Music Discussion

[hard zealot]

i just woke up

what daw you usin m8

[lavish nest]

good start

id recommend more variation with past motifs as it can get quite repetitive with the slower tempo
sound quality is ofc one thing but thats to do with getting a bigger sound / instrument library which is done over time so dw too much about that just yet
i also recommend looking a bit into mixing
you are doing some very heavy panning with instruments which is good as it adds width, but you are panning incorrectly at times, for example the lower / bass instruments are sometimes panned left - this tends to sound unpleasent for the ear as a waveform of a low note is longer and bigger and thus more present compared to higher ones
this essentially makes other sounds get drowned out in the left ear
id recommend making bass's central for the most part
there are genre specific moments where that rule is broken but yeah

other than that keep experimenting and practicing - thats the best way to improve!

[hard zealot]

i'd lowkey post something like this but 🤑

i'm still tired

[fiery pasture]

its goddamn bandlab im not ready for lmms yet

[fiery pasture]

yaaay :DDD

[fiery pasture]

sans undertale

[hard zealot]

bandla

🤑

dw i used to use bandlab as well

🤑

i wanna continue this so bad

but i need a person (preferrably a woman) who can write in japanese and sing in japanese

😭

[lavish nest]

I'm interested

You're entering the realm of music I'm interested in making but haven't had the time to try

However
What is that woodwind sound
And the other ear candy sound at the start

I want those 🗣️

[hard zealot]

if you mean the little thinglies

wait i'm not sure wdym by ear cand

the shit playing the chords

or the shit playing the broken chords 😭

[lavish nest]

Broken

[hard zealot]

uhh lemme check the file

[hard zealot]

this is legit one of my best drum rhythms ngl

🤑

[fiery pasture]

i mean you can use the vsynth software

[hard zealot]

i leaned in a bit more on the jpop sound since i did base this off an anime i watched recently

[hard zealot]

i need to write in japanese

i'm not japanese

[fiery pasture]

well that stinks

[hard zealot]

i have connections anyway

@lavish nest first broken chord uses SGM bottle blow SGM vibraphone (w/ reverb) and sine wave

[lavish nest]

sgm?

[hard zealot]

the second ear candy is just square wave and SGM orchestra pizzicato layered

yeah sgm soundfont

[lavish nest]

ooo slide link in dms

i need more soundfonts

[hard zealot]

specifically the SGM nice guitars and bass

[lavish nest]

yeah

[hard zealot]

i don't have the link anymore but i have the files

[lavish nest]

if youre able to send it id be very happy

[hard zealot]

damnit

its like 300mb lmao

can't send

[lavish nest]

ah fair

sgm sound font ill find it tysm

[hard zealot]

here's the file name though

SGM-v2.01-NicePianosGuitarsBass-V1.2

playing jazz?

[lavish nest]

nice

[hard zealot]

i'd recommend you start learning your scales

and like, learn jazz standards and perform them too

[ashen ginkgo]

I know most if not all of them

I've been playing for 4 years dude

[hard zealot]

but can you improvise using those scales

[ashen ginkgo]

Ah probably not

[lavish nest]

do you jus know standard scales or also other modal scales

[hard zealot]

playing jazz still needs improv, ESPECIALLY if you're gonna be doing a solo

[ashen ginkgo]

Modal uhhh no

Standard oni

[hard zealot]

modal scales are pretty essential

esp for stuff like modal jazz iirc

[ashen ginkgo]

Can tell

I'll just stay with normal band for now then

[hard zealot]

you can learn all of it slow and steady

[lavish nest]

jazz does change up scales sometimes
common example is pretty much blues and melodic varients of minor keys
but they are simple enough to learn

im not a performer but you kinda need to understand rules of what makes music sound good melodically and harmonically to improvise well
in terms of performing jazz in general its kinda learning like normal just more complex harmony

[hard zealot]

blues 🤑

mhm

[ashen ginkgo]

It's not really a must for me tho

I have alot of shit to do

[hard zealot]

i understand that

[ashen ginkgo]

Tomorrow I got Additional Math exam

[lavish nest]

gl

[ashen ginkgo]

Thx

I want ma A

[lavish nest]

yes twin

ive started working on the outro of this god forsaken 5 minute track

i just want to move on to mxiing it im so tired

[ashen ginkgo]

