secret thing

[flat lintel]

what is this yapp about

[sour harness]

"I juggle that Nexus is the no dashii"
"I gossip that Nexus is the demon"
"I alsaahir that Nexus is the demon and hystrex is the minion"

I want them to follow that pattern

But alsaahir is an article and a noun, not a verb

[fast anchor]

congratulations to the good team

[flat lintel]

Just use arabic word for forsee

[flat lintel]

boohoo (im going to hate this role)

I have a bad track with slayer, this is worse

[sour harness]

Noooo i can't believe I was the reverse alchemist

[sour harness]

Look I blindly slayer shot the demon day 1 and still lost

[sly crescent]

i don't get it 😭

[sly crescent]

oh nvm here it is

[cursive cobalt]

I’m planning to just use “prophesize”

Or something akin to that

Lots of mechanics in this game don’t have a name, but you can always make your own

[flat lintel]

the mods are slowly finding this

[cloud plover]

There’s a hookah in the icon… maybe “smoked?”

Though I hear TPI hasn’t been the most culturally respectful with this role/flav/icon and I’m a little hesitant to refer to it when crafting the verb 😅

[pliant grail]

i might just not be getting it but I don't get how the role, flavor text, or icon line up with each other at all

[tall raft]

Al Sahir is like a magician or an enchanting person (I think, I don't speak the language at all)
So I think that lines up with the flavor text

The icon I have no idea about

[cloud plover]

"Al saahir" is "the magician," I've been told (making "the Alsaahir" translate as "the the magician")

I think the flavour text is implying that either:

• Alsaahir is the one responsible for the apperance of the Demon
• A "fate brings us together" perspective on the Demons existence necessitating a "trapper of Demons" type character, and the existence of this trapper of Demons driving the Demon to this specific location

The icon, I have been told, might just be a case of "slap something vaguely middle eastern onto the character with an Arabic name." If we want to be more generous, I know Chinese folklore has some stuff about "trapping people in gourds," and there's the whole "genie of the lamp" trope that I don't know the origin of, but might have roots in actual folklore. Maybe the hookah is what Alsaahir traps the evil team in when he guesses correctly?

[lucid crag]

I think other townsfolk need to hide it like juggler or gossip otherwise it just dies lol

[sour harness]

Welcome to blood on the clocktower lol

That's most of em

[tall raft]

It's strange to have a chinese folklore thing with an Arabic name
So I think that's a big stretch
There are much more likely factors

[hot orchid]

I think the flavor text is just "I'm here to trap you, and you're in my hookah because I put you there"

I think the Alsaahir inhales the evil team into the hookah somehow

[pseudo fulcrum]

29/6: If you could Boomdandy-ify any character and give it a similar but goofier name, what would it be?

[lucid crag]

do you have an example?

[sly crescent]

Plutoniumker - All but 3 players might die at any time.

[lucid crag]

Grammy - all but 3 non demon players start knowing your role, if you die they die

[pseudo fulcrum]

I imagined more like how kamikaze got changed to boomdandy, a much goofier name, can you come up with goofier versions of existing character names?

[lucid crag]

Buffoon

[next marlin]

Do the literal translation of Cerenovus and call it "Newbrain"

[minor pier]

Clockmaker > Time Lord
Cannibal > Omnomer
Courtier > Drunker
Engineer > Googler
Lycanthrope > UwU

[sly crescent]

Banshee -> Definitely Not Zombuul

[fast anchor]

Oracle —> Looker

Investigator —> Looker

Grandmother —> (Old) Looker

Bounty Hunter —> (Evil) Looker

[sly crescent]

Ojo -> Not Looker

[fierce reef]

--> Peacebird

[pliant grail]

--> jugglayer

[dense moat]

-> Hulk

[sly crescent]

i think 8/10 times i hear the ability use referred to as golem smash

or memory playing tricks on me

[sour harness]

Nah that's the flavor text so that makes perfect sense

[sly crescent]

i feel a "if superhero was botc.." question coming up

[sweet birch]

Banshee -> AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[sly crescent]

ye let's do it in reverse, Hulk -> Golem feels obvious

6/30: if a superhero (or any other cartoonish character) was converted into an existing botc character, what would they become?

[dusky minnow]

The Joker -> Goblin
The Riddler -> Amnesiac
Harley Quinn -> Fool

[sly crescent]

Hancock -> Sailor

[foggy grotto]

Spider-man -> Widow

[dense moat]

Captain America -> Soldier

[karmic slate]

Hotel -> Trivago

[fast anchor]

Even outside the animal similarity, I think this checks out. Spider-Man could totally get the grim based on his work at the Daily Bugle

[foggy grotto]

what about the Winter Soldier

[dense moat]

I’m going more for personality than anything else

Cap is very much the unbreakable type and has worked for the military more openly

So in both regards, I consider him, a better fit for Soldier than Bucky

[sly crescent]

no reason multiple couldn't compete for the same token; like i was trying to think of a classic boring and Superman also just gives a Soldier vibe

[dense moat]

Honestly, yeah. Superman does also make a good Soldier

[dusky minnow]

Kung fu Panda -> Monk

[lucid crag]

batman > batkeeper

[fast anchor]

Batman, ultimate detective, is a bird?

[lucid crag]

well invest felt wrong 🤷

[fast anchor]

I was gonna say Investigator

Maybe Lycanthrope with how much beating people up he does

[lucid crag]

Penguin = Butler

[primal crescent]

7/1: What colour does each character give?

[karmic slate]

is sky blue
is a deep purple

[sly crescent]

nah batman is a total wuss afraid to kill. probably Pacifist

[sly crescent]

politician - grey

[sour harness]

green

[fast anchor]

RK gives black

[abstract cosmos]

Reddish Orange, colour of fire type deal

[copper quail]

white

[sour harness]

I was thinking dark purple

[sharp violet]

: Gold(en ratio)

[dense moat]

Brain matter pink

[sharp violet]

Everything is Red, White, or Blue to me ngl

I think the Pacifist looks the most like what they actually are tho

[sour harness]

Yeah for the most part same

SC was the only one that stood out to me as any other color

[sour harness]

Look at her derpy little face

[flat lintel]

America?

[flat lintel]

Red blue gold or purple

[lucid crag]

black and grey

[sharp violet]

July 2: What was your favorite "I never thought I'd get this far" moment?

[fresh shard]

I had a Pit Hag player turn themselves into an evil twin, the demon got executed that day, and the evil twin managed to convince town there was a living demon still in play bluffing after three nights of no character deaths

[shrewd cloud]

I was bluffing Dreamer as a Pit-Hag one time and the entire time felt like it was going to fall apart since I kept reconsidering what my fake pings would be. Wasn’t until like F5 though that me being evil was seriously considered so consider it a job well done

[flat lintel]

Just 4 snakes. That game was tough and getting it to Final 4? 3? Can’t remember well was a pain.

Also the Amnesiac Besjbo game. That Demonhood was scary, and holding on to it to the end was insane. I was in the middle of what the fuck is this, oh yeah, social reads.

[fast anchor]

if you're mentioning 4 snakes i'll bring up luf+1 where your Widow instantly outed

[agile sigil]

SNV. Witch in No Dashii game with twins. Day 1: Curse the ND poisoned Sage, they die. Dreamer, while being on the block, publicly announces they’ve seen me as CM or Witch (I’m bluffing Philo.) They still die. Day 2: Curse the Savant. They die. Day 3: Curse the player who died at night. Finally get put on the block, but Mutant is executed because they were bluffing…Philo-Mutant. Day 4: Self curse and win with Demon & Twins alive

This isn’t even the only game where I’ve been N1 dreamed as a minion, didn’t take the role the dreamer saw, and survived long. I’ve had that happen in I think 3/4 minion SNV games.

