gray thorn
Script honoring the confluence of Halloween, Diwali, and Election Day. Going for themes and icons that point to them (spooky things, candy, lights, politics).
Po can be hard confirmable if it kills 3, but when protection works, it can cause confusion. Lycan throws off suspicious of Po & Shab. Town Crier works nicely with Fearmonger.
LMK if you see any potential conflicts or if you have suggestions for improvements!
lethal axle
Personally am not a fan of sage without Vortox or Pukka, but maybe its fine between dashii and the faster demons of shab and po
Edit: and also lycan
Shab scarlet can be dangerous, but its probably fine (just forces good to kill on final 6 instead of final 5)
Dreamer without a grim peeker or vortox smh
Dashii with innkeeper&lycan feels dangerous, especially without an assassin or drunk
Honestly i think Id want to see a Boffin on here specifically for NWM (mainly cause nwm has the opportunity to be rezed by prof which is probably too strong), probably to replace witch cause its in a weird place where you already have 3 quiet minions, 1 loud minion, and witch who eventually announces themself)
Edit: and then add magician or something that lets evil take advantage of the info roles
livid falcon
No Dashii + baron is the first thing I noticed (too few sober + healthy townsfolk)
lethal axle
Oh true
livid falcon
Also be wary of hard-confirmed professor too
Professor-confirmed mayor can be very difficult for the evil team to handle (as an ST never mayor-bounce off of a mechanically confirmed mayor more than once)
That isn't really a script issue tho
gray thorn
i don't mind swapping out Dreamer, NWM or Witch. I could swap Witch for Widow which gets us a grim peeker, but it's also loud
gray thorn
Dashii with innkeeper&lycan feels dangerous, especially without an assassin or d...
dangerous as in it makes it hard for the evil team?
livid falcon
i don't mind swapping out Dreamer, NWM or Witch. I could swap Witch for Widow wh...
I'd add spy as then you can professor-resurrect a spy which is fun
gray thorn
oooh i like that
lethal axle
dangerous as in it makes it hard for the evil team?
Yes, if innkeeper or lycan are constantly failing, the only reasons i can see are no dashii or puzzlemaster (who would generally out)
gray thorn
a failing lycan feels like it would give great potential for discord, as the lycan would throw shade at whoever they picked. I can see the problem with an IK failing, but then wouldn't the evil team just off the IK? (Assuming i put the spy in the game)
lethal axle
Evil team wont always have a spy when the no dashii neighbors the innkeeper
tribal slate
Where pumpkin
gray thorn
Update. Swapped out Witch and SW for Spy & Assassin
I wouldn't mind swapping out ND for Vig, but Vig + Boomdandy isn't great
gray thorn
also don't love that it would reduce Outsider count
yeah i was about to suggest pukka
lethal axle
Pukkas main issue is it just makes mayor sad
gray thorn
oh because it nullifies the bounce?
lethal axle
I mean that part sucks, but the main issue is final 3 with mayor and pukka, 50% chance the mayor is poisoned (probably higher)
Just feels bad to be the mayor there
lethal axle
Hatter prob a bit better, tho with shab it can get dangerous if it lives too long
Id do Plague probably
Actually plague is a bit weird with this minion group, maybe not
gray thorn
PD doesn't feel great with this script, 4 jinxes on the current slate of minions
lol yeah
gray thorn
Plague with jinx characters > Plague with unjinxed characters lol
how do you mean?
lethal axle
The jinxed PD interactions generally give players more agency, and I've seen some people say that makes them more fun, and I tend to agree
Odd ones out being boomdandy, baron, and twin
gray thorn
wow boomdandy explodes immediately
lethal axle
Fear, Spy, Scarlet, Goblin, and honestly Mario are all great with PD
gray thorn
wow Mario/PD jinx is great, just read it
PD is too good to avoid, gonna swap Zealot for PD and Boomdandy for Mario
lethal axle
XD
Idk how you feel about the technically +2 evil between poli and Plague Mario
(Tho i do think that a PD baron making a poli is an excellent interaction)
I guess you could just trust STs not to make PD marios with politicians in play, or you could just not care about mario + poli cause theyre both kinda unstable
gray thorn
yeah i think it still work, at least worth trying
thanks for your help!
