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(this isn't spec spoilers material Steven has talked about it publicly on his tumblr)
I think there's a really cool interaction and also an example of it being a toy that you can play with and do funny things with
I'm not going to entirely discount your view because I'm in a glass house when it comes to vibesy scriptbuilding but like come on
If neither of us can actually define what the distinction between a scriptbuilding gimmick and actual character with an identity is then I think it's reasonable to differ on whether Boffin is one or not
No no it's the character that's vibes
I'm also realizing it may not be obvious that I was exaggerating
Absolutely not, I hate text as a medium
stableboy... horse... townsfolk... stableboy is Cyan the cyan horse? :O (sorry for horse race tests-posting in secret-thing)
it's orange actually
bh turn :)
i dunno if i'd call the evil colour orange tbh
wall-let
what did vati mean by this
Anywhere without outed evil (like vizier or psychopath). And even then there are places where that’s fine regardless
Or confirmed good players
That too
i think i have yet to make a script without trying to put town crier on it at least once
also widow
I tend to avoid these when making scripts anyway
I put a Philosopher on v1 of like every script. Thinking about what I'd pick as a Philo helps me balance the rest.
I get that
I'm really picky with my towns if I put philo on a script
But that feels like a decent tool to keep townsfolk balance in check
pixie
4/22:
It’s whalebucket draft time again!!! Pick 10 characters (4 Townsfolk, 2 Outsiders, 2 Minikns, 2 Demons), and I’ll make a grim where you get one of those characters! The catch: you also get to pick a character to ban, which no player will be assigned! Starting banned characters:
Atheist
Engineer
Philosopher
Heretic
Pit-Hag
Legion
Kazali
TF: High Priestess, Pacifist, Savant, Shugenja
Outsider: Butler, Mutant
Minion: Psycho, Harpy
Demon: vigor, alhad
Ban: Leviathan
Philo and heretic were pre-banned
TF: High Priestess, Savant, Banshee, Chef
Outsider: Ogre, Zealot
Minion: Cerenovus, Widow
Demon: Yaggababble, Imp
Ban: Fang Gu
Tf: bounty hunter, exorcist, grandmother, cult leader
Out: drunk and sweetheart
Minion: goblin and boom dandy
Demon: LoT and zombuul
Ban: pacifist
TF

Outsiders

Minions

Demons

You have to ban
D:
TF: Al Saahir, Savant, Cult Leader, Gossip
Outsider: Mutant, Butler
Minion: Devil's Advocate, Mezepheles
Demon: No Dashii, Po
Ban: Organ Grinder
TF: Snake Charmer, Chambermaid, Dreamer, Cannibal
Outsider: Goon, Politician
Minion: Scarlet Woman, Spy
Demon: Yaggababble, Imp
Ban: Organ Grinder
Townsfolk: Investigator, Alchemist, Savant, Cannibal
Outsider: Goon, Politican
Minion: Wizard, Mezepheles
Demon: Vigormortis, Alhadikhia
BAN: Vortox
TF: Savant, Amnesiac, Juggler, Ravenkeeper
Outsider: Puzzlemaster, Goon
Minion: Poisoner, Cerenovus
Demon: Lord of Typhon, Fang Gu
Ban: Mezepheles
Townsfolk: Savant, Amnesiac, Engineer, Mayor, Slayer, Artist
Outsider: Golem, Moonchild
Minion: Pit-hag, Cerenovus
Demon: Fang Gu, Imp
Ban: Legion
Townsfolk: Dreamer, Artist, Snake Charmer, Cult Leader
Outsiders: Politician, Puzzlemaster
Minions: Spy, Widow
Demons: Imp, Lil Monsta (see minion picks)
Ban: Poisoner
no Cerenovus ⁉️
Townsfolk: Huntsman, High Priestess, Savant, Snake Charmer
Outsider: Zealot, Golem
Minions: Psychopath, Evil Twin
Demon: Al-Hadikhia, Yaggababble
Ban: Cerenovus
I am Literally The Cerenovus but I really really like playing grim peekers
fair
lol I only went "fuck it we probably have viable vigor minions" because literally everyone picked cere
change my mind manifesting imp
I really wanted fang gu but it got banned before me :(((((((((
actually is LM a valid pick? because what I really wanted was spidow holding LM
updated
you can still pick roles other people banned right? if we get enough responses you could end up in a different grim from the person who banned your role
if not I have to go back and edit my submission (repeatedly)
TF: Dreamer, Savant, Pixie, Cannibal
Outsider: Moonchild, Puzzlemaster
Minion: Psychopath, Spy
Demon: Lil Monsta, Alhad
Ban: Bounty Hunter
just play whalebuffet instead smh
Finally someone else who likes spy + widow on some scripts
im shocked you didn’t ban harpy
Townsfolk: Mathematician, High Priestess, Lycanthrope, Huntsman
Outsiders: Butler, Politician
Minions: Godfather, Devil's Advocate
Demons: Fang Gu, Lil' Monsta
Ban: Riot
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Ban 
boooo
ok i'll make a new list
hmmm
if I read other's ban list, am I guaranteed to slot in a character

Tf:

Outsider:

Minion:

Demon:

Ban: 
Oops
oh right i need to remake the list
I think I was the 15th
I ban apprentice 😈
ill be the matron and nominate your ass
wait
voudon
not matron
I was wondering
I will simply beg for my life and shed many tears
So many Butlers
last time I did this everyone picked goon so we've made progress
Far too easy
I can make multiple games if need be
Legion, Engineer, and Pit-Hag are pre-banned
You only get 4 TF picks, not 5
no need, just rack me as a traveller 🥺
i'd love to travel in your game
dealer's choice
i can count i swear ;-;
Prompt:
What if you turn a B3 script with a homebrew character or ruling what would it be and what script?
