✦ Homebrews By Luis ✦ (Nerdy Meet-cute)

[steel hinge]

well snv has power

if you focus on the power you get tomb and if you focus on the socials and throwing away occams razor you get midnight

[mild grotto]

I could write a lot about this and will one day

But SnV’s character foil is GoS and I’ll stand by that

[steel hinge]

im of the opinion snv is the tutorial to all 3 of them

and the tutorial to craziness

[mild grotto]

There’s some truth there

[flint crest]

one time i lost cause i accidentally killed my new snake-charmed demon as witch :(

[jagged frost]

All i'm going to say

is that the wait will be worth it

💀

[mild grotto]

Ooh

[jagged frost]

tf

[blazing tinsel]

piper

[quaint sequoia]

yeah there was literally 1 outsider and demon in nyp

[steel hinge]

scottish

[stray otter]

fuck you what no

luis is briish

from briinland

[jagged frost]

they're talking abt the bagpipe lmao

[stray otter]

i know

and im attempting a joke

as per "briinland"

[jagged frost]

icl

i think this is my favourite extra character icon so far

[bold tusk]

the hunt fyf

[errant nymph]

omg hunt haiiiii

[sinful igloo]

me when tomorrow will be a good day for a run:

[hoary abyss]

it's giving the rejected Lord of Typhon icon

[jagged frost]

Huh

Ima be so honest

That looks like AI

[jagged frost]

After double checking I can confirm that I have not just used the hunt’s icon

😭

[lyric bramble]

why does it look like it has a pacifier in his mouth 😭

[hoary abyss]

oh man now i want an evil baby demon with a pacifier icon

[steel hinge]

the way the horns curve and overlap with each other feels wrong

also whats with the wrinkles my guy

[chilly linden]

it aint easy being mean

[jagged frost]

Okay so the Notion form actually sucks (shock horror), so use this form instead!
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfDKY7VwmUedpNuUkZ-oZkahqDvIMVinOf066mmzYXIha2tjw/viewform?usp=dialog

[quaint sequoia]

Okay so the Notion~~ form~~ actually sucks (shock horror)

corrected it for you ‼️

[bold tusk]

The name, email, and photo associated with your Google account will be recorded when you upload files and submit this form

oh fuck is it time to fully doxx myself to luis

[gritty ermine]

pulls out alt

[surreal hill]

Simply have an alt that doesn't doxx yourself idk

[jagged frost]

I don’t think I see it? But I could be wrong so just keep that in mind ig

And ofc if you’d rather not use the form, literally just ping me saying “Hey Luis add this rn fr fr fr”

[surreal hill]

It's definitely there

[jagged frost]

Huh

[gritty ermine]

I guess it’s just a thing Google does automatically

[surreal hill]

Yeah

But I'm sure it can be turned off

Actually hmm

No idea

I'm gonna use the alt anyways bc I have no reason not to

[thorn ermine]

it can be turned off in settings i believe

toggle off options like “collect email addresses” or “limit to 1 response”

[stray otter]

i literally just have one account that doxxes me

because theres literally two people with my surnames in spain and one is me and the other is my brother

[jagged frost]

let me check tho

yeah no it saved it

RRRRAAAAGGGHHHHHHH

[surreal hill]

Ok lol

[jagged frost]

You can also email me at [email protected]

[surreal hill]

Ur last name is hbl, doxxed

[jagged frost]

shambles

[surreal hill]

The S stands for shambles

Anyways I wanna try to run necrovitality (will never happen) and then submit it

[jagged frost]

✦ Homebrews By Luis ✦ (No heart line, no sun line, no life line, no need)

[mild grotto]

SHamBLes (SHBL) we did it guys

[stray otter]

thats not behold the grave...

crying

[stray otter]

hbl1 can suck a dick i want hblS(hit)

[north rain]

I be holding this grave for so long that I dunno what to do now 😔

[surreal hill]

Kukalpa still registers as a demon after it's been nommed right

So e.g. a slayer could kill it and the game just continues?

[stray otter]

it doesn't i think...?

or it shouldn't

oh wait

no it should

yeah

[surreal hill]

Cool

The slayer has 2 players they can kill right

[mild grotto]

*role slayer

[vivid verge]

Slayer (Townsfolk) - Trouble Brewing

Once per game, during the day, publicly choose a player: if they are the Demon, they die.

**Affects Setup: **False

[mild grotto]

Kukulpa makes them “the Demon” instead right?

If it’s instead then things get weird

[surreal hill]

Hmmm

Looking through the almanac it doesn't mention the kukalpa's registration at all

Also, if a nommed dead kukalpa becomes drunk does good win on the spot

[stray otter]

kukalpa is a weird character

[surreal hill]

It is indeed

[north rain]

courtier gaming 🔥

[stray otter]

ask luis or check jinxes

[surreal hill]

Ooh yeah jinxes

[red badge]

to my understanding, the Kukalpa passes the Demonhood to their nominee

so the Kukalpa is no longer "the Demon", and that player becomes "The Demon"

[surreal hill]

This soft implies that unjinxed a kukalpa would still proc a banshee? Very soft tho

(is there a better place for jinxes than the json lol)

[stray otter]

the jinxes page

[surreal hill]

Oh I just need to scroll

Oops

Hmmmmmm

[red badge]

to my understanding this isn't the case. Kukalpa is meant to be a more perminant effect, like the transference by the Imp

[surreal hill]

Oooooo nice

[flint crest]

imo i think interactions with droisoners should just be jinxed to avoid confusion, like Scarlet Woman and Fang Gu

[surreal hill]

SW fang gu feels a lot more egregious

That's not a clarification jinx

[flint crest]

i feel like it is - scarlet woman is a safety net minion, not a demon duplicator

[stray otter]

then you need another twenty jinxes 💀

[flint crest]

you say that like its a bad thing

the only persistent effects that droison does not undo are character changes and alignment changes

[blazing tinsel]

but there isn't a clarification

the sw would just simply become a demon

and a new one being createed

there is nothing to clarify

its there to prevent another demon from appearing

[flint crest]

thats ignoring the context a minion presents outside of the exact text its stating

[surreal hill]

Tbf the best precedent we have for this is LM and it's explicitly immune to droison

[flint crest]

ignoring context in general also hurts a shit ton of abilities

[flint crest]

true, although lil monsta isnt a playable character, kukalpa is

kukalpa can be droisoned cause its a player, lil monsta isnt a player

[surreal hill]

Mhm which is why I asked

[flint crest]

RAW means dead droisoned kukalpa loses, RAI means dead droison kukalpa still persists

[blazing tinsel]

but it's an interaction that causes massive issues for other characters, were it isn't jinxed and is (from my experience) ran raw

[flint crest]

its unfortunate but i wish it was a bit more defined in the almanac

[blazing tinsel]

(& we have a wording which would make it work like that)

[jagged frost]

i mean not really, as people have said above

i've added a bullet point in the almanac for you

• If the Kukalpa is drunk, poisoned, or loses their ability, whoever is “the Demon” is still “the Demon”, but if it’s the Kukalpa, nothing happens when they’re nominated.

[surreal hill]

Does the kukalpa get "spent" if nommed while drunk

(and do they still register as a demon)

[jagged frost]

Like the Virgin, if the Kukalpa was droisoned when first nominated by another player, nothing happens and the soul can't get passed anymore

[mild grotto]

No heart line

Hm

Got it

[jagged frost]

obviously the next character is the death rattle right? :wowee:

[mild grotto]

The new character is

x = g(x(t), y(t)) = (16sin^3(t), 13cos(t)-5cos(2t)-2cos(3t)-cos(4t)

For some real number t

Wait “no heart line”

Damn it

[surreal hill]

Makes sense

So about that registration

[jagged frost]

yes

[surreal hill]

If the soul has been passed then how many players would a slayer kill if they shot them

[jagged frost]

The Slayer checks for Demons not "the Demon"

[surreal hill]

So kukalpa is still fully a demon

[jagged frost]

therefore anyone who registers as a Demon counts

[surreal hill]

Perfect

[jagged frost]

mhm

[surreal hill]

Just not the demon that matters

[jagged frost]

so you'd have the scarlet woman shenanigans of "uhhhhh why hasn't the game ended"

[surreal hill]

Nice

[stray otter]

dont you add maths to this too

luis wanting to add linalg is enough

[jagged frost]

i stand by the real inf-space conjecture

[stray otter]

how bout you stand by

the new years pack conjecture

[jagged frost]

https://tenor.com/view/bebe-gif-5526812072482676565

[surreal hill]

Every time I see that gif I wonder how and why it was made

Like, i sure hope that's computer graphics, but it doesn't really look like it

And also

why

[lyric bramble]

it's known to be ai generated.

or so i've heard.