playing it tonight
livid falcon
playing it tonight
Have you considered godfather over baron for some more death-mod? Other than that, this script should be ready to go!
lethal axle
Honestly i dont think shab is ever gonna pass as the other 2 demons unless a lycan is in play. So its probably best that godfather isnt confirming outsiders
Honestly considering the ease of which a shab would be detected, maybe remove prof (also cause professor kinda makes a zombie)
gray thorn
If the Po hits just 2 of his 3, I like that it could seem like a Shab game
But I guess I don’t mind swapping out Shab for Imp and Prof for … something
lethal axle
If the Po hits just 2 of his 3, I like that it could seem like a Shab game
Yeah but po has to charge the night before to get those 3 kills
gray thorn
True
lethal axle
Pixie? Its basically a halloween costume
lethal axle
I thinks its supposed to be about pixies stealing children or something idk
gray thorn
Cannibal? Pie is kinda like candy and cannibal power is like a costume
gray thorn
hm
lethal axle
...alchemist is not the worst idea with your minion bunch
Hard jinxed with spy, and assassin is kinda a slayer
Strong with baron and fun with fearmonger
Marionette alch kinda meh tho (knowing no one else is the marionette til pd dies, and learning if a pd makes a mario are both helpful tho)
lethal axle
Bit sad with spy assassin and pukka, (and you already have a bird in sage)
lethal axle
I categorize TF that need to die to get their ability off as birds (ravenkeeper, sage, farmer, banshee)
Some even consider soldier to be a bird cause it needs to be targeted to help town
gray thorn
oh i see
lethal axle
Another term ive seen people use is demonbane
gray thorn
ok i'll try pixie
lethal axle
Have you given additional thought to swapping mayor or are you fine with the mayor pukka interaction?
gray thorn
i'm ok with it, i'm too much of a slave to the theme
it's an edge case and if it gets down to 3 and the mayor is in play, they will be loud about it and then town can decide if it's worth the risk
lethal axle
I dont think its ever gonna be worth it to go for the mayor win cause i think a pukka can convincingly look like an imp or a po that never charges so its never worth the risk
gray thorn
sure but the gaming it out is still fun
lethal axle
Alright
livid falcon
Thinking of swapping mayor for new acrobat
Not enough droison, I'd leave it as is
livid falcon
i guess it’s an edge case
Not quite
It's a rather prevalent issue imo
I'd replace it with alsaahir maybe?
gray thorn
Well I mean having both on script isn’t gonna happen each play. But yeah if they’re together it’s a peoblem
Not a bad idea
livid falcon
Are you gonna test mayor + pukka when you run it?
livid falcon
What if I put in a minstrel? Feels chaotic but maybe fun
I wouldn't, it's either too powerful when there aren't many reasons for no deaths or messes up too much info.
gray thorn
Yeah and I don’t wanna actually prolong the game
lethal axle
Well I mean having both on script isn’t gonna happen each play. But yeah if they...
The problem isnt having both pukka and mayor in play at the same time, its just having mayor in play, you can almost never trust the mayor isnt pukka poisoned because the demons arent distinguishable enough (except a po triple kill)
gray thorn
Yeah I see that now
lethal axle
Magician would be a decent mayor swap
gray thorn
Yeah I agree
gray thorn
The other two games were won by good on day 2
shy oriole
I was gnome for the second one
lethal axle
I’m an evil man
Madlad lmao
shy oriole
We’ve realized pukka works bad with pd :(
lethal axle
Yeah pukka is a little sad with all the outsiders with death abilities, but said outsiders can still be executed or assassin killed or lycan killed