[dense moat]

Played a hybrid homebrew script. Double claimed Hatter as Demon. Had to kill the real Hatter on F4. Somehow got my Minion killed anyway

[sharp violet]

7P S&V Cerenovus, N1 got dreamt as Snake Charmer or Cerenovus by Philo-Dreamer, (I was claiming Seamstress) I immediately went to talk to my madness target, and that made the town sus of them so they were executed, N2 made Clockmaker mad as Dreamer leading to a double claim and after I talked to them first they were executed, N3 made the Artist mad as Juggler, they had made a joke juggle so after the No Dashii-poisoned Clockmaker info put them on the block because I had talked to them first, they broke madness and I won

[rose vault]

What game/script is this?

[fast anchor]

4 snakes refers to a game of S&V, Besjbo's all-amnesiacs (Sax & Violins) is archived off-server

[lost thistle]

probably #1243972299686674552

just. the entirety of that game including the fact that we somehow won from a twin exe

[fierce reef]

😭

[indigo osprey]

claimining philo-mutant isn't breaking madness, unless they were using it as a hint to say they are philo-mutant

[agile sigil]

yeah they 100% were it was pretty obvious

[sly crescent]

7/4 what is TB's Chef cooking/serving?

[zenith lotus]

a strawberry cake for the lady with the red lipstick, a juicy steak for the dashing man in the hat, and a glass of wine for the tall guy with the mustache and... is that a trident?

[cursive cobalt]

Microwave dinners (he's actually just an seating chart planner covering for the real cooks who called in sick)

[sour harness]

That's like practically canon tho

[zenith lotus]

which one?

[sour harness]

The chef just knows where people are seated and who's with who

[lost thistle]

7/6
Suggest a tweak to an existing role (base 3 or experimental), that adds a bit of “spice”

i’ll go first

what if leviathan’s timer scaled based on the player count? instead of always being 5 days

[sharp violet]

What if Gossip killed on false statements instead of true?

[lost thistle]

youd just be able to add a “not” in front of whatever statement you would have said for the same effect

seeing how gossip statements are binary

its trivial to invert them

[zenith lotus]

what if slayer could shoot again if they killed someone?

[sly crescent]

amazing answer

[zenith lotus]

ikr

[sly crescent]

i just have my classic: snake charmer but no self-poison

[fast anchor]

What if:

when the Lleech’s host dies while the Lleech was droisoned, the Lleech got to pick another host instead of dropping dead once they sobered up?

[dense moat]

What if Professor was a bait role & resurrected someone if they were killed by evil at night?

[rose vault]

A friend did this once. Starting SC picked their neighbor, became the Vigormortis, thought they were screwed. They somehow convinced my friend to use the barista to make the new SC sober. They picked the starting SC, who because the Charmer again, who then outed and executed the Vigormortis to win.

[sour harness]

Oh I love that actually

[rose vault]

Are there any bait roles on BMR?

[sour harness]

Tinker

And even then not really

If evil kills a tinker that's a wasted kill in most cases

[devout quail]

i suppose the bait equivalent is roles that just don't die

but even then assassin don't caare

[sour harness]

Yeah

Fool can be played as a bait role

Personally I prefer to get executed and prove myself then force evil to spend a kill on me

Sailor can't really be played as a bait role unless you wanna be a good poisoner

[carmine dome]

Just bait as chambermaid

Can’t go wrong

[sour harness]

And TL and paci are displaced protection

[sour harness]

Hmmm yes definitely

[sour harness]

Well paci is just executions, but TL is displaced protection

[lost thistle]

philo-snek doesn’t self poison, right? since it stops being a snake charmer when the swap happens

oh speaking of. bad snake charmer interactions in base snv

barber swap yourself with the snake charmer. then pick them!
you are now a good demon

[sly crescent]

it's ruled as demon becomes a self-poisoning philosopher

similar with Cannibal/Pixie

i guess

[lost thistle]

genuinely surprised this doesnt come up much, i havent seen anyone talking about this

its. very unfun cheese

[sly crescent]

that is nice. has to be rare for the option to be realistic i imagine since you need the barber executed to be useful

and actually know+trust who snake is, otherwise u just throwing

[lost thistle]

evil demon, good snake charmer

barber gets executed

evil snake charmer, good demon
pick the demon who you already Know due to just having made them

good demon (who knows the entire evil team), evil poisoned snake charmer

[sly crescent]

at that point it's still night you self-kill for the win i imagine

[lost thistle]

oh yeah true

you just immediately self-kill unless theres twins alive

[lost thistle]

in which case you kill the twin first

and get yourself executed

small problem this is kinda unfun for the snake charmer and for the minions

“hey your demon has just betrayed you and theres nothing you can do about it! sorry..”

[lost thistle]

oh, they could also die to a witch i suppose

[sly crescent]

well i've heard stories of minions abandoning the demon - spy conspires with snakecharmer and gives demon slightly wrong grim

[lost thistle]

seems much easier to pull off since you’re Also Evil and can make up a fake plan where you want to swap somebody else

and go “yeah please curse the barber for me”

[sly crescent]

i'll have to think about it some more, i'm not immediately thinking this is super broken - because the player is acting in self-interest and needs a leap of faith if they swap with a non-snake they borked it

[lost thistle]

yeahh if you swap with a non-snake you’re basically done for

… wait

wait holy shit

swap with a philo go philo-snake charmer

philos are far more likely to claim openly

[sly crescent]

that's true, one step closer

[lost thistle]

they dont have to be a philo-snake charmer, they can be a philo-anything

as you become a new instance of the character

[sly crescent]

and actually it's far safer because if you take the real SC, there might be a hidden philo-SC drunking u

[abstract cosmos]

im trying to think through what an al had with no public announcement would be like

more killing would happen i assume

[sour harness]

What if chosen players privately learned the other choices

That's the kind of thing I expect would've been playtested before release tho so maybe there's a problem with it

Actually yeah, targeted players would just say who was chosen in the morning, it's not something you can really lie about

Since 3 people know

[devout quail]

chosen players learn who was chosen before them maybe?

same problem

[sour harness]

Yeah

[sly crescent]

what if Al-Hadikhia but you can choose "i'll do the same as the last guy"

[sour harness]

Alhad but they choose 5 players and if at least 4 live, all die

[carmine dome]

Or just choose everyone

If at least one chooses to live

All die

[sour harness]

Noooo

[zenith lotus]

choose any number of players and a number, if exactly that many players choose to live, they turn into cake

tastiest ability for the W

[sour harness]

Choose players until 2 have chosen death, those two die. Or, choose to explode all your current choices and they all die if they all chose live, or if 1 chose die then they all live

[zenith lotus]

what on earth lol

[sour harness]

It's like a push your luck thing

If you explode early, you miss out on potential extra kills. If you explode late, you might not get any kills

[zenith lotus]

interesting...

[sour harness]

If you choose live, it's a very similar dynamic to real alhad. If you choose die, you can stop the demon from exploding, or if they do try to explode you still live

Idk that it's balanced, but actually I think I wanna use this mechanic in a game at some point

[zenith lotus]

evil amnesiac time

said patters

[sour harness]

Nooo I meant not botc

Some other game

Likely not social deduction

[lost thistle]

al-had but you can choose to double it and give it to the next person

[sharp violet]

Legion: but they trade out the voting clause for permanent poppygrower and good players learn each other

Ojo: but misses make the next kill also change alignment instead of making arbitrary kills

Yaggababble: but it counts how many times anyone else says the phrase, but not you

Kazali: but you choose Outsiders instead of Minions

[sour harness]

Each night*, choose a player: they may choose either to die, or to live and let you make 2 more choices. You can't choose the same player twice in one night, and if you choose all good players in one night, your team wins.

Actually this might not totally suck

It'll get multiple kills per night more often than not but they'll be the worst kills available

Or at least suboptimal

[sly crescent]

exponential? i imagine this could results in everyone getting chosen on N2 a lot of the time 🙃

[sour harness]

That's why I added the wincon

[rose vault]

This reminds me of a demon concept I heard. Not sure if it's some weird unreleased thing:
"Players may raise their hands at night. Each night*, pick a player with a raised hand; they die. If no players do, evil wins."

