[ξ] the much much how how and... ...uh ...dark forgot how to finish this joke [ξ]

[amber snow]

release boom

[regal pagoda]

wait does it remove itself from the bag

[still folio]

Yes

Also

This definitely loses d1

Easy

Even uh

N0

Easiest win

In history

Actually

Noone wins

As all evils are technically dead

Non existing

[amber snow]

yeah

[regal pagoda]

huh

[amber snow]

theres no evils for a lil bit

[amber snow]

no evils r dead theres just no evils

[still folio]

I mean

If we take raw

Good wins

[amber snow]

no

[still folio]

😒

[amber snow]

theres no dead evils

[still folio]

Let me have my fun

[still folio]

There's no demon

[amber snow]

summoner aah

[still folio]

.

[amber snow]

take what raw what do you want to eat raw eddy

usually u should cook ur food

[still folio]

Raw onions

[amber snow]

good

[still folio]

Anyways

If take read this ability literally

Technically there's no demon

[amber snow]

anyways raw it all u want if steven can say "ehh nah game doesnt end acc" so can i

[still folio]

So good auto wins

[still folio]

1 sec

[amber snow]

!

[still folio]

damn Steven Medway, not knowing how the game works

(I'm reusing this sentence everytime "there's no demon" thing is brought up)

[amber snow]

literally !

[pearl gyro]

Summoner wording has done inexplicable damage to the world of homebrew

[amber snow]

i know right its great

[pearl gyro]

It's a good sentence

[hearty niche]

Question about the Faurein

Its ability reads

"If you would and they're mad you're good, register as dead"

Does that clause

Only apply

If the Faurein gets killed in the night

Or is it just

"die" in general

@amber snow

[amber snow]

at night

[pearl gyro]

Dark you should probably add a bullet point under the Overview in the almanac to specify that

Cause I do think it's not obvious

[amber snow]

i mean probably should

yes

added it

[amber snow]

hii ive retired gestalt and pawn

and put em on a file w two bootlegs

https://tinyurl.com/darkhomebrew-2

[pearl gyro]

I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'D DO THIS TO PAWN

I'll never forgive you

[amber snow]

[hearty niche]

Xaan + Faurein

I will die on this hill

[pearl gyro]

Yeah it fucks

I've been thinking about it

[still folio]

How do i accesss homebrew

Without fucking tiny url

[pearl gyro]

What do you mean?

[still folio]

I cannot load through the tinyurls

All I'm getting

[pearl gyro]

https://www.bloodstar.xyz/p/TheDarkArtist/DarkArtists_Stuff/almanac.html

[amber snow]

kinda does go hard actually yeah

[hearty niche]

Fucking your information since 1991

[still folio]

Fake claims:

[solar pier]

doing WHHATTT to your info?????

[hearty niche]

I said what I said

[still folio]

Luis

I'm sorry

But that's my thing to say that

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gun-cat-shoot-cat-shooting-cat-holding-gun-gif-4347301047204507086

[amber snow]

i updated styx to remove a couple jinxes and make d&tm jinx free!

[solar pier]

I'd rather just make that bracket "(not a Demon, if 1 lives)"

bc then it implies that the Styx kills every extra Demon

[amber snow]

i think that saying only one demon can live is clearer

[amber snow]

okay but like, when r u gonna have alive extra demons and a styx

never, really, both legion and riot have no styx, and everything else has only one alive demon

but sure ill change it, though i think that the current one is easier to understand

[solar pier]

Pit-hag go brrrr

[amber snow]

when in your life have you seen a st not kill one of the demons with a pithag change 😭

[solar pier]

(you'd be surprised)

[amber snow]

see this fixes it by forcing the sts hand to kill one of them

to force the hand of god, almost

[rapid abyss]

SCP-3069 ⁠— To Force the Hand of God

by Cyantreuse
Object Class: Keter
Rating: +267

[dry bane]

ok i read this and i have no fucking clue how it works

what it be

[mystic sandal]

Tbf, I’ve tried that before

I can’t say it’s a super great choice but I’m me and I tried it

[amber snow]

ladies, gentlemen, non binary friends, other friends who i havent included in the first three names, i would like to welcome you to a new era

the era of chimneysweep working with minions who wake

sponsored by a new slew of jinxes

[mystic sandal]

🥳

[silver blaze]

So if the evil twin is the evil twin then do they learn evil info

[amber snow]

no minion gets evil info in a chimneysweep game

if theres no chimneysweep everythings as normal

[mystic sandal]

Me as the Demon on my way to learn the Mez word

[dry bane]

idk how im gonna jinx this with 'What Knife?'

[amber snow]

i dont know how this is gonna get jinxed with many characters because when it was just unworkable and unjinxed it was lovely bc i was like "doesnt work just move on" but after having this idea for fixing it

and making it

work

[solar pier]

@edgy carbon https://www.bloodstar.xyz/p/TheDarkArtist/DarkArtists_Stuff/almanac.html#roifainant_darkartists_stuff

@amber snow doesn't RF need a Boffin jinx?

If the Boffin is the Minion that the Demon doesn't know, the Boffin has the good ability instead & the Demon does not know which.

[mystic sandal]

It could also be the same as the Esper jinx. "If the Boffin is the hidden Minion, 1 Minion registers as teh Demon to the Boffin instead"

actually no

the Boffin should get to have their own ability

yours is better

[solar pier]

that's what i was thinking

*and it hides the Boffin *

[mystic sandal]

undertsandable. i am persuaded

[edgy carbon]

hello

[solar pier]

you can find the rest of dark's characters here

[amber snow]

probably just give the ability to some other minion yeah, ill do it when im home in some 15h

[mystic sandal]

technically you could argue there are niche times it would matter. Like the known Minion randomly executing their nominator with the Virgin ability 💀

but yeah, Boffin giving to either works well

[still folio]

@amber snow thy thread is uh, dead. Where are our characters

https://tenor.com/view/luccabug-angry-cat-angry-cat-being-pet-cat-pet-cat-gif-16721872127246114794

Even Bazaar has a better release schedule

[tired quail]

suspiciously tmmhhaudfhtftj character release shaped stomach i have no idea where they could be

[pearl gyro]

Dark doesn't have releases, they just let everyone see everything lol

[still folio]

Where are releases

[amber snow]

hello this is a very real release

thats made as a totally proper release

also everything has (placeholder) icons now

[silver blaze]

interesting

I really like this

because it's based, If you die at night, you learn 1-3 good characters in play.

but there's more info baked into it

[amber snow]

ty!

