No, sometimes you confirm the entire good team
#secret thing
next marlin
gusty bear
every single story i've heard about it seems to imply that it is
next marlin
Or the lunatic
sour harness
IT SHOULDN'T BE
but people run it like it is
LuF is hard to run but that is NOT the hard part imo
gusty bear
i've been fish twice, and the first time i told the demon i intended to hold it until d3 and died n3
sterile flame
I have never been a sober fish
fast anchor
i mean i was planning on doing it next week if you wanted to play a game if your script
fast anchor
but people run it like it is
it's either "learn if there's a goblin" or "go on a secret agent mission to confirm the entire good team"
next marlin
If the fish advice confuses the player with it enough, the confirmation isn't too strong
ez
gusty bear
i mean i was planning on doing it next week if you wanted to play a game if your...
are you planning on making any adjustments?
fast anchor
it's your script; no
next marlin
"so the first thing is, I'm removing yagga"
fast anchor
if you make adjustments i'll run the most recent version of the script but I won't alter it myself
that just feels kinda unethical
gusty bear
fair enough
i personally don't have a problem with it so long as people say clearly it's an adjusted version
next marlin
just hotfix a script to add slayer and invest and let the kazali get slayer shot d1 without picking a scarlet woman
gusty bear
it'll probably just be something like -klutz +recluse or +damsel
i'll can dm you the current state of the goon one as well so you can pick which of the two you'd rather run?
fast anchor
oooh sure
tall raft
Live text has made me worse at voting
I have half a mind to invent a better way to vote in livetext, it’s that bad
sour harness
I kinda hate conditional votes
zenith lotus
12/4: What's your favorite flavor text?
gusty bear
zealot
lost thistle
assassin
zenith lotus
~~assassin~~
yes
zenith lotus
my favorites are slayer, assassin, cere, zealot, and preacher
sour harness
preacher's is fun
hollow oasis
12/4: What's your favorite flavor text?
Lord of Typhon
gray ridge
Yagga, Mastermind, Klutz, Snitch
hollow oasis
wtf is that
The robot is glitching
foggy grotto
12/4: What's your favorite flavor text?
VORTOX
it’s straight BARS
Recluse is also fun
next marlin
12/4: What's your favorite flavor text?
Cerenovus is literally me, Heretic and Zealot are fun, all the snv demons have great flavour text but Vortox is the best, a bunch of the recent releases in general have very strong flavour texts
shrewd cloud
Also quite like Vortox’s
Kazali, Legion, Lunatic, and Slayer are also personal favorites for varying reasons
tacit fiber
12/4: What's your favorite flavor text?
hollow oasis
karmic slate
Gotta shout out the Imp because it’s the perfect intro do clocktower. Chef and Seamtress I really like for explaining why their info works. General, Legion, Assassin just have great thematic ones too
ivory ridge
Harlot flavor text kinda slay, 'm sorry 😭
next marlin
Best traveller flavour text is Judge
sour harness
Gotta shout out the Imp because it’s the perfect intro do clocktower. Chef and S...
I keep forgetting how good imp's is
next marlin
I nominate Hystrex
sour harness
I, the vizier, slam it
next marlin
ST he's claiming vizier, that's a madness break, he's meant to be mad as savant
sour harness
Oh no, I'm gonna be executed
next marlin
During a discussion about whalebucket draft once I realized a plausible minion setup with some people I play with would be cerenovus/vizier/mastermind and I was just in awe about how that game would play out
sour harness
Vizier slams their demon d1 and good has to vote VERY carefully
And simply not break madness
I ran cere mm and it ended about how you'd expect lol
next marlin
Hey does anyone want to gamble me as a good role of some description? I think this would be cool and good and reasonable and help town
gusty bear
Hey does anyone want to gamble me as a good role of some description? I think th...
Yeah I’ll gamble you as the alchemist-cerenovus
ivory ridge
Yeah I’ll gamble you as the alchemist-cerenovus
you have died. turn out vat is the mario-alchemist-cerenovus
next marlin
Yeah I’ll gamble you as the alchemist-cerenovus
Great, I'm looking forward to you being safely alive tomorrow and able to speak freely about your role (you're the barber btw)
gusty bear
Hey guys vati is the cerenovus now I was barberswapped with him last night and he claimed barber to me
Don’t think too hard about it
ivory ridge
wait
cerelocked a dead person as the barber is a devious idea
thanks for the suggestion
next marlin
Making dead players mad as on-death outsiders is very much an intended and fun interaction
Also making them mad as mutants which is basically poisonkilling them
gusty bear
ok no i have my story
i was the good cerenvous who was barberswapped with vati yesterday and i'm now the barber - i know this because vati claimed to be the barber to me yesterday when i was bluffing gambler and asked me to gamble him as that
next marlin
Hmmm I dunno, I'm still the savant. Do you want to run through every detail of this about 20 more times so I can pick it apart
gusty bear
no
next marlin
Understandable have a nice day (hystrex, do you think we can convince town to double tap)
ivory ridge
Making dead players mad as on-death outsiders is very much an intended *and fun*...
yeah but then people do stuff "I was ceremad as [real role], I'm now [ceremad outsider]" which is cringe 😔
next marlin
It kind of depends, if they're claiming pithag-killed or something and the outsider isn't mutant that still gets across a bunch of the effect so it's okay
If they're obviously pushing it you can probably just execute them
foggy grotto
12/5:
Keeping on theme with flavor text, if you could change the flavor text of one (or many idc) character in the game, which character would you change and what would the new flavor text be?
karmic slate
Savant probably, but unsure what to
sour harness
Making dead players mad as on-death outsiders is very much an intended *and fun*...
Also the other way around, making dead outsiders mad as Townsfolk is incredible
lost thistle
make the dead mutant still mad as the townsfolk they were claiming :3
sour harness
I've done that :)
tardy wyvern
I once played an SNV game as mutant where I was ceremad as mutant on day 1 and got executed, and then for some reason I was ceremad the next day as the barber
zenith lotus
were you bonecollected 😉
next marlin
No, no, you bone collect the mutant in f3
zenith lotus
why is a bone collector alive in f3
next marlin
Socials
I once [evil] barista-doubled a [good] bone collector when the only valid targets were the cere and the mutant
sour harness
Incredible
next marlin
He tragically turned it down
The cere was bluffing artist so there was good reason to bonecollect but the bc was very sus of the oracle 1 n2
(the vigor killed the honest-to-god actual klutz n2. the oracle got a 1. the savant false statement was "the Vigormortis killed a minion last night")
fast anchor
(the vigor killed the honest-to-god actual klutz n2. the oracle got a 1. the sav...
