#secret thing
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I don’t take the blame for it but I get blamed for it
Classic
Happens all the time
please say more
Oh boy
I’ve mentioned it before I think
So I was running a legion game. Lights were off for ambience
I gave the chef a 3
But instead of holding up my index, middle, and ring fingers as I normally do
I held up my index, middle, and thumb
In the dark, the chef missed the thumb and felt confident it couldn’t be a legion game
I didn’t realize they weren’t just doing a weird bluff until day 2 and the game was over that day anyways
Good team was unbelievably stacked but it was kinda over anyways
Yeah
The amnesiac (dead in this shot) had the ability “Each night, learn the next clockwise Legion player”
The blank token is the “?” Token so you can see how far that went lol
Forgetting Chambermaid cant choose dead players 😭
oh that one is a doozy
me trying to hold those 3 up to check and failing how the hell do you find it comfortable to show a three without your thumb ???
I was learning ASL and that’s how you do 3
The way I do it is closer to ASL 6
And some of my new players know ASL so I’m making an effort to not be confusing
thats a good shout i think ill start doing that too
I mean I don't think that counts as a storyteller mistake
I got blamed for it lol
I think the worst mistake I ever made was accidentally letter the Fortune Teller get a yes on the demon after they died
Every google pic of asl numbers I can find uses the thumb for 3 ?
Yes, that’s why I did it
In my defense it was the night of a very very convoluted wizard wish
Look up ASL 6
i see a mix of both
Obviously you're meant to use both hands to show a 6, using your mind to levitate the grim in the meantime.
The worst mistake I ever made was letting a poisoned Slayer shoot the Demon dead
but most common?
probably letting the Chambermaid choose dead players
forgetting to put the magician in minion and demon info irl
or on the app, blindly clicking “these are your minions” and “this is the demon” for the minions, which gives away who the magician is
i did this yesterday
And you'll never hear the end of it <3
I forget to give demon bluffs and/or wake the butler N1 more than I should
Most common mistake is pretty hard because usually when I make a mistake I feel bad enough about it such that I make sure not to do it again
Literally same.
I don't think I've made any mistake twice. (though I haven't STd a lot of games)
They're mostly small enough to not affect game too hard, like not telling new Fang Gu who the Marionette is.
My worst mistake was giving an in-play character as Demon bluff.
I did that once but I realized on day 2 and they weren't claiming it
I realized it on day 1 and the Demon did claim it.
Chambermaid picking dead players…. I always forget
It is the most common mistake, I see it happen quite a lot.
Least confusing D3 with Innkeeper triple claim appearing that ended up with Evil winning because Mastermind.
(Demon was exed D2 because D1 exed Moonchild picked them)
Do you mean D2?
Demon exed D2, D3 was MM day.
Most common in-game mistake: forgetting to show bluffs until 30 seconds into day 1
Most common meta mistake: letting everyone wander off into 3 separate postgame chats before asking who's in for the next game
My favourite is when this happens, and then the ST announces that a mistake has been made.
Rip
I have an incredible knack for forgetting widow pings
Also sometimes I hyperfocus on tracking nightkill alignment and forget oracle also sees executees
I make too many mistakes, but I don't remember ever repeating one tbh
Hope I'll run out of mistakes to make eventually 🙏
giving legitimately impossible info in quantum gotta be up there 🗣️🗣️
This is because I feel really really bad after making one and always remember them when I'm in the same situation again
I wanted to at least stay consistent with the impossible info so I wouldn't count that as multiple mistakes
My most common mistake is waking someone out of order and giving them info when they should be dead. I've done that several times
I usually wake them up again and tell them to ignore that info
The better way to count
[21/Mar/2025] close enough
What’s your favourite message on this server in the last week or so?
#1104980997470171177 message
Not on the server technically, but this cracked me up while I was running TB and the demon tried to kill the mayor
what
Least freaky liveplayer
(this was in #botc-memes )
some beautiful dramatic irony in the longtext I'm running
imagine not just being in a fog whenever you are playing botc online
apprentice-boffin-alchemist-spy
Chaining 5 bad ST decisions in a row, impressive xD
Yes, Apprentice is the worst Traveller and I consider using it a mistake, fite me.
On my way to add Apprentice into a Dullahan under the Willows game to have three Vizier announcements.
3/24 You've been hired my TPI to write a film adaptation of blood on the clocktower. What kind of movie is going to be, and what is the plot going to be?
Brewing Trouble: murder mystery in Ravenswood Bluff
Idk lol
Maybe the investigator is the main character, that feels thematic. You follow them as they investigate the crime scenes and try to figure out who did it
Then at the end it's revealed via flashback that they're actually the drunk
Each of the characters have personalities and then at the point that the audience figures out who's evil it cuts to them in private in their full evil persona
There’s that fanfic I forgot the name of where the main character is the Mutant in an SnV game, that honestly seems like a dope concept for a film
Plenty of suspense as to whether they might get Fang Gu’d, some character drama as they don’t want to face their past, lots of fun stuff
oooo look alive sunshine! it's almost done and the wait for the final few chapters is killing me
apparently the author wrote herself into a corner with trying to find a reason/method for good to win (seriously, how does evil ever lose this position in an actual game)
I literally suggested if evil won't kill anyone at night or execute anyone in the day, just bring in a fiddler
but how do you make that narratively compelling
can you spoil the grim?