Differentiation is not bad

[ashen ginkgo]

Low-key when tracks get to that point I'll just abandon them

Or pull the most insane shit ever

[lavish nest]

no no no no no ! ! ! ! !

dont abandon tracks due to demotivation

or youll never improve

[hard zealot]

is this for real money mouth

[hard zealot]

^^

[lavish nest]

part of improving is learning to find dicipline in your creations or finding new motivation in what you make

[lavish nest]

whats this

[hard zealot]

ambience ig

i sampled a friend's laptop fan

[lavish nest]

ah nice

ive started working on the outro melody

[hard zealot]

i made some frequencies louder so uhh

[ashen ginkgo]

Disagree, a huge problem I had back in the day was finishing tracks, so I would spend like weeks on a tracks, which isn't alot but I wanna get stuff done fast and sometimes I would just not have any ideas

[hard zealot]

it plays an I-bIImaj7b5 progression

[ashen ginkgo]

I don't really scrap stuff anymore but like before last year may I did

[lavish nest]

you want to go into the music industry right inverse

[ashen ginkgo]

Maybbeee idk

[hard zealot]

ooohhh

[lavish nest]

well maybe is enough

[hard zealot]

i hear some spice chords in the piano

[ashen ginkgo]

I might take the JC route

[hard zealot]

do you do tritone subs lol

[lavish nest]

part of working in any creative field is learning how to fight through our biggest enemy
writers block
which is why learning to compose even while in the middle of that is so important

in the end we live in a world where we need the bag 🤑 but we cant let writers block slow us down

• its within writers block u can get some of your best ideas because you are forced to stop thinking so much about everything

[lavish nest]

twin i know theory but still dont use it
so myabe 😭

[hard zealot]

plss use theory for spice chords

🙏

like this

[lavish nest]

i kinda dont need to too much
immore so building my own theory to make chords sound the way i like them to sound

[hard zealot]

it ain't too spicy since the piano has to take the backseat for solos

[lavish nest]

i find if i use theory too much it personally makes my stuff sound too bland even if i am getting the spicy elements

which is why theory ppl tend to dislike my stuff - experimental ppl like my stuff

[hard zealot]

just use theory in moderation

i don't use theory that much either

[lavish nest]

oh i think i do it naturally like that yeah

[hard zealot]

it's all shit i learned from absorbing all that jazz m8

[lavish nest]

knowledge is in the back of my mind afterall

[hard zealot]

but yeah i still use theory when i'm a bit lost or i wanna do something spicy

[ashen ginkgo]

Well in an ideal world, I would definitely choose music but I have this bad feeling that it's not gonna work out

[lavish nest]

ah i see

[ashen ginkgo]

Im mostly scared of it as a job because what if I don't earn enough and barely scrape by

And I start hating it

[lavish nest]

ngl with the track im working on ppl really seem to like this part
so ill probs advertise this section and the final drop

[lavish nest]

valid fears i share them

[hard zealot]

i'm kinda half half on being theory people and experimental people
i think its because what you do kind of goes against what my brain thinks as harmonically "correct"

[lavish nest]

im just doing everything i can to make sure i get a good ending lmao

yeah i love chromatics

i will fight

[hard zealot]

my entire ahh career is built on progressions i've picked up over the years

[lavish nest]

NO ONE TAKEZ AWAY MY CHROMAYTCIS

[hard zealot]

no its not the chromatics

[lavish nest]

LMAO

good

[hard zealot]

its just certain chord choices that don't exactly feel right

[lavish nest]

oh wait do you use progression uhhh like presets? if ykwim 😭

[hard zealot]

i absolutely love spicy chords, its just that sometimes it doesn't hit right 🤷

[hard zealot]

no

by progressions i've picked up over the years

[lavish nest]

oh yeah thats just my chord skills slacking is all

[hard zealot]

its all the harmonic language i've unconciously absorbed by listening to music

[lavish nest]

remember im still really new to music even tho im in uni

[hard zealot]

and mixing up that knowledge

[lavish nest]

the fact im in uni is insane

[hard zealot]

so basically, my whole ahh career is built on progressions i've picked up over the years thu listening and learning

i think i do have my cliches from time to time lol

[ashen ginkgo]

