Lizards!

[red oracle]

It's Lizards (post edited appropriately)
The following rules are in play.
If you are interested please DM me your choice of Town, Outsider, Minion, and Demon. I'll alter things appropriately!
Please message and ping me here because new messages sometimes don't go through.

Lizards doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o2aJbLEToN041s86XGijQ6mQ522kjBT3Jxap5DTOV6c/edit?usp=sharing

Things allowed: Base 3+experimental+travelers+fabled
Things not allowed: , anything I can't think of anything to do (I'll let you know)

Please also let me know of any player issues you may have so I can avoid having games with those ty

I'd also like an army of kibitzers to check my work, and I am putting a gardener in play in case it's needed

[cobalt crane]

im interested in any and all of these 👀

but if i had to vote, id probably say 2

[red oracle]

Noted

[pulsar robin]

I’m up for 1 or 2

[lilac spade]

Aw man I'm not invited:C

[burnt crescent]

I’m already gonna be running the first one very soon, so might make more sense to run Lizards so it doesn’t clash. Up to you though, more Wizard chaos could be fun

[red oracle]

Specifically for all amne - you can join either of the other options

[red oracle]

Noted - I think I may not be running wizards yet (and watch you suffer first)

[burnt crescent]

You call it suffering, I call it

Uh

Hm

[red oracle]

Testing 😛

[open aspen]

All would be fun but in order: 1/2/3 😄

Making it easy for you (for now 😉 )

[red oracle]

I think atm I’m looking at lizards- let me finish out my game and I’ll set up rsvp later

[raw osprey]

Interested if your running 2!

[red oracle]

Lizards!

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[open aspen]

What exactly is lizards? We build the script essentially?

[red oracle]

Does anyone happen to have the lizards doc?

[chilly iron]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o2aJbLEToN041s86XGijQ6mQ522kjBT3Jxap5DTOV6c/edit?usp=sharing

[red oracle]

So long story short: You send me roles that I'll edit say for sake of example: Town , Outsider , minion , demon . I set up a grim that's more or less just alignment. When you sit down you get whetever you would get for that alignment (baring stuff that alters outsider count/other setup) and if you sit in a 'town' seat you might get Town "If you claim goblin in your defense, and nothing else, you learn if the person you nominated claimed their character to you tonight". If you instead get outsider seat you might get Outsider "The demon cannot die while you live". If you get minion you might get "You cannot be executed", and demon might get "Each night someone you whispered today dies".

Obviously the real stuff would be different

[red oracle]

TY

[radiant token]

Gave +1 Thanks to @chilly iron (current: #662 - 45)

[red oracle]

Interested list so far:
@pulsar robin ( ✅ )
@open aspen ( ✅ )
@raw osprey ( ✅ )
@chilly iron ( ✅ )
@..meowp.. ( ✅ )
@warped halo ( ✅ ) + Waffles backpack
@worldly yarrow ( ✅ )
@limpid lark ( ✅ )
@unreal finch ( ✅ )
@alpine shoal ( ✅ )
@mild halo ( ✅ )
@royal ridge ( ✅ )
@lunar valley ( ✅ ) + moo backpack
@limber flare ( ✅ )
@brave yew ( ✅ )

Kibitz:
@long sierra
@velvet canopy
@thin cape
@rancid barn
@onyx plume
@bold crypt
@whole idol
@orchid berry
@clear prairie
@lunar valley
@lucid sand
@cobalt crane

[chilly iron]

Im so down to play

just need to think of picks

[open aspen]

Do you just want a dm with picks?

[pulsar robin]

how are the picks :3

[lilac spade]

oh im so in for lizards but when is this starting?

oh nvm i have my answer

im blind heh

[red oracle]

27th of febuary

[lilac spade]

I'll join 😄

[warped halo]

Can I join

🙂

[red oracle]

Send picks and any player concerns

[warped halo]

Allr

[crystal dirge]

Kib me please

[long sierra]

kibitz please

[velvet canopy]

Can I kib?