[velvet scaffold]

Gave +1 Thanks to @silver blaze (current: #341 - 123)

[amber snow]

!!

[still folio]

You just learn my character each time

Each one of the 3

🙄

Smh

[amber snow]

so true eddy

[still folio]

Also this rocks

[amber snow]

ty

[regal pagoda]

Do I read this as "learn the characters of 1 to 3 good players that could probably solve the game" or "learn 1 to 3 characters that, if they were in-play, could probably solve the game"

like, "the players that claim this will help solve the game" vs "this type of info would solve the game, but it might not be available"

[pearl gyro]

The latter

[amber snow]

the latter

it points you in the direction that solves the game, and gives you the claims that do so

[dry bane]

> metagnostics when they learn heretic

[amber snow]

im not sure heretic is useful for solving

for winning sure but solving not so much

[still folio]

No no

Demon told them their character

[dry bane]

what if an inplay heretic got information from another player or is balling with false information

id consider it

get jiggy with how the information is given

[amber snow]

then yeah sure go for it

[dry bane]

like High Priestess

[amber snow]

i added a new character

(arts a placeholder bc i didnt draw it as cool as it is)

[pearl gyro]

Wow

Dark has released two great characters before Luis has released the 4141

[silver blaze]

hmm

I'm worried about what rising evil role works with this character

[mystic sandal]

Styx

The answer is always Styx

[pearl gyro]

🔥

[amber snow]

yeah lmao the answer is patchwerk or styx

[still folio]

Does houndsmaster also practice physics

Or does his hounds practice physics

Which is how they revive people

[amber snow]

magic revives people

[regal pagoda]

so, like, which of your characters would you consider ready enough (or not ready enough) to put in a repository like Ivory Clocktower or Constellations

because right now i feel like i may have added characters a bit haphazardly

[amber snow]

if its on my main file and not on the secondary one im fine to have em

[regal pagoda]

but is it like advisable to have them

some have a lot less metadata than others after all

[solar pier]

Truueee

a lot of them don’t even have almanacs

[amber snow]

ahh

if its metadata i can do that tomorrow

almanacs are more of an issue but metadata is an easy solve

[stray summit]

Have we considered the old adage almanac shmalmanac

[amber snow]

if ur gonna round round up, is not most lacking, its all

[solar pier]

Um actually

If most just means >= 50%

Then 100% >= 50% = most

So get rekt nerd

[amber snow]

mfw nerd

wants to add linear algebra to hb theory

[solar pier]

TRUE

hear me out

Every setup with respect to character types and alignment is a space in R4 or R2

(Excluding travellers)

[amber snow]

im sorry why r4

[tired quail]

tf outsider minion demon

[amber snow]

ah

i forgot how setups work okay

[tired quail]

it's ok, not all of us can be as enlightened as luis

[amber snow]

and r2 bc good evil okay

[tired quail]

anyway this should be in r6 because of travelers (I know you excluded them idc I think that's not a good design choice) and fabled

[solar pier]

perish

😭

[regal pagoda]

oh it's not that I need metadata (though it's nice to have) but I was kind of thinking that characters who don't have it are less finished than those who do

[amber snow]

ah no things are unfinished bc icba to work on bloodstar

[regal pagoda]

but I'm going to assume that I thought wrong :)

fair enough!

[regal pagoda]

Rancoeur has a reminder text for the first night, but the ability text only mentions Each night* – which is correct?

[amber snow]

ah, reminder must be outdated, ill fix that

[amber snow]

justice

art coming tomorrow*

i didnt have time to render it today

*might not be tomorrow

if anyone looks at the secondary file (dont) (cringe) they might know this as "vote minion" from there

i figured out a name for it and wanna use it on a script, so yeah, justice

this is also the script rn (spoilers!! leaks!!!!)

fp by me
bougainvillea ||by imze||
apocrypha ||by sooth||
justice by me
eodinai ||by ice||

uhh yeah enjoy this is my monthly character

[solar pier]

What the fuck

[mystic sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/ace-attorney-phoenix-wright-yell-gif-14811531829145932572

Justice

[amber snow]

lmao

[thorny violet]

Who made the "No Dashii" and "Legion"? They sound like they change the game about as much as Eodinai

[stray summit]

Justice

[tired quail]

"legion" looks kinda like the yobbo from that one sdg

🤨

[amber snow]

me i made them

[stray summit]

Plagiarism And Art(Dark)

[silver blaze]

"Plagarism and Homebre(you)"

entirely in a homebrew anthology

[amber snow]

wdym plagiarism its me steven medway

[dry bane]

ok, prove it

give us the next character type

give us mother 3 reggie

[amber snow]

the next character type

is delbaf

[dry bane]

deldaf...

[still folio]

You made them? Lies. I have seen legion in dead by daylight and no dashii uhhhhh it just said that it is not a dashii and thus cannot dash

[regal pagoda]

DBD x BOTC collab when

[amber snow]

legion is indeed original, inspired by the legion from the drakenier universe

[amber snow]

hi i made a new guy just rn and i think its cool so it went straight to this file

spoilered bc its my take on ||machinist||

[tired quail]

"Some" is sending me and idk why

how many? idk some

like a couple

[amber snow]

however the st wants, but at least two

its not most and its not a defined amount

[mystic sandal]

Fwiw, you can also blame me. I suggested some as the word of choice

[pearl gyro]

Matsuraid pioneer lol

[amber snow]

yeah matsus done a lot of harm

[solar pier]

"Dead executees?" tf does that mean?

:wowee:

[amber snow]

!! literally

considering making an almanac entry for this guy bc i think it does need one

[pearl gyro]

Oh for sure

Cause at the moment, this is just kinda OP for good

Like, moreso than actual ||Machinist||

[amber snow]

it does incentivize giving outsiders, but yes it really needs an almanac which sucks because i have to make an almanac

[pearl gyro]

I can't wait to play this crazy MHD-style script with off-script good characters that could be from anyone's homebrew collection!