👀
just mark it with a spoiler or something
I kinda dislike how many demons are getting wild outsider mods
I get why they exist, because mechanically, but man playing in sentinel games is lame
I don't remember all of it, but ||final 3 is Fang Gu (jump used), Cerenovus, and Mutant cere-locked as Mutant||
is our MC ||the fucking mutant|| 😭
yeah
broski this can't be real
The game that happened in #the-day-the-music-died would fit well for a BotC movie with the intensity of everything in the final two days. Already has a big twist built into it.
and the reason evil doesn't want to kill anyone is because ||the Cerenovus used to be pre-rework Acrobat and the Fang Gu used to be the Sweetheart (as I said, jump used), and they are trying to advocate for Outsider Rights in the worst way possible||
what the hell is ||pre-rework acrobat|| isn't this snv
honestly writing yourself into a corner like this is so funny
like how did you even end up here
ngl the real mistake is ||having your MC be the mutant and not FG jumped to||
SO REAL
I just remembered that Axolator already laid out the plots, lol.
When I write my snv novelization I will apparently need to clarify ||what the cere was before being transformed|| because there's a right answer to this
wait what in the lore the ||cere became transformed? I mean ig it was a normal human brain until it got the mechanical half but is that like a real thing or just this one fanfic||
read it to find out more
This is vati snv lore but it's canon
I think all Vati snv lore is canon
||imo he and the pithag turned himself into a cyborg to amplify pre-existing psychic powers and the mutant was an early prototype experiment that didn't work out well, and also the cere is or was the/a savant||
but also the correct answer is definetly ||savant, think of the character development: you make everyone mad that they are what you used to be because you want them to know the pain you once felt||
ok important question
ok I've got a book of character progression right here: ||MC savant gets hurt or traumatised or something so they turn evil to become cere. Then, game starts, and is evil. The MC now gets deeper into the evil team/corruption or whatever and is barberswapped into being the demon because they are trusted. Then, there's some final grand redemption opportunity that was hinted at earlier and becomes snakecharmed and then tries to fight for good||
best player count for an snv novella
just based on my experience reading books, I feel like 12 players would be overwhelming early
11
gonna say 8 or 9
2 minion game has a lot of potential yea
If you tell it from the evil team perspective you don't need to introduce all the townsfolk early
wait here me out: BMR novella where the mc is the ||goon [filler text]||
boo 🗣️
Livevoice syndrome
i've actually talked about my vision for this before
although it isnt a movie, its a tv show
ok hear me out: every few chapters the perspective changes and it's almost like a slow, gradual grim reveal for the reader, but concealed/vague specifically so that the reader doesn't know the demon at the end of the game
every month or so I'm like "yeaa I should write a book" and then I start thinking rationally and stop
Stop doing that and go write it
hmmm, i think telling the story from good (or starting good)'s perspective make sense right?
but... but... I have like no time to write a whole book
Find it
evil kinda stripped (hehe) all of the mystery
said the person who push a button every 90 days
Lore moment
if it's from evil's POV, then it's less of a mystery and more about the tension of "will the MC be executed" ig
I feel like an average Dire game from Dire's POV would on average be a good book
Crazy statement
I'm not trying to speak to Dire's internal monologue or whatever
Simp
From the evidence I have seen, barely
I just mean that it's either "Dire is good and has game-winning info but can't convince anybody and ends up framed as a minion" or "Dire is evil and ends up super sus as evil but is really confidently and aggressively accusing and just needs to convince like 2 more people"
i think you could add good tension by also making it abt the bluff structure, make it feel like more of a conspiracy
Yeah there's a thing though
It's important to stop your soul from getting eaten
Hard to explain it to others and hard to enforce it upon yourself
ive written clocktower fiction before and thats usually how i structure it at least
But you do
true! (i'm having trouble comprehending)
Trouble verbing? Blood on the Clocktower reference
hmmm
Anyway aren't you meant to be one of my cultists or something, just listen to the vibes
Dire is good and has game-winning info
you are describing socials
socials are the best info
BotC screwball comedy would go hard tho
i jokingly wrote this with some people for a Theater Class I had last year
25/3: Name a group (either fictional characters or real people) - if they hypothetically played a game of BotC, how would it go? Why would it go poorly/well? Would they play another game after that one?
A long time ago I did an impression of Donald trump playing this game
who is the storyteller in this hypothetical scenario
I wonder if I can find it
It can be you, it can also be someone else in this group
Choose whatever makes most sense
“Now you see if I was the Imp then I would be the best imp, I really would-I have a friend who was an imp, really nice guy, and he told me “you know Donnie you’d be a really good Monk” and I said “thank you very much” because i am the greatest blood on the Clocktower player in the entire world, unlike sleepy Imp Joe who can’t even finish his sentence, just the other day he said “Made in America” was two words-can you believe it? Made, in America it’s like so clearly not two words but sleepy joe would never get that because he’s not patriotic enough for this country”
There it is
You can tell how old it is because I reference Joe Biden instead of Kamala Harris
Rain and her friend group. Idk the exact dynamics, but I bet Rudy would have a lot of fun being evil
And if they could potentially do a 2 Minion game with someone like Aunt Fara as ST
See this is why I asked this question, holy shit thatd go hard
Alternatively, replace with the Golem Hall crew and maybe Nara as ST. Kinda fits to me tbh.
Nara seems like she’d be a good ST if no one wanted to do it at the moment
I will also add that, yes, I was looking for a good sized group.
Went through a few options in my mind and then it clicked :)
Been in a bit of a second Danganronpa phase, so let’s say a collection of them (probably the most entertaining would be the second game’s cast)
If it was a regular game, could see them playing it again. Actual death game variant though, no
Twilight tries adding Mathematician to TB for everypony's second game and gets frustrated when they don't understand her triple Spy misreg setup.
