#secret thing
1 messages · Page 50 of 1
There is no reason to play it over BMR
Though I'm building a script with it that works in theory...
Might not be the most balanced script
I've heard some good things about Grimm Chorus, haven't played it though
I think AGC is probably the only one.
i like grimm chorus but i don’t like minstrel on it
any reason why?
i think summoner minstrel is a bad combo
if you execute a minion on d2 evil just instantly loses
I forgot they’re not jinxed wtf
I am a little worried AGC just turns out as worse BMR
oh yeah summoner minstrel seems bad
it’s a distinctly different experience from bmr but it is not as good
i don't like it because nobody talks to me if i'm a twin. it's better to have private chats with other people
just like how nobody talks to the vizier except out of pity
it's a bit of a skill issue tbh
if you execute the summoner, doesn’t the game end? 🙈
If the Summoner is Minstrel-drunk, good insta-wins
because the Summoner is drunk and can't summon a demon
(so the skill issue loss is relevant in 2+ minion games)
even then — you can always summon a Pukka N2 to dodge the potential losscon
yeah that's the script we're talking about
did you think i was referring to summoner/minstrel on a different script?
I thought you were discussing it in general
aaah
I mean there is exactly one full minstrel custom
that we know of
i mean minstrel's on darkest before dawn too just that it's like 3 billion years old and nobody plays it
(also it's like. not good 🙈)
oh it's also on the best script ever, @feral snow's "fuck you said the fuck you guy"
the problem?
Only 12 townsfolk, literally unplayable
Casual +14
this sure is
one of the scripts of all time
Revolutionary fixes everything
choirboy without king,,,,,
oh it's so great
huntsman without damsel,,
it's the drunk token!
Huntsman is too strong here I fear
It relies on adding a losscon to the game
I don't think there is one — it just has all the fabled on it
the bootlegger rule is “fuck you there are 0 valid 15 player kazali setups”
i mean there are, it's just that both have a heretic so evil instawins
rather the kaz wins alone
as the only evil when they selfturn into a Minion
no there’s only 13 good characters you can actually put in the bag
bc drunk doesn’t go in the bag and huntsman and choirboy can’t ever be in
why cant there be a drunk choirboy or huntsman
The 13th is the unreleased ||machinist|| but it’s almost funnier if there’s 12
It’s meant to be as bad as physically possible
If you want a released 13th use engineer
Since when does Minstrel actually work there
I wrote a custom with minstrel a while back and while it's probably too strong (against Typhon) it seems to work well enough
remind me how many times it actually got played
It's untested and also unfinished because I need the tomb to come out so I can use some of its characters
Zero yes I know
I made no definite statement about how well minstrel works there
Just "it seems fine"
Here's the script
Wow who put acro on there that's so weird that someone would do that
As the local expert on Lord of Typhon apparently
Yeah Typhon is the thing that's gonna make it not work
This script looks cool. Try it out. Just worry about players executing in a line
gAmEplAy
In all seriousness yea
I love a different Typhon multikill script
Mutant is incredibly funny
Lycan prob needs to come off despite being the start of the script concept
joever
I have this: https://discord.com/channels/569683781800296501/1373541722566561835
Which I thought worked, but apparently needs a good bit of tweaks still? I havent touched it in a bit though...
BMR 👍
@sour harness @fast anchor BMR + X where X is the number of outsiders lol? 😂
Do not
no cheese cults?? 😢
I have these two I made some time ago - first one is a normal custom, Cat in the BotC is a Quantum script. (SoI on the first script is purely to stop Philo-Ogre creating +2 evils ; on the second one, it creates more ways to collapse game state in forcing to avoid the +2 evils)
7/9: If you had the opportunity to create a jinx or to change an existing one, what would you do?
I'd revert the Alch-Widow jinx to "You don't see the grim." Had a script that made good use of that one, and the 'choose another' of new Alch worked solidly with it.
Yaggababble / Gossip: If the Yaggababble & the Gossip are on the same script, the Storyteller and the creator of the script are shot in the street.
- The Summoner is not affected by the Goon's ability

: the wraith can open their eyes during voting
(How is this jinx not real?)
Sane jinx —
: If the Poppy Grower dies and the Vortox ability is active, the evil team correctly learns each other.
Insane jinx —
: If the Demon chooses to become the Pukka, they act twice the next time they would act. (So they don't drop a kill)
&
/
if the princess nominates and executes a player, all players are safe from evil abilities that night
also for fun
& 
The zealot must vote on all Cults
and 
the sw becomes the new Lleech host if the original dies
Genuinely? I think it's because you can't tell them they're drunk or poisoned
it's semi-real, Jams was like "you can house rule this if you like"
A wraith who can wake during OG voting can do so when drunk
What??????
Yeah even the wiki mentions the optional ruling
No you’d just tell them to close their eyes
After everyone else closes their eyes for a vote, you give the wraith a little head shake and the "shut your eyes" hand gesture you use at night
Yeah it’s not too difficult to run
/
,
,
,
: A Summoner cannot be created midgame.
/
,
: It works.
Fair
But I suspect that's still the reason it's not an official ruling
But an optional one
/
: If 5 or more players are alive when the demon dies, a living minion becomes the demon.
Probably needs better wording, but you get the idea
doesn't work on 1 minion games
or maybe If the vigor kills the SW, a living minion gains the SW ability
I like the Jackraw version where the poisoned townsfolk becomes the evil demon
that's crazy
this still makes vigor sw useless bc vig poison isn’t real
Kind of fire
Can't have s**t in Mezepheles (Detroit)
doesnt this already apply to waking at night though? can any characters even cause them to get drunked during the day
should honestly just be jinxed if the intention is to allow undead Masterminds to keep the game going
As for exact wording uhhh not sure. Simplest thing I can think of is “A Vigor-killed Mastermind keeps its ability even if the Vigormortis is executed and dies.” But “Vigor-killed” doesn’t sound like something that would make it onto an official jinx
Maybe something like: 'If the mastermind has their ability when the demon dies, they keep their ability till the end of the next day.'