Looks inside

Butler

[amber snow]

all is as all should be then

[still folio]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1084336204683685910/1342657955945906297/legion_takeover.gif

[silver blaze]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1326404073204875353/1341962457970769930/go_my_centurion.gif

[amber snow]

i like to be known for my lack of almanacs so since ive written one id like to keep my reputation by having the almanac not actually be in the almanac. thus, enjoy my handwriting

and my desk and keyboard

also if you cant read my handwriting, and to quote the best moment in metroidvania history, git gud

[amber snow]

oh also a secret thing (not #1104980997470171177) coming soon(-ish)

its gonna be decently big work but it shouldnt take me insanely long

[pearl gyro]

It's so over for me

[amber snow]

really is tbh i still dont know how you cant read the character names on the scripts lmfao

[pearl gyro]

Actually though I'm pretty sure I can read the picture, it just needs to be higher resolution/less blurry at the top

[amber snow]

okay let me try get a better one

my phones camera is actual jackshit though

[pearl gyro]

Like if you split it into 4 pictures closer up I think I'd be fine

[pearl gyro]

Lmao same

[amber snow]

two, take it or leave it

[pearl gyro]

One of the lenses fell off

I don't know when or how

So now all of my photos have weird color correction going on

[amber snow]

okay im nice. have 3

the third one aint great

but yeah

[pearl gyro]

I still find it so crazy your Rs are backwards

But yeah I can read this

[amber snow]

my rs are not backwards they are the right way

smh

[pearl gyro]

Yeah this is still definitely really strong for good lmao

[amber snow]

yes, it is, but also: evil bluffing to join them is fun, and its a game of chicken

how many r u willing to take before someone becomes a damsel

(plus you as the st get to balance it, you dont always need to be making undertakers and bookies, you can make knights and stewards)

[pearl gyro]

My 1 suggestion is "an unlisted ability of your alignment" so it works more dynamically with alignment changers, but idk

[amber snow]

sure thats a fine change

(also i think its a way to incorporate vanillagers, in a way, since if you decide to not visit the st youre pretty much just a vanillager but i think it doesnt feel like one)

[amber snow]

heavy alpha, still very much a work in progress but...

we're getting places

[hearty niche]

Hi Dark

Can I request the full json of all released characters 🥹👉👈

I wanna redesign a script of mine to incorporate homebrew

And yours has the chaos to get it

[amber snow]

yeah ofc ill try to make a json, might take a while bc i dont know how many ive got a json of already, but ill do it

meanwhile the bloodstar one is mostly incomplete but yknow, if you can use it as a base then thats something

https://www.bloodstar.xyz/p/TheDarkArtist/DarkArtists_Stuff/script.json

atm justice and flamekstoker dont have icons but theyll get them soonish

[hearty niche]

Ok thanks

That's more than enough 🫶

H3-05 Here we come!

[amber snow]

best of luck!

[hearty niche]

question

Haunt

“whatever they’re mad as”

what does that entail

[pearl gyro]

I think it should say "mad about"

Basically

Whatever they argue as being true/things they try to convince other of being true might become false at any point

[hearty niche]

I see

alright

[amber snow]

yeah true that ill change it just give me 10h

[still folio]

Ding ding

[stray summit]

DONG DONG

[amber snow]

true eddy thank you

updated

[stray summit]

So proud of this community

[still folio]

Gotta keep updates flowing

[mystic sandal]

*Do you remember those days? When the sun shone upon us? When birds were blooming and flowers were singing? It feels like so long ago. Now the colors buzz and taste of rot

I… I don’t know who to trust. I see them behind every corner. Those things wearing my friend’s face. The sky spinning above my head. Words of doom ringing in my ears. Please…. play one last song

Play me a…*

Symphony of Lost Summers

||(might add blurb here later)||

Substitutions:
Seamstress -> Wayfarer ξ , ♣︎ (Pyn)
Virgin -> Moonshiner ξ
Drunk -> Cassandra ξ
Spy -> Faeling ξ
Assassin -> Viscount ξ
Widow-> Songstress ξ, ⸸ (Maja)
Vigormortis -> Aunemoia ξ

OPTIONAL:

• Keep Seamstress

JSON

Never actually did upload this, so here you go :)

[pearl gyro]

🔥

[dreamy mica]

🔥

[still folio]

Right

I see you mist

[amber snow]

hi all

i said justice would get art soon

now, my notion of soon is slightly fucked up

but here is justice with artwork and flavour text by octometaknight

[dry bane]

cool sord

[amber snow]

oh uh secondary file also got a new character please ignore the fact that the flavour is nonexistent this is just the life of a character relegated to the secondary file

[dry bane]

small thing but i think Scribe's ability should be reworded to If you nominated today & at-least 1 player voted, tonight, learn how many evil players voted on it.

since otherwise it easily detects Vortox

and also id reword the Haunt's ability to either:

On your 1st night, choose a good player: whatever they're mad about while alive might become false. The 1st time you or they are executed, all learn this.
or
On your 1st night, choose a good player: whatever they're mad about while alive might become false. If you or they are executed, all learn this, even if dead.

since otherwise, on a 2nd public declaration of the haunt ping, all players just know that the executee must be the haunt (since a normally dead haunt cant make the ping)

lastly i think guilt can get a buff with the text: Players who nominate & execute others might die at any time since i think itd pair well with the other execution misdirection on the script and the lack of day kills/execution misdirection elsewhere

[amber snow]

the first time would be good tbh

that was the idea i just didnt write it

also i can make guilt kill at any time thats also fine

itd need more reminder tokens but that seems fine

[dry bane]

does guilt need more reminder tokens for day kills tho?

im a bit confused

[amber snow]

if its not "tonight" then it needs tokens since you can save the kill for like, 3 days later

which means guilt can queue like 2 or 3 kills

[dry bane]

ah i see

guilt says 'at night' instead of 'tonight'

[amber snow]

oh

well it was meant to be tonight

[dry bane]

ah

[amber snow]

however having these is cool bc then

[rapid abyss]

SCP-6061 ⁠— GUILTY. GUILTY. GUILTY.