[red oracle]

Does anyone know a sane way to get the role images that aren't in bloodstar (I.E. most of the experimental stuff) so I can just ... drop them in there... I'm just getting ugly blobs

[pulsar robin]

completely turn off restyling image

[red oracle]

?

Where

[pulsar robin]

if you don't like the offset then

[red oracle]

Ok ... but now it's the wrong olor

oh well at least it ... looks right even if wrong color

[long sierra]

that's because you're using a pre-colored image

[thin cape]

Can’t play but would love to join kibitz

[red oracle]

@worldly yarrow send picks

@worldly yarrow link here https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o2aJbLEToN041s86XGijQ6mQ522kjBT3Jxap5DTOV6c/edit?usp=sharing

[worldly yarrow]

What is base 4?

[rancid barn]

Base 3 (TB/BMR/SnV) + Experimental characters

[red oracle]

And in this case fabled/Travelers

[rancid barn]

I'd like to kibitz

[rancid barn]

This too

[worldly yarrow]

So it is always a character plus a character type different to it's original character type?

[rancid barn]

It doesn't have to be different

[worldly yarrow]

Message sent

Via private message - if you need something different let me know

[red oracle]

Atm I'm going through and making sure I can think of at least something interesting for all the picks. I don't want to accept a pick and then go 'oh shit I can't do anything with -bla-"

But that's why I'm 'checking' the picks asap. With the idea that if I have at least one idea I can potentially work with, I'm good with the pick

I'm sadly not likely to be able to do the other people tonigh 😦

Also I now cannot figure out how to get tokens appropriately colored so... they are the colors they are

I much prefer that over 'blobs' any day of the week

[worldly yarrow]

Is the game planned for today or a later date?

[red oracle]

2-27

[worldly yarrow]

Will reminders and such be sent out? I think that this can be done via a bot

[red oracle]

Yeah ... I don't think anyone would be crazy enough to do that same day

[red oracle]

I'll make sure to send a message 2-3 days prior to game time to confirm everyone is still available. This is part of the reason I don't really want to do this via carat, because I don't really want to need to suddenly look for a player if I suddenly drop down to 8 when I could have had someone else ready to go

[onyx plume]

/kibitz?

[limpid lark]

I like this idea

[red oracle]

Send me picks

[limpid lark]

I won't message you in dms about stuff because I don't feel comfortable doing that

[red oracle]

Give me a sec

[lilac spade]

I'll send my stuff asap, just have a ton of assignments and stuff lined up 😭

the seas will be calm for me in 4 days

until then I have like 50% total worth of classes due in the next 4 days 🥴

[red oracle]

Don't worry this is taking ... a while to go through

[bold crypt]

@red oracle prekib please! also happy to try help with roles stuff

[whole idol]

@red oracle Would love kib, I’ve been enjoying helping with your experimentals so I’m happy to help with roles if you need

[red oracle]

Wanna join?

[whole idol]

Probably not sadly

[red oracle]

Kib it is

[velvet canopy]

@red oracle i think my kib request got missed, could I get in there?

[red oracle]

Kib request 3/8

Between moo and artemis

[orchid berry]

Pre-Kibitz? I tend to like helping with designing lizard roles

[red oracle]

I am starting to get a little worried I have more pre-kibs than players but sure

[long sierra]

it's a lizards game, it's not that surprising

[red oracle]

Ok

[red oracle]

.

[pulsar robin]

.

