Heathens vs Easter

[tough bone]

Heathens vs Easter v 3.0

A script with a single homebrew character. It’s a bit of a doozy.

Pagan (Townsfolk): If a Heretic is in-play, good Townsfolk become Pagans and learn the evil players and their characters.[+Heretic or -1 Outsider]

How to run: While setting up the game, before putting tokens in the bag, check if you have included a Heretic

If you have not included a Heretic yet, either:

• Add the Heretic token to the bag, removing a Townsfolk token, or
• Remove an Outsider token (for the Pagan’s -1 Outsider modifier).

If both Pagan and Heretic are in-play, then the Pagan ability triggers. On the first night, after the evil team get their information/act, wake all the good Townsfolk in the game up together. Point to each evil player in turn, showing them the character token for each. Then, inform them they have all become Pagans.

When running online, you would basically send each Townsfolk in the game a message that looks like this:

Jack, Grey, Tom, Jane and Maddie are Pagans
Annie is the No Dashii
Rodger is the Cerenovus
Jean is the evil Nightwatchman

If the Pagan is in play, but the Heretic is not in play, nothing happens. Do not wake the Pagan up. The same applies if the starting Pagan is drunk or poisoned.

More Info

• If the Pagan is in-play, the good team know pretty much everything. They know the evil players & their characters. However, they must keep this information a secret. If the evil team realise what is happening, the Demon can kill themselves in the night and win (due to the Heretic ability).
• If the Pagan ability activates, good Townsfolk become Pagans. They therefore lose their previous character abilities.
• A Pagan can be in play without a Heretic, or a Heretic can be in play without a Pagan.
• Only good Townsfolk become Pagans. The Drunk, Marionette, Lunatic, Damsel, Heretic, Mutant & Bounty-Hunter-turned-evil Townsfolk do not.
• The Pagan either guarantees that a Heretic is in the game, or takes away an Outsider.

Clarification: Technically there should be a jinx between Pagan and Marionette matching the jinx between Marionette and Ballonist, Huntsman etc. The Huntsman x Marionette jinx also currently has a weird error. If you’re trying this script, you can probably figure it out.

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[brisk monolith]

nvm didn't read

[brisk monolith]

If an evil cannibal ate a pagan would they learn who the evil team is

[tough bone]

That’s pretty funny

But I don’t think so. ‘Good Townsfolk become Pagans and learn the evil players & their characters’

Evil Cannibal isn’t a good Townsfolk, so would learn nothing

You probably want to kill that Cannibal pretty quick, though

Because they are going to keep not waking up after eating characters

[brisk monolith]

Yeah they'd be able to sus out a pagan game quickly

[lofty yarrow]

this script looks incredibly fun

[tough bone]

Thanks!

[brisk monolith]

Hang on, if it's a LM game then the demon can't kill themself, so what is stopping the pagans from just outing themselves

[next patio]

Townsfolk don't know it's a LM game (Scarlet Woman and Marionette are quiet)

And a ST can run it so that LM will kill themselves if Pagans out/if minions request so

[tough bone]

No need - the Minions can just choose to give LM to a dead player

[lofty yarrow]

wow that’s smart

[tough bone]

^

[brisk monolith]

oh

facts

[terse phoenix]

Minions can't kill the baby, but they can throw it off a cliff

[next patio]

Ran this in person today

No pagan, but there was a heretic in play

Went pretty well!

[tough bone]

Awesome!

[next patio]

This was the grim

[placid fog]

I do think this script looks cool

[placid fog]

So imma run a event of STing it

[lofty yarrow]

can you ping me when you do

i love this script personally

[placid fog]

I tried to yesterday, trying again today in 3 hours from now

[lofty yarrow]

i’ll try to join

[pure rivet]

I was getting ready to set up an event for this script, when I noticed something that should probably be addressed:
There's nothing about the Pagan's ability that says all Pagans are supposed to know each other. Obviously they should know each other given the example cases given, but that's not actually part of the character text.
Legion doesn't need that explicit text because Legion registers as minions and wakes together for minion info anyway so know each other by default, but there's no reason the same would be true for Pagan.

