#secret thing

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iron scarab
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forgetting that the Drunk is an outsider >.< I gave three outsiders in a row to the Balloonist once because of this

feral snow
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I don’t take the blame for it but I get blamed for it

iron scarab
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please say more

feral snow
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Oh boy

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I’ve mentioned it before I think

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So I was running a legion game. Lights were off for ambience

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I gave the chef a 3

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But instead of holding up my index, middle, and ring fingers as I normally do

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I held up my index, middle, and thumb

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In the dark, the chef missed the thumb and felt confident it couldn’t be a legion game

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I didn’t realize they weren’t just doing a weird bluff until day 2 and the game was over that day anyways

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Good team was unbelievably stacked but it was kinda over anyways

iron scarab
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dang

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rip

feral snow
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Yeah

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The amnesiac (dead in this shot) had the ability “Each night, learn the next clockwise Legion player”

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The blank token is the “?” Token so you can see how far that went lol

dense moat
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Forgetting Chambermaid cant choose dead players 😭

iron scarab
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oh that one is a doozy

minor pier
feral snow
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I was learning ASL and that’s how you do 3

iron scarab
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fwiw 234 feels more comfortable than 123

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also that

feral snow
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The way I do it is closer to ASL 6

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And some of my new players know ASL so I’m making an effort to not be confusing

iron scarab
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thats a good shout i think ill start doing that too

tardy wyvern
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I mean I don't think that counts as a storyteller mistake

feral snow
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I got blamed for it lol

tardy wyvern
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I think the worst mistake I ever made was accidentally letter the Fortune Teller get a yes on the demon after they died

minor pier
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Every google pic of asl numbers I can find uses the thumb for 3 ?

feral snow
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Yes, that’s why I did it

tardy wyvern
feral snow
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Look up ASL 6

iron scarab
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i see a mix of both

feral snow
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Then I changed it up

minor pier
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Obviously you're meant to use both hands to show a 6, using your mind to levitate the grim in the meantime.

fast anchor
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The worst mistake I ever made was letting a poisoned Slayer shoot the Demon dead

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but most common?

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probably letting the Chambermaid choose dead players

foggy grotto
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forgetting to put the magician in minion and demon info irl

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or on the app, blindly clicking “these are your minions” and “this is the demon” for the minions, which gives away who the magician is

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i did this yesterday

sour harness
karmic rose
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I forget to give demon bluffs and/or wake the butler N1 more than I should

barren zenith
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I love magician and I have never made any mistakes regarding it

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Chambermaid too

tardy wyvern
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Most common mistake is pretty hard because usually when I make a mistake I feel bad enough about it such that I make sure not to do it again

lean isle
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Literally same.

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I don't think I've made any mistake twice. (though I haven't STd a lot of games)

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They're mostly small enough to not affect game too hard, like not telling new Fang Gu who the Marionette is.

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My worst mistake was giving an in-play character as Demon bluff.

tardy wyvern
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I did that once but I realized on day 2 and they weren't claiming it

lean isle
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I realized it on day 1 and the Demon did claim it.

coarse fern
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Chambermaid picking dead players…. I always forget

lean isle
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It is the most common mistake, I see it happen quite a lot.

lean isle
lean isle
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Demon exed D2, D3 was MM day.

dry sluice
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Most common in-game mistake: forgetting to show bluffs until 30 seconds into day 1

Most common meta mistake: letting everyone wander off into 3 separate postgame chats before asking who's in for the next game

austere steppe
next marlin
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I have an incredible knack for forgetting widow pings

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Also sometimes I hyperfocus on tracking nightkill alignment and forget oracle also sees executees

vale oxide
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I make too many mistakes, but I don't remember ever repeating one tbh

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Hope I'll run out of mistakes to make eventually 🙏

fast anchor
vale oxide
vale oxide
supple dirge
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My most common mistake is waking someone out of order and giving them info when they should be dead. I've done that several times

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I usually wake them up again and tell them to ignore that info

ivory ridge
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forgetting bluffs

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i did it an unreasonable amount of times 😭

empty carbon
feral snow
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[21/Mar/2025] close enough

What’s your favourite message on this server in the last week or so?

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#1104980997470171177 message

next marlin
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favourite past-week bit is probably malvora's (cool) midsyville arc

tardy wyvern
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Not on the server technically, but this cracked me up while I was running TB and the demon tried to kill the mayor

supple dirge
foggy grotto
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what

zenith lotus
karmic rose
honest tide
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imagine not just being in a fog whenever you are playing botc online

lost thistle
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apprentice-boffin-alchemist-spy

minor pier
modern plume
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On my way to add Apprentice into a Dullahan under the Willows game to have three Vizier announcements.

supple dirge
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3/24 You've been hired my TPI to write a film adaptation of blood on the clocktower. What kind of movie is going to be, and what is the plot going to be?

sour harness
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Brewing Trouble: murder mystery in Ravenswood Bluff

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Idk lol

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Maybe the investigator is the main character, that feels thematic. You follow them as they investigate the crime scenes and try to figure out who did it

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Then at the end it's revealed via flashback that they're actually the drunk

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Each of the characters have personalities and then at the point that the audience figures out who's evil it cuts to them in private in their full evil persona

shrewd cloud
fast anchor
sharp violet
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apparently the author wrote herself into a corner with trying to find a reason/method for good to win (seriously, how does evil ever lose this position in an actual game)

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I literally suggested if evil won't kill anyone at night or execute anyone in the day, just bring in a fiddler

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but how do you make that narratively compelling

ivory ridge
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👀

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just mark it with a spoiler or something

austere steppe
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I kinda dislike how many demons are getting wild outsider mods

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I get why they exist, because mechanically, but man playing in sentinel games is lame

sharp violet
ivory ridge
sharp violet
ivory ridge
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broski this can't be real

modern plume
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The game that happened in #the-day-the-music-died would fit well for a BotC movie with the intensity of everything in the final two days. Already has a big twist built into it.

sharp violet
ivory ridge
sharp violet
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it's a lore thing

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||they were cere by the time the game started||

ivory ridge
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honestly writing yourself into a corner like this is so funny

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like how did you even end up here

tidal quiver
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ngl the real mistake is ||having your MC be the mutant and not FG jumped to||

modern plume
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I just remembered that Axolator already laid out the plots, lol.