!!!
Like add a homebrew character to a b3 script?
BMR into FyF 
SnV but swap in occultist for mutant. no more "oh I'm the snake charmer only picking myself"
now this would surely be horrible but I just thought of it: SNV but the snake charmer has the magician's ability
make-your-own-||mole||
Minions knowing the SC is kinda cool I guess? The demon knowing them just breaks tho
snv but instead of witch there’s agitprop
cere is still there too
what's agitprop
Nwc
cerenovus but it's madness about a statement rather than a role
oh wait i have a change
Strict upgrade over cere
also replace klutz with plague doctor
(it works in context afaik don't worry too much)
see my agitprop question is how expansively I can get the st to define 'statement' so I can force someone to be mad about a full vatiwall of fake worldbuilding
SnV but replace Vigormortis with Skinkulus
it's balanced because the mad player will immediately know who the agitprop is
it used to be “if they are mad its false they get executed” so if they remain ambivalent about the statement they were fine, but that ended up having to be changed because it allowed for somebody to just give info to the demon for free
which is very powerful in the context of nwc
(or if they said nothing about it at all, because it was never brought up in the first place)
BMR but if someone complains about the script or asks me a rules question whose answer can be found in the almanac they owe me CAD$5
i'm running BMR + Yagga in longtext because of this btw
I will end you
you can't even reach me
14 days
he'll cut off your legs
I can reach high enough
can you?
Do you want to find out
yes
statement means one thing
I was the Agitprop who attempted to do that at one point
it failed
I think you did it, the script of all time
Yeah but consider the argument of "it's balanced because the mad player will immediately know who the agitprop is"
idk why but this reminded me of the time I was running BMR and my players tried to confidently tell me that po charging on a minstrel night doesn’t give the 3 kills the next night
Spoilers
I think the confirmed stuff might be worse?? Like thats the actual spoilers
Yeah that’s like the most guaranteed spoiler we have
I almost said that and wizard 😭
I feel like ||Daughter of Nox|| is the one unreleased character that the most people know exists, even outside of #speculation-and-spoilers
Yeah bc y'all can't contain yourselves
Hey TPI say it on stream it’s not just us
||currently headcannonning that it evolved into xaan and therefore is no longer real because it's technically possible and also really funny||
It would be so funny
||TPI have been very vocal about how Xaan was made so its definitively not true||
But very funny
Shhhhh
"The Pithag has turned you into the good vortox"core
4/24: what's an interaction you find incredibly unintuitive?
Imp with boffin-RK starpassing to the boffin still allows them to use the RK ability
Idk that many unintuitive interactions ngl
Maybe Vigor/MM but that isn't RAW
Pukka with things like Klutz and Moonchild
or really most pukka interactions
Boffin
I generally intuit interactions well but I cannot look at the Pukka flowchart and discern any value from it, it bounces off my brain completely
Someone wrote an actual essay write-up of what it says at one point that perfectly explained everything and I can't find it and I have searched so hard
If you want an actual answer
Well it's quite BMR coded
The Shabalotg can regurgitate when exorcist picked
Oh yeah, assassin + goon
I find most of this game's vanilla interactions pretty intuitive
The droisoned grandmother can have a grandchild who they do not learn, but still die with if sober upped
Sailor/Mathematician. If the Sailor is selfdrunk and then the Demon kills them, it doesn't ping the math (despite malfunctioning due to the ability that killed them that isn't their own) because it was their own ability that drunked them
Recluse+Mathematician. If a Recluse would have made an ability work incorrectly but didn't due to droison, that's a math 1
“Apprentice: can also be a legion!”
A more straightforward but common one. Drunk never pings the Mathematician.