Well what I plan to do is once I get a good paying job somewhere in stem, since I do like the subjects there, I will start saving up alot of money and eventually when I get burnt out from it, I quit and I do music

[hard zealot]

wait ludo have you listened to this yet

because i don't remember showing it to you

[ashen ginkgo]

At that point I have degree to fall back on

[hard zealot]

ah okay oaky

the jorn's memory is a little wonky

[lavish nest]

keep doing it as a side if anything
Creative let outs are important for people

[lavish nest]

you do realise this is my fav song from you

[hard zealot]

^^

[ashen ginkgo]

For sure

[hard zealot]

i've thought of something similair too, get an IT job and have music as a side hobby

[lavish nest]

im just gambling

im getting music as my main job

i want to be a composer for games

[hard zealot]

the jorn at her max

[lavish nest]

and im not stopping till i am

[ashen ginkgo]

Plus my extremely conservative parents only insist on one job for me

[lavish nest]

i love how our melody writings can get similar at times you can especially hear it in the square within the first minute

[ashen ginkgo]

So like if I'm not financially independent and I take that route they may or may not disown me

[hard zealot]

its called repetition haha

[lavish nest]

understandable fear

[hard zealot]

i love to use repetition to have a sort of clear motif for different parts

[lavish nest]

not the repetition

like the way the melody flows with mini runs

[hard zealot]

oo?

ah

[lavish nest]

we both do that

[ashen ginkgo]

I love conservative parents who indoctrinate children into religion!!

[lavish nest]

literally this example LMAO

[hard zealot]

the way the melody flows

i've definitely got my cliches

just because of that haha

😭

[lavish nest]

lmfao fair

[hard zealot]

i've said multiple times now i think

this is my most harmonically dense piece EVER

[lavish nest]

for sure

and genre dense

which is why i like it lmao

also idk why

but i have a really natural talent for writing breakdowns

like yk the ones where it kinda pops off

those are the ones im good at

and idk why but i love writinga nd listening to them

[hard zealot]

ah

must be something you just really like

[lavish nest]

its my groove or some shi lmao

[hard zealot]

i believe if you love listening to something you end up loving writing it

[lavish nest]

https://open.spotify.com/track/3HepFMFCsBYXwdxThgV7uf?si=e791630a8ff84cd7

go to 28 seconds

and just fall into

the peak

of 10/10 breakdown

the fking bass line bro

the bass line

while the vocal goes crazy above

im gonna try message memodemo soon im gonna

be so scared

i dont wanna seem parasocial but like IM SUCH A BIG FAN SO I WILL SEEM IT 😭

[hard zealot]

@lavish nest when i say harmonically dense, i mean it
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1B-0bFf5jB3EVCZxQ3E4Xqe4qlUb0CEbiPRqLYjpdmjA/edit?usp=sharing

[lavish nest]

holy fk

[hard zealot]

if the chord writing is so off well hhehehehe

i never really properly learned chord naming

[lavish nest]

oh yeah youll also a lot of inspiration in terms of melody writing
i really enjoy how memodemo writes melodies

[wind temple]

what the fuck is this dude

[lavish nest]

LMAO

[hard zealot]

5:46 has to be one of my favorite drops

[wind temple]

the name alone is intimidating

[hard zealot]

its based off dream of clarity's drop at the start

[lavish nest]

speaking of dream

[hard zealot]

yeah i can hear it lol

[lavish nest]

fish and jor and inversed if youre still there

[wind temple]

Heat Death of the Universe Chords

[hard zealot]

chords for one of my shit

[ashen ginkgo]

I haven't made music in a mon

[lavish nest]

i want you guys to listen to my fav album fr just simply cuz its a great experience

[ashen ginkgo]

Month

[wind temple]

wait is centuria the name of your song

[lavish nest]

https://open.spotify.com/album/78GoB2LqImX2moZ7OSYWbC?si=MuK-2H8NS8W2tDM1tdCLmQ

hop on peak chat

[hard zealot]

F#maj7no3add(#9, #11) is a really dense chord

[hard zealot]

i've been meaning to listen to this for a while now

never got the chance

onefin is really the goat though ngl :money

[lavish nest]

ong bro

[hard zealot]