[surreal hill]

Oh that'll do it

[lyric bramble]

-# i stand by that it's one of the only funny ai generated memes.

[jagged frost]

I'M TRYING

😭

[stray otter]

i know i know its okay

[jagged frost]

have this in the meantime

[surreal hill]

fabled 👁️👁️

[jagged frost]

✦ Homebrews By Luis ✦ (Finally...)

<t:1749510000:R>...

[mild grotto]

Getting flashbacks to December

[jagged frost]

but this time i've not only got everything ready

but i've also got a plan

so you'll finally get the world's middest characters lmao

10 in the New Years Pack

and 15 in the DLC

[mild grotto]

Very exciting

[jagged frost]

I will say as well

I wanted to have a certain minion in the DLC

But Ice said it was too good to not be a solo release lmao

[mild grotto]

is it the one I think it is

[jagged frost]

Nope

[opaque cloud]

But is it the one I think it is?

[jagged frost]

Its been posted like once

In resident char spam

Lmao

I should definitely playtest it first tho

But it’s either really strong or really weak lmao

[surreal hill]

seraph has these reminders on constellation... feels wrong?

wait those are fetch reminders

im gonna give it a "learns tonight" in my json unless that's like egregiously wrong

[jagged frost]

Lemme check the almanac

which you can do too

[surreal hill]

oh right

redeemed

[jagged frost]

It’s “Redeemed”

Yeah

[surreal hill]

i had it open i simply didnt use it

[jagged frost]

@gritty ermine lady miiiiiisssssttttttt

[red badge]

huh what?

[red badge]

oh yeah, I said this

or rather that it's too cinematic

[jagged frost]

True

Which I then interpreted as “too good”

Bc it’s very VERY Tomby

[red badge]

It's really the kind of character that has to be the center of attention

[jagged frost]

I’m literally tombing it rn

And by “it”, i mean sleep

[red badge]

like you can't have a game with it in play, or even a script with it, where it feels like it's just "another character on the script" in the way that so many characters can

[jagged frost]

It’s basically my answer to Senator/OG

[mild grotto]

first BBBBfP now HBL

what am I gonna do

[jagged frost]

Tbf as much as I like the tomb characters that we have in the NYP and the DLC

Theres a S&V/GoS townsfolk that I really really like

[mild grotto]

Luis its 4am

[modern ferry]

Above time (04:00 EDT) in your local time · Jun 8, 2025, 8:00 AM

[gritty ermine]

Oh oopsies. Apparently I gave it Fetch reminders

Easy fix

[unkempt oriole]

Do I break the tie. That is the question.

[stray otter]

vote minions

[quaint sequoia]

made the tie again 🤭

[jagged frost]

@rough wagon you should vote

[quaint sequoia]

now minions winning I’m gonna remove my vote

[finite fractal]

if it ties they both come out in six months

[jagged frost]

this

if there's a tie then add another 6 months to the wait

[mild grotto]

We’re scarily close to a tie

[lyric bramble]

maybe because it's currently tied.

[stray otter]

people please im begging you vote for minion

[gritty ermine]

votes for the Townsfolk

[stray otter]

id cry

[opaque cloud]

Destroying the tie now

[surreal hill]

i want the tf first so the minion hits harder

but if this is how it has to be 😔

[stray otter]

ive just been itching for these minions to be out

but that makes sense ig

[gritty ermine]

Well it’s a tie

[opaque cloud]

not anymore

[gritty ermine]

ill fix that then

Oh I cant even lmao

[stray otter]

homepoop

[jagged frost]

OKAY

[surreal hill]

hbl release NOW

[jagged frost]

You guys wanted the Minion

this was way too long of a wait

bc like

idk

I wanted to focus on uni?

😭

[mild grotto]

-_-

[quaint sequoia]

l (i have an exam tomorrow and have just started revising bc its midnight)

[jagged frost]

but without further ado

[quaint sequoia]

just do clocktower

[jagged frost]

“This town ain’t big enough for the seven of us…”
Introducing to you, the...

Cowboy

[Minion]

“Each day, you may publicly guess any players’ characters: if all are correct, all die.”

The Cowboy can kill any player who they know.

• Each day, the Cowboy may guess which players are which characters. Immediately after, if all of the guesses were correct, the players that they guessed all die. They do not need to guess every day.
• They must make their guesses publicly, so everyone hears what is guessed, and that the Cowboy is the Cowboy.
• They may guess the characters of any number of players.
• Once a guess is made, the Cowboy cannot change their mind later that day and guess again.
• If even 1 guess is wrong, nothing happens.
• The Cowboy must guess a player’s current character, if it has changed from their original.

How to Run:
Each day, once only, if the Cowboy publicly declares that they wish to use their ability, enter the circle, holding the Grimoire. Allow the Cowboy to guess the characters of any number of players. (Use the INCORRECT reminder if you wish.) If any are incorrect, nothing happens. If all are correct, the guessed players all die – add shrouds to each.

Json:

{
  "id": "cowboy_hblreleased",
  "team": "minion",
  "name": "Cowboy",
  "ability": "Each day, you may publicly guess any players’ characters: if all are correct, all die.",
  "image": [
    "https://i.imgur.com/H8Tbzd2.png",
    "https://i.imgur.com/Ju6SZIA.png"
  ],
  "flavor": "This town ain’t big enough for the seven of us…",
  "reminders": ["Incorrect"],
  "firstNightReminder": "",
  "otherNightReminder": "",
  "firstNight": 0,
  "otherNight": 0,
  "jinxes": [
    {
      "id": "spy",
      "reason": "If the Cowboy is in play, the Spy does not see the Grimoire, until the Cowboy dies."
    },
    {
      "id": "widow",
      "reason": "If the Cowboy is in play, the Widow does not see the Grimoire, until the Cowboy dies."
    }
  ]
}

Jinxes:

Official Characters

• Cowboy and Spy: If the Cowboy is in play, the Spy does not see the Grimoire, until the Cowboy dies.
• Cowboy and Widow: If the Cowboy is in play, the Widow does not see the Grimoire, until the Cowboy dies.

[surreal hill]

Oooooh

[jagged frost]

there's your 1st NYP character lmao

[surreal hill]

Psycho sidegrade? Kinda? It's cool

[jagged frost]

which Haunted has wanted me to show for 6 months

[jagged frost]

in a sense

[clever robin]

3/10 name, does not relate to actual cows

[jagged frost]

the dilemma that Cowboy presents that Psychopath doesn't is that you give up info when killing or otherwise not killing

and ofc there's the psychopath equivalent of "wait until you're certain, and guess all of the alive players"

anyways

the next character will be coming in a sec

[north rain]

yippee this was my nyp favourite

It has so much aura

pew pew pew!!!!

[jagged frost]

r e a l l y?

icl it only gets better from here

😭

[north rain]

it’s cool it goes pew pew pew

[red badge]

That art looks so cool!

[mild grotto]

I’m gonna be honest I didn’t see the vision but I thought about it and it’s really cool

You have a way with that sort of thing

[jagged frost]

i wonder who made it

[clever robin]

should've been a Bandolero

[jagged frost]

damn.

