secret thing

[junior knot]

is linguini from ratatouille as the sous chef

[dense moat]

what about ? how do they fit in?

Or & their cake desires?

[fiery sleet]

Those guys can be regulars maybe

Goblin is definitely not working there

Drunk maybe could be idk

[dense moat]

drunk could be like a recurring customer

Goblin goes in to like, put nails in people's food or something

both toenails and metal nails

[junior knot]

is the antagonist health inspector they have to keep hiding things from

[dense moat]

https://tenor.com/view/ratatouille-i-dont-like-food-critic-gif-8636875

[fiery sleet]

is the regular that they actually love seeing bc she's very nice and shares recipes with them and stuff

[junior knot]

is the hot 20 something waitress who's an aspiring actress or smthg

works at the coffee shop next door and comes in to flirt with the waitress on her breaks

is actually the landlord who will occasionally show up to trigger rent desperation side plot shenanigans

and are the busboy and janitor who will occasionally be the focus of an episode with scifi like shenanigans

[dense moat]

shows up in one ep. They claim to be a wizard & the main characters cant agree if theyre real

His boyfirend is the actual & its much more implied he has real magic

[junior knot]

and are the shows "team rocket"

From a chain restaurant trying to get them shut down

[dense moat]

I like this resteraunt sitcom lol

[junior knot]

is the sentient cookware

[dense moat]

except the main characters eat humans, likeable or otherwise

[junior knot]

And is the "doctor" who gets called in to fix it

[junior knot]

It's okay none of these are humans

It's like hazbin hotel or whatever

[dense moat]

What else is the lore of this resteraunt sitcom?

Anyone else or do we figure stuff out for other characters?

[junior knot]

Ok what style is it in

Real actors, animated western, anime?

Claymation

[dense moat]

The question said wacky sitcom, but idk if that actually requires live action or not

I guess it doesn’t?

[junior knot]

Sitcom just requires situational comedy

The medium doesn't technically matter

is the reason they had to cancel their eat X in an hour and it's free challenge

works at a makeup stand in the mail and is actually the random celebrity guest all playing the same role

Why do i feel, lore wise, this is set where the chefs would be minor villains of the week in a superhero type slow

But this is a sitcom on their escapades instead

[dusty thistle]

[12/14] Take one of yesterday's wacky sitcoms and describe how it slowly devolves into a dead serious drama.

[junior knot]

the prison arc after the chefs are caught

it starts joking and funny

until they start to uncover nefarious secrets of the guards

[dusty thistle]

buys out their chain, and quickly proves to be much more competent than or

[fiery sleet]

It immediately becomes dark when we remember the main characters are the two that eat people

Breaking Bread

[dense moat]

is assigned to track & a few other especially powerful Minions. They get masisve body counts, perhaps even herself

the story now revolves around hunting & taking down powerful foes

[hollow oasis]

A wacky conspiracy sitcom about a dude trying to convince a bureaucrat that he owns the farm of a farmer with a cow that when eaten, makes you omniscient

This is of course false.

The dude is a meth addict.

[finite wigeon]

& . The King tries teaching the Choirboy "values" about the world, but in context the King is wrong or the Choirboy needs to use a different lesson in order save the King. The King, however, never questions his own beliefs, often making silly connections in the process.

King: "You should always accept gifts."

Later someone tries to kill the King by poisoning his food. The Choirboy sees this, but the King is oblivious. The Choirboy realizes that you can't accept every gift; people might not always have your best intentions. So, the Choirboy throws out the food, saving the King. The King justifies this whole ordeal by explaining that he accepted the gift, but it never got delivered to him. It was therefore his full and earnest intention to accept and eat the poisoned food that ended up keeping him safe.

[finite wigeon]

So there's this playful "oh you" quality to the idea. The King is a consistently wrong but lovable doof and the Choirboy is a kid who, despite consistently outwitting the King, has a lot of respect for him. But just looking at it from the right angle, there's a lot of very dark directions an idea like that could go.

The most obvious one is that one day the Choirboy follows the King's advice and it leads to one of them dying. Not much to do there.

The Choirboy gets disillusioned with the King. You can do some interesting things here, maybe the CB grows up all that stuff. See the King genuinely struggle in life as a confident old man with just the worst luck.

My favorite idea is that the Choirboy never stops believing in the King tho. You just stretch the idea to it's logical extreme. What if the Choirboy views the King's correctness as some fundamental truth? How does that dependency strain the dynamic. What if the CB starts intentionally forgetting what they learn because the King has to be wise. How far will the Choirboy go, just to prove the King right?

[fallow rapids]

<- toxic yuri

[uneven field]

wasn't mentioned yesterday but for your consideration

is Barry

[junior knot]

** [12/16}:** Create an acrostic for your favorite character.

[coarse fern]

GRATE
OWESOME
LOVLY
EMASING
MARVLOUS

It’s golem style

[fiery sleet]

Very cool
Interesting decision making
Great when solo demon
Outsider modification
Really cool icon
My favorite character
Only so many things I can say about it tbh
Red
This word has too many letters for a punchy acrostic
If you follow the flowchart you might win
Sects & Violets

[dry sluice]

Am I learning about outsiders?
Minions?
Nominators or nominees?
Each night*, I learn... uh...
Something to do with who voted?
Is it a coincidence that I've only learned odd numbers?
Are my numbers code for something??
Cold, cold, cold, cold, cold, cold

[foggy grotto]

Gooning
On
Our
Napkins

im very sorry

[finite wigeon]

Holy shit
Extra extra, someone help me
Really need y'all to work w/ me
Especially you over there,
Tam, you'll kill the Demon!
I can't lie we're
Cooked.

[supple dirge]

Wishes are my expertise
I have the world bend to my will
Zero things beyond my grasp
All things under my control
Ready to hear my wish?
Don't worry, I can pay any cost

[dense moat]

Pretending to be
Imitating you
(E)xperincing your life
Imagining the day I
End your life & take your place

[hollow oasis]

Life is squandered
Enter us
Gaining your trust
Insinuating you should comply
Offer denied
News:Office worker slipped and died

[barren sun]

My lord, I need that bluff more than you.
Alright, so here's the plan:
Storyteller, would you consider killing the
Tinker if-?
Either win day 2 or die a coward
Right, Science! Sure. I love that.
Minstrel Night? Nonsense,
I think it's a Po charge; could anyone
Nominate the alleged Exorcist?
Definitely the best character ever

[grizzled marsh]

Possibility
Of
Lying
In
Their
Interest
Causing
Issues
And
Nowtheyareevilandyoudidntseeitcoming

[vestal knoll]

Petals drift from their
House, branches which
Invite, hold them tight — and what is
Losing but letting go
Of that which is
Sacred to your heart?
Open, they say, the
Philosopher weaves through life with a
Head of metaphors and
Eyes seeing colours the
Rainbow could never imagine.

(aka the shittiest poem i've ever written please don't judge me)
(philosopher is far too long for a good acrostic)

[fallow rapids]

Pray these gilded gallows yield safety for the pure

Ask if any swallows see players who inure

Cast aside the differences if hypothesis aligns

Ignore random advocacy, lest worlds fall apart

Fate the wilted gallows shield, crazy or obscure

Inkling every travaux leads saviours to allure

Set aside the differences if hypothesis aligns

Try to keep hiding for my job’s just stay alive

[fast anchor]

fucking
overhated
overbluffed
loser

[fallow rapids]

poor fool

doesn’t deserve the hate...

[uneven field]

this is what I say to myself in the mirror every evening

[dusty thistle]

I noticed that my favorite character, if you make it an acrostic, can also be used to write a perfect rondeau prime, with the flavor text as the refrain. Strange coinicdence, huh?

Of the many places I have been, and the many places I have seen

Right here, this town, must be my favorite.

Good people, good morning! Listen now and hear it!

All things I share

Now come to bare

Great tales, tricks! A memory you'll know to savor it!

Round and round the handles go, the more you dance the less you know.

Intense, I know, is this scene.

Now that issue, you can surely table it.

Don't listen to that nonsense parrot

Exclaiming their absurd routine.

Round and round the handles go, the more you dance the less you know.

[fallow rapids]

SOIIRGLAINGARIINDER?

strange name, that a leaked GSoE demon?

[dusty thistle]

Try being not on mobile

[fallow rapids]

-# it's the capital letters...

[uneven field]

that's cool lemon

here's mine

Based
And
Redpilled
Outsiders
NOW

[dusty thistle]

Fixed it...

You know, I actually have another favorite, but I don't really want to write an acrostic for them. I can think of a better form for them...

[uneven field]

is anyone's favourite po

that one's quite easy I think

Pissed Off

[dusty thistle]

Power up a charge, then
Off the whole town.

[uneven field]

Pissin'
Ooooo

Portland, Oregon

[dusty thistle]

I'm sure you can figure out that series of reactions!

[uneven field]

pot cake a bow

tea cake a sweetheart?

bond burger

[dusty thistle]

@uneven field You're really close, do you want a hint?