[lilac spade]

Ill send u picks today's soon

[unreal finch]

I'd be down for playing, this sounds wild

I'll have a think about picks and send you some at some point

[alpine shoal]

@red oracle you hostign a fun game again?

feb 27?

lemme chekc my game limti real quick 👀

naaah i hthink im fine to join

[red oracle]

@lilac spade Do you by any idea know why this isn’t work… I think I see it

I see it… but I can’t fix it

Discord is for some reason deciding the _ in your username is a stylization guide

Because _ there are two _

[open aspen]

You can go "\" then the character

Oops

\

Backslash

[red oracle]

but I don’t know that’ll fix it because \ isn’t in the user name (will try though)

[open aspen]

So __text__

[cobalt crane]

the problem is the underscores which are making it italicized

[open aspen]

(That was \_\_text\_\_)

[cobalt crane]

backslash escapes the character

[red oracle]

Yeah but now discord doesn’t recognize the user name there

[cobalt crane]

hrm

[open aspen]

Oh I see

[cobalt crane]

pain

[red oracle]

(Which is actually \_\_text\_\_)

[alpine shoal]

@red oracle i dmed you my choies though

[open aspen]

exactly I had to do triple backslash lol

[red oracle]

Yes I have received them but haven’t put any thought into what to do with them yet, they are not ‘checked’ (I want to make sure I have at least some idea of what I want to do with the picks)

Btw I can’t post it yet - but I think I may have a sea shanty for ya’ll after the game

I may or may not have started one with someone’s picks…

[lilac spade]

you have to re-enter it every time im so sorry

or u can just leave it like that

i will send u my choices now (as in 20 minutes after I decide)

[lilac spade]

as in re-create the ping I think

if u want u can just type "Linh" 💀

[lilac spade]

I take it back I'm swamped

[red oracle]

Take your time

[lilac spade]

Tysm 😭

[next sky]

try <@user id>?

[clear prairie]

@red oracle kib?

[lucid sand]

what is a lizard

[cobalt crane]

🦎

[red oracle]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1o2aJbLEToN041s86XGijQ6mQ522kjBT3Jxap5DTOV6c/edit?usp=sharing

[alpine shoal]

its a fun game where you can become for example an good pithag or an evil chef
all you have to do is DM the ST 4 picks (tf/outsider/minion/demon) and a charater for them
you'll then get a mutation of that charater for whatever charater type you rolled so fo rexmaple if you choose spy for outsider and roll otusider your abiliy could be something lke: all evils start seeing the grim

[lucid sand]

i might be able to play

sounds fun

[red oracle]

Send me picks when able

[alpine shoal]

its fun to firgure out other poepls abilitys and tryign to determine how they help each team

and ofc you have evisl bluffing amazing things

[lunar valley]

omg paccc kib me

[mild halo]

Ill be a lizard

@red oracle

[red oracle]

Send me picks when ready

[red oracle]

.

[lilac spade]

.

[alpine shoal]

.

oh no he cheked off my nae 👀

my ability's are locked in 👀

[red oracle]

To clarify: the checks just mean that I’m ok with what you sent, I still have plenty of time for edits

(But would like final entries by 20th)

@lucid sand you did want to join yes? Still do not have picks from you

[lucid sand]

i dont think il join but il kib

[alpine shoal]

ah ok but still existed ro what i get

am existed for what you can make of my TF pick specifically though 😄

[cobalt crane]

@red oracle unfortunately im gonna have to drop out from this 🥲

[red oracle]

Move to kib?

[cobalt crane]

yeeee

[royal ridge]

Can I join?

I don't know if it's open still

[limpid lark]

I think it is if final entries are wanted by the 20th

[red oracle]

Yes it is open - final entries are by 20th

[red oracle]

Send me picks when you can

[crystal dirge]

@lunar valley do it

[lunar valley]

omg should i

[crystal dirge]

yes

[red oracle]

You can - $10 says there will be another drop anyow

[lunar valley]

are you playing or can i force you to backpack me lmao

[crystal dirge]

you can force me to back pack if ST allows it. I didn't join

[lunar valley]

okkk

[lunar valley]

count me in :))

[red oracle]

ST allows backpackers as long as they are not in kib

[crystal dirge]

dope

[red oracle]

Send me picks when ready

[lilac spade]

ok im down to 2 games I can definitely join

[red oracle]

D you want me to take you out of pre-kib?