I think Lil Monsta / DA would be a good jinx
Just “the da can’t protect the baby twice in a row” would be cool
- if the plague doctor dies and the ST gains the Wraith ability, the ST gains the ability to open their eyes at night
the storyteller might register as a good townsfolk or outsider
wait
- if the PD dies & the ST gain the Wraith ability, they might close their eyes at night while performing night action
don’t ask me the implication of this
More seriously, if it isn't "a minion gains the wraith's ability", i could really see "the ST can now communicate with evils at night"
Like implying that the demon is about to make a bad kill or making evils communicate via the ST
yeah that's how I imagine it's supposed to go
so the storyteller becomes an evil councilor
The ST no longer has to storytell with their eyes closed
While the RAF and it's idea is clear (Good wins if Goblin holding LM is exed), it's different from RAW and I think it isn't mentioned anywhere in almanac, so should be just jinxed imo.
It'd probably be something like "The Goblin has no ability while babysitting Lil' Monsta"
Doesn't "good wins ties" already makes it true?
a blanket "good wins ties" completely screws over ET and MM, so no
Last time this was asked in a qna jams answered good wins because good wins ties
good wins because otherwise there’s no counterplay
Yeah no reasonable st would say evil wins that
even with boom/FM/ET there's counterplay
But goblin/saint are just in that weird spot where unless the ST arbitrarily kills them, good is just kinda stuck if they end up persistently babysitting
Yeah, I run that interaction with RAF (good win).
I think if that clarification didn't exist and it followed default tiebreaker, LM + Goblin would've just been major script flaw.
it does still suck
True
it now sucks jinxless
"If the Mastermind has their ability while dead, they keep it when the Vigormortis dies by execution"?
hold on wouldn't it be better if
:If the Demon chooses Pukka, they act immediately.
The Politician does not switch teams and win if they were the only good player to vote on executions this game.
fuck misreg how about not doing bad decisions
(existing jinx)+Legion learns the zealot player
I like Hatter acting on a trigger though
you still have to kill them
also, that wouldn't solve the problem if the Demon kills the Hatter, turns into the Pukka, and then misses a kill because they only set up a poison the following night
(and so there's no death that night)
I mean I feel like I had a pretty good idea
I'm trying to find a way to not have a double kill
because that could be a little unintuitive
i dont believe it causes a double kill
it should just result in:
act 1: poison 1st player
act 2: poison 2nd player, 1st player dies
[7/10] don't think about it too hard, just post a script concept/core that you haven't seen explored before
solo zombuul
loud demon script with timers AND killers
-# probably a semi flawed premise but you said not to think about it too hard
I’ve been trying for this in homebrew and it’s so hard to pull off lol
I'm trying to brew this: script with Alhad + one other demon, with ways for the demon type to change, & the current demon type is confused by goon, lycanthrope, exorcist, etc
Hi midnight oasis
midnight oasis has... issues
but yes
not that my current script doesn't have issues too
but my other demon is Vortox, so the "which demon type" question is more important
solo legion
solo fang gu with cult leader and spirit of ivory, fang gus have to choose between jumping and letting a cult leader flip
Angel Revolutionary script which are determined at dawn of d1
A floating stormcatcher, I've tried to make it a couple times but have been unsatisfied with all my builds
I want to try more stormcatcher scripts, like amne or pixie I think would be fun.
Madness (homebrew/hybrid until more characters are revealed tho)
There was a world cup script with that
it also lost bc the rule was easy to bypass
what was its rule again?
Each night*, all players secretly choose in advance to live or die if they were to be chosen by the Al-Hadikhia. Al-Hadikhia choices are not announced.
ive seen a lot of stormcaught scripts where the sc role is a "non info" role (mayor, drunk, cult leader etc.), would be neat to see one where its an info role instead
it is a flawed premise i fear 😭
sisyphus rolling the stone level of flawed
welcome back rocheambeau
It never left
Potentially I'd just not have a Summoner Poppygrower jinx
based as fuck
Day death puzzle
Alchemist-Widow: If the Alchemist has the Widow's ability, they do not see the Grimoire and the Widow does not poison a player.
Good benefits: Lots of alignment-detection, no evil-sourced misinfo
Evil benefits: Lots of mobility, no character-detection
so VI/seamstress/etc. vs Lil' Monsta/Imp/SW? neato
Storm-caught Recluse with as many characters as possible with "Yes but don't" interactions with it.
Best for an April Fool's game.
[7/11] what item is each character buying from a convenience store at 2 AM on a Friday night
- is harassing the cashier about how the prepackaged cupcakes are subpar
getting multiple cans of Pringles
eye of newt and hormone blockers
Ravenswood bluff convenience stores pop off
several cans of wet dog food
they don’t buy. They stalk
Wraith is buying sunglasses
Wraith is buying various monster energy drinks/redbull/ coffee with 13 shots of espresso/etc
Wraith is buying newspapers with eyeholes cut out
Cigarettes
Having a wild night and buying two sodas
500?
a surprise tub of their partner's favorite ice cream
this month's Games magazine
(after asking for the 10th time "is P&A in print yet")
Skittles
the cashier
the 7/11 and concludes that it is around 63.6 percent
scratch tickets
Didn’t buy anything, is just talking to everyone in the store
Also didn’t buy anything, hovering over everyone’s shoulder
it's 2am, who else is in the store 😭
the Sleepwalker from TBA
The cashier 😌
(also all the other Clocktower characters shopping for stuff)
I struggle to believe you on "they just found out"
clothes
Anything that would allow them to kill the storyteller in an unique way
Who says they can't have just now become the boomdandy?
What do you think the eye of newt was for?
haybale
he’s not buying anything, he’s just robbing the store
Forcing the Shopkeeper to close down the store due to the resurgence of the zombie apocalypse
instant ramen, chef never cook for themselves
fake beard and sunglasses
tobacco refill
:Hmmm, probably nothing
Way to much alcohol and record player that plays soft jazz music.
Magazines to read while they wait for their ability to become relevant.
Drano, toothpaste, and ice cream. These purchases have nothing to do with each other in any way, shape, or form.
An oddly specific amount of 10 different brands
Armfuls of chip bags, dropping them all on the counter in front of the cashier blank faced
7/12 Because the new superman movie just came out, if a clocktower character was a superhero / supervillan what kind of powers would they have? What characters would be arch-enemies?
Makes people around them shiver & paralyzed from fear. If they touch you, you're as good as dead. Maybe some emotional manipulation powers or even light brainwashing
Archenemy of the Fearmonger, emotio manipulation but for calm and happiness, maybe also healing
Also...