Despite their elements, Applejack and Rainbow Dash get super into the game and pull off a crazy Imp + Poisoner win.
Pinkie Pie hardclaims 8 different roles every day, and inexplicably has a 100% success rate of both baiting the demon as Ravenkeeper and perfectly protecting as Monk. Her favorite script is S&V, but the ST just has to trust that she's complying with madness (she always does).
Fluttershy hates lying and being accused by her friends. She thinks she can't play the game, but ends up having fun being the group's Storyteller.
Rarity has been on the good team every single game, has never lied even once about her info, but everyone campaigns to execute her anyway because she's "reading Spy."
Spike is the butler
The Owl house cast try and play, but then get wound up by the fact that the demons in the game are not accurate to the ones in the Demon realm.
Eda then realises that the game seemed familiar because there is basically the same game in there "Court of the Wild Magi".
Luz and Amity are often on the same team, but when they don't they often catch each other out but play along anyway. Amity is at an intense disadvantage when evil whenever her siblings play too. Eda is always suspected as evil but enjoys it.
Hunter takes the game super seriously but he doesn't like the game that much, even though he is very good at it. Willow and Hunter co-ST pretty often because of this.
Gus has a lot of fun changing his claims and playing chaoticly. He is probably has the most fun playing the game out of most the cast. Camila would take a small bit getting the game but when it's played would also often Storytell. She doesn't like being evil.
Pinkie Pie strikes me as the kind of person to pull Gambler and threaten her own life if someone doesn't hardclaim to her
the "listen if you don't tell me the truth I WILL DIE!!!" gambit
thats just me
well I haven't seen you and pinkie pie from my little pony friendship is magic in the same room
true!
what i normally do as a gambler is
"hey you! i've chosen you to the subject of my gamble! smile now if you don't tell me the truth, i will die and tunnel on you for the rest of the game"
normally works
guh 😔
I mean he's still blaming Biden
The Fellowship of the Ring, it'd probably go pretty good, but Boromir would get corrupted as the Goon & Gandalf would get shab-rezzed
Holy shit
Sam is literally the frame to Gollum the demon
The Danganronpa v3 cast plays SnV with one traveler, monokuma storytells.
Kokichi would become a scourge on the app
(time isn’t real)
You are a Minion. there’s a damsel in play.
its d1
somebody has immediately opened up with publicly hard claiming damsel, saying “guess me you won’t, evil team”.
do you guess them? why or why not
depends on who the person is but most likely no. i like damsel more as a last resort winrate than a silly d1 rerack. also i try to avoid playing outed evil like the plague
No because even if that's within my range and decently likely to cause a win, minion is my favorite character type to play and I don't wanna rerack
No, only because my group does this stuff all the time
i also enjoy being evil too much
no I like minion :3
Like if I did that I could easily brush it off as a joke and avoid that suspicion
based
yeah both times where I've played FoR as a minion I've guessed the spartacus in the first two days and like
yay I win
but :(
I wanted to be evil
absolutely not. nobody in my group would actually hard claim damsel as damsel
No, I believe this has happened to me and I was barely even considering it on day 1. I hate playing outed evil, and I hate denying I'm evil when everyone believes I am. Even if the Damsel was real, as others have stated already the game would end way too quickly so I wouldn't get to enjoy playing as a minion.
Nah. I wouldn’t do that. Maybe if I were the vizier or something
it'd be really funny to guess them. yes
depending on the type of minion
but like
sometimes you need to punish people who play damsel like that
so if it's not too hard (depending on script), i'll damsel guess
Time is real I spent some with your mom last night [27/mar/2025]
how did you get your username?
fuck if I know
Idk I had this username before I gained consciousness, ask middle school me
vaticide is the killing of a prophet or a poet -- which are the same thing -- from vates, which is one of the things I am, which can itself or from some of its roots be translated as "prophet", "poet/bard" (in the sense of "divinely inspired/touched poet"), or "madman"; the "prophet" part is self-explanatory from this
I shorten it a lot of ways depending on what I think I or other people will understand; currently I shorten it to Vati because this is the variant closest to the name of a dead friend
It definitely used to be hiiistrex then people couldn't handle minor confusion so I changed it
wait that's why your substack is "Vates Rising"
yes
ooo
i would definitely pronounce that in the same way as "omg hiiiiiii"
It has been misspelled so much and it's really funny
Highstrecks
hiistrex
hiisterex
hitex
hisex
hiiiiiiiiistrex
hitsex
hi3strex
sex
All things I have been called
Putting this on the wall of Things That People Have Said
Tis a controversial opinion, that
what else is on that wall
Idk I didn't think this but through
but
Straight on the Wall!
oh yeah requiem are you regaining your third pronoun now that you have space for it
oh right
it's grown back
The pronouns are multiplying
This is the future the woke mind virus wants
😭
I like Mistborn, took my own spin on it, and here I am
sunbird is a fire spell card from wizard 101, which was a game I played a lot.
Autumn is a name I'm trying out andgoing by, and I enjoy it >:)
om nom nom
And my name is Dylan
So real
I’m pretty sure I slammed my hand on my keyboard when I was 11 and added some Es
Then I shortened it because nobody could say it
I've always loved the Cyndaquil line from Pokemon with it being my favorite pokemon line, Pokemon Silver was my favorite game as a child and regularly played and during my deepest depression Pokemon was a comfort and especially Pokemon Heartgold. So naturally, I liked names involving Quilava or Typhlosion.