next marlin
# sharp violet it's a lore thing

When I write my snv novelization I will apparently need to clarify ||what the cere was before being transformed|| because there's a right answer to this

ivory ridge
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if you ever write a novelization

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guh

tidal quiver
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wait what in the lore the ||cere became transformed? I mean ig it was a normal human brain until it got the mechanical half but is that like a real thing or just this one fanfic||

sharp violet
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read it to find out more

next marlin
tidal quiver
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I think all Vati snv lore is canon

next marlin
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||imo he and the pithag turned himself into a cyborg to amplify pre-existing psychic powers and the mutant was an early prototype experiment that didn't work out well, and also the cere is or was the/a savant||

tidal quiver
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but also the correct answer is definetly ||savant, think of the character development: you make everyone mad that they are what you used to be because you want them to know the pain you once felt||

ivory ridge
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ok important question

tidal quiver
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ok I've got a book of character progression right here: ||MC savant gets hurt or traumatised or something so they turn evil to become cere. Then, game starts, and is evil. The MC now gets deeper into the evil team/corruption or whatever and is barberswapped into being the demon because they are trusted. Then, there's some final grand redemption opportunity that was hinted at earlier and becomes snakecharmed and then tries to fight for good||

ivory ridge
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best player count for an snv novella

tidal quiver
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just based on my experience reading books, I feel like 12 players would be overwhelming early

next marlin
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11

tidal quiver
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gonna say 8 or 9

next marlin
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8 works too

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But I think 2 minion game

tidal quiver
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2 minion game has a lot of potential yea

next marlin
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If you tell it from the evil team perspective you don't need to introduce all the townsfolk early

tidal quiver
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wait here me out: BMR novella where the mc is the ||goon [filler text]||

ivory ridge
next marlin
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Livevoice syndrome

zenith lotus
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although it isnt a movie, its a tv show

tidal quiver
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ok hear me out: every few chapters the perspective changes and it's almost like a slow, gradual grim reveal for the reader, but concealed/vague specifically so that the reader doesn't know the demon at the end of the game

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every month or so I'm like "yeaa I should write a book" and then I start thinking rationally and stop

next marlin
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Stop doing that and go write it

ivory ridge
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hmmm, i think telling the story from good (or starting good)'s perspective make sense right?

tidal quiver
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but... but... I have like no time to write a whole book

next marlin
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Find it

ivory ridge
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evil kinda stripped (hehe) all of the mystery

ivory ridge
next marlin
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Lore moment

tidal quiver
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if it's from evil's POV, then it's less of a mystery and more about the tension of "will the MC be executed" ig

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I feel like an average Dire game from Dire's POV would on average be a good book

coarse fern
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Crazy statement

tidal quiver
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I'm not trying to speak to Dire's internal monologue or whatever

ivory ridge
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does dire have an internal monologue?

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/j

pure meadow
tidal quiver
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I just mean that it's either "Dire is good and has game-winning info but can't convince anybody and ends up framed as a minion" or "Dire is evil and ends up super sus as evil but is really confidently and aggressively accusing and just needs to convince like 2 more people"

alpine silo
next marlin
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It's important to stop your soul from getting eaten

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Hard to explain it to others and hard to enforce it upon yourself

alpine silo
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ive written clocktower fiction before and thats usually how i structure it at least

next marlin
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But you do

ivory ridge
next marlin
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Trouble verbing? Blood on the Clocktower reference

ivory ridge
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hmmm

next marlin
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Anyway aren't you meant to be one of my cultists or something, just listen to the vibes

tacit fiber
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you are describing socials

tidal quiver
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socials are the best info

foggy grotto
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BotC screwball comedy would go hard tho

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i jokingly wrote this with some people for a Theater Class I had last year

fast anchor
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25/3: Name a group (either fictional characters or real people) - if they hypothetically played a game of BotC, how would it go? Why would it go poorly/well? Would they play another game after that one?

feral snow
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A long time ago I did an impression of Donald trump playing this game

cold veldt
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who is the storyteller in this hypothetical scenario

feral snow
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I wonder if I can find it

fast anchor
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Choose whatever makes most sense

feral snow
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“Now you see if I was the Imp then I would be the best imp, I really would-I have a friend who was an imp, really nice guy, and he told me “you know Donnie you’d be a really good Monk” and I said “thank you very much” because i am the greatest blood on the Clocktower player in the entire world, unlike sleepy Imp Joe who can’t even finish his sentence, just the other day he said “Made in America” was two words-can you believe it? Made, in America it’s like so clearly not two words but sleepy joe would never get that because he’s not patriotic enough for this country”

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There it is

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You can tell how old it is because I reference Joe Biden instead of Kamala Harris

dense moat
fast anchor
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See this is why I asked this question, holy shit thatd go hard

dense moat
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Nara seems like she’d be a good ST if no one wanted to do it at the moment

dense moat
shrewd cloud
dry sluice
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Twilight tries adding Mathematician to TB for everypony's second game and gets frustrated when they don't understand her triple Spy misreg setup.

Despite their elements, Applejack and Rainbow Dash get super into the game and pull off a crazy Imp + Poisoner win.

Pinkie Pie hardclaims 8 different roles every day, and inexplicably has a 100% success rate of both baiting the demon as Ravenkeeper and perfectly protecting as Monk. Her favorite script is S&V, but the ST just has to trust that she's complying with madness (she always does).

Fluttershy hates lying and being accused by her friends. She thinks she can't play the game, but ends up having fun being the group's Storyteller.

Rarity has been on the good team every single game, has never lied even once about her info, but everyone campaigns to execute her anyway because she's "reading Spy."

supple dirge
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Spike is the butler

acoustic chasm
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The Owl house cast try and play, but then get wound up by the fact that the demons in the game are not accurate to the ones in the Demon realm.

Eda then realises that the game seemed familiar because there is basically the same game in there "Court of the Wild Magi".

Luz and Amity are often on the same team, but when they don't they often catch each other out but play along anyway. Amity is at an intense disadvantage when evil whenever her siblings play too. Eda is always suspected as evil but enjoys it.

Hunter takes the game super seriously but he doesn't like the game that much, even though he is very good at it. Willow and Hunter co-ST pretty often because of this.

Gus has a lot of fun changing his claims and playing chaoticly. He is probably has the most fun playing the game out of most the cast. Camila would take a small bit getting the game but when it's played would also often Storytell. She doesn't like being evil.

fast anchor
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the "listen if you don't tell me the truth I WILL DIE!!!" gambit

fast anchor
ivory ridge
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true!