Seriously though riot informing marionette and other minions of character changes before it happens
Fuck that
So unbelievably tragic that you can only have "might" math pings work once so you can't give a math 500 every night for a tinker next to a tea lady
Oh yeah
The drunk being told they are a different Townsfolk
Eg- "you are now the Farmer"
that one makes sense to me
They kinda have to in order to keep the whole "many in number but powerless" thing but it's fucked
Yeah I get it
It’s more important for legion that there are no evil minions than that the rules make sense
But like ugh
Anything involving Vortox and things that inherit abilities
philo snitch vortox and its effects on society
wait how does this resolve
actually
gives inplay characters
Pixie always gets the ability they saw even if that info was wrong. Feel like that one always needs to be clarified even for veterans
riot doesn't have to inform marionette!
philo lunatic vortox is also funny
RAW i think it does?
nope
riots character change is funky so you're not obligated to tell minion they've changed chatacters until the following night - at which point the game will be over already
barring like
shenanigans
oh yeah misinfo pixie is really jank
Vortox and Alchemist similarly I’ve seen run different ways
Vortox Alchemist is just undefined rn I'm pretty sure
yeah
Therefore unintuitive
But pukka moonchild/klutz is my real unintuitive interaction
Feels like it shouldn’t work like it does
The almanac implies you tell them the night before
It’s ambiguous
It doesn't imply, it says you do it night 3, even if they actually change characters later
Well I hope they clarify that
Vortox and stuff that doesn’t exactly give info like poppy grower, nwm, etc
They yield info but don’t receive it
Shaboloth Goon, if the Goon is picked second, the first one still dies
I tried to make a script actively around that lol
Despite its official ruling, I still find FT/Vortox wholly unintuitive simply because I feel like you could argue for ruling it either way and I'd say "yeah ig that makes sense?" for different reasons
Also hi secret thing
you can I believe
Misreg v Vortox wholly depends on what script it’s on
Always assume I'm talking about the best script, Trouble with Violets 😎
Trouble with Violets has FT and Recluse
you mean half of the 108
which is generally ruled as opposites in this
GOON ASSASSIN
the assassin should be drunk and thus have no ability when they pick the goon
and since they have no ability
Even if for some reason they could not
the “even if for some reason they could not” part of their ability shouldn’t apply
they’re drunk
i haven’t read the thread today
the argument is that yes i’m right but assassin wasting their ability is a feelsbad so TPI made a pseudo-jinx to fix it 😎
vortox and poppy/some other random TF
true! It did lead to my favorite ever moment in clocktower tho so
Ojo & Lunatic. Especially if the Lunatic saw the Ojo token
does demon only learn a name in that
or role
You have just described why its unituitive. Idk off the tiop of my head
yeah RAW they learn the player who has that role
or i think they learn nothing if the lunatic missed
Gardened poppy grower game, where the lunatic Lleech sat next to a tea lady and the vortoxed savant info perfectly framed them a world with them demon. once poppy grower died minions learned the lunatic as the demon
did evil win?
no lmao
yeah somehow. demon killed their cere n2 on accident, killed the poppy grower n3 or n4, iirc. the vortox had the boffin-damsel ability and the savant info narrowed down the vortox as 1 of 2 damsels. i outed minion and guessed the other candidate, got the demon whisper from the real vortox that night lmao
Alch I hope???
i really do hope holy cow
also i don't under that vortox st decision for pg at all
It's a gardened game on a lleech TL script
It was
It is not serious
(it was a longtext I backread and yeah alch boffin damsel)
can't argue with results
except i can???
Mizu every time I explain anything
it was incredible. day 6 lunatic realization
i just know for a fact that when you are back, we’re gonna argue every single day
Good
wdym good
-# that just means that Squall gets to win an argument every day
well if you insist
wait no
look how dead I am
also i think squall might be convinced when it come to occultist
why are you rezzing the magician
they nommed the virgin for some reason
ah, he hates neurodivergent people too?
