You got this Town! v0.2

[wanton gate]

Looking to create a script in which there is a few opportunities for poisoning while frontloading as much of the info as possible.

After consulting @sudden light @heavy leaf and @glacial plume I am planning on swapping the vortox for the leech and mutant for the tinker.

I would love to hear thoughts on edits before I test it out with players and if it interests anybody in being my guinea pigs for play-testing?

[warm quiver]

This is certainly frontloaded info

Why Yagga? It and Grandmother are the only sources of extra deaths

I’d just shift it to 1 kpn

[wanton gate]

Yagga is mainly just me loving that demon and struggling to find demons that I think wouldn’t fundamentally change how the script is perceived on a player end while also letting demons do their thing. I considered pukka but felt that would be minimizing the ongoing poison the pukka has and make it less fun to get as a player.

This script altering demon effect is why I’m considering putting leech in instead of vortox. I’m realizing it might be to much of a focus or concern just by being on the script.

I also agree 1kpn should be the ideal but that can be countered with Yagga being a “might” role.

[warm quiver]

The issue there is that means Yaggababble is just a vanilla demon who also needs to say a phrase daily

The whole point of Yagg is that it is a multi-kill demon

[wanton gate]

I would expect the Yagga to avoid saying it more than once a day. I would certainly reward them saying it two MAYBE even three times but the risk they run with that is revealing the demon they are definitively as if there are two kills that are confirmed as NOT the grandmother activating town will know yagga is in play.

[warm quiver]

The issue is that outing the demon type is never really going to be worth the extra kills. The majority of your misinfo is coming from ND/Lleech and with those being confirmed not in play all you have is drunk

[wanton gate]

I would like to add some more means of death if I were to keep it but I’m struggling to find 4 demons I love for this script. I think Imp and No Dashii are exactly what I want the other two are just kind of best guesses.

[warm quiver]

You don’t need 4

[wanton gate]

I don’t, but I’d like to keep it in that status quo if I can.

[warm quiver]

I mean it isn’t really the status quo in the custom script world but I absolutely see your point

Hmmm

Let me find a list

[wanton gate]

That’s fair. I would also LOVE Lil monsta but it causes to many problems with this info lol

[warm quiver]

Yeah Lil Monsta is cool

Unrelated but I would also cut grandmother if you can

It’s going to be near impossible for evil to fake in any scenario

[wanton gate]

The main idea is centered around YSK roles. I would be compromising the spirit of the script if I cut them lol. there are only 11 by my count. Hence the alsahir and juggler.

[wanton gate]

I could throw a spy in to make that a valid bluff but I’m not to worried about evil wanting to bluff specifically the grandmother.

[warm quiver]

Ok

[wanton gate]

I also enjoy the current minion lineup too.

Ooo should I throw shabaloth in there?

Somehow missed that it could refresh YSK abilities.

[warm quiver]

I would say Shab is the same problem as Yag

But if you are sticking with grandmother

You might want a demon that can frame them

[wanton gate]

What do you mean by framing the grandmother?

[warm quiver]

Well the issue with grandmother here

Is that it’s impossible for a grandmother who tells their grandchild their role to be good

And if you do remove Yag like I’d suggested

If it’s grandchild dies it is 100% confirmed good

Which is rough

[wanton gate]

Hmm, I see your point but I don’t hate it in a vacuum. Kinda like a less helpful virgin in that regard?

[warm quiver]

It kinda is you’re right

It does lack a fail case

But it can work

[wanton gate]

I think I like Imp, No Dashii, and Leech

I’m considering Leviathan and Ojo for that last slot.

[wanton gate]

Drunk/Marionette as well.

[warm quiver]

Those are good demons

[wanton gate]

ND poison and leech host would also do it, no?

[warm quiver]

Ojo works best I believe

Leviathan is weirdddd on this

[wanton gate]

I was leaning towards Ojo myself.

[warm quiver]

Ojo is actually the best source of multiple kpn here

If you’re sticking with Grandmother

[wanton gate]

Though leviathan could emphasize the talking and being careful with executions until everyone has all the info.

[warm quiver]

I think these characters will just lose in a Levi game

2 kills isn’t enough at all

Usually in a Levi game there’s powerful info to make up for the lack of executions

This of course doesn’t have that

[wanton gate]

I think it’s more a matter of elimination in this. There is a lot of confirmation on non evil roles that will help weed out evil candidates instead of point at specific evils.

There is still Investigator and bounty to mitigate that though.

[warm quiver]

Yeah but it still doesn’t really work out

Those can be poisoned

Good has no real info to solve goblin either

Except investigator

That is actually an issue

[wanton gate]

I want goblin to be a leap of faith for them.

That’s one I definitely want player feedback on and think goblin has that script defining nature I was hoping to avoid but I want to see if that second guessing gets read as a fun leap of faith by players or if it is grating.

[warm quiver]

I’d strongly advise against that. It’s deeply unsatisfying as a good player to have two players claiming goblin and having no real way to differentiate the two

A leap of faith isn’t fun for most people

[wanton gate]

Fair enough. What would you recommend instead?

Would widow be a good replacement?

[warm quiver]

Spy would be better than widow I think

It’s really hard to tell without playtesting though

I’ve never seen or done anything like this so I can’t really know

[wanton gate]

I’ll go with Widow and we can switch if we need to after player feedback.

I’ll get v0.2 out tomorrow. I expected to go to bed after I posted this but love the feedback and extra head behind the refining process.

[warm quiver]

Yup always happy to help

[heavy leaf]

ill play in this when you run

[wanton gate]

You got this Town! v0.2

I am still torn over the mutant vs. the tinker. I like that the mutant would be muddling the waters on the info. Thoughts?

[glacial plume]

mutant doesn't actually function as that much of an outsider here because it either hard confirms itself as an outsider (which is pretty powerful given the town you have currently) or it just outs itself without being executed

with that said i'm not sure the script has enough deathmod for tinker to be super necessary

[wanton gate]

I really just want as many people claiming townsfolk as possible with drunk, marionette, mutant, etc. I threw lunatic in there for as much doubt in what your role is as possible