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what i normally do as a gambler is

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"hey you! i've chosen you to the subject of my gamble! smile now if you don't tell me the truth, i will die and tunnel on you for the rest of the game"

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normally works

feral snow
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Mizu in the Boomdandy game

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No one told the truth. They died

ivory ridge
young sonnet
young sonnet
fast anchor
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Holy shit

tidal quiver
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Sam is literally the frame to Gollum the demon

tacit fiber
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The Danganronpa v3 cast plays SnV with one traveler, monokuma storytells.

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Kokichi would become a scourge on the app

cloud plover
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Holy crap who made a fanfic question

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Ah, Axo

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I am unsurprised

lost thistle
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(time isn’t real)
You are a Minion. there’s a damsel in play.

its d1
somebody has immediately opened up with publicly hard claiming damsel, saying “guess me you won’t, evil team”.

do you guess them? why or why not

foggy grotto
sour harness
feral snow
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No, only because my group does this stuff all the time

foggy grotto
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i also enjoy being evil too much

sour harness
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Like if I did that I could easily brush it off as a joke and avoid that suspicion

tacit fiber
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yeah both times where I've played FoR as a minion I've guessed the spartacus in the first two days and like

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yay I win

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but :(

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I wanted to be evil

tardy wyvern
vale oxide
honest tide
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Nah. I wouldn’t do that. Maybe if I were the vizier or something

fast anchor
young sonnet
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^^^^^

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I would guess them if I wasn't a Minion

ivory ridge
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but like

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sometimes you need to punish people who play damsel like that

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so if it's not too hard (depending on script), i'll damsel guess

feral snow
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Time is real I spent some with your mom last night [27/mar/2025]

how did you get your username?

tacit fiber
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sounded cool

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(this is why like this server has 2 other requiems, I am not unique)

sour harness
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Idk I had this username before I gained consciousness, ask middle school me

next marlin
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vaticide is the killing of a prophet or a poet -- which are the same thing -- from vates, which is one of the things I am, which can itself or from some of its roots be translated as "prophet", "poet/bard" (in the sense of "divinely inspired/touched poet"), or "madman"; the "prophet" part is self-explanatory from this
I shorten it a lot of ways depending on what I think I or other people will understand; currently I shorten it to Vati because this is the variant closest to the name of a dead friend

sour harness
fast anchor
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wait that's why your substack is "Vates Rising"

next marlin
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yes

fast anchor
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ooo

cold veldt
sour harness
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It has been misspelled so much and it's really funny

versed junco
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Highstrecks

sour harness
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hiistrex
hiisterex
hitex
hisex
hiiiiiiiiistrex
hitsex
hi3strex
sex

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All things I have been called

feral snow
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Sex goes hard

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I’ve been called squill and squirrel wayyy too many times

sour harness
versed junco
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Tis a controversial opinion, that

fast anchor
sour harness
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Idk I didn't think this but through

tacit fiber
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but

versed junco
fast anchor
# tacit fiber but

oh yeah requiem are you regaining your third pronoun now that you have space for it

sour harness
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The pronouns are multiplying

versed junco
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This is the future the woke mind virus wants

tacit fiber
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😭

dense moat
acoustic chasm
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sunbird is a fire spell card from wizard 101, which was a game I played a lot.

Autumn is a name I'm trying out andgoing by, and I enjoy it >:)

barren zenith
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And my name is Dylan

pure meadow
honest tide
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I’m pretty sure I slammed my hand on my keyboard when I was 11 and added some Es

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Then I shortened it because nobody could say it

modern plume
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I've always loved the Cyndaquil line from Pokemon with it being my favorite pokemon line, Pokemon Silver was my favorite game as a child and regularly played and during my deepest depression Pokemon was a comfort and especially Pokemon Heartgold. So naturally, I liked names involving Quilava or Typhlosion.

I added 'Adorable' in front since it felt too lonely a name without some modifier and I preferred a positive modifier, and so 'Adorable Quilava' became my regular name for games.

feral snow
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I WAS GONNA TALK ABOUT THAT GAME

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3 pip fire spell that’s like 275-325 damage or something

acoustic chasm
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yup

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I think a bit more

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actually i sounds about right

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the lower end does at least

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275

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Upper end i feel its more in the 350 range but lemme check

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The 75% chance when it does cast it is beautiful

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Ah yes

feral snow
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Ahhh right

acoustic chasm
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goated spell

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It's no storm shark of course

feral snow
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Was thinking of storm shark which is 375-435

acoustic chasm
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ye

feral snow
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Storm wizard here lol

acoustic chasm
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Mainly a fire wizard

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That's my main

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But I love a good death wizard

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I tried fire/death. I didn't know what I was doing haha

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legally death wizards have to be goths. that's non-negotionable

ivory ridge
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oh right my name

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so i don't actually have a concrete online name

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i get called different things in different server 😔

acoustic chasm
cold veldt
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without a single online name I’d crumble…

sour harness
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Ok nya-hamber

tardy wyvern
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mine was the one that stuck somehow

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mainly bc “Mr. Dell” actually kinda roles off the tongue

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I do not remember what the other two were

cold veldt
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dell is a banger ngl you lucked out

feral snow
cold veldt
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damn ur old

feral snow
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Kid me got to level 29 without membership and I feel almost embarrassed at how much effort that took when xp level requirements are exponential and the free to play area ends at level 10

feral snow
feral snow
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I think fire is best going into myth

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This is all pvp. for pve everyone just gets feint from death

acoustic chasm
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yee

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I loved the look of feint

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So I got it

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then i carried on

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hey look the spells look awesome

feral snow
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I mean dual school is kind of viable now?