[sour harness]

Weird

Similar to alhad but not quite as much

And notably it's quiet

[sharp violet]

It is very similar to an unreleased character (||Palabra de Dios||), but this is quiet while that ||does massive multi-kills||

I like the twist on it!

[sweet birch]

Not explicitly written here but I think once Al-had gets a kill this way it can't get more choices than it already has- otherwise you get the following scenario

Alice chooses to live-> 2 more choices
Bob chooses to die
Charlie chooses to live -> 2 more choices
(Ideally we would want to cut off here since Bob chose to die)
Donna chooses to die
Evie chooses to live...

The win-con is way too easy as written

[sweet birch]

Savant but you get two truths and a lie (vortox in shambles)

[sharp violet]

Monk, but it makes people safe from Minions instead of Demons

[sweet birch]

That already (sorta) exists it's called Preacher

[sour harness]

Oh I love that actually

[sour harness]

Assassin moment

[flat lintel]

I would play this

[sly crescent]

fisherman but you can only learn advice 😆

[fast anchor]

so this is just alhad but "double it and give it to the next person"

oh ath already made this joke 💀

[rose vault]

It's not that quiet. Other players who wake can see who has raised their hand, and if it coorelates with who dies, then that's strong evidence. However, the demon can also pick people who have their hands raised to simulate being that demon.

[hot orchid]

Savant, but each day you learn one piece of good advice and one piece of bad advice

[zenith lotus]

7/7 Swap one experimental character with a role on a base script and say why

[fast anchor]

Professor out of BMR, Nightwatchman in

Professor often hardconfirms itself and its target while being notoriously hard to bluff its successful state - NWM is similarly confirmy but way more bluffable

[sly crescent]

TB - drunk out, ogre in. could be fun

i guess drunk is really needed on tb, fine replace butler 🤷

[hot orchid]

BMR already has Grandmother which plays a lot like Nightwatchman, I'd sooner add in Cult Leader as a non information role that gives info

Or maybe even Cannibal or Engineer, although it's hard to say how they'd play

[sly crescent]

i think engineer makes zombuul or any combination of minions that doesn't involve DA

Cannibal rarely gets fed and when it does often doesn't wake

[hot orchid]

Fair

Engineer is such a tough role to use man

[sly crescent]

strike that i forgot how many bmr wake maybe it would actually be too good (if it could get the ability to go off against Tea Lady, Pacifist and Sailor)

[hot orchid]

I think it would be very powerful sometimes but not very strong at others

[sly crescent]

second alignment flipper on high death script = quick alive evil voting majority, no to cult leader too 🙂

[hot orchid]

It's also strange with Minstrel in that I feel a script doesn't need both

[hot orchid]

I think getting an evil Goon and Cult Leader in one game is pretty difficult

Both are on the harder end of roles to flip

[sly crescent]

you Po enough good players CL will only have evil neighbors 🤷

[hot orchid]

It's possible but limited enough that I wouldn't be there concerned

You have to kill exactly every good player except those two

I guess it's one fewer good player you have to kill

Not two fewer because you need a kill to flip the Goon

[sly crescent]

depends heavily on the seating arrangement. CL can start the game with empath 2

[hot orchid]

If the game has CL between two evil players and the Goon flips early, and then is like an eight player game or smth, then sure

That's not great

It is worth mentioning that the Goon does make the CL easier to flip

I also think that, thinking about it more, it doesn't fit the script a whole lot

Because it might be non info info but it's still not death info/night outcomes info

[sharp violet]

S&V: Philo out, Pixie in, more madness is fun and Philo is OP
(also does anyone have a good idea for a Snake Charmer replacement?)

[sour harness]

Philo is such a fun bluff tho

[sour harness]

NWM fills a similar niche but it doesn't feel like it fits with BMR. I'd do or (townsfolk), they fit the script better (but not the niche)

Math is maybe a stretch but it's also just conceptually cool on bmr

Acro kinda does a similar job anyway

[sour harness]

I'm nowhere near the first person to suggest TB - + - + - + +

[lost thistle]

didnt we already do this?

anyways this is several swaps but behold my masterpiece

[sly crescent]

a Townsfolk who's likely to lie about their identity and has potential to be used nefariously by Pit-Hag? let me think.. yes only Farmer and Gossip come to mind

so SnV but Gossip instead of Snake Charmer

not experimental 🥲 forgot the og question

[rose vault]

Gossip is basically a free artist question each day. There's no real way to have multiple deaths outside of Pit Hag tomfoolery.

[sly crescent]

which is why every game becomes a blast because you never know if it's demon change or gossip

[lost thistle]

anyways if i have to pick one

on SnV swap Klutz for plague doctor

like. these replacements alone (plus No Dashii->Legion) immediately turn SnV into a clusterfuck

i would make these changes because

https://tenor.com/view/chaos-gif-22919457

[sly crescent]

just Atheist for anyone is enough probably

[lost thistle]

adding plague doctor legion engineer and summoner to SnV instantly creates a bajillion terrible interactions

and i love it for that

[lost thistle]

one swap for each character type

not doing the atheist swap then

when the plague doctor dies and the st decides “yeah sure im the summoner now fuck it this is a legion game now”

why are summoner and plague doctor not jinxed

[lost thistle]

the evil team can also choose to put this into their own hands by going “okay so pit hag myself into the engineer. i will now create legion”

[lucid crag]

for , If you need town to exe wrong after demon is executed, make it after a minion is executed instead, might as well make it a nuke instead of a murmur

[rose vault]

Ooh, I like that one. It also makes "science!" a lot more dangerous.

"Hey guys I'm the sailor, let's see if the guy I picked is drunk!"
"[The "Sailor"] is executed and dies. Along with [Grandma], [Pacifist], [Godfather], [Goon]..."

That would be so evil.

[zenith lotus]

turns out, they werent drunk guys

[sharp violet]

New classic: for

TPI suggested it

[rose vault]

Bonus points if you have a final 3 where both the lunatic and demon are alive.
"Guys, guys, why are you pointing at me?"

[lucid crag]

I'd also consider swapping for , since similar results

[lucid crag]

and the courtier drunked boomdandy goes hard, the courtier drunked mastermind sucks lol

[lucid crag]

Mez turns can only happen if the mez word is said in town square, I saw that once and liked it a lot

like it much more than +1 evil if you have someone say golfball in a private whisper

also is more in line with yaggababble

[rose vault]

Wait, so: who wins, Minstrel or Boomdandy?

[sly crescent]

Minstrel wins #experimental-how-to-run message

[hot orchid]

Yeah, that's the main reason I don't like it there

Not a very good or fun interaction

[fast anchor]

i made a script with Boomdandy and a bunch of BMR-like characters

I concluded that it's just not a very fun idea

it makes town paranoid to do anything ever

It's like the opposite problem that Lleech on BMR-like scripts has

[lucid crag]

problem solved, put leech and boomdandy in bmr

remove zombuul mastermind

/hj

[rose vault]

Lleech poisoned sailor goes for the self-nom day 1. 😭

[lucid crag]

boomdandy goes for the self nom day 1

[sour harness]

Sailor drunk lleech goes for the self-nom day 1 👀

[sly crescent]

DA protected sailor drunk lleech goes for self nom day 1?

[foggy grotto]

fool to some extent

[sly crescent]

Goon 🙃

[fiery finch]

7/9: what is this thread doing in the custom scripts channel?

[zenith lotus]

shh its a secret

[sour harness]

Don't worry about it

[dense moat]

https://tenor.com/view/йокелемене-men-in-black-light-sunglasses-gif-15516530

[sly crescent]

technically not a channel, legal loophole

[fast anchor]

10/7: You can modify any character name (or script name, why not) by adding, changing, or removing a single letter. What horrible horrible changes do you make?