Banger statement
next marlin
I've given it in 3 games and evil won all 3
People hear that shit and they go "oh, that's the solve"
I gave it in a game where the mutant died n2 and there was no visible minion activity the entire game (witch and pithag both kept missing) and by about n5 town was up to "so, I think we have hidden twin snakecharmers, and the evil twin was vigorkilled"
fast anchor
I hate that I would totally do that as a good player
"there's no madness, no witch, no pit-hagging, it's a cerelock and hidden twins"
next marlin
It didn't help that the savant was loudly speculating about a cerelock so as soon as he left a convo doing that on like d3 I gave the false statement "someone is cerelocked"
supple dirge
12/6 Whats the best/your favorite way you've lost a game?
sharp violet
this
next marlin
12/6 Whats the best/your favorite way you've lost a game?
The game was awful, but with hindsight the proximate cause of the loss was funny: executed the good twin because the evil twin was bluffing lunatic
sour harness
half the group's first or second snv game. only one of the evil players had experience with the script. he coordinated with another minion, who then bluffed that he got philo snake charmed, that he was the starting vortox (the mostly checked out), and said his demon was one of his minions
zenith lotus
12/6 Whats the best/your favorite way you've lost a game?
was the mezepheles in a magician game. had multiple opportunities to say the mez word to one of the people seen as demon, but instead opted to turn the canni instead, since they were more useful. then, my fellow minion comes to me saying that they've figured it out, and that the person i almost turned was the demon. they had also outed to a public poli. i go to whisper with the demon, and we end up with a pretty good plan for the rest of the game, which started with executing the magician. as it turns out, the magician was the demon, the demon was the magician, the poli was the mayor, and we had been completely bamboozled. i always turn magicians now with mez.
fast anchor
12/6 Whats the best/your favorite way you've lost a game?
There was a Chef with a 1 who was confirmed by the Grandmother-confirmed Seamstress and had lived until f4. There was a clear Imp world where the socially evil RK just died and “cleared” the new Demon who was bluffing TC with the weirdest info ever (so probably the Marionette off the Recluse who just got starpassed to. Right?
The Grandma was ND-poisoned and saw the Drunk (Seamstress) as the Seamstress, while the “RK” was the Tea Lady who was getting marionetted by the actual Demon the whole time 
fast anchor
was the mezepheles in a magician game. had multiple opportunities to say the mez...
oh hey wasn't i the demon that game 💀
foggy grotto
12/6 Whats the best/your favorite way you've lost a game?
for some reason we didn't double tap this guy who was CLEARLY lifted off of TWICE because town was convinced "he was just a lleech"
like we tapped him
then there was a lift when we tried to double tap him
then i tried to get people to tap him again but this time he was DA protected
and then on f3 people were like "yeah he's just a lleech we tap someone else"
and surprise surpruse we lost
gusty bear
i remember a 20 player longtext game that ended up with the pyschopath chopping the lleech host
the lleech was outed evil because of the gangster, the pyscho was outed evil from like d1, and the marionette was outed evil after giving their vote token to the good beggar
the lleech host was the bounty hunter who learned the marionette and then the psychopath
next marlin
the marionette was outed evil after giving their vote token to the good beggar"Marionette's power is that they act exactly like good players" when the marionette acts exactly like a good player:
lean isle
I remember being in kibitz in that game. Town was convinced that BH was definitely not the Lleech host due to pings. Likely so was the Psycho who was never told who is the host.
I remember losing in a game where DA claimed Grandmother, tried to coldcall someone's role, failed, and used Sailor who drank them N1 and survived D1 exe as reason. The Sailor was the Shab, who killed them both on same night at some point. And eventually they got "confirmed".
hollow oasis
were you good?
lean isle
Yep
sour harness
I just ran (well a second time ST ran and I made sure he did so smoothly) a game where a second time player pulled the SW token. So anyways the demon double claimed the saint immediately and got gunslinger shot
I didn't lose bc I was the ST but I can tell she had a lot of fun losing lol. She got into a 4 layer bluff by d2 and was so close to winning the game
lost thistle
```the marionette was outed evil after giving their vote token to the good begga...
couldnt they just push that the beggar was evil and lying? how was the mario outed evil
lean isle
I found the grim reveal of that game. Alongside Beggar info there was BH and VI evil pings on Mario. As well as Mario's neighbour have survived Gangster shot. (I don't remember the script and not sure if there's any other one who can survive)
fast anchor
7/12: What statistics would go on a "BotC Wrapped"?
sour harness
"you consulted the storyteller 305 times. 2 were to use an ability."
sour harness
"you pulled flowergirl 6 times. You got flowergirl info for a grand total of 1 nights!"
(I'm pretty sure this is actually just true for me)
next marlin
"you pulled flowergirl 6 times. You got flowergirl info for a grand total of 1 n...
No you totally got 3 nights of flowergirl info that hardsolved the demon that one time, trust
sour harness
No you totally got 3 nights of flowergirl info that hardsolved the demon that on...
Yeah exactly!!
Last time I pulled flowergirl I got witch killed day 1 😭 that's a new record
hollow oasis
you played in 527 games.
lost thistle
Last time I pulled flowergirl I got witch killed day 1 😭 that's a new record
brb gardening you in an amne game to make you die n1 as flowergirl
sour harness
53 of those you said you were confused but really you were the demon struggling to build a reasonable world
next marlin
"you pulled flowergirl 6 times. You got flowergirl info for a grand total of 1 n...
"you played in 3 games with a flowergirl and 89 games where flowergirl was a bluff"
"the real flowergirls received a combined total of 0 nights of info"
sour harness
"as an evil player, you killed evil players with your ability 13 times"
next marlin
The last game I played we butcher executed the flowergirl d1 after the mutant self-sacrificed to try not kill the flowergirl d1, which at that point is just an accomplishment
sour harness
"your ass got saved by the scarlet 80 times"
next marlin
"you won 8 of those games"
sour harness
The last game I played we butcher executed the flowergirl d1 after the mutant se...