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So maybe it was worth it in the long run

acoustic chasm
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if I can get back i nto my account 😭

sour harness
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there is NO way this game is real

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This was a memory injected into my brain a decade ago

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Nobody plays it

fast anchor
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People play wizard101 still

acoustic chasm
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oh i still go on it from time to time

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Its v nostalgic

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They really succeeded there

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A couple years ago it got a graphics update

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Which was nice

feral snow
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I actively still do hystrex

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Literally logged on last night for couch potato farming

cold veldt
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you should try secret agent wizard boy and the international crime syndicate

acoustic chasm
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it exists

feral snow
cold veldt
feral snow
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Looks sick actually

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Not exactly the same (mostly since the one I play is more turn based combat)

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Oh wait autumn you’re British

acoustic chasm
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ye

feral snow
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Did you play on EU servers? Because they closed those

acoustic chasm
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I did play on America Servers tha-

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oh

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oh

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ok

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Well I also had an account on EU servers which is my recent account

feral snow
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Yeah okay that one is gone

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America one should still be there though

acoustic chasm
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the america one is my main one... i just can't access it

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welll maybe i can

foggy grotto
feral snow
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Yeah that sounds about right lol

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Boi was funny at the time

foggy grotto
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it was

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and it definitely did not hold up

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but it’s too late to change anything

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besides most people just call me “Kenobi” anyway so it’s chill

feral snow
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I’ll help you finish celestia fuck I hate that world

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Lowkey I kinda hated all of arc 2 i don’t get it

alpine silo
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i think the 3 came about when I first made a reddit account and it seemed Cool

fast anchor
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wait we have 3 seven reacts that's perfect

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keep it like that

ivory ridge
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no name, no face, no pronoun

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and almost no location if squall didn't doxx the fuck out of me

next marlin
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Mizu is just a Moth cultist don't worry about it

ivory ridge
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true!

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i am change itself

alpine silo
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based

next marlin
tidal quiver
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How in the world do 2 other people also have names from Wizard 101, I got Magicaking after playing that game and thinking I was the coolest person ever (I am actually the least cool person ever) and now I have slowly been trying to rebrand to just Magica to avoid the cringe

feral snow
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Lmaooo hell yeah join the club

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I feel so validated lol

barren zenith
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I decide that, trust

feral snow
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We need to get a botc wiz group going lol

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We can play it in the game lol

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And the get banned for saying “kill yourself” as the imp

ivory ridge
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i still remember that game where 4 good player tell the lycan “kill yourself” in f4

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in person 😭

fast anchor
ivory ridge
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OMG wizard101

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i have not played it a single time

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but i saw this a few weeks ago

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worth the 4 hours

feral snow
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Oh damn it’s like actually pretty up to date

feral snow
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But hell yeah let’s do it

ivory ridge
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isn't wizard101 like

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for m*llen*al though

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idk it seems kinda runescape-esque

feral snow
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I mean it came out in 2009(?) and is still going pretty strong

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Who a game is “for” is subjective anyways

feral snow
ivory ridge
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vibes

feral snow
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Helpful lol

fast anchor
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well, at least I know it did at some point

feral snow
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Oh even better

cold veldt
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yes it did take me 2 days to think of a good answer to that

fast anchor
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you're cooking

tacit fiber
fast anchor
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of course i'm iconic

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i'm a woman

ivory ridge
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wait sorry what's the question again?

sour harness
fast anchor
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I'm voting for it

feral snow
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Me too

tacit fiber
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me three

sharp violet
cold veldt
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video games video

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cool name

lost thistle
rose vault
ivory ridge
next marlin
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No you're my evil twin

ivory ridge
feral snow
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I don’t imagine it’s a super popular name

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Also porter robinson mentioned!

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My friend is a huge fan so I feel like I’ve heard a decent bit of music just by being near him

fast anchor
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oh yeah squall you have to answer your own question

vale oxide
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My name is mihael and my nickname is miha. Crazy story I know

feral snow
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Okay I used to have a different username and I thought it was cringe so I decided to change it.

I liked storm (shoutout wizard101 for giving me a love for literally everything in my life: science, purple, periodic table, storm, magic, etc), so I decided my name should be Storm or a synonym of it (ideally starting with S). I googled synonyms and squall (had to become Squ4ll because squall is taken believe it or not) was born

cold veldt
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why the letter 4?

feral snow
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Easiest substitute I could make for a letter without losing the meaning

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I use squ4llss on some platforms when Squ4ll is taken by that German guy

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-# I think he’s German iirc

cold veldt
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I see…

vital grove
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Ok but wheres the wow group

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I am frothing at the mouth

fast anchor
vital grove
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Ok like I love wizard101 but wow is simply just a better mmo

feral snow
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Oh yeah no denying that

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But like bias and nostalgia

vital grove
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So true

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I replay w101 every year or so

hollow oasis
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I literally have 0 backstory for my name

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It’s literally “Nerdguy” was taken

cold veldt
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are you not a nerd, guy?

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708

hollow oasis
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And Nerdguy is just me announcing “I’m a nerd”

cold veldt
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cool pfp btw i only just realised what's going on in it

hollow oasis
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The bird is evil

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Anyway I made it in Google slides

cold veldt
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:o

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I googled slides, only those playground things showed up

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can u be more specific

hollow oasis
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…. No Google slides

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The website

cold veldt
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let's be real its just google powerpoint

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no matter what they call it

hollow oasis
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PowerPoint is better but like

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I’m used to Google

cold veldt
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google is free its goated

hollow oasis
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Exactly

cold veldt
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tbh my image editing go-to is photoshop

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i'm sure google does slideshows better though

hollow oasis
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I don’t

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Have photoshop

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I use apple photos

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And Google slides

cold veldt
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i love apple photos but they make me hungry

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i just prefer real apples

rose vault
tidal quiver
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this is a really specific question but in photoshop is there an easy way to remove little shaded borders of stuff (I wanted to remove the small gradient/border around botc character icons)

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I'm sure this is the best place to ask

feral snow
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@primal crescent welcome to hell

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You might have the answer to this actually

ivory ridge
feral snow
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I remember looking him up and being impressed that someone actually took the name

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I’m assuming it’s a guy this is not a good thing I have no idea what gender they are

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Slowly but surely I’m clawing that fame away

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My blog post comes up when you google it

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Oh yeah part two coming soon, just need to finish my thoughts on sentinel

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Any sentinel takes welcome

hollow oasis
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Squ4ll

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I'm doing the horrible thing

feral snow
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Uh oh

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Did you get chipotle again

hollow oasis
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I'm running my 13 outsider script

feral snow
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Oh dear god

hollow oasis
feral snow
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Yk I made a script like this once

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I can’t remember who inspired it

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Maybe sh99er?

