wins.

The Wielder has the Godfather's ability. An extra Outsider is in play, and the Wielder learns which Outsiders are in play. They will never kill with the Godfather ability.

How to Run

When preparing the bag, decide which Minion ability the Wielder will have. Set it aside and apply any setup abilities it has.

On the first night, wake the Wielder and show them the character token of the Minion ability they have. Place it by the Wielder token, and treat the Wielder as if they had this character ability.

After dusk, if the Wielder has a Minion token by their character token, remove it from the Grimoire.

Each night except the first, wake the Wielder. They point at any player. That player dies - mark them with the DEAD reminder. Put the Wielder to sleep.

---

Jinxes

Assassin: If the Wielder gains the Assassin ability, they have it on night 2 as well.
Boomdandy: If the Wielder gains the Boomdandy ability, a Minion gains it instead & learns this.
Marionette: If the Wielder gains the Marionette ability, they draw a good character's token from the bag and neighbor a Minion. They receive their full set of Demon info on night 2 instead of night 1.
Mastermind: If the Wielder gains the Mastermind ability & dies by execution while they have it, they do not lose it.
Mezepheles: If the Wielder gains the Mezepheles ability, they have it on night 2 as well.
Pit-Hag: If the Wielder gains the Pit-Hag ability, they have it on night 2 as well.
Scarlet Woman: If the Wielder gains the Scarlet Woman ability, a Minion gains it instead & learns this.
Summoner: If the Wielder gains the Summoner ability, a Minion gains it instead & must make a Wielder & learns this. It lasts until the end of night 3 & the new Wielder does not gain an ability.
Time Eater: If the Wielder gains the Time Eater ability, a Minion gains it instead & learns this. If they are executed, they do not lose the ability.

Also check out #1274417851524059258!!! we're doing a dual release thingy, and theres more to come from both of us 👀

[glossy salmon]

summoner doesnt need “it lasts until the end of night 3”

[arctic olive]

why not??

the evil team is gonna need a demon

[glossy salmon]

ahhh ic

[arctic whale]

Side not: Love the Weilder jinxes

[glossy salmon]

i was interpreting “a minion gains it instead” as “permanently”

[arctic olive]

ohhh

[glossy salmon]

which isn’t consistent with the other phrasings i know

[arctic olive]

my line of thinking was that "instead" implies everything about the original source, and so it needs it

[glossy salmon]

you could make it “a minion permanently gains it instead”

[arctic olive]

like how mayor bounced imp kills are still imp kills

[arctic olive]

idk im not super pressed for character count on jinxes, if theres a mechanical difference im happy to but idrts

[glossy salmon]

less character count, more the double ampersand thing looks super clunky to me

triple i guess

[arctic olive]

🤷

i havent made monohybrids for anything in this dual release yet (theyre on the polyhybrid) but im totally gonna put this with sollos

[arctic whale]

Yea. Wielder is cool

its with Spy is also somehow a better version of Haerbreake

[arctic olive]

noooo haer is cool tho

[glossy salmon]

yeah that makes sense for the others, but here i was thinking that since there’s no wielder in play theres no reason for the timer to tick down (but since its a jinx replacing the effect it makes sense that it still ticks down)

[arctic olive]

Shrike

(Minion): If a good Outsider was executed yesterday & a player you oppose is executed today, your team wins. [+1 Outsider]

“It's not malicious, I promise! I'm only saving my food for later. Just... ignore the blood stains.”

The Shrike finishes the job after town puts an Outsider on the stake.

On the execution immediately following an Outsider's execution, if a player of opposite alignment to the Shrike (usually good) is executed, the Shrike's team wins immediately.

If the previously executed player was an evil Outsider, the Shrike does not detect this.

If a Shrike is created the night after a good Outsider is executed, the win condition is active. If an opponent of the Shrike is executed today, the Shrike's team will win.

Examples

Moll is the Shrike and Mai is the Damsel that got executed yesterday. Curious_Goods the Surveyor is executed, and evil wins.

Dodgydisc is an Outsider that got executed today, and a Shrike is alive. Tomorrow, nobody is executed. The Shrike's win condition does not activate, even when a good player is executed the following day.

How to Run

If a good Outsider is executed, mark them with the EXECUTED reminder. At the start of each night, if there's a leftover EXECUTED reminder from a previous day, remove it.

If a player on the opposite team to the Shrike is executed while the EXECUTED reminder is in the Grimoire, immediately end the game and announce that the Shrike's team has won.

Jinxes

Politician: The Politician registers as evil to the Shrike.
Drunk: The Drunk registers as evil to the Shrike.

    {
        "id": "shrike_the_academy",
        "image": [
            "https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/The_Academy\/shrike_the_academy.png",
            "https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/Academy_Alternate_Universe\/shrike_academy_alternate_universe.png"
        ],
        "reminders": [
            "Executed"
        ],
        "setup": true,
        "name": "Shrike ∇",
        "team": "minion",
        "ability": "If a good Outsider was executed yesterday & a player you oppose is executed today, your team wins. [+1 Outsider]",
        "flavor": "It's not malicious, I promise! I'm only saving my food for later. Just... ignore the blood stains.",
        "jinxes": [
            {
                "id": "politician",
                "reason": "The Politician registers as evil to the Shrike."
            },
            {
                "id": "drunk",
                "reason": "The Drunk registers as evil to the Shrike."
            }
        ]
    },```

[arctic whale]

Also, poor Recuse

But the good news is surely the ST will decide they were an evil character. Surely

[arctic olive]

surely :D

this one is easily my favorite icon ive drawn

[vapid cipher]

@hoary flume violence

[arctic olive]

violence

[hoary flume]

nice lol

[arctic olive]

oh also i combined them because it works well enough

wielder is a hilt, shrike is a spike, together they make a dagger

[serene egret]

adds more lore to the story of whoever has it out for person

[arctic olive]

yeah sorry person this entire homebrew project is just about me stabbing you

[serene egret]

the next character is gonna be the villain origin story for whoever's holding the dagger

[arctic olive]

i mean

actually it does tie in 😭

probably not how you think though

[serene egret]

it's not too much of a stretch to make a whole story out of these characters:
sollos bow + arrow is aiming at person, the doom prophet tells him so he evades, and then the wielder shows up and stabs him

[arctic olive]

i tried making one of these where the sollos bow & arrow was coming out of the hilt but it looked bad lol

[serene egret]

oh maybe the bean spiller leaks person's location to the bad guys >:)

[arctic olive]

yall arent ready for the academy extended universe

[serene egret]

I can't wait for the next Bistella movie

[hoary flume]

im a main character

[arctic olive]

Mystic

(Townsfolk): Demons who nominate, execute, & kill their last living ally become good tonight. They can't die at night, even if you're dead.

