The Name's Doctor. Plague Doctor.

[sage plover]

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A silly script that didn't originally have a Hermit on it... until it released and the Klutz slipped out of the script to make way for it.

On TNDPD, all three Demons are incredibly mobile, but have to face off with some of the most powerful Townsfolk in the game, like the Empath, Artist, and Village Idiot. The Minions produce different flavors of misinformation and the Boffin plays support, while the Outsiders cower in fear of a potential Fang Gu or (in the case of the non-Recluse ones) just having normal death come for them.

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[sage plover]

bumping

cere stronk

takeaways:

• boffin really does kinda just feel like widow lite, there's not really much for it to do
• artist feels AMAZING here
• cannibal slaps
• snake charmer would go insane here if it was in play big fan

[sage plover]

alright, thinking cap: what goes on to replace boffin here

why is boffin here?

• silent bluff acquisition in LM (widow 2)
• another explanation to discredit dreamers/savants/amnes/farmers besides widow
• another proc for PD (unique)
• another explanation for madness executions besides cere (cere 2)
• thing to give weird savant info about (unique?)

if SW wasn't on the script I'd strongly consider Pit-Hag

Boomdandy is something I was looking at? but i'm not a huuuuge fan of it with LM, it's just better than Goblin

I don't like the PD/Marionette jinx so that's never going on

Evil Twin seems genuinely interesting but again Scarlet Woman is here and I like that better

Mezepheles is insanely strong lol no

same with Poisoner

I already have Pixie/Mutant/Cere on script so don't really want Harpy

Summoner... no

[sage plover]

OG could be interesting

[low pelican]

Honestly baron could go hard here

Wouldn’t hate a snitch paired with it though.

[sage plover]

there's already a fang gu, not sure about Baron as well

[low pelican]

You have a hermit ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[woven abyss]

I think 4 minion is fine.
Maybe Xaan is fine

[low pelican]

I think it’s too mechanical for xaan

[junior viper]

sort

[sage plover]

it is sorted :)

[junior viper]

Hermit’s at bottom, it 100% isn’t

[low pelican]

it's sorted Alphabetically!

[sage plover]

standard paradox order

[junior viper]

?

[sage plover]

I think Hermit should be at the bottom of Outsider lines

[junior viper]

oh

[sage plover]

I've sorted it in a way which makes my brain happy instead of SAO

[junior viper]

that’s fine

[sage plover]

(also why amne's in the middle)

[sage plover]

thinking about the fifth minion on this script again

the only evil-sided source of droison is Widow but Widox/Xaan just feels brutal

the only reasons for info to be wrong here are Recluse (Hermit) and Widow, but with a town this strong I think Xaan might go on okay

Poisoner here... i mean town is really strong but this is also a Fang Gu script

and a LM script

I think I just have to run this more to see if this script is fine with Xaan

[sage plover]

we go organ grinder

[junior viper]

I fear FG SW

like

also LM SW

like a team of Widow/SW can just give the baby to the Hermit

[vestal folio]

lol

[low pelican]

Before i looked at the script again, i saw this and thought Flowergirl? Which made me temporarily concerned that axo had a stroke or smthg. lol (due to the OG suggestion)

[sage plover]

it's powerful, but good is absolutely stacked

[swift river]

rare axo L 😔

[sage plover]

kenoboi what other minion works here

[swift river]

also what’s with hermit SAO

[sage plover]

hermit goes at the bottom of the outsider line because it's an "all of the above" 😤😤

[swift river]

fair

i mean you can always do mario here instead

and don’t try to argue minion volume

because SW is here

with FG and LM might i add which is wild

[sage plover]

Marionette is ugly with jinxes

[swift river]

most of those jinxes are just like

technical corrections

things taken for granted

[sage plover]

Also PD/Marionette stinks and I personally hate it

[swift river]

also SC LM is uh

[swift river]

fun and whimsy hater

[sage plover]

it's fine I don't run alejo rule anyway

[swift river]

that’s not the issue

it’s way too mobile for SC

[sage plover]

i feel like the sc can get dunked on sometimes

[swift river]

i disagree ngl

with Imp FG and SW the SC already had a tough enough time

[sage plover]

FT just rolls this evil team and Flowergirl kinda stinks esp with organ grinder

[swift river]

add a hot potato chase element and

isn’t there a new FG OG jinx

[sage plover]

the jinx is that it got removed

[swift river]

ah

[sage plover]

and those two just are unjinxed

[swift river]

well maybe you don’t need a direct demon finder

you have artist dreamer slayer

ngl would harpy be decent here

[sage plover]

if i drop, like, empath/sc what goes on is the thing

[swift river]

there’s a lot of alignment stuff

i know harpy is not like a great minion

[sage plover]

tracking 4 forms of madness is ST hell, harpy's not going on

[swift river]

but it has its places

[swift river]

bah humbug

[swift river]

fish might be good here

helps find demon and can give nuanced info to an untraceable jump or starpass

[sage plover]

maybe but good has balloonist dreamer vi savant artist slayer (+canni) to solve mobile demons anyway

it's not a necessary niche I don't think

[swift river]

i mean yeah but SC also does that

so you’re replacing one with another

but sure

[sage plover]

-
+

cooking????

burning down?????

[sage plover]

seamstress cooks too hard actually hm

fuck it town crier

i'll be a hack

kitchen

[raw dawn]

general?

[sage plover]

not particularly interesting here i don't think?