[sour harness]

Pool was the first thing I thought of and it's dumb enough that I love it

Leech

Alternatively, lleeech

oo

[zenith lotus]

jo

best demon

[sour harness]

pissie

(1 letter is so little)

cockmaker

jiggler

theist

Barbara?

chafe

good (not confusing in the slightest)

[minor pier]

simp (for dat SW)

[cloud plover]

Poo

hehehe

[fast anchor]

I think you misunderstood the prompt a little

[sour harness]

That one had a question mark for a reason

[cloud plover]

Damnesiac

FARTIST

God I'm going to burst out laughing during a meeting

I'm too funny

Gatheist

Manshee

Fannibal

Mpath

[lean isle]

Bonk

[cloud plover]

Wisherman

Methematician

Another gold one

[shrewd cloud]

The dreaded, evil, maniacal P

[sour harness]

The o and its older sibling, the oo

window!!!

[sharp violet]

cut leader

poopy grower

Bad Mood Rising

[shrewd cloud]

Boomsayer, the summoner of Boomdandies

[sharp violet]

ore

[lean isle]

Butter
Anger

[shrewd cloud]

Age

[sour harness]

sag

[foggy grotto]

Dunk

Moochild

Ill Monsta

Tinkler

[cloud plover]

TWINKER 🔥

Devil's Dadvocate

Sadge

Wang Gu

Rambler

Reacher

Layer

Hugenja

Night

Cuntsman

[karmic slate]

"You might death drop at any time"

[fast anchor]

you're good at this.

[dense moat]

Aaron: The guy with a top hat

[cloud plover]

PIT SHAG

Oh my god it's terrible 😂

[foggy grotto]

Paint

[zenith lotus]

harpyd

[fast anchor]

i take it back.

[cloud plover]

More wholesome then

Pit Hug <3

[dense moat]

Bitch

[cloud plover]

Each night*, pick a player. Hug them

[cloud plover]

I cannot believe I did not see that

[sour harness]

Too confirmable

Bad character design

[fast anchor]

it's bluffable

[cloud plover]

I wanted to come up with a funny response, but the virgin react is 12x funnier than anything that could possibly have been said

Well done, axo

Kink

Oldier

[dense moat]

Choirtoy

[cloud plover]

Snake Harmer

[sour harness]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-horrors-beyond-our-comprehension-low-tier-god-mods-banned-gif-8530537273735940092

I was looking for the slayer shoot this guy gif but I couldn't find it

[cloud plover]

Casherwoman

[fast anchor]

one sec

[dense moat]

Bearmonger

[fast anchor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/845749635016556617/1207720780276826212/caption.gif

[dense moat]

Boomdaddy

Chief

[sour harness]

Ty

[cloud plover]

THIGH PRIESTESS

Another one for the books

I've got a new favourite role 🙏

[sour harness]

NOOOO

[fast anchor]

chenry liking the HP? who are you, and what did you do to that weeb?!

[sour harness]

Each night, learn who the Storyteller thinks is the thiccest.

[fast anchor]

NO

[cloud plover]

Socials smocials I won't be able to find a mechanical solve anyways when my heads getting crushed like a grape

[sour harness]

That's not a sentence I thought I'd read when I woke up today

[fast anchor]

jail time, all of you

[sour harness]

You literally started it

[dense moat]

Methematician

[fast anchor]

...shut up

[sour harness]

💙

[cloud plover]

@dense moat

https://tenor.com/view/mario-vs-hiyaa-parallel-universe-super-mario-gif-16136123

[cloud plover]

You can jail my flesh, but the truth cannot be imprisoned! The Light of the Thighs shall shine on the world!

[dense moat]

Evil Twine 🧶

[sour harness]

We really didn't need to change high priestess to make it funny. She's literally high

[cloud plover]

Fun Fact: The "High" in "High Priestess" is a reference to the level of uselessness HP achieves in an average game

Oh wait

MAYO

10/10 would instrument again

[sour harness]

You misspelled usefulness but ok

[cloud plover]

Social info is no info

[sour harness]

It's not an info role it's a support role

[cloud plover]

It's GARBAGE /lh

Sexorcist

[sour harness]

I like HP but not general. General is a social "info" role, HP is not an info role

[sour harness]

TRUE

[cloud plover]

Cunt Leader

[sour harness]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/845749635016556617/1207720780276826212/caption.gif

[cloud plover]

This is a fascinating take

I feel like General is slightly better because I can estimate game state off of it

HP is either "this guy is evil" or "this guy is good" or "one of us is poisoned"

[dense moat]

Spit Hag

[sour harness]

Botc is a game about talking. Doing so effectively is how you win most games. HP's power is to help you talk to others in the most effective way possible

[cloud plover]

Huh

Y'know what, not a bad take

[sour harness]

Ty

[cloud plover]

Galchemist

Bounty Cunter

[sour harness]

I used to hate HP until I realized what it actually was

Aaaand we're back

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/845749635016556617/1207720780276826212/caption.gif

[cloud plover]

Alright, I think that's all the townsfolk

Time to see what's in the outsiders

Oh wait

[dense moat]

Buttler

[cloud plover]

Gavenkeeper

Gailor

Sayer

Stewart

TEAT LADY

[sour harness]

Gayer

[cloud plover]

I wish, but it requires two letters 😔

If I could only access the "wh" combo there would have been so many whore jokes

[sour harness]

Yeah but it's funnier if you allow an extra swap sometimes

[cloud plover]

Town Cried

Firgin

[foggy grotto]

PIG HAT

[dense moat]

Organ Grindr

[sour harness]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/845749635016556617/1207720780276826212/caption.gif (but girl instead of guy)

[dense moat]

Knightwatchman

Fang Gun

Limp/Pimp

Happy

Footlegger

Moblin

Bengineer

[cloud plover]

Incestigator

Alright, I think that's the worst one so far

Crofessor

Winstrel

Tea Lad

Crobat
Drank
Gotem
Goo
Hater
Wheretic
Mutaint
Ocre
Taint
Switch
Sweatheart

[pseudo fulcrum]

I've been laughing so hard reading all of these 😂

[abstract cosmos]

thigh priestess lmao

best one i can come up with is what happens when Mario Puzo writes a fishing episode

[dense moat]

Starlet Woman

[abstract cosmos]

Codfather

[dense moat]

Warionette

[sour harness]

The demon thinks they are a good character, but they are not. You know who you are. [The demon neighbors you]

[dense moat]

https://tenor.com/view/wario-mario-party8-shaking-soda-soda-mario-party-gif-23915793

[sour harness]

Wait isn't this just Hannibal but it sucks

[cloud plover]

Whenever an outsider is executed, choose a player. They turn into a fish.

Not a fisherman, just a fish

[sour harness]

Once per game, during the day, you may visit the storyteller

[zenith lotus]

"You may only visit the ST once per game. When you do, if they are not the Demon, they die."

[sharp violet]

Hannibal

Same ability, but is evil

[sly crescent]

Taint 😂

[dense moat]

Monke

Morgan Grinder

[sly crescent]

Assasssin

[vale oxide]

Asssssin

[sweet birch]

Sets and Violets

So I don't get weird looks when saying the name out loud

[dense moat]

Trouble Bewing

Make it canon : )

[sour harness]

So you not just say sex and violence

[foggy grotto]

Bad Moo Rising

[rose vault]

Night: Outsider: you might register as Night One

-- An actual ability brought up in an already scuffed game I was playing here a while back.

[digital drum]

"TakeRep" command returned an error: strconv.ParseInt: parsing "An": invalid syntax

[patent elbow]

Pegion
fortune seller
gobling
layer
food
sag
herelic
Pea lady
badshee
mayork
Peggar
Puntsman
Fukka
damself
Ping
goop

[pliant grail]

Gassip : once per game, sip some gas

Player : any ability that chooses a player is redirected to you
Magiccan : food can not spoil while you are alive
Sailed : on your first night, travel out.
IMO just yaggababble except with a controversial opinion instead of a phrase
BoomMandy : when you are executed, everyone named Mandy dies. After a minute, the player with the most people pointing at them becomes Mandy.
Poopy grower : do I really need to say more?
No dash: : you may not sprint, only fast walk
Nightwashman: once per game, choose a player. Learn that they and another player is one of two townsfolk.
Bansee: : when you are killed by the demon, everyone closes their eyes during the day for the rest of the game.
In-vest-Gator

[lucid crag]

Creamer

[fast anchor]

this was a terrible question why did i ask this

[cloud plover]

Bron
Boomhandy
Evil's Advocate
Evil Win
Earmonger
Gobin
Godfater
Larpy
Marioette
Meshit
Organ Grinner
Noisoner
Scarlet Oman
Carlet Woman
Py
CUMMONER
Wizier
Wiow
Itch

@fast anchor I think you'd enjoy "Cummoner"

One of my finest works, I think

@vital grove @obtuse condor

[cloud plover]

This one

[vital grove]

buy her dinner first!