I added 'Adorable' in front since it felt too lonely a name without some modifier and I preferred a positive modifier, and so 'Adorable Quilava' became my regular name for games.
HOLY SHIT THIS IS WHERE I GOT MY NAME TOO
I WAS GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT GAME
3 pip fire spell that’s like 275-325 damage or something
yup
I think a bit more
actually i sounds about right
the lower end does at least
275
Upper end i feel its more in the 350 range but lemme check
The 75% chance when it does cast it is beautiful
Ah yes
Ahhh right
Was thinking of storm shark which is 375-435
ye
Storm wizard here lol
Mainly a fire wizard
That's my main
But I love a good death wizard
I tried fire/death. I didn't know what I was doing haha
legally death wizards have to be goths. that's non-negotionable
hisex 😭
oh right my name
so i don't actually have a concrete online name
i get called different things in different server 😔
what level. I managed to get to... well a level 60-70 area
that’s a wild way of living imo
without a single online name I’d crumble…
Ok nya-hamber
me and my friends in middle school named ourselves after the shittiest computers we had at the time
mine was the one that stuck somehow
mainly bc “Mr. Dell” actually kinda roles off the tongue
I do not remember what the other two were
dell is a banger ngl you lucked out
Currently 126 and still playing
damn ur old
Kid me got to level 29 without membership and I feel almost embarrassed at how much effort that took when xp level requirements are exponential and the free to play area ends at level 10
Yeah little bit
Death/fire is now viable due to recent updates
I think fire is best going into myth
This is all pvp. for pve everyone just gets feint from death
yee
I loved the look of feint
So I got it
then i carried on
hey look the spells look awesome
if I can get back i nto my account 😭
there is NO way this game is real
This was a memory injected into my brain a decade ago
Nobody plays it
People play wizard101 still
oh i still go on it from time to time
Its v nostalgic
They really succeeded there
A couple years ago it got a graphics update
Which was nice
you should try secret agent wizard boy and the international crime syndicate
it exists
Oh yeah it’s great
I don’t really know anything about it but. 
Looks sick actually
Not exactly the same (mostly since the one I play is more turn based combat)
Oh wait autumn you’re British
ye
Did you play on EU servers? Because they closed those
I did play on America Servers tha-
oh
oh
ok
Well I also had an account on EU servers which is my recent account
I had to make an Animal Crossing Pocket Camp username like…5? 6? years ago and i was in a star wars phase but also i was like what if it was “boi” because that’s funny
then it just spread everywhere as I got progressively more online
it was
and it definitely did not hold up
but it’s too late to change anything
besides most people just call me “Kenobi” anyway so it’s chill
Find it
I’ll help you finish celestia fuck I hate that world
Lowkey I kinda hated all of arc 2 i don’t get it
im ethan and also a guy and also there's a 7
i think the 3 came about when I first made a reddit account and it seemed Cool
i am incredibly unoriginal
it's actually pretty fun
no name, no face, no pronoun
and almost no location if squall didn't doxx the fuck out of me
Mizu is just a Moth cultist don't worry about it
based
How in the world do 2 other people also have names from Wizard 101, I got Magicaking after playing that game and thinking I was the coolest person ever (I am actually the least cool person ever) and now I have slowly been trying to rebrand to just Magica to avoid the cringe
Nah, you're cool
I decide that, trust
We need to get a botc wiz group going lol
We can play it in the game lol
And the get banned for saying “kill yourself” as the imp
lucan gaming is gonna be crazy
i still remember that game where 4 good player tell the lycan “kill yourself” in f4
in person 😭
@vital grove lock in we're making an unofficial wizard101 group
OMG wizard101
i have not played it a single time
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but i saw this a few weeks ago
worth the 4 hours
Oh damn it’s like actually pretty up to date
Wrong autumn
But hell yeah let’s do it
I mean it came out in 2009(?) and is still going pretty strong
Who a game is “for” is subjective anyways
In what sense? It’s an mmorpg so it kind of has to have stuff in common
vibes
Helpful lol
No it plays w101 too
well, at least I know it did at some point
Oh even better
the 12 angry men from 12 angry men. they'd probably kick the racist guy out after game 1 (or just not invite him in the first place if this takes place after the movie) but otherwise they'd have a good time i think, maybe henry fonda could do the second knife trick again. i know juror 4 would be great as evil at least i'd love to see him draw the imp token
yes it did take me 2 days to think of a good answer to that
holy shit it was worth it
you're cooking
holy shit iconic
^
Can we execute mizu for science? It's SnV btw
I'm voting for it
Me too
me three
VG stands for Video Games, I chose it when I was 8 and stuck with it since
we need to do it for vortox
The name of a satellite, as shown by a very specific frame in a music video by Porter Robinson a while back. In retrospect, it's odd that it wasn't the name of an actual Japanese person I stole.
As for the actual name, I was forced to change it When Discord did the thing and the obvious pun was obvious.
defense: i'm the good twin
No you're my evil twin
shut up the demon still think squall is a witch give me 2 days and you'll be the philo snakecharmer
It’s Japanese for “future” iirc
I don’t imagine it’s a super popular name
Also porter robinson mentioned!
My friend is a huge fan so I feel like I’ve heard a decent bit of music just by being near him
oh yeah squall you have to answer your own question
My name is mihael and my nickname is miha. Crazy story I know
Oh whoops I you’re so right
Okay I used to have a different username and I thought it was cringe so I decided to change it.
I liked storm (shoutout wizard101 for giving me a love for literally everything in my life: science, purple, periodic table, storm, magic, etc), so I decided my name should be Storm or a synonym of it (ideally starting with S). I googled synonyms and squall (had to become Squ4ll because squall is taken believe it or not) was born
why the letter 4?