I've heard of at least one game where the magi got an evil to out to them, said this in town square, then procced the virgin
everyones getting setup mod lately
my "blind kill both minions to find the magi" strat is working -- wait fuck
person manifesting livetext growth
you die in the game, you die in real life
16p part 2
if thats what it takes
well if we normally have max 10 livetexters for all 10 of us
then how will we accomodate a 1110 player game
threads
Exactly
Wdym convinced
Oh mizu doesn’t get the appeal of occultist btw
yeah I know
well
he did but he became contrarian when I made everyone else see the vision
He’s just “oh why doesn’t the good team just disregard the occultist fully”
now that is very unwhimsy
sorry, unwhimy according to my prior experience
tbf I prefer the mutantlike occultist even though it's not the original vision
because it's the variant that's closer to being Literally Me
why does mizu do this
but they're both valid playstyles
im gonna be honest, i dont think another 16p would be that bad. the main problems with the first one was voting (we have clocktower.live now) and the fact that that was my second time STing livetext ever
time for 16p Stormcatcher Favours the Goon
how does one just acquire 16p
I'd be terrified to do so but like what time of day was this if you know
it was 9:30 AM on a Sunday EST
it doesnt work though
i tried all my scheduleds then because its basically the only time i can guarantee i'll be free, and no one shows up to them
oh rip
I might make a sched like 4 hours after then next week
also person I will play scftg if you lose the harpy
not just for vati reasons
also because evil absolutely should not have that level of guaranteed EN choosing power on it
Harpy should just read "each night, pick 2 players"
i havent looked at this script in so long 😭
you made a stormcaught goon script where 3 out of 4 minions choose one or more players each night
the surreptitious snakecharmer:
out of 5
I might design a SCFTG script but cooler
wait I only remember harpy/witch/cere/gf
because I feel like goon is coolest when it's a back-and-forth
and the 5th one is assassin so its also gonna lock goon evil
oh yeah
ok assassin + goon is like my least favorite part of bmr
anyway just make it 4/4 rather than 5/3
it has good vigor minions
alternatively innovate
wizard
i cant put wizard on a script i intend to run
skill issue
just garden me as the wizard I know what I'm doing
is it tricking you into breaking your setup? maybe
oh i can put summoner on this script
26 character script
no im removing harpy and witch in this theoretical version
I actually think a SCFTG script could use a magician
because an uncoordinated evil team will overpick the goon and I think that's neat
finally found the script image
like "oops now the goon is actually ceremad"
i dont really like the magi LM interaction
notoriously script-splashable role poppygrower
big fan of the big 3 decentralized characters: poppygrower, lycan, and wizard
and the weird younger cousin vizier
one of the other things i was concerned about this script is moonchild probably just being a townsfolk
yeah looking back over it this is a very vigor script, which is super funny given it has a stormcaught outsider
if we want to make it more of a battle for goon, i could add lunatic
consider: funni
if you want it to be that way then yeah I like the solution
can't believe they put a demonfinder in the outsider slot
it's a demonfinder that works with lm!
town crier is my favorite demon finder
anyway I actually see the vision for moonchild (funni)
VATI
THIS IS WHAT WHIMSY IS
and I'm a big advocate for moonchild on all scripts where it isn't probably the strongest townsfolk
YOU ARE A WHIMSY BELIEVER AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IT
there's a distinction
witch is a vision here tbh
tinker witch is cinema
which? (funniest joke ever alert)
Magica nominates Vati...and dies
that could be for any number of reasons
Note the Definition of "not whimsical" is @hollow oasis
if that's the definition of Whimsy
you were literally just playing whalebuffet
secret thing is my favorite #custom-script-discussion 2.0 while they discuss another script
It's me trying to make an ST sad by drawing wizard
yes
I hope squall gets over his self-hatred
whether it’s internalized is a different issue
the problem is i dont know which minion to switch it out for
cere?
also the problem with summoner is you don't summon ojo ever
and summoning vigor is incredibly circumstantial
so you just have like Midgame Unsolvable LM
don’t you just always do LM or Po here
summoned ojo mathematically has better odds because of the extra odds (nobody else cares and thus will never pick ojo)
*because of the extra bluff
Each night*, kill your frame
ojo miss killing 5 players incoming
but yeah I think summoner is off vibe no matter how appealing "summoner goon works!" is
hear me out: ojo legion script as the only sources of deathmod, and you can do literally whatever you want with it
I would recommend
fair enough
i think you could remove assassin here tbh
the 2 night of no death is just ojo missing
don’t worry about it
which is so lame
no u
dies
thanks
squall sobbing in the corner
just like hit Bhamber script
we’re friend because i’ve come to their house and check their SSN, of course
what is it, I've forgotten
Oh my minion volume
it's got witch on it the summoner is a misprint
should be in the DN drawer
Actually there's LM nvm it's fine
anyway the minions are all silent because of the stormcaught goon so
ok in their defense, goon does hide loud minions
what is 🥃 I am not up to date with the youth lingo
last I heard, "crash out" was the term of the kids
what is ⛑️ even surely I'm being gaslit