[fast anchor]

death sentence

[dense laurel]

Organ Grindr

[cloud plover]

Saggababble
Bombuul
Reviathan

Demons are significantly less funny

Ono

Capegoat
Punslinger
Leggar
Bureaucrap
Thier

Bitcher
Cone Collector
Warlot
Bearista
Defiant

Fapprentice
Gatron
POUDON
Pudge
Bichop

Wangster

I think "poudon" pronounced "pooed on" is my favourite here

Wangel
Bruddist
Widdler
Boymaker

Ribbin
Buchess
Bentinel
Bootylegger

[sour harness]

nightwashman is actually so overpowered

[hot orchid]

Youse are sleeping on Mimp

[dense moat]

@dense laurel

https://tenor.com/view/ahead-of-you-gif-18442352

[dense moat]

7/11: A BotC character has started a Youtube channel. Which one & what is its main content like?

also what would they name their channel?

[zenith lotus]

cult leader, who posts about their (totally good) cult and how everyone (totally) loves being there.
its called "the best cult you've ever been tricked into"

[sour harness]

crypto channel

[cloud plover]

Undertaker

Unboxing videos

"Buried Treasure"

[sour harness]

one of those riddle channels that pumps out videos like daily and it's just recycled riddles that you've already heard before

[dusky minnow]

They just reupload one specific channel's videos

Or worse, remake the same content and claim that they did it first

[foggy grotto]

Mukbang

[dense moat]

That channel is the good twin’s specifically. They copied their own sibling

[dense moat]

True, but given who we’re talking about, they’d probably get demonetized. And arrested

makeup/fashion tutorials

Kisses in Krimson

And yes, I do think SW has a vast lipstick collection.

[sharp violet]

I sure would love to be the Magiccan right now

[sharp violet]

: Popular gaming channel

[sour harness]

We need a gamer role

Icon is a controller, and it's some kind of townsfolk that has to do with controlling something

[shrewd cloud]

The Amnesiac’s channel is an ARG mystery video series where the viewers will slowly learn more and more about the Amnesiac’s backstory

As for name uhhhh

“My Life as a…?”

[sweet birch]

The Savant makes videos of 500IQ sudoku puzzles, and the Shab makes mukbangs

[shrewd cloud]

all make a channel to chronicle their journey raising a child (). A family blog if you will

[sweet birch]

Oh that's truly evil

makes cooking videos

[rose vault]

Reminds me of: https://youtu.be/9rlUmxt3Nt0

[fast anchor]

Real Civil Engineer is this I think

[sharp violet]

Yeah that sure seems right

[sour harness]

Oh absolutely

[dense moat]

Honestly, I though the engineer bit was a reference to how Markiplier studied engineering before his Youtube career

[foggy grotto]

with

[sly crescent]

Savant basically CTC 😄 ye sounds right

not sure what content they'd make, but chars like Sage, Farmer and Boomdandy i imagine are experts in clickbait titles

Boomdandy probably just uploads various rickrolls

[dense moat]

Or on a darker note, was banned from YouTube because they tried making tutorials for homemade bombs

But the Rickroll idea is better tbh. That one is funny

[sweet birch]

Yes but faster and they don't explain their process at all

They just do it and then are like "see, easy" and their viewers sit there stunned

[dusky minnow]

Speedrunner, but also focuses on cash bounties within speedrunning (like finding a human viable way to do a certain trick)

[fast anchor]

and have a channel together where they discuss politics. it’s actually decent content because both of them are very reasonable people

then they invite as a guest, it goes viral so they feel pressured to keep him on, and it goes downhill

[sour harness]

This is why we need to discriminate against outsiders

||this is a JOKE||

[dense moat]

“This town has gone to the dogs, what? Cheap foreign labor... that's the ticket. “

• the Baron

[foggy grotto]

political car rants

[sly crescent]

i always bully saints irl

and tinker's just dead to me

[pseudo fulcrum]

12/7: A simpler one, but always interesting to hear people's opinions, which Empath number would you most want to get and why?

[zenith lotus]

-57. its always good to know that -57 of my neighbors are evil

[sly crescent]

69 because funny and gives overpowered info. otherwise 2 is objectively best

[fast anchor]

agreed 2

[sour harness]

Yeah 2 is most powerful

1 is the least powerful

But they're all broken :)

[next marlin]

2 in a game with 2 face-up outsiders of whom neither are sitting near me

(I have been an outsider in a game where this happened, it was funny)

alternatively, 3 so I can be mechanically confirmed drunk

[sharp violet]

0 because I like having people I can trust

[sour harness]

Trust everyone else if you get a 2 lol

0 could be a spy

[sharp violet]

Not if spy’s not on the script

[sour harness]

True, but TB is empath's home script

[lucid crag]

1, I love randomly exing neighbors and being drunk and killing 7 goods

[sour harness]

Drunk is an outsider 🤷

[vital grove]

i always want to receive a 2, because i immediately know i will not have a boring time

[sly crescent]

empath 2 neighbor chat: MEZ WORD OR ELSE!

[severe raven]

1, but I claim to have a 0 to my neighbors so:

• the good neighbor thinks I'm trusting them
• the evil neighbor thinks I'm the Drunk

[sour harness]

See but that's even better if you have a 2

[carmine dome]

Empaths are never real

[sweet birch]

Plot twist, you are the drunk

[lost thistle]

hi

7/13:
help, i cant come up with a good question!

come up with a future question to be asked here!

[dusky minnow]

New character release! What are your thoughts on the Will-o-Wasp?

[sharp violet]

What's the game you're most glad you lost?

[sharp violet]

Not a fan, it kills too slowly for the benefit it tries to provide, having it be 1 KpN would be fine

[sly crescent]

what are most interesting ways for game to be prematurely over (demon and 3+ players alive, e.g. all evil final 3)?

[rose vault]

One of the games I played, there somehow ended up being 6 evil players, thanks to a cult leader and mezepheles. The Al-Hadikhia managed to ressurect the entire evil team before winning.

The mez-turned player... was the damsel.

[fast anchor]

Pit-Hag turning the Demon into not-a-Demon and ending the game is up there

[warped fog]

it's interesting but we don't need Zombuul 2

[warped fog]

[lost thistle]

cult leader win

because ive never seen it happen ever

[fast anchor]

I've seen it happen a bunch

D2 cult wins 🔥 🔥

[sour harness]

At that point just kill everyone for funny

[sharp violet]

Probably the most famous one too because it’s in one of the NRB Live videos

[sharp violet]

Lleech host as last good player with ST having Mastermind ability from PD is unwinnable for good

[sour harness]

You accidentally forget to tell the good twin that they're a twin pair and have to rerack 🫠

[lost thistle]

funniest way this can happen is due to a snake charm happening the same night

“yeah im gonna turn this person into the barber. okay cool”

oops! turns out that person just swapped with your demon

[sour harness]

Once I STed 2 games in a row where a pithag made a demon and a snake charmer hit a demon on the same night

[sharp violet]

Yes that’s what happened in NRB, we already know that

[sour harness]

(not everybody watches nrb)

[dense moat]

7/14: What is your least favorite interaction between 2 characters that aren’t jinxed with each other?