Incredible
hollow oasis
the weirdest thing that has happened in the games you have played:
Vigormortis-killing a good minion
sour harness
"you outed evil on the final day twice. It worked once"
Idc that I lost, this will forever be a memorable and iconic moment for me https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1314354400331956244/1314375573446856825/Screenshot_2024-12-05_at_6.39.13_PM.png?ex=67558564&is=675433e4&hm=b7c368a0455b46241511475f59d948cb61e7f2a0dcb54422395dd5fc3da91298&
sour harness
(I was claiming TL, my neighbors in f4 were the magician and demon)
hollow oasis
i removed sweetheart cuz xaan
sour harness
SH xaan seems fine?
hollow oasis
it's almost droison spam
sour harness
It's not like pois vortox where it's really funny
hollow oasis
Xaan vortox feels not great
it's just baron
sour harness
Yeah ok
sour harness
Xaan banshee 👎
sour harness
Booo
"you voted as a good player with exclusively legion 29 times. If you just kept your hand down you would've won every single one of those games you dingus"
hollow oasis
LMAO
pseudo fulcrum
I love that most of these are just insulting the player
hollow oasis
I love that most of these are just insulting the player
lol
pseudo fulcrum
"You killed 97 demonbane characters as the demon"
hollow oasis
You had a Poli win (that you deserved) 0 times.
young sonnet
"you got executed while playing a Demonsbane character 58 times"
lean isle
"You were the Village Idiot 37 times. You were drunk due to the setup ability 35 times."
zenith lotus
You neighbored an evil as Shugenja every time you were the Shugenja
lean isle
"You were the Village Idiot 37 times. You were drunk due to the setup ability 35...
"Other 2 being the Drunk and the Lleech host"
zenith lotus
You have been the sober and healthy Investigator that did not see the recluse 0 times
hollow oasis
You have been sober while playing 57 times.
pseudo fulcrum
"As the Bounty Hunter, you turned the Amnesiac evil 72 times"
hollow oasis
Get your alcohol problem in order.
pseudo fulcrum
"You died as an unspent 'once per game' role 61 times"
next marlin
You rolled Seamstress 67 times! You used it 2 times
lean isle
You've been successfully Damsel guessed 84 times.
pseudo fulcrum
"You guessed your Amnesiac ability once out of 103 times. And I bet you still feel proud of it to this day."
lost thistle
You've been successfully Damsel guessed 84 times.
you’ve been barber swapped with the outed dead damsel 3 of those times
lean isle
Actually, STs need stats too.
You gave 45 gamesolving pairs of Savant statements.
zenith lotus
You accidently disproved vortox 89 times
You've given mechanically impossible info 47 times
You used pacifist as an outsider every game you've STed with it
next marlin
You put Cerenovus in the bag 87 times. You madness executed a player 0 times
hollow oasis
you made the saint the red herring 777,546,300 times
zenith lotus
you made the saint the red herring 777,546,300 times
*777,546,300^2
gray ridge
You got DA protected as a good player 70 times
next marlin
You used pacifist as an outsider every game you've STed with it
You saved a tea lady neighbour 15 times
hollow oasis
*777,546,300^2
470,087,580,293,381,177,847,000,000
lean isle
You broke token integrity 328 times.
zenith lotus
You have been the damsel, outed it on d1, and won 23 times
You correctly predicted the upcoming release in #speculation-and-spoilers 0 times
dense hound
You thought you were the lunatic as the demon 32 times! and thought you were the lunatic as the lunatic 0 times!
zenith lotus
You've philo'd into an outsider 103 times and won every single time (because philoing into outsiders is just that good) 😉
foggy grotto
7/12: What statistics would go on a "BotC Wrapped"?
You played 0 games with a sober and healthy empath
hollow oasis
You played **0** games with a sober and healthy empath
yall don't run sober empath 2 next to the demon?
without much droison?
boring
foggy grotto
also an actual real statistic of mine: You’ve drawn the Nightwatchman token 1 time. You’ve picked the Vizier with your ability 1 time.
gray ridge
yall don't run sober empath 2 next to the demon?
Happened to me 🙏
dense hound
You've been the Zombuul for 56 days, over 3 games!
hollow oasis
You've been the Zombuul for **56** days, over 3 games!
you mean minutes right
fresh shard
You've been in 2 games where someone bluffed receiving a Nightwatchman ping from someone who actually sent one but was poisoned
fresh shard
Your longest streak was 8 games in a row drawing the minion token in a 1 minion game
You picked the correct player 0 times in final 3 as the only living good, out of we lost count games
barren zenith
7/12: What statistics would go on a "BotC Wrapped"?
You have never seen a mastermind day
fresh shard
I have been playing for a year and a half doing mostly base scripts and have never seen a Vigormortis or Shabaloth in play
hollow oasis
damn
fresh shard
(except in games I was STing specifically because nobody else seems to run those demons)
barren zenith
I have been playing for a year and a half doing mostly base scripts and have nev...
Everybody runs shab lol
*in my experience with BMR
fresh shard
My group has a few odd metas and this is one of them
Almost every BMR in my group is a Po
I have seen Zombuul and Pukka once each
hollow oasis
zombuul games are fun tho
barren zenith
zombuul games are fun tho
As long as they aren't 3 minion
fresh shard
My first BMR game was 15 player Zombuul and I can honestly say I enjoyed it a lot
barren zenith
Then they drag out too long
devout quail
You learned that the Drunk was in play as the Librarian 20 times.
You were the Drunk 15 of those times.
sharp violet
You Snakecharmed the Demon on Day 1 3 times! You got Snakecharmed as the Demon on Day 1 2 times!
foggy grotto
You Snakecharmed the Demon on Day 1 3 times! You got Snakecharmed as the Demon o...
“You lost all 5 games!”
dense hound
You klutz picked between the twin pair 4 times! One time it was a demon and minion bluffing twins.
lucid crag
12/6 Whats the best/your favorite way you've lost a game?
final 3 was 2 evils and a ft. All were sus but through socials alone the town came together to trust the ft.