I'm not that old
it's a CSGO reference
of the lack of medics
anyway now that we've removed harpy from scftg it'll start racking scheduleds (trust)
and you felt that fitting to respond to my comment about the strategical nuances of botc
now that harpy is gone I will no longer play scftg

instead of "trust" I'm just gonna say "Milk" because people will know what I'm talking about
also you never played it, it never racked
how that harpy is g- axo why are you acting evil all of a sudden
i would've played it but now that a fun character isn't there anymore im not gonna
can we execute her
do it with this
Nerdguy is bullying meeeeeee /lh
also this has just become csd 2
post json I gotta save it
we can move over to the script thread thats hasnt been used in half a year
honestly
Nono, we can stay here
i find tinker to rarely work without a lot of death mod
I already pinged him
tumbler
since I'm only arguing with reactions and not messages I feel like I'm going insane
ohh is it a tumblr
then stop
❌
bowl of rice
get a bowl
wait nvm there’s literally no chipotle around me
but 🥃
brown rice and black beans
mb
get an empty bowl and eat that
there’s like no chipotle within 10km distance
Sami react is wild
that’s like 10/1.6 miles for americans
axo not you too 😭
this reminds me of the cactus thing and I've only just started reading
does anyone else know the cactus thing
specify further
I don't really remember it very well
Magica
when you guys thinks of beans, do you guys think of sweet or salty food
I'm going to tell you what the whisky means
but I remember it being some sort of blog and me picturing a sort of lucid dream with a talking cactus that's what I remember
||It was what popped up when I tried to find quotation marks||
I suspected you might know it lol
I lowkey really like chipotle
- lol
- I will now psychoanalyze both of us to figure out what gave you that impression of me
Nerdguy you sold me on it
sigh
typical *** people
I just decided to gaslight you
anyways I should go to bed before I become even more disillusioned than I already am
because you tunnelled
You can say white
you mean red people right
oh I'm just really really obviously someone who used to read Scott when he was good
omg do not-
and I'm good at spotting who has some vague degree of cultural influence from that cluster of personspace
That’s crazy
i’m literally a nomad
I would love to know what personspace I am in and what that is because I've only very briefly seen this a long time ago and my brain decided to retain it and not the piles of life lessons I could have learned
Squall it's 2025 you can't say that
and apparently it's somehow a me thing
-# ||this is a joke in case that's not clear||
reread it
it's worth rereading
also squall isn’t white
jokes aren't real
actually is this public knowledge
im not sure
i didnt know it at least
i do kind of hope mizu just accidently doxxed squ4ll again
Magica, is this a reference to the political and economic state of the world
Is this a reference to me gaslighting you
too early for a flashback, shame.




mizuwall on legion incoming
Just don't make it proxy loud it'll be fine
XFMP
I'm gonna make a scheduled for one at some point in the near future, my next couple days are busy
I can't nerdfence right now
Tba fencer no way
ok I'm going to bed before I fence myself off with the choirboy or smth
they call me the t(h)inker
no it's your opponent
no i’m just curious
I'm starting the fight next secret thing
I should make a legion script
why do I have beef with you 😭
but I'll totally win
no you shouldn't
no you're fighting against the tinker
Why would I fight
I'd lose
and not make profit
I'll just innkeep
but also what's the theme
Idk I just wanna build legion pithag
That probably decides the rest of the script right
... that's essentially what happens when you build legion vortox
(and actually want to make it work)
No half of the 108 does not work whatsoever
Would be nice to not make legion vortox script #2000
Then make legion vortox script #2001
anyway @sour harness tell me when you make it
it's almost done
need a couple more tf
dreamer is so cool i wish it was bluffable ever
just bluff a legion world :sotrue:
i unironically used poppygrower and it wasnt even the reason i made the script
pithag and xaan are the only actively bad interactions with pg, everything else is workable at worst
anyways good cant find the goblin here
ojo pithag is tough because it actually is a breaking strategy to become 'not the ojo'
or well that's the wrong term
strong
optimal moreso
idk i dont have a problem with that
like it is always your best option in a way that is consciously untrue of most demons
a large share of people universally play snv evil as "make outsiders and a fang gu" despite the script very consciously and carefully making this suboptimal
im talking about hag the player you wanna kill into the sweetheart then kill the sweetheart
yeah I'm saying this is a cool thing but that making a script where it's what's ever going to happen if you have ojo+pithag in the same bag and also demons that aren't ojo is going to be a time and a half
because ojo, like kazali and typhon, doesn't have a reason to not change out
Also Flowergirl
Ravenskeeper
and sometimes balloonist
you say this but also it’s literally the only way evil wins longtext SnV?
I've won longtext SnV with the Pit-Hag never making a Fang Gu or any outsiders.
Funny enough, they made the Demon every Demon type except the Fang Gu
What kind of question can / should be asked here?
Anything really
Clocktower related
I do have a question
But last one was asked less than a day ago
sometimes even not clocktower related
On a scale from 0 to 10 how tasty would every character be?