“A little bit of well-placed fairy dust will solve all your problems, simple as that. We just don't have a way to get any... hmm, that's a problem.”

The Mystic gives the Demon another option.

If a Demon nominates & executes an evil player, leaving no evil players alive besides the Demon, that Demon becomes good tonight. If multiple evil players live, this cannot happen.

The Demon does not change alignment immediately. It happens at night, after the Demon kills a player.

If for any reason the good Demon created by the Mystic would die at night, they do not.

Examples

Cursed Relic is the Mystic. Palsonny, the Demon, nominates and executes the Shrike. No other evil players are alive. Tonight, Palsonny turns good.

A Demon nominates & executes their own Minion, but since another Minion is alive, the Mystic's ability doesn't activate. They nominate & execute their other Minion, and since no other evil players live, the Demon turns good tonight.

On night 2, a Demon turns good due to the Mystic's ability. On every subsequent night, they attack themself, but the Mystic's ability protects them. Eventually, they are executed, and win with the good team.

How to Run

If a Demon nominates, executes, and kills one of their allies, and the only remaining living evil player is that Demon, mark them with the MYSTIFIED reminder. Tonight, wake them and show them the YOU ARE info token and a thumbs-up to indicate that they are good.

The player marked with the MYSTIFIED reminder cannot die at night.

If a player marked with the MYSTIFIED reminder becomes evil, remove the reminder.

Jinxes

Leviathan: If the Mystic ability is active & the Leviathan nominates & executes an ally on day 4, they turn good that night.
Lleech: If the Mystic turns the Lleech good, the host can't die at night.
Riot: If the Mystic ability is active & the Riot nominates & executes an ally on day 2, they turn good that night.

    {
        "id": "mystic_the_academy",
        "image": [
            "https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/The_Academy\/mystic_the_academy.png",
            "https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/Academy_Alternate_Universe\/mystic_academy_alternate_universe.png"
        ],
        "otherNightReminder": "If a Demon nominated & executed their last living ally today, wake them to inform them that they're good.",
        "reminders": [
            "Mystified"
        ],
        "name": "Mystic ∇",
        "team": "townsfolk",
        "ability": "Demons who nominate, execute, & kill their last living ally become good tonight. They can't die at night, even if you're dead.",
        "flavor": "A little bit of well-placed fairy dust will solve all your problems, simple as that. We just don't have a way to get any... hmm, that's a problem.",
        "otherNight": 62.628,
        "jinxes": [
            {
                "id": "leviathan",
                "reason": "If the Mystic ability is active & the Leviathan nominates & executes an ally on day 4, they turn good that night."
            },
            {
                "id": "lleech",
                "reason": "If the Mystic turns the Lleech good, the host can't die at night."
            },
            {
                "id": "riot",
                "reason": "If the Mystic ability is active & the Riot nominates & executes an ally on day 2, they turn good that night."
            }
        ]
    },```

[drowsy pelican]

Holy moly

[arctic olive]

that's probably the correct reaction yeah

[dull scaffold]

good demon source

[dawn olive]

does the wielder have the ability during setup?
(relevant for baron/xaan)

[dawn olive]

feel like this should have a jinx with lleech to make the “cant die at night” apply to the host

[arctic olive]

Yes!! It's in the almanac

[arctic olive]

Ur so right, I'll do that

[glossy salmon]

xaan 4

[arctic olive]

Ty

[grim path]

What is The Arcanum?

[arctic olive]

It's Squ4ll's character collection. It's currently not out yet but I got permission to use the one character and post the script publicly

Which... I should get to that already actually

[brisk glen]

i gotta do an icon for it

but yall can have it as a little treat

[arctic olive]

I just used the temp icon for now

And made my own evil icon for it because news flash this is an alasa script

(just a simple edit)

[brisk glen]

Yeah this is fine

[arctic olive]

alright... here it is! the first Academy polyhybrid! presenting...

Some script notes off the top of my head:

• Vampire and Alasa mean that even the evil team doesn't know who's which alignment
• Legion and Worker can both create Truman Show scenarios where most players are in the know and trying to deceive the minority
• Evil players have multiple ways to turn good, but if the relevant Townsfolk don't exist then trying to turn good will backfire tremendously
• Misinformation is really sparse, being limited to just Sycophant and Doom Prophet (which shouldnt be making that much misinfo anyways)
• Most Minions can play for their own win condition, so they might not need to know whether or not they're the thrall. The Vampire needs to put a stop to this! (even a thrall Alasa will kill to help good, not evil)
• Townsfolk have plenty of reasons to back into new claims constantly. If nothing else, you've got a Damsel to cover for and an Alasa to bait

The Academy ∇

[brisk glen]

yippeee

[arctic olive]

https://tenor.com/view/autism-creature-vergil-judgement-cut-end-devil-may-cry-yippee-gif-16347918189446191665

i never thought that noble would be a spicy character ever but here we are

[dry lava]

turns the lleech good*?

[arctic olive]

yes 🤦

fixed

[arctic whale]

Also I just realized…

You can have Worker Legion together (but basically never should)

[arctic olive]

no no it's a thing that can happen

i absolutely would do it

[arctic whale]

Oh wait no, because Legion still won’t know to work with it, even if they hedge their bets

[arctic olive]

exactly

[arctic whale]

You do have to be way more precise with who you give Workers

Since there’s way less of them

[arctic olive]

for sure

[arctic whale]

Which also means Worker Legion requires an extra level of commitment

[arctic olive]

workers vs legion and a damsel in the middle of it all 🔥

[arctic whale]

You have to use the Workers to either pierce the stories of certain Legions or confirm a fellow Worker against the chorus. To try & win over the 3rd living Worker

(also it would be very sad to show a Worker a Minion during Legion when there’s so few of them)

Pls don’t do that most times

[arctic olive]

on the final night it's spicy tho 👀

[glossy salmon]

damsel legion is probably unfair on this script

[arctic olive]

why? no huntsman?

[dawn olive]

does vampire visionary even work?

visionary says “a good player” not “at least one good player”, so if the visionary themselves is good… wouldnt they be the only person who learns it?