[uneven field]

why am I being toyed with on a tuesday evening

[dusty thistle]

I'll take that as a no

[uneven field]

take it as a I'm not getting the answer

[dusty thistle]

I won't outright tell you, but you can ask for a hint

[uneven field]

power play

[dusty thistle]

It's some combination of your first two guesses

[uneven field]

neither of the two valid combinations mean anything either

[dusty thistle]

Say both of them fast

You'll probably get it in a moment.

[uneven field]

I'm pulling out my ESL card

dog I don't know what the fuck this means

[dusty thistle]

"Tea Cake a bow" or "Take a bow"

It sounded closer in my head.

[uneven field]

that's a stretch

[fiery sleet]

But here's the thing

[coarse fern]

As someone who once lived there I can confirm people do piss on occasion

[dense moat]

12/17: Make an acrostic for your least favorite character now

[cold veldt]

Fool?! :0
Oh.
Oh…
Lame.

(my reaction to seeing the fool icon and then seeing the fool ability)

[coarse fern]

Things I don’t like about Mezepheles that make it way too powerful:
M
Extra evil
Z
Extra evil
P
H
Extra evil
L
Extra evil
S

[dusty thistle]

Zero
Exciting
Actions
Leaving
Only
Tiredness

[dense moat]

Could you stop?
Useless role
Loses with evil
Time wasting nonsense

Loud mouthed
Encouraging others to act out
Always failing
Does your ability ever trigger?
Effectively an Outsider
Really unsatisfying

[foggy grotto]

Can’t
Understand
Lame
Townsfolk

Let’s
Execute
All
Dudes who like playing with Cult Leader
Every
Round

[uneven field]

this one's hard to compose into a legible and sensible order

Ragebait
Introduced to
Offend this
Tr[I absolutely cannot say this word in this server]

[versed junco]

Triskaidecagon?!

[fiery sleet]

A
T
H
E
I
S
T
(I don't believe in acrostics)

[fallow rapids]

The user can break the secret thing question rules. [No acrostics]

i‘m thinking about which character i particularly dislike

oh yeah i have one

Wish to fuck shit up
Ilmao look i can just break the rules now
Zi am going to wish for nonsense and the ST has to do something about it
A
Random bullshit go
DShit happens

[barren sun]

Sooooooo boring. Literally
No ability, but worse.
Id rather be literally anything else
There are funnier ways to help evil
Change it into a Fabled please. I
Hate that guy.

[uneven field]

"No ability, but worse"
Soril when the outsider is an outsider

[warped urchin]

Basically

[barren sun]

I enjoy playing outsiders

I'll butle any day of the week

But Snitch...

[low umbra]

I kinda see what you mean but also the snitch has YSK info so like idk

[dry sluice]

Village
Idiot evil ping with
Zero misinfo... and in return,
I can, uh,
Execute players that good already wants to.
Recuse me from the game please

[dense moat]

The silly thing is I thought this was Virgin for a moment lol

But I misread a few letters

[tough silo]

Most bullshit savant info ever is....

[fiery sleet]

"You are drunk or poisoned" sounds slick, but actually just tells you that the other info must be true (or it's vortox)

[junior knot]

no

you can receive two true statements if you are droisoned

you can also recieve a true and a false statement as well

you just have no guarantees as to the veracity of the non"drunk" statement

[dusty thistle]

You are the Savant OR You are not the Savant. For bonus points do it on a script with no Vortox.

[sinful onyx]

either you are not the savant, or there's no vortox in play

[supple dirge]

I have seen a real savant learn 'there is a vortox in play'

[barren sun]

I love all characters on BOTC, but this one I like the least. I understand the reason why it exists, but I don't have much fun playing it. It's kinda like a Baron, but the reverse feeling

[low umbra]

Yeah that’s fair. I think that in the right meta (good players lying etc) it’s quite interesting to observe town’s behaviour, since you can reasonably assume that a decent number of people backing off bluffs are probably good rather than evil

It’s kinda like butler in the sense of you become the observer of things and use that social info to have additional insights to the game, since that’s all you can really do. It isn’t super interesting but it’s not a blank token imo

[barren sun]

At least one evil player has been selected by another evil player this game / at least one outsider neighbours someone drunk or poisoned
I'm not solving that, and even if I am, is it really worth it? I despise those kind of statements

[karmic rose]

oh I could see that in longtext savant

[low umbra]

It depends on the script and what the implications/how traceable each of those info are (so if it’s specifically lleech or ND, the poisoning is interesting) and if it’s specifically a cerenovus in a 1 minion game, I think it’s interesting

But on SNV the most garbage info is:
The outsider count has been modified / at least one player is poisoned

I’ve used it exactly once as a sort of ‘here’s something to focus on for solving the game’ for a new group because I was encouraging solving the demon type

It’s kind of like newbie fish advice

[barren sun]

Not necessarily those particular statements, but rather the wavelength they are on. Ben for example tends towards those and I don't really like them. What's even more, I recall a game where the savant lived till final 3 and Ben didn't want them to have that much info, so gave them 2 random useless facts. Patters on the other hand is music to my ears when it comes to savant (A is the demon / B is the demon (A is the lunatic, B is the recluse)).

You know what, this is gonna be today's question.

[18/12] Make up a Savant Statement. You get to make the other pair of someone else's.

[coarse fern]

I see this exact statement set constantly

[coarse fern]

Nobody woke in the night

[low umbra]

‘Hey at least the vigor hasn’t killed a minion yet :p’

I think savant is the sort of character that leans on ST/player trust where the ST wants to know how the player likes to approach the game and then the player needs to trust the ST with the balancing side of things

But the issue is that those two directions often don’t work in harmony and it feels kinda jank sometimes

[karmic rose]

"There are 2 or fewer Townsfolk within 2 steps of you"

[coarse fern]

😭

Give me a sec I can complete this one

[low umbra]

There are 2 or more townsfolk within 2 steps of you

[coarse fern]

“The Snake Charmer chose a minion last night”

[low umbra]

Is that not super strong info?

[karmic rose]

yeah it was info Vati bluffed once (and it has followed him around in other games because it's really funny to reuse Savant statements between games)

[coarse fern]

It was in fact funny

And also it was in fact strong

[low umbra]

Idk how to synthesise savant info without a grim in front of me ngl

[coarse fern]

It depends a lot on where the savant is sitting

[karmic rose]

true

[low umbra]

Or at least a game environment to base info from

[karmic rose]

this was also in a longtext context, where I find it much more difficult as an ST to come up with Savant information that doesn't break the game wide open

[lost thistle]

There are no dead Outsiders

[coarse fern]

Similarly to Balloonist it pings off of “townsfolk / not townsfolk” so if it’s sat next to a bunch of outsider claims you end up confirming 1 player as “not a minion probably”

[barren sun]

There is a sober and healthy Oracle

[dusty thistle]

I have slept with both your neighbors OR

[karmic rose]

I was the one who stole your phone cable last session

[dry sluice]

Either the Mutant has claimed entirely correct info, OR

[low umbra]

A minion’s neighbour is poisoned

[fallow rapids]

this is going to be the secret-thing savant meme for ever isn’t it

[next marlin]

It was OP on purpose because I was the philo poli on a no dashii script trying to get all my neighbours killed

[dusty thistle]

I mean, we already have the cannibal meme, so now we also have a savant meme.

[versed junco]

Tomorrow's question will be to make more memes

[acoustic chasm]

The Seamstress has chosen a Minion
Or

[fiery sleet]

The Seamstress has chosen the Demon

[versed junco]

You are drunk
Or

[dusty thistle]

You are poisoned

[acoustic chasm]

What a wonderful set of statements

[versed junco]

The devious No Dashii:

[junior knot]

There is no war in Ba Sing Se

Or

[acoustic chasm]

There is no war in Ba Sing Se

[fiery sleet]

The Amnesiac's ability is "Each night*, pick a player. Then pick another player you've not picked before. They both become a Crab. Only crab nominations on you can kill you. If you pick a crab at night for a second time they become a super crab. Only 1 minion can be a super crab. If a super crab nominates a regular crab, that player instantly dies and loses their ghost vote. If a super crab nominates another super crab, both super crabs must engage in roshambo until one player wins. The winning player remains a super crab while the loser reverts back to a regular crab and is ashamed. Each night a crab player may swap seats with an alive neighbour. Each night also pick another player. They receive the grimoire except only 1 role is correct. You are "Mad" that crabs are awesome or you may die. If a player is "Mad" that crabs suck and they neighbour a crab, they may instantly die and lose their dead vote and be asked to leave the room. Each night, pick a player, they die but register as alive. Start knowing any players who received a number 1. Also start by choosing 2 players, they start off as crabs. Crab players lose their previous character ability but are super cool. If a player is executed then during the night they receive an "L". During each day, a good player must be "Mad" that they worship the crab overlord otherwise may evil win the game. If a player is "Mad" that they do not understand how the Big Barnacle's ability works, they may die but cannot leave the game [-Other demons on the script.]"

OR

[junior knot]

Your mother was hamster and your father smelt of elderberries

[dry sluice]

... or the Yaggababble phrase is "What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your “life”. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo."

[acoustic chasm]

here i was thinking i'd get some insights into how people pair savant statements

[junior knot]

Or we're playing BMR

[lost thistle]

The Baron has modified the outsider count outside of setup

OR

[low umbra]

Since when did you think that secret thing was actually for insightful information?