Can reengineer subjects to brainwahs them & grant them superpowers. Can't augment itself, so it relies on its converted followers
Makes gadgets, might be able to have powers that counter shapeshifting, archenemy of Kazali
no powers, is just really rich, think something like Lex Luthor
(you could sub Harpy here as well tbh)
Harpy & fear are pacifist enemies
[+2 Snake Charmers]
Pretty self-explanatory
Good fighter, may know how to create wounds that peirce regeneration or super toughness, wants to kill the Lycan as a trophy
also really rich but like batman instead
Cult leader who grants immortality to those who swear their oaths
Archenemy of either
(science vs magic) or
(Monster hunter angle)
Basically what it already does, looks for solar conjunctions & shit to power up
Archemeny of 
I can see
as this noir detective type with the boards and string trying to connect all the strange events in the city
Again fairly self explanatory
Hard to kill, has a powerful ghostly form, natural archenemy of Ojo
If you solve his puzzles, he will bestow untold fortune to you- like a mix of The Wizard of Oz and The Riddler
is Kira from death note
Is a hacker that’s so good at hacking they can hack the world itself
Uses their threads to know everything that’s going on in the city at all times
No powers, just really good with an axe
(susie is not a psychopath, i just wanted the rude buster reference)
Psychopath definitely knows Rude Buster
Can summon lightening to smite people, but only if another person wishes it out loud. Also regenerates when you wound them
If everyone believes their lies, it becomes reality
Doopliss from Thousand Year Door
(shapeshifts, turns people int soulless shadows, and ultimately threatens to steal their life & identity)
Has absolutely no talents whatsoever, but everyone thinks they do.
I'm going to be using this the next time I pull the axe.
If you attack them, you take double the damage you dealt. But it only qualifies if the attacker draws blood & they arent supe strong, so you ccan just put a cage around them
So it's Wobbuffet?
yep.
A pain to hurt, so you deal with them indirectly
Time Travel! But they can only go back 5 minutes at a time, and there’s a 10 minute cooldown between uses
ooh i like that
Marks up to 5 people or objects. Can teleport at will swapping the things
got one of those green lantern rings that can create whatever you think of
would definitely be like one of those ambiguous characters that helps the good guys in some issues and be comically evil in other ones
Would be his little henchman dude who says funny one-liners
can make coffee that can slowly heal or temporarily buff someone. self-explanatory, but it would be funny if they were a neutral party and whilst heroes and villains are fighting both sides awkwardly queue at the cafe
[7/13]: where would each character have had their first kiss? Bonus points for who. (or if they wouldn't have had it yet)
on the stand, upon being nominated
In a movie theater in college with each other (they did not remain together)
believes they had their first Hershey's kiss at some candy store when they were 5
with someone random who woke at night
In ravenswood bluff ofc /j
a night with their identical twin's boyfriend
: On the swingset in kindergarten with the line monitor
gaslit to believe they had their first kiss already
With the first Demon they ever successfully summoned (specifically the Imp)
Kissed the Klutz's bandaids whenevr she fell down
Never had one, would like one
But says they have?
yep
Kissed the Mathmetician at a ballroom-level event, with wine glass in hand and was in magezines the next day
(dont ask what happened to him later)
His wife, his daughter, or the hand of a mafia associate 
Her husband, the granchild's grandfather (probably
)
They preferred to tell everyone when someone else had their first kiss. People dont care for them either, for that reason
A game of strip poker during their teenage years
The Huntsman, just after being saved
the attendant at the carnival stand as a teenager
Nobody has obligrd the request on their "Kiss the Chef" apron.
At least I think. Why would they have the apron if someone has?
first time they saw someone with a mouth
[14/7] It's Bastille Day in the real world, so humor me while I ask something deranged?
Ravenswood Bluff has decided the King
really has to go. What characters are doing what to aid the revolution?
illegally handles a salmon by slapping the king with one
flees to argentina
tracking the Baron to Argentina
helping the Bounty Hunter track the Baron
telling them which direction the Baron went
golem smash
eloping with the Baron to Argentina
Just look at the icon
is it time to admit that i thought the zealot icon was just a hand putting in a vote slip
it's very obviously not that under scruity i but i actually believed that for like half a year
trying to become the new king
I WISH IT WAS THAT
has been on the run since he broke his parole, making him too busy to meaningfully help the revolution.
has been obsessively trying to hunt him down since said parole break.
is the adopted daughter of the
and has fallen in love with a rogue
, who is actively involved in the revolution.
Also
is helping because they think it'll make them money.
Fun fact, before
adopted by
,
and their wife were her adopted parents. They didn't treat her well, though.
Good golly there's lore
From far away it keeps looking like a pistol?
and I have to actively remember it's a molotov
despite being a prominent bureaucrat, is the one operating the Guillotine of course
is not alive yet, but will be exploiting this for marketing in the next coming centuries.
Telling everyone to join the revolution
is playing for good for once and leading the charge against the monarchy to establish a democratic republic
…what do you mean there’s a revolution?
oh no
I say we pull a Russian Revolution on this one.
Wondering if the Princess was actually executed, and is seeking to find her whereabouts and/or body.
Also, nice.
switch clothes with the
and tell her to run away, end up getting executed in the place of her
smashes
Except unique
Also I’m pretty sure people have been intentionally removing and adding reacts to keep it at 69
Sometimes it’s at 70 and sometimes it’s at 68
I love the community
smashes, elopes to argentina with the baron, throws a molotov cocktail, leads a charge against the monarchy to establish a democratic republic and then gets executed after swapping clothes with the princess
smashes the baron 😳
Helps
find a way out, because they believe
is the problem and
should not be punished for
's actions
spreads the news
is selling a lot of chrysanthemums
On a completely unrelated note,
made a pact with
but i don't have any details about what kind of pact
is getting murdered in a bread riot.
is the mob
is there too.
So is 
I wouldn't run Alch-DA
because I think with new alchemist it's a bit of a silly Alchemist ability to give
No see I want to find a way to make the choose agains meta-able
and make Alch-DA a TF again
I'd run it similarly to a cop in the late game
the solution to every problem is ST whimsy
-
: can i choose jesse
ST: you might want to choose again
-
: uhhh. can i choose sarah
ST: if you want a second opinion you have to beat me in roshambo
-
: oh. ✋
ST: ✊
ST: yeah you might want to choose again
-
: okay miguel
ST: sounds good to me
(usually i wouldn't give alch the da ability in the first place)
is cop just "choose a player, learn their alignment"
ah ofc
ig I'd run Alch-DA as EN, choose a player: learn if they'd be an acceptable pacifist save
late response but...