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Oh lord poisoner heretic (dies from cringe)

hollow oasis
feral snow
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From what lmao

hollow oasis
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Sweetheart

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PD poisoner

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Someone being really goodsided with PM

feral snow
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Oh god right outsiders are townsfolk

hollow oasis
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Is drunk a TF here

primal crescent
hollow oasis
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If I like

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just never give non-sober info

feral snow
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You have like 1 info townsfolk

primal crescent
feral snow
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Ah tough

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Summon someone who does

foggy grotto
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Drunk BH who learns evils

primal crescent
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the only thing i could recommend is doing either an opacity select

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and then deleting everything not in that

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or just use a magic wand and go from there

hollow oasis
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GUYS IM RUNNING THE 13 OUTSIDER SCRIPT

feral snow
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tell us how it goes

hollow oasis
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well

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minor wizard shenanigans

rose vault
rose vault
# hollow oasis minor wizard shenanigans

"I wish my ability becomes the following: once per game, during public statements or nominations, publicly choose a player and cast fireball: they and their alive neighbors die."

fast anchor
tidal quiver
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8d6 solves all your problems

feral snow
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granted, it turns off at final 5, and I'll ask them to make a dex saving throw (your spell save DC is determined by 8 + a modifier based on how smart I think you are)

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no proficiency unless you can actually do magic

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on a successful save, they live

tidal quiver
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no proficiency unless you have played wizard 101

feral snow
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🔥

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hell yeah

tidal quiver
# feral snow hell yeah

would you accept if players claimed to have evasion and could take half/no damage from it?

fast anchor
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oh the reflex save is genius

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throw a large, heavy object at them and see if they can dodge it

feral snow
shadow shale
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helo

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CATCH

feral snow
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seriously a good idea though

shadow shale
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

feral snow
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take a ball and throw it at players and if they get hit they die

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this includes the Demon

shadow shale
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oh id totally do this

shadow shale
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that sounds fun as hell

fast anchor
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the demon after not realizing what the cost is

shadow shale
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why does she fall over like this

fast anchor
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that's what i'm saying 😭

austere steppe
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My name is whatever seat I am sitting in.

rose vault
feral snow
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Better hope they roll low

fast anchor
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question: if I hold the target down with force do they get disadvantage

feral snow
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Actually some people in my group are running a botc dnd thing (not the Steven Medway thing) so they might love it

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Stealing that idea

fast anchor
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if I roast them hard enough with my silver tongue do they get -1d6

feral snow
feral snow
fast anchor
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it's a public action no?

ivory ridge
feral snow
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Delayed blast fireball

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It’s a wish you can cast any spell of 8th level or lower

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DBF is 7th level it’s fair game

ivory ridge
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is this w101?

fast anchor
#

d&d

feral snow
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Dungeons and dragons

ivory ridge
#

oh

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i never understand the appeal of d&d

fast anchor
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I like the edit from WoW to W101

ivory ridge
#

same thing

feral snow
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You like fun and whimsy

ivory ridge
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yeah but idk how to say it

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i don't like the uhhh

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setting of d&d?

feral snow
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Oh that’s valid

fast anchor
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high fantasy?

feral snow
#

There are other settings and other systems

fast anchor
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just play any other ttrpg tbh

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if you like westerns i have a recommendation

ivory ridge
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no it's just the particular

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hmmmm

fast anchor
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the forgotten realms as a place? most GMs don't use it ime

next marlin
ivory ridge
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yes

next marlin
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Anyway next time livetext doesn't rack I'm running Fiasco

ivory ridge
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like i wanna say "it feels white" but i knows that not true because i like the card design of mtg

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it's hard to put it in words

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i like stuff like darkest dungeon, but tokien doesn't have the same interest in me

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but not that i don't like elf, because i like frieren

fast anchor
ivory ridge
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what's fiasco

fast anchor
#

deus ex

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?

next marlin
#

also meant to be 3-5p so it's optimized for livetext 'numbers'

ivory ridge
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someday

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maybe

fast anchor
#

wait mizu

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do you like raccoons

ivory ridge
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yes

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i love them

fast anchor
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you would love crash pandas

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it's a ttrpg

ivory ridge
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the animal you mean right?

fast anchor
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where you're raccoons

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in a street race

next marlin
fast anchor
#

you're like 4 raccoons all in the same car

ivory ridge
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raccoons are so cute

fast anchor
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it's amazing i love it all the rules fit on 1 page

ivory ridge
#

what class even interest me in dnd

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oh bard is cool

next marlin
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So the World of Darkness is this line of TTRPGs that are like, evil goth urban-fantasy-horror stuff based around magick and supernatural creatures being real and based but also incredibly cursed. It's good. Steven Medway's favourite game is Vampire: the Masquerade which is the most famous one of them so it's officially TPI-endorsed

ivory ridge
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magick with a k

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you're such a nerd 😭

next marlin
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The best wod gamelines are Vampire, Mage, and Changeling and Vampire is the one that is understandable by like normal human beings so I prefer the other two but my Mage lore is incoherent and anticanonical so we're doing Changeling

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(also Mage is, uh, designed to be a setting more than it's designed to be a playable game)

fast anchor
ivory ridge
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of course you do

fast anchor
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you know you don't have to humor me and go through it if you don't want to

next marlin
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In Changeling you're one of the fae but in a human body and it's complicated and you have awesome cool powers that you get by believing you have awesome cool powers but also the oppressive normie universe is trying to eat your soul so you have to prevent it from doing so. It's all very based and a literally true statement of actual reality

next marlin
dense moat
fast anchor
ivory ridge
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magically

next marlin
dense moat
next marlin
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In the mid-2000s they cancelled all the original WoD games because the books weren't selling enough because they'd built up a bunch of completely insane incoherent and unplayable lore, so they made "new WoD" to be not that

dense moat
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I’ve heard tales of the old WoD but I don’t know much else

next marlin
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But it was never that popular so eventually they rereleased "old WoD" as "classic WoD" and renamed nwod to "Chronicles of Darkness"

fast anchor
#

magic comes in many forms, which appeals to you?

  • We're on a Mission from God
  • This is fantasy right? So like, Fantasy Magic?
  • Uh nature? They aren't called Magic Mushrooms for nothing
  • Magical Fairyland!
  • THUNDERBOLT AND LIGHTNING VERY VERY FRIGHTENING ME
  • DEATHHHHHH
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god i was 16 when i found this

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and you can tell

next marlin
#

And rereleased the cwod/owod games with less incoherent lore so they're actually accessible and people can play them

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(and then released fucking v5 which makes all the Cappadocian vampires friends what the hell)

fast anchor
#

And where did you get this Fantasy Magic

  • Sick rhymes
  • Top of the class in magic school
  • Maybe she's born with it. Maybe she's a...
  • Sufficiently advanced steampunk is indistinguishable from magic
  • Can I have a magical sugar daddy? That sounds rad
ivory ridge
#

E

fast anchor
#

ofc

ivory ridge
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"of course"?