[red badge]

same, I bet they're like, super hot or smth

[jagged frost]

that name fucks lmao

[clever robin]

my point exactly

first it's cowboy, next luis releases the catgirl, when does it end

[red badge]

also I love Cowboy being able to just guess themselves as Cowboy as the entire guess lmao

[jagged frost]

so true

cowboy nuking on final 3 🔥

[plush imp]

PD Cowboy
Truly an exercise in trust

[red badge]

Also ppl keep in mind Cowboy mindgames with stuff like Demon bluffing Cowboy, or Cowboy "confirming" their Demon

if you're not using mindgames, a wrong Cowboy guess can easily gut evil like a fish

[clever robin]

the storyteller claims cowboy and guesses every dead player's character

[red badge]

also Spy and Widow, despite being jinxed with Cowboy, are some of its best interactions imo

[quaint sequoia]

once i run a mirage rule where cerenovus could make someone mad as the cowboy and force fake guesses

very fun

(script sucked ass though 😔)

(ice was the cere 🤭)

[red badge]

like, Widow's ability to poison and send a ping plays nicely with Cowboy... / likewise, Spy's ability to register as good cleans up one of Cowboy's roughest downsides, which is the confirmation of every player they kill / and Cowboy cleans up the downsides of both Widow and Spy because town can't safely out. / Like, Cowboy plays amazingly with Widow and Spy.

Me from, checks notes

last year
-# December, 31st

[jagged frost]

✦ Homebrews By Luis ✦ (The Escapists)

<t:1749513600:R>

[gritty ermine]

Fun Fact: Cowboy is 2 years old

(for those who dont know)

[dense grove]

woh

[jagged frost]

mhm

it's literally ID6 lmao

HBL-M6

[dense grove]

this character fuckin rocks

this actually works rly well for a script I'm currently making

[gritty ermine]

what was ID 1-5?

[jagged frost]

fookan shite

in fact they don't even exist

those pages got deleted

[dense grove]

20 seconds

[jagged frost]

so

time for the 2nd character

that's been collecting dust

“How did I get here? What is my job? Here, let me answer both questions in 2 words.”
Introducing to you, the...

Locksmith

[Townsfolk]

“Each day, you may guess players' characters (not yourself): if all are correct, all can't die tonight.”

The Locksmith protects multiple players, if they know who they are.

• Each day, they may guess which players are which characters. If every guess they made was correct, none of those players will be able to die that night
• They must make their guesses publicly, so everyone hears what is guessed. They may guess as many characters as they wish, and these characters may be different or the same.
• If the Locksmith made correct guesses while drunk or poisoned, but is sober and healthy when one would die, the players still do not die.
• The Locksmith, like the Monk, makes players safe from being killed by the Demon. They are also safe from death caused by Outsiders, Minions, Townsfolk, and Travellers.
• The Locksmith only protects players at night, not the day.

How to Run:
Each day, the Locksmith may publicly claim to be the Locksmith and guess the characters of as many players as they wish. They may not guess their own character. If all are correct, mark each with the Locksmith's SAFE reminders, of which 5 are included. If there are more than 5 protected players, note it with on a phone, or a piece of paper.

If a player marked SAFE would die at night, they stay alive.

At dawn, remove the SAFE reminders.

Json:

{
  "id": "locksmith_hblreleased",
  "team": "townsfolk",
  "name": "Locksmith",
  "ability": "Each day, you may guess players' characters (not yourself): if all are correct, all can't die tonight.",
  "image": [
    "https://i.imgur.com/5uO8623.png",
    "https://i.imgur.com/ubf4qkI.png"
  ],
  "flavor": "How did I get here? What is my job? Here, let me answer both questions in 2 words.",
  "reminders": ["Safe", "Safe", "Safe", "Safe", "Safe"],
  "firstNightReminder": "",
  "otherNightReminder": "",
  "firstNight": 0,
  "otherNight": 0,
  "jinxes": [
    {
      "id": "leviathan",
      "reason": "If the Leviathan is in play, Locksmith-protected players are safe from all evil abilities."
    },
    {
      "id": "matsuraid_hblreleased",
      "reason": "If the Matsuraid is in play, votes for Locksmith-protected players do not count."
    },
    {
      "id": "riot",
      "reason": "If Riot is in play, Locksmith-protected players are safe from all evil abilities."
    }
  ]
}

Jinxes:

Official Characters

• Locksmith and Leviathan: If the Leviathan is in play, Locksmith-protected players are safe from all evil abilities.
• Locksmith and Riot: If the Riot is in play, Locksmith-protected players are safe from all evil abilities.

HBL Characters

• Locksmith and Matsuraid: If the Matsuraid is in play, votes for Locksmith-protected players do not count.

[dense grove]

lmao

[quaint sequoia]

waiiiiiit which cool adorable wonderful stunning cute person made this art they must be so talented fr,,,

[surreal hill]

Wait this is such a funny combo

[dense grove]

locksmith: *guesses a bunch of ppl*
cowboy: thanks *they all die*

[quaint sequoia]

NO

LUIS

THATS THE BAD SCRIPT

[jagged frost]

huh

WHAT

[quaint sequoia]

😭

[jagged frost]

WAIT

what was the good one then

[quaint sequoia]

I NEVER FIXED FOY 😭

[jagged frost]

😭

BRO

[quaint sequoia]

send that in apoc hold on lemme check it

i might have and forgotten

[dense grove]

I do have an idea for Locksmith Cowboy script

[jagged frost]

i'm going to wait to post it before she freaks out

😭

[gritty ermine]

Thats even funnier if they guess everything right except the Cowboy

[quaint sequoia]

genuine HORROR SHOWS w that script,,,

[gritty ermine]

"let me show you how it's done, pardner"

[quaint sequoia]

FoY IS this script 😭

[red badge]

I mean, Luis

if you need one

There is a Cowboy script

[jagged frost]

i mean i will show it

So enjoy this monstrosity lmao

Here is a script to test Cowboy out (in a niche environment)

[quaint sequoia]

i made a title for this?

[jagged frost]

did you?

[quaint sequoia]

yeah 😭

[jagged frost]

oh nice lol

anyways

same time

same place

the next characters

[quaint sequoia]

next drops on the 17th?

[red badge]

the next drop is in 2026

[quaint sequoia]

ugh so true

[jagged frost]

<t:1749596400:R>...

[quaint sequoia]

ohhh

[jagged frost]

✦ Homebrews By Luis ✦ (Stone Angel Birds)

i will say tho

the death protector is really cool

it's got the most "HOLY SHIT" moments during play

[gritty ermine]

Oh absoultely. It's really cool and may see use on an existing HBL script

(i think will but technicalities)

[red badge]

it also by far is the easiest to script with imo, which sounds insane

[rough wagon]

FINALLY

[ornate hemlock]

Luis

I just want you to know

Alhad+Spy+Cowboy

will be incredibly

funny

[gritty ermine]

Why? So you can use the Cowboy to force a triple live in the Al-Had picks before the Spy comes online

Or just the general thing of town not knowing wheter evil knows everything or if the Spy has been blocked by the Cowboy jinx?

[ornate hemlock]

kill cowboy

spy activates

rez cowboy, kill spy

profit

this means nothing

just a bad script combo

but like

jank

[gritty ermine]

Or here's an even worse idea...

Vigor kill the Cowboy. Give them the aforementioned Spy grim

[ornate hemlock]

TRUE

or

even better

Cowboy kills self

swap life/death with spy

profit

d2 win

[gritty ermine]

Like use a Barber swap?

[ornate hemlock]

alhad

cowboy picks live, spy picks die

(can't be sacrificing a demon here)

cowboy kills everyone

[gritty ermine]

Also, heres another cursed combo

Spy Pit Hag Cowboy script

Pit Hag the Spy into the Cowboy

you do need good memorization skills o playing onlien

[ornate hemlock]

oh

Better jinx

[gritty ermine]

just jinx Spy Cowboy to have the new Alch function where you can tell a Spy to not choose too many people

10/10 solution. Trust

[ornate hemlock]

• Cowboy and Spy: If an evil player has seen the Grimoire, the Cowboy may only pick 1 player/character each day.
• Cowboy and Widow: If an evil player has seen the Grimoire, the Cowboy may only pick 1 player/character each day.

could bump it to 2 but yea

[gritty ermine]

implying a good player would ever see the Grimoire in any sane game

[ornate hemlock]

I mean

[gritty ermine]

/j.