Longtext isn't real (i.e. isn't the script's designed balance environment and plays out in fundamentally different ways)
also that is false, evil has won a lot of snv games where they don’t do that it’s just the most popular thing to do in snv games with a pithag (and often results in evil losing when this plan goes wrong somehow)
in fairness I've seen relative winrates for snv longtext roles and they are...basically what people who are bad at the script think the shortform winrates are except actually real
(except with the sort of adjustments you'd expect for "starting demon always hardsolvable" like artist being way weaker than shortform and math being way stronger)
Politician: 0
Politician but Dutch: 8
This feels like a reference I don’t get
Johan de Witt (24 September 1625 – 20 August 1672) was a Dutch statesman and mathematician who was a major political figure during the First Stadtholderless Period, when flourishing global trade in a period of rapid European colonial expansion made the Dutch a leading trading and seafaring power in Europe, commonly referred to as the Dutch Go...
Ah
why is the singular fabled there
Zombuul 😨
i didnt add that
ok think about it
its basically old cannibalism
so if canni is in s tier
zombuul should be in a tier
I think the most tasty icons are;
Fisherman, Barista, Village Idiot?
the rest of the fableds are all in ok tier
you forgot tea lady town crier and widow
no notes 10/10
the cannibal has an eyeball on their token
rabbit taste pretty good so put magician up there
"I'll eat my hat" but if it was a tier list
and?
i dont like hats
People?
because sailor can taste either like, squid
but sailor’s actual meat is probably tough
because they work too much
for the purposes of the tier list above icons only
ok i’m trying to find a way to say choirboy’s cooked flesh probably taste good but i don’t know how to phrase it for it to not sound majorly wrong 💀
think of it like, baby pig
oops! thats the wrong direction !! you’re actually making it sound worse <3
Choirpiglet
I almost made that joke
Should we change the topic lol
Humans supposedly taste like pork
no no it's fine
I wouldn’t know I can’t eat pork
you do not have the privilege for that i fear
not specifying that you can't eat humans
I fear I shouldn’t elaborate
More squ0xxing no way
we got some more squall demographics yesterday
[25/04/2025] What are the most unfortunate seating arrangements you've seen in a game?
Tea Lady between the Demon and the Magician
none. as a competent storyteller i use the gardener on all my grims. yall wish you were as cool as me 😎
I wanted a BMR bag with high execution survival, so I put in a sailor, tea lady, and fool. The tokens fell in that order
LMAO
the worst thats happened to me was empath 2 neighbouring demon but i havent been playing for a long while so no really crazy stuff has happened yet
I've also been in a game where it was gambler/tl/sailor. I was the grandmother seeing the goon and we double tapped to confirm the trio. It was a zombuul game and basically they were just chilling and keeping the goon good but eventually the sailor got bored of it and chose someone else and honestly I don't blame them
It was an app game I was spectating with grim access and I mentioned the 'incredible tea lady placement' in spec chat and someone without grim asked and I just went "request grim and see" and they did and went "holy FUCK"
I’m basically white
Mizu says otherwise
I’m half white but I pass as white unless you’re also the same ethnicity as me
Oh yeah I'm similar
that game also had:
- fool got random DA protected, survived a double tap, outed lleech for the memes, and the magi outed minion to him
- demon eventually outed to the godfather, who acted super nervous and denied everything; demon proceeded to go up to the magician and go "I'M THE FANG GU WE'RE FUCKED I JUST OUTED TO THE MAGICIAN"
I pass as white but am 0% Caucasian
wait i did not know that
what's your 23-and-me composition
btw unrelated but i finish ranking how tasty are botc characters
yes the majority of them are simply not edible
Bootlegger is literally alcohol it should count
good alcohol? not the question you asked
omg i forgot about that
AGCCTACAGAACGCTACGCTCTACAGAAGGCTTGCAGTCCGATAACTCGTCGGCTG
ok
doxxed
here's the short list
Notably this is all the DNA I have
yeah make sense
all that's left after the incident
😭
tbf not a lot of non-white ethnicity pass as white
so i can probably narrow down to a few
The rest of my brain has rotted away into botcspeak
Is there really quadjank merch?
this is probably the sound someone would make if you tried to rip the dna strands out of their body
I said if silksong got a release window in March I'd do it (multiple people wanted it 😭). What we got was close so I'm gonna do it at some point
quadjank merch
what would quadjank march look like
just noticed how hard we pivoted off the question even by secret-thing standards
mizu try not to dox people challenge (impossible)
ok melbourner
you guys are just guessing states
i mean ur somewhere in the Go8 cities so
also the demonym is 'melburnian'
wauw youve actually got vati to pull out the sob react
quite rare
I have lived in two different cities that fit the description mizu gives but these cities also cover most of the country's population
guess how many cities i’ve live in
🥺
no
it’s joever
[25/04/2025] Where do you live? ||(jk ofc pls don't dox yourself)||
Traditionally the plane of demonic entities but I've been visiting Ravenswood Bluff a lot lately
I don't live
Inside of your walls
DEMON???