Dmaj7, Badd#4, Gmaj7, F#m7, Bm7, A#7sus4, A#7
D#maj7add11no3, G13no3, F#maj7no3add(#9, #11), Fm7

[lavish nest]

the fact that 6 of the tracks here are 10/10 for me is insane since i have high standards for a 10/10

[hard zealot]

i love how simple these chords are and i just hit yall with D#maj7add11no3 and F#maj7no3add#9, #11

😭

[lavish nest]

LMAO

[hard zealot]

LMAO THE TINY Fm7 RIGHT AFTER

[lavish nest]

literally

my chords are probably harmonically complex but like

idk

i justr

move notes around

roughly knowing how i want it to sound

[hard zealot]

move notes around tastes better than key

its lowkey fr that process ngl

[lavish nest]

nah cuz like

you can accidentally

move it to the wrong place

and boom

way better chord

inspiration + 1

[ashen ginkgo]

I normally don't give a shit about chords

[lavish nest]

WHY

😦

😦

😦

[ashen ginkgo]

I do the melody and bassline first

And then I'll add chords with accompanies

[lavish nest]

interesting
both of those specifically depend on the chords

[ashen ginkgo]

Normally when I make music I already have a clear vision of what I wanna make

[lavish nest]

fair

[ashen ginkgo]

So idk

[hard zealot]

actually

i have this sort of approach

BUT, its always melody first

then chords

[lavish nest]

i do chords or drums first

or effects...

[hard zealot]

i don't do chords first because when you have a melody already you can JAZZ the fuck out

[ashen ginkgo]

Solemn Symphony was actually started with instrumentation and melody, I didnt add chords until like the orchestral part

[wind temple]

what even is this chord comprised of
F# C# E A C

[hard zealot]

i think idf remember

[wind temple]

genuinely had to think for like 20 seconds

[ashen ginkgo]

Btw @lavish nest have u heard my Ng frontpaged song

[lavish nest]

fear

[ashen ginkgo]

I don't remember if I told u

[lavish nest]

yh

[wind temple]

honestly bro i am not consistent with how i approach making songs

[ashen ginkgo]

Oh ok, did u give any feedback

I forgot

[ashen ginkgo]

Oh yea that too

[hard zealot]

@wind temple Orchestral Fun With Bananajor!

on god i need to make more orchestral stuff

[wind temple]

i might come up with a melody first for one section but the next section might start off with chords and then from there i think of a melody

[hard zealot]

dm dokuro type shi

[hard zealot]

ooo i understand that lol

i go through that process when writing on musescore

but on fl studio its always melody first

[ashen ginkgo]

I wanna make music :(

My pc ded :(

I should go study now tho

So uh good bye!

[hard zealot]

have fun studying

[lavish nest]

probably ? cant recall but if it got front paged i wouldnt worry too much about feedback lmfao

[wind temple]

good luck

[lavish nest]

i am not either

[hard zealot]

i'm addicted to I-bII guys what do i do :(

[lavish nest]

but then again my entire style is yk
never sticking to a genre

[ashen ginkgo]

I think it has a lot of room for improvement tho

[wind temple]

it sounds like kid icarus uprising lowkey

[lavish nest]

everything does

composition isnt about making perfection its about making something youre proud of

[ashen ginkgo]

https://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/1504866

Just I have this issue, maybe I took too long to buildup

[hard zealot]

i'm giggling

[ashen ginkgo]

Idk something about the first half doesn't work for me

[hard zealot]

this sounds so bad listening back

[lavish nest]

twin

[ashen ginkgo]

And it's bothering me

[lavish nest]

you got front paged that means ppl like it

any issues you have you can improve in other songs

[hard zealot]

i can hear the soundgoodizer on the master bus

😨

[ashen ginkgo]

Just give your honest feedback man

[lavish nest]

alr let me finish listening to what my gf sent me

[ashen ginkgo]

I don't consider this my best work anyways, I still think melodically, HOPE was better

[ashen ginkgo]

GF

[hard zealot]

jig

[ashen ginkgo]

LUDO YOU NEVER TOLD US

[hard zealot]

yeah, ludo's jif

[lavish nest]

ive been in a relationship for over a year inverse this isnt news

[hard zealot]

YOU NEVER KNEW???/

????????