They has a yes on one evil and a no on the other
They were made drunk by a plaguedoctor baron (we knew it was plague baron but thought it only made a sweetheart)
Emotionally it was a good loss since town was united in the decision (mechanically maybe bad but poisoner was on script and we made an entire world with no poison which made town so damn happy lol)
has anyone asked how people feel about xaan?
if not I think that would be a good next question
hollow oasis
people think xaan works with less droison
which basically just means xaan doesn't like droison spam
lucid crag
people think xaan works with less droison
agree, it feels like puzzlemaster to me, where the "mystery" is ruined by poison distractions
lucid crag
It should have 1 other droison yeah, otherwise it's too easy
lucid crag
*vortox is weird but anyway*
they are good on same script if hard jinxed /j
hollow oasis
vortox xaan kinda just needs TF that work that are mechanical
and very SPECIFICALLY mechanical
not all of them
just a few
gray ridge
12/6 Whats the best/your favorite way you've lost a game?
Snake charmed the demon D1 and the widow told them I was the snake charmer
sour harness
ok but thats iconic
zenith lotus
final 3 was 2 evils and a ft. All were sus but through socials alone the town ca...
hey, i think i was the FT in that game 😉
lean isle
Snake Charmer + Grim peekers is the combo of all times.
sour harness
it is and it's hilarious
sour harness
7/12: What statistics would go on a "BotC Wrapped"?
"the highest amount of travellers you've called to exile in a single day is 3. All of them passed!"
(happened yesterday)
next marlin
it is and it's hilarious
It's the exact kind of interaction that's great if the widow thinks it through and rapidly ends the game if it doesn't
fast anchor
just bluff another minion to your demon, no need to give them the widow grim :)
next marlin
"yeah I'm the godfather who accidentally got the same kill as you all 3 times"
I think you have to be self-poisoning for it to work though, which is lame and closes off opportunities like poisoning the damn snake charmer
fast anchor
poison someone and ask the ST to give the ping to a chaosplayer
"I don't know why they're bluffing a widow ping, they might just be a silly little guy"
next marlin
give the ping to the snake charmer so they hide it forever (assuming they're someone who would think to do that)
fast anchor
they out snake charmer with the widow ping
next marlin
me playing catfishing as the snake charmer in a non-widow game and loudly insisting on d1 that "no one would out a widow ping d1 because it's a fang gu drunk script, you can literally arbitrarily become evil at any time" in order to sell a poorly-hidden-mutant bluff
fast anchor
I mean it's fang gu + pit hag
sour harness
poison someone and ask the ST to give the ping to a chaosplayer
🙋
fast anchor
you don't even need the drunk for a widow ping to accidentally get moved
next marlin
even if there's no pithag there's a 99% chance of drunk and 90% chance of fang gu
sour harness
no, but my top role on this server is orange
i'm pretty sure i'm mostly skin color
specifically my skin color
which is not orange
shrewd cloud
Idk that profile picture is pretty orange
(Legally this is a joke)
sour harness
i mean yeah it's fairly orange
i'll give you that
however i do not look like my pfp irl
shrewd cloud
Gasp what a surprise
sour harness
im sorry you all had to find out this way
pseudo fulcrum
HYSTREX IS ORANGE NOW???
karmic slate
maybe you guys should go for red
ivory ridge
i unironically thought hystrex's pfp was the moana crab
now I don't know what to believe anymore
sour harness
LOL
young sonnet
What's red do
sour harness
it mean's your evil
karmic slate
But you get Lil’ Monsta after your name
young sonnet
Ohhhh Doomsayer is supposed to be red???
It seems orange to me
Like a blood orange
sour harness
Yeah I see that now actually
tacit fiber
Like a blood orange
I thoguht it was red until I read this
I cannot see it as red anymore
help
young sonnet
💀
zenith lotus
same 😭
sour harness
same
young sonnet
I'm sorry guyssssss
sour harness
Hey at least I'm oranger
lean isle
My life will never be same 😭
sour harness
Yeah I mean basically
young sonnet
omg I forgot about that meme lmfao that's a classic
zenith lotus
12/10: What is your favorite/least favorite minion?
sour harness
Marionette is my favorite minion but cerenovus and goblin are also amazing
My least favorite might be vizier?
sharp violet
Favorite: Cerenovus
Least Favorite: Mastermind
fast anchor
My least favorite might be vizier?
you literally made vizier's homescript (quadjank)???
hollow oasis
probably
In all seriousness, I can't decide
maybe Goblin
Maybe Organ Grinder
Mastermind, Vizier
yeah that's my 4
Goblin OG Mastermind Vizier, can't decide which is best
maybe add Xaan, if this question gets asked later
shrewd cloud
12/10: What is your favorite/least favorite minion?
Favorite: 
Least Favorite: 
I also quite like Goblin and Marionette. And new Boomdandy is so much better than old Boomdandy which was on the lower end for me
hollow oasis
new boomdandy is on par with pois
in power
boomdandy is high for me, but no organ grinder
tacit fiber
12/10: What is your favorite/least favorite minion?
shrewd cloud
I do generally like the Executioner model of character from SDGs but Fearmonger just doesn’t work that well to me tbh, so can agree with it being on the lower end of Minions
It just feels too weak to me, and that does affect my enjoyment of a Minion when it feels like it can be more of a downside for evil part of the time than a benefit
hollow oasis
Fearmonger is fundementally broken
severe raven
By self nomming?
hollow oasis
yea.....
still think Fearmonger should be either
-quieter
or
-fix self nom meta
fearmonger picking a player at the start without an announcement
and if they swap from that, it's loud
would be cool
gray ridge
12/10: What is your favorite/least favorite minion?
Fav: 
Least fav: 
I also think loud psycho is very funny
tardy wyvern
-fix self nom meta
this meta doesn't work because you will never execute the demon if everybody self-noms
gray ridge
Fav: <:organ_grinder:1088950208836141178>
Least fav: <:devils_advocate:58669397...
Tier list 🙏🙏
Boffin would be S and Xaan would be A
lost thistle
my favorite minion is the Recluse
sour harness
speaking of, why is spy on that tier list? spy is a townsfolk
primal crescent
Tier list 🙏🙏
Boffin would be S and Xaan would be A
Why is Pacifist in S tier?
(It’s an Outsider)
-# (The Spy is registering as an Outsider)
gray ridge
🤯
hollow oasis
this meta doesn't work because you will never execute the demon if everybody sel...
Then assume they’re evil!
not fun
tardy wyvern
yes, but what if they're not, and the person pushing on them is the fearmonger
hollow oasis
Tier list 🙏🙏
Boffin would be S and Xaan would be A
So sick of Evil twin hate
gray ridge
Evil twin on your game is ok
Being the evil twin is 
hollow oasis
yes, but what if they're not, and the person pushing on them is the fearmonger
“WhY wOuLd A gOoD pLaYeR nOt NoMiNaTe ThEmSeLvEs!!?!!?!?”
hollow oasis
Evil twin on your game is ok
Being the evil twin is <:vumito:912776917512507393...