It’s just 95% shitposting

[junior knot]

There has been a good character that saved someone from execution

[lost thistle]

OR

#speculation-and-spoilers id just 95% shitposting

[low umbra]

Wait… did they get 1’ed??

[lost thistle]

The recluse has misregistered to at least two of your previous statements

OR

[modern plume]

or an evil player is sat next- please stop flipping me the bird for Recluse-Savant shenanigans.

[low umbra]

Those are in the wrong order cause you have to make the savant info self-referential

[next marlin]

*role barnacle

[low burrow]

The Big Barnacle (Demon) - Experimental

Each night*, pick a player. Then pick another player you've not picked before. They both become a Crab. Only crab nominations on you can kill you. If you pick a crab at night for a second time they become a super crab. Only 1 minion can be a super crab. If a super crab nominates a regular crab, that player instantly dies and loses their ghost vote. If a super crab nominates another super crab, both super crabs must engage in roshambo until one player wins. The winning player remains a super crab while the loser reverts back to a regular crab and is ashamed. Each night a crab player may swap seats with an alive neighbour. Each night also pick another player. They receive the grimoire except only 1 role is correct. You are "Mad" that crabs are awesome or you may die. If a player is "Mad" that crabs suck and they neighbour a crab, they may instantly die and lose their dead vote and be asked to leave the room. Each night, pick a player, they die but register as alive. Start knowing any players who received a number 1. Also start by choosing 2 players, they start off as crabs. Crab players lose their previous character ability but are super cool. If a player is executed then during the night they receive an "L". During each day, a good player must be "Mad" that they worship the crab overlord otherwise may evil win the game. If a player is "Mad" that they do not understand how the Big Barnacle's ability works, they may die but cannot leave the game [-Other demons on the script.]

**Affects Setup: **True

[fallow rapids]

this is annoying to scroll by on mobile

[versed junco]

sounds like SOMEONE'S being mad crabs suck

[dense moat]

https://tenor.com/view/crab-rave-dancing-dancing-crab-gif-16543314

[lost thistle]

OR

a townsfolk is mad about being an outsider

[junior knot]

https://tenor.com/view/crabs-rave-crab-crab-rave-monstercat-gif-12505997

We are Big Barnacle

[barren sun]

If I ever win the monthly competition you both have just gave me the perfect idea for the prompt

[low umbra]

Absolutely banger. Worship the crab overlord!

[dense moat]

People die when they are killed

OR

[junior knot]

Every sixty seconds in Africa, a minute passes

[fallow rapids]

fine

i scripted big barnacle

can confirm it is very cool

i should. post this in shitposting

[fiery sleet]

12/19: Pick a character and tell us how they'd do in the botc hunger games

[shrewd cloud]

Rue 2.0 (they don’t last very long and it’s pretty tragic)

[coarse fern]

Golem: would get a kill and then eat the poison berries

[dense moat]

Would grab a weapon immediately and start killing everyone

They’d either win gloriously or die from several people teaming up to kill them

[supple dirge]

Slips right out of the gate and dies first

[versed junco]

Well. They'd do well.

[warped urchin]

Someone tries to kill them but they are just so funny it doesn't work

[modern plume]

Fundamentally misunderstood the point. Does surprisingly well, even though they never get sponsors.

[foggy grotto]

I mean technically he wouldn’t win, but neither would anyone else

has infinite respawns but luckily they’re not really trying to win

[pastel prism]

Would be manipulated by the Demon into doing all of the work helping them, and get backstabbed right at the end

[dense moat]

I bet they get tons of parcels sent to them

[versed junco]

Pipe bombs that is

[barren sun]

They'd be Plutarch so not even entering the arena in the 1st place

They are the ones hosting the games

Saw behind some bushes how his close friend / fatherly figure got unfairly and brutally backstabbed by an alleged ally and tried to convince some other contestants into getting revenge. Probably didn't survive until the end though

No one expected him to win but went feral every other night slaughtering all remaining contestants. All with a smile.

[lost thistle]

The hunger games don’t exist, they’re a fictional competition that comes from a tv show.

Anyways places first on hypixel hunger games and thats their answer

[supple dirge]

tries to figure out how the arena works and gets caught up in some machinery and dies

[uneven field]

TV show?

the bible was directed by mel gibson

[uneven field]

would do pretty well on account of they don't need to be anywhere near someone to kill them

[modern plume]

Bringing a sniper rifle to the Hunger Games feels like cheating... which is very in character for the game masters to do, so-

[fallow rapids]

wins, only because if they die someone else becomes Farmer

[uneven field]

only if they die at night, and only good players

[junior knot]

If they survive until the end, it's a decent bet they're pretty good at the game

[severe raven]

knows their probability of survival is close to 0

[tough silo]

Come on dude he locates people everywhere he must be the perfect radar for other people

[uneven field]

I saw something in the news just now and it's funny that this question coincided with it

[uneven field]

[21/12] Pick a user and tell us how they'd do in the botcu hunger games

surely this will not be at all controversial

[warped urchin]

Like

We fight other users of this server or we fighting botc characters

[lost thistle]

i’d win

[barren sun]

I'd hide until only 2 people remain and then keep hiding indefinitely cause I can't kill someone I don't even know. I'd either die of hunger or just accept my hiding spot as my new home for the next month. Then the game masters would force me out and I'd surely die.

[uneven field]

we're fighting each other

[karmic rose]

I'd die about 3 seconds after the cannon goes off

[tough silo]

I think i could survive for a bit, but i think i just be a morning kill

[fiery sleet]

I vaguely know how 2 hunger games (avoid confrontation as much as possible and make yourself look good to sponsors), but I cannot properly survive in the wilderness so I'll probably die to whatever trap the Gamemakers use to corral the tributes towards each other

[fallow rapids]

Let's be real here this would be a shitty hunger games

i will die to bees just because it is funny

[dusty thistle]

I think I might win. I like food so much that-oh wait that's the hungry games.

[dusty thistle]

True. We're BOTC players. We're all complete geeks

[uneven field]

I'm not winning but I'm making it far

i will kill many of you

this is my promise

I'm a chaotic plot device, I'm there to create conflict and then die

[fallow rapids]

i know like. bad taekwondo

this doesn't help me with weapons at all

[brittle bridge]

I would place in the top 5

[dusty thistle]

Anyway, my prediction is I'm dead at cornucopia, within 5 minutes.

[pastel prism]

I'll probably mind my own business on the first day, before randomly deciding to go on a killing spree and then dying

whether i'm actually successful in that killing spree depends on the others, not on me :P

[dusty thistle]

The question here, which one of us is the Rue analogue?

Which one of us exists to die in the most horrific fashion imaginable, all in service of driving the plot forward?

[fallow rapids]

definitely me

[dense moat]

I feel lke Axolator would do well. Mostly justcause she's a friend & I'm biased

(im super dead)

[junior knot]

I feel like axo would be very bad at hiding ngl

[dusty thistle]

If I was betting on someone to win it all, it's got to be nexus.

[coarse fern]

I’d spend the entire game hiding in a cave or a tree or something and then leave, trip on a rock, and die

[hollow oasis]

I would, lose immediately, as small children do not win the hunger games

[uneven field]

I'm killing axo

actually I'm probably not going to target the transfems

one of us has to win

I'm killing coda

and wizard, and lemon

and bosspatz and athebyne for their hubris

[hollow oasis]

wait, no, I would pull a Kevin Mcallister

[finite wigeon]

Athebyne would win

[dusty thistle]

12/22 Pick a character. What holiday gift do they get their friends after suddenly realizing they forgot to buy presents, and how do they obtain them?

[uneven field]

more hashtags makes it smaller

like how I do my questions, I use three hashtags

[dusty thistle]

ah I see

wondeful

I will be sure to remember this trick moving forward

Awww, four does nothing

[uneven field]

there is a limit

[dusty thistle]

Anyway, I'm probably sticking with 0 hashtags for now

[uneven field]

https://tenor.com/view/smilingfriends-boss-tiny-hands-up-season-2-gif-12296056204251662294

[finite wigeon]

Heretic gets them nothing. They have friends, they just hate the holidays and project that onto everyone else

[fiery sleet]

just gives a gift card to their restaurant

[uneven field]

okay wow so we're just calling me out

[lost thistle]

coal

obtained from outsourced labor

[dusty thistle]

I just had a really really good idea for a question from this response

[modern plume]

They show their appreciation for their friends with showing some heart. Not their own heart, of course. As to where they got it from...

[hollow oasis]

Trolls by making pacts with various haitian witches

[fallow rapids]

what the hell...

[uneven field]

someone's gotta do it

[uneven field]

I once gave someone a piece of a heart

it was a pig's

[modern plume]

Eh, the Cannibal wouldn't think a pig's heart would be tasteful.

[fast anchor]

The Honorable Judge

[barren sun]

Fancy writing tools

Flowers

Plain cash disguised as gift cards

Makeup

[barren sun]

What was this bit again? I forgor

[fallow rapids]

is the type of person to have spare curated gifts laying around just in case

[uneven field]

and now for a segment called Real Gifts Cass Has Given To Real People

[fallow rapids]

socks!