Easiest substitute I could make for a letter without losing the meaning
I use squ4llss on some platforms when Squ4ll is taken by that German guy
-# I think he’s German iirc
I see…
Yo???
Ok but wheres the wow group
I am frothing at the mouth
we only play good games here sorry
Ok like I love wizard101 but wow is simply just a better mmo
And Nerdguy is just me announcing “I’m a nerd”
cool pfp btw i only just realised what's going on in it
This is true
PowerPoint is better but like
I’m used to Google
google is free its goated
Exactly
tbh my image editing go-to is photoshop
i'm sure google does slideshows better though
Found the video frame. Video: https://youtu.be/fzQ6gRAEoy0
My friend: "Oh, neat! Uh, ||why is the moon like that||? Oh, ||they're all gonna die I get it||."
this is a really specific question but in photoshop is there an easy way to remove little shaded borders of stuff (I wanted to remove the small gradient/border around botc character icons)
I'm sure this is the best place to ask
random german guy's biggest opp
I remember looking him up and being impressed that someone actually took the name
I’m assuming it’s a guy this is not a good thing I have no idea what gender they are
Slowly but surely I’m clawing that fame away
My blog post comes up when you google it
Oh yeah part two coming soon, just need to finish my thoughts on sentinel
Any sentinel takes welcome
I'm running my 13 outsider script
Oh dear god
Yk I made a script like this once
I can’t remember who inspired it
Maybe sh99er?
Oh lord poisoner heretic (dies from cringe)
The poisoner is usually drunk tbh
From what lmao
Oh god right outsiders are townsfolk
Is drunk a TF here

You have like 1 info townsfolk
i don't unfortunately
Drunk BH who learns evils
the only thing i could recommend is doing either an opacity select
and then deleting everything not in that
or just use a magic wand and go from there
GUYS IM RUNNING THE 13 OUTSIDER SCRIPT
tell us how it goes
0/10, Boomtown has no boomdandy.
"I wish my ability becomes the following: once per game, during public statements or nominations, publicly choose a player and cast fireball: they and their alive neighbors die."
granted, but it turns off at final 5
8d6 solves all your problems
granted, it turns off at final 5, and I'll ask them to make a dex saving throw (your spell save DC is determined by 8 + a modifier based on how smart I think you are)
no proficiency unless you can actually do magic
on a successful save, they live
no proficiency unless you have played wizard 101
would you accept if players claimed to have evasion and could take half/no damage from it?
oh the reflex save is genius
throw a large, heavy object at them and see if they can dodge it
my players are not nimble enough to justify having rogue skills
@shadow shale
seriously a good idea though
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
take a ball and throw it at players and if they get hit they die
this includes the Demon
oh id totally do this
that sounds fun as hell
the demon after not realizing what the cost is
that's what i'm saying 😭
My name is whatever seat I am sitting in.
Noooooo my group thinks I'm an idiot
Better hope they roll low
question: if I hold the target down with force do they get disadvantage
Actually some people in my group are running a botc dnd thing (not the Steven Medway thing) so they might love it
Stealing that idea
if I roast them hard enough with my silver tongue do they get -1d6
I mean it outs you so sure
That’s its own wish
the fireball already outs me
it's a public action no?
silver tongue? axolotl behavior
Delayed blast fireball
It’s a wish you can cast any spell of 8th level or lower
DBF is 7th level it’s fair game
is this w101?
d&d
Dungeons and dragons
I like the edit from WoW to W101
same thing
It’s silly and goofy and fun
You like fun and whimsy
Oh that’s valid
high fantasy?
There are other settings and other systems
the forgotten realms as a place? most GMs don't use it ime
Didn't you think until recently that dnd was an unstructured game without rules and also that it was the only ttrpg
yes
Anyway next time livetext doesn't rack I'm running Fiasco
like i wanna say "it feels white" but i knows that not true because i like the card design of mtg
it's hard to put it in words
i like stuff like darkest dungeon, but tokien doesn't have the same interest in me
but not that i don't like elf, because i like frieren
you should talk to quilava about that
what's fiasco
narrativist GM-less ttrpg that's kind of "Coen Brothers film RPG"
also meant to be 3-5p so it's optimized for livetext 'numbers'
you know my goal for this year is to actually play a dnd campaign
someday
maybe
the animal you mean right?
No I'm going to force you to play some horrific Changeling: the Dreaming campaign I come up with and have to drop partway through after going too method
you're like 4 raccoons all in the same car
raccoons are so cute
it's amazing i love it all the rules fit on 1 page
what the hell is that 😭
what class even interest me in dnd
oh bard is cool
So the World of Darkness is this line of TTRPGs that are like, evil goth urban-fantasy-horror stuff based around magick and supernatural creatures being real and based but also incredibly cursed. It's good. Steven Medway's favourite game is Vampire: the Masquerade which is the most famous one of them so it's officially TPI-endorsed
The best wod gamelines are Vampire, Mage, and Changeling and Vampire is the one that is understandable by like normal human beings so I prefer the other two but my Mage lore is incoherent and anticanonical so we're doing Changeling
(also Mage is, uh, designed to be a setting more than it's designed to be a playable game)
i have a flowchart
of course you do
you know you don't have to humor me and go through it if you don't want to
In Changeling you're one of the fae but in a human body and it's complicated and you have awesome cool powers that you get by believing you have awesome cool powers but also the oppressive normie universe is trying to eat your soul so you have to prevent it from doing so. It's all very based and a literally true statement of actual reality
no i'm interested
don't pretend you're surprised
I mainly know Mage, and the fan games Genius the Transgression and Princess the Hopeful
"I want to pick a d&d class!"
great, first question: how do you solve problems?