Being ET is fun
gray ridge
I prefer it over DA anyway
gray ridge
Being ET is fun because you can mess around and kill yourself 🔥🔥
tardy wyvern
“WhY wOuLd A gOoD pLaYeR nOt NoMiNaTe ThEmSeLvEs!!?!!?!?”
because they don't want to die???????
gray ridge
"We are ET Juggler" "No I am the Sweetheart"
hollow oasis
because they don't want to die???????
Nominating themselves is an easier way to not die
in the shittiest meta on earth
tardy wyvern
the "meta" does not counter fearmonger though
hollow oasis
It kinda does
Good always noms self
Evil must in turn always nom self
Fearmonger is sad
hollow oasis
"We are ET Juggler" "No I am the Sweetheart"
Why would one do that
hollow oasis
Uhhhhhh
So your demon has time to die and escape
Seriously
Just like
Sell a world
tardy wyvern
Good always noms self
This literally isn't true if the good player doesn't want to die
hollow oasis
So get this
tardy wyvern
I've played loads of fearmonger games before and this never happens in my group
gray ridge
I mean just nominating yourself D1 and saying "kill me I'm the ET this is boring" is also very boring and useless
hollow oasis
And stops death
gray ridge
://
hollow oasis
I mean just nominating yourself D1 and saying "kill me I'm the ET this is boring...
Just play ET as intended?
gray ridge
Ur getting isolated anyway and no one will trust you because ur on a twin pair
tardy wyvern
Nobody has to trust you
hollow oasis
Get other twin dead
tardy wyvern
They have to trust you more than the other twin
hollow oasis
because they didn’t find the demon, you did
gray ridge
Thats actually funny
hollow oasis
Frame your evils
it’s like mastermind wins
But different
Try it sometime
On SNV
oh
And if you want to revert back
Hire a pithag
INCOMING WALL OF TEXT
next marlin
12/10: What is your favorite/least favorite minion?
What's a "favourite"
I'm literally the Cerenovus irl but madness is a kind of wonky mechanic that's very dependent on luck and ST competence, so my favourites to play are probably Spidow
Pithag is also up there
Least favourite probably either of pois/harpy?
next marlin
Fearmonger is janky but I don't care about it enough to have opinions
hollow oasis
Lmao
next marlin
My opinion is people should stop trying to use it as an ET substitute on snv
hollow oasis
Fearmonger should be quiet at the start and change later
that’s my take
It’s too loud to be good
gray ridge
Fearmonger is player dependant tbh
hollow oasis
Not a fan of roles that depend on metas
gray ridge
Ive seen losses because people overvoted because they forgot FM was in play
gray ridge
Then they were like "oh FM is in play we are fucked 🔥"
gray ridge
My first demon win was a FM win lol
hollow oasis
What the fuck
gray ridge
Evil team was cooked bc the alch psycho killed the godfather D1
next marlin
I saw a fearmonger win day 1 once (they lost because it was heretic)
gray ridge
I was ojo and killed the plague doctor and the other minion got the FM ability and chose the alch psycho
sour harness
My opinion is people should stop trying to use it as an ET substitute on snv
people do what
hollow oasis
Man the people I play with want to win so hard and forget nothing
gray ridge
Then everyone overvoted and evil won
hollow oasis
My opinion is people should stop trying to use it as an ET substitute on snv
Actually wait.
ivory ridge
actually wait x2
hollow oasis
WHAT IN THE FUCK
sour harness
i will not hear you out
ivory ridge
So sick of Evil twin hate
nah I think I will be perma hating evil twin
sour harness
# *WHAT IN THE FUCK*
oh nah thats a good reaction nvm
hollow oasis
THAT IS A WAR CRIME
primal crescent
W h a t
next marlin
people do ***what***
There's a small but pervasive family of scripts that are "snv but snake charmer and evil twin are replaced with something else" and fearmonger is a common one for the second. They are all the worst thing ever
sour harness
that;s so bad
gray ridge
I saw a fearmonger win day 1 once (they lost because it was heretic)
I had a fm D1 loss because they were claiming BH seen by high priestess and for some reason everyone bought it and got like 8-9 votes in 12 players
ivory ridge
just played an snv game where the good twin make a deal with the evil twin to turn evil (via pithag snakecharm) and we effectively have 4 evil alive
truly an evil twin moment
gray ridge
I was like guys why are we voting 😂
sour harness
i cant even begin to comprehend it
hollow oasis
VIVA LA REVOLUTION! MI REVOLUTION!
next marlin
I've also seen harpy and goblin for the swap
primal crescent
# *VIVA LA REVOLUTION! MI REVOLUTION!*
I nominate Hystrex
sour harness
goblin makes much more sense
hollow oasis
I nominate Hystrex
Hystrex dies
sharp violet
I totally forgot about Evil Twin, that is my actual least favorite minion (i primarily play longtext)
sour harness
harpy is playable
ivory ridge
Hystrex die.
hollow oasis
3
sour harness
neither are good
hollow oasis
2
hollow oasis
1
next marlin
7
fast anchor
7
hollow oasis
2
primal crescent
Oh bruh
hollow oasis
1
sour harness
7
ivory ridge
😭
primal crescent
axo
fast anchor
i nom nerd guy
hollow oasis
1
fast anchor
accusation: atheist game
gray ridge
My first demon win was a FM win lol
Second** because the first was a Legion win
hollow oasis
ST dies
primal crescent
BRUH
hollow oasis
He was already dead
sour harness
omg not my chef number in a legion vortox game
nah you gotta give a 6 because legion has 6 fingers
hollow oasis
Vat dies
ivory ridge
(there's a heretic in play)
next marlin
7
Last time I STed on the app someone was doing the livetext 7 at me during an end of day countdown
hollow oasis
3
primal crescent
oh fuck
hollow oasis
2
fast anchor
nerdguy doesn't know how to run riot atheist :)
hollow oasis
1
sharp violet
don't forget i'm here
hollow oasis
nerdguy doesn't know how to run riot atheist :)
Ask for exile next time
gray ridge
Ive also seen a sober chef 6 on a non-legion or typhon game
hollow oasis
lmao
primal crescent
Ive also seen a sober chef 6 on a non-legion or typhon game
fast anchor
Ask for exile next time
me when you don't clarify a houserule before the game and blame the players for not being psychic:
hollow oasis
Ive also seen a sober chef 6 on a non-legion or typhon game
This makes sense
next marlin
Ive also seen a sober chef 6 on a non-legion or typhon game
Average recluse
primal crescent
Wait so
gray ridge
It was all evils (4) + evil traveller + evil turn by BH + recluse
ivory ridge
legion vortox game
primal crescent
It was all evils (4) + evil traveller + evil turn by BH + recluse
Aahhhh
ivory ridge
btw i have a question
primal crescent
Literally a Matsuraid game
next marlin
It was all evils (4) + evil traveller + evil turn by BH + recluse
STs resisting the urge to tell the recluse the exact evil team
ivory ridge
can zombuul w/ spy boffin dies to virgin
hollow oasis
vat did not nominate
We need a sub
sharp violet
ah
ivory ridge
me! me!