[ornate hemlock]

niche barber scenario

recluse got the barber ping

[gritty ermine]

Me when the Psychopath loses their job security & has to file a request to murder someone

[ornate hemlock]

lol

should I ping luis to tell him I made his jinxes better

[ornate hemlock]

bump it to 2 then?

[gritty ermine]

Maybe? But I feel like Luis also had good reason for not doing the 1KPN angle

I suppose he may not have lingered on 2KPN for long? But im not Luis & I cant speak for his thought proccess

[ornate hemlock]

@jagged frost hey I changed your jinxes

[gritty ermine]

Also this just made me realize the most cursed script

Midnight Oasis, but Cowboy instead of Psychopath

(also add a Spy because I forgot idnight Oasis doesnt have one)

Replace Mez or Poisoner with it tp keep Pit Hag Cowboy funsies

[gritty ermine]

Oh and the cherry on top? the script name is High Noon Oasis

[clever robin]

I feel like the kill restriction is just a less interesting dynamic

the way to beat a spy/widow is to be open with your info, and the cowboy punishes that hard

this entirely destroys that dynamic

[ornate hemlock]

huh

insightful

[sharp topaz]

Doesn't this mean you'd have to out the Demon too

Oh wait

Nvm I misunderstood

Thought you had to get every single players correct in the game

But it works like juggler

[flint crest]

both the cowboy and locksmith ones look really cool

i like them alot

[red badge]

Yeah, we discussed very similar jinxes during development and came to similar conclusions

Since Spy and Widow do more than see the Grim, and what they do is very useful in a Cowboy game, it's more important to keep Cowboy scary so that Spy and Widow can pop off more when it's not in play because... c'mon that's awesome

[chilly linden]

https://tenor.com/view/peep-and-the-big-wide-world-quack-deja-vu-i-feel-like-we-just-did-this-peep-and-the-big-wide-world-quack-gif-3500766151619596207

[errant nymph]

Oh by the way for the flavor text, shouldn’t it be 3 words? Since presumably they’re saying “I’m a locksmith” like how the joke goes

[red badge]

How did I get in here? Locksmith
What's my job? Locksmith

-# look I know locksmith is arguably 1 word, but like, it's 2 imo.

[errant nymph]

I’d argue “Locksmith” alone isn’t an answer to the first one, plus the original joke is “I’m a locksmith”

[steel hinge]

well its im a locksmith and im a locksmith

[red badge]

also to pre-emptively explain some other flavor text (bc I think it's a funny way to tease upcoming characters)

1. I know that when you translate it directly it makes no sense, and if you assume what I meant it looks like I'm saying it wrong. It's supposed to be poetic.
2. I know that's not how the mythology technically works, but it's an evil character the point is that they're evil

[jagged frost]

Fight me

[jagged frost]

I considered those jinxes but they don’t really give the right gameplay pattern??? (I.e. worse psychopath)

I’d much rather just add on a clause to include resurrection/character changing

[jagged frost]

No you just pinged me with some jinxes, not better ones

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/577980138155933697/1365711690531995759/Wowee.gif

[jagged frost]

It’s literally flavour text, come on 😭

[stray otter]

btw nyp part 1, truly fire, cowboy and locksmith are awesome

[stray otter]

also save for the one winning the poll rn every other nyp character has fucking awesome art

[jagged frost]

you drew it

Wdym 😭

[stray otter]

fully aware

[stray otter]

i aint staying awake for this (if im awake ill check back in tho)

also y'all theres a tie

again

[jagged frost]

oh you'll be awake lmao

[mild grotto]

yippeee

this class is boring

i’m 25 minutes into a 3 hour lecture wish me luck

[jagged frost]

it's tied again lmao

[red badge]

Christ

[red badge]

Boring classes are so much worse than hard classes ime

[sharp topaz]

oh I just happened to open this when its at 15 seconds left

dont know what the ominous timer is for

[jagged frost]

alright

time for the next release

[sharp topaz]

oh its for that

[jagged frost]

WHO THE FUCK JUST VOTED

[sharp topaz]

wait i didnt vote

nooo

[jagged frost]

I JUST BROKE THE TIE

LMAO

[sharp topaz]

dw ill break it again

[jagged frost]

anyways lmao

[unkempt oriole]

Oh lol it was me

[jagged frost]

let's do Minion finder

[sharp topaz]

uhh i vote for Demon Finder 🔥

[unkempt oriole]

I was breaking the tie

[sharp topaz]

awe

alright

😔

[jagged frost]

“lili li ale. ale li suli”
Introducing to you, the...

Mosaicist

[Townsfolk]

“If the Demon kills you, each night from now on, learn a Minion player & their character.”

The Mosaicist starts putting together who the Minions are when they die.

• When dead, the Mosaicist wakes each night to learn a Minion player and their character.
• They can learn dead Minion players.
• They can learn the same player multiple times.
• If there are no Minions to learn, the Mosaicist learns a ‘0’.
• The Mosaicist only gains this power if they were killed by the Demon. Dying by execution or to a non-Demon ability does not count.
• If the Mosaicist gains their ability, they learn their info on the same night.

How to Run:
If the Mosaicist is killed by the Demon, mark them with the HAS ABILITY reminder. Do not do this if the Mosaicist is killed by the Demon but does not have their ability at that time (due to being drunk or poisoned etc.) or if they are killed by a non-Demon ability.

If the Mosaicist has their ability, then each night, wake them, point to a Minion player & show their character token. If there are no Minions, show a ‘0’. Put them back to sleep.

Json:

{
  "id": "mosaicist_hblreleased",
  "team": "townsfolk",
  "name": "Mosaicist",
  "ability": "If the Demon kills you, each night from now on, learn a Minion player & their character.",
  "image": [
    "https://i.imgur.com/xIgeJXz.png",
    "https://i.imgur.com/sWjxOCP.png"
  ],
  "flavor": "lili li ale. ale li suli",
  "reminders": ["Has Ability"],
  "firstNightReminder": "",
  "otherNightReminder": "If the Demon kills the Mosaicist, the Mosaicist gains their ability. :reminder: If they have their ability, wake the Mosaicist, point at a Minion player & show their character token.",
  "firstNight": 0,
  "otherNight": 56.1,
  "jinxes": [
    {
      "id": "leviathan",
      "reason": "Each night*, the Leviathan chooses an alive player (different to previous nights): a chosen Mosaicist gains their ability but does not die."
    },
    {
      "id": "matsuraid_hblreleased",
      "reason": "If the Matsuraid is in play & the Mosaicist was nominated by an evil player, they gain their ability."
    },
    {
      "id": "riot",
      "reason": "Each night*, the Riot chooses an alive player (different to previous nights): a chosen Mosaicist gains their ability but does not die."
    }
  ]
}

Jinxes:

Official Characters:

• Mosaicist and Leviathan: Each night*, the Leviathan chooses an alive player (different to previous nights): a chosen Mosaicist gains their ability but does not die.
• Mosaicist and Riot: Each night*, the Riot chooses an alive player (different to previous nights): a chosen Mosaicist gains their ability but does not die.

HBL Characters:

• Mosaicist and Matsuraid: If the Matsuraid is in play & the Mosaicist was nominated by an evil player, they gain their ability.