- Physically!
- Magically!
- Skillfully!
magically
Those are both Chronicles/"new WoD" which is a bit different
Yea. Tbh, I don’t have enough experience with those to know the difference well
In the mid-2000s they cancelled all the original WoD games because the books weren't selling enough because they'd built up a bunch of completely insane incoherent and unplayable lore, so they made "new WoD" to be not that
I’ve heard tales of the old WoD but I don’t know much else
But it was never that popular so eventually they rereleased "old WoD" as "classic WoD" and renamed nwod to "Chronicles of Darkness"
magic comes in many forms, which appeals to you?
- We're on a Mission from God
- This is fantasy right? So like, Fantasy Magic?
- Uh nature? They aren't called Magic Mushrooms for nothing
- Magical Fairyland!
- THUNDERBOLT AND LIGHTNING VERY VERY FRIGHTENING ME
- DEATHHHHHH
god i was 16 when i found this
and you can tell
And rereleased the cwod/owod games with less incoherent lore so they're actually accessible and people can play them
(and then released fucking v5 which makes all the Cappadocian vampires friends what the hell)
it's giving buzzfeed
hmmm
B
And where did you get this Fantasy Magic
- Sick rhymes
- Top of the class in magic school
- Maybe she's born with it. Maybe she's a...
- Sufficiently advanced steampunk is indistinguishable from magic
- Can I have a magical sugar daddy? That sounds rad
E
ofc
WARLOCK
Most mortals are short-sighted, power-hungry, and ambitious. Most demigod-level beings are hungry for mortal souls, patient, and have power to spare. Hence, arrangements are made.
As a Warlock, you didn't do a whole lot for your magical power, but you certainly paid a lot.
- Hooray! Poor life choices!
(the flowchart keeps going to subclasses btw)
i see i see
i wasn't done
So, who's bought up your soul?
- the devil, obv
- I... kinda got tricked by a fairy
- In an ironic twist nobody saw coming, AN ANGEL!
- Cthulhu F'taghen!
- Look, I dunno, just let me minmax
oh no absolutely
we had a class for that it was called cleric or paladin or if you really wanted to be a charisma fullcaster there's a sorcerer for it
hmmm who's the hottest here
they're all pretty hot
are we talking like elf fairy or erlking here
also is the devil lucifer or ars goetia
I would love to nerd out about d&d ut I am busy, anyways I like making spell names script names (Vicious Mockery goes hard as both a spell and script name and nobody can tell me otherwise)
closer to erlking, they're typically a lord or lady of the fey
hmmm, oberon huh
not like the head honcho lucifer but like some demon guy that contractually must be evil
retvrn to 3.5 warlocks that are necessarily chaotic-or-evil and can be built around every core stat except wisdom and every stat array including 3/3/3/3/3/3
I’m kind of my groups DM but if I ever do get to actually play I really want to be a fathomless warlock
stealing my role smh
or... the phb says mephistopheles. like the guy from Cats?
mizu learning a new opportunity to stalk squall
and why am I in none
It’s my girlfriend, my brother, his girlfriend, and a mutual friend
nevermind
(the mutual friend is vati)
Damn why do the people who play the high-mechanics social deduction game about demons all turn out to be goth nerds
No way what word do they learn
Actually fuck that’s new Squ4ll lore
direhands
wdym
hmmm, i think i have made a choice
but can you elaborate on the last option
I’m assuming that’s hexblade
i don't like that one
LMAO
Yeah okay basically your patron is a big sword and gives you sword powers and also magic
ew
that makes it sound cool wtf squall
ok i'll take the fairy
It’s a common minmax thing and also used in niche setups
B
I’m a good salesman
moth cultist, makes sense
Warlock: The Archfey
Your patron is a lord or lady of the fey, a creature of legend who holds secrets that were forgotten before the mortal races were born. This being's motivations are often inscrutable, and sometimes whimsical, and might involve a striving for greater magical power or the settling of age-old grudges. Beings of this sort include the Prince of Frost; the Queen of Air and Darkness, ruler of the Gloaming Court; Titania of the Summer Court; her consort Oberon, the Green Lord; Hyrsam, the Prince of Fools; and ancient hags.
that was fun!
as an archfey warlock i think you do like illusory magic and the kinda stuff that makes people go mad
when you think about it dominate person is kinda like the cerenovus
oh you can teleport starting at 6th level that's cool
oh so cerenovus
oh and you can send people to the endless dark
what have i stumbled into
alternatively the shadow realm
We're trying to explain tabletop rpgs to mizu
or "an illusory realm" if you're the phb
an average secret-thing conversation
Anyway I'm gonna force livetext to play a vtm campaign in lieu of it never wanting to play botc
oh to be an ancient hag
btw what is the endless dark/shadow realm
it's never specified, but you can send people there starting at 14th level
not the gulag
unless you were asking what i was referencing with either of those
anyway so when is the secret thing d&d5e campaign (because ofc it's gonna be 5e we just did this whole thing)
actually fuck that we should play crash pandas
Can we play a good ttrpg and not a bad one
yeah no i realized
e.g. pathfinder 1e
depends on a lot and the style of DMing, some DMs run sessions in an hour while others lean closer to 3-4 and still others make it a whole-evening thing dinner break included
Can the secret thing wizard101 players join the secret thing d&d5e campaign
is dnd5e not good?