[arctic whale]

it works on Alch Visionairy

[dawn olive]

ah

[fluid acorn]

its “you & a good player”, which implies its you and a separate good player who learns the question

[arctic olive]

^^^

Technically the thrall visionary could learn the question twice but just never do that

[shrewd sphinx]

also if Thrall Vis learning it stops another good player from learning it then good can hide the ping of an actual Vis to make them think they are a thrall

[arctic olive]

Ooh I didn't even think about that

I kinda like that tho

[past light]

hey so uh

this shit is insane

[arctic olive]

Thank you

[past light]

anyways it’s actually a crime thu’s script doesn’t have heretic

it looks awesome tho

[glossy salmon]

because with only 5 max damsel candidates (in a reversed-count 13+ player game with damsel replacing a legion), usually less, where legion can probably figure out what information is true and false, legion will be able to find the damsel very quickly and even if they fuck it up, depending on which legion made the guess it probably isnt that bad for them

[arctic olive]

I think it's less true than normal that legion can just figure these sorts of things out, but fair

[glossy salmon]

in a legion game, damsel cant realistically bluff

• noble
• duke
• trickster
• savant

damsel can maybe bluff but its weird

• surveyor
• courier
• fisherman
• legate
• mystic
• worker

damsel can safely bluff

• headsman
• farmer

[arctic olive]

Why not headsman???

[glossy salmon]

actually, fair

[arctic olive]

I think everything in the "maybe" category is reasonably bluffable

It's not like a real surveyor is gonna be open with their good pings very often

[arctic whale]

Also, a real Surveyor would get tons of arbitrary info in Legion

[glossy salmon]

if they pick a good player whose only neighbors are legion and claim anything other than legion or a minion they Just Lose

[dry lava]

tbf

[arctic whale]

Yeah but they’d still have to pick that

Also, other goods can lie

[dry lava]

a damsel would probably die quite quickly

[glossy salmon]

they'd fucking better

[arctic olive]

So the entire script concept is that good players should be lying

[arctic olive]

Yeah this too

[glossy salmon]

true lol

[dry lava]

and good is kinda expected to bluff so the damsel isn't found out immediately

[past light]

it’s MHD like

Damsel Legion can fuckign cope

also Heretic

[glossy salmon]

isnt on script

[past light]

it is when i get my filthy hands on it

[arctic olive]

Yeah and if this isn't happening then I don't think the players are super ready for it (and that's fine, this is super advanced)

[glossy salmon]

if it was damsel legion would be perfectly fine

[past light]

ONE MILLION HERETIC STOCKS

[arctic olive]

Yeah sure let's put a heretic on the script where most of the minions just wanna push their own wincon

Also these outsiders are loudddd

[glossy salmon]

this is fair but eventually they'll have to be truthful or they cant... actually solve the game

and if the damsel's alive at that point its joever

if you say "damsel will always die before that point" then a damsel who doesnt will know for sure its not legion (which isnt the end of the world cause like what are they gonna do about it lol)

[arctic olive]

Or you hide the Noble pings to make a minion think they're the thrall and bluff legate like your life depends on it to get them to out the demon

[past light]

hystrex hystrex hystrex

[arctic olive]

Like, there are alternatives (even if you're mostly right)

[past light]

these characters were BORN FOR HERETIC

they YEANR for the Heretic

[arctic olive]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-minor-spelling-mistake-i-win-minor-spelling-mistake-i-win-meme-shadow-the-hedgehog-shadow-gif-26138585

[past light]

i DOTN CARE!

[arctic olive]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-minor-spelling-mistake-i-win-minor-spelling-mistake-i-win-meme-shadow-the-hedgehog-shadow-gif-26138585

[arctic olive]

As someone who has won due to an intentional play from the damsel baiting a guess and winning via heretic, I think it's a garbage interaction

[glossy salmon]

i fully agree with this that it's much better than a "normal" legion-damsel script but please keep your eye on it

[arctic olive]

You could do mystic heretic tho that's kinda fire

[past light]

huh

my man isn’t this homescript

[glossy salmon]

in theory

[arctic olive]

Better not be (I'm coping)

[past light]

also it’s like what makes huntsman less ass

[glossy salmon]

(i dont like damsel mhd but whenever i say it in specspoilers someone aims a cannon at me)

[past light]

so the Minions don’t insta guess an Outed Damsel

[arctic olive]

Imagine damsel and huntsman have been on TT all this time and TPI has just been laughing at us

[glossy salmon]

FIRE

[past light]

idk people just aren’t ready for Heretic Damsel

in the same way i’m not ready for Wizard not being TT

[glossy salmon]

this is how i feel about goblin+heretic

[arctic olive]

No no I've won for it and it consisted of extremely intentional plays from experienced players and I would rather have lost the game

[arctic olive]

Yes this too

[arctic olive]

I want this tho

[past light]

can someone articulate the issue?

[arctic olive]

It just totally ruins the damsel dynamic

What's the point of a high stakes outsider whose whole ability is "hide at all costs" if they're gonna win for getting found

[past light]

consider that if a damsel puts the evil team just leaves the damsel alive until they determine if it’s heretic

[arctic olive]

It's also just. Not how balance works

[past light]

and then they just pull the rip cord

[arctic olive]

So in the example I'm thinking of the damsel was on the block

[past light]

consider that if a damsel is in play, the heretic is significantly less likely to be in play as well

[glossy salmon]

i mean im an advocate for not damselguessing unless you're gonna lose otherwise

[arctic olive]

That helps but also no

[glossy salmon]

(in other words, this example is what i would consider to be a skill issue)

[past light]

anyways i like this minion set without Heretic

but also

LMFAO??? WHAT ARE THESE MINIONS

they’re ALL alt win cons 😭

[arctic olive]

And also bhampire :3

They all go about being wincons in ways that I think distinguishes them from each other

[glossy salmon]

and they're awesome for that

[past light]

simulacrum wielder

when a SECOND VISIONARY PING!!

[sturdy shell]

Better than me
All my minions are just vizier alts in a trenchcoat

B)

[arctic olive]

Visionary is "you're doing this to try to win the game"
Goblin is "you're doing this to force good to counterplay it"
Shrike is like vortox where it usually won't actually happen
Alasa is only a baby wincon

[past light]

i really suck at loud and proud minions all mine are like OOH you’re POISONED a LITTLE BIT

[arctic olive]

I ran out of poison ideas it's so sad

[past light]

nah dog i’ve been playing with info reversal

[arctic olive]

All my droison characters are on Shadowed Intentions, I have yet to even find a character concept for the academy that directly involves droison in any way

[past light]

mainly because all my ideas for non GoS HB is like hold on

lemme find one

[brisk glen]

I have some info reversal ideas too

it's fun'

[past light]

“(??) Each day, you must publicly choose a player: a Minion, if chosen, may choose that your team loses that day.”

[glossy salmon]

||faughter uf nox||

[sly leaf]

Are Shrike and Wielder at least jinxed together so this can be canon

[arctic olive]

Why do we need a jinx

They're both on Howl, it's canon already

[sly leaf]

No but Wielder can never proc Shrike

The timings don't work

[arctic olive]

Just make one mid game :3

[shrewd sphinx]

I mean, it's still O-Mod?