[sharp topaz]

hm

[mild grotto]

ooh fun

[jagged frost]

hm

[red badge]

ni li pona tawa jan ale 🗣️

[sharp topaz]

idk how to feel abt it

its okay

[red badge]

jan pi toki pona li moku pona kepeken ni

[jagged frost]

i mean what about it don't you like

it's a nice and simple demonbane

[quaint sequoia]

once again the cutest person ever made this art ‼️

[sharp topaz]

yeah I mean its okay

I dont dislike it

[jagged frost]

if the issue is flashiness

then 2 things

1. not every character needs to be flashy (see ravenkeeper)
2. the flashiest stuff is being saved so just give it a sec lmao

icl the 1st point is a hill that i'd die on

and that's coming from me, the guy who loves flashy stuff

[flint crest]

iooooo

really cool character

[jagged frost]

-# the difference 💀

[flint crest]

its like sage but less overtly busted

[jagged frost]

speaking of

[quick fern]

monacist when the pit hag starts making good minions 🗣️ 🔥

[jagged frost]

next character in a sec

[flint crest]

sec n violet?

new 14th TF?

real?

[jagged frost]

this is an interaction that i genuinely like lmao

[quick fern]

wait how did i spell it as monacist

wtf is a monacist

[flint crest]

its like buddhism but diet

zero sugar even

[quick fern]

question about how the recluse works:

if the mosaicist learns the recluse, do they have to also learn a minion, or can you be Funny™️ and tell them a demon or tell them "recluse"

[jagged frost]

uuuuuuhhhhhhhhhh

[flint crest]

same as undertaker

[flint crest]

but you cannot tell them demon

only recluse or minion character

[quick fern]

huh
that feels weird

why can you tell them recluse then

[jagged frost]

i mean really

just don't do that

lmao

[sharp topaz]

I just dont know if just direct "Learn an evil player" type stuff is my favorite, feels like it takes away a bit from the social aspect of the game for me and is a little too... linear is the word im looking for I think

[quick fern]

if its a vortox game, can the mosaicist learn a minion as the wrong character? or are they just unable to learn minions at all

[flint crest]

i kinda feel you there, but i also think learning an evil player as a result of baiting the demon is kinda here for an interesting social gameplay

[jagged frost]

"feels like it takes away a bit from the social aspect of the game for me"
i mean you not only have to bait the Demon into killing you, but you have to convince everyone anyway

[quick fern]

which one is that a thumbs up to

[flint crest]

funny enough i almost made a character like this until i did Sauelsuesor for my collection

[jagged frost]

both

you can show a Minion as the wrong character, or you can just show any non-Minion as any Minion

[quaint sequoia]

you can incorrectly learn the seamstress is the baron, but also that the baron is the cerenovus

[gritty ermine]

Yea. Same logic as Vortox Investigator

[flint crest]

yeah, its a bit fucky, but thats just character interactions for you

[jagged frost]

these interactions will be necessary in a sec lmao

[quick fern]

giving the mosaicist a 0 in a solo spy game

[sharp topaz]

yeah this is true, but also all you have to do is convince people, "This person is this minion"

which feels less interactive than other Demonbanes imo

[jagged frost]

i mean

investigator

lmao

[gritty ermine]

That’s learns 2 players

[sharp topaz]

investigator doesnt know which player is the actual minion

[flint crest]

"OH MY GODNESS, A SCARY VORTOX INTERACTION, I MUST ADJUST TO THIS POSTHASTE!"

the evil bootlegger:

[gritty ermine]

1 of which is the Minion and Invest has to solve which

[quick fern]

bounty hunter

[jagged frost]

you think i don't know that?

😭

[mild grotto]

I mean ravenkeeper

[quick fern]

its bounty hunter but it cant learn the demon and it needs to die to the demon to proc

[gritty ermine]

I’m saying you didn’t necessarily address Cellscape’s point, since Mosaicsit knows one player who is evil

[quick fern]

but without the evil tf

[sharp topaz]

they have something social to do with their info once they get it other than convincing people its true

[gritty ermine]

It doesn’t add an evil Tf. That’s a major difference

[flint crest]

i think learning the characters themselves and also learning repeats is also very underrated here

[errant nymph]

And it’s every night, not just when the evil player dies

[quick fern]

clearly we should add [+1 Evil Townsfolk] to mosaicist then

[flint crest]

it can validate that the person was not droisoned through consistent info and very much help to solve worlds

[jagged frost]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-gif-23352642

[flint crest]

dare i say, id like this to replace Sage on SNV honestly

[jagged frost]

well

[flint crest]

(pipedream, ik, but its a really good char)

[sharp topaz]

I dont really like ravenkeeper either 😭

[jagged frost]

you say that

[gritty ermine]

That being said, Mosaicist is like BH in that it does learn evils with a great deal of certainty

[jagged frost]

-# that'll explain it

[quick fern]

it kinda.
goes really poorly with snv demons i think

[gritty ermine]

And to a much lesser extent, VI.

Tho BH is the better comparison tbh

[jagged frost]

time for the next character then

[flint crest]

[quick fern]

but also mosaicist pit hag is really funny so

[gritty ermine]

Occultist

[quick fern]

actually wait mosaicist vigor could actually cook

[jagged frost]

“Anyone's heart can be lighter than a feather, granted the existence of a heavy enough feather.”
Introducing to you, the...

Ka

[Townsfolk]

“If the Demon kills you, each night from now on, you learn if the Demon 1) nominated, 2) was nominated, or 3) both today.”

The Ka watches the Demon if they’re released from their physical form.

• When dead, the Ka wakes each night to learn if a Demon nominated or was nominated that day.
• They do not learn which nominator/nominee was the Demon (if any), just whether or not any Demons nominated or were nominated today.
• If the Demon did not nominate, and wasn’t nominated, the Ka learns a ‘0’.
• If the Demon changes players after the original Demon nominated/was nominated but before the Ka wakes to learn their information, the Ka detects the original Demon.
• If there are two (or more!) Demons, even dead Demons, the Ka detects if any of them nominated or were nominated.
• The Ka only gains this power if they were killed by the Demon. Dying by execution or to a non-Demon ability does not count.
• If the Ka gains their ability, they learn their info on the same night.

How to Run:
Each dawn, remove the NOMINATOR and NOMINEE reminders, if any.

Each day, if any player nominated a Demon, mark the Demon with a NOMINEE reminder. If a Demon nominated a player, mark the Demon with a NOMINATOR reminder.

If the Ka is killed by the Demon, mark them with the HAS ABILITY reminder. Do not do this if the Ka is killed by the Demon but does not have their ability at that time (due to being drunk or poisoned etc.) or if they are killed by a non-Demon ability.

If the Ka has their ability, then each night, wake them. Show one finger if a player is marked NOMINATOR, two if a player is marked NOMINEE, or three if both reminders are in the Grimoire. If neither are, show a ‘0’. Then, put the Ka to sleep. Remove the NOMINATOR and NOMINEE reminders, if any.

Json:

{
  "id": "ka_hblreleased",
  "team": "townsfolk",
  "name": "Ka",
  "ability": "If the Demon kills you, each night from now on, you learn if the Demon 1) nominated, 2) was nominated, or 3) both today.",
  "image": [
    "https://i.imgur.com/i4wCI9x.png",
    "https://i.imgur.com/UtW15sb.png"
  ],
  "flavor": "Anyone's heart can be lighter than a feather, granting the existence of a heavy enough feather.",
  "reminders": ["No Nominated Demons", "Demon Was Nominated", "Has Ability"],
  "firstNightReminder": "",
  "otherNightReminder": "If the Demon kills the Ka, the Ka gains their ability. :reminder: If they have their ability, wake the Ka & show a finger signal.",
  "firstNight": 0,
  "otherNight": 56.2,
  "jinxes": [
    {
      "id": "leviathan",
      "reason": "Each night*, the Leviathan chooses an alive player (different to previous nights): a chosen Ka gains their ability but does not die."
    },
    {
      "id": "matsuraid_hblreleased",
      "reason": "If the Matsuraid is in play & the Ka was nominated by an evil player, they gain their ability."
    },
    {
      "id": "riot",
      "reason": "Each night*, the Riot chooses an alive player (different to previous nights): a chosen Ka gains their ability but does not die."
    }
  ]
}

Jinxes:

Official Characters:

• Ka and Leviathan: Each night*, the Leviathan chooses an alive player (different to previous nights): a chosen Ka gains their ability but does not die.
• Ka and Riot: Each night*, the Riot chooses an alive player (different to previous nights): a chosen Ka gains their ability but does not die.