The system is fine
it's the most popular ttrpg but not because it's a good system
The company behind it isn't
it's specifically designed for a very specific style of play and kinda flounders if you don't do exactly high-combat high-magic dungeon-crawling adventures with it
It's too normie and ends up as a sad mix between dnd's fundamentally gamist design philosophy and "what if we simplified everything so the gamist part isn't fun anymore but didn't replace it with anything actually playable"
<--- had to run a legal battle in 5e
Oh come on. D&D 5e is fine. It tries to do a lot of things, and is ok in most of them.
If you want to play a gamist ttrpg play pathfinder or 3.5, if you want to play a non-gamist ttrpg play something that isn't a dnd
sure
it's also not very beginner-friendly? there's a ton of overhead and combat is really mechanical in nature
like compare it to a more narrative-style ttrpg like monster of the week or something from savage worlds, which are way simpler and way looser with rules
ye
5e (and d&d in general) are way crunchier
Anyway I'm going to introduce mizu to ttrpgs with some shit like GURPS Technomancer
It is crunchier
hey vati
Crunch trial by fire
custom script discussion lancer campaign when
My sessions run 4-5 hours but it's because it works well for our group
I've never been that into mecha genre stuff if that's the game being discussed
But ye. I will admit D&D tries to be "a jack of all trades, master of none, and oftentimes much more mediocre than a master of one"
lol it's just us
no one else
Now I'm just trying to feel out what's the simulationist limit people here will accept
So I can subject them to GURPS Technomancer
Ok Squ4ll
Time to make a wizard101 campaign
Wizards can only cast summon Elemental bc
hmm...
wait
Life Wizards are straight up druids
don't tell my players but I've been secretly preparing to just run the entirety of pirate101 as a campaign because it's also just turn-based grid combat
They aren't even wizards
pff
Ice wizards are abjurers in D&D speak
wait crash panda is so funny wtf
Most wizard101 combat is weird because they are more summoners than anything else
they don't cast fireball (except if it's meteor strike a 4 pip spell in wizard101 but hilariously a 9th level spell in D&D 5e)
just direct beams of magic are reserved pretty much exclusively to wand hits
this opens up some hilarity
dont recite the deep magic to me witch, i was there when it was written
i also have this trained on my storm wizard lol
Yee
goated spell
But yes
If this is 4 pip spell (which is tiny in wizard101 terms)
And is a 9th level spell
Therefore, stormzilla is around a 15th level spell
I think imaging the wizards in wizard101 being like, god level wizards in terms of D&D 5e is hilarious to me for some reason
Adept Pyromancer - Is a 9th level caster
Journeyman. You get meteor strike at level 16
Fair
I wouldn’t know much in that regard, since I only do Pathfinder in both 1e and 2e
And also an partially engaged with Star Wars Edge or Empire or blades in the dark
WIAT
PF1 is so unrelentingly based and no one ever sees the vision for my horrifyingly munchkined arcane-bloodline sorcerer with Sacred Geometry
Sometimes. I loved the monster class levels thing. Mystic Theurge is so silly on spellcasting monsters
I am getting it off the wiki
ohh yes you're right my bad
i'm cooked
Tempest spam from level 28 has made me forget how to think
i'm so mad about the stupid tempest spell quest
||The boss of Kingmaker is *exactly * the sort of thing I’d build. 17th level Druid casting and 16th level Sorceer||
level 18 D&D, level 22 Wizard101
Imo, as cool as Stormzilla is, and it is cool
They cooked with Helephant
true helephant goes hard
And yes, Helephant is not that good a spell
But that's exactly it
When I played
I saw Stormzillas all the time
Because it's really good
But a Helephant is rare
So when you do see it
well
to be fair helephant costs 1 pip more
ye
Triton is a better comparison
It costs 1 pip more and does less damage
I didn't realise that it cost 1 pip more for a while
I thought stormzilla was 6
Oh you wanna know a really horrifying build? The remastered Curse of the Crimson Throne has ||The Mother of Thorns. 4 ranged attacks a round with 3d6 sneak attack on each and poison||
storm is just better
damn
||Abusing fear gaze and shatter defenses to the max||
ye
I remember the spellwriting but when it was coming out it was just for like tiny spells
So it didn't really matter much
I just noticed it because helephants spellwriting is very funny to me. It looks like its a pretty common pattern
But i know that one line I understand...
The other I don't!
:P
they sure do like their icons :p
clear 5 shields (on your opponent) to make a Damage over time effect of your own school. it lasts 4 rounds and does a total of 150 base damage per shield you clear (so maximum 750). then do 440 fire damage
it's kinda nice tbh
true
that's kind of how most of these go
I see I see
To be fair
I think that is really cool just from my pov
That makes so many more cards interesting
oh yeah it's awesome
it makes your beginner spells actually viable
fire elf is huge in pvp now
oh it is
(maybe they've opyimised it)
lots of off school hits
ikr i love it
hah Evil Snowman. Good vibes
That is prolly also just one of my fave spells off of vibes
was huge last meta but not so much anymore
oh yeah it's great
fuck I should have done that
yeah there are some awesome spell fusions
and some meta ones that are boring
ooh yeah and harmful auras
i am not much of a meta enjoyer
I enjoy jank
but
and ye i'd rather lose a lo than do it
i've wanted to do pvp for so long
the problem is that the only active queue is max level and i'm not there yet
Can we talk about this btw
3/28: Today is my birthday! Create a birthday-themed custom character
Birthday Tinker: You may die at any time if it's your birthday
Also Happy Birthday!
