On the Subject of Sanity

[gilded wing]

First draft of a script, any glaring oversights or bad ideas here?

[tropic sparrow]

you have way too many extra evils. BH + CL + mez + LoT and thats not even getting into mez cycling with pit hag

you also only have 12 townsfolk

you should have 13

[worthy pulsar]

yeah the extra evils is a thing, lord of typhon is really hard to make work with any extra evils

imagine a 7p LoT game - it's already 4v3, now add mez and evil has outright majority

i would replace mez with something like Witch or Godfather

to hide the extra kills that the yaggababble can get

[gilded wing]

Ok, very quick revision on the above points

[tropic sparrow]

still too many extra evils, you should have +1 max

[worthy pulsar]

cult leader and lord of typhon is fine actually

just kill cult leader before it gets to f3

and ST can make sure they're good

BH is too much tho

[gilded wing]

If I just chuck spirit of Ivory on there does that fix the problem?

[tropic sparrow]

oh no

now you just disable people's abilities

[nocturne horizon]

The demons do not synchronize here.

the gimmick of LoT is it has an incredibly powerful bonus with the catch that the good team CANNOT figure out that it’s a LoT game. I believe Hystrex refers to it as a “glass cannon”, which is fitting.

Al-had is announced so if it’s not announced N2 that’s a 50/50 for LoT and unless the Yagga is being tame or pithag stuff it’s pretty clear what demon it is shortly after, which destroys the LoT.

either remove the LoT or drastically change the demon roster

[tropic sparrow]

SoI is for stuff like mez cycling

[nocturne horizon]

SoI does not fix 90% of double evil scripts

[tropic sparrow]

not for, help this script has too many individual characters that can cause extra evils

[gilded wing]

I'm fine with dropping Typhon, any suggestions for a better alternative?

[nocturne horizon]

i mean if you’re going for obvious but powerful demons then shabaloth is pretty good

[gilded wing]

Sounds a laugh

I might knock off yag as well, Just go Al-had or Shab

[nocturne horizon]

also i would swap off dreamer here since it’s unbluffable by evil

besides that it looks like a solid script

[gilded wing]

How does Village Idiot feel in its place?

[nocturne horizon]

that might be fun ngl

[gilded wing]

So this is what I've ended up with

[nocturne horizon]

final few things i’m noticing aren’t huge so ignore this if you want but:

• if pithag does some shenanigans then alsahir will never guess the right chatacter types despite guessing the whole evil team

• Cult Leader + BH is still a bit dangerous, even with SoI

• Cult Leader is kinda just…a bad character? i could get into it but it’s almost always negative utility for town in its current state

[gilded wing]

If I'm honest I'm kind of feeling ditching the pit hag for a baron or a godfather, not sure what I fancy as opposed to cult leader though

Also had a hankering to add Fang Gu to the script, is that a bad idea?

[nocturne horizon]

bad idea, too many extra evils already

[nocturne horizon]

yeah i think baron would fit well on this script

[gilded wing]

How's FT instead of cult leader?

[tropic sparrow]

good!

[nocturne horizon]

amazing

actually without demon mobility or moving droison it might be a tad too strong

not sure tho i’d playtest it

[slow moth]

I do lol

I think it's the biggest glass cannon in all of botc

You get an extra minion. Like a full extra minion. That's busted. Also all your minions get bluffs. Extremely powerful. But it's also extremely fragile; if a single evil player is found out, the good team can trace the demon pretty well

That also needs the good team to know the demon type, but they'll be thinking about it anyway

[gilded wing]

Do you think Viz would be funny on here?