[sly leaf]

Sure but like that's so sad when it could be jinxed to allow threading a hell of a needle

As of rn it's virgin loser Demon with ability +1 Outsider, but it could be sigma chad +1 and niche awesome wincon

I didn't like typing those words

[arctic olive]

That's why I put naiad and shrike together lol

[dawn olive]

add fuck jurgen leitner to the script so it gets fixed

[arctic olive]

After a little longer than I had intended, the Academy google drive is finally ready! This should have all the Academy-related things you could possibly need and more. Be sure to study up and take that practice exam, or you won't be ready for the final!

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1VYKN4irs8_XVF4qNBdRW-WpNRDAtG8Mg?usp=sharing

[arctic olive]

the probably biggest thing in here that's new is the pdf almanac

which i see no reason not to also post here

(it's just the bloodstar page pretty much)

((if anything is wrong with the drive in general or missing pls tell me))

[dry lava]

@arctic olive this question doesn't have a true answer

should I lie

or should I not hand this in?

I could copy and paste all answers in a dm so you get to know the answers without me having to lie

[serene egret]

yeah will this question be on the final

and are we still in the add/drop period because I won't be able to finish this one

[arctic olive]

You've answered it correctly

[arctic olive]

Just hand this one in

[arctic olive]

Sorryyyyyy it just ended

[dry lava]

but it includes a lie

because I don't swear that

[serene egret]

Sounds like our teacher is encouraging academic dishonesty

[arctic olive]

Do you want to pass or not

[serene egret]

😔 no matter which institution I attend

[dry lava]

Worst case I'll retake the course when there is a nicer examinee

examinator*

[arctic olive]

this course doesnt really change

[dry lava]

then I'm fine with failing it :p

Can I send you the other answers for fun tho?

[arctic olive]

you can lol

[vapid blaze]

hm, I thought the class roleplay was scheduled for 5...

[shrewd sphinx]

Just finished the quiz

I should've written more for the essay questions

[arctic olive]

Bake Dice 🔥

[serene egret]

I also jsut finished

and, now that I'm done with the test, I'm gonna stretch really loudly

I'll also take really heavy footfalls on my way out so as to disrupt the concentration of everyone still in the test

[shrewd sphinx]

I'm going to loudly talk to the teacher as I hand the teat

[arctic olive]

if i had an actual classroom i would put this on the wall

[serene egret]

hystrex reminds me of my 6th grade history teacher who put a sticky note on his water bottle and labeled it "children's tears"

[arctic olive]

wait that's so good tho

[arctic olive]

New jinx:
Mystic/Bistella: If a Mystic-turned Bistella dies by excecution, good wins.

To be implemented when I'm more awake

But yeah that one totally needs to exist

I could make it so Bistella says good wins but I feel like with every other iteration of good demons this is better

Oh I prob need a Majorix jinx too don't i

It gets the riot jinx

Escapod should be fine unjinxed tho

[arctic olive]

Might swap wraith for shrike

And change the script accordingly

Then I'll just say gtfo is also shrike's release script

I'd cut poli and prob SC

[serene egret]

what a script acronym

[arctic olive]

Yeah I mean that was the goal

[serene egret]

oh lol

[arctic olive]

"fly off" working well was a happy coincidence

[vapid cipher]

who here's actually done the practice test

[dull scaffold]

wraith denier 🔥

[arctic olive]

There's been a handful of responses though I should check them again

[dull scaffold]

out of curiosity, what kind of players do you playtest with?

the people i playtested with i could cumulatively describe as reckless clipfarmers & thrillseekers, so i started pivoting more towards super-experimental & absurd ideas that are enticing for casual players looking for something beyond this world

[arctic olive]

Actually none of these are playtested :3

I'm gonna try to run some of these with my irl group

Bistella is playtested by proxy of BSN

[dull scaffold]

thats a shame. if you ever do games online and need playtesters, let me know

my phone appears to not be working for auth, so ill just steal my dad's :P

[dull scaffold]

fairish, although i think its important distinctions to make that BSN added an extra evil demon, not replaced a minion with one

[arctic olive]

Oh yeah it's def different

But at its core I know it works

I'm confident that all of these "work" for various reasons

The biggest question mark is balance

Especially with Escapod bc the more I think about it the more I think 2 days might've been the right call

I still wanna test 3 days bc I don't wanna change it AND THEN retcon it

[dull scaffold]

fair, although in my opinion, i feel as thought fun and engagement value truimph over balance, since STs can do the job of balance through wrangling gamestate

[arctic olive]

Yes but changing the timer barely changes the actual dynamic

[dull scaffold]

true

[arctic olive]

It really is just a balance tweak in this case

[dull scaffold]

numbers and numbers, thats all we have to go on

its just a simple... numbers game...

https://tenor.com/view/juggle-juggling-ball-balls-scythe-gif-9993754426901773381

[dull scaffold]

speaking of which, out of curiosity @arctic olive, what kinds of characters do you like to pivot towards making?

[arctic olive]

Idrk

I feel most at home making minions

You can probably expect more widow-volume minions in the future (like sollos)

[dull scaffold]

i see

i like 'multi-super-archetype' stuff

[arctic whale]

anyof these you think would work in longtext?

[dull scaffold]

Grandmother, Xaan, Evil Twin, Godfather

[arctic whale]

Im not in any text queues currently & can run

[arctic olive]

👀

[dull scaffold]

i think all of these look good

[arctic olive]

Wait is Howl longtext a bad idea lol

[dull scaffold]

even howl honestly

[arctic whale]

Mainly Legion, methinks

[dull scaffold]

oh right it uses legion

actually kill anything that uses legion

and then you're set

[arctic whale]

Hmm... I might make a forum post for it in text channels

[arctic olive]

Right

[arctic whale]

and see if anyone directly has an opinion

[arctic olive]

Bean Spiller is less than ideal in longtext but it'll work fine, everything else looks good to me

[dull scaffold]

i debate against this, i think bean spiller would work well in longtext

evil communication gaming 🗣️

[arctic whale]

wait.

Gasp then Fly Off has Wraith 💀

[arctic olive]

I'm not really thinking about longtext when designing so stuff like alasa where part of the fun is outing evil as a good player might not be as good in longtext. But like it's fine

[arctic olive]

I'll put Shrike on it

[arctic olive]

It's not the same dynamic as huddling around a grim while trying to not make too much noise but also it's fine

[arctic whale]

So maybe 1 of Deadly Word, Double Elimination, Gasp fly Off, & Lying for Fun me thinks?

(mainoy cause if im gonna cut stuff anyways, why not Bean Spiller here?)