HBL Characters:

• Ka and Matsuraid: If the Matsuraid is in play & the Ka was nominated by an evil player, they gain their ability.

[quaint sequoia]

all these conversations ab snv keep on going on and on... like a tesselation of conversation... ugh losers </3

[flint crest]

hmmm

[mild grotto]

ooooooh

[sharp topaz]

I like this more

[quick fern]

hey how does this work in legion when theres like 10 demons

[gritty ermine]

Constant yes

[jagged frost]

• "If there are two (or more!) Demons, even dead Demons, the Ka detects if any of them nominated or were nominated."

[quaint sequoia]

dont

[gritty ermine]

Similar to Flowergirl

[quick fern]

(granted why are you putting demonsbane in legion)

[flint crest]

"hey how does this work in legion"

"simple, dont run legion"

"but-"

"dont run legion"

[quick fern]

ka bishop 🔥

[flint crest]

honestly funny

[clever robin]

are you finally releasing all of those characters you plagarised yourself on

[gritty ermine]

NYP is here

[errant nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/but-steel-is-heavier-than-feathers-confused-lost-funny-dumb-gif-11580898

[jagged frost]

nyp is here lmao

[gritty ermine]

6 months off of new year

[quick fern]

(the storyteller is the demon)

[gritty ermine]

Luis deciding he needed to prepare the DLC before the main content released

[jagged frost]

lmao Tomma Tabu go brrrr

[flint crest]

this is also p good. demonsbane demonbait that also feels more fun to interact with than sage

[mild grotto]

yipppeee

thiese are fun

[gritty ermine]

thats not actually why

[mild grotto]

please tell me you have a script for both

[jagged frost]

just you wait

lmao

next character will be released shortly

[sharp topaz]

I do like both of them more than Sage lol

[jagged frost]

talk amongst yourselves lol

[gritty ermine]

Luis should post the script for exactly one second and delete it

See what people can glean from it seeing it for a short burst

[mild grotto]

murmur

murmur

[quaint sequoia]

hurry up and post it or Xaoh becomes real 😡

[mild grotto]

oops what’s that

[sharp topaz]

oh woah

[flint crest]

put it back

[jagged frost]

LMAO

[flint crest]

luis

show the class

what you brought

to show and tell

[quick fern]

i saw tesselate

[sharp topaz]

I saw Ka in there but nothing else 😭

Im too slow a reader rip

[clever robin]

luis needs to release the third copycat character first

[mild grotto]

tessel: omg thanks queen

[modern ferry]

Gave +1 Thanks to @quick fern (current: #606 - 67)

[flint crest]

i scanned a 3rd demonbait demonbane quickly but couldnt read it all in time

[quaint sequoia]

no? there’s no tessellation here…

[red badge]

Bird up

[flint crest]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-up-explode-gif-12105234

[gritty ermine]

Oh fun fact: I wrote the flavor text for the next one

Elluna wrote the Ka flavor text. Ice wrote Mosaicist

[quaint sequoia]

and once again a very cool inspiring funny hillarious gorg icon made the art idk who but its a rumour

[quick fern]

wtf is a ka anyways

what that

[gritty ermine]

Part of the Egyptian mythology of the soul

[flint crest]

bird signal

[red badge]

Egyptian spirit thingy?

[flint crest]

ka-kaw

[gritty ermine]

I dont remeber its exact function but it is part of the soul

[sharp topaz]

its what birds say

[gritty ermine]

Oh also this shitpost makes sense now :)

[red badge]

It's the part that throws hands
-# Egyptians in chat if I am ever disrespectful to your mythology pls lmk

[jagged frost]

okay

[clever robin]

Ka is basically the part of the soul that makes you alive

[gritty ermine]

im legally obligated to mention this isnt the release

[jagged frost]

time for the final character for NYP Part 2

[gritty ermine]

Can I wish for it to be a genie?

[sharp topaz]

what does NYP stand for i am out of the loop

[flint crest]

dont keep us in the dark

[gritty ermine]

Or also Egyptian?

[gritty ermine]

New Year's Pack

[quaint sequoia]

new years pack
(6 months late)

[sharp topaz]

BRO 💀

[jagged frost]

I HAD UNI

[clever robin]

for shame Luis

[mild grotto]

SO HAVE I

[jagged frost]

bro's got priorities

[mild grotto]

I’m still out here brewing

[red badge]

These characters were all ready to release 6 months ago, coming at you live, now!

[clever robin]

you gave these characters to me the day before new years

[jagged frost]

anyways

standby

[sharp topaz]

just wait until next year fr then itll be new years 🙏

[mild grotto]

yeah luis you counted down to midnight and then didnt drop it

I’d say you dropped the ball but you didn’t drop anything

[jagged frost]

this one is my favourite of this part tho

[quaint sequoia]

genuinely this release script was made in september i am allowed to make these jokes

[red badge]

Behind the scenes that's a joke we've made a lot and I think Luis has come to the correct conclusion that that joke in practice would not have been funny

[flint crest]

this next character better be a deltarune reference

[grizzled cipher]

luis for this next release you should release rancher a second time

[mild grotto]

bthe ruh

[flint crest]

or im rioting

[errant nymph]

It would’ve been hilarious

[clever robin]

isn't that just cowboy

[jagged frost]

well...

[mild grotto]

since then I went to uni, failed uni, got a job, lost a job, and got back into uni

what have you been doing

[quick fern]

is it kosher to post stuff from chapter 3 yet

[red badge]

Alr, muting this channel for a few hours, catch y'all later

[quaint sequoia]

no

[mild grotto]

no

[clever robin]

never

[flint crest]

wow

[clever robin]

only the chapter 2 tumblr sexyman

never the chapter 3 one

[quaint sequoia]

you wait 6 months as luis has shown for you

[flint crest]

none of y'all are groovy, only gloopy

[gritty ermine]

the next character is definitely (chap 4 spoilers) ||Titan from Chapter 4||

[jagged frost]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP9mB1sVJz4||

[grizzled cipher]

its glooby. fake fan

[mild grotto]

ohhhhh it’s this character

[jagged frost]

“Do you hear me? I know, it hurts. But the sun will rise again. To the ends of the afterlife... death shall not take you.”
Introducing to you, the...

Guardian

[mild grotto]

very exciting

[jagged frost]

[Townsfolk]

“If the Demon kills you, each night after, learn who & what they attacked. Once per game, choose that they don’t die.”

The Guardian protects from beyond the grave.

• When dead, the Guardian wakes each night to learn the players that the Demon attacked due to their ability & their characters.
• Once per game, the Guardian can choose that the players that the Demon attacked, don’t die.
• The Demon’s victims don’t die until after the Guardian acts (and doesn’t save them).
• The Guardian learns the players in order of death.
• Only the players that the Demon attacked due to their Demon ability count.
• The Guardian only gains this power if they were killed by the Demon. Dying by execution or to a non-Demon ability does not count.
• The Guardian does not act on the same night that they gain their ability.
• The Guardian acts after the Demon’s step in the night, never during.

How to Run:
If the Guardian is killed by the Demon, mark them with the HAS ABILITY reminder. Do not do this if the Guardian is killed by the Demon but does not have their ability at that time (due to being drunk or poisoned etc.) or if they are killed by a non-Demon ability.

If the Guardian has their ability, the Demon wakes as normal, but mark the attacked players with the 1, 2, and 3 reminders instead of the normal DEAD reminders. Then wake the Guardian, point to each marked player and show their character tokens in order. Afterwards, the Guardian either nods their head yes or shakes their head no. Put them to sleep.

If they shook their head no, then the chosen players die as normal – mark them with the Demon’s DEAD reminders.

If they nodded their head yes, then the marked players do not die. Remove all 1, 2, 3, and 4 reminders, and mark the Guardian with the ONCE reminder – from now on, put the Guardian to sleep after showing the attacked players.