[crystal dirge]

yes please

I forgot I pre-kibbed sorry

[royal ridge]

Picks sent @red oracle : D

[limber flare]

if you have room for another I'll happily join 🥹

[red oracle]

Sure

[red oracle]

Send picks when ready

[limber flare]

sent 🎉

[royal ridge]

As long as ST approves I'm open to backpacks as well

[warped halo]

oooo me too i want a friend

[alpine shoal]

@crystal dirge is good backpack 😄

was backapck in last game form pac when i was a little sick (almost reocvered fully) when i was feelign well at arround d1 orso i could take over and play a ncie game balkapcks are rgeat way and moo is a greta one

[lunar valley]

i know!! we have played together a lot, she is actually the best lol

[alpine shoal]

she was there when i needed her and went away when i ddint ned her anymore an dthen gladly accepted kibitz this epxierence was very nice knowing that if i couldn tplay she coudl play an dif i coudl she coudl just go away

[red oracle]

Moo was peace sickness prevention program.

[warped halo]

so how do i get an amigo(backpack)

[lunar valley]

ping someone you’ve played with before/one of your friends and offer them a spot, or someone might come in during the game and ask for kib/backpack and you can pick them up there

[warped halo]

@reef wigeon be my amigo, amigo

[reef wigeon]

I almost asked if I could be your backpacker this game :3

[warped halo]

omg yes

lets do it

[royal ridge]

I'm excited

[unreal finch]

So am I, I made some wild choices

[chilly iron]

Sames

Can't wait

[red oracle]

@pulsar robin @open aspen @raw osprey @chilly iron @lilac spade @warped halo @worldly yarrow @limpid lark @unreal finch @alpine shoal @mild halo @royal ridge @lunar valley @crystal dirge @limber flare just as a quick reminder: picks are going to be locked in on 2/20.
If any of you want to make changes, please do so by then

Oops sorry moo

[lunar valley]

moo can choose too its ok

[mild halo]

I may or may not be able to play, put me on hold for a bit

[reef wigeon]

Can I choose then too?

[crystal dirge]

No worries I'll send picks for John if you want

Just tell me what he sent and I'll send the opposite

Really give options lol

[reef wigeon]

Send “lunatic, marionette, drunk and bootlegger”

Wait is this b3 lizards or fish bucket lizards?

Ok it’s fishbucket

[red oracle]

I’m going to say no to backpackers sending in picks to prevent confusion…

[reef wigeon]

I was joking :3

[crystal dirge]

Valid

[red oracle]

Hard to tell in text if you are joking or not sorry

[reef wigeon]

Normally I use :3 or :P to indicate I'm not being fully serious I just forgot to for that message :P

[warped halo]

Oh….

Wait are you joking about sending in picks or backpacking-

[reef wigeon]

Jaguar who would I even be sending picks for

[warped halo]

Idk

[reef wigeon]

I was joking about sending picks in

[warped halo]

I read that as u joking about backpacking

Myb

Waffles wanna collaborate about picks

[reef wigeon]

I do really want to hear your picks for this

[warped halo]

Allr I’ll dm u

[lilac spade]

@south oar backpack? ( @red oracle )

[alpine shoal]

naaaah im fine with my picks

[red oracle]

So how I’m electing to do this is I’m rolling 2 grims, one with and one without you. If you are able to play, great, otherwise I’ll play with 13

[mild halo]

Ok

[limpid lark]

I also might not be able to play

[lilac spade]

;-;

[reef wigeon]

;-;

[lilac spade]

;#;

Maybe i should've used the inequality sign

Rip too late

[red oracle]

I ... may want to hold off until I know how many are actually playing u_u

[crystal dirge]

sadge

[alpine shoal]

nooo i wqant to play this so badly now

eh 12 player game is fine

[red oracle]

12 is perfectly fine

but I'm not rolling 4 bags for contigincy

I'm ok with tracking 2 possible states, not 4

[alpine shoal]

12 has that ncie 2/2 ration that just fits very well

[red oracle]

The storyteller would like to quickly mention that many tokens are mis-colored.
The storyteller would rather the tokens be mis-colored then mis-shapen horible blobs (I think I already mentioned this)