Take a wild guess
make alch-da's choices completely quantum and only let it save player sometimes
hmm
i feels like we have a townsfolk like that
that isn't even pacifist
I wouldn't because I can't ST.
For these types of things I'd usually do it in a Fortune Teller type of way where you're told to choose again if you choose an Evil or 1 arbitrary Good player
That probably makes it too strong though if you're letting it function like an evil-checker as well as exe protection, now that I think on it more.
I agree it should be confirmed goods only but the choosing aspect of DA means you'd also be finding evils and clearing goods on top of the exe protection (if ran in the way I hastily suggested)
just don't let em choose the same alignment twice in a row (but feel free to throw in some red herring headshakes). so if they succeeded in protecting a good player today then they have to choose an evil until they save an evil, then the other way with goods
Or if you select a demon or a good player, choose again, but minions/yourself are fair game
let it be a minstrel sidegrade
[we definitely need more botc lore prompts]: What does each clocktower character's spotify playlist look like?
Listens to white noise and/or static without headphones
is obvious
is probably listening to sounds meant to remove negative aura using specific frequences
mostly lullabies
The internationale, Bella ciao, La Marseillaise,...
hmm.
that's a fun BH sidegrade....
although
"saves Goodie"
"picks 5 good players, keeps getting choose again"
"picks an evil"
is a little fucked but
(Look the question is because I'm doing this on my legion script lol)

just a bunch random stuff they listened to one day and liked, they probably have about 100 songs on it by now and it's still growing
Let's just try and make the push up to 420 lol
Tocata and Fugue in D Minor
72
doesn't use their Spotify account, instead opting to pollute your algorithm with music some else likes.
😇
Anime openings and/or video game soundtracks
Pretentious Classical
"Entrance of the Gladiators" op. 68 or "Entry of the Gladiators" is a military march composed in 1897 by the Czech composer Julius Fučík.
is pretending they don't listen to that.
the juggler understands the mutant enough to acknowledge that they aren't in this circus
All Star but edited so that the first half sounds like a different song
Not because they like it, just to be a troll
Actually…
All Star unironically
(this could also include rickrolls)
i'd think
would listen to all star more
But Shrek tho
They've long gone deaf.
well i like all star enough to acknowledge its themes of "genuine pep talk"
Eardrum shattering explosion
1812 Overture(with the cannons)
Only listens to church choir to practice, they're actually a big fan of hip hop.
The Cornered theme from Ace Attorney
70s greatest hits or even earlier
Sea shanties
Indie Rock
Soviet Union Anthem
Hacked your phone, downloaded whatever songs you liked most
Has had the Jeopardy theme stuck in their head for the past week.
Halloween
L's theme from Death Note 24/7
great pairing
Is that the first game or Justice for All or Trials and Tribulations or-
it's the one from TGAA2
Very good.
john cage’s 4’33”
someone make a playlist of all these 👀
2011年11月16日リリースのメジャー1stアルバム「Daisy×Daisy」に収録のDaisy×Daisyのセカンドシングル「Evidence」。
アニメ「FAIRY TAIL」オープニングテーマ(2011年4月~6月)。
Daisy×Daisy公式HP http://www.pc-artists.co.jp/daisy-daisy/
Fits the vibes kinda
ultrakill soundtrack
I FUCKING LOVE THIS SONG
Have you listened to it before or just now?
actually the second key change pisses me off but like it’s fine
many many times
it’s Fairy Tail OP 7
it’s one of the first songs in my spotify playlist
Yea. I watched a bunch of Fairy Tail back in the day.
The Daisy x Daisy songs are really good
The only other one I remember off the top of my head is ED 5. Holy Shine
that’s the one yeah
magic is cool, fanservice is very extreme though
one time i saw someone saying that lucy is written better than all of the jjk women
it’s true
it kinda is
well she's actually a protagonist, which helps
also, what women?
the e implies plural
[7/17]: What would a character's personality be like if they were on the other team?
: Just a normal prince with a mild ego complex
: Megalomaniac villain who is actually kinda incompetent, but good at presentation, while his evil scientist sidekick (
) actually does all the work
(or is a frat bro who somehow pulls 10/10 brilliant women at the bleeding edge of their field every day of the week, but is still extremely loyal to his highschool girlfriend) [if by other team you are referring to sexual orientation]
Definition of kindhearted himbo
Legion:Fucking Revolutionaries at my castle, fate worse than death
IS THE ULTIMATE THRALL
that helpful dude in a tower who fixed your shoulder for some reason
is just every minion


i have an image of enthusiastic merch carrying fan boy for good marionette and a hidden dr jekyll and mr hyde sitation for evil lunatic
Seems orderly on the surface, but is very snarky & maybe a bit obsessive about order
Free HRT wait that's what she does anyway


In all seriousness Pit Hag
I think turns into a more fairy godmother type. Making people live to their full potential and dreams come true.
REVOLUTION!
CORRUPTION NN
same concept, REVOLUTION!
most likely some Witch people assume is evil and wants to burn them the Old way.
Speaking Of Witch, they would Definetly be a Cat lady or smt.
"Am I just a Walmart Spy now?"
"Well I'm Wraith now..but better."
"Let's go Science!!!"
(Turns out to be
)
registers as evil for this question


huh
oh wild
ok that's funny
wait what
Ok, so when I clicked on my name on discord, it was (they/she) they/them in small
And now it transformed to she/they
ah i see bc my perserver is diff to this server
fun
oh
i just got the joke
i'm so dumb
i think
and ||nun (filler text)|| are counterparts
Personality wise, good Vortox is probably a trickster figure. Kinda like Magician but more

Not || Daughter of Nox ||?
yesss DGS mention
All my Drebbheads rise up
and
form a tag team
but evil
Your friendly neighborhood hivemind!
"We are one, we are all. Our unity cannot be divided."
