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tropic ocean
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@dusty rover I saw you made a homebrew so I made one of my own

dusty rover
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oooo

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I 💙

tropic ocean
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@lost aspen Since you are a fan of Travelers I wanted to know your feedback the ones on this script, if you're willing to give it.

tropic ocean
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@steel stratus same to you

tropic ocean
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@crimson matrix

crimson matrix
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Ah I've seen this

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What do you want feedback on?

tropic ocean
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Well, anything really

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But if I were to look at one thing

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Maybe the demons?

crimson matrix
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I don't remember the demons so I'll have to take a look

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Also if I remember correctly a lot of roles in the script are missing no?

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Unless I am confusing your script with another one

tropic ocean
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You might be confusing it

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Since there are 13 4 4 4

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T, O, M, D

crimson matrix
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Aight

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I really like thr cheater

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I am not that good at reviewing scripts lol

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So idk really have the words to give constructive feedback but it looks mostly good imo.

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What is reprived tho?

tropic ocean
crimson matrix
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Alright

tropic ocean
crimson matrix
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True

tropic ocean
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The closest you can get to an atheist game with an evil team in play

tropic ocean
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Since an evil Neutral is a little feels bad for evil

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Kinda like evil Politician

crimson matrix
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Yeah

tropic ocean
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Changed, now minion stays minion while reprieved

charred moth
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@tropic ocean could a cheater cheat themselves out of play?

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And the cheating accusation thing should probably be even if you are not in play

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So you can't just confirm a cheater in the game immediately by accusing someone

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Broken is super sad with a cheater

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Repriever feels very sad for evils... If the demon is chosen do they turn good and can kill themselves immediately

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It feels like both zombie and traitor doesn't really work well with broken

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But it's optional so eh...

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I think serial killer is very cool

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That, pierrot and vigi look lik3 to coolest Tf on the script

tropic ocean
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So a reprieved demon that self kills loses with evil!

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formal oysterBOT
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Gave +1 Thanks to @charred moth

dusty rover
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this looks cool!

tropic ocean
formal oysterBOT
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Gave +1 Thanks to @tulip ridge

tropic ocean
dusty rover
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I feel all these are um... references

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that I dont get

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cause I never played this game

tropic ocean
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Minion, Underling, VIP, etc. aren't even that, they reference a card game I made

dusty rover
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Ah/

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“I'm a fan of money... And they were hiring... And I kinda already wanted to kill that guy anyway...”

Best flavor text

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“AHHH, I AM BEING REPEATEDLY STABBED, TELL MY WIFE, KIDS, COUSINS, EMPLOYERS, ACCOUNTANTS, DEBTORS, ACQUAINTANCES, AND LOCAL HOMELESS POPULATION I LOVE THEM!”

This is a close #2 lol

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For arsonist when it says "Chosen Minion loses ability" do they mean minion the category or minion the role

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it took me 10 years to figure out being reprived meant being hit by the repriver

tropic ocean
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Lol

tropic ocean
dusty rover
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cool

charred moth
charred moth
tropic ocean
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(related to outsiders/travelers)

charred moth
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I the almanac

tropic ocean
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How should I write it?

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Basically, if repriever chooses a good player, that player becomes mad as underling until repriever/that player die

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And if an evil player is chosen they are additionally told 'they are good'

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Until repriever/that player die

charred moth
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Bur alignment changes normally stay after ability losses

tropic ocean
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Right

tropic ocean
charred moth
tropic ocean
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K

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I'll still try to make it's ability smoother to understand

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@charred moth Do you think any of the outsiders are too strong/weak

charred moth
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I like jester and obsessed... Feel like the other 2 are more swing...

tropic ocean
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Quisling and Neutral?

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I was thinking Neutral needing to survive would make it less swingy

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since it's got the same function as politician, but it won't use it's ghost vote to screw town

charred moth
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Neutral doesn't

tropic ocean
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Neutral has to survive

charred moth
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And noone has incentive to kill them except on like day 1 or 2

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So neutral, the demon and a minion could be in final 3... And the neutral then basically chooses who wins...

tropic ocean
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that's how politician would work too tho

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In final 3

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juggernaut/infected also might kill it

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Since killing outsiders help their win condition

tropic ocean
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That was my take

charred moth
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I think it's like poli but worse... It depends so much on the player... And even someone who outs neutral doesn't really do much...

tropic ocean
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It has the "Survivor Effect"

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And I can see how that might not be the best

charred moth
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Problem is that it isn't forced into anything

charred moth
charred moth
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They are incentiveised to play for evil

tropic ocean
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Yeah

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Poli has to keep playing for evil to be "most responsible"

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And pyro becomes evil in final 3

charred moth
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Yeah

tropic ocean
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Well, do you have ideas that could help make Neutral make it's choice

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Earlier

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Rather than later?