I know your city but I don’t want to actually dox you
oh I'm the demon but that's unrelated
just down the road from the Washerwoman, if you hit the library you've gone too far
Kazali, vigor, or cere holding LM?
to be clear I've lived in two different cities over recent time horizons and don't really identify myself as living in either
Or widow holding LM??
A major city in Ontario Canada
uhh depends which vati you're talking to
I’m going off the publicly available data online
I think the one who said that is #2
that's the one I would usually identify myself as living in and also the one I'm in right now but it's not the one I currently hold legal residence in
Oh yes, that'd explain why you have a different timezone to me
I live at 3828 Piermont Dr, Albuquerque, NM
Okay that makes sense
i think i’ve lived in 4 cities for over a year
and 5 if you count one of my 4 months adventure as living
I study in a different city than where I live so I spend some time in that city
But not there right now
Extremely and consistently messed up sleep schedule
yeah actually the one who said that is #2
I will not elaborate
actually DM I want to check if I was correct because I think that's the one anything publicly available says
Prompt: If you were given the ability to change a character to a B3 script, what would that be,what character and why?
we've had like 4 prompts in less than as many hours
||in a basement.||
📰
Mutant for Occultist 
I wanna hear more about the "worst seating arrangement you've ever seen" one
Ooh, 9p+1 clock 5 with a twin pair
Yeah, please don't answer the "Where do you live?" question
*truthfully
oh yeah my other answer to this is "12p+1 clock 6 twins game"
well I for one answered truthfully
Clock 2 in a Game where all the evil are in a line..idk WHY I GOT A CLOCK 2 I wasn't even poiso— oh wait philo
I do not live in Wisconsin
I forgor philo..
Neither
we've narrowed it down to the other 49, boys
[Virgin-executed TF], Minion, Demon, Virgin, TF, Chef, TF
Vati don't 📇 that
oh I already know your timezone
Another unfortunate seating arrangement was a ND who poisoned Math, got a 1 that solved the entire game.
hystrex give off utah vibe
no he doesn't
Further east
Multiple people on this server already know what state I'm in (like not just irls)
I'd be a little surprised if you didn't
I don't
Wow ok
probably one of the swing state
It's funnier to not say 🔥
I won’t
I think I already outed what country I lived long ago
will you dm Vati?
So imo I don't need to reveal again.
yea i know yours
I did
are you so fr rn
Yes
its okay mizu i'll dm you
A web of DMs spreading which state I live in is deeply funny to me
(it's like not quite enough to doxx me so as long as it's not ultra public it's whatever)
I thought you were in this dm web
actually can i ask you just one question about the state you’re in?
i'll dm you vati
no that was something else
just to make sure
I can if bhamber says idk
You can ask sure lol
it doesn't let me dm vati, rip
ok so like if squall go over there, what is the chance that he’s getting arrested by an ICE agent?
send friend req
I’m white passing enough as long as they don’t ask for my last name
I went to America in March so I should be okay
not for my impression of you
dude my first thought when I met you ever was “you look exactly like this person from [redacted]”
alright vati knows the truth now
lol
Would be deeply funny if somehow the game of telephone messed up the info
Alright now that I've been sufficiently doxxed what crazy seating arrangements have y'all seen
everything is the outside, it is what it is
Outsiders no way
One day vati will be like “oh hystrex is in New Jersey” and we all just bully him for being a victim of the broken telephone
oh I know you do
#beware-the-cabal-of-neighbors having a magician in just the right spot where they were mechanically confirmed not the demon to all minions because they knew there was a marionette (due to not learning as many minions) but the magician neighbored two minions
wait or was it the magician neighbored the actual demon and a minion? it was one of those, point was it was mechanically impossible for the magician to be the demon due to not having any room for a marionette
At home, duhh
Empath with the Virgin to their left and the Imp to their right, with the Scarlet Woman to the right of the Imp
Mars
I live where I have lived for the majority of my life
That's why you gotta have a recluse on your magician marionette scripts /j
I actually can't remember seeing any significantly unfortunate seating arrangements
as far away from High Priestess as possible
If it was between 2 minions then it would be a 3 minion game with marionette so only 1 minion token should have actually gone into the bag, and ST could have avoided that situation by choosing a different player to be the 3rd minion, but I guess if it was between minion and demon that was unavoidable
can someone add me to the game of telephone of hystrex's state
"st could have avoided that situation"
.. hey wait a second
wasn't the marionette thinking they were atheist
P. Sherman, 42 Wallaby Way, Sydney
I am also a fish

One ST set up a grim eerily similar to something they had previously mentioned in the sects-and-violets discussion channel ||(im politely saying it was clearly a gardener setup)|| They had the philotwin, ET, demon and other minion all at cardinal points, and a sober and healthy clock 3. So many sins.
I live on the road outside the final 3 con venue
it's very convenient
clock 5 1 minion twin game
lunatic next to gma who saw gma as mario while gma saw lunatic (unfortunate for them but it was great to view from afar)
#speculation-and-spoilers
Look outside.