[uneven field]

a drawing of a big buff nude frog man with a paragraph on the back detailing how much I appreciate the person

a bottle of wine from the supermarket that is fancy but was actually very heavily discounted

a rather phallic zucchini and some glow in the dark cock rings

a large carton of full fat cream (recipient is lactose intolerant)

a comically large bag of unpeeled peanuts (recipient is cartoonishly fucking rich )

so much fucking salt, like an incredible amount of salt

[next marlin]

funnily enough lactose is in the skim part of milk, cream doesn't have much (this is me coping about my lactose intolerance 24/7)

[uneven field]

(for garden tending use)

[fallow rapids]

these are all significantly more interesting than the presents i receive

[tidal quiver]

I think if you give the magician some poppies... they will uh.. make you disappear

[uneven field]

none of these were christmas gifts by the way, I don't do that

some were birthdays, some were of no particular occasion

[fallow rapids]

recent birthday gifts i have received

casio keyboard
handpan
surround sound speakers
nonfunctional walkman (incredibly saddening)
coffee machine

[uneven field]

I'm a very interesting gal

[fallow rapids]

unfortunately i am a rather one note gal

:badumtss:

[barren sun]

They are way better gifts than the 50 dollar gift card I got last Christmas

[uneven field]

even the zucchini and cock rings?

[fallow rapids]

at least they‘re a good story

i still have a 50 dollar starbucks gift card i don’t use because starbucks is bad

[uneven field]

the zucchini was at the same time as the wine btw, I gave him a gag gift and a real gift

[fiery sleet]

Memorable gifts are peam

[fiery sleet]

"gag" gift you say? 🤨

[uneven field]

I wanted to get him a shovel but it would have had to have been a multiple people pitching in gift and people didn't

[uneven field]

peam

the frog drawing was actually a part two, because the year before I had done the same buff frog + sincere letter combo except the frog had pants on, and I told the recipient I was initially going to draw the frog naked but decided against it, and they gave me the full go ahead for next year

the first drawing itself was a permutation of a cute little drawing that person made for me of a little frog guy holding a flower pot

so really it's a saga

[fallow rapids]

gift that keeps on giving

[uneven field]

it stopped giving at some point

I don't talk to that person anymore, they fucked me up severely

but the drawings were fun

[barren sun]

Man if you are gonna give me 50 dollars to spend on something particular and specific, just give me 50 dollars. At least I get to spend them on whatever I want and not just clothes shops and stuff

[dusty thistle]

[12/23] Sorry about taking two questions in a row, but I just had an idea. The Baron is visited by the ghosts of Christmas past, present, and future. What do the ghosts show the Baron to change their miserly heart?

[sinful onyx]

You are
Good
Snake charmer

[hollow oasis]

You have been

Evil Baron

You are now: Empath 2

(Cut to an image of the future ghost of Christmas flipping them off)

[dense moat]

The ghost of Christmas future is Leviathan destroying the world

The Baron wanted to be rich, not to destroy the world

[hollow oasis]

(The past and present are very annoyed)

[fiery sleet]

The Cerenovus has chosen for you to be mad that you are the Choirboy

[uneven field]

it's very don't look up

[barren sun]

The present ghost tells him he has the baby, and the future shows him his execution if he continues this path of immorality

[versed junco]

In other words they SHOW HIM THE GRAVE

[fallow rapids]

hey you're in my lunatic ping
Forgone, thy baby is not true?

[lucid crag]

You are holding the Lil Monsta
The Cerenovus has made you mad you are the Mutant
You are the Mutant, you are evil

[supple dirge]

[12/24] Merry Christmas eve! What gift would you give to a clocktower character?

[uneven field]

see above

[dusty thistle]

A knife in the back, as that's always what happens.

[fiery sleet]

: A copy of beloved game Blood on the Clocktower

[dense moat]

Winter themed blocks

[barren sun]

an ultra pro gaming spinning desk chair with butt heater and cupholders

[fallow rapids]

a lot of vegan food

[severe raven]

a 15 puzzle

[dusty thistle]

Friendship

[brittle bridge]

some crystals

[uneven field]

[25/12] Where is Ravenswood Bluff, exactly?

getting this in here before anyone can ask a christmas themed question because fuck you

[tepid shard]

On top of a cliff overlooking skagerrak in western sweden

[modern plume]

The Twilight Zone.
Because anywhere remotely close to IRL makes no f*cking sense anyway.

[tough silo]

Australia from a different dimension where britain its Australia

[finite wigeon]

Normal Australia it's just kind of like that

[dusty thistle]

[12/25] Ho ho ho! Season's greetings from your old pal Santa! Can somebody please tell me where exactly Ravenswood Bluff is? I don't remember where it is on this foggy Christmas eve.

[tough silo]

Nonono i mean backwards

[dusty thistle]

Of course Santa! It's 50 miles east of Springfield from the Simpsons!

[uneven field]

and santa uses the American date format, we're led to believe?

[next marlin]

"Santa Claus" is traditionally the American English name for that particular folklore (via the Dutch, presumably) with the British-and-adjacent name being "Father Christmas", though Americanization has kind of overtaken matters in this century
But it's plausible enough for the American folkloric version to use American dates

[uneven field]

it is via the Dutch, they call him Sinterklaas

it's funny that the shorthand is santa, because that just means saint

[barren sun]

Wherever a lie can be told, a bluff can be schemed, and decepcion can be served; there will be the villagers. For a town is not a place, but it's inhabitants. And this one's can be found all throughout the world and all beyond the passage of time.

That or the eye of a Raven, like Whoville is in a Snowflake idk

[uneven field]

I like the cosmic horror idea of ravenswood bluff being an elsewhere dimension stuck in an endless cycle that draws in people history has forgotten and forces them to relive and forget the same massacre over and over again

very white bear

[fallow rapids]

one time Amnesiac remembers everything and has a mental breakdown

[uneven field]

in one of the cycles, the amnesiac's ability is that they unlock all the knowledge of every previous cycle and they just become vegetative on the spot

they see the face of god, and it burns their soul

[modern plume]

"How does this help the Amnesiac?"
" It is a mercy kill "

[uneven field]

I think it's probably one of the most horrifying ways to die actually

[fiery sleet]

12/26: What is each character's comfort food?

[warped urchin]

people

[tidal quiver]

🫵

[warped urchin]

We both took the low hanging fruit I see

[tidal quiver]

look "the honorable judge" always gets you like minimum 4 fire reacts

and I get a little bit of dopamine when I see a fire react

[hollow oasis]

[junior knot]

: The blood sweat and tears of peasants unfortunate enough to work in their sweatshop

[hollow oasis]

(They wanted revenge for the conditions)

[coarse fern]

The honorable judge

Fire reacts please

[dusty thistle]

Brownies*

[dusty thistle]

-# *This joke is not indicative of my real life beliefs

[dry sluice]

vegan buffalo hot wings

[barren sun]

Chocolate cookies

[dense moat]

I’m so glad I started the Honorable Judge bit

(Or half started. I didn’t create the funny answer but I did create the question)

[supple dirge]

beer random people in the street give them

[dusty thistle]

Homemade sausage. They only lost three fingers making it.

[finite wigeon]

Heretic strikes me as someone who'd really like a nice & hearty stew

[uneven field]

heretic's comfort food is just a sandwich filled with everything every religion can't eat

it's got beef, pork, cheese, garlic, onion, shallots, black pudding, eggs

you could offend every major religion with a lot fewer ingredients but it would be a blander sandwich

realistically all you'd need is pork, beef, and blood to hit all of them, so if you just use both animals to make the one black pudding, all you'd need is black pudding

everything else is already covered by the use of meat in general

[modern plume]

Coffee and Amphetamines.
...
-# I'm... sadly not joking from the stories I've heard.

For a more comforting real life fact for a Mathematician, Godel's comfort food was his wife's cooking.
||I lied about comforting, Godel feared being poisoned so much he only trusted food his wife made... he died of starvation when his wife was hospitalized...||

[uneven field]

what the fuck is up with mathematicians

[modern plume]

I should be offended... but you're right...

[uneven field]

I am previously only really familiar with one famous mathematician

and he was the fucking unabomber

do numbers drive you crazy or do crazy people gravitate towards numbers

[fiery sleet]

Both probably

[dusty thistle]

I'm assuming this one is referring to Paul Erdos

[dusty thistle]

Anyway, : milk, honey, bread, and vegetables. And only milk, honey, bread, and vegetables. They actually don't eat anything else.

[karmic rose]

It's also referring to my friend irl who drinks 8-10 shots of espresso a day

[barren sun]

Can anyone explain that one to me?

[dense moat]

#1104980997470171177 message

I asked this question.

[barren sun]

Well that's hilarious

[versed junco]

agreed

[hollow oasis]

Sounds tasty

[uneven field]

the cannibal

[naive flame]

Happy Advanced New year chat

Question of the day:

If characters were to celebrate new year, what would they do?

Ex: Lycanthrope — Petition to Ban Animal Abuse

[steel wraith]

Mayor: Pass celebratory laws
Politician: Shut down celebratory laws

[modern plume]

As one such mathematician, yes. As the only one, sadly no...