primal crescent
Uuuhhhh
hollow oasis
Evil won
sharp violet
gg
hollow oasis
Mizu and Axo are the riot
primal crescent
I WAS RIGHT
sharp violet
i was going to nominate mizu 😦
fast anchor
ivory ridge
let's gooo evil team
sharp violet
gg
hollow oasis
I love livetext lite
fast anchor
🎉
fast anchor
I love livetext lite
maybe play normal livetext sometime
hollow oasis
maybe play normal livetext sometime
Hmm,
fast anchor
#livetext-event-listings 👀
sharp violet
i would if i was on when it started and if i had the time to at that time
hollow oasis
Depends
fast anchor
Luis let me shill
hollow oasis
Hey I’ll consider it
fast anchor
Do you hate fun or something
hollow oasis
Do you hate fun or something
I’m an app player
sour harness
luis join the livetext cult
hollow oasis
But then again
sharp violet
<#1226759492688023662> 👀
the only one there that i could join is the FYF one which i don't think is suitable for my first livetext
ivory ridge
i'd play livetext
fast anchor
vati
sharp violet
the only one there that i could join is the FYF one which i don't think is suita...
wait nvmi forgot about timezones
ivory ridge
unofiicial secret thing question: what's your favorite minion count in a game
sharp violet
i might be able to join this thursday
ivory ridge
And less than 4
are you a virgin cuz i want to kms by nominating you 🔥
hollow oasis
are you a virgin cuz i want to kms by nominating you 🔥
What kind of question is that
I just sat down
ivory ridge
technically lot can make it 4 minion right?
hollow oasis
my feet
hollow oasis
technically lot can make it 4 minion right?
Didn’t you say base minion count
hollow oasis
1,2,3
ivory ridge
what's yer favorite
sharp violet
I claim Alsaahir and guess Luis as the Demon and mizu as the Minion (I prefer 1 minion)
hollow oasis
They’re all good
hollow oasis
I claim Alsaahir and guess Luis as the Demon and mizu as the Minion (I prefer 1 ...
The game is over!
And the EVIL TEAM HAS WON
ivory ridge
you prefer 1 minion?
sharp violet
i do, but it's very close
hollow oasis
I like 3,2,1 equally
ivory ridge
that's interesting
hollow oasis
Sorry
sharp violet
I like 1 barely over 2, while 3 is further behind
also in 1-minion games what do you think is the best time to travel in
ivory ridge
final day
next marlin
unofiicial secret thing question: what's your favorite minion count in a game
I've found recently I really like 1 minion games but I think that's my main character syndrome talking (I can get somewhat more of the oxygen in the room and have an easier time solving if good, and playing good is generally harder for me than playing evil)
hollow oasis
I’ve gamesolved solo 2 minion SNV
ivory ridge
ppl would never exile trav day 1
hollow oasis
the witch helped however
next marlin
most helpful witch
hollow oasis
who got barber swapped to and won for being read socially good
next marlin
actually most helpful witch
ivory ridge
I’ve gamesolved solo 2 minion SNV
ok but have you solve a game where the minion lie to the demon 🔥
hollow oasis
ok but have you solve a game where the minion lie to the demon 🔥
BMR with a mastermind?
Yes
next marlin
if there are more people tbh
how do you think it gets more people huh
next marlin
the only one there that i could join is the FYF one which i don't think is suita...
My first livetext was a whalebucket of normal whalebucket + tba, nwc, fyf, and for
ivory ridge
how do you think it gets more people huh
least relentless recruiter 😭
ivory ridge
My first livetext was a whalebucket of normal whalebucket + tba, nwc, fyf, and f...
what
hollow oasis
fuck
ivory ridge
I’ve solved magician games
i've realized recently that i can solve game more often than i thought
hollow oasis
That sounds fun
next marlin
It wasn't quite normal whalebucket because we ended up with a 25 role script from all of those
hollow oasis
i've realized recently that i can solve game more often than i thought
I don’t play PG games
ivory ridge
fym 25
next marlin
hollow oasis
Lack of comintern is concerning
next marlin
average parker post
ivory ridge
i want to play with you guys sometimes 😔
hollow oasis
Kidding
ivory ridge
surely they are higher quality than livevoice 😔
next marlin
also livetext :^)
sour harness
livetext cult
hollow oasis
but you probably don’t
hollow oasis
right but when
Probably weekends
ivory ridge
no i do play on app 🔥 (only with my club though)
hollow oasis
Between possibly 1pm-7pm
next marlin
so you already have an account, very convenient
ivory ridge
Between possibly 1pm-7pm
are you aus?
hollow oasis
in midwest time
hollow oasis
are you aus?