[low pelican]

Ok I'm going to ask the question I always do when I see this character on a script: Axo, what's the vision with Amne here?

Is it basically a proxy for a hb role/niche you want to fill that isn't published yet?
Is it filler?
Is it just there as a confound for loud minions that isn't athiest?
Or is it true amne (like anything goes and game to game varies extremely)

[sage plover]

I'd be very worried if anyone used amne as any of those first three things

Well, filler amne is reasonable if boring

But this script is high info and Amne slots in perfectly with characters like VI, Dreamer, Savant, Cannibal, Cerenovus, and Widow

like all of those characters I mentioned are also on Catfishing which is effectively Amnesiac's home script

Give the amne an ability that learns something, ideally, but a public, power, or passive amne wouldn't be too out of place here either

[sage plover]

Okay, this script definitely needs more droison but Xaan is absolutely too strong

And I don’t want a Drunk because FG/Drunk is kinda icky

The ideal is PM but PM with all of these demons sucks ass, especially in LM

[hushed edge]

VI spotted on latest Canadian Catfishing version

[woven abyss]

Maybe NWM for xaan checker?

[sage plover]

Fuck you’re right I need to suck it up and do hermit —> drunk

[junior viper]

do recluse -> puzzlemaster and turn hermit into jurgen leitner

[sage plover]

puzzlemaster with these demons

[junior viper]

I don't get PM-Imp or PM-LM

[sage plover]

the demon can move if the PM guesses right

[hushed edge]

imp/fg are fine, lm is rough

but lm is dependent on the script's other demons

imp/fg/lm as a demon suite is probably the far ceiling of "PM balanced as an outsider and not an uberfibbin"

[sage plover]

wdym puzzlemaster’s awesome on my dashii lm LoT script

[hushed edge]

*dashii lm lleech

[sage plover]

also this is anecdotal but PM becomes significantly harsher on SW scripts and this script has one of those

because you can’t just kill the name to get to eliminate the world where you guessed right

[hushed edge]

eh "executed good player" and "executed demon with a scarlet" are distinguishable categories

every game I've been involved with where the pm hit right and the game continued from a scarlet it was very obvious that had happened

[sage plover]

how many of those were on cc, a script where the demon is relatively more socially outed than on most other scripts because kazali socials

[hushed edge]

but yeah overall the level of demon mobility is a lot

just script fg drunk you know you want to

[hushed edge]

-# 100%

[sage plover]

there it is

[sage plover]

I mean I do but also I kinda want the hermit here

And hermit drunk is never real

on this script anyway

[junior viper]

hermit drunk is incredibly real, that's the problem

[hushed edge]

it doesn't happen on other scripts because other scripts have actual misinfo and not whatever the fuck cc's info landscape is doing that makes a quarter of puzzledrunks hardsolvable

[sage plover]

anyway wincon uncertainty as a substitute for actual droison is surely a decision that has zero ramifications on the rest of the script and how it plays

[hushed edge]

hmm this sounds like a problem solvable by not having a hermit

[sage plover]

(and totally totally works guys trust)

god why am I considering pithag again

welcome back catfishing

[candid mulch]

PM goes hard

skissue if you can’t tell you’ve executed the demon

you need more non widow misinfo otherwise widow ping is an almost mandatory evil
bluff

[low pelican]

what's the problem with sweetheart?

[sage plover]

doesn't solve the problem

1. Plague Doctor already is a Sweetheart in the form of PD-Widow
2. Sweetheart has to die to do anything, meaning it doesn't disrupt anything N1 and doesn't disrupt anything unless one actually exists

[sage plover]

it's time to script fang gu drunk

[junior viper]

😭 wasn’t this a hermit script

[hushed edge]

drunk was replacing hermit that was the whole idea

[junior viper]

also sw lm is cringe

why is skill issue a buzzsaw

[hushed edge]

'skil' is a brand of power tools

[sage plover]

well yeah and the hermit didn't work

[junior viper]

hi pebbles

[frank parrot]

Hi

[junior viper]

SW also feels wierd here with witch cerenovus og

and also kinda widow

[hushed edge]

cc has 3 out of 4 of those minions and no minion mod and it works

this script has minion mod

volume is a spectrum within roles not just between them

(technically cc has minion mod but like, not in the relevant sense)

[junior viper]

that’s fair

[low pelican]

Kazali just picks the same person twice?

[hushed edge]

Joke that Kazali itself is minion mod

[low pelican]

Yeah + SW - GF

[candid mulch]

kazali picks themselves

[royal plume]

And turning into an Evil Twin

[sage plover]

-Mayor
+Magician

Being the Mayor was kind of miserable here? It was better with Hermit, because you couldn't be the Drunk — and while Balloonist and Dreamer (and Savant/Artist/Amne) can check for a Drunk token on you, I still thought it was a little sad? There are quite a few bags where the Mayor will just not be able to find that they're the Drunk and lose in very upsetting fashion to it.

I think the LM jinx with Magician is pretty fun here, and Magician specifically hurts Fang Gu teams most, since they have no built-in counterplay to it (Imp teams can starpass and LM teams know their team fully), which I think is incredibly interesting on a script which seems to favor the Gu a bit.

[hushed edge]

You finally found a replacement 👀

Magician is cool here I like it

[raw dawn]

magician goes on every script until morale improves

[hushed edge]

@ebon fable here's the new version of the script!

for your trilogy

[ebon fable]

Yaaaaassss

[ebon fable]

Boop