Allows Minions & Demons mercy if they confess to their evil deeds
The corruption from FYF
What is that?
would be my dog -- evil by default and from afar but sometimes surprisingly friendly
Talks to Townsfolk behind closed doors & tells them Demons aren’t bad
Claims surrendering will bring peace, but is secretly happy knowing the Demon won’t kill them with the rest of town

Has a bunker filled with survival supplies if the town is overrun
The Corruption (Townsfolk): Each night, you learn an alive Good player, then if you have learned them all (including you), your team loses.
Cool
do they learn a player before the demon kills?
[7/18]:
So, those alchemist jinxes, eh?
...
I demand more. Make or change a jinx for Alchemist, even if it's completely unnecessary or overkill.
-# i kinda wanted someone else to make question but it's been like 33 hours since the last one
Alchemist-Mez: You learn a secret word. You become the alignment of the first player to say this word in public.
I feel like Mez should have a jinx somehow preventing the +2 evils? Because that's still definitely not a townsfolk
Even something like "you do not have the mez ability, a mez is in-play" or you could make it spicy and have "a mez is in play and drunk while you are alive"
i honestly don't think the alch jinxes are good interactions
they're better but they also don't help alch. except for alch-summoner but that's just giving the evil team a goblin that doesn't need to claim
My initial thought was learning alignment but then I realised that an evil player would have no good reason to decline the request
Oh I like this one
It brings the number of decent scripts with alch + select minion from 0 to like maybe 3 which is still an improvement but they still can't be put together easily
Also what do you mean? The alch-summoner just says that they're the alch-summoner and lifts off them so evil doesn't win
It meets the bar of being better than a hate jinx at least
It's dangerous specifically with killing minions, I suppose
you don't learn the alch summoner
yes you say you are alch summoner but now town is scared of killing people
it's like "you learn goblin is in play, goblin does not need to claim goblin"
Why is town scared of killing people then?
The ability is basically choosing which demon is in play and knowing that for certain (pretty much immune to droisoning)
The tradeoff with Alch Summoner is you're the Saint for two days but there are no night deaths and then you get to choose the demon type
i think Alch Mario would be more interesting if it wasn't just "there is a mario"
: The storyteller can choose to poison you instead. You can't die.
: If a demon minion dies by execution, play for one more day but everyone is drunk during that extra time
: You know a good player and their role, but if the demon kills the player you know, you die too
: If you are executed, evil wins [-1 outsider]
: You think you are a good player and have their ability, but you don't [-1 outsider]
these are all really good ideas for characters
Executed good players might not die
Instead of picking at night, you pick publicly during the day. They only die if they’re the Demon
[+2 outsiders, other outsider modifications do not apply]
YSK there's a heretic in play
- You start knowing a word. The first player to say this word is sober, healthy, and cannot have their character change while you live.
You think you are useful, but you are not. Nobody will ever believe you.
You start knowing you're an active liability.
This in a 1 minion imp game when there's an attempted starpass
Each night pick a player. Once per game, the demon cannot kill for the rest of the game.
[the word is something like bluff or hardclaim]
You might register as good and a townsfolk, even if dead.
: Each night, learn a word. Each night* become the alignment of the first player to say that word publicly that day.
: you may cheat
YSK the script has no night waking roles
You start knowing you will be ruining the Al-Saahir's ability for the rest of the game.
: YSK its an
game
You start knowing the ST will not give the demon a debuff.
You start knowing you will hear "no, choose again" a lot.
There are no outsiders in play.
Just treat it as a philosopher tbh, and just change yourself
(although tbh old alc is even better with it, because you can turn yourself into a minion you know is not in play)
It's still terrible.
Because good Pit-Hag is extremely broken
If you are executed, you die.
So, how many of these become good if BH-turned?
the alchemist might be in the typhon line
the amnesiac character registers as a Minion to the Alchemist, even if out of play
that's not a jinx, that's just the amnes ability
the Alchemist does not learn which player has the stormcaught character
The Alchemist can have the Legion ability.
The alchemist may register as a minion to the Alsahir

The alchemist can open their eyes at night when being woken by the storyteller
Just in case they forgot
Do you know how long I’ve wanted this
May? or might
May.
7/19: Remeber how every BMR Demon is described as “the deadliest Demon on BMR?”
Pick any other character and do a similar bit
Ex: The Empath is the deadliest Townsfolk in Trouble Brewing for its recurring and certain info
Does it have to be deadliest?
(for experimentals, pick any other expansion or say Greatest Show on Earth)
the butler is the deadliest outsider in tb because of the complaints
Nope. Just a similar vibe (doesn’t have to be killing, just “why it’s the strongest ever” vibes or any other joke in that format)
The Heretic is the most balanced Outsider on ||MHD|| because it makes every game a 50/50
Legion is the most infuriating Demon for scriptbuilders, because of its bad interaction generation.
The Professor is the least deadliest Townsfolk on Bad Moon Rising because it literally brings people back to life
The Occultist is the deadliest Outsider on the Bootlegger’s Anthology for its ability to be executed unless they are mad about something new every day, even though they can visit the Storyteller once per game to learn a fact
The High Priestess is the deadliest Townsfolk on The Carousel due to its ability to create fights post game
The Big Barnacle is the most Demon in the game, for its very understandable ability.
The Baron is the most governmentally protected character, because of the ||[REDACTED]||
The Tinker is the deadest character on Bad Moon Rising for its ability to die on Night 1 before literaly anything happens
The Imp is the deadliest Demon on Trouble Brewing for being the only Demon on Trouble Brewing
I did a full "deadliest demon in Sects & Violets" bit in here a few months ago
#1104980997470171177 message
The Poisoner is the scariest Minion in Trouble Brewing for its cold, calculating misinformation. While Scarlet Woman can act as a safety net and Baron can reduce the number of dangerous threats, Poisoner is the only Minion that can turn good’s most powerful weapon, information, against them. The good team must always consider whether the Poisoner is in play or not lest they follow poisoned information to their untimely demises.
The Scarlet Woman is the scariest Minion in Trouble Brewing for its ability to flip the script and become the Demon. By their nature, Demons are fragile and leave many clues behind. But the evil team can rest easy with a Scarlet Woman in the wings, ready to take the mantle of Demon and turn those Fortune Teller no’s into actively harmful information. When the Scarlet Woman is in play, good must always keep their eyes peeled.