[sour harness]

Poppy grower and lleech

If the PG is the lleech host, the evil team can never learn each other

[zenith lotus]

Poppygrower Pukka

[sour harness]

Unless the lleech is doisoned when the PG dies... but you know...

[sour harness]

Yeah same idea

That's probably even worse actually

[dense moat]

Realizing there are 3 different Demons who all really don’t like interacting with PG…

[sour harness]

No dashii?

[dense moat]

[zenith lotus]

also kazali

[sour harness]

Oh no vigor too if your ST is cruel

[zenith lotus]

but for the opposite reason

also ojo

[sour harness]

Conclusion: poppy grower more like poopy grower, use magician instead

[sour harness]

Ojo is fine I think

[zenith lotus]

eh, its better than most "bad" interactions yea

[sour harness]

(this is partly a joke for the record. Like I agree with it but using PG is still valid, make what you want y'all)

[dense moat]

It also hints Ojo could be in play

[zenith lotus]

true

[sharp violet]

I’m personally not a fan of

[sly crescent]

Alchemist-Marionette is up there

[sour harness]

Alchemist everything lol

[shrewd cloud]

Some at the top of my head

/ /

/

[sour harness]

I feel like is less of a poor interaction as it is general poor script building

The rest I agree with

[shrewd cloud]

That’s fair since the two are (or at least shouldn’t) actually be in play together, they just lead to problems by being on the same script

King one especially feels so rough since it feels like it severely limits the kind of scripts King can be on. I also just like Pit-Hag so it makes me salty

[sly crescent]

tomato tomato

[shrewd cloud]

I think the big thing is that Legion and Atheist aren’t ever actually in play together (shhh I don’t care Atheist can break rules), so they don’t directly interact per say like a Lycan and Al-Had can

That being said the two are still bad together for different reasons, big one being that it makes Legion significantly more punishing and difficult than it already can be

[sly crescent]

Atheist being on script enables the good team's lose condition of executing the storyteller, i'd call that as close as it gets to direct without being in play together

[sour harness]

The fact that I read this pronounced the same way twice is so funny to me

[fast anchor]

ehh, isn't the worst thing ever

especially online

it's just a pain in the ass IRL

and given that it's a Legion game you aren't waking up many other people to begin with

[lost thistle]

amnesiac + vortox

enjoy never being able to figure out your ability ever!

[sour harness]

Also

Can't wait to learn a nearly arbitrary player each night

[patent elbow]

/

all on script with no

[lost thistle]

oh actually
choirboy + assassin/godfather also very stinky

[fiery finch]

/

[sour harness]

I wanna make a script like this with a fabled that has the first half of the legion ability and see what happens

[zenith lotus]

i’ve had the same idea lol

it didnt go well…

[sour harness]

I should be taking that as a note not to try it but part of me wants to take it as a challenge

[fast anchor]

too, esp with a 5star general

[rose vault]

You can't. A demon wasn't created.

[hot orchid]

Notably still doesn't solve Politician

[foggy grotto]

7/15 probably asked before but if you could change the flavor text of any character in the game which one would it be and what would the change be

[lost thistle]

add an extra dot to the assassin

[fiery finch]

Replace the DAs whole flavor with the chicanery monologue from better call saul

[fiery finch]

or maybe savant

[lost thistle]

for an actual serious suggestion id probably change the kazali's flavor

probably my least favorite one

[sly crescent]

Mathematician. it's decent but something more to the point would suit it better

[sour harness]

Honestly just the last line of it is great in its own

"Ergo, you are drunk"

[fiery finch]

“you can pick your friends and you can pick your nose, but you can’t pick your friends noses”

[zenith lotus]

except when you can

[dense moat]

Or “You pick your friend and you can pick your nose. Only I can pick your friends noses”

[zenith lotus]

cerenovus vibes

[sour harness]

Is that a challenge

[zenith lotus]

7/16: Choose two characters such that when one person has both abilites, its horrible for them

[sly crescent]

interesting question because not limited by Philosopher ability
barista 2 Philo- Saint-Recluse or Saint-Damsel is not even unplayable now that i think about it, would be horribly silly choices but 🤷
Ogre+Heretic might be more horrible and still within technically possible
good Damsel with Evil Twin ability would just be sad

[sour harness]

Not the worst thing possible but it's funny

[fast anchor]

If you ever make a cult, your team loses

[sour harness]

[sour harness]

Ooh, thematically consistent too

[sour harness]

Specifically if it's known that these abilities are paired

Honestly that sounds fun actually

[lean isle]

I remember having this idea of combo before.

[fast anchor]

If the SC still self-poisons the Virgin ability it's not the worst thing ever

since you can't prove you, the former Demon, just got snakecharmed

[next marlin]

If you do not call for a cult each day, your team loses, even if dead, drunk, or poisoned

[sly crescent]

Shabaloth Lycanthrope you can only kill 1 good player each night and either of your last night choices might come back to life.

[sour harness]

or ceremad are both possible on their home script 👀

[sour harness]

Yeah the more I think about it the more it feels like an actually decently fun character. But it means that whoever pulls it is less likely to win (even less than your average SC probably)

[sharp violet]

[dense moat]

Basically guarenteed to die N2 : )

[sour harness]

Ooh

[dense moat]

I'm proud for coming up with that one

[sour harness]

It's a good one

[dense moat]

It also hurts you in either alignment. Either you mess up your TF neighbors & die. Or you are the Demon & die, which makes you lose

[sour harness]

One Night Not-So-Ultimate Clocktower

[sly crescent]

you win

[sly crescent]

actually broken strong. can always prove themselves to be currently good while alive - obviously doesn't want the cult to form ever, every good player should vote yes (and evil to blend in) and CL-Heretic doesn't vote - proves they are good 😆

[fast anchor]

can't you also do this with the normal cult leader 🤔

[foggy grotto]

[sly crescent]

if u met a cult leader who reliably doesn't vote for their own thing i guess

[foggy grotto]

is funny

[sly crescent]

Yaggababble Widow not so great because everyone's on guard about the phrase if they know it's in play

[next marlin]

Twin Politicians be like

[next marlin]

Kazali flavour text is cool because it has this freaky transhumanist thing going on

The Kazali is a rogue AI with mind control powers

It warps the townsfolk into its minions

Also it's doing all of this in a clockpunk way

There's a reason my Kazali Cerenovus script is "Clockwork Cyborg"

In summary, Kazali is based

[lost thistle]

Tinker , um.

literally any role that hates dying

oh!

damsel king 💀

[next marlin]

Tinker-Sage-Recluse

[mild notch]

If the Cult Leader is Evil then the Evil team can win from their cult without them joining their own cult. So the Good team isn't safe when checking like this in the normal game

[lucid crag]

Heretic Evil Twin

7/17: It's a fishbucket game and you're Summoner, what demon are you making?

[flat lintel]

Lil monsta

[sour harness]

Alhad seems fun

[flat lintel]

It does but its obvious imo

[sour harness]

True

all great choices

Actually summoned legion isn't quite as good in fish/whale bucket

[zenith lotus]

def making no dashi

[lucid crag]

Sidenote I'm the type of person who makes Leviathan lmao

[sly crescent]

ye i'm thinking LM/Imp or Leviathan/Riot

depends on player count and alive minion count

[fast anchor]

Depending on how the ST rules LM Summoner I’d consider it

[flat lintel]

Vortox is a bit overhyped imo. Info is probably not a huge focus in Fishbucket so…

[fast anchor]

Otherwise Zombuul, Fang Gu, Legion are all good choices

Lleech too

[flat lintel]

Zombuul actually being a good choice 😭

[flat lintel]

Don’t give people ideas

[fast anchor]

Nobody suspects the already-dead player as zombuul

because of the jinx

[lucid crag]

legion is nightmare pick in fishbucket lol

since legion don't learn eachother

[sour harness]

Vortox is stronger when it's not detected. In fishbucket there's gonna be a lot fewer info roles than SnV in most bags

I agree it doesn't go everywhere

[fast anchor]