Why wouldn't I just say Y=1?
Slightly more mid abilities
Birthday Boy (Outsider): Once per year, during the day, all players (except you) must publicly sing happy birthday to you.
Birthdayman (Outsider): Players that don’t clap for your and only your death might die at any time.
The lore is that they pick the length of the year to get more presents, but they get less presents with more birthdays
One time I made a joke script for someone's birthday. All the characters were puns based off her name, some were reskinned official characters and some were homebrew. There was also a fabled where something bad might happen to anyone (except her) who mispronounced any of the character names or used the wrong name
Unrelatedly, the (old) lycanthrope chose the entire evil team and thought he was drunk
Muchacho (TF): Three players know they are holding candles. If you nominate all three, your team wins.
Birthday Person (TF): All players know you are the Birthday Person
now watch as you can press everyone for information
(and also die n2)
it’s actually not a better nwm
[Yesterday at 3:29 PM]: What are the 3 most damaging Outsiders in your opinion and why?
Heretic, Poli, and Damsel as well for me
Barber can also be up there if it dies late game
actually imma do a quick question change
same concept but i think this is more interactive
Honestly fair since i can’t imagine there’ll be any super spicy takes with the top 3 worst Outsiders
im finding a tier list and ask y'all to rank outsider
Unreleased spoilers ||there's a reason that they're the ones on midnight||
Unless someone who actually believes Golem is top 3 wants to come out 
(I do think it’s more of an Outsider than people give it credit for but it’s still definitely one of the more helpful ones)
[Yesterday at 3:29 AM] Rank all the Outsider in BOTC from most to least damaging.
Here is the tier list: https://tiermaker.com/create/blood-on-the-clocktower-characters-travellers-and-fabled-17513704
You are allow to modify the amount of tier(s) as well as their names, as long as there are at least 3 tiers
You also can present it as an alignment chart if you're extra into that
i could be very off with some of these
couldn’t really get a good feel for saint recluse and snitch
I love how the losscon outsider tier excludes two of the three losscon outsiders
Anyway damsel is secretly a townsfolk that gets one of the strongest evil pings in the game
(in the same sense that klutz is secretly a townsfolk with a good ping)
saint and klutz never proc vati
why is mutant outed
Once they die, they tend to out themselves to clear up confusion from their earlier claims. If they die due to their own ability as well, it pretty much clears them as Evil outside of Evil plays like with Cerenovus
Nah saints are never in games so that loss con isn’t real. Also I don’t think I’ve ever seen klutz lose a game
Saint is secretly also an evil ping because whoever is claiming saint is evil

you’ve never seen a klutz loss???
Ok in Fairness it’s like
2/88 games I’ve played of SNV
I’ve seen exactly 2 klutz losses
Most of the time they just pick their most trusted player and it works out. That or the one time they just yolo picked a twin and got it right lmao
klutz as twinsolver goes hard
I’ve seen at least 3, and I definitely haven’t played 88 games of SNV
ive played three games as klutz and picked an evil twice
🙈
in my defence one of them was the marionette smhsmhsmh
I’m so glad this got the reactions it did
PM is very script dependent
With demon mobility, it is far more damaging than without
Demon mobility per se isn't the axis I think about
It's a mix of how much other droison there is and if the demons are, for lack of a better description, misdirected
Yeah, it's also dependent on the amount of droison
LM or Lleech is fine to have one of but if you have both or it's solo lleech or something then you just have Strictly Worse Drunk
whereas e.g. imp/fang gu are perfectly good (great, even) interactions
SW too
It's definitely not a bad interaction, but it does nerf PM by a good chunk
Yeah but PM is an outsider
It is, but it's an outsider that in and of itself is worse than Drunk, and the guess is the main balancing factor ("knowing there's a drunk" is a secondary one, but this is an intended function of the Drunk on its homescript -- if there's only one faceup outsider claim in a base 2 then everyone knows there's a Drunk in the sense the PM knows there's a puzzledrunk)
Yeah but that’s not how it works in practice though right? I’ve seen so many times where the evil team gets a face up outsider bluff so you don’t know if it’s just them as the outsiders or if one is lying and there’s a drunk. If evil is claiming PM they are claiming outsider mod (assuming that all outsiders out) so it changes the solves by a lot
"1 outsider" tb is reasonably common
PM is intended to fill a different script function precisely because it's a 'face-up drunk'
But 'face-up drunk' is actually pretty brutal because its nature puts a functional outsider in a townsfolk slot
You don't want to make PM trivial to solve, but it balances as too detrimental if the response to any concerns about it is to shrug and go "it's an outsider"
yeah i think someone said this before but PM itself is a relatively weak townsfolk that adds an invisible drunk as a setup ability
I think vati said that
that’s probably true
I see you sneaking in that Huntsman, and I somewhat agree, very high but too rare an upside compared to the Damsel downside. Hard disagree on sneaking in Sailor tho, that's like putting Pacifist on there. Both are very strong TF in certain situations, with a decent enough floor.
beggar outsider is insane tbh
evil beggar sure, good beggar is basically diet oracle
ok the Cult Leader slander shall not stand
Wdym? Ogre is awesome 🤩
Cult Leaader (Townsfolk): You turn evil and then die at some point in the game.
Awesome 🤩
hi waffles
ok have you played with anyone who goes for CL wins
and then, because they go for CL wins, their neighbors die, they turn evil, then get executed or die at night
Out evil when evil. This increases social trust when you say you are good.
and then town executes the minion neighboring the cl and good loses because that was f3