[ashen ginkgo]

I NEVER KNEWW

[lavish nest]

literally over a year 😭

[ashen ginkgo]

AAaaaaaa

[hard zealot]

tbf you're fairly quiet about it ludo

[ashen ginkgo]

Walao eh

[lavish nest]

you can ask @serene ore but theres a big joke that i am a woman magnet

[ashen ginkgo]

Why never tell me sia

[hard zealot]

smh

its because you're 6 foot 7

[ashen ginkgo]

I thought that was radical???

[lavish nest]

ok radical says that true

they both do

a lot of ppl do actually

😭

[hard zealot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/705898471458078791/1474289546652024924/20260206_193022.gif

[ashen ginkgo]

Ok bro

This reminds me, I have rumours going around about me dating someone

[wind temple]

oh yeah i remember you saying this but i forgot

[lavish nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295658696788938772/1379085053258240130/fjqdpjgblh8crpkqpinj.gif

[ashen ginkgo]

It pmo

[lavish nest]

yeah im not the type to actively flex im in a relationship 😭 🙏

[ashen ginkgo]

Like when I have a normal friendship with a girl, suddenly everyone thinks we are dating

[lavish nest]

thats normal

[hard zealot]

i love my wife

🤑

[lavish nest]

but jor is

[hard zealot]

nuh mane nuh cuh

i don't flex mane

🥹

[lavish nest]

yuh mane yuh knuh yuh flex

[ashen ginkgo]

Nothing was said

I never said anything

Don't take aboutit

Intrusive Thoughts

AAAA

[hard zealot]

i swear

[wind temple]

? thats crazy Bro.

[hard zealot]

i feel like

[lavish nest]

why am i seeing messages get deleted bro i tab out for a few seconds

[hard zealot]

because of how bad my memory is

[ashen ginkgo]

Good.

[hard zealot]

i'm geuninely wondering

[wind temple]

🤫

[hard zealot]

"wtf did these guys just say?"

[lavish nest]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-can-i-get-a-dollar-gif-18231216523108038907

[ashen ginkgo]

It's extremely out of character for me to say stuff liddat

[wind temple]

who knows

[lavish nest]

forgive the corporation

[ashen ginkgo]

NOOOO

[lavish nest]

LMAO

[ashen ginkgo]

Ohphew

[lavish nest]

LMAOPOO

[hard zealot]

fuck

[ashen ginkgo]

RIP

[hard zealot]

have this

[wind temple]

IT WAS LITERALLY UP FOR LIKE 10 SECONDS BRO

[hard zealot]

HAHAHHA I SAW IT

I REMEMBER NOW'THANK YU

[wind temple]

oh okay you did see it

[lavish nest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1388617567085789340/1402434933951168684/attachment.gif

[ashen ginkgo]

Kil me

[wind temple]

its okay inverse at least you know youre not alone

[lavish nest]

its ambient so id ont see issue pacing wise
if youre looking for harmonic variation i have a track that can serve as great inspiration

[ashen ginkgo]

According to a random Instagram post, I'm a Dom cuz I play trombone

[lavish nest]

🗣️

[hard zealot]

...

❓

[lavish nest]

https://open.spotify.com/track/49y78l709VxMkIcq7jUJKN?si=0875dc1075194123

ambient @ashen ginkgo

[hard zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/nick-young-question-marks-what-excuse-me-huh-gif-19938846

[ashen ginkgo]

And another I saw said I was a switch

[hard zealot]

ah

?????

[ashen ginkgo]

Ooo ok

[hard zealot]

❓

[ashen ginkgo]

Idk man Instagram sends me crazy shit sometimes

[hard zealot]

i wish i was taller

[lavish nest]

any imrpovements are pure musically and just getting better at the craft, so listening to someone who perfected it or got near is a good way to hear your own ways to improve

[hard zealot]

not even for looks

[wind temple]

yeah its def from a trombone player cause thats a Lie

[hard zealot]

being taller makes piano easier

:(

[lavish nest]

i wish i was little bit taller 🗣️

[ashen ginkgo]

Then I changed my algorithm

[hard zealot]

😡

[ashen ginkgo]

To cara

Cars

[ashen ginkgo]