[fiery sleet]

Karaoke night

[dusty thistle]

Let the kids out of their tanks.

[uneven field]

I dread to think what celebratory laws might be

[fiery sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn-99-fun-have-gif-15825716

[modern plume]

Likely in reference to celebratory laws in regards to firearms and explosives and their use in celebratory manners (such as fireworks or shooting a gun upwards), with such laws restricting, penalizing, and/or prohibiting usage of firearms and explosives for such purposes.

[uneven field]

that makes more sense than what I was thinking

"it's the holiday season, so to celebrate, I'm outlawing gender affirming care"

[barren sun]

Doesn't really understand the concept but the gave him a flare and seems like he'll be entertained for the next 5 minutes

[dense moat]

Is a bit confused why people celebrate, but is still supportive of their friends

(no I’m not leaning into Reddit Athiest for Athiest)

[dense moat]

: Is celebrating the holiday season by outlawing gender affirming care and putting trans people in jail

[dense moat]

Special holiday date night with

Hosts a party, but has spiked the drinks to give people diarrhea

[fallow rapids]

is serving those drinks

[dense moat]

is also serving those drinks

Making a fresh herbal tea for neighbors

1 of the tea lady’s neighbors (or otherwise came to her house)

Came to the party on leads of a

Is conspicuously not taking any drinks

[severe raven]

because the had too much to drink before coming 😛

[uneven field]

guess

[naive flame]

I can see this as some Leader x Assistant type date

[uneven field]

[28/12] What is 's mutation?

[modern plume]

They're the main character from the The Twilight Zone episode Eye of the Beholder

[dusty thistle]

It changes every time you look at them.

[uneven field]

what if they're just double jointed

[modern plume]

Execute them. No questions asked

[junior knot]

Depends if they're upset about it

[junior knot]

Real answer: heterochromia

[uneven field]

mutant accidentally bends their fingers a little too far back in front of the mayor and gets lynched by an angry mob

[fiery sleet]

Ginger hair

[low umbra]

There’s nothing actually wrong with them ||they’re just shunned because the circus is ableist||

[dusty thistle]

[12/29] What's the best "bad" Amne ability you've ever seen?

Mine was "Each night*, a fabled is added."

[fast anchor]

already mentioned from a previous question, but the John Destroyer

[fallow rapids]

i don’t think i have one i’d call “bad”

one time i did

There is an evil Townsfolk. [No Outsiders]
this is bad because the parts aren’t that related to each other

that’s the only one i can think of rn

[little summit]

I had one in a game of LuF which was, "You are the Demon. You have the Leviathan ability too. [No Demon, +1 Minion]"

I had either to solve my ability in 5 days or randomly get executed and there were three players who didn't want to kill me (me and the evil team) so that was a non-starter

It was an interesting idea though

Maybe without the +1 minion there's something there

[uneven field]

Each night*, choose a living player (not yourself): unless they are the Lleech, they supplant the current Lleech host. Minions learn this.

[versed junco]

don't know if I'd call it "bad" per se, but it was something along the lines of
"You start knowing you have to make animal noises publicly. If you make a bull noise, learn it's a Lord of Typhon game."
Noises I made include: parrot, whale, the lyrics to What Does The Fox Say, the hate speech from I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream
Noises I did not make include: Bull

[uneven field]

axo gave me the AM speech the other day

[dusty thistle]

I meant for Amne abilities that probably weren't the great objectively, but spawned a hilariously good game.

[finite wigeon]

I don't think I'll ever recover from "Each night, choose a player: they register as the opposite alignment to the Leviathan ability."

You know it's bad when the Widow is trying to signal to the Amne what their ability is, and the Amne doesn't believe them because there's no way that's what their ability is

Also yes of course we fucking lost that game by executing a Minion, how did you think that was gonna go down

[foggy grotto]

can’t even remember them all

one of them that was “fun bad” involved the STs waking up every player on n1 individually and asking them for their favorite flavor of ice cream. then each night, the amne picked a flavor of ice cream and learned how many evil players said that was their favorite flavor

[dusty thistle]

That is amazing.

[foggy grotto]

i can’t think of any of the ones that consume me with rage they’re so bad and i think that’s a good thing

[dusty thistle]

Fun bad amnes are what I was looking for anyway.

[karmic rose]

I once ran "Amnesiac is a Demon bluff" where the Pixie also saw Amne

[coarse fern]

I don’t remember the wording but it was token rotation bullshit with a Shabbaloth

So people kept randomly reviving and dying

[lost thistle]

are we allowed to say outsiders from all amne games

because theres some fun ones

[uneven field]

you can say anything

what are they going to do, ban you?

[uneven field]

I bet they could use a bath

[fallow rapids]

ohhh yeah

[finite wigeon]

[12/30] What's something your favorite character hopes to do?

[warped urchin]

World domination

[fallow rapids]

World peace

[coarse fern]

Help

[fallow rapids]

Golem manages to do this very well

[uneven field]

⛓️‍💥 be released

||Prisoner|| when TPI finally releases them

https://tenor.com/view/you-know-how-long-waiting-for-this-channing-tatum-gambit-deadpool3-gif-6843989149509159972

[barren sun]

EN, choose what the Marionette believes they are.
First time I came up with it I forgot to tell the demon who the mario was; then second chance few days ago, the mario got inmeditly pit-hagged into a cerenovus and I had yo go and tell the amne someone had screwed with their ability

[barren sun]

Secret World domination

[uneven field]

it's got to be secret though

[grizzled marsh]

Public world domination

[karmic rose]

a $100 bill in the tip jar and a few days off

[uneven field]

mastermind politician transbian yuri when

[fiery sleet]

Give people nice, refreshing drinks with no side effects whatsoever :)

[finite wigeon]

domination

[versed junco]

Your Mom

[dense moat]

Steal your face & identity

[supple dirge]

Figure out how to wish for more wishes

[lost thistle]

uh

i forgor 💀

[simple crystal]

Help their lovely, innocent neighbor!

[uneven field]

[31/12] Happy New Years! For whatever character you picked yesterday (or any other of your choice), their world is ending. It doesn't necessarily have to be the whole world, the details don't matter, but from a personal perspective everything in the world that matters to your character is about to come crashing down, imminently. We've gone over what they hope to do, but in the sobering shadow of finality, what does your character actually do with the little time they have left?

[shrewd cloud]

Take a nap

[uneven field]

assume they've had enough time to mull over the fact that they and everything they love is about to be erased to be past the point of grief and able to process what they'd like to do with the fleeting moments they have left

[shrewd cloud]

Still take a nap

And relive the best moments of their lives in their dreams

[uneven field]

they are nothing if not consistent

[coarse fern]

smash

[severe raven]

write a prose about the AI uprising
blame the other party
wish their troubles away

[fiery sleet]

wait for them to be reborn in the fountain of youth or whatever's going on there

[uneven field]

I think the drunk would spend all of their last moments with their friends, just having a good time, making sure they know they're appreciated

[finite wigeon]

Tragically destroy the world

[finite wigeon]

oh shit it's working!

[simple crystal]

Finally come to accept themself for who they truly are (evil)

[hollow oasis]

They form a bridge made out of themselves to leave the planet

[fallow rapids]

roll up into a ball and cry

[supple dirge]

Consequences of a wish gone wrong and desperately and unsuccessfully searching for a way to undo it before they get obliterated

[foggy grotto]

so just every wizard game ever then

[fallow rapids]

no that‘s ST’s perspective

[barren sun]

The day is about to end with no executions because everyone suspects the demon is dead. The Tea Lady bluff didn't work. The Assassin self-killed. The Gambler and the Tinker didn't die. No one wants to execute. They tried to nominate the Goon but they came out truthfully and clean.
It's all lost.
Moments before the non-execution, they retire to their office, sit down at their desk and watch the sunset, as the village is doomed to see joy once again. The world won't end and that's too much to handle, so they drown in despair on their chair, watching the sun die as the gallows don't swing this afternoon.

[uneven field]

pretty good one

most of you are not writing in very serious answers to this one, and I do understand why, people like to be silly and uplifting here and that's entirely fair

I think about this a lot, personally

I'm a writer, primarily of tragedies, one of the most prevalent tropes in my work is a character living through the most fulfilling and/or stimulating period of their life, and then everything inevitably crashing down on them because their lifestyle isn't sustainable

so I've had to think about this a lot, how would my characters act when they know they're about to lose everything, and in doing so I've thought about how I'd act in the same scenario, and it's not a very cheerful thought experiment but it is cognitively stimulating

so many people who die young are at least lucky enough to die suddenly, without the need for an impending deadline

but are they better off? are they missing out on prioritising what they really actually want to do before they die because they haven't been sobered by an ultimatum?

is it better to never have to worry about that at the expense of never being given the chance to think through and accomplish your list of bare priorities, or to know you're going to die soon and have the chance to see yourself out the way you like?

so it was really a perfect opportunity for me to ask this question, with the last one being the perfect setup for it and the taste of finality that comes with it being the last question of the year

I think a little discomfort can do you a lot of good, so think about it

[chilly trellis]

He drinks a whiskey drink
He drinks a Vodka drink
He drinks a Lager drink
He drinks a cider drink

[dense moat]

Keep pretending to be someone else anyways

[uneven field]

that sounds like an allegory for something

[heavy sundial]

Fake tries to cast a spell to stop it but fails due to not actually having the witch ability

[dusty thistle]

[1/1] Happy new year! Tell me how was yesterday's character being ruined, and the contrived deus ex machina that saves them.