Json:

{
  "id": "guardian_hblreleased",
  "team": "townsfolk",
  "name": "Guardian",
  "ability": "If the Demon kills you, each night after, learn who & what they attacked. Once per game, choose that they don’t die.",
  "image": [
    "https://i.imgur.com/Lrv7vsq.png",
    "https://i.imgur.com/LwmrTy2.png"
  ],
  "flavor": "Do you hear me? I know, it hurts. But the sun will rise again. To the ends of the afterlife... death shall not take you.",
  "reminders": ["Has Ability", "1", "2", "3", "Once"],
  "firstNightReminder": "",
  "otherNightReminder": "If the Demon kills the Guardian, the Guardian gains their ability. :reminder: If they have their ability, wake the Guardian & point to the marked players. They either nod their head yes or shake their head no. If they nodded their head yes, the marked players do not die. :reminder: :reminder:",
  "firstNight": 0,
  "otherNight": 49.99,
  "jinxes": [
    {
      "id": "leviathan",
      "reason": "Each night*, the Leviathan chooses an alive good player (different to previous nights): a chosen Guardian gains their ability but does not die. They learn which characters the Leviathan chooses."
    },
    {
      "id": "matsuraid_hblreleased",
      "reason": "If the Matsuraid is in play & the Guardian was nominated by an evil player, they learn the character and alignment of a nominated player each night."
    },
    {
      "id": "riot",
      "reason": "Each night*, the Riot chooses an alive good player (different to previous nights): a chosen Guardian gains their ability but does not die. They learn which characters the Riot chooses."
    }
  ]
}

Jinxes:

Official Characters:

• Guardian and Leviathan: Each night*, the Leviathan chooses an alive good player (different to previous nights): a chosen Guardian gains their ability but does not die. They learn which characters the Leviathan chooses.
• Guardian and Riot: Each night*, the Riot chooses an alive good player (different to previous nights): a chosen Guardian gains their ability but does not die. They learn which characters the Riot chooses.

HBL Characters:

• Guardian and Matsuraid: If the Matsuraid is in play & the Guardian was nominated by an evil player, they learn the character and alignment of a nominated player each night.

[clever robin]

of coruse it's this character, luis just released the same character 3 times and thought we wouldn't notice

[flint crest]

3 fucking demonbait bangers in a row

[gritty ermine]

So this is on IACOT now :)

[clever robin]

for shame

[quaint sequoia]

and this character is replacing mayor on IACOT ‼️

[mild grotto]

yippee

[quaint sequoia]

bestie thats my announcement to make 😭 /j

[gritty ermine]

[jagged frost]

you have no idea how many demonbanes i have lmao

[sharp topaz]

A THIRD?

[quick fern]

guardian learning that the imp starpassed and choosing to protect them from themselves 🔥

[jagged frost]

exactly

[gritty ermine]

Luis decided he really liked the constant Demon bane gimmick

[quaint sequoia]

yeah i definetly didnt think of that before...

[gritty ermine]

And so he made it a trilogy.

[jagged frost]

Here is a script to test these 3 characters out!

[quick fern]

WAIT IMPS ACTUALLY ON THE SCRIPT,

[flint crest]

also guardian feels like a much better fencer to look out for

[quaint sequoia]

luis tesselates, and is therefore a LOSER

[mild grotto]

nooooo pit hag baron drunk

[flint crest]

FISHERMAN

[quaint sequoia]

L

[flint crest]

VORTOX

[sharp topaz]

pithag drunk gotta hurt

[jagged frost]

i will attest to this script slapping

so any changes will be at pyn's discretion lmao
-# as normal

[quaint sequoia]

luis dont slap the script it did nothing wrong?

[quick fern]

guardian vigor is brutal…
unless its the spy :3

[gritty ermine]

This assumes the Vigor killed the Guardian first

[sharp topaz]

yeah thats clever

[clever robin]

now when are you releasing the demons

[gritty ermine]

Which is... a decision you can make

[quaint sequoia]

fun fact: every change to hbl actually goes through me first and not luis

[quick fern]

wait

oh yeah right

if you have a spy why are you killing the guardian

unless you want them to see the spy misregging :3

[sharp topaz]

oh yeah 💀

spy kindaa

[jagged frost]

the final part

[sharp topaz]

idk abt that

[zinc sage]

luis how hard did the script slap you?

[clever robin]

for shame, those demons are cool you should release them now

[jagged frost]

so hard that i filed for a restraining order
(it's great)

Anyways

Part 3 will have 5 characters

[clever robin]

given you already leaked one of those demon after someone accidentally reinvented it

[gritty ermine]

Oh wait... reminer. Was That Demon formally part of NYP? Or is it the DLC?

You know which one I mean

Actually I guess it is DLC

I will also say we are not done with the desert yet

(chap 3) ||Just like the desert board and island desert board Mr. Ant Tenna subjects you to||

[quaint sequoia]

@bold tusk you can now actually run iacot w guardian :)

[flint crest]

https://tenor.com/view/monky-funny-lol-camera-cekrek-gif-17609241

no context

(although ||the camera stuff|| was 100% my fav part of chap3)

(and ||THE MANTLE route||)

[clever robin]

||I wasn't actually that much of a fan of chapter 3||

||chapter 4 was great though||

[flint crest]

wow

mr funny man make you laugh

make you cry

and what you do?

spit in his eye

||i love tenna too much||

[bold tusk]

YEAAAAAAAH

[flint crest]

idk where chap3 hate comes from :(

we got da rolypoly

we got cool secret boss

||and cooler superboss||

[jagged frost]

<t:1749682800:R>...

[quaint sequoia]

im still working through iacot fwiw, there's some things i need to adjust alongside the guardian changes (which you can obviously test out first before it goes live if you wish)

[sharp topaz]

bro is going to re-release the chef lets go

[surreal hill]

Wait ok these are cool

Though mosaicist seems ludicrously powerful?

[clever robin]

mosaicist is just good as far as demonbanes go

[surreal hill]

Has this been addressed, I didn't backread except for the characters themselves

[sharp topaz]

its definitely strong

[surreal hill]

A single night of it feels on par with RK to me

[sharp topaz]

my main concern that I brought up was that it felt too linear, like it ends up doing the same thing

[surreal hill]

Regardless I like the waking pattern (or whatever you wanna call it)

[clever robin]

excepting that it's an RK that can't confirm a strong good player, or find the demon

[jagged frost]

i beg, don't vote for chef

lmao

and if you do, i'll just ignore it

[sharp topaz]

bruh 💀

[jagged frost]

💀

[gritty ermine]

But counterpoint…

[clever robin]

sorry I saw the words "vote" and "chef" and blacked out

[gritty ermine]

[surreal hill]

Chef!!!!!

[sharp topaz]

we gotta vote chef now

[jagged frost]

fucking hell

😭

[surreal hill]

Look I'm pretty sure I know what wizard is and that feels like a good finale

[quaint sequoia]

luis your pleas (dark mention) have done the opposite of your wishes 😔

[surreal hill]

Meanwhile chef is just a silly lil guy

[jagged frost]

but what if i'm just jebating you guys

[gritty ermine]

Dark’s plea causes arbitrary deaths when an Outsider dies during the day

[jagged frost]

what if i actually don't want No Dashii to be voted?

