#I Vizier Trouble (V2)

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exotic trout
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New version of my previous script, removed the Gollem and Gossip, and added a sailor and Mutant for now. Should I also add fabled Gardener, or leave it random whether or not the Vizier is in play?

Still looking for balancing issue in the script and feedback on possible swaps in character, might a Goon be added instead of the mutant? or should I use another minion for the poisener? I personally chose not to add Devils Advocate or Baron/Godfather as does I feel would be too much with either making 5 outsiders combo likely (Baron + Fang gu) or the DA being potentially to OP along side the Vizier in manipulating executions. Could the DA actually be a good option here or should i leave minions as it is now?

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junior mirage
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Balloonist doesn't feel great on this script - both Poisoner and Vortox severely screw it over

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Not sure I entirely vibe with Sailor, Pacifist, and Lleech being the only (non-Vizier) ways to survive execution either

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Pukka + Monk also feels terrible for the evil team since the Monk has two chances to save

exotic trout
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Could swapping the Monk for a Tea lady give some utility towards surviving execution? And what would be a good info role to use instead of balloonist?

junior mirage
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If you're putting in TL I think you kinda have to put a D/A in that way execution survival isn't hard confirmed

exotic trout
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I think i will take out the Monk, Leech and Poisener. Replace them with Thee Lady and Devil's Advocate and a different Demon. What demon would mesh well with the current list of characters you all think?

clear leaf
cunning warren
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Exorcist counters Vortox in a not fun way

exotic trout
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Had to take DA out, after feedback it seemed not to mesh well with the Vizier acording to the ST that ran the script. Currently have 2 versions, one with No Dashi as 4th demon, and one with Yaggababble. Also removed the Monk and Phillo to add in a alchemist and tea lady.

cunning warren
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Did you remove Tea Lady ehen you removed DA?

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Also what did you replace DA with?

exotic trout
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harpy i think

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i think tea lady can still be good even without DA, usualy demons kill into tea lady suspect first chance the get so its not like one day of not executing is a terrible thing for a Tea lady as they can then confirm themselves as good in some way.

junior mirage
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That’s immensely powerful

exotic trout
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Decided to change tea lady into a washerwomen, it can also act as a good demon bluff, and while being a good first night info role, it doesn't have the above downside of being to easily confirmed good.

cunning warren
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Between Dreamer, Cannibal, Undertaker, and Washerwoman, the script desperately wants a Spy
Also Cannibal and Undertaker are redundant
Balloonist+Recluse sucks for Balloonist
Why do you have Sailor and Pacifist when the only evil way to survive execution is Vizier, who is announced to everyone?
Exorcist Vortox is very unfun for Vortox (and Exorcist is op on this script when the only other way to not die at night is pukka whiff and sailor

lament chasm
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Sailor would probably be better to be replaced by fool if you want exe survival, sailor works better with more exe survival whilst fool can be better as the only exe survival

cunning warren
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I think they need investigator if they want exe survival to work on this script without DA or Lleech