[simple crystal]

The had just got the demon executed, and was rejoicing when the realization hit them in the stomach: they were tied to the demon whether they liked it or not, and with the demon went their only chance at life. As their world collapsed in on them, and they finally accepted their true nature, they heard a cry in another part of town: Ravenswood Bluff had been harboring a Heretic, one keeping the most dangerous secret imaginable. With that truth revealed, the townsfolk cried out in horror, realizing the demon was the only thing protecting them from obliteration; but the marionette realized that now they could be truly free.

[lost thistle]

are these all just going to be “there was a heretic”

[warped urchin]

Probably

nobody was left to baby sit them but oops there was a heretic

[uneven field]

the great equaliser

[low umbra]

Nobody was left to babysit them, but they never needed babysitting and now are free from the shackles of the pathetic minions

[junior knot]

They got left in a VR game

[finite wigeon]

[2/1] 2 characters walk into a bar...

[warped urchin]

The tinker dies

[junior knot]

The savant files a claim for lacking disability representation

[supple dirge]

and

[foggy grotto]

the third one ducks

[uneven field]

walks into a bar and hits her head

[fallow rapids]

walks into a bar and does metric modulation

[barren sun]

and

https://tenor.com/view/kuzco-emperor-emperors-new-groove-groove-react-gif-15791832637410827712

[lost thistle]

1 walks out

[acoustic chasm]

Has anyone seen the Honorable Judge?

[uneven field]

I ated him

was humgy

[severe raven]

An Investigator and a Soldier walk into a bar. The Investigator is convinced the Soldier is secretly a Baron.

[coarse fern]

walks into it again

He’s a bit stupid

[dense moat]

They neighbor this really funny looking octopus

[barren sun]

and walk into a bar

They work there

[dusty thistle]

and walk into a bar. is not fooled by the trenchcoat.

[steel wraith]

and walk into a bar. They order 1 beers. They order 10 beers. They order 255 beers. They order 10000000000 beers. They order 0 beers. They order -2 beers. They order 3.14159265 beers. They order giasfelfebrehber beers. They order beers. Feeling satisfied, they leave.

walks into a bar. They ask where the bathroom is. The bar explodes.

[dense moat]

Neither walk out

[warped urchin]

Well 3 people should walk out shouldn't they?

[dusty thistle]

& get a free drink and go into the back. (The bar is supposedly closed)

[low umbra]

Right but none of them are the two that were being talked about originally

[junior knot]

how long were they in there? (🤰)

[uneven field]

a walks into a bar, looking to find god

[low umbra]

They only manage to find the cold steel of the bar, hurting their head

[uneven field]

no we've done that one already

[uneven field]

this one's a complete joke but it requires a bit of extrapolation

it's also a reference

[junior knot]

Walks into a bar, but the lyrics don't take em very far

meanwhile Drives a fast car

And rockets up the billboards like a shooting star

[karmic rose]

[1/3]: What's the most common Storytelling mistake you make?

Can be mechanical (letting the Chambermaid choose dead players) or broader (consistently making your Amnesiac abilities slightly too difficult to guess).

I always forget to wake the Butler

[inner gazelle]

Forgetting to togglemarkeddead dead people

[karmic rose]

oh trueeeee

[inner gazelle]

speaking of which

togglemarkeddead b3 smart

[junior knot]

putting the drunk/lunatic/mario in the bag

/j

honestly just probably going a bit faster than i ought to

leading to a bit of sloppiness bc i dont want to keep people waiting

oh and tuning fish/savant /dreamer type stuff appropriately

[supple dirge]

You know what they say, you can tune a piano but you can't tune a fish

[junior knot]

well thats not necesarily true

if you use it as a drumstick type of thing, you can adjust the weight to adjust the timbre

thereby 'tuning' it in a sense

[low umbra]

Being easily convinced a setup or so was evil or good-sided when it was just an (un)fortunate set of circumstances for one team or the other, due to socials and/or player decisions

It’s just a matter of having STed 150+ games and being insecure in myself anyway when running customs. It’s something I’m getting better at and have plenty of evidence to say I know what I’m doing, but it’s still def a thing

[coarse fern]

Forgetting to give / predetermine bluffs

[junior knot]

just run teensies lol

[coarse fern]

Well teensies are worse than fulls

[low umbra]

In terms of common mechanical mistakes, I think my main error is making the drunk VI’s info fit reasonably well with worlds. That character has proven quite tricky for me, despite amne and savant and stuff proving pretty chill lol

[fallow rapids]

the most common ST mistake is moving to customs

you need to continue playing base scripts after you toss customs in there

in earnesty i think i still struggle with keeping the day at a good pace, mostly because there's a voice going in my head saying You're Taking Too Long

[dusty thistle]

Storytelling

[finite wigeon]

I'm being so dead ass, it's probably been about a year since I've actually checked if my Butters are following the rules

[low umbra]

Yeah, I trust my butlers to not be breaking the rules

I think it’s reasonable to do that

Also when they are like ‘fuck I broke the rules’ I can just leave it alone cause they know what they did and also me not reacting (from experience) puts suspicion on the butler anyway

[dense moat]

Probably forgetting that Chambermaid can’t pick dead people

[vague pier]

Forgetting to tell my players their info, because I mentally check them off the checklist in Kibitz without actually processing them

[simple crystal]

(not) Waking up the cannibal 😭

[supple dirge]

Waking the wrong person for evil info and having to rerack

[uneven field]

multiple times now I've accidentally registered the recluse to someone as evil on the same night that the poisoner has poisoned the recluse

it's such a weirdly specific mistake, I don't know why I keep making it

I think I'm better at it now but I'm historically bad with that in general, one of my first games ended with a saint execution and I was already halfway through the grim reveal before I realised the saint was poisoned

reminder tokens are important guys, put them down right as you finish waking someone and not multiple at once after waking a few people, you will suddenly inextricably contract ADHD

[flat lintel]

chambermaid is a good one

[warm gate]

I don't know if it's a mistake per se but the thing that keeps giving me trouble as an ST is coming up with Savant info, and that has a tendency to cause my nights to go much longer than they really ever should

[tidal quiver]

yeah I really struggle with savant info

because, especially for late info, I feel like I have to read into the worlds that are publicly being built and then come up with info that disproves some of them but not all, which is really tough for me given that I'm not good at worldbuilding as a player

[flat lintel]

savant info is so hard

a savant guide could be nice to be honest

[warm gate]

I see people say to like "practice making Savant info and you'll get better at it" but like
that necessitates/assumes you'll run Savant less-than-ideally more than once and I don't want to do that to my players is part of the thing I guess

[fallow rapids]

Savant info is at its most interesting when it isn’t interesting in the moment

Saying something that the Savant doesn’t know what to do with and having it suddenly become relevant is actually one of my favourite parts of Savant

[barren sun]

Forgetting someone's ability affecting the game. Mostly . I've woken up Sages that weren't supposed to die three times now because of her.

[fallow rapids]

Sage / Tea Lady is really funny scriptbuilding

[tidal quiver]

yeah I totally understand the whole "you need to do something and mess it up a bunch before you get good at it" because it applies to lots of things but I don't want like 10 other people to have to deal with my bad savant info multiple times before I get good

[fiery sleet]

Forgetting math doesn't tick from characters that make themselves drunk (VI is the main one, but also sailor/selfdrunk innkeeper etc)

[warm gate]

yeah like
with something like Wizard i get needing time and practice to figure out how to run it and make it balanced because it can do basically anything (and it's coming from a player)
but with Savant and Amne I don't want to subject my players to things that are potentially bad bc that's me as an ST accidentally doing something that ended up not being fun

[grizzled marsh]

Waking the fortune teller before choosing the red herring
Happened twice in the ~5 games i've ran

[sinful onyx]

Dropped the grim

[tough silo]

My most commun one is forgetting giving bluff

[acoustic chasm]

Counting wrong and given evil info to a good player

[karmic rose]

Eh, there's only so much you can do without practice, and part of the social contract of clocktower is allowing your ST to make mistakes within reason

[karmic rose]

I see it in the bucket of playtesting a script or whatnot? Sometimes you run a script/character/setup new to you, and you realize you fucked things to one degree or another. And life goes on! It's probably good practice not to have these games be new player games, but I'd rather participate in playtests that are wonky than close off footholds for new scripts/STs.

[junior knot]

this is what DeF was intended for actually i believe

in terms of running/playtesting/etc things new to you

that you are not comfortable with yet

that you can then learn from

[karmic rose]

I'm not talking about the jumps that DeF requires -- you can give Savant info that is mechanically correct but not quite balanced

[junior knot]

x is the demon or you are the demon

in non heretic/atheist/vortox games

sage ping bb

[karmic rose]

ok so I'm not quite referring to that -- I'm referring to Amne abilities or Savant statements that are bad but not trivially so

[junior knot]

ik i was just doing a bit

the def thing was genuine though

for newer sts reading this and feeling uncomfy

[karmic rose]

The outsider count has not been modified/Exactly one player is poisoned
Dreamer twins in a Vigormortis game
are real games of SnV I've played in! They weren't my most fun games of SnV ever and definitely fall on the end of "foreseeable errors," but I'd happily sit through a few of those if it means I'm no longer the only person in my group capable of storytelling SnV!