by Ecronak
Rating: +356

💌 patreon.com/crombird

[dry bane]

https://tenor.com/view/town-of-salem-2-prosecutor-tos2-tos-2-town-of-salem-gif-6687083692775139643

also quick question @amber snow, but how does hellsent work

[amber snow]

uh

[dry bane]

oh

[amber snow]

someone starts as a crux

this is either the hellsent or the outsiders

if a crux nominates a player, that player becomes a crux that night and the old crux stops being one

an evil player cant turn another into a crux

they need to pass it to good first

[dry bane]

so what if no outsiders nominate

are they just

[amber snow]

then the outsiders stay cruxes

[dry bane]

immortal

and halt demon

[amber snow]

yes until the hellsent dies

[dry bane]

ah right

[amber snow]

it has an issue of stalemates but thats not the case where it stalemates

(youre also losing out on up to 3 good players' nominations)

[dry bane]

vigormortis

[dry bane]

sure but votes matter more than nominations unless the script caters to having noms matter

[amber snow]

i mean look at golem the whole downside is losing out on a nom

[dry bane]

ig, but golem losing their nom is public and evils know to avoid killing them

with hellsent, outsiders pose the issue of preventing demon kills

[amber snow]

yes

they do

but also as soon as they nom they could make an inmortal evil

[dry bane]

wait

isnt crux only at night

and not forever?

[amber snow]

no its just worded weird

because otherwise

[dry bane]

ah

[amber snow]

its like 300ch

[dry bane]

real

[amber snow]

(hellsent is, by far, not my smoothest character, and ive also never had the chance to run it, im not gonna sit here and defend it too much, its a sketchy character for sure)

[dry bane]

what happens if hellsent + demon are cruxes and refuse all intent to nominate, knowing that they are cruxes

[amber snow]

i guess you fiddle

[dry bane]

i see, counterpoint:
-#

jesting aside, whats the intent behind hellsent?

[amber snow]

it was made to fit a specific niche

the intent is kinda keeping nominations scary

[dry bane]

i see. im gonna just spitball a possible overhaul since idk how i would rework hellsent whilst keeping the exe survival aspect. Players nominated by an Outsider (or you if 1 was removed) might be executed. A Demon killed this way swaps characters with an evil. [-1 or +1 Outsider]

this is a very good collection, with the only real weaklink being the hellsent just for its issue with requiring ST intervention to make due in a very possible scenario

[amber snow]

it doesnt exactly fit the vision but i think thats a good idea for a start of a rework

i think realistically id want to make hellsent just protect during the day?

rather than making it execute

[amber snow]

but also thank you

[dry bane]

also unrelated subject, but whose the original creator of the leftenent

that and haberdasher are the only 2 characters i see made by 2 ppl

[amber snow]

luis and me

[dry bane]

so im wondering how that came about

[dry bane]

ik but like

[amber snow]

you also have songstress

metyore

[dry bane]

oh really?

[amber snow]

and starspawn

and wayfarer

[dry bane]

omfg im blind

i missed songstress caused it looked like temple fair/festival of lantern's chinese symbol to me 💀

[amber snow]

basically luis posted an idea i entirely overhauled it we liked the combination and kept iterating

[dry bane]

i see, neat

its a really nice minion that i think works well with this chaotic pirate themed script im running in the distant future:

plus a bootlegger rule There might be 1 or 2 extra Snake Charmers in-play. :P

[amber snow]

it is a great minion

its quite interesting

[dry bane]

ye

mass poisoning but it potentially outs the demon

[amber snow]

this is v1 left

[dry bane]

pair it with funny moment characters like Snake Charmer, Politican, Boomdandy, and xX_2662_Xx

[dry bane]

evil lookout be like:

[amber snow]

thats why its called leftenent lol

[dry bane]

yeah esper outclasses v1

but u cant judge a tree by the shape of its sapling

[amber snow]

oh yeah v1 is weak as all fuck

but it lead to a good idea

and haberdasher uh

let me find v1

quite similar just not fine tuned

the ability loss is to make it work with many kinds of demon

[dry bane]

reverse tea lady

[tepid hearth]

wdym style block

and wdym wherever

[dry bane]

he means to say a style element

on bloodstar, the text you enter (except for character flavour) has 0 fucking validations or filters, meaning you can enter raw HTML code in there and it will register

[tepid hearth]

are you serious? that’s hilarious

okay how do i code in HTML lol

[amber snow]

yeah how do you think i made my almanac look like that

[tepid hearth]

<body style=“background-color:purple;” >
</body> 
</html>```

is that at all correct

[amber snow]

yes but you dont need it for bstar

just do

<style>
/* css here */
</style>

[dreamy mica]

Oh god

[amber snow]

even character flavor

look at the faeling flavor text

and hover over "name"

there's just 0 filters period

[tepid hearth]

okay it did something

now my character doesn’t show up but it’s still gray

[amber snow]

do u know css squall

[tepid hearth]

no

I know Python and that’s it

[amber snow]

also i recommend putting the style block in the overview section

[amber snow]

okay then you need to learn it

[tepid hearth]

pfft

okay i see that

[amber snow]

kinda vital to know css to write css

[tepid hearth]

lol you’re so wise

[amber snow]

ikr

[tepid hearth]

I mean for one style element I can’t imagine I need that much knowledge

[amber snow]

not much no

i can also give it to you when im home

[tepid hearth]

I GOT IT

I’m so smart guys I definitely didn’t just forget a / this whole time

[dry bane]

https://tenor.com/view/ena-ena-joel-g-ena-dream-bbq-gif-5320379451163063784

[tepid hearth]

woah you did it for the character list too

that’s so cool

where did you put the css for that

[dry bane]

almanac summary

[tepid hearth]

what about the different character types?

or is that just automatic

[tepid hearth]

do you mean synopsis? is it a background color or a heading or something else?

[tepid hearth]

that works too lol

thank you

[tepid hearth]

could you when you get a chance?

I forgot how much i dislike coding

[amber snow]

i fear that chance will come in around 17h

but yes when i get the chance ill do it

[tepid hearth]

all good, take as much time as you need

my issue is differentiating the background from everything else

[tepid hearth]

I GOT IT

[amber snow]

woo

[tepid hearth]

kinda

it's janky and not working fully but it's progress

[tepid hearth]

Hey so uh it’s been 17 hours

[amber snow]

fuck

what part u want

[tepid hearth]

All of it

Please

[amber snow]

okay

when bstar wants to load

ill dm it to you

[tepid hearth]

Thank you!!!!