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i need to clarify sorry

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E, if he's hot

fast anchor
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WARLOCK
Most mortals are short-sighted, power-hungry, and ambitious. Most demigod-level beings are hungry for mortal souls, patient, and have power to spare. Hence, arrangements are made.

As a Warlock, you didn't do a whole lot for your magical power, but you certainly paid a lot.

  • Hooray! Poor life choices!
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(the flowchart keeps going to subclasses btw)

ivory ridge
#

i see i see

fast anchor
#

i wasn't done

next marlin
#

god "celestial warlocks" were a mistake

#

5e and its consequences

fast anchor
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So, who's bought up your soul?

  • the devil, obv
  • I... kinda got tricked by a fairy
  • In an ironic twist nobody saw coming, AN ANGEL!
  • Cthulhu F'taghen!
  • Look, I dunno, just let me minmax
fast anchor
#

we had a class for that it was called cleric or paladin or if you really wanted to be a charisma fullcaster there's a sorcerer for it

ivory ridge
#

hmmm who's the hottest here

fast anchor
#

they're all pretty hot

ivory ridge
#

are we talking like elf fairy or erlking here

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also is the devil lucifer or ars goetia

tidal quiver
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I would love to nerd out about d&d ut I am busy, anyways I like making spell names script names (Vicious Mockery goes hard as both a spell and script name and nobody can tell me otherwise)

fast anchor
ivory ridge
#

hmmm, oberon huh

fast anchor
next marlin
fast anchor
#

like think demogorgon

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or baphomet

feral snow
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I’m kind of my groups DM but if I ever do get to actually play I really want to be a fathomless warlock

fast anchor
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or... the phb says mephistopheles. like the guy from Cats?

ivory ridge
#

wait you have a dnd group?

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why does everyone in our club have a dnd group

#

😔

next marlin
#

mizu learning a new opportunity to stalk squall

ivory ridge
#

and why am I in none

feral snow
ivory ridge
#

nevermind

fast anchor
#

(the mutual friend is vati)

next marlin
tidal quiver
feral snow
#

Actually fuck that’s new Squ4ll lore

fast anchor
ivory ridge
#

wdym

ivory ridge
#

but can you elaborate on the last option

feral snow
#

I’m assuming that’s hexblade

fast anchor
ivory ridge
#

LMAO

feral snow
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Yeah okay basically your patron is a big sword and gives you sword powers and also magic

ivory ridge
#

ew

fast anchor
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that makes it sound cool wtf squall

ivory ridge
#

ok i'll take the fairy

feral snow
#

It’s a common minmax thing and also used in niche setups

ivory ridge
#

B

feral snow
next marlin
fast anchor
#

Warlock: The Archfey

Your patron is a lord or lady of the fey, a creature of legend who holds secrets that were forgotten before the mortal races were born. This being's motivations are often inscrutable, and sometimes whimsical, and might involve a striving for greater magical power or the settling of age-old grudges. Beings of this sort include the Prince of Frost; the Queen of Air and Darkness, ruler of the Gloaming Court; Titania of the Summer Court; her consort Oberon, the Green Lord; Hyrsam, the Prince of Fools; and ancient hags.
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that was fun!

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as an archfey warlock i think you do like illusory magic and the kinda stuff that makes people go mad

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when you think about it dominate person is kinda like the cerenovus

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oh you can teleport starting at 6th level that's cool

ivory ridge
#

oh so cerenovus

fast anchor
#

oh and you can send people to the endless dark

foggy grotto
#

what have i stumbled into

fast anchor
#

alternatively the shadow realm

next marlin
#

We're trying to explain tabletop rpgs to mizu

fast anchor
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or "an illusory realm" if you're the phb

zenith lotus
next marlin
#

Anyway I'm gonna force livetext to play a vtm campaign in lieu of it never wanting to play botc

ivory ridge
#

btw what is the endless dark/shadow realm

fast anchor
ivory ridge
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not the gulag

fast anchor
#

unless you were asking what i was referencing with either of those

#

anyway so when is the secret thing d&d5e campaign (because ofc it's gonna be 5e we just did this whole thing)

#

actually fuck that we should play crash pandas

ivory ridge
#

how long is a dnd5e session

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assuming standard version

next marlin
fast anchor
#

yeah no i realized

next marlin
#

e.g. pathfinder 1e

fast anchor
# ivory ridge how long is a dnd5e session

depends on a lot and the style of DMing, some DMs run sessions in an hour while others lean closer to 3-4 and still others make it a whole-evening thing dinner break included

acoustic chasm
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Can the secret thing wizard101 players join the secret thing d&d5e campaign

fast anchor
#

holy shit

#

i don't have to play 5e, score

ivory ridge
#

is dnd5e not good?

acoustic chasm
#

The system is fine

fast anchor
#

it's the most popular ttrpg but not because it's a good system

acoustic chasm
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The company behind it isn't

fast anchor
#

it's specifically designed for a very specific style of play and kinda flounders if you don't do exactly high-combat high-magic dungeon-crawling adventures with it

next marlin
# ivory ridge is dnd5e not good?

It's too normie and ends up as a sad mix between dnd's fundamentally gamist design philosophy and "what if we simplified everything so the gamist part isn't fun anymore but didn't replace it with anything actually playable"

fast anchor
#

<--- had to run a legal battle in 5e

acoustic chasm
#

Oh come on. D&D 5e is fine. It tries to do a lot of things, and is ok in most of them.

next marlin
#

If you want to play a gamist ttrpg play pathfinder or 3.5, if you want to play a non-gamist ttrpg play something that isn't a dnd

acoustic chasm
#

sure

fast anchor
#

it's also not very beginner-friendly? there's a ton of overhead and combat is really mechanical in nature

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like compare it to a more narrative-style ttrpg like monster of the week or something from savage worlds, which are way simpler and way looser with rules

acoustic chasm
#

ye

fast anchor
#

5e (and d&d in general) are way crunchier

next marlin
#

Anyway I'm going to introduce mizu to ttrpgs with some shit like GURPS Technomancer

acoustic chasm
#

It is crunchier

fast anchor
#

hey vati

next marlin
#

Crunch trial by fire

fast anchor
#

custom script discussion lancer campaign when

feral snow
#

My sessions run 4-5 hours but it's because it works well for our group

next marlin
#

I've never been that into mecha genre stuff if that's the game being discussed

acoustic chasm
#

But ye. I will admit D&D tries to be "a jack of all trades, master of none, and oftentimes much more mediocre than a master of one"

feral snow
#

no one else

next marlin
#

Now I'm just trying to feel out what's the simulationist limit people here will accept

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So I can subject them to GURPS Technomancer

acoustic chasm
#

Ok Squ4ll

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Time to make a wizard101 campaign

#

Wizards can only cast summon Elemental bc

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hmm...