[severe raven]

I once forgot to wake the Minions to tell them there was a Damsel

[lost thistle]

"The outsider count has not been modified/Exactly one player is poisoned"
the confirmed vortox savant statement

incredible

oh wait could be vigor

[junior knot]

Could also be vigor or dashii poisoned

[brittle bridge]

the tokens going into the bag
you think it would be easy but so often i accidentally miscount my tokens and put too many in or not enough
or i forget vigor is -1 outsider

[dusty thistle]

This actually confirms not Vortox, as the first statement is true in Vortox.

[foggy grotto]

doesn’t this confirm non-vortox

[lost thistle]

i may be stupid

[foggy grotto]

since the first statement is true in a vortox game

oh hey lemon said it

[junior knot]

are yall not running snv with sentinel

smh

(its actually just exclusively +1 in vigor games only)

[hollow oasis]

ok I might play that imma be so real

[sinful onyx]

isn't that like bad

[dusty thistle]

It's entirely unnecessary

[hollow oasis]

SNV is too goodsided sometimes

[sinful onyx]

what about the other times

you know the times when it's not goodsided

[dusty thistle]

I fear the +2 fang gu

[hollow oasis]

pithag games

[hollow oasis]

then like don't do that

[dusty thistle]

Don't run goodsided bags on base SnV

[sinful onyx]

dunno

[hollow oasis]

I mean actually

no that goes into things I don't like about TB

at least it's an Outsider only issue

"My info doesn't work? lmao I'm poisoned"

[sinful onyx]

id rather run snv with 1 minion become pithag on n2 if not in play

so it fixes no pithag issue

it also buffs et

[hollow oasis]

does it

"You no longer need to execute the twin pair"

[dusty thistle]

Honestly, SnV goodsided is blown wildly out of proportion

Pit Hag isn't even that good compared to Cere

[hollow oasis]

sometimes? I really doubt that

[sinful onyx]

-# i didn't actually run it

also like no, pithag is that good

[dusty thistle]

Don't get me wrong, it's better, but its not that good.

[hollow oasis]

i dunno maybe it's because evil just shits themselves and dies 99% of the time

[dusty thistle]

It's more ET just kinda sucks.

[hollow oasis]

"Guys it's vortox" -in a vortox game

[dusty thistle]

That's why if I'm going to touch SnV, it's swapping ET for Widow.

[hollow oasis]

swap dreamer and clockmaker

[sinful onyx]

that's not the touch

[fallow rapids]

Evil Twin is great

just not very good on SNV

[dusty thistle]

I'm probably not going to touch SnV

[hollow oasis]

I swear, TB teaches some bad habits

[sinful onyx]

widow doesn't quite work on snv cuz eh
it does different things

witch and cere give town less exe

while widow make the game closer to TB

[fallow rapids]

there's going to have to be more semiloud minions for a good SNV minion swap to be possible

[hollow oasis]

wizard

[dusty thistle]

It's more ET is the red-headed step kid, and Widow is slightly less red-headed

[sinful onyx]

there are many ways to buff evil and i don't want "make the game more like TB" as an option on snv

[fallow rapids]

Wizard is not the kind of minion for SNV

[hollow oasis]

sure it is

[sinful onyx]

i think i mentioned boomdandy before

[dusty thistle]

That's a bad idea and you know it.

[sinful onyx]

and i still think it's better than other options

[dusty thistle]

That's proxy loud.

[sinful onyx]

that's fine

[hollow oasis]

maybe it's because I'm thinking of it from a "I am the wizard" perspective

[sinful onyx]

boomdandy proxy loud isn't even like super harmful

[hollow oasis]

my wizard works on SNV

[dusty thistle]

I think you and beardy are the only two people who do that.

[hollow oasis]

average wizard shits themselves and dies

[hollow oasis]

do what

[sinful onyx]

wizard works on snv if you ban misinfo wizard

[dusty thistle]

Public wizard wishes.

[hollow oasis]

"The cost is a widow ping"

[hollow oasis]

wasn't referring to that actually

[sinful onyx]

why not just like harpy

[hollow oasis]

I was referring to "Widow ping wincons"

[hollow oasis]

because harpy is ass d1

[dusty thistle]

The pings are a bit slow on SnV.

[sinful onyx]

dunno

this person reads evil

[hollow oasis]

and honestly, harpy tends to be "Cere+"

[sinful onyx]

sounds fine

[dusty thistle]

Like it's just SC, which just use a Cere at that point

[hollow oasis]

pretty shitty madness

and telegraphed to hell

[sinful onyx]

it works if town doesn't do sac the clockmaker d1 meta

[hollow oasis]

which is kind of valid

[dusty thistle]

It can be good, but you need justification for that. Explain how they're acting out of character.

[hollow oasis]

remove clockmaker

[sinful onyx]

bc either you do that or you do d1 vibe exe meta

harpy works in d1 vibe exe meta

[hollow oasis]

there's no explanation until voting

not a good one anyway

[dusty thistle]

"This person normally hard claims, but they didn't! They're probably a minion!"

It's difficult though

[sinful onyx]

and it's pretty available if you like remove clock

why not

[hollow oasis]

Like

[dusty thistle]

Clock is fine on SnV guys.

[sinful onyx]

if it's not harpy then i'd again root for bdandy on snv

[dusty thistle]

Mostly fine

[hollow oasis]

no

[sinful onyx]

it's better than the bad ones

[dusty thistle]

Vortox hits it really hard

[hollow oasis]

Look I hardsolved a game once ON THE CLOCKMAKER INFO ALONE.

[dusty thistle]

Right?

[hollow oasis]

it was a VORTOX game

2 MINION

NO EVIL TWIN

[sinful onyx]

that sounds like evil played ass

[hollow oasis]

I used Votes,Clockmaker,and minion activity

[dusty thistle]

Ok, tell me that story

[junior knot]

** [1/4]:** What would you change about b3 if you could go back in time?

[hollow oasis]

that's it

[dusty thistle]

Because that's just impossible

I'm sorry, but it is

There's something not being told here

[hollow oasis]

I was like math infinite 0?

[dusty thistle]

Ok, so your ST is shit

[hollow oasis]

I genuinely didn't use anything else

[dusty thistle]

And you definitely didn't solve it on just the Clock info

[sinful onyx]

i'd release TT alongside with b3 to attract mafia and werewolf players

[hollow oasis]

trust me I did

"It's not clock 2"

[sinful onyx]

Tomb is basically werewolf/mafia guys

trust

[hollow oasis]

In fairness I wrote down like every single clockmaker number world

[modern plume]

Rename Drunk & Evil Twin.

I just don't like overloaded terms. That you can have the Drunk and people being drunk, and the idea of Good Evil Twin with Evil good twin is just a bit annoying.

[hollow oasis]

and started crossing them out

I literally wrote "X (Y or Z) (Minion elsewhere)"

[dusty thistle]

Your ST probably didn't know how to do fake math numbers

And there's your issue.

[hollow oasis]

0 spam is valid

Like, the only info math gets in vortox is "Did a YSK wake" and that's it most of the time

[dusty thistle]

The reason clock works I think is you now have to rule out 5 numbers

[hollow oasis]

Clock+ like a basic social read=wins

[dusty thistle]

Ah, votes. Didn't notice that. Evil played sloppy.

You can't be getting caught on votes

[hollow oasis]

the minion activity was the main thing

"Oh huh... the cerenovus stopped acting"

noted, they died

[low umbra]

Specifically change monk to pick each night and protect until dusk. That is it

[hollow oasis]

town didn't even notice that

"Hey guys it's just these 3"

[dusty thistle]

SnV forces evil to run a tight ship

[modern plume]

-# Maybe let's talk about the new question?

[hollow oasis]

maybe that's like 1/100, but damn, I really don't think clockmaker was balanced because of that

[dusty thistle]

Evil did not run a tight ship here. The Cere could've stopped acting early once they noticed you on the case. Or someone else could've bluffed upholding Cere-madness for another day. These are basic counters to minion activity.

This also opens Vigor worlds

[hollow oasis]

SNV: -Clockmaker, -Dreamer, +(2 Each night roles that don't out vortox)

ET is changed to auto-win if the demon is dead and town doesn't execute

BMR: Professor is nerfed: Their pick is rezzed the day after they choose.

[fallow rapids]

BMR but Professor is Bone Collector

it works

[low umbra]

I think Professor works in BMR

[hollow oasis]

Fool is buffed: They get a 3rd life

[dusty thistle]

Just don't choose the gambler

[hollow oasis]

it's really hard to bluff

a proc

even in shab

[low umbra]

I guess that’s true

[fallow rapids]

kinda like virgin

[hollow oasis]

it's also better than virgin

so like

It could use it

(It also makes them want to lie longer)

[dusty thistle]

Just add a sticker to BMR saying "contents under pressure, do not move these characters to other scripts"

[sinful onyx]

what about the good ones

[dusty thistle]

Add a second sticker to minstrel, gossip, innkeeper, and gambler reaffirming this.