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I could imagine alignment change upon death, but I don't want it too close to jester

tropic ocean
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Where they choose a player and the demon learns their character

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But I couldn't make that in a way that would not call for execution D1

charred moth
tropic ocean
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Which one?

charred moth
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Neutral

tropic ocean
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The poli neutral or the info neutral

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Oh I get it

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So if in final 3 it noms a minion, it can only win with good

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If you are alive when the game ends, you win regardless of alignment, evil knows who you are, you lose your ability if you nominate an evil player

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Maybe it must nominate a living player every day?

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Or something

charred moth
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Thats to harsh

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And forces it to play for goof

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And also semi outs it

tropic ocean
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True

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It should have reason to be a silent outsider, but not a 100% chance to play evil

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Maybe remove the evil knows who you are part

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And change it with something else

charred moth
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Change you learn on assassin --> you know?

tropic ocean
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Oh good shout

charred moth
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Because jester exists

tropic ocean
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Wait say that again

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Do you mean Bodyguard?

charred moth
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No jester

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Jester can turn original target evil

tropic ocean
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Oh your saying since assassin target could turn evil

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It should have a "you know"

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So it can change

charred moth
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Yeah

tropic ocean
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You are given a good target, if they are executed, your team wins, if your target dies at night you become a Looter [+ The Bodyguard]

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You know a good target, if they are executed, your team wins, if your target dies at night you become a Looter [+ The Bodyguard]

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Does that work?

charred moth
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Yup

tropic ocean
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For bodyguard it's: You start knowing the role of the Assassins target or if there is none

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Should that stay as is?

charred moth
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I think just starting is okay...

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Since jester will probably die quite late anyway

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And we don't want to make the minion useless

tropic ocean
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True

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Maybe bodyguard could learn if the target changed

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But not the role it changed to

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You start knowing the role of the Assassins target or if there is none, you learn if the target changed

tropic ocean
charred moth
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By outsider count

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Since no other outsiders are hidden

tropic ocean
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True, a confirmed outsider is a problem

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(i mean obsessed can be confirmed but at the cost of two dead)

charred moth
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Precisely

tropic ocean
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You lose your ability if you nominate?

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Period

charred moth
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I think if you nominate evil

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To make it more of a risk to yoi

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And allow you to play for evil more if you want

tropic ocean
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Sure, I'll make it disabled if they nom evil

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...

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If you are alive when the game ends, you win regardless of alignment, evil knows who you are, you lose your ability if you nominate an evil player

charred moth
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Looks good

tropic ocean
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Sweet

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Also you had concerns about Quisling right?

charred moth
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Outsider count is still a problem... But...

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Oh quisling is hidden

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Then it might work

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For outsider count

tropic ocean
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What was the outsider count problem?

charred moth
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Super confirmable

tropic ocean
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Not enough modification?

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outsiders were too confirmable

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Ah

charred moth
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Not enough minus outsiders

tropic ocean
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I see

charred moth
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/ not enough hidden outsiders

charred moth
tropic ocean
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Quisling should usually be hidden

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But if it plays open

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It's kind of confirmable

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It might be too easy for survivalist to live

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If I made that less easy, it would make it better for Quisling to hide

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Survivalist: Each night choose a living player, different than the last, if anyone chooses you they'll target them instead, unless it's themself

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It's already a bit too strong

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Maybe...

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Survivalist: Each night choose a living player, different than the last, if anyone chooses you they'll target them instead, unless the chosen player is evil

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That should be marginally more fair

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Well, still not quite

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When it dies it will say "the person I chose is evil!"

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With the lack of poison on the script, it's too strong

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ok two ideas

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One, serial killer can register as an evil minion

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Because that would just make sense

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Two, maybe survivalist also fails if targeting outsiders?

tropic ocean
tropic ocean
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Quisling: Turns evil if the Survivalist dies, even while dead [+ The Survivalist]

charred moth
tropic ocean
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I think these work to help make quisling more of a hidden outsider

charred moth
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Since they actually have to die as well

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It's like a ravenkeep

tropic ocean
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Yeah

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But arsonist and innocent are also like ravenkeep

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To an extent

charred moth
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Yup

tropic ocean
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Arsonist stops minions, innocent finds demon type, survivalist finds all evils?

charred moth
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They are

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Feels a bit bad...

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Maybe just state that it can only redirect a kill once

tropic ocean
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That's why I was thinking survivalist only working on townsfolk would be good

charred moth
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Feels to baf

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At wlast let it work on outsiders as well

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To not make it to bad...

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For the playing vs the bluffing

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Someone bluffing gains a lot otherwise

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And they will have a hard time choosing a Tf if only half the grim are ones

tropic ocean
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True

tropic ocean
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I still feel a pinch of droison would make it better

charred moth
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Also removes a lot

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Just let it have a harder time redirecting kills

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It's way more meh to bluff otherwise

tropic ocean
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right

charred moth
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Not being able to register as evil...

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Felt kinda eh...

tropic ocean
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Wdym?

charred moth
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Someone choosing someone else...