[lilac spade]

heh

[bold crypt]

.live i think now has the functionality to create opposite coloured version of roles

[red oracle]

It only works if I have 'restylize' on... which causes the roles to be blobs

[bold crypt]

oh right, it wont be the base roles

ye ignore me lol

[alpine shoal]

oh yeah .live has that option to recolor the tookens to be good shabaloth or evil inkeeper

[limpid lark]

I am (very likely) able to play, just have 1 or 2 days left in a few games, just said this in the off chance a game doesn't finish

[red oracle]

Noted

I still have all my abilities set up for giggles

[mild halo]

Also clock hands

[red oracle]

Listen I'd rather have every ability at least outlined in case I need it, and not, then not have them there and need them

On a side note who wants to run 'the lizards we could have been' next? (This is a joke)

[lunar valley]

ngl....

[mild halo]

Ill probably be able to after you run yours

[red oracle]

Huh?

[lunar valley]

@ the last part of this message (signifying interest lmao)

[red oracle]

So there's an ... issue with that. Well actually there are a few reasons why this isn't actually possible

[lunar valley]

idk enough about lizards to know why 😦

[limpid lark]

Using the roles exact same powers, except the ones that weren't used won't work

[red oracle]

Lets do the obvious issue first: There are more town than any other character type... How do I make enough things that were not chosen to fill the hole

[limpid lark]

Because the majority of people are townsfolk

Only thing that works is 5p and 6p

[red oracle]

Theres other issues but yes

[limpid lark]

Aka teensy

Just because there a majority of people aren't townsfolk

Most of them are but it isn't 50% +1

7, with a 5 0 1 1 breaks this pattern

6 is 3 1 1 1

5 is 3 0 1 1

[red oracle]

5 doesn't work

[limpid lark]

So only a 6 player game could be done again

[red oracle]

unless you sentinel in an outsider

but sentinel only lets you go so far

[limpid lark]

Now with say 12 people you have 7 2 2 1

[limpid lark]

Sentinel would work here

[red oracle]

I wouldn't mind doing this again in the future - but I have other projects I want to do in the meantime

actually sentinel gets you pretty dang far...

[reef wigeon]

Even with that wouldn’t half the players know a tf that is in play?

[red oracle]

well that's not actually how you get to the other problem keep thinking

[reef wigeon]

Or worse if it’s you only get characters previously submitted

[red oracle]

consider how many demons are in game, and how many minions are in game... and realize something there...

[reef wigeon]

I might be really misunderstanding what you’re thinking of then?

[red oracle]

if people can't get same character - at least one evil player must now be good

[reef wigeon]

This was under the assumption that you wouldn’t have to get a character you submitted which without that makes this so much worse

[crystal dirge]

@lunar valley did you send in your picks?

[reef wigeon]

Basically the st would just make a bag with some of the remaining lizards and hand them out randomly basically

[red oracle]

I mean - if I allow for 'you just can't get something YOU got' it could work

[lunar valley]

Yes

[crystal dirge]

siiiiiick

[red oracle]

And allow for you to get abilities from anyone

[limpid lark]

you can do
5: 3 0 1 1
6: 3 1 1 1 ✅
7: 5 0 1 1 ❌
8: 5 1 1 1
9: 5 2 1 1
10: 7 0 2 1 ❌
11: 7 1 2 1 ❌
12: 7 2 2 1
13: 9 0 3 1 ❌
14: 9 1 3 1 ❌
15: 9 2 3 1 ❌

[reef wigeon]

Even then if you can’t get a character that was in play previously all non townsfolk’s from the previous game would know one character that is in play

[red oracle]

I don't follow

[reef wigeon]

Because the tf to non tf split is 50-50

[red oracle]

If you get ability A -> A and get ability B->A that doesn't mean A->B or A->C or A->D is in play

[limpid lark]

Oh are we reusing lizards?

[red oracle]

I mentioned it as a joke

[reef wigeon]

Ok so this is under the assumption that if a character submitted was in play it can't be the next time right?