[hollow oasis]

and tea lady, and chambermaid, and BMR in general, and

GF

[dusty thistle]

Add a third sticker to minstrel.

[hollow oasis]

add 10 stickers to gossip

2 to grandmother

[sinful onyx]

doesn't gossip like
works

[dusty thistle]

An artist question each day is uh, not easy to mitigate

[hollow oasis]

outside of BMR? you tell me if an "Each day artist that can confirm itself" is balanced

(it's not)

[sinful onyx]

give them worse kills

[hollow oasis]

on probably good players

[sinful onyx]

if gossip want an amount of kills that enough to hard confirm themselves, that'd be hard to achieve by constantly doing 50/50 gossips...

[hollow oasis]

"I am the gossip" -said the entire town

[sinful onyx]

yeah sure

how's like that even op

[dusty thistle]

One kill is usually enough without sufficient support.

[hollow oasis]

well let's see you confirm yourself

for a round of infinite artist questions until you die

even 2 of those is busted

[sinful onyx]

that's why give them worse kills?

[hollow oasis]

that's not enough

[dusty thistle]

Minstrel still probably needs more stickers than gossip tho

[sinful onyx]

also 1 kill is almost never enough to self confirm

unless the script is super bad

[dusty thistle]

So yeah, contents under pressure. Handle with care.

[hollow oasis]

in my BMR experience

Gossip is only "not hard confirmed" because there's like 7 kill comboes

4 is not enough

[dusty thistle]

The sticker should probably now read "Contents under pressure. Move these characters at your own risk."

[hollow oasis]

"The gossip is good in the non-assassin world guaranteed"

Is a problem

[modern plume]

I have Gossip on my script Golden Border of Prester John and I think it works fine. At least from the playtests so far. It has no Assassin.

[hollow oasis]

In fairness, they aren't artist questions

they're mostly steward pings

[hollow oasis]

It also has yag and knows what it's doing

(Nuking the sage, for instance)

[dusty thistle]

Minstrel seems like the #2 offender of "showing up where it shouldn't" with scriptwriters!

[modern plume]

"Know what it's doing" The Yag, The Gossip, or the Script?

[hollow oasis]

the script

[dusty thistle]

#1 is poisoner

[modern plume]

Fair, and thank you

[hollow oasis]

YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID /j

[modern plume]

I had an idea for Minstrel, then a jinx got reworked... now my idea doesn't work as well. =/

[dusty thistle]

Ooh, do tell.

[modern plume]

Minstel, Xaan, Boffin, Alchemist, OG.

Basically town has to figure out when Minstrel nights actually happen against Xaan nights or Demon sinking, and when the Demon themself might have the Minstrel ability thanks to Boffin.

Alchemist-OG actually worked as an interesting 'canary in the coalmines', since they could intentionally keep their ability always active, and know when they are drunk by it shutting off.

But the new jinx removes that possible gameplay element. =/

[hollow oasis]

oh the Alch OG jinx failing

I see....

[dusty thistle]

Ah. Shame.

[hollow oasis]

Have you considered cerenovus?

[dusty thistle]

To be fair, I like the new one more overall, but that's the second time I've seen a change to my favorite character sink an interesting script idea

[warm gate]

oh hey i tried to write a Minstrel/Xaan script a while back! (i haven't touched it in a year)

[modern plume]

The new jinx locks Alchemist-OG as an OG detector and the two playing against each other, which removes the ability of Alchemist to detect if they're sober or not

[hollow oasis]

You can get the same dynamic with cerenovus right

[modern plume]

I suppose so, yeah.

[hollow oasis]

it's just widow ping-ier

[dusty thistle]

That's clever.

It's a bit less damaging to town to take that risk though than OG

[modern plume]

I think Chambermaid works fine as well outside of BMR, just so long as there's enough reason for information to be screwy or people to be lying about their roles, or reasons for Evil to be comfortable bluffing outside their waking pattern.

I have it on Minuit a Fond la Caisse because of how hidden some of the outsiders are and how much the Demons can mess with info.

[sinful onyx]

is nwm too old for this or what

[dusty thistle]

Oh, I have a script that I think works with it, building off vortox to hit it.

[hollow oasis]

boffin

[sinful onyx]

tru

[modern plume]

NWM works well with it, but it's only once per game. The original Alchemist-OG worked every single night as a detector.

[dusty thistle]

Vortox is a great way to run over the chambermaid, since technically it counts as a demon with an odd waking pattern.

[sinful onyx]

i guess then we use the cerewatchman

[fallow rapids]

hey my last script has a functional poisoner

[sinful onyx]

poisoner is not very hard to be functional

the question is why's the script a better not a worse TB

[modern plume]

That's a double negative I think? Hard to understand what was meant here.

[dusty thistle]

Yeah, but how many times have you seen a newbie make a script where poisoner just kills everything.

[sinful onyx]

it means it's not hard to work on scripts

actually

[fallow rapids]

i don't think this is TB

[sinful onyx]

it's just that the scripts are hardly better TB

[fallow rapids]

well it's close enough to TB i guess

[dusty thistle]

You can make it work, but how often have you seen it work?

[sinful onyx]

it really is tb

[dusty thistle]

Invest seems useless here, no?

[sinful onyx]

it's actually not less often that lots of other characters

[fallow rapids]

bootlegger

invest learns an in play minion always

[sinful onyx]

the amt of functional poisoner scripts is not small

[fallow rapids]

unless they're Drunk or whatever

[sinful onyx]

it's just the amt of bad poisoner scripts is big

[dusty thistle]

Oh, nice. That works.

[dusty thistle]

Okay, that's fair. It's still a serial offender in my book since it appears to be ubiquitous.

In an experienced players hands, it's a pretty cool minion, if pound for pound probably tying for strongest in the game.

[hollow oasis]

tying is crazy

it's worse than baron

and pithag

[dusty thistle]

Look, Mez is really really good.

[hollow oasis]

oh wait

you're not talking about poisoner

lol

Mez is the best minion yea

wait

are you

[dusty thistle]

Oh I was saying it ties Mez, though that may be my "this fucks over worldbuilding royally" viewpoint

[hollow oasis]

It's not that good

Baron is still stronger than it

[modern plume]

Mastermind is a great Minion that deserves more love.
It just sadly has like... only three genres of scripts it can be on.

[hollow oasis]

At least it HAS a niche

[fallow rapids]

the best minion is Vizier wth a hiddenjinx and never uses their ability

[hollow oasis]

(Cough) Fearmonger (Cough)

[hollow oasis]

Ok hidden Vizier is peak

[dusty thistle]

I've had the monumentally stupid idea of putting on Riot now.

[fallow rapids]

exactly

[hollow oasis]

especially on my leviathan heretic script

with unjinxed godfather

[dusty thistle]

That's just a psychopath with extra steps.

[fallow rapids]

well yes but it‘s funnier

[hollow oasis]

Vizier should be a psycho sidegrade and not a "losing" sidegrade

[dusty thistle]

Oh not a knock against it, but it is a psychopath with extra steps.

[modern plume]

-# Put Goblin with Fearmonger, Fearmonger could act like they're the Goblin and vice versa, always nominating prominent demon candidates including potentially their own to drive town into fearing the exe even when they have it right.

[sinful onyx]

but fm is loud

[hollow oasis]

I mean

[dusty thistle]

Can we talk about my riot-mm idea?

[sinful onyx]

and it removes goblin worlds constantly

[hollow oasis]

that's just "goblin monte" with extra steps

[modern plume]

LM, Plague Doctor.

[hollow oasis]

if the demon is killed d2?

[modern plume]

Can help

[dusty thistle]

Not an exe

Oh, d2

[fallow rapids]

evil apprentice is the best minion

[hollow oasis]

riot doesn't happen

uh

[sinful onyx]

well riot mm works if demon is killed d1

[dusty thistle]

Uhh... Umm... Uh...

[modern plume]

If it's solo Riot, MM is a bit obvious

[sinful onyx]

eh that's it

it works with a 2nd demon

[dusty thistle]

Yeah, maybe add a hidden leviathan?

[hollow oasis]

anyway town can just not kill the first day rendering it useless

[hollow oasis]

no

[dusty thistle]

But then we hit Leviathan-MM

[hollow oasis]

the counterplay there is "execute d3 and d5 only"

and not d4

[sinful onyx]

yeah but that's bad

[dusty thistle]

Dang it, so much for that idea

[modern plume]

I've had the idea for Leviathan + MM with Heretic, King, and Cerenovus.

If you've executed Leviathan and gone into an MM day... town must execute an Evil player or no one unless it's a Heretic game then they must execute a Good player.

[sinful onyx]

but it still has townsfolk heretic

[modern plume]

Might also require Assassin

So Heretic doesn't just out

It's very strenous with too much needed together to make it work probably, but still a potential idea

[hollow oasis]

Then kill the heretic

[finite wigeon]

Needs Poisoner!

[modern plume]

Cerenovus.

Someone could just be Ceremad

As Heretic