Texan
next marlin
and you even already have a discord account, which is the only requirement to play livetext
next marlin
so between the two of those, you have no excuse
fast anchor
and you even already have a discord account, which is the only requirement to pl...
you need a keyboard
next marlin
are you aus?
try not to project literally anything based on what hours I'm randomly around
fast anchor
and you need to give me 20 dollars
next marlin
you need a keyboard
keyborsd
ivory ridge
keyborsd
hollow oasis
KeyboRSd
ivory ridge
anyway maybe i'll play with you guys sometime
hollow oasis
Highlighted by capitals
sour harness
you need a keyboard
ive played livetext without a keyboard
sour harness
and you need to give me 20 dollars
this is true unfortunately
next marlin
instructions unclear, stole 20 bucks from axo
fast anchor
instructions unclear, stole 20 bucks from axo
god damn it that's the second time
hollow oasis
You must pay someone $20
next marlin
is there a livetext coming soon
what hours approximately do you tend to be around, I'm still working out when to ping people
ivory ridge
me realizing i don't have ping
ivory ridge
what hours approximately do you tend to be around, I'm still working out when to...
whenever squ4ll is around i'm around
next marlin
lfglivetext role
ivory ridge
like, unironically
next marlin
also tell squall to take off NILivetext
fast anchor
You must pay someone $20
Scammer (Demon): Nominees lose 20 dollars, but may nominate again immediately. Evil wins after day 3. [All Minions are Scammer]
dense moat
*spec @burnt roost
low burrowBOT
*spec <@313359297088061450>
You are now shadowing ggrgra
fast anchor
hi lady mist
next marlin
list
fast anchor
FUCK OFF
burnt roost
well hi
next marlin
me getting banned from the server
sour harness
wait can i have 20 bucks from axo
fast anchor
wait can i have 20 bucks from axo
no!!!
sour harness
Scammer (Demon): Nominees lose 20 dollars, but may nominate again immediately. E...
old riot 😭
next marlin
she's been impoverished by repeated thefts so no
hollow oasis
the fuck did I just say
fast anchor
*the fuck did I just say*
don't care + didn't ask + L + ratio + bad takes on legion
hollow oasis
don't care + didn't ask + L + ratio + bad takes on legion
Woah theta
That’s not very interesting of you
sour harness
fast anchor
🇹🇦
ivory ridge
most appetiziing chipotle bowl
fast anchor
holy shit
hollow oasis
most appetiziing chipotle bowl
I order only rice
sour harness
is that JUST the rice?????????
fast anchor
is that a bowl with literally nothing????
hollow oasis
An entire bowl of rice
fast anchor
secret thing: whats ur chipotle order
ivory ridge
it's literally just cilantro lime rice why
sour harness
you can just buy rice?????? like from somewhere else???????????????
like the rice is good dont get me wrong
hollow oasis
it's literally just cilantro lime rice why
Yes
next marlin
I order only rice
you really are a legion trying to pretend to be human
ivory ridge
secret thing: whats ur chipotle order
nothing, chipotle sucks 😭
hollow oasis
I go to chipotle specifically for the cilantro lime rice
fast anchor
nothing, chipotle sucks 😭
- are you British because if yes then fair enough uk chipotle sucks
- where would you recommend instead
hollow oasis
And some guac
sour harness
secret thing: whats ur chipotle order
white rice pork lettuce cheese sour cream corn probably smth im forgetting
ivory ridge
1) are you British because if yes then fair enough uk chipotle sucks
2) where wo...
canadian, we just have a few better chipotle-like place tbh 😔
hollow oasis
1) are you British because if yes then fair enough uk chipotle sucks
2) where wo...
TaCo BeLl
sour harness
white rice pork lettuce cheese sour cream corn probably smth im forgetting
i just look at the options and pick the stuff i want tbh
next marlin
then again I end up in the furthest "orders a single black coffee from mcdonalds and leaves" corner whenever anyone I know makes the mcdonalds triangle meme for people they know and partially that's because I have gone to fast food places to order 1 drink and leave
sour harness
and put some cilantro in it
ivory ridge
maybe the wrong type of rice?
hollow oasis
They use bay leaf
sour harness
but why not add other stuff
fast anchor
taking another approach
sour harness
see? you even know how to make it yourself
hollow oasis
but why not add other stuff
Because i went there for rice
hollow oasis
see? you even know how to make it yourself
It does not taste correct
fast anchor
have you considered skill issue
sour harness
Because i went there for rice
do you also get chipotle normally sometimes
hollow oasis
do you also get chipotle normally sometimes
No
sour harness
have you considered skill issue
yes but now im invested
fast anchor
oh no same
fast anchor
im on the edge of my seat
hollow oasis
so my point still stands, why not add other stuff
I went for rice
sour harness
ok but like
hollow oasis
And I’d go somewhere else for mexican food
fast anchor
I went for rice
hollow oasis
I’m in TEXAS
sour harness
ok that at least makes sense. a little
fast anchor
*I’m in TEXAS*
lord have mercy on your soul
hollow oasis
Dawg it’s really not that bad
next marlin
hollow oasis
Indeed
ivory ridge
i'm not sure
hollow oasis
Can confirm
sour harness
yeah this is literally whats happening rn
sour harness
ok but texmex and mexican are different?? and chipotle is a third thing entirely
next marlin
yeah this is literally whats happening rn
I also buy food I can reasonably cook myself so I get it
hollow oasis
ok but texmex and mexican are different?? and chipotle is a third thing entirely
Yes
Texmex and mexican are both good
ivory ridge
what are some
sour harness
oh yeah both are great
hollow oasis
Taco bell is the esteemed fourth category
ivory ridge
example of texmex
sour harness
*Taco bell is the esteemed fourth category*
she is NOT esteemed
hollow oasis
Well they got rid of the one I used to go to
Did I forget to mention i have chipotle every single monday
For dinner
ivory ridge
what
hollow oasis
and honestly make tacos at home
ivory ridge
wait you have chipotle every week?
sour harness
Did I forget to mention i have chipotle every single monday
JUST RICE??????
rice for dinner is valid for the record
i have done that before and i will do it again
but it's homemade rice
hollow oasis
that bowl of rice is good
The employees memorized my order
I also get chips and guac
hollow oasis
Tried that
ivory ridge
rice for dinner is valid for the record
do you mean, only rice?
hollow oasis
Not the same i tell you
sour harness
The employees *memorized my order*
how do they even price it? as if you got veggies?
sour harness
do you mean, only rice?
yeah, often with some kind of flavoring/spices but that's not always necessary
next marlin
this is all hilarious but I completely understand
sour harness
oh yeah i completely understand but it's just funny
hollow oasis
That i get on the side
sour harness
what do you eat with the rice?
it varies for me from nothing to everything
hollow oasis
rice and chip?
With a spoon
ivory ridge
it varies for me from nothing to everything
for me i always cook at least some egg or vegetable with the rice
egg is easy enough
hollow oasis
chips are after rice is eaten
ivory ridge
hold on
so you eat the entire rice bowl
then you pull out the chip, put some cheese on and dip it in sauce?
ivory ridge
i
sour harness
if the rice was warm then no need for microwabe
hollow oasis
then you pull out the chip, put some cheese on and dip it in sauce?