The Baron is the scariest Minion in Trouble Brewing for its simplicity and manipulation. No other Minion reduces the number of dangerous Townsfolk before the game even begins. While a Poisoner can hit someone who doesn’t act, wasting their ability, the Baron can rest easy knowing they’ve done their job as soon as they pulled the token from the bag. The Baron is simple, flexible, and most of all, impossible for the good team to fully counter.
The Spy is the scariest Minion in Trouble Brewing for its deception and knowledge. While the Baron can reduce the number of Townsfolk, the Scarlet Woman can invalidate Demon pings, and the Poisoner can corrupt information, the Spy has a weapon more powerful than the rest of them - the ability to lead town itself by fooling it into trusting them. The Spy can misregister as good, and with the information they gain from the Grimoire, bluff powerful characters that otherwise would be too difficult for evil. The good team must always worry that the helpful Washerwoman leading discussion is secretly the Spy guiding them down the path of destruction.
The Huntsman is the most hated townsfolk for its sheer lack of power. While to confirms one player as good, that player is a potential loss condition that the Huntsman may have added, potentially replacing two powerful townsfolk with a wet sponge and a landmine. In addition the Huntsman has little to no chance of finding the Damsel, and the Damsel's usually better off trying to get executed or killed in the night.
The Poppygrower is the most hated townsfolk for it's violation of normal social deduction norms. The very basis of social deduction is a small team that knows who each other are fighting a majority actively trying to root them out. The Poppygrower prevents any of this by preventing the minority from coordinating, leaving them sitting ducks ready to be picked apart by good's info-gathering roles.
The Atheist is the most hated townsfolk for its game-warping effects. This townsfolk takes any of the joy of finding a nefarious evil team and instead allows the Storyteller to instead live out a power fantasy of pulling the strings from behind. Just write a book instead.
I agree with none of these opinions, these are just the most common sentiments I hear
The golem is the deadliest outsider because it literally punches people it’s kinda obvious idk
The Psychopath is the deadliest minion because it makes the most things dead on average.
The golem is the deadliest townsfolk because it literally punches people it’s kinda obvious idk
The Hermit is the most deadly outsider on my super original script because uhh
clockwork cyborg spotted
Dunno what you're talking about
I think 2 jinxes is a little much
Other than that it seems cool
yeah what about goblin instead of widow
then there'll be two pd jinxes ☹️
the Lycanthrope is the deadliest townsfolk because it kills people
the Gossip is the deadliest Townsfolk in BMR because it killed the tinker when I gossiped that the ST was cheating on her girlfriend
Aren’t you the usual ST?
it'd be really funny if it was a death in the day
usual
OK imagine:
Your SO ST gardens you as the artist in the SnV game. Your relationship has been a little rocky, you’ve been feeling a bit neglected. So you use your artist question to ask if they’ve been cheating on you. They say no. You are relieved. You live happily ever after.
The humble
: 😈 (the person they were cheating on you with is gardened as the vortox).
(They were pithagged into the vigor midgame, but no one said anything bc you were the only info role.)
gasp .
jfc that would be a nightmare
i can't imagine playing S&V and having only one info role
Well I should say the only one affected
Sage and unspent seamstress were also in the bag, but were unaffected by vortox
Got to it before me smh
Boffin is the deadliest Minion on Quadjank for its ability to make the demon literally immortal
One Day More is the deadliest Djinn rule on Djinnbucket because it makes everything so much more difficult to deal with
technically least deadly
Damn I was about to make that joke
Ok fair
Princess is the deadliest Townsfolk on Garden of Sin because it's either a blank token or it just loses
Soldier is the deadliest demon bluff on TB because no one trusts a soldier.
The Mayor is the deadliest demon bluff on TB because of this sticker:
The Investigator is the deadliest demon bluff on TB because it is liable to be executed for an Undertaker
The Undertaker is the deadliest demon bluff on TB because if you mess up once it's over
The Assassin is the deadliest Minion on Bad Moon Rising because the chosen player dies even if they couldn't for some reason.
Atheist is the deadliest townsfolk in the game since they can be put in play even when not on the script
"there is a bootlegger in play. the bootlegger rule is that players are not told it is a bootlegger script. also,"
^ Arbitrary Character Execution
7/20: How often does each character attend church?
Leads it every sunday
Poorly
Interrupts the preacher: "Noah took two of every animal? Um, actually..."
They live there
as well
Whenever they're on the campaign trail or doing photo ops
Lives across the street and plays loud music
: Whenever their campaign manager
tells them to
Invisibly playing evil tunes on the organ
Stand outside of the church busking. Nobody goes to church that day.
: passing out a collection plate
Swiping from that collection plate.
Goes to every wedding to shout "I object!!"
Sits in the back with a newspaper and sunglasses. Somehow nobody finds this suspicious.
Stabbed the Pope last week and is pretending to be a cardinal to get the next one
Too bad they've used their one and only kill, so they won't be able to stab the next one.
They got coffee
The lead the part of the service that everyone looks forward to.
and
follow different sects of buddhism, Shugendō and Theravada respectively. Therefore, they do not worship together and no Buddhist temples have been built in Ravenswood Bluff. Unbeknownst to them,
is also Buddhist, since they like the idea of being reincarnated into something new after death, but they attend church in a cloak to pretend they aren't Buddhist in the primarily Protestant Christian Ravenswood Bluff.
I'm guessing they are Protestant since a
is considered to be a traveling novelty.
Stands outside the church with a "Wake up people!" protest sign.
Being burned at the stake outside for heresy(Somehow the actual heretic hasn't been found yet tho)
Currently attempting to sue the church for false advertising
Cast a magical blockade on the church, no-one can get in anymore :(
They are practicing their own unique syncretic religion that is frequently stereotyped but is actually an extremely complex blend of West African, Central African, Islamic, and Christian cultures.
:Having depression
Was banned from attending after they started playing Pokemon battle themes loudly during sermons
Really? I heard they were banned after continually making deez nutz jokes?