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Survivalist chooses the zombie

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So someone checks them will see the zombie registering

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Will see the zombie instead*

tropic ocean
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Oh

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So basically you want survivalist to be able to register evil if it chooses evil?

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Instead of having no effect when it chooses evil?

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Survivalist: Each night choose a living player, different than the last, if the chosen player is a minion, anyone who chooses you tonight will target them instead

tropic ocean
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(It could also redirect to S-K since it registers as a minion)

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This would make Survivalist much stronger, but much less likely to trigger without evidence of a person being a minion

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It also stops it from chaining with an innocent/arsonist

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To get one of them killed early

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Survivalist and Arsonist might look strong, but at the end of the day they only hurt minions

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On this script other than no death nights not much hurts the demon

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Oh and vigilante

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Vigilante could just shoot the demon lol

charred moth
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I liked it brign able to register as whatever

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As it did earlier

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Sorry if it didn't come across correctly

tropic ocean
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If it chooses a minion the surv will look like an evil minion

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If it doesn't

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It will look like a good townsfolk

charred moth
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But it wont register as whatevrr

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And not as the demon either

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That was what looked so fun about it

tropic ocean
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Oh

charred moth
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The mess it could create

tropic ocean
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Wait which one did you like best then?

charred moth
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And how there could just appear pings on then

charred moth
tropic ocean
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This? Survivalist: Each night choose a living player, different than the last, if anyone chooses you they'll target them instead, unless it's themself

charred moth
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Yeaj

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It's a bit bad with kills

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But otherwise really cool

tropic ocean
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Oh ok

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The main problem is it's too hard to kill

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In this current state

charred moth
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I agree

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So just let it redirect only one kill

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Perhaps

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Or make only kills not be ably or hit the evil team

tropic ocean
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Ok, how do I word this.... Hold on a sec

charred moth
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Innocent should be below vigi in night order as well

tropic ocean
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Survivalist: Each night choose a living player, different than the last, if anyone chooses you they'll target them instead, chosen evil players can't be killed by the demon

tropic ocean
charred moth
tropic ocean
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Oh I think it was because innocent was originally "if killed by demon"

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But I changed that

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Lol

charred moth
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Also

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Wip dying by vigi interaction?

tropic ocean
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?

charred moth
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If the demon killed earlier

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Who would die?

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Only wip?

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The demon kikl+ wip

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But vigi survives...

tropic ocean
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Wut?

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What is wip

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Work in progress?

charred moth
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Vip*

tropic ocean
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Ooooooooh

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Ok if Vigi shoots VIP, and demon killed someone else earlier in night, only VIP dies, Vigi survives because only VIP can die

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(wastes the vigi shot but semi confirms the VIP)

tropic ocean
charred moth
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Doesn't super much

tropic ocean
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Rip ok

charred moth
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If there is a pierrot claim

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But I agree

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But lwta say the arsonists was killed first?

tropic ocean
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Ah true

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that is a good point

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How should the night order go

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Demons
Vigi
VIP
Arso
Innocent?

charred moth
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Remove vip from night order?

charred moth
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And just revive people who died before vip

tropic ocean
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I think VIP should stay in night order since it seems like it could be missed easy otherwise

tropic ocean
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If vigi shoots the same night VIP dies the shot is wasted

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(unless they shot VIP on purpose lol)

charred moth
tropic ocean
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When it comes to reminder tokens, the V.I.P. death token says R.I.P.

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comedic genius, I know

charred moth
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Haha

tropic ocean
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I made Serial Killer register as an evil minion

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And was considering making Jester do the same

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But wasn't sure about it

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Registering evil effects (Survivalist, Vigilante~~, and Neutral~~)

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Registering as a minion effects (Arsonist and Underling)

tropic ocean
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If jester registers evil, a vigi can shoot it without negative consequence and a surv can make it demon immune tonight

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(not too bad, since surv must change picks each night)

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If jester registers minion, an arso can erase its negative traits and underling would ping it as a minion

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sure why not

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I'll make Jester look like an evil minion too

charred moth
charred moth
charred moth
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It also makes it a better bluff

tropic ocean
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I reworded all the abilities to be more in line with clocktower's wording

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using the correct punctuation for Each night*, choose a player (not yourself):

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Etc.

dusty rover
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make sure U publish the new one

tropic ocean
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I think it's published

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It's the same link

tropic ocean
dusty rover
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Yes

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Its updated

tropic ocean
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Sweet

tropic ocean
dusty rover
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Probably

tropic ocean
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(whenever I rise in the queue)

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Coolio

dusty rover
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yeah basically 99% yes

tropic ocean
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@lost aspen I wanted to know if the travelers in this script are good enough for the traveler!

lost aspen
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I will look later

tropic ocean
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Gave +1 Thanks to @lost aspen

tropic ocean
tropic ocean
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Trouble Brewing In Terrorist Town (Town of Terror)

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Considering calling the script Town of Terror

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Since the script is only very loosely based on TTT

tropic ocean
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Test

dusty rover
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Hombrew script: Test.

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Yes.