[red oracle]

and it turned into a conversation

[reef wigeon]

and the split of townsfolk to non-townsfolk is 50/50 at best

[crystal dirge]

It be like that sometimes

[red oracle]

Oooooh I see what you are saying so half the grim would know that their townsfolk is in play somewhere

[reef wigeon]

Yeah that's what I was trying to get at

[red oracle]

not necessarily where, and they could be evil but...

[limpid lark]

Thus most of townsfolk is confirmable

Because most of the people who didn't get TF are likely to get TF/outsider

[red oracle]

but only to a specific person who may or may not be evil... a that says you cannot confirm or deny a role came from you could do it...

[limpid lark]

About 1/4 to 1/3 won't be good

[red oracle]

but yeah there's like no way of filling this hole properly

you'd need house rules upon house rules

[reef wigeon]

Yeah I think there is no way to fix reusable lizards well

[limpid lark]

We need stronger outsider mods for this...

OFC if you downsize most of these problems go away

[red oracle]

well there is one: Have everyone send in two groups to begin with - but at that point are you even reusing lizards

regardless - it doesn't work

[limpid lark]

Say some people leave, for each number you can host based on TF left

[red oracle]

That ... could work theoetically - especially if you include the picks from the people who left

[limpid lark]

5: 2 TF left
6: 3 tf left
7: 2 TF left
8: 3 tf left
9: 4 TF left
10: 3 tf left
11: 4 TF left
12: 5 TF left
13: 4 TF left
14: 5 TF left
15: 6 tf left

[red oracle]

so ... a game of 13-15 would go down to a game of ... 12 or less?

I ... think that works

[limpid lark]

TF left is less than tf needed

[red oracle]

which would be 10 or less then

so you lose 1/3 of the group

Lizards elimination match 😛

Which also doesn't work because it requires evil to lose just about

[limpid lark]

5: hosts 5-6
6: hosts 5-6
7: hosts 5-6
8: hosts 5-6
9: hosts 5-6, 7-9
10: hosts 5-6
11: hosts 5-6, 7-9
12: hosts 5-9
13: hosts 5-6, 7-9
14: hosts 5-9
15: hosts 5-9, 10-12
16: hosts 5-12
17: hosts 5-12, 13-15
18+: hosts 5-15

Oh I did a (math)

[red oracle]

5 loss of 0
6 loss if 0
7 loss of 1
8 loss of 2
9 loss of 3, loss of 0 with
10: loss of 4
11: loss of 5 2 with
12: loss of 3???????
13: WTF - 7?! 4 with sentinel
14: loss of 5
15: loss of 6, 3 with

Ok so what I’m very confused by is 11 losing 5 (possibly 2 with sentinel) 12 dropping to 3, 13 going up to 7 without sentinel and 4 with it, then 14 returning to near normalcy. I’m assuming 13 is probably taking the hit mostly due to outsider count=0?

[limpid lark]

13 is taking a hit due to outsider count = 0, and because the amount of TF is 9, meaning only 4 TF remain, which 1 TF left is the difference between groups most of the time

11 and 13 have the same number of TF left, but it shows as a TF loss for 13 because of more people in the game

Oh I should fix my chart from before, it doesn't work (the basic one)

And expand my thing up to 20p for lols

I am assuming no travelers until 16p where they are given out at random

Adding more travelers given out at random makes this easier

[reef wigeon]

Travs start at 16p?

[limpid lark]

Yes

15p is the max with normal players

[reef wigeon]

Yeah you just worded it in a way it sounded like 20p was when you started adding travs instead of 16p

[limpid lark]

Fixed that

So if you have 18 people or more you can run the game again without problems*

*you need everyone to come up with a good traveler character and an evil character traveler as well

Man I have to stop letting math into here

(I never will stop)

[limpid lark]

Ok so one of my games has ended so I can 100% play!