The Goblin couldnt tell you which thing they did got them kicked out
Attends every week, but only to grab a dollar from the donation box in Christian churches
: unfortunately doesn't work with their sleep schedule
has horrifically detailed sermons about Hell & the exact ways in which its victims are tortued
is spreading its own take on the religion and is probably going to cause a schism over them not letting it get divorced
Currently in a coffin at the funeral
: put them there
watching the townsfolk nail the monster's tentacles to the doors of the church, just as they planned
Runs a store one block down selling tarot cards, crystals, and other stuff they claim is more spiritual
The Fortune Teller knows that what they are selling is bullshit, but they accepted the word, so they don’t push on it
Is busy helping the Mezepheles & so will not go there
you'd think they'd find the
quicker because the
is the only one that goes to church
unfortunately for the good twin no one can tell them apart in the first place
lol
resides in the church cemetary
7/21 Ok, So someone put a fucking nuclear bomb in the church.
What does your favorite character do
laughs maniacally
flies out of the country
Ok if enough bodies cover it surely we can block it like a grenade
roll up into a ball and cry
they’re the radiated being that evolves from the nuclear bomb
cries because his chandelier is gone :(
you did ask for favourite character
dies
plays their normal theme but in negative harmony
helped build the bomb
Attempting to teleport the bomb to New York
gets unmutanted by the radiation

Uh
Somehow
It ated it?
(It’s now very dead but)
(I don’t know how they put the bomb in their mouth)
idk depends who has custody
goes every Sunday and insists they retell the story of David and Goliath
is telling everyone to stop worrying and love the bomb
Calls his board. They have a uranium mine to set up.
Was responsible for putting the bomb there. Is watching from their bunker
says they were responsible for putting the bomb there'
Is pretty sure they are responsoble for putting the bomb there
Is currently…. Standing on the bomb
And is somehow surviving their strain of cancer not seen before
Is currently drinking with the bomb. The bomb has not become drunk.
Drinks with the bomb. The bomb is drunk.
Drinks with the Courtier. The Courtier is drunk
Replaced the explosives with a mustard gas bomb
will be arrested for war crimes afterwards
Points out that atom bombs explode on impact and there is no way there will be enough force for it to detonate any time soon.
Made a special brainworm that only activates when the bomb has the 5 digit in the timer
They’ve already infected the water supply
(I’m not even sure how the bio-mechanics of that work but here we are)
Is boarding up the church doors so no one can escape
Starts studying the bomb in an attempt to find a new way to turn lead into gold.
Carried the bomb here on behalf of the Mastermind. Had no idea what it was
left the country with the MM
Immediately cuts the red wire
laughing at puny bomb
currently inspecting how to transmogrify humans into copies of this bomb
shouts bomb so that everyone will panic. then stabs someone
Before laughing maniacally, flying out of the country, playing their normal theme in a minor key, helping build the bomb, attempting to teleport it to New York, calling his board, leaving the country and watching from their bunker, saying they were responsible for putting the bomb there, drinking with the Courtier, replacing the explosives with mustard gas, making a brainstorm that only activates when the bomb has a 5 digit in the timer, boarding the doors so nobody can escape, and carrying another bomb to the church.
this is so funny if you look at only the text in the message I'm replying to and nothing else
TRUCK PARKED NEARBY
Turns the bomb into money that fuels the Baron's cheap foreign labor
Says they are trying to help diffuse the bomb and "accidentally" cuts the timer in half. Everyone believes them.
Pulls out their own supply of Molotovs
Reactivates the bomb for one moment.
Then it turns back into dust
Starts killing people and yells at
for "kill stealing"
gets blown up, wakes up in a bad mood
Says how to defuse the bomb & is right. But no one believes them
Recites the plot of a murder mystery where the killer used bombs
fell asleep on the bomb
:Fake news!
Someone gets so bored they just fucking die
Eats the bomb, procceeds to immedaitely throw it up cause it tastes horrible
“AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!”
AAAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!
Preacher says something about armageddon
and the return of Christ
The bomb grows a hand and points at
, everyone dies.
comintern:Evaporates
Wactehs the news tonight, is glad they never attend church
(or anywhere that people are)
All of this is happening in the span of ten seconds, might I remind you
I cant tll if the bomb went off or not
They don't die, they just lose
I think te Golem exploded it?
Maybe the Vizier did?
this implie it did go off
as does Golem
Meanwhile a couple of people were okay, consensually drinking with
in the parking lot
dropped dead exactly 1 second before the bomb went off
Face palming because no one was competent enough to stop the bomb before it got here
Starts building a bomb-diffuse-inator, dies to an inconvenient malfunction.
(also safe with the Tea Lady cause they could tell good was losing)
Waiting for orders from da boss
: Thought they were safe with the 
Turns them evil
Sitting back with a chilled drink, knowing their spells wil save them
Unfortunately accidentally left the church door open
They win still!
does this imply 1 demon also surivied?
They rescued the
thinking it was the 
Yes
.
starts to feel real strange.
Disposing of any evidence showing how they built the bomb
Is now evn more rich because the Mastermind payed them generously for the job
"
" miraculously survives. Nope, no
here, just a
.
tried to hang from the chandelier, is why the Noble is upset
Invites all the newly dead people to a meeting
loudly shouts that all must join the true deity or their souls will be damned forever
Serious question, who decides who asks the next question?
kinda just first come first serve
its not a formal thing
people just generally respect whoever posed
7/22: Uh um uh, dibs!
fair enough. repost this tomorrow with whateve you wanna ask
is the bomb
Is high, doesnt know who put this ugly statue here
Somehow causes only the Tea Lady & the people outside to die
spends too long trying to calculate the minimum safe distance that they forgot they actually have to leave
Sees the explosion from the sky
ran away for 1 second. couldnt reemebr why they were panicing
tries to bridal carry the Damsel & jump through a window.
🤓 Ummm actually a cemetery on church ground is a graveyard
til!
that’s absolutely mad
Depends who’s babysitting
Why am I at my own door
im assuming this is botc character?
I’m fine
dead.
100% dead
queer people show up to my door all the time
bc i don't have have a problem with my local mayor, to my knowledge; and farmers are all pretty chill; but non-botc character wise im super fucked
alternatively: fuck yes I've been kazali-picked
novel strategy of kazali picking yourself to turn into a minion
Yep, to pick yourself later 
I thought you preferred vigor
that's about 25% "why am I at my own door" and 75% "well, I knew trying to ascend to immortal demigod status would come at a cost someday"
I'm always down to see a dancing monkey!
So much so I'd miss my local election for it
and miss both?