[still folio]

Can I have the part where you do a release

[tepid hearth]

Oh yeah I can’t get the code to work btw

Idk where to dump it lol

[wet hazel]

Is the daivout meant to end the game after the third night?

if most players turn into daivout and each cause one person to die, does everyone just die the first night they act? Or is there an implied “might” die like what legion has

[amber snow]

should have a might lol

thats on me

[amber snow]

uhh i do releases just not actual big releases

im pushing out a 3 demon update today (with or without icons, the 1st is done and has icon, we'll see about the other two)

[still folio]

Where are my constant pings

About new characters

[amber snow]

check in every so often i make like 1 char a month eddy

[still folio]

Don't see one

[amber snow]

but yknow, here's metyore with @tepid hearth

which i didnt add today but i did add not long ago

[amber snow]

added the might

[still folio]

Uh huh

Work twice

How does the work twice work for non first nighters

[dry bane]

you can just say At dusk. instead of After day 1

[amber snow]

i know, after day 1 is better imo

yknow, consistency

[dry bane]

truh.e...

[amber snow]

if you dont wake on night one dont be put on a metyore script

[tepid hearth]

I said at dusk but after day 1 is more logically consistent

[amber snow]

if youre a daytime role sure

[dry bane]

finally

[amber snow]

use the ability twice during the day

[dry bane]

a demon thats actually good with devils advocate

[amber snow]

but dont put tc w this

[tepid hearth]

It has 150 hate jinxes with every role that doesn’t do anything on night 1

[amber snow]

and with da

[still folio]

No no

Hear me

OUT

New minion...

Or a traveller...

[amber snow]

also squall if uve got an overview for it ill add it

[still folio]

Their ability is to remove a jinx...

[tepid hearth]

Having play tested this don’t put it in a zealot teensy

[still folio]

[tepid hearth]

I do!

Let me send it

[still folio]

Travel in as them

Into DA meteorite game..

[dry bane]

i like the idea, although the meme After day 1 does super constrain what scripts you can even slot this in

[amber snow]

yes

[tepid hearth]

Yes

[amber snow]

it does

i wont say it doesnt

[dry bane]

ah

alr

[tepid hearth]

The Metyore brings the world to an end.

• At the start of the game, at dusk, all players learn that the Metyore is in play.

• All Townsfolk abilities act twice. They do so at the normal time. If they would normally wake at night, they act, go to sleep, then wake to act again. If they have already used a “once per game” ability, they may use that ability again. If they have a “once per game” ability but have not used it yet, they may use it twice before dusk.

• The first player "about to die" is the player who has enough votes to be executed and more votes than any other player today.

• The first player about to die may visit the Storyteller and is told which player is the Demon.

• After the first day, evil wins.

[dry bane]

real shit tho id like to see a After day 2, evil wins. demon one day

[amber snow]

this is for semi meme scripts but thats fine

[tepid hearth]

It’s half a meme and half incredible

[still folio]

Add Panopticon as the second demon

If this gets a script..

[amber snow]

we love panopticon

[still folio]

[tepid hearth]

It’s also playtested and balanced hard around the minion not knowing the demon

[amber snow]

ie squalls only run it in teensies

[tepid hearth]

I don’t have the script on me but I can send it tonight

[tepid hearth]

I mean in larger games it’s fine

[still folio]

Hmm

Do i try botc again

[tepid hearth]

It’s teensies where voting majorities have problems

5p game with marionette and zealot was a bad idea

Uh don’t make that script

[still folio]

Listen.. a script where noone knows their real role

A marionette

A drunk

Uh

Idk

More homebrews

[tepid hearth]

lol I’m gonna make a full script for it one day

And make a poisoner jinx or something

[amber snow]

let me get bstar to load

and ill post the second demon

[still folio]

What's the second demon

[amber snow]

given that ive told u about metyore today ur technically getting 4 woo you eddy

[still folio]

You should drop the curtains..

[amber snow]

scp reference

if youve never read nightfall

read it

[still folio]

Sighh

[rapid abyss]

NIGHTFALL Hub

by TheDarkArtist, OnceIWasPicky, Doctor Cimmerian, MoreMuffins
Rating: +124

[still folio]

https://tenor.com/view/ursula-stenzel-eyeglasses-read-gif-15036259

[amber snow]

not entirely self promo even tho i have made part of this hub

bloodstar is so slow bc of me having too many images

so yes sw demon

not a new concept

just

an idea and a flavour ive had sitting there for 2 years

[still folio]

Looks like a shattering moon

Inside another moon

[amber snow]

an orb shattering inside a moon yes

[still folio]

You see...

[amber snow]

it even has flavour text

[still folio]

If it was inside the moon

We wouldn't see it

[amber snow]

bad one dont get me wrong

[still folio]

As crescent moon is not actually transparent

But that some spots are just darker

[amber snow]

omg eddy thanks for enlightening me with this knowledge

[still folio]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1031317201841565767/1215747928891723796/FrqkdisWIAIv4m-.gif

So in actuality

The black orb is between us

And the moon

And so conveniently being placed in the "hollow" area of the crescent moon

[amber snow]

quite conveninet

is it not

almost as if

that was the idea of the drawing

[still folio]

Yeah

Must've been a coincidence

pure luck

Nothing else

Still

Awesome ability

So this is like

[amber snow]

these are the other demon names at most one of these is getting an icon today

[still folio]

Repeating SW

[amber snow]

but ill add them both by the end of the day

[amber snow]

its like

imp

but if you starpass you ping

[still folio]

Hanged blood... Sounds like hanged king

[amber snow]

wow

why could that be

[still folio]

Or phantom blood from jojos

[amber snow]

almost as if i like alaggada

i almost called it hanged king

[still folio]

Luckily it is just a messenger

Anyways

[amber snow]

"a god shaped hole" is one of the hardest lines ever written

[still folio]

Why does this guy have fucking 12 days worth of activity in a game

[still folio]

And then there are SCPs like

[dry bane]

theres always scps where if ur put your dongle in the jongle your atoms get scrombled or smth

the response to that is: cool

i like reading other ppl's creative writing :)

especially SCP-1733

thats a cool one

[amber snow]

silly skips are fine but hear me out admo level world ending shit

[amber snow]

@still folio

[still folio]

I have awoken

From my deepest slumbers

Lemme read this shit

https://tenor.com/view/congrats-grad-nomoremasks-gif-21550620

[still folio]

Evil player? So can you like

Self nom

[amber snow]

you can

its gonna be sus

but you can

[still folio]