[gloomy onyx]

I mean as someone who just got out of a roundabout longtext, legion in longtext isnt actually terrible with the right group :P

[arctic olive]

Where is "here"

[arctic whale]

(im also not quite familiar with text Al-Had yet, so that & Bean Spiller are the obstacles in longtext)

[arctic olive]

I mean with bean spiller you just open up a thread with all the evil players and post the grim. And maybe put a word limit

[arctic whale]

Sometimes I do a soft poll for text games & usually limit to like 4 scripts

and i say soft because polls dont really fit into text often annyways

[arctic olive]

Ah got it

Longtext alhad works afaik

Others would know more tho

[gloomy onyx]

It worked fine the one time I played it in longtext

[arctic whale]

I believe it does. Im just not familair with the way its run

I think if I did have to choose, I'd wanna do GTFO (technically a legal abbrievation), DW, or LFF

Because Alasa, Escapod, and Doom Prophet seem more intersting to test than Bistella or Majorix, which have more solid heoretical principles

[arctic olive]

Makes sense

[arctic whale]

(assuming GFO has Wraith -> Shrike of course)

[arctic olive]

Do what you want ofc but my call is gtfo because I want a better idea of how Escapod balances

[arctic olive]

Yeah in my head it already does

[arctic whale]

Yea I like that idea too

any chance you could quickly whip up an image with Shrike on it? i might be able to with Klutzbanan too

[arctic olive]

I'm not home 😔

When I get there I can

[arctic whale]

Oke. I think I'll do GFO then, once all is set up

I'll also let you know if I somehow cobble up a KB image first

[arctic olive]

I still gotta figure out the other swaps actually

As a rule for myself i don't want the release scripts to have jinxes involving the characters there showcasing and poli is jinxed with shrike

[arctic whale]

Ok

[arctic whale]

At any rate, onc you have a version ready, I'll prepare for queue with it

[arctic olive]

how does this look

[dry lava]

not the biggest fan of balloonist, huntsman, shriek and xaan. thats a lot of outsider mod...

script seems pretty rough on evil, but they can hopefully make it out...

[arctic olive]

yeah it's alot of omod but hm doesnt count and i think it's fine for xaan to coexist with something like shrike. happy to cut balloonist tho

balloonist -> washerwoman??

gives the boffin more food

[dry lava]

but there is already a lot of character confirmation without much misinfo

[arctic olive]

thats true

[arctic olive]

also can you elaborate on why you say it's rough on evil

[arctic whale]

I think its the character confirmation & lower misinfo

(just a guess)

[dry lava]

there is only really 2 causes for misinfo on the script

xaan and puzzlemaster

[arctic olive]

that's entirely normal tho????????

confirmation is fair

[dry lava]

it's pretty rare

[arctic olive]

snv never has more than this at once

[dry lava]

at once isn't the issue

it's the possibilities it creates

[arctic olive]

well what would you add

im open to 5 minions they just need to all be good lol

[dry lava]

spy maybe? or widow? instead of boffin?

[arctic olive]

widow + escapod = poisoner

[dry lava]

well, with a lot of widow pings

[arctic olive]

not how widow works

[arctic whale]

thats not how it works iirc

theres only ever the 1 widow ping

[arctic olive]

i dont hate spy

but it would replace boffin

and it's dumb with snitch which i like here

[dry lava]

is there?

[arctic whale]

yea

widow doesnt send out new pings

[glossy salmon]

yes

[arctic olive]

yeah it's a constant "know"

forgetting isnt a botc mechanic, once they know they still know

[glossy salmon]

same with levi, if it gets swapped out and back in again you don’t reannounce

[dry lava]

well

it's still iffy whether or not you can send out new pings to other players

[arctic whale]

would sollos work?

[dry lava]

but i see the argument

[glossy salmon]

wdym

[dry lava]

1 player can know it

but for a new instance of widow

does it make 1 player know it

or does it make it so 1 player has to know it

since those are different

[arctic olive]

it would be fine but at that point i just use spy right? sollos and escapod arent exactly great at showcasing each other when one protects the demon's registration and the other changes who that demon is

[glossy salmon]

as long as one player who is currently good was told at some point that there is a widow, the condition is fulfilled

[dry lava]

1. can send new pings
2. can not send new pings

[arctic whale]

yea fair

(so snitch & Poli swap out 😭 )

[arctic olive]

yeah i guess

poli is gone and i dont particularly miss it tbh

i'll write up a spy version

[arctic whale]

Oh yeah, we're also Spy Damsel jinx gaming. But thats fine: its not with an HB character

[dry lava]

question: what is the basis behind this? I understand the argument, but do we actually have any sort of confirmation of it working like this?

spy damsel jinx is great!

[arctic olive]

yeah if you look through the release scripts there are quite a few jinxes, just no academy jinxes

[arctic whale]

It is. It is very fun :D

not as good as Widow IACOT tho

[arctic olive]

spy damsel is fine i have no problem with the jinx

i dont think it's like excellent but it's not something im ever really gonna avoid

[arctic whale]

tru

[glossy salmon]

i like the spy damsel jinx

[dry lava]

I think it makes damsel more interesting on timer demon scirpts

[glossy salmon]

socially it keeps the damsel dynamics intact bc they don’t know theres a spy

[arctic whale]

So yea

Wraith -> Shrike
Boffin -> Spy
Politician -> PM
Snitch -> Recluse

[dry lava]

cause it adds a decision "is it worth outing" to clear up any misinfo i might be causing

[arctic olive]

i could do, like, butler?????????

[dry lava]

very weak on timer demon?

[arctic olive]

oh true

[arctic whale]

uh...

[arctic olive]

outsiders are hard i need to make more of them

[arctic whale]

Recluse?

[arctic olive]

i guess it should go on the shrike release script shouldnt it

ok time to beef up town because i think the misinfo suite just overcorrected

[arctic whale]

Oh yea

[arctic olive]

which is like fine

im keeping exorcist tho solely because i think it's cool with escapod

[dry lava]

(#experimental-chat message this for anyone interested)

[arctic whale]

Respect. (actually recently had an oppotuinity to do it with an HBL script

[arctic olive]

seam -> artist is cursed but i might do it

evil can literally just escape an artist ping

unless it's alignment

but thats what spy is for

[dry lava]

"Did one of these 2 players start the game by seeing an evil token."

[arctic olive]

i would let the recluse misregister to that because otherwise it's just dumb

the recluse token is red anyways

if i can get away with no artist then i will but no promises

[dry lava]

why the change from seamstress?

[arctic olive]

it's incredibly weak now

recluse is whatever but pm xaan was already plenty to temper it. spy just bodies it

[dry lava]

not sure I agree but 🤷,

the seam can always try to find a night not with the same number of outsider claims they have, and just not choose a recluse claim.