#

wait

#

Life Wizards are straight up druids

feral snow
#

don't tell my players but I've been secretly preparing to just run the entirety of pirate101 as a campaign because it's also just turn-based grid combat

acoustic chasm
#

They aren't even wizards

acoustic chasm
#

Ice wizards are abjurers in D&D speak

ivory ridge
#

wait crash panda is so funny wtf

acoustic chasm
#

Most wizard101 combat is weird because they are more summoners than anything else

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they don't cast fireball (except if it's meteor strike a 4 pip spell in wizard101 but hilariously a 9th level spell in D&D 5e)

feral snow
#

that's meteor swarm

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but yeah they mostly tend to summon stuff

acoustic chasm
#

meteor strike is the wizard101 spell

feral snow
#

just direct beams of magic are reserved pretty much exclusively to wand hits

acoustic chasm
#

this opens up some hilarity

feral snow
# acoustic chasm

dont recite the deep magic to me witch, i was there when it was written

#

i also have this trained on my storm wizard lol

acoustic chasm
#

Yee

#

goated spell

#

But yes

#

If this is 4 pip spell (which is tiny in wizard101 terms)

#

And is a 9th level spell

#

Therefore, stormzilla is around a 15th level spell

#

I think imaging the wizards in wizard101 being like, god level wizards in terms of D&D 5e is hilarious to me for some reason

#

Adept Pyromancer - Is a 9th level caster

feral snow
#

Journeyman. You get meteor strike at level 16

acoustic chasm
#

Fair

dense moat
acoustic chasm
#

TBF

#

Journeyman does sound cooler than adept imo

dense moat
#

And also an partially engaged with Star Wars Edge or Empire or blades in the dark

feral snow
#

when do you get 9th level wizard spell slots?

#

its level 18 right?

#

damn

acoustic chasm
#

WIAT

next marlin
acoustic chasm
#

no

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I's level 22

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apparently

#

Fire Trap is level 16

dense moat
acoustic chasm
#

I am getting it off the wiki

feral snow
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i'm cooked

#

Tempest spam from level 28 has made me forget how to think

acoustic chasm
#

So I was right omg

#

Still

#

It's kinda scary close

feral snow
#

i'm so mad about the stupid tempest spell quest

dense moat
acoustic chasm
#

level 18 D&D, level 22 Wizard101

#

Imo, as cool as Stormzilla is, and it is cool

#

They cooked with Helephant

feral snow
#

true helephant goes hard

acoustic chasm
#

And yes, Helephant is not that good a spell

#

But that's exactly it

#

When I played

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I saw Stormzillas all the time

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Because it's really good

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But a Helephant is rare

#

So when you do see it

#

well

feral snow
#

to be fair helephant costs 1 pip more

acoustic chasm
#

ye

feral snow
#

Triton is a better comparison

acoustic chasm
#

It costs 1 pip more and does less damage

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I didn't realise that it cost 1 pip more for a while

#

I thought stormzilla was 6

dense moat
acoustic chasm
#

Then I looked at it and went 'oh huh'

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'It's 5'

#

'That's kinda crazy'

feral snow
#

storm is just better

acoustic chasm
#

damn

dense moat
acoustic chasm
#

Youc an do fusions spells?

#

And upgrade them?

#

Looks fun

feral snow
#

yeah thats kinda new

#

upgrades are a few years old

#

fusion was a few months ago

acoustic chasm
#

ye

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I remember the spellwriting but when it was coming out it was just for like tiny spells

#

So it didn't really matter much

feral snow
#

as of like two days ago we just spellements for up to arc 3

#

level 130

acoustic chasm
#

I just noticed it because helephants spellwriting is very funny to me. It looks like its a pretty common pattern

#

But i know that one line I understand...
The other I don't!

#

:P

#

they sure do like their icons :p

feral snow
#

clear 5 shields (on your opponent) to make a Damage over time effect of your own school. it lasts 4 rounds and does a total of 150 base damage per shield you clear (so maximum 750). then do 440 fire damage

feral snow
acoustic chasm
#

well...

#

I think i know which one is better :P

feral snow
#

the top one for pve

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bottom for pvp

acoustic chasm
#

true

feral snow
#

that's kind of how most of these go

acoustic chasm
#

I see I see

#

To be fair

#

I think that is really cool just from my pov

#

That makes so many more cards interesting

feral snow
#

oh yeah it's awesome

#

it makes your beginner spells actually viable

#

fire elf is huge in pvp now

acoustic chasm
#

I can imagine PVP being a lot more varied

#

(maybe not)

feral snow
#

oh it is

acoustic chasm
#

(maybe they've opyimised it)

feral snow
#

lots of off school hits

acoustic chasm
#

But like

#

That's epic

feral snow
#

ikr i love it

acoustic chasm
#

hah Evil Snowman. Good vibes

feral snow
#

some spells are super overtuned though rip

#

evil snowman is fun

acoustic chasm
#

That is prolly also just one of my fave spells off of vibes

feral snow
#

was huge last meta but not so much anymore

acoustic chasm
#

Like the sound, the animation

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I seee

feral snow
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oh yeah it's great

acoustic chasm
#

Time to make a wizard101 BOTC homebrew clearly

#

still fusions?