We are stalling the game until fiddler with this

[amber snow]

not on final day eddy

its before final day

so youre stalling until f3 at most and then being outed evil

[still folio]

Ooh before the final day

https://tenor.com/view/mouxy-cotorep-aveugle-debile-esquiver-gif-20546128

[dry bane]

i like this, although i think its a bit weak

[amber snow]

im not quite sure its weak but yknow, it needs a script with exe survival

[dry bane]

especially since you risk outting a minion but have the drawback of not waking tonight

[amber snow]

its really for a bmr script

[dry bane]

ik, but the fact that only evil players proc it whilst not causing it to kill feels underwhelming

you dont have the biggest incentive to use its ability in that case

[amber snow]

i mean the incentive is fake exe survival or crutch a win if some good roles kill

but i can see removing the no wake if i playtest it and it turns out weak

[dry bane]

fair, although the issue i see is that there arent many Townsfolk or Outsiders that kill without having a general idea of who they're killing

the only character i can think of is Gossip

and Showman (CM)

everything else is either killing themselves, a targetted person, or a neighbour of either

which is mostly there to aid in their confirmability

[amber snow]

you dont need to specify cm lmao i know, but yeah i mean shrug

with it not proccing final day

ill remove the thing

we'll see

[dry bane]

ye

also dope ass art tho

prob one of my favourites

bag of splooge

[amber snow]

thank u

[amber snow]

added the final demon but no icon this time

might make one tomorrow

[still folio]

My legion charge

My centurions attack

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1354577144440688736/1356243022899052634/LEGION_LEADER.gif

[dry bane]

cenchudions

[amber snow]

hi all ive retired hellsent for now until i figure out a way to fix the stalemate issue

and probably a whole rework

the secondary file also doesnt have up to date css since i changed a couple of fonts but thats fiiine

[shrewd igloo]

how does it stalemate? can't you pass to dead players?

well

[amber snow]

you can but if youve got 3 cruxes on final day neither team wants to do that

[shrewd igloo]

the minion does right?

since good doesn't win from their execution

and they can be killed on a future night while the stalemate exists

[amber snow]

uhh

true?

anyways it still has other issues that id like to fix

[shrewd igloo]

makes sense

[still folio]

Cruxes

[amber snow]

close enough, welcome back gestalt

[small pebble]

Why Gestalt

[dry bane]

oooooo thats one looks really cool

i like it alot

dead ringing but trackable

[amber snow]

the old one was called gestalt

[dry bane]

looks like a Zombuul B-Side

[amber snow]

so i kept the name

zombuul b-side is a good thing to look like bc yknow it was originally more zombuul

[dry bane]

yknow i dont know 🤓 ☝️

[amber snow]

it used to be on the file

got retired recently ish

[amber snow]

the idea is that the entirety of evil is worth more than a single evil so when one evil dies the whole of evil falls apart

[small pebble]

hrmmmmm interesting

could be more demonic idk

dont ask me how though

[amber snow]

probably

[dry bane]

i can see why this was retired - good minions are too common and would prevent gestalt from winning

[amber snow]

it was retired bc it was boring asf

same with pawn

like i think they would work ~ fine ~ but theyre boring

[amber snow]

@solar pier's fav demon of mine <3

[dry bane]

hmm

what if the pawn did something based off achieving a 2nd goal

[amber snow]

the secondary file is weird cause theres these characters which r here cause i think they have like no polish and then theres the rest which are retired bc theyre boring asf

[dry bane]

like how the pawn becomes a queen when it reaches the end of the board

[amber snow]

and hellsent which is retired bc i need to make it work

that would be cool actually

[dry bane]

this idea is prob taken but just spitballing: Each night*, choose a player: they die. You & a good player know each other's character. When they die, choose 2 from now on.

[amber snow]

thats taken like a thousand times

but i do like the idae

idea

of "promoting"

[dry bane]

make it interact with your queen

[amber snow]

oh god thanks for reminding me that i need to remake the queen icon

[dry bane]

spitball attempt #1: Each night*, choose a player: they die. If you & the Queen are the only evil players alive, you may choose to swap characters (once). [+the Queen, they are secretly evil]

actually nah

Each night*, choose a player: they die. If all Minions are dead, you may choose for the Queen to become an evil Pawn & you become a Minion. [+the Queen]

[silver blaze]

why the setup text

[amber snow]

a) ella said the idea of it while working on a character and i liked it
b) its a nerf to an otherwise strong ability, giving you the positional info that if a dead player neighbors other evils, theyre not the demon

instead of trading kpn for registering as dead like zombuul does, it adds a smaller number of demon candidates, where zombuul doubles it, this doesnt

[shrewd igloo]

When do they start registering as dead?

(Mostly worrying about evils who die by execution)

[amber snow]

on their NO spot

[shrewd igloo]

then i like it ✨

[dry bane]

thats a good point, RAW makes it seem like it dies like a possum when an evil player dies, which is almost always be exe unless it sacks early

you should reword it to include Tonight, after the EN*,CAP:TD.

Each night\*, choose a player: they die. Tonight, if another evil's dead, register as dead from now. [If you neighbour evil, become another Demon]

[amber snow]

i mean

no

acrobat didn't trigger instantly

its got a fixed spot in the night and triggers then

and if i added tonight itd be
Tonight, if an evil's died, [...]

but the tonight isnt necessary

a htr probably is tho

[dry bane]

old acrobat did specify at night

although it used en* instead of tonight

[amber snow]

Each night*, if either good neighbor is drunk or poisoned, you die.

[still folio]

Lwk...

[amber snow]

i made a tf but ive got no name or icon so uh itll be a bit before i add it

or actually should i keep it secret

issue is if i kept it a secret until its released elsewhere (if it is) im like. half likely to forget it exists

but ill keep it secret until it gets booted from where its from / that other thing is released

uhh a lil hint as per the ability its a tf that poisons

[dry bane]

snake charmer

[amber snow]

yes how did you know

im thinking of calling this tf Manticore Herder in case that does anything

[stray summit]

call it Simone

[amber snow]

a beautiful song

[dry bane]

ok when are u making a townsfolk named "Simon & Garfunkel"

[amber snow]

chantry and suitor now have flavour text

ty pyn

[wispy lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/lurantis-gif-25238734

[keen rivet]

@amber snow how does flamestoker work?

oh nvm

you dont choose the ability you just learn it

well is there a recomendation on running it then?