[arctic olive]

with mutant and damsel???

im sorry but no

pain

[dull scaffold]

me when the -2 outsiders kicks in

[arctic olive]

cant tell if clockmaker (or chef for that matter) is a great fit or a blank token

wait clock invest

cant tell if chef is a great fit or a blank token

[arctic olive]

well... it's something

spy is so much

i accidentally made a town that doesnt crumble to poisoner but also i just dont want pois here

juggler could be dreamer instead idk

[arctic whale]

Any chance it can go back to Boffin over Spy? i cant remeber the exact reason it went to Spy, other than just nbeeding more misinfo

Because you could also have tons of misinof Outsiders + the Xaan &Boffin copying the misinfo Ousiders

[arctic olive]

yeah i think im reverting to boffin

[arctic whale]

Are any of the TF changing for the Boffin? (i assume the Outsiders are still there)

[arctic olive]

yeah im doing that now

im just also distracted lol

[arctic whale]

Fair. Dont let me pressure you lol

[arctic olive]

no no it was a good reminder lol

still could swap out juggler, the only thing tempering it is xaan really

which tbf might be enough

actually recluse interacts with like 2 things here i might just cut it

[arctic whale]

rip shrike recluse puns

well jokes

[arctic olive]

it's chef invest vi(no) surveyor(no) ft(meh) ut seam(no) juggler(no)

...and exorcist(DEFINITELY NOT)

recluse is just so avoidable here

[arctic whale]

Snitch is back 🥳

[arctic olive]

recluse shrike is ironically not an incredible interaction

it's not horrible

but it means that executing a recluse comes with a lot of baggage

which can be oppressive when the recluse's ability is to have an unknowable alignment

probably the finalized v2

wait savant can come back!!!

moll i promise you that xaan + pm is fine

this is a middling info town

and a hyper mobile demon

plus theres shrike damsel lol

ok uploaded to the drive

[arctic whale]

cool. thats the version i'll run in text

[vapid cipher]

if text hatter is anything to go by bean spiller would be pretty awesome in text

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1207483444788199455/1355710268033732669/image.png?ex=68a71a53&is=68a5c8d3&hm=d8b75c4b053506afd14b44fffb90e7b71047131872db25fe176b185b56c202c4&

[arctic olive]

Oh fire actually

[tame sparrow]

Everything cool, Hystrex? [EDIT: Screenshot deleted, as apparently I stumbled across the end of an ARG]

[untold kettle]

I can confirm that Hystrex is fine and there are no p̶̈́̌̿̀r̷̬̥̄̂o̴̍͒̐͠b̴̑͑̃̑l̵̀̓̍̚ë̶̈̍̏ms

[hoary flume]

what an interesting character

[arctic olive]

Oh you found it!!!

Yeah I put a mini ARG in this

And you solved it :D

That didn't even take all that long lol

Did you find the door or just skip to the end

[tame sparrow]

Unfortunately neither. I was just [REDACTED]. Sorry if I just spoiled the end of an ARG (EDIT: I'll delete what I found just in case).

[arctic olive]

No no it's fine

You didn't even post the whole thing

Also yes you did skip to the end, there's no other way to see that lol

[serene egret]

hystrex you can't do this to me now I want to go find your arg

could we reschedule the releases that have already happened to like early november ty

[arctic olive]

It's not a long arg

Poke around through the stuff I've uploaded and you'll find the door at the very least

[sturdy shell]

Me omw to re-run Against a God:

[arctic whale]

@arctic olive Uhh... I think the Escapod night order might be wrong here

(i assume Exo is supposed to go first)

or maybe it isnt, but like, current night order means it cant stop a jump

[arctic olive]

exo is supposed to go first

I was going to look into this and then simply forgot

On gtfo Escapod should be immediately after exorcist

[arctic whale]

Ok cool. I'll have to adjut the JSON

(not gonna post the night order in a way that implies Exo is useless 😭 )

[arctic whale]

@arctic olive does Gasp Then Fly Off have any reccomended Travellers?

[arctic olive]

No but I can think of some of you want

[arctic whale]

sure. i'd love the extra support

[arctic olive]

Hmm I'm gonna go with

• bureaucrat
• deviant
• judge
• cacklejack
• sorcerer

Thief would be fine too but I think I like bureaucrat better than it

Judge and CJ are just less bad than others lol

Killing travs are just more good sided 🤷

[glossy salmon]

cacklejack as a recommended trav is wild

[arctic olive]

It's whimsical

It's probably not actually good here

But I'm not gonna put a gnome on or anything

[glossy salmon]

its whimsical but recommended travs should probably be things that players are unlikely to be super strongly against

same with sorcerer ig

[arctic olive]

Lol just put in a bureaucrat ok

I think horde is prob a good replacement for CJ but I haven't worked out the details of that one yet

[sturdy shell]

Fly :trollface:

[novel wing]

gasp

[tame sparrow]

Played in my first Sollos game today. The misregistration element of the character felt just as if not more important than the Saint function.

[arctic olive]

Oh fun!!!!

Yeah they're supposed to be pretty equally important

[tame sparrow]

I don't think I appreciated that adequately when I first read the character.

[arctic olive]

Who got sollos'd

[tame sparrow]

It was John the Dowser in the image above

[arctic olive]

I gotta read up on some of these characters lol

Nice :D

Oh that's neat

[tame sparrow]

I believe that character is from "Keith from Cutlass Boardgames". It's been a reasonable each night information role so far, although the Sollos sitting next to the Bad Omen in the game above led to some peculiar readings in this week's game from that whole segment of town.

[fleet spindle]

-# FoR reference spotted /jk

[dawn olive]

whats the full script here?

[brisk glen]

Do you mean the academy?

It’s just characters

[grim path]

There are a few scripts that came out with some of the releases

[brisk glen]

Oh yeah he does that sometimes

@arctic olive wake up

[dawn olive]

script used in this game

[brisk glen]

Ohhhh

[grim path]

https://discord.com/channels/569683781800296501/1400149211743256638

[arctic olive]

No I'm too eepy

Yeah brew buffet is cool

It's not something I did much for, s.deignan just used Sollos in it (which is really cool! Always happy to see that kind of rep)

[glossy salmon]

leaked info on an upcoming character (real)

[arctic olive]

leaked, get it

[glossy salmon]

oh goddammit

[arctic olive]

The Academy ∇ (Scan Me)

new character coming soon 👀

[brisk glen]

holy shit I'm so excited for the Barcode

[arctic olive]

||you're incredibly close to correct||

there's a handful of characters in the oven, i think with these im gonna polish & release them one by one instead of getting them all ready at once and then releasing pretty much back to back

[glossy salmon]

it’s a qr code

[arctic olive]

QR Code (Minion): Some information is false.

you solved it

[glossy salmon]

so true

vortox if it was based

[iron cloak]

hystrex back on the grind 💪

[dry lava]

This, silksong (& maybe a life), how does one manage?