Just talk to the person who dies at night

They’re 99% legion

[sly crescent]

with reasonable player count Zombuul will get figured out and can be back-engineered to this i feel like. you potentially lose some of the Summoner advantage

[sour harness]

But if there's only SOME info roles, it's strong

[sour harness]

The thing about summoned legion is that the main reason it's so strong is that everyone already has a coordinated bluff. In fishbucket this is notably not a problem

It's still strong tho

[sly crescent]

there's a beautiful tpi video of playing fishbucket where they have multiple bluff/claim issues 😆

[fast anchor]

In Fishbucket you can pull reasons to execute good players out of your butt more reasonably than other scripts

[sour harness]

Oh that's true

[fast anchor]

Like you’ve got the whole BMR suite to claim

[sly crescent]

3 oracle claims or something like that

[sour harness]

Incredible

[fast anchor]

since most Legion scripts don’t have many reasons for good players to want to get executed (the main exception being Lleech on many scripts)

[sour harness]

Say you were the lleech who got snake charmed lol

[fast anchor]

Speaking of, summoned Lleech in Fishbucket seems super strong

So many spots for an untraceable host

[sour harness]

Wait, what demons aren't made stronger by being summoned in fishbucket

Ojo is the only one I can think of

[sly crescent]

too ST-reliant to definitevely say weaker though; ST won't be oblivious to the facts of the game

[sharp violet]

My most recent Fishbucket game I was the Mez and we had a Widow, I ended up claiming Tea Lady either to prove myself by executing my neighbor the Lleech or to get the last good source of town’s info remaining (my neighbor the Town Crier) out

I won because town didn’t plan for 5 evils instead of the base 4 after the only good player left was the host

[fast anchor]

Pukka and ND come to mind? Their droison can be super traceable

[next marlin]

I got engineer banned from an ST's whalebucket games after I made a zombuul

It seemed like a good idea when I came up with it and I realized it probably wasn't about 30 seconds into day 1

[foggy grotto]

wasn’t fishbucket but i summoned a legion in a game for lols and ended up finishing knowing all legion

[sour harness]

Oh cool

[foggy grotto]

it’s easier than you think is all

[cursive cobalt]

Depends on what else is in play

[cursive cobalt]

7/18: Favorite wincon/losecon role?

[sour harness]

Goblin

It's so funny

And I like social roles when they work well

[fast anchor]

Ol' reliable Saint for me

[dense moat]

[sour harness]

Yeah I was about to say honorable mention to Saint and damsel lol

[dense moat]

Mutant but with Horrifying Consequences

[fast anchor]

Maybe Vortox

[sour harness]

Vortox is barely a wincon let's be real

I like the role but not for the wincon

[dense moat]

I do also like outing evil as Goblin, but it takes finesse to be sure & sometime hard to scriptbuild with

[cursive cobalt]

Organ Grinder has entered the chat

[sour harness]

Reasonable

[fast anchor]

vortox + heretic script has entered the chat

[zenith lotus]

does boomdandy technically count?

[cursive cobalt]

Not technically, but I suppose it’s close enough

[fast anchor]

It's pretty easy to lose the game as the Boomdandy after you proc

I wouldn't call it a wincon

[cursive cobalt]

It’s somewhat a wincon in that it can win you the game quickly

But it’s not a reliable one

[abstract cosmos]

when it hits, if that counts

[cursive cobalt]

It counts in my books

Again, not technically, but in practice it usually is

[foggy grotto]

slayer when they D1 snipe the demon

oh someone already said that

still so funny

[foggy grotto]

mfs forgetting to execute on final 4:

[sour harness]

It counts as much as boomdandy does really

And I'm fine with counting it

[sour harness]

Unfortunately I can confirm that this isn't technically a wincon because I've had a game where I did that and lost

I was on the block day 1 because I was being silly and claimed SW. I shot at random at someone I hadn't talked to and he died :)

[sly crescent]

Klutz

[foggy grotto]

BH turned slayer?

[sour harness]

Scarlet woman

This was TB

[cursive cobalt]

Klutz is great

It fits anywhere with decent death potential and it’s dynamic is very spicy

Essentially, evil wins if they convince one player they’re good rather than the half of the entire town

[sly crescent]

and it's also very satisfying to defuse yourself

[cursive cobalt]

Yep

That feeling when you safely hand off your launch codes at F3

Is unparalleled

[sharp violet]

[lucid crag]

Twin games that are good are pretty up there on my list

Since they can be very fun with the right people as twins

[vale oxide]

I actually don't really like it most of the time but it can be fun

especially when it's off script

[sharp violet]

Evil Twin in person

Online prob Klutz

[fast anchor]

19/7: Pick any two characters, and jinx them in the stupidest way possible.

[shrewd cloud]

If the Soldier babysits the Lil Monsta, the Lil Monsta dies.

(It’s a stupid jinx )

[sly crescent]

ooh i had similar idea long time ago - to run scripts like TB but with stupidest house rules.
Chef-Recluse: if Recluse sits next to an evil player, Chef learns a 0

Vortox-Mathematician: Mathematician always learns true information.
Minstrel-Tinker: Tinker is not drunk from Minstrel's ability

Atheist-Slayer: if Atheist is in play, Slayer may shoot the storyteller. if successful, all players must roast the storyteller with one joke and if majority of good players were deemed funny, good wins. otherwise evil wins

[fiery finch]

/ if the minstrel makes everyone drunk, the organ grinder keeps their ability but the minstrel keeps their eyes open during voting

[zenith lotus]

thats such a weird idea, who would've ever come up with that?

😉

[sour harness]

: the cerenovus can choose for players to be mad as the goblin

For an actual answer: : the oracle instead learns how many dead players are good

[zenith lotus]

/ : If Leviathan is in play & no execution occurs on day 5, good wins, unless there is a living sober and healthy mayor.

[fast anchor]

this one is funny don’t knock it 😭

[sour harness]

: the Drunk can think they are the Heretic

: the assassin cannot be drunk due to the minstrel's ability

: if there is no alive demon, the mayor is poisoned during the day

[fast anchor]

: Only one jinxed character can be in play. Evil players start knowing which player has which character.

[zenith lotus]

: If the lycanthrope picks the lleech host, the lycanthrope turns into the heretic.

[fast anchor]

off script heretic real!

[zenith lotus]

ikr

[sour harness]

: if both are in play, minions only learn their demons and demons only learn their minions (including the magician in each)

Actually gameplay wise that sounds fine, it just hard nerfs pg

[fast anchor]

mfw the magician just nerfs the PG

townsfolk ability 👍

[sour harness]

Yes 👍

: the jinxed characters cannot both be in play

: if a player in a revolutionary pair doomsays and their paired neighbor is alive, that neighbor must die

: the savant can learn 2 true statements

: if the huntsman creates a choirboy and no king exists, the huntsman becomes the king

[zenith lotus]

: If the sage dies due to legion, every single demon counts as having killed them.

[foggy grotto]

the empath must register as evil or drunk to the undertaker

[sour harness]

: the pithag can always create a village idiot. If they do so, every third village idiot is drunk

[sour harness]

: the jinxed characters cannot both be in play

[zenith lotus]

: The vortox must be made drunk by the sweetheart if both are in play.

[dense moat]

Demon stops being able to kill…

[zenith lotus]

yes ik

it happens all the time anyways 😉

[dense moat]

The Soldier does not register as a Townsfolk to the No Dashii

[sour harness]

Like the poison goes through?

[dense moat]

Yep, the next Townsfolk gets poisoned

[sour harness]

Well then

[dense moat]

Soldier is safe and No Dashii gets 2 poisons : )

That’s my stupid jinx

[sour harness]

Like it doesn't seem terrible but it's so unbelievably unnecessary

[fast anchor]

Not the worst idea ever if there's a PH in play

[zenith lotus]

yes ik

this is a reference to a chat in #sects-and-violets

[sour harness]

"must" tho

[dense moat]

True, but the question was what’s stupid jinxes you could make? So I’m fine having it both ways

[sour harness]

Oh I was agreeing with you lol

[dense moat]

Oh lol. Sry if I missed that

[sour harness]

Ur good

I don't think I was clear with my wording anyway

[zenith lotus]

: The Storyteller might register as a minion.