[amber snow]

uhh ive made a full almanac for it but i made it on paper and dont remember where

a recommendation on running it online or irl

but yes you dont choose the ability you just get an ability of the st's choice

generally you should give 1 outsider ability for every 2 or 3 tf abilities

[keen rivet]

ok thanks

[storm vapor]

Just to check - If a Twincyn survives execution, does it still turn the nominator into an evil Twincyn?

[amber snow]

raw yes but it really probably shouldnt

ive never tried twincyn with exe survival

ill do a tiny reword to change that

Each night*, choose a player: they die. If 5 or more residents live, the 1st to kill a Twincyn by execution becomes an evil Twincyn.
if you want it to, jinx it with whatever can make it survive exe

also used this as a chance to do a small update on haunt as well

also im just 24 characters away from being forced out of bloodstar and having to finish that wikidot page i want to make for myself

which in case someone isnt aware has the page layout set up im just missing like, bringing every character over

[placid marsh]

any chance you could make the script name max 50 chars so that it imports nicely? otherwise thank you for keeping to the schema limits, all characters follow the official schema

i understand it is not a priority or really needed with a character collection but just suggesting

[amber snow]

yeah

i have to update something else so im on that

updated that

and also made an aesthetic/ease of comprehension change to false prophet

[placid marsh]

thanks!

[velvet scaffold]

Gave +1 Thanks to @amber snow (current: #752 - 42)

[winter maple]

oh that's so much easier to read lol

[amber snow]

yeah 💀 id been meaning to do that for months but just forgot

[winter maple]

real

[amber snow]

tbf ive got 75 public characters and not all of them are worded well that's just what u get

[winter maple]

makes sense

[amber snow]

also if anyone wants to count there's only 74 visible in the almanac but there is another one so go find it 😌

[storm vapor]

I always wondered what this was

[amber snow]

a surprise

or a thing you can see if you inspect element

[tepid hearth]

i found it

that's a fun character

[amber snow]

😌

[tepid hearth]

spicy

[amber snow]

its on whitney

so we now have cleric

and mini clerics

[tepid hearth]

is it? I totally didn't notice it last time I played it

[amber snow]

wasnt then

we wanted some swaps

and did one tf swap

two minion swaps

[tepid hearth]

ah i see

[ashen yew]

wait is there a reason it can’t be:
On the final day, if an alive player is executed, their team wins, even if dead. ?

[amber snow]

not really but they mean the same thing

[ashen yew]

i feel like all the prepositions are kind of cluttered

[amber snow]

if you think that ones clearer idm that

changed it to that i do like how short it is

also another news update

a lot of flavour texts added today

check them out i particularly recommend haunt

[fluid spade]

oh oops ive realised that ive accidentally come up with the Twincyn but just worded worse 😭

[tepid hearth]

Been there

I remade Luis’ seraph from first principles once

[fluid spade]

bro i got character-count-mogged

[amber snow]

okay to be fair twincyn is not a creative design

[wispy lotus]

And not CoL? wow dark 😔

[amber snow]

doesn't have funny javascript

[amber snow]

im not even pushing an update bc it doesnt deserve it but i added haberdasher's flavour text which i shouldve added ages ago when luis released haberdasher but no i didnt

i also added metyore's icon which squall made and i need to remember to make one myself

and thats it for today

[amber snow]

change of plans the wiki might not be just for me

[dry bane]

what happened?

[amber snow]

development

fun stuff

[dry bane]

ahhhh i missed the "just" part of that message

[amber snow]

added 3 characters to the secondary file but take them with a sea of salt it is the secondary file

[tepid hearth]

hm

[amber snow]

hmhm yes very hm

[dry bane]

1st one is a bit weird. minions have the demon's ability, but they arent the demon, so they risk just straight up sniping their lord and master a bit more commonly than a GF in a PG game

[amber snow]

yes

[dry bane]

also you can change Townsfolk to 'Bluff'

imo

[amber snow]

no you dont get bluffs

[dry bane]

ik

but they think they are what a bluff would be

eh w/e

not the biggest thing

[amber snow]

that just extends it to outsiders

[dry bane]

i think its fine. similar to the '1 Minion doesn't know they're evil & isnt a part of evil team' TF ive seen before, but i think it works

[amber snow]

which increases the amount of paranoid people

[amber snow]

the issue with this one and why its in the secondary file is its insanely strong

[dry bane]

its weird but i kinda like it, but id need to understand what scripts its placed on to accurately assess its impact

[dry bane]

PG levels of strong, ik

nuts

[amber snow]

no, more

if you claim the character this guy learnt

you get executed almost instantly

[dry bane]

oh true

so all tf are just gonna be lieing through their teeth

they wont ever full claim the character they are unless certain they are that

[dry bane]

anyways still stand by this

[dry bane]

2nd one i like, although its funny cause i had a very similar idea for the Bloodnote (now the Orchestrator) until i decided loud safety net funny

it was If a Townsfolk was executed today, tonight, choose 2 players (not a dead Demon): they swap characters. [+0 to +1 Outsider, you know which]

anyways, i think its alright, although imo itd be annoying to deal with multiple hatter swaps for both good and evil

3rd just feels incredibly weak imo. you can only really guess their exact character if they're confirmed by other players, and your reward is a misreg which wont matter since they're basically confirmed, and also its only as a minion and not the demon

[mossy tangle]

no way thinkerstinker in the homebrewlands? :o

[tepid hearth]

-# i'm working on one too

[amber snow]

i needed a name that explained it

that worked

so yes its here now

[amber snow]

okay hear me out its been a year since i did this almost so how about a second actual release as a treat, on the 1y anniversary

idk what but probably that one character im keeping secret

[dry bane]

by the way @amber snow, whats the expected way players should run the Styx Minion? how often do you see resurrections occuring and what not?