[vapid blaze]

Body doubles

[arctic olive]

Well you see I've been sick the past few days which means I don't need time to have a life currently

Though I'm fully expecting to be playing silksong right up until hades II releases and then pivot to that and not have any more free time until I'm done with it

[glossy salmon]

better get on that TE grind then bestie

[arctic olive]

TE?

[glossy salmon]

true ending

i need to stop abbreviating every single thing ever

[iron cloak]

Clearly it's Trip Edvisor 😎

[glossy salmon]

but typing on mobile is haaaaarddddd and i’ve definitely seen TE used before

[arctic olive]

Oh I'm on it dw

[arctic olive]

Yeah I just didn't think of it

[rotund raft]

Tight end. It's football Sunday after all.

[arctic olive]

Teacher's Essistant

[iron cloak]

Football?? in clocktower server?? booo

[glossy salmon]

the only sport we support here is ultimate frisbee

[iron cloak]

YEEEE

Ultimate Frisbee is goated

[glossy salmon]

hell yeah

i’m not great at it but i did it for 4 years so hopefully i’m at least decent

[rotund raft]

And American football no less! That's like, double shunned.

[iron cloak]

3 years for me and similar position 🙂‍↕️ it's just really fun and quite a tactical team sport

did you do both outdoor and indoor and if so which do you prefer

[glossy salmon]

just outdoor

indoor doesnt sound especially appealing to me

[iron cloak]

Indoor is SO Fun omg; smaller, faster, less/no wind, ahhh it's really cool for like constant active gameplay

Outdoor was more interetsing for like tactics and stuff

[glossy salmon]

idk the constant screaming creaking of shoes on the floor would probably kill me

outdoor has noise suppression

the wind is a good shout though

a windy game outside is always a silly goofy time though

[vapid cipher]

Twin Evil

[arctic olive]

character releasing soon unless i get distracted (so like a 50/50 shot tbh)

the almanac is finished it's the other stuff that i gotta do still

[arctic olive]

ok i won the coinflip character coming very soon

Barrkoad

(Demon): Each night, choose a player: they die. Every 2nd Townsfolk neighbor to your left yields reversed info. [Even Townsfolk count]*

“Black is White. White 1s Bl4ck. B14cK 15 WH!73 I5 8I@(K !S VV#Y+E !5 &/_@{I< ^Z VV//|||||[[Gonzales what h@ve you done.]]”

The Barrkoad reverses exactly half of town's info.

If a Townsfolk an even number of steps to the left of the Barrkoad (or an odd number of steps to their right) gets information, it is reversed. Anything that would be true is made false, and vice versa.

The Barrkoad does not affect information gained by other means, such as when the Storyteller explains the rules, or when a player’s character or alignment changes.

If a Barrkoad is in play at setup, there will be an even number of Townsfolk in play. This typically means an Outsider was either added or removed.

In the event that a Barrkoad is in play with an odd number of Townsfolk, the info reversal doesn't loop through the Barrkoad. Always count out every second Townsfolk from the Barrkoad's left, and stop once you hit the Barrkoad.

Examples

Ma'ayan is the Surveyor seated immediately to the left of the Barrkoad. Since they aren't an even number of Townsfolk to the Barrkoad's left, their information is unaffected. Coven the Seamstress is seated immediately to Ma'ayan's left, and chooses them and the Barrkoad. He learns a "yes", because his information is reversed.

The Barrkoad is in seat 1, seats 2 through 7 are filled with 3 Outsiders and 3 Minions, and seats 8 and 9 are both Townsfolk. Out of only the listed players, only seat 9's information is reversed.

---

How to Run

When preparing the bag, after all other modifications have been made, check to see if there is an odd number of Townsfolk (with no modifications, this is always true). If so, add or remove an Outsider from the bag, swapping it with a Townsfolk token.

On the first night, counting from the Barrkoad's left, mark every second Townsfolk with a REVERSED reminder. Skip over all Outsiders, Minions, Demons (except the Barrkoad), and Travelers when counting. Stop when you arrive back at the Barrkoad. If anyone's character type changes to or from Townsfolk, update the reminders accordingly.

When giving info to any Townsfolk with a Reversed reminder, their information is reversed. Anything that should be true is instead false, and anything that should be false is instead true.

Each night except the first, wake the Barrkoad. They point at any player. That player dies.

Jinxes

Banshee: If the Barrkoad is in play and the Demon kills the Banshee, the players still learn that the Banshee has died.
Spy: If the Spy registers as a Townsfolk to the Barrkoad, they must do so for the entire night & until dusk.

    {
        "id": "barrkoad_the_academy",
        "image": [
            "https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/The_Academy\/barrkoad_the_academy.png",
            "https:\/\/www.bloodstar.xyz\/p\/hystrex\/Academy_Alternate_Universe\/barrkoad_academy_alternate_universe.png"
        ],
        "otherNightReminder": "The Barrkoad points to a player. That player dies.",
        "reminders": [
            "Dead",
            "Reversed",
            "Reversed",
            "Reversed",
            "Reversed",
            "Reversed"
        ],
        "setup": true,
        "name": "Barrkoad ∇",
        "team": "demon",
        "ability": "Each night*, choose a player: they die. Every 2nd Townsfolk neighbor to your left yields reversed info. [Even Townsfolk count]",
        "flavor": "Black is White. White 1s Bl4ck. B14cK 15 WH!73 I5 8I@(K !S VV#Y+E !5 &\/_@{I< ^Z VV\/\/|||||[[Gonzales what h@ve you done.]]",
        "otherNight": 50.62831,
        "jinxes": [
            {
                "id": "banshee",
                "reason": "If the Barrkoad is in play and the Demon kills the Banshee, the players still learn that the Banshee has died."
            },
            {
                "id": "spy",
                "reason": "If the Spy registers as a Townsfolk to the Barrkoad, they must do so for the entire night & until dusk."
            }
        ]
    },```

The Academy ∇ (The Missile Knows Where It Isn't)

[brisk glen]

hey I made this clue!

and partially this character too I think

[iron cloak]

Oh very fun

Icon is cool too I like it

[arctic olive]

Yeah this was my running with something you scrapped lol

[dry lava]

The spy interaction 😭

[arctic olive]

Tyyy :) it's one of my favorites for sure

[arctic olive]

Yeah it was vile I had to keep at least a little bit of info intact

I didn't wanna ban the misreg entirely bc I don't (usually) hate fun

[dry lava]

I think the jinx should just be: "the spy cannot register as a townsfolk to the barrkoad"

[iron cloak]