[gritty ermine]

He could be baiting APOC. Theres no guarentee he hasn’t lied to those of us in APOC as well

[clever robin]

look who doesn't love the most well known homebrew minion

[surreal hill]

Not falling for it

[jagged frost]

good

i don't want you to

[gritty ermine]

In which case he’s being a real dirty rat and should apologize to his friends, family, and neighbors

[jagged frost]

I am the Wizard and wish that good wins if and only if they execute me today

(i'm the No Dashii)

[quaint sequoia]

ok :)

[jagged frost]

-# (this is a genuine play that i've made and won due to)

[sharp topaz]

price: your house gets nuked

[jagged frost]

✦ Homebrews By Luis ✦ (New Years Pack: Part 3)

[sharp topaz]

how many parts will there be

[mild grotto]

yeah save the wizard one for last

even if it is overrated

[gritty ermine]

Theres 3 total, but also some DLC

that luis prepared in the 6 months after the new year

[jagged frost]

there's more DLC content than original content lmao

[clever robin]

smh, contain your scope creep

[sharp topaz]

DLC of a DLC

🔥

fork reaction

LMAO

[jagged frost]

well what happened was bc i've been late

i thought i ought to release some more characters

and so i told myself id release about 8 extra

and then i couldn't decide on 2

so it became 9

then i thought, well i might as well make it ten

[clever robin]

which is impressive as additions to a pack of 10

[jagged frost]

then i struggled with 4 so it became 14

and then i struggled w 2 again so it became 15 lmao

[sharp topaz]

you gotta just flip a coin atp 😭

[clever robin]

provable randomness is against the rules

[dense grove]

hmm

Haberdasher feels insane

they learn a knight ping each night?

[surreal hill]

The demon chooses what the ping is

And it's fine with being junked unlike knight

Well, relatively

[stray otter]

i wasn't

[stray otter]

its certainly strong but its somehow not too too cracked

[stray otter]

fucking finally btg lets go

plus one extra boy who may or may not be super cute

[jagged frost]

Fortune Teller:

[dense grove]

FT, who’s on a home script with, a moving demon, very strong misinfo and it’s own built in misinfo?

[stray otter]

haberdasher is strong, yes, but its a mechanical role so any droison messes with it far more than it does with an info role, it cant protect itself, and theres no way you're putting hb on a script without, at least, 1 good-sided or minion-sided killer

and more death protection that gives alternative explanations

like

i feel like youre forgetting minstrel gets a steward ping each day

[jagged frost]

Yeah lmao

[jagged frost]

And this illustrates another point that context matters

We could talk all day about how undertaker is a better oracle on S&V and how oracle is a better undertaker on TB

But the truth is that characters are balanced against themselves and not other characters

Knight is literally the weakest YSK character

This is mathematically true — it creates less bits of entropy than any other ysk

[dense grove]

that’s fair

[jagged frost]

So like

Telling me that HD is a stronger knight is like telling me a Carolina reaper is spicier than water

[dense grove]

(idt that undertaker is better than oracle on SnV bc of Fang Gu Vigot)

[jagged frost]

I mean sure but the general point still stands

[jagged frost]

-# to be clear btw i’d fight this hard if the character wasn’t my own, this idea is just something that I feel strongly about

[stray otter]

i wouldnt no i would

[surreal hill]

Is seraph backwards checking

i.e. if a cannibal noms and executes a seraph does the seraph get the ping

[jagged frost]

uuuuhhhhhhh

hmm

good question

i'd say no

but if there's precedence then i'll change that lmao

[stray otter]

jinx it w canni so we can have philo jinx please itd be hilarious

you could promote hbl as the only collection to have two philo jinxes

[north rain]

I need to think of some philo jinx characters to become a real competitor

[shrewd meadow]

character design is about jinxes and the more jinxes you have the more designed your characters are

it shows maturity

[stray otter]

having one philo jinx is a lot having two would be perfect!!!

think about it!!!!!!

"guys my characters so fucking broken even philosopher needs a jinx with them"

[surreal hill]

There's contradicting precedents, look at gossip and barber for example

So whatever you want really

I think it's marginally better design wise to be backwards checking but also it's really not a big difference

[jagged frost]

yeah sure

it's backwards checking

it's nicer with cannibal so

[surreal hill]

Cool

[plush imp]

Thats why matsuraid is great

[finite fractal]

it also means riot got worse with the rework

[stray otter]

true!

[surreal hill]

the best character in the game is the Djinn that's why they made a whole world cup around it

[stray otter]

@quaint sequoia the file is too big for me to send in apoc

but this is very much luis related and NOT A SHITPOST so it goes here

[surreal hill]

fire

[sinful igloo]

oh this is incredible

[mild grotto]

needs more Luis

[stray otter]

all those sunglasses are luis 😭

[mild grotto]

I know what I said

[quaint sequoia]

this was such a silly suggestion i made

😭😭

[stray otter]

112 of luis' glasses + 20 of luis' face wdym needs more 😭

[quaint sequoia]

it needs my face obvi?

[mild grotto]

I know. what I said

[quaint sequoia]

which is, for context:

[stray otter]

theres your pfp in there somewhere

[stray otter]

SQUALL HOW MANY LUIS' DO YOU WANT

[quaint sequoia]

REALLY OMG

LEMME HUNT

[mild grotto]

more

[stray otter]

warning ive got no clue where it is

[quaint sequoia]

ok I found it immediately

[stray otter]

😭 😭

[stray otter]

oh yeaah i put it there cuz clubs

[quaint sequoia]

very ironic acc

bc

[stray otter]

or whatever theyre called

[quaint sequoia]

the character my pfp js

is actually heavily related to the hearts suit and not clubs 😭😭

ugh mira you did it again <3

[surreal hill]

I did notice that one

[stray otter]

today i will be

because im going to set an alarm bc i wanna see this one

[blazing tinsel]

is there a master json?

[stray otter]

im not sure but each characters wiki entry has its json

[stray otter]

"its still a glass just the wrong kind of glass"

[jagged frost]

There is if you look at the “For Toolmakers” page

It’s in the side bar

ALSO

[quaint sequoia]

omg its best time

[jagged frost]

ITS TIME FOR THE FINAL PART OF THE NEW YEARS PACK…

… in 5 minutes

Bc I’m having food

So give me a sec

[plush imp]

6 months later

[stray otter]

its fine its fine taking 6 months to have food is normal

[north rain]

big borger 🍔

[surreal hill]

yooooo

[north rain]

👉 🍔 👈
👉 💥 👈

[jagged frost]

Nope

[surreal hill]

burgernary supernova

[jagged frost]

Chicken and qoftë

🔥🔥🔥

[north rain]

okay you’re just making up words now

what the fuck is a chicken

[jagged frost]

icl

[stray otter]

shouldve eaten rodent for no particular reason

[jagged frost]

I just deleted what I typed real quick

💀

I got ragebaited SO hard

[stray otter]

bham is a master baiter

[north rain]

teehee

[stray otter]

proud of you bham 😌

[north rain]

thank you thank you :D

[jagged frost]

Literally being like “I’m Albanian???????” But nah it’s bc this guy’s calling chickens gooses

😭

[stray otter]

yes yes we know not entirely british cishet...

[clever robin]

if Luis isn't going to release the nyp then someone else is going to need to do it instead

[jagged frost]

OKAY

SO

let's get this show on the road

[surreal hill]

CHEF

[stray otter]

luis retcon it

[jagged frost]

Chef

Chef = food

food = ratatouille

ratatouille = ...

[stray otter]

food

[surreal hill]

rat

[jagged frost]

“Squeak!”
Introducing to you, the...

Rodent

[Outsider]

“If 1 of your Townsfolk neighbours die, the other is drunk from now on, even if you are dead.”

The Rodent carries the illness of one Townsfolk to another.

• The Rodent’s Townsfolk neighbours are the closest Townsfolk players to them in the clockwise direction, and the anticlockwise direction - Outsiders, Minions, Demons, and Travellers are skipped.
• If one of Rodent’s Townsfolk neighbours die, the Townsfolk neighbour on the other side of the Rodent becomes drunk permanently.
• This happens even if the Rodent dies.
• Both Townsfolk neighbours can make each other drunk. (This is important for characters like the Banshee, Ka, etc.)
• If a Townsfolk who was made drunk to the Rodent, changes character type (due to a Pit-Hag, Summoner, etc.), they become sober.
• If the Rodent changes character (and stops being the Rodent), players that they made drunk, become sober.

How to Run:
If one of Rodent’s Townsfolk neighbours die, the Townsfolk neighbour in the other direction from the Rodent becomes drunk – mark them with a DRUNK reminder. This happens even if the Rodent is dead.