[amber snow]

entirely depends on what evil wants

usually they should communicate the gameplan to you but if they execute themselves with the intention of bluffing prof, fulfill it

if they plan on being dead for a bit and bluff righteous, leave them dead for a bit

if evil doesn't communicate that kind of stuff to the st, styx is far harder to run bc you're not in their heads

[tepid hearth]

Dark it’s 5am what happened

[velvet scaffold]

Above time (05:00 EDT) in your local time · Jun 2, 2025, 9:00 AM

[amber snow]

6:45

i had to wake up 15mins ago to take a pill

chose to just stay up

[tepid hearth]

Ah rip

[dry bane]

ah, alr

[amber snow]

on another note rarely should you resurrect something like a dead evil goon cause itll possibly switch back to good which is styx being an uber thrall

[rustic bison]

me with my suspiciously alchemist shaped styx

[amber snow]

screaming crying throwing up this is too much work

i thought i had less jinxes (which i do. because ive not added half of them to the almanac.)

[amber snow]

progressing

[wet hazel]

Quick question, does the doorman learn the player that was killed or the evil player that caused the extra death?

[amber snow]

killed player

i can reword it

bc ive thought about that being confusing a couple of times

basically since its for death puzzles evil gets a kill but in exchange it tells good exactly where it came from

[wet hazel]

Makes sense

[amber snow]

new wording

Each night*, 1 evil player (evil chooses which) may choose a player: they die. You learn who was chosen.

should do the trick

wait no it shouldnt

Each night*, 1 evil player (evil decides which) may choose a player: they die. You learn who was killed.
there

actually not gonna use killed, gonna use attack, it needs some more love

it also makes it stronger (for good) with protection

Each night*, 1 evil player (evil chooses which) may choose a player: they die. You learn who was attacked.
here we go im happy with this one

[wet hazel]

Ohh so it will still trigger if the person doesn’t die.

[amber snow]

yeah

i think thats kinda a nice incentive for the doorman to not just

[wispy lotus]

that also makes droisoning better

[amber snow]

offer themselves for execution

[wispy lotus]

an attack without a death looks the same as no kill and the doorman learning a good player

[amber snow]

better bluff for evil, better with droison and protection, more incentive to stay alive

overall just a better wording imo

[wet hazel]

It is a cool way to do an info outsider for BMR type scripts

[amber snow]

here it is

[amber snow]

yeah, and thanks to you its better at it now with this wording!

also added the chimneysweep jinx because id forgotten about adding it to the doorman entry

[wispy lotus]

What is the jinx

I know i could easily look this up

But I don’t want to !!

[amber snow]

Only the Demon wakes to choose which, if any, evil uses the Doorman's ability.

[wispy lotus]

Is it only shown as the demon using it?

[amber snow]

what

you arent shown who uses it

[shrewd igloo]

do you learn all players which are attacked?

[wispy lotus]

OH

Im easily confused

[shrewd igloo]

or just the one thats attacked due to the doorman?

[amber snow]

raw probably but the rai is clear enough that i dont really care

[shrewd igloo]

it was confusing to me 🙈

so i asked

[amber snow]

so ill just chalk it up to the lack of almanac 😌

[wispy lotus]

all this time I thought “oh so it’s a push your luck thing for evil, they get extra kills but the doorman learns who was the killer”

[amber snow]

fair but like

i think the point is clear enough that you see who you got killed

[wispy lotus]

I have genuinely thought that was what it was since it’s creation 😭😭

[shrewd igloo]

yee

[amber snow]

yeah thats exactly why i needed to reword it lmao

[shrewd igloo]

it was a thing of: "if this lives, it seems quite rough on good, so maybe it learns the extra info"

[wispy lotus]

this wording is so real

unlike the xaoh

which is fake

and not real

and nobody can ever convince me it is real

[amber snow]

okay im making a super quick htr

that should clear it up

[quick onyx]

oh, i thought till now that it was "you learn the evil player who chose to attack the other player" 💀

[amber snow]

yeah a lot of people thought it but idfk why because "they die & you learn who they are" both refer to the same they

but heyo its worded better now

[silver blaze]

I just get executed d1 right?

like I have to or else evil gets an LM?

[shrewd igloo]

Controlled 1 kpn

[wispy lotus]

hey dark

so uh

i apparently did know and just forgot.

[amber snow]

💀

[amber snow]

okay im gonna make a release today but fair warning i made the character yesterday lmfao

[stray summit]

we really doing the release any% huh

[amber snow]

i think its cool

so yeah

[wispy lotus]

and it has flavour text from the most certifiably gorg person ever sooo

[amber snow]

ture

[amber snow]

okay im ready ill wait for o clock till i do the thing but im pretty sure all the preps are done

Theolog —

-# "I've heard a thousand of stories, weaved a thousand of tales, soared over a thousand of mountains & etched a thousand of stones. There's something beyond stardust, nowhere near an indescribable void; the thousand and first story, tale, mountain and stone."

[Townsfolk]

Each day, visit the Storyteller to learn a topic they believe public discussion should veer towards today.

The Theolog knows what needs to be discussed.

• There's no guidelines for what to show the Theolog, use your best judgement and consider what town is missing on their solve.
• If the Theolog didn't convince town to talk about their topic yesterday, you may need to give it today again if it's still helpful.
• The Theolog's topic can be anything the Storyteller believes town should talk about: Demon candidates, a particular player's info, Outsider count...

How To Run:
Once per day, if the Theolog requests a private chat with you, take them away from the circle so you cannot be overheard. Whisper a topic town should discuss today.

Keep an eye on what is being discussed in town, both privately and publicly, and use that information to make an informed choice on what the Theolog should be pushing for today.

JSON:

    {
        "id": "theolog_darkartistshb",
        "image": [
            "https://i.imgur.com/O6GSneU.png",
            "https://i.imgur.com/1uNzFZ7.png"
        ],
        "name": "Theolog",
        "team": "townsfolk",
        "ability": "Each day, visit the Storyteller to learn a topic they believe public discussion should veer towards today.",
    }

Examples:

Galexy is the Theolog. On the 3rd day, he visits the Storyteller and learns that they should discuss which players are Outsiders. This is because there is a Baron in play.

Dark is the Imp, and is claiming Savant. On the 2nd day, the Theolog visits the Storyteller and learns to discuss Dark's info. This is because it is non-sensical, and Dark will have to back down into another character or claim to have been poisoned.

Tips & Tricks:

• Try to understand why you got told to talk about what you got told, as it most likely has a reason.
• Make sure you get town to talk about what you got told to talk about, if you want to have your character be relevant, you really need to be running the conversation.
• The more you get away with running town, the more evil will want to take you out, if you can find a protection role, make sure they trust you and protect you.