[alpine shoal]

oh that feelign when suddenly a game ends and oyu can play an new cool game

very good feeling

[red oracle]

@brave yew adding you to kib since you said yes elsewhere, let me know if this changes

[brave yew]

lizard

[brave yew]

How many players do you have?

[red oracle]

12-14, I can potentially have 1 more (I think 13-14 as x-man is almost certainly yes)

[limpid lark]

Now a definitely a yes

[brave yew]

You should let me play :3333

makes sense to ping for that huh

@red oracle hello

[red oracle]

DM me picks when you can

Today is last day

[reef wigeon]

Dm him mario mario drunk mario

[warped halo]

Waffles are u ready to win

Our picks are the best

[reef wigeon]

so ready

[pulsar robin]

😔

[reef wigeon]

why is this pensive???

[pulsar robin]

there’s context that I’m not sure if I’m allowed to share

[reef wigeon]

Probably not :P

[red oracle]

Looks like we might have a full 15, and if not 14 should be fine

[alpine shoal]

someone sent once an TF pick mario lunatic and drunk as the other 3 picks and told the ST to not tell them theyre evil

[onyx plume]

I remember that

[red oracle]

@pulsar robin @open aspen @raw osprey @chilly iron @lilac spade @warped halo @worldly yarrow @limpid lark @unreal finch @alpine shoal @mild halo @royal ridge @lunar valley @limber flare @brave yew Please ✅ if you know you are fully able to come, ❓ If maybe, ❌ if unable

Game in 6 days

[warped halo]

I’m good to play

And my backpack hopefully will aswell

[red oracle]

Seating time
Please choose your seat

1. @lilac spade
2. @royal ridge
3. @pulsar robin +Dire
4. @chilly iron
5. @raw osprey
6. @alpine shoal
7. @limber flare
8. @limpid lark
9. @worldly yarrow
10. @warped halo + Waffles
11. @lunar valley + moo
12. @unreal finch
13. @open aspen
14. @brave yew

Kib army:
@long sierra
@velvet canopy
@thin cape
@rancid barn
@onyx plume
@bold crypt
@whole idol
@orchid berry
@clear prairie

@mild halo move to kib?

[limber flare]

omg first seat 7 please

[limpid lark]

Seat 8 please

[raw osprey]

5

[brave yew]

give me 1

whichever seat is at noon which should be 1

[worldly yarrow]

Seat 9 please @red oracle

[royal ridge]

2 please

I would love to have seat 2

@red oracle <333

[unreal finch]

12 pls!

[chilly iron]

4

[pulsar robin]

3 please

[brave yew]

I'll change to 6

[lunar valley]

can i have 11

[warped halo]

10 please

[lilac spade]

1

[crystal dirge]

good choice

[brave yew]

I'm gonna change (yes, again) to 14 :3

[red oracle]

@alpine shoal @open aspen I didn’t ping the first time, but figured I probably should ping you so you know of this

[open aspen]

13 pls!

[alpine shoal]

eh seat 6 is fine

[warped halo]

when we starting?

nvm

[red oracle]

4 days remain

[worldly yarrow]

Do we get to preview the rules for the roles on the script before the game starts?

To ask about edge cases and so on

[red oracle]

I don't know I understand the question

[reef wigeon]

There is no script you just see your own character

[red oracle]

I've deliberately thought about a lot of those and am deliberately using the 'examples' spaces on role cards to cover it

[worldly yarrow]

So the evil team can just make up their ability entirely wholesale for a bluff?

[reef wigeon]

If I have the same ruleset in my head that pac is using, yes

[warped halo]

Waffles

This is gonna be great

Also I’ve never done/had a backpack before so it’ll be interesting

[red oracle]

Yes, but the demon doesn't receive bluffs unless an ability says that they do

[warped halo]

being a demon on this script sounds rly hard

[reef wigeon]

That's why you give mario/drunk as your demon

[warped halo]

huh?

ohhh i get it

[warped halo]

minion snitch lol

[worldly yarrow]

Wacky idea:

Demon snitch - all good players recieve three different ability descriptions with similar mechanical features (All choose a player during the night, all do something with nominations, visit the ST and learn a thing, etc etc). Only one of them is their true character.