I think all that needs to be changed in the character text is this:

If a Heretic is in-play, good Townsfolk become Pagans, know each other, and learn the evil players and their characters.[+Heretic or -1 Outsider]

[tough bone]

You could be right. An alternative fix would probably be:

If a Heretic is in-play, good Townsfolk become Pagans & wake together to learn the evil players & their characters. [+Heretic or -1 Outsider]

[tough bone]

The tricky part is the character limit. That puts it at 141 - the longest any official characters get seems to cap out at around 135

[pure rivet]

Yeah, that makes sense. It's really hard to be both specific and consise. AFAIK, that is the same problem TPI have with the Lil Monsta

[lucid nimbus]

I try to stick with 135 or under if possible. If I can push it to 125, I probably will.

[exotic pulsar]

Note to self: Run later

[brisk monolith]

we played this in-person today!

was a very good game

I was the heretic

[tough bone]

Awesome!

Was there a Pagan in play?

[distant glade]

This script looks so fun! I'd run it if I were a more experienced ST, but for now I'll just lurk around and hope I can catch someone else running it :D

[brisk monolith]

Yeah there was were 6 pagans in a 9 player game, and me

Only 1 of them outed anything to me so I was a bit confused the whole game

[brisk monolith]

Good ended up winning but it was very shaky

[rocky cradle]

This seems so awesome - it's like a reverse legion game

[light mantle]

This is sweet

[next patio]

@ Zets - now that BotC scripts supports homebrew characters, can you upload this there?

[midnight lance]

Damn really? /j

[tough bone]

Hey I totally could

Good idea

[dense torrent]

I ended up making a set of tokens for this script, I’m going to run it for my group online soon and then hopefully at the next convention on the next few weeks subject them to it there!

[tough bone]

Gosh

That is so cool

[silent bone]

Good legion rules

[next patio]

I'm thinking of making a teensy script with pagan and leviathan on it

With the homebrew rule "After day 5, the Leviathan may choose for good to win instead"

[willow cliff]

Imagine a script with Pagan and Atheist

I think it would need a jinx like "if the storyteller is executed, the heretic loses their ability"

but it could be really silly

[midnight lance]

I mean

Don't think Atheist would need jinxes

A good storyteller would just do that without them

[willow cliff]

well the point would be so that the win conditions are clear

sure, the storyteller in an atheist game could arbitrarily decide to invert the win condition and make good loose when they get executed, but that wouldn't be very fun unless it was communicated to the town first

Oh i made a mistake

the jinx would be "if there is no atheist in play and the storyteller is executed, the heretic loses their ability"

The point is so that the Pagans don't instantly notice there is no atheist and decide to execute the storyteller to 'lose' the game and win with heretic

Although upon furthur thought, if an evil player always bluffs atheist, then the pagans wouldn't know if the atheist is real or not

[empty linden]

All my friends are heathens take it slow

[covert river]

Would you like this pinned?

[tough bone]

That would be great, thank you!

[silent bone]

In this example, how does this all work with the no dashii? Do the demon’s neighbors not become pagans? Or do they learn the wrong evil team and almost certainly give up the ruse?

[tough bone]

The Demon’s neighbours still become Pagans, unless the starting Pagan is the No Dashii’s neighbour, in which case the Pagan ability does not activate

[timid veldt]

Hello Peeps, the last few weeks im busy creating fancy versions of scripts I like. So here you all go 🙂
Its based on the current 3.0 version! 😄 Enjoy and thanks Zets for creating this wacky script!

[tough bone]

Awesome!

[pallid siren]

@tough bone do you have a new link for the pagan icon? I tried building the script in the script tool for my homebrew repository, and the image link appears to be broken

[robust girder]

:O

[hidden dirge]

As Easter is coming up, I remembered about this incredibly fun script again and was sad to discover the Bloodstar links for it does not work anymore. With the Bloodstar also about to be removed, wanted to preserve an easy-to-share link somehow for my own purposes and uploaded it to the official script tool. Link here: Heathens vs Easter Pagan icon by Jazck from Deicide on Easter uploaded to ImgBB by me. If Zets provides his original Pagan icon, happy to update with that version. I took the liberty of adding a Pagan/Marionette jinx per Zets' write-up and preserved the old Baron/Heretic jinx in a Bootlegger rule since I think the script might break a bit with the new one.