No
Eat rice
Eat cheese (use hand)
The shredded cheese from chipotle
Then
Open chip bag
Eat guac
with chip
sour harness
i think we broke mizu
fast anchor
if the rice was warm then no need for microwabe
hey @lost forge can we get a microwave react when you can ty bestie
digital drumBOT
Gave +1 Thanks to @sour harness (current: #232 - 165)
hollow oasis
This is the highest quality shitpost because it’s real
sour harness
Gave +1 Thanks to **<@670814639373811712>** (current: `#232` - `165`)
you're welcome axo
fast anchor
fuck that thanked hystrex and not kisa bestie
ivory ridge
this is
this feels like
when the little mermaid goes up to the land
except it's about rice and cheese
hollow oasis
I’m chortling at the responses
sour harness
i love this so so much
hollow oasis
This was me picking a random image from my phone
ivory ridge
not you screenshotting this 😭
for some reason rice and cheese exists in like
2 different realm for me
sour harness
but when you combine them, they're... extremely okay
hollow oasis
Guac is after cheese
Does this make sense
All is separate
and also I’ve had the same Chipotle order for 25 years
ivory ridge
chipotle open in 1993 holy shit
sour harness
*and also I’ve had the same Chipotle order for 25 years*
i'm not even that old
hollow oasis
*i'm not even that old*
||Me neither but it’s for the bit||
ivory ridge
die
sour harness
||i see||
ivory ridge
yeah that make more sense
maybe one day ill revisit chipotle
i came there once in my life and didn't finish the food
ivory ridge
if i show this to my grandparents they'd have a stroke
next marlin
*i'm not even that old*
as far as I can goddamn tell everyone in this server except me is
- literally 15
- traditionally-aged undergrad
- in their 30s
hollow oasis
as far as I can goddamn tell everyone in this server *except me* is
1. literally...
Viva is like
60
next marlin
I parse him as 30s
hollow oasis
I saw a vid with his face
next marlin
but I think that psychological category includes some people in their 40s for the same reason the "literally 15" category includes everyone I realize at some point is in high school
sour harness
as far as I can goddamn tell everyone in this server *except me* is
1. literally...
this spans the entirety of human existence tho
hollow oasis
Wait how old is vat
next marlin
mid-20s
next marlin
my lifestage is "hurriedly finishing the delayed tail end of undergrad to go do a phd"
sour harness
Guess how old I am
14
next marlin
I was right
sour harness
13
next marlin
12
sour harness
12?
hollow oasis
Indeed
next marlin
yeah I had you in the first impressionistic category
hollow oasis
Fair enough
I’m me
people on the app mistake me for the second category
Very funny
next marlin
I think the app is noticeably older on average? in that it has a lot of people who are more real adults than I am
hollow oasis
I think the app is noticeably older on average? in that it has a lot of people w...
True
I’ve seen one other teen
fast anchor
as far as I can goddamn tell everyone in this server *except me* is
1. literally...
yep yep can confirm
next marlin
probably a consequence of the patreon
shrewd cloud
my lifestage is "hurriedly finishing the delayed tail end of undergrad to go do ...
I’m in my final year for my bachelors and I’m honestly so ready to be done with formal education. So definitely mad respect for anyone who still has a desire to keep going
Maybe I’ll feel differently in a few years but just ready to get my degree in May and move on with my life
next marlin
there are several people on the app I psychologically read as adolescent but there are also a lot of people who are clearly 10-15 years older than me
fast anchor
I think the app is noticeably older on average? in that it has a lot of people w...
this was my impression too
hollow oasis
there are several people on the app I psychologically read as adolescent but the...
Damn
rip my career
sour harness
i held a presentation night recently and one presentation was a grad student asking her grad student friends if they wanted to drop out of grad school and the overwhelmingly said yes
next marlin
many such cases
next marlin
see, I reinvented psychology from first principles, so I need to get my doctorate finally after failing before so I can have credentials for the kind of insane crackpot I am,
hollow oasis
Oh
sour harness
LOL
hollow oasis
Damn
sour harness
bro is freud jr
hollow oasis
heck
fast anchor
at least on this server, other observations:
- longtext skews a fair bit older than the general population
- livetext skews MUCH younger, it's scary how many minors are there
- live voice is about the dynamic vati noticed
hollow oasis
Impressive
hollow oasis
at least on this server, other observations:
- longtext skews a fair bit older ...
Live voice is where I lay
next marlin
it occasionally psyches me out how many obvious kids are on livetext but I guess that's the town of salem recruitment pipeline
hollow oasis
And get mistaken for a 25 year old
fast anchor
it occasionally psyches me out how many obvious kids are on livetext but I guess...
yeah it's kinda par for the course
hollow oasis
it occasionally psyches me out how many obvious kids are on livetext but I guess...
So goddamn true
fast anchor
So goddamn true
You don't even play livetext you can't say this 😭
bro thinks he's part of the team
next marlin
he is a tos recruit
hollow oasis
nerdguy you should play livetext
Look
next marlin
-# vatiyoushouldplaybmr
run livetext bmr :^)
hollow oasis
I don’t like people my own age in general
hollow oasis
But maybe
next marlin
many such extremely online teenagers
sour harness
nerdguy come with
next marlin
(I was once an extremely online teenager)
next marlin
wanna go rn
no I just woke up and am mainlining energy drinks and cannot solve coherently yet
sour harness
you dont need to solve, it's bmr and the evil team is gonna get 20 kills by n3 anyway
hollow oasis
nerdguy come with
And my phone has been 1% for an hour
sour harness
sounds like it can take another hour
next marlin
you dont need to solve, it's bmr and the evil team is gonna get 20 kills by n3 a...
see I agree to play bmr with you and axo because I expect either of you to run it competently
shrewd cloud
Either 20 kills by N3 or D9 and only like four people are dead
No in between clearly
hollow oasis
I have concert spam
sour harness
see I agree to play bmr with you and axo because I expect either of you to run i...
ty argues with axo about pacifist for 2 hours
sour harness
Either 20 kills by N3 or D9 and only like four people are dead
No in between cl...
and by then vati will be awake1!
next marlin
ty *argues with axo about pacifist for 2 hours*
narrator: they almost completely agree on everything about it
hollow oasis
Love my Tuba Violin weirdness