Even number of Townsfolk is also a fun way to do outsider count

[arctic olive]

I mean I could

[dry lava]

My reasoning being: it keeps the barrkoad working as intended and spy is still super useful due to being able to misreg

Cause rn I can't see myself putting both on the same script

[iron cloak]

omg it took me too long to get the name 😭

[dry lava]

Because spy is likely so much stronger with the barrkoad than any other demon

[arctic olive]

That's fair actually

[past light]

HOLY SHIT THIS ISNT A TIMER DEMON? 😭

this shit cooks i’m afraid

[arctic olive]

Nah I made it kill

It felt wrong as a timer

[shrewd sphinx]

Wait, this without kills as a Minion would eat

This also eats

This is awesome

[arctic olive]

I almost made it a minion yeah

But then you need to account for it dying

It could say even if dead but at that point I'd just rather it be a demon

[dry lava]

it's also quite strong as a minion, (which is fine, but way harder to script build for)

[arctic olive]

What about if the spy misreg is always or never

Rather than being able to turn off each day

[tiny sluice]

Wait I saw this

Didn’t you discuss the looping problem with Xhorian

[arctic olive]

Yeah sounds right

I don't really make any effort to hide characters before release, I have no reason to

I'd rather get feedback on them and have them be better than have the perfect blind release yk

[drowsy pelican]

I beg

Reword it to say clockwise

😭

[dull scaffold]

feel ya. started doing that aswell

peeking at ur almanac and have some thoughts

[arctic olive]

Ya go for it

[arctic olive]

"every 2nd clockwise neighbor"?

Like normally I agree with clockwise over left but it just doesn't read in a way that makes sense imo

(I am playing silksong so if I don't respond that's why)

[dull scaffold]

Subtractor: I almost said this sucks, until I re-read and saw that its characters to players, not players to characters. Passable

Outsider #1: Could pose issues with the Outsider staying completely quiet as Luis mentioned very early in my character making hobby. When getting feedback and suggestions from friends, one idea that you can steal is that the Outsider thinks they're a Townsfolk until their false (or true, w/e) activation, which can occur even if dead but only once per game. Something like: Once per game, anything bad you say might happen, even if dead. Until then, you think you are a Townsfolk.

Minion #1: Looks good.

Minion #2: Weaker Boomdandy, even though it doesn't narrow the number of living players to 3, its still weaker Boomdandy. Additionally, -1 Outsider but without a way to find an Outsider bluff for itself makes reliant on having to mooch off one of the Demon's, which doesn't seem fun.

Barrkoad: Feels too overpowered to be realistically fun to combat, the -1 or +1 Outsider doesn't really help with this. I'd nerf this the reverse info part to: Every even-stepped neighbor yields reversed info if Townsfolk

Horde: All Hordes having the same alignment will make it super fucking difficult to exile them realistically, as they place their thumb on the vote counter. You can just do what I have with my Digital Hydra: You can travel in with 1 to 4 more of this character. You all neighbour each other.

Casino: Good & based.

[rancid trench]

yo that’s me
sick character too, did you make the icon yourself?

[arctic olive]

Yep!! I drew all the icons in this collection :D

[arctic olive]

Subtractor: yeah if it was players to characters it would suck lol
Outsider: I think making it a drunklike (well, snakebitelike) most likely has the wrong effect. Now EVERYONE has to watch what they say instead of just 1 player. I do see that problem and I want to find a fix, currently it's just the fact that the ability turns off when dead (that's not ideal tho)
Minion 1: yippee
Minion 2: what makes it weaker? It's almost silent and once it pops it hard punishes mistakes. Though now that I think about it it should have a vortox clause. Also it's a boomdandylike, it's fine with double claims
Horde: good point, maybe they just don't vote in exiles?
Casino: yippee

Oh I fully forgot to comment on barrkoad

If you solve your own truthiness and another player's truthiness then you probably find an evil

It's very vortoxy in that it'll mess up town but if they solve for it it'll collapse

Oh wait I need to move barkoad above the line don't i

Whoops I'll do that

Ok done

[tiny sluice]

Nuh uh

[arctic olive]

Reload

[dull scaffold]

boomdandy not only removes the remaining nights of info, it also puts the entire good team under pressure & stress due to the countdown, and makes actually using the information that X is boomdandy much harder

[dry lava]

Then you don't have even tf

[vapid cipher]

checkerboard misinfo

[steel fractal]

Vertical stripes, not checkerboard, right?

[serene egret]

this + pithag or ways to change the TF count is silly

[sly leaf]

Barkroad my goat

[arctic olive]

Yeah vertical stripes. It used to be checkerboard and then I realized that there just wasn't a point on a gameplay level (besides being incredibly amusing)

[arctic olive]

Oh for sure, though in most cases I don't think it's actually a good interaction

[arctic olive]

Wdym

[mint topaz]

If spy registers as a townsfolk, you then have an odd amount of townsfolk so all of them would be poisoned

[glossy salmon]

it doesn’t loop through the demon

[mint topaz]

Oh I can’t read apparently

I missed that line from the almanac

[arctic olive]

I mean it's not apparent from the ability text at all

[serene egret]

totally yeah

[glossy salmon]

it would be funny if you made it a constant “there are an even number of townsfolk” so when a pit hag makes a townsfolk you turn a townsfolk into a minion

[vapid cipher]

Active Barrkoad

[shrewd sphinx]

Me when I buy stuff:

[arctic olive]

This is funny enough that I'm gonna officially endorse it as an official rule

Optional rule "Active Barrkoad": If there is ever an odd number of Townsfolk in play with a Barrkoad, a player changes character to correct this.

It's usually a bad idea but I mean hey go wild

[glossy salmon]

hell yeah

[arctic whale]

You should call it "Hell's Barrkoad"

[arctic olive]

But then how am I supposed to say Active Bar||rkoad|| and have it look like Active Bar||on ||

[arctic whale]

https://tenor.com/view/one-tree-hill-mia-catalano-you-make-a-good-point-good-point-youre-right-gif-4637737295702767538

[dawn olive]

wait does this mean the spy gets a false grimoire

would every character have to be wrong in it or would it be fine if only one is

[arctic whale]

Wouldn’t be a problem right? The Spy still knows they are the Spy

[dawn olive]

it still kinda. neuters half of their ability

since they can't Not register as a townsfolk, their info would always be reversed

[arctic whale]

I mean I guess

You can’t give Minion pings when you want

But it doesn’t interfere with their grim seeing part in any negative way

[dawn olive]

wait it wouldn't? i thought it would

wouldnt the barrkoad reverse the grim seeing
since they're registering as a townsfolk and due to the jinx can't not register as a townsfolk to the barrkoad

and seeing the grim is info