#

like wow

feral snow
#

fuck I should have done that

#

yeah there are some awesome spell fusions

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and some meta ones that are boring

#

ooh yeah and harmful auras

acoustic chasm
#

i am not much of a meta enjoyer

#

I enjoy jank

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but

#

and ye i'd rather lose a lo than do it

feral snow
#

i've wanted to do pvp for so long

#

the problem is that the only active queue is max level and i'm not there yet

fast anchor
feral snow
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Uh oh

#

Why

sharp violet
#

3/28: Today is my birthday! Create a birthday-themed custom character

dusky minnow
#

Birthday Tinker: You may die at any time if it's your birthday

#

Also Happy Birthday!

hollow oasis
#

You start by picking a number, Y

#

Every Yth day, you get Y inplay abilities.

rose vault
#

Why wouldn't I just say Y=1?

hollow oasis
#

Slightly more mid abilities

vale oxide
feral snow
#

Birthdayman (Outsider): Players that don’t clap for your and only your death might die at any time.

hollow oasis
sour harness
#

Unrelatedly, the (old) lycanthrope chose the entire evil team and thought he was drunk

austere steppe
ivory ridge
#

now watch as you can press everyone for information

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(and also die n2)

ivory ridge
ivory ridge
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[Yesterday at 3:29 PM]: What are the 3 most damaging Outsiders in your opinion and why?

hollow oasis
#

Damsel Poli Heretic

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Damsel(Losscon)

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Poli(Extra Evil)

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Heretic(Losscon)

shrewd cloud
#

Heretic, Poli, and Damsel as well for me

Barber can also be up there if it dies late game

ivory ridge
#

actually imma do a quick question change

#

same concept but i think this is more interactive

shrewd cloud
#

Honestly fair since i can’t imagine there’ll be any super spicy takes with the top 3 worst Outsiders

ivory ridge
pseudo fulcrum
#

Unreleased spoilers ||there's a reason that they're the ones on midnight||

shrewd cloud
#

Unless someone who actually believes Golem is top 3 wants to come out Oh_yes

(I do think it’s more of an Outsider than people give it credit for but it’s still definitely one of the more helpful ones)

ivory ridge
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[Yesterday at 3:29 AM] Rank all the Outsider in BOTC from most to least damaging.
Here is the tier list: https://tiermaker.com/create/blood-on-the-clocktower-characters-travellers-and-fabled-17513704
You are allow to modify the amount of tier(s) as well as their names, as long as there are at least 3 tiers
You also can present it as an alignment chart if you're extra into that

TierMaker

All Blood on the Clocktower: townsfolk, outsiders, minions, demons, travellers and fabled as of the release of the Wizard, (03/01/2025)

foggy grotto
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i could be very off with some of these

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couldn’t really get a good feel for saint recluse and snitch

honest tide
next marlin
# honest tide

I love how the losscon outsider tier excludes two of the three losscon outsiders

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Anyway damsel is secretly a townsfolk that gets one of the strongest evil pings in the game

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(in the same sense that klutz is secretly a townsfolk with a good ping)

hollow oasis
empty carbon
modern plume
# empty carbon why is mutant outed

Once they die, they tend to out themselves to clear up confusion from their earlier claims. If they die due to their own ability as well, it pretty much clears them as Evil outside of Evil plays like with Cerenovus

honest tide
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Saint is secretly also an evil ping because whoever is claiming saint is evil

foggy grotto
honest tide
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Nope! That said I don’t play a ton of snv

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Maybe I have but I don’t remember it

hollow oasis
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2/88 games I’ve played of SNV

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I’ve seen exactly 2 klutz losses

honest tide
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Most of the time they just pick their most trusted player and it works out. That or the one time they just yolo picked a twin and got it right lmao

foggy grotto
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klutz as twinsolver goes hard

tardy wyvern
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I’ve seen at least 3, and I definitely haven’t played 88 games of SNV

iron scarab
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ive played three games as klutz and picked an evil twice

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🙈

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in my defence one of them was the marionette smhsmhsmh

vale oxide
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A lot of them are script dependent of course

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Lunatic on BMR isn't C tier

feral snow
barren zenith
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PM is very script dependent

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With demon mobility, it is far more damaging than without

next marlin
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Demon mobility per se isn't the axis I think about

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It's a mix of how much other droison there is and if the demons are, for lack of a better description, misdirected

barren zenith
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Yeah, it's also dependent on the amount of droison

next marlin
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LM or Lleech is fine to have one of but if you have both or it's solo lleech or something then you just have Strictly Worse Drunk

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whereas e.g. imp/fang gu are perfectly good (great, even) interactions

barren zenith
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SW too

barren zenith
stable latch
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Yeah but PM is an outsider

next marlin
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It is, but it's an outsider that in and of itself is worse than Drunk, and the guess is the main balancing factor ("knowing there's a drunk" is a secondary one, but this is an intended function of the Drunk on its homescript -- if there's only one faceup outsider claim in a base 2 then everyone knows there's a Drunk in the sense the PM knows there's a puzzledrunk)

honest tide
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Yeah but that’s not how it works in practice though right? I’ve seen so many times where the evil team gets a face up outsider bluff so you don’t know if it’s just them as the outsiders or if one is lying and there’s a drunk. If evil is claiming PM they are claiming outsider mod (assuming that all outsiders out) so it changes the solves by a lot

next marlin
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"1 outsider" tb is reasonably common

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PM is intended to fill a different script function precisely because it's a 'face-up drunk'

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But 'face-up drunk' is actually pretty brutal because its nature puts a functional outsider in a townsfolk slot

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You don't want to make PM trivial to solve, but it balances as too detrimental if the response to any concerns about it is to shrug and go "it's an outsider"

foggy grotto
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yeah i think someone said this before but PM itself is a relatively weak townsfolk that adds an invisible drunk as a setup ability

sour harness
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I think vati said that

foggy grotto
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that’s probably true

minor pier
# vale oxide

I see you sneaking in that Huntsman, and I somewhat agree, very high but too rare an upside compared to the Damsel downside. Hard disagree on sneaking in Sailor tho, that's like putting Pacifist on there. Both are very strong TF in certain situations, with a decent enough floor.

sharp violet
fast anchor
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beggar outsider is insane tbh

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evil beggar sure, good beggar is basically diet oracle

hollow oasis
barren zenith
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Wdym? Ogre is awesome 🤩

fast anchor
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Cult Leaader (Townsfolk): You turn evil and then die at some point in the game.

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Awesome 🤩

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hi waffles

hollow oasis
fast anchor
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yes

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most people go for CL wins

hollow oasis
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Ok

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Here's how to play Cult Leader:

fast anchor
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and then, because they go for CL wins, their neighbors die, they turn evil, then get executed or die at night

hollow oasis
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Out evil when evil. This increases social trust when you say you are good.

fast anchor
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and then town executes the minion neighboring the cl and good loses because that was f3