Each night* choose a player - they die

[alpine shoal]

demon snitch would be a good demon to still rechiv ebluffs

but otherwsie lizards mostly gives no bluffs to evils

which is a down side since i rarely play evil so i relly a bit on some bluffs XD or i just dont want to be evil

unless my evil team somehow choose snitch as thier evil role to give me bluffs

[red oracle]

🕰️ 🕒

[alpine shoal]

i cliam clock with a number of 3

the thread and the channel are 3 days apart guys time to win the game

[limpid lark]

I might not be the most available during setup and possibly D1 due to being grounded for a week

I will try to pop in the afternoons 11pm to 12pm PST but there likely won't be a ton of people on at this time

[radiant token]

Above time (23:00 PST) in your local time · Feb 25, 2025, 7:00 AM

[royal ridge]

Isn't it an inbuilt feature of the demon, regardless of script/character, to receive bluffs?

@red oracle Is this not the case?

[alpine shoal]

you can bootleg to not give bluffs in some expierimental scripts such as lizards

bc technnically evil has free bluffs fom thier TF/outsider picks

[royal ridge]

Ahh, interesting... I hadn't considered it that way at all

That works

[alpine shoal]

and evisl can just fabricate an ability with TS in ST thread

[red oracle]

The storyteller is happy to help evil build their own bluffs

[red oracle]

2 days remain

[crystal dirge]

Yaaaaaassssss

[alpine shoal]

i claim again but my number chnaged to a 2

(ive played a game with someone who was an mutant bluffing clockmaker with: ëach night you learn an random clockmaker number"

[worldly yarrow]

Are we guaranteed to get OUR picks? I thought they got shuffled and assigned randomly once a power has been thought up for them?

[rancid barn]

People get their picks yeah.

Evils can bluff anything, because it's Lizards and almost anything is possible as long as it's not like broken.

The Storytellers are generally happy to help with bluff.
Imo Demon bluffs are useful in a way that these are 3 good abilities to bluff that the Storyteller, who knows everything about this game, have created and balanced.

[alpine shoal]

you get one of your picks

and if you are evil you can just fabirciate an ability with one of your good picks to bluff with but i rather dont wanna be evil in lizards

[pulsar robin]

add + Dire to mine

[red oracle]

24

[red oracle]

Am I allowed to request room (to throw kib in) early so I can more easily request feedback of script prior to game from kib?

[rancid barn]

No idea tbh, better to ask a mod.

[red oracle]

I thought you were a mod?

[rancid barn]

I'm just a Minion. Mods are Doomsayers (red)

[red oracle]

Ah

[red oracle]

Eh we’ll be fine

[lilac spade]

lol

[red oracle]

12

[alpine shoal]

👀

[crystal dirge]

Should get a channel in twoish hours

[red oracle]

I feel like the love in that statement is in the wrong place

Like there are 2 places where it could have gone and you picked neither

[crystal dirge]

I just woke up and that's not anywhere near the sentence I remember typing

[red oracle]

Lol- that’d do it

[unreal finch]

I am excited, this game is going to be wild

[crystal dirge]

I was excited and not quite awake, perfect recipe for sentences that don't make sense

[warped halo]

I’m so excited

This will be great

[red oracle]

And you just can’t hide it?

[warped halo]

Yes

I’ve never been more excited for a game

[red oracle]

Are you about to lose control?

[lunar valley]

yayyyy lizards!!

[alpine shoal]

oop 🦎

[warped halo]

I feel like ur quoting something and I’m drawing a blank

[red oracle]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8iwBM_YB1sE

[rancid nacelle]

@red oracle The date you set for your game has arrived, and you have enough players. Click Create channel to get your game channel. If you can't or won't start the game now, you can join the queue or cancel the game.
This will time out <t:1740848400:R> (<t:1740848400:f>)

[red oracle]

I’ll get you after lunch