(this definitely fixes the problem)

[sour harness]

A genuine jinx would be that TC detects if a minion was nominated today

TPI give us traveler jinxes pls

[sour harness]

But this is hilarious

: the kazali chooses which minion ability the storyteller gets

[fast anchor]

Just put a PH in every game

I fail to see the problem

[sour harness]

true

[sly crescent]

these are all funny but i think we still missed many opportunities to correctly answer because "stupidest"

Slayer-Monk: if Fortune Teller is in play, slayer may only choose dead players and if they choose an evil player, theDrunk dies

[sour harness]

You're forgetting "if the Drunk is dead, the storyteller dies irl"

[sly crescent]

covered by the Monk-Atheist jinx

[sour harness]

Right my bad

Man, monk really has a lot of jinxes

They should rework the character so it doesn't need all those

[sly crescent]

i know right, it screws with so many perfectly fine characters like Riot and Leviathan

[sour harness]

Exactly

This guy gets it

[sly crescent]

Vortox-Monk: if Vortox is in play, "safe" means something else.

[sour harness]

: if vortox is in play, players chosen by the monk are the opposite of safe, so they die

[zenith lotus]

Shab-Hippo: If you want a hippopotamus for Christmas, the Shaboloth will eat it before youuuuuuu

[devout quail]

: If Pukka is in play, the Monk instead puts any players poisoned by the Pukka out of their misery.

[zenith lotus]

||(this is supposed to imply you were going to eat the hippopotamus)||

[sour harness]

+ / / / / / / / : much like demons, the atheist knows women aren't real, and therefore can't be in play with any of the other jinxed characters

[sly crescent]

🤯 you're telling me all the porn is fake?

[sour harness]

similarly the recluse may not talk to anyone with those roles

[sour harness]

I'M SORRY WHAT

[zenith lotus]

dont forget the grandmother

[sour harness]

-# actually dont answer that

[sly crescent]

i assume because of rule 34, but you just said women aren't real

[sour harness]

I KNEW I was missing one

[sour harness]

Well they aren't

[sly crescent]

the laws that force ppl to censor nipples are really, REALLY stupid then

[sour harness]

That's just the birds sent by the government to try to convince you that women are real

[karmic slate]

Hey folks remember that some of our members here on the server are of a younger audience so be mindful of comments and jokes you make

[sour harness]

This is a good point

Should I delete it

[karmic slate]

Can do it’s probably just easier 👍

[sly crescent]

this is me being mindful already, i'm not deleting shit 🙂

[sharp violet]

: If the Pit-Hag makes a Baron, up to 2 Townsfolk immediately become not-in-play Outsiders.

[fast anchor]

Do I need to ping Ginge or do we know what's happening here

[sharp violet]

it's a secret 🙂

[foggy grotto]

mods pin this

[fast anchor]

"mods" it's just paradox

[foggy grotto]

yeah

but it sounds better than “Paradox pin this”

[cursive cobalt]

: If the Courtier chooses to drunk the Lil' Monsta, they are immediately arrested and put into custody for distributing alcohol to a minor.

: If the Saint is executed and the Balloonist is in play, the game continues.

: If the Cerenovus makes a player mad that they are the Heretic, they are.

: If an alive good neighbor of a Tea Lady is ever effected by a Barista, they die, even if for some reason they could not.

: Outsiders who die during the day register as being executed to the Leviathan.

: Players killed by the Doomsayer register as being executed to the Saint.

: Things the Artist are mad about asking register as things the Mutant is mad about.

: Players killed by the Al-Hadikhia register as being executed to the Boomdandy.

[lucid crag]

If both legion and village idiot are in play, all townsfolk are village idiots

[cursive cobalt]

: If a Pacifist is made to act twice, executed good players must not die.

: The Yaggababble phrase causes extra deaths if said by the Gossip.

: If both of these roles are in play, there is no Red Herring, but the Fisherman starts evil.

[dense moat]

Yeah a red herring joke was inevitable

[lucid crag]

If the Boomdandy nominates the virgin, they are immediately executed

[next marlin]

I want the cerehag to be real now

BH-turned barista-doubled philo-alchemist-cere-alchemist-pithag

[dense moat]

The High Priestess must learn the Vizier on Night 1 ( they know the Demon 😉 )

If you can’t get the Demon’s name from the Viz…

That’s just a skill issue : )

If the Pacifist is used to support an evil bluff, the Pacifist registers as an Outsider to the Godfather

The Balloonist may add the Pacifist, but the Pacifist ability must help evil

(yes I did have to hit the “Outsider Pacifist” card)

The Dreamer must see the Vizier as Athiest/Vizier

[next marlin]

I recently had vizier/dreamer in the same game and my co-ST and I were trying to figure out what to show if the vizier was n1 sniped

(The script did not have Atheist or Alchemist)

[dense moat]

Show them as Dreamer/Vizier

[next marlin]

Incredible

We considered Drunk/Vizier

[dense moat]

Ben made the right call on that one NRB video. Viz was dreamed N1 and that was the result : )

All players learn if the Vizier babysits Lil Monsta (where would they hide the baby when everyone knows them?)

[sly crescent]

i think you win again

7/20 given an existing character, name or create a character that could be considered the antithesis of the first one
e.g.
-
- Life of the Party (Townsfolk) - info about you must imply you are good even if Vortox is in play

[abstract cosmos]

- Public Defender (townsfolk) - Each day, you may publicly choose a player. They can't die today

[sour harness]

(townsfolk): all townsfolk abilities yield true info, even if they are drunk or poisoned.

Once per game per player, players may publically choose that a player of the opposite alignment gets revived.

each night*, choose a player: they die

each night*, choose a player: if a Minion, they die, and they are the only player who can die tonight

(townsfolk?): each night*, choose a player: they can't die tonight. If you choose yourself this way, you become an out-of-play minion

[sly crescent]

so basically - is close enough to be anti

[sly crescent]

this is so cursed and i love thinking about how it might play out

[dense moat]

- If you die by execution, your team wins

[foggy grotto]

Whoever wins, wins & whoever loses, loses, even if you are dead.

[sly crescent]

does that prevent Politician turn?

[lean isle]

You might become alive at any time.

[zenith lotus]

turns into , and vice versa

[sour harness]

You'll never revive the demon so it's not stupid to reverse doomsay

Ignore demons that can die and be okay

They're jinxed like sw-alhad

[sly crescent]

it's not stupid, it's... cursed for what it can do, but individual choices are very interesting like you said it makes sense to revive a minion to prove yourself good and them evil, makes sense as evil to do the same and hope town believes the opposite alignment the other way around

[midnight bloom]

You start knowing what your ability is. (that's it)

[sly crescent]

that's Huntsman

[midnight bloom]

touché

[sly crescent]

or maybe Leviathan actually

aside from the win con, it very much feels like antithesis; everyone starts knowing what your ability is, and it's others that get to play around and try to solve mysterious info you do nothing

[lost thistle]

okay this one wins i think

[lost thistle]

- Each Night, learn a player who has done absolutely nothing helpful

each night, learn the player the storyteller thinks sucks at the game the most

[fast anchor]

Each night, learn who the Storyteller has a crush on

[next marlin]

"How can the HP get a 0?"

[dense hound]

- Bird Hater (Minion): If you make it to the final 3, choose a player publically, you learn everyone elses role.

[fast anchor]

(TF): Each day, publicly choose a player: if evil, they die that night.

[rose vault]

[sour harness]

: 2 players seated opposite each other are guaranteed to be opposite alignments. Both register falsely: once per game, they might not.

: if you are executed, everyone learns this. Until then, you may nominate twice per day and vote twice per nomination.

[next marlin]

Twins in a vortox game

[sour harness]

(outsider): you and a player of your alignment know each other. If you are executed, your team loses. Evil can't lose if you're both dead.