I mean, if a hivemind shows up at your door, you're best off assimilating
I’m morally opposed to joining a hivemind
You are on discord
Yes, we argue all the time
you won't have that problem much longer
AGREEMENT? On MY discord??
I concede
NO WE DON'T!!!!
that was not my friend
Uh
Lies
I will have that problem longer
Anyways I only use discord for BOTC
pretty much
Of course also
The other character
I would scam them out of their spellbook
hehe
wishes great ill upon me. the cost is that i receive great fortune too
Well I’m gonna get punched, but I won’t die
depends if they’re good or evil tonight (no it’s not the fucking cult leader)
yeah that’s 100% Sergeant-Major Morris at your door
Physically I'm fine, but I am convinced I'm a swordfish now, so that's unfortunate. Also help I need water
I vote yes
will completely distract me with his tricks while he robs me for everything I own
Welp so much for this
Just having a good time playing games together, I got destroyed in every one though (anyways also help I need water)
.
Yo sick i'm klutz picked
which do I trust not to break my house
pixie as a skinwalker is an interesting take
That flavour text'd do it
The pixie steals children no? Like that's the type of fey its invoking?
lady mist child confirmed :OO
[7/23]: Which characters would have the tackiest weddings? and which would get married in a courthouse? (in other words where in that spectrum are they)
the spectrum is surely from like Baron to Judge
what's a wedding
not the ringbearer?
also isn't marrying virgins like a whole thing in many older civilizations?
is single, but they attend a lot of weddings.
at a wedding - “I don’t”
Classic white wedding, but when the priest asks "Do you take this person to be your husband/wife?" they say "No."
Vegas wedding with someone they just met and decided to trust while drunk
Never got married to
(would never go to a courthouse), but both still love each other deeply
Married at a simple garden party with friends and family
Wasn't allowed to serve fried priest as a wedding dinner at any venue, decided to stay home
has a small wedding with very, very long toasts
Rare Toymaker mention
the day wedding with family is pretty dead, but the after-party with college friends brings the vibe back to life
idk i heard some people got pretty hungry at the day party
died before the wedding leading to the groom becoming a drunken oaf
extremely extravagant, state-sponsored wedding
7/24 Oh no it's the zombie apocalypse! Whose got the best chance to survive and who's going to die first?
final boss
could survive til the end, if only they could find more bullets
joins the war on zombies. On the side of the zombies
They have an infection that could kill them at any moment
Could slow the zombies down, in practice kills the people they need alive by mistake
Apocalypse? What apocalypse? steps outside and dies. Still remembers nothing due to lack of brains
everyone except for specifically the drunk one dies
Attempts to simulate Plants Vs Zombies. It goes poorly
lives the longest. Not the original one -- that's my great-grandfarmer. This three-pronged zombie-stabbing tool appeared in my hand one day and then I stopped having nightmares.
Yeah now you have carnivorous plants and zombies trying to kill you
is more comfortable with more sapient undead armies, but can work with this
can survive decently long off his instincts
joins the zombies
hides among the zombies
The zombies are a hoax made up
by the government
has trouble convincing people they haven't already been bitten
found a cure, will die before it gets used
Does well initially by blowing up zombies, dies in 5 minutes when they run out of bombs
Created the zombie virus, their bunker is protected to last years or even decades
Roams the apolcypse, easily killing hordes of zombies & survives for a long time
The very first person to die & become a zombie
the Mutant after they get bit
Fortifies a garden, but surivors can only join by throwing another person to the zombie horde with their own hands
Fell while running away, died immediately
Finds areas where humans live, then destroys their bases so the zombies can get in
believes they're a zombie
doesn’t live near any zombies
: was the person who got
's concoction into the local water supply
I want to see a shining fanfiction where a roshambo duel happens between Danny and Jack during the climax
With the Boffin in their bunker
causes zombies to move towards the polling station to cast their votes
: Their saliva gave the
the missing ingredient to make their serum work
This might be the best answer
Was killed by their own zombie grandchild
First ever social deduction game to feature Cotard’s syndrome 🔥
Survived a long time until the group scavenged some rum
Wanted survivors to work together, got killed by evil humans
: Convinced the group not to impose screening procedures at the base, so
infected people can sneak in to get a few kills
has the equivalent of munchausen's but for zombie infections
(for minor elaboration, they wished for the ability to control zombies. So zombies can never kill/infect them)
Hasn’t noticed there are zombies
Still chattering away, somehow zombies die before getting close to them
Takes brainless to a whole new level, somehow the zombies don't want them
Keeps telling human gangs where all the supplies are, got kicked out of wherever the survivors live
Carries the infection, can turn others into zombies, never becomes a zombie themselves
Somehow got stuck alone in the city, zombies pounding at the doors to their base
Punched a zombie’s head off. Ignored them afterwards
Wouldn't
not kill the zombie
Do zombies count as Demons?
How different is Zombuul from a regular zombie?
they can speak a little at least
Have you seen Warm Bodies? That.
: Offered as a sacrifice in the new religion that pops up
Was Patient Zero
: Acts as the expert, citing all of their info from a bunch of zombie movies/books/assorted media, turns out not a single one of which was remotely accurate
I said that
Well tbf you've said like 30 of them
the ONE time I don't check
Started the new religion that popped up
vati reference
completely unaware there’s been a zombie apocalypse
there is no zombie apocalypse. Return home.
created a bunch of really complex rules for how the zombie virus works in-universe and then had multiple instances where the plot just completely ignores the rules
gave the protagonist plot armor(zombies can no longer be within 50 ft, he artificially smells too bad)
dies first during the first attack during the night
is sacrificed so everyone can get to safety
After a day of safety… another attack!
all go down before the rest push the zombies back
is accused of sabotaging the group and is thrown out
manage to survive long enough to defeat the zombies together
Most likely ||Kamikazes itself|| to the boss.
Doesnt even know how to use their abilities.
most likely is sabotaging the group.
[7/25]: What is each characters middle-school phase song? eg if they're emo maybe its black parade, maybe its a taylor swift song, maybe its a metal song
: Sugar We're Going Down
Showtunes are allowed. Also bonus question: Whose is We Didn't Start the Fire?
My guess is
but i'm open to other points of view
Doesn’t know, hasn’t had it yet
Guys
Resident middle schooler here, what’s yours?
See Epic Mickey
is the viridian killer
Bubblegum K.K.
Boat parked nearby :)