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silver relic Oct 21, 2024, 4:06 AM

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I'm feeling pretty good about where this script is at and played once irl. I know, it's a poppy grower - bounty hunter - lycanthrope script, but I think mez - boffin - summoner do a lot of work balancing it out.

The themes are:

Plague Doctor -> Baron -> new Lunatic can simulate (a) a summoner, or (b) an Imp Starpass to a marionette.
Lots of confirmation for the good team (grandmother is only way to have extra death, Sailor + Fool are only survive execution, Virgin) but Boffin, bounty hunter, mez, and summoner mean that even confirmed players are untrustworthy.
Hard to tell if there's a summoner in play (Lycan, Innkeeper, Sailor, Fool) and hard for the Lunatic to tell what they are (Ojo, Mayor, Lycan)

I put Spirit of Ivory on there, but all it really does is "If the bounty hunter is in play, Mez does nothing" so it's more of a promise that I won't add both to the bag or Plague Doctor into a Mez if there's a BH.

My biggest question for y'all: (although of course all feedback is welcome). does this script need a sentinel? I worry that the outsiders aren't quiet enough to work with Baron being the only mod. I used to have damsel here, but I didn't love it as much as the 4 currently there (probably the ideal play as damsel is pretend to be the fool or sailor and execute self day 1. I don't love it with Lycan or without boomdandy).

strange token Oct 21, 2024, 4:35 AM

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baron is fine here

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sentinel would make it much worse

modest osprey Oct 21, 2024, 12:09 PM

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no dashii is pretty bad here. With all these mechanical roles its extremely trackable where the poison is

silver relic Oct 21, 2024, 4:09 PM

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Fair. Maybe a Vigor? The one game I played featured a summoned No Dashii and it went fine, in part because the summoner successfully avoided placement next to one of those roles (Lycan, Fool or Virgin)

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The "minions keep their abilities" part of vigor doesn't do much here, but the - outsider and + poisoning would be nice. It's kinda trackable due to mechanical roles for the same reason, but I think the vast majority of games it will be fine with careful ST placement of the poison

silver relic Oct 22, 2024, 2:03 AM

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modest osprey no dashii is pretty bad here. With all these mechanical roles its extremely trac...

One more question: I'm thinking of replacing Fool -> Minstrel. Fool is the only character here that is really really rough in terms of failed confirmation (even Virgin/Lycan/Sailor have other explanations for failing, but making the Fool into a Marionette on a script with no mutlikill demons is almost always really rough). I like the idea of adding something that inhibits Lycan + Bounty hunter

modest osprey Oct 22, 2024, 2:05 AM

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yea minstrel is probably fine. it screws over BH, but if thats intended, sure.

silver relic Oct 22, 2024, 2:07 AM

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wait minstrel summoner might be too brutal

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