26/04/2025
Create a script optimised completely around creating wacky Fisherman advice.
Ig not a question
But it occurred to me when everyone was making the most good/evil sided scripts
Oh right, you must be one of those loud motorcyclists that wake me up at 2AM
Heretic :)
That'd do it
Vortox
Heretic Vortox fisherman learns useful advice
Or no useless advice in a heretic game
But seemingly good advice in a vortox game
Yes, but it's heretic + vortox
Yeah
Town can literally skip and win lol
Oh yea
I like how "Execute the demon" dramatically narrows worlds here
is honestly such an interaction
The script isn't optimised to be good
Just Fishermsn advice
Drunk, evil twin, madness
Amnesiac led to my most interesting Fish advice
(LuF where 3 Amnes where tasked with getting the Fisherman to vote on and execute the Goblin claiming Goblin)
The Fisherman’s advice was, “Beware the will of the Many”
Have Lleech as one of the Demons & Barista as a recommended traveller (or give reasons for the Demon to be drunk such as Goon, Courtier)
If the Fisherman is the host and then asks for their advice when the Lleech is poisoned or the Fisherman is Barista'd, you can legit give them the advice "Kill yourself"
Minstrel has led to a funny fish situation I’ve heard of
“You picked the wrong day to do this”
It was in a Laissez un Faire game where a player suspected the Demon who was claiming lunatic as the Demon
So my advice was "Listen to what X was saying"
They also were the Mutant in a Cannibal double claim but they figured it out
Prompt:
The mist out of context thing you seen someone say during a game.
“Lets go hunting for a child” - A Slayer during a Lil Monsta Game.
Let's kill grandma for science
There are like, 15 quotes my group has said about the Virgin role that I could put here but probably shouldn’t
"his ass did NOT bounce!"
- Me, unfortunately about the Mayor
not mine but
the bottom emoji is crazy
hmmm, the racist matron game has some banger quote, but i don't think it's particularly out of context
the huh
oh
i remember when 4 different person shout at pi that they should kill themselves
(it was ||f4 and they were the lycan||)
i was in the other room
i so wish i got to see it
but uh the matron accidentally segregated players by race
oh i think ive heard this story actually
tbf the canonical lore is the matron has a change of heart
Yes
yes
a cutie patootie like me?
Incredibly
fuck
Absolutely
There is no one in this server I find more likely
really???
🥺
not even squall?
yeah not even me?
Nah squall is a close second but mizu is simply at unparalleled levels
The fact you keep trying to use the bottom emoji to make your argument is part of why I know it's definitely you
Grammatical error, ergo I win.
i actually give (the white people) an option
wait for whoever that's gonna see this conversation:
i'm not white
0%
not even white passing
You know, Squall pretended it happened by accident
i gave them the benefit of the doubt
why would you give mizu that
oh and not even argentinian
Mizu can doxx squall at any given moment
so there's so secret german lineage in there
anyway
the question i give my neighbor was
Because I didn’t know who it was
Yeah but that's what we're trying to have happen
Again I was in the other room
||do you want me to move all the white people in front, or do you want them to be moved to the side||
they choose the latter option, and i was simply the executor
I think I've posted your subcontinent here
that's crazy
me when i'm being doxxed
get doxxed to one of any of billions of people
as opposed to squall, who is doxxed to all the people who live at his address
Peak 🔥
I share a house with some university people and I may or may not have posted that address in our club server
I'm gonna rename this channel to #secret-doxxing because of how much it comes up
oh i've been there
Mizu also sometimes walks back with us despite living in the opposite direction of campus
this just means we need to hang out more 🔥
yeah but like not after 5 hours of clocktower and it's 2 am and I have 7:30am classes
Oh yeah huge update for the botcu doxxing scene, at least 5 more people in this server know my name now that we met at f3con yesterday
damn I need to go
To doxx me? 😭
I have a friend who went but I'm not sure if you met her
oh wait one of the squalllegion is there
i'll ask her to do my bidding
well I can't go to ||[redacted]|| now can i
No idea
did you play reptiles 2?
No
I'd just like to take the quick opportunity to say I can see peoples' states from my substack stats
or reply hazy try again or ok but hear me out
me too!
that's how i got hystrex
well you can't see mine, technically
I played 2 rooms and a boom, china shop, pickup quadjank, oops all amnes, SnV, pearly gates
damn
is this the catfishing squallegion
no
📝
the squallegion player in the catfishing game that doesn't exist to hystrex
So yeah if that friend played any of these I prob met her and if not then prob not
Wait huh
(the one where the demon bluffed invest)
LOL
anyway yeah it had a squallegion so now my pinboard full of arrows has more arrows on it