:(

[lavish nest]

here comes rayhan

brace for impact

[hard zealot]

hey inverse

[serene ore]

it is literally my set nickname for u rn

[hard zealot]

do you know anything abuot trumpet

[ashen ginkgo]

Wait I forgot what Dom means hold on

[lavish nest]

WAIT SERIOUSLY

LMAO

[wind temple]

I do

[serene ore]

why is music discussion on about thi

[lavish nest]

SHOW

[wind temple]

I know about trumpet

I love trum

p

et

[ashen ginkgo]

I wanted to play it and saxophone

But then my band not enough interments

[lavish nest]

https://tenor.com/view/open-season-shaw-deer-run-over-meme-gif-12251156658227451666

[ashen ginkgo]

So I had to choose between the euphonium and the trombone

And I chose trombone cuz it looked cool

[wind temple]

yeah i think that was the right choice

[ashen ginkgo]

And the euphonium players got cut and put in trumpet

[wind temple]

usually its the other way around at my school

[ashen ginkgo]

And a saxophone member left halfway

[wind temple]

cus theres like 5 million trumpets

[ashen ginkgo]

Cuz some force wanted to taunt

[hard zealot]

@ashen ginkgo is this good for trumpet?

[ashen ginkgo]

Mw

[wind temple]

not a SINGLE euphonium player between grades 10 and 12 when i was there

[ashen ginkgo]

Idk trumpet man

[hard zealot]

@wind temple is this good for trumpet

[ashen ginkgo]

Trombone is fun tho

[wind temple]

this is fine yeah

its on the harder end but absolutely feasible

[ashen ginkgo]

This reminds me that my band has a shit ton of running notes in our music this year

[wind temple]

my chopped ass prolly would struggle cus i havent played the trumpet in months

but it seems fine

[ashen ginkgo]

Poor woodwinds and trumpet

They sound insne

1/32nd notes at 140 b

Bpm

[hard zealot]

DCI C6 trumpet screamer type beat bro

[ashen ginkgo]

BAHHAAHAH

[lavish nest]

fish dw

[hard zealot]

BRO THINKS THIS IS DCI

[lavish nest]

i cant even play an instrument

im legit a fraud of a musician 🤫

[wind temple]

i was looking at the trumpet 2 part ☠️ ☠️ ☠️ ☠️ ☠️ ☠️ ☠️ ☠️

[ashen ginkgo]

Twombon :3

[hard zealot]

bro

[wind temple]

just realised the AIDS that is the trumpet 1 part

[hard zealot]

"find the odd one out" ahh image

😭

[wind temple]

nah i deadass thought it was another instrument for some reason so i just didnt pay any attention to it

[hard zealot]

i cant even play an

oh wait i do

[ashen ginkgo]

Holy fuck that is high

[hard zealot]

YEAH LMAOO

[ashen ginkgo]

I realised that treble clef is higher than bass

[hard zealot]

I'M PRETTY SURE ITS ACTUALLY C6

[wind temple]

tine thing helseth type shi bro

no one pulling that off 😂 except for ludo of course

[ashen ginkgo]

Anyways for the last 2 mins of my show it's all high notes in my score🥺

[wind temple]

he's the Best Trumpet player Oat.

[hard zealot]

here's what my trumpet friend had to say a while while while back

[ashen ginkgo]

My embouchure keeps collapsing midway

Idk what to do

[wind temple]

okay on god what is DCI

[hard zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/boston-crusaders-drum-corps-dci-2025-color-guard-gif-4671472473052009925

[ashen ginkgo]

One time I pushed really hard and my lip started swelling

[hard zealot]

damn

[ashen ginkgo]

Marching band

[hard zealot]

is this what happens to the trumpet players i torture

[ashen ginkgo]

Like mine

[wind temple]

we deserve it

[ashen ginkgo]

But our shows are also based off Thailand marching bands

[wind temple]

only group of instrumentalists to ever deserve the Flames Of Hell

[hard zealot]

WAIT

I'M PRETTY SURE THIS IS AN F6????

[wind temple]

idek why i think we're just like naturally annoying cus damn near everytime our conductor told someone to shut up it was the trumpet section LOLLLLLL

[hard zealot]

😭

[ashen ginkgo]

I didn't know Thailand had marching bands but they have a really raw way to present their showd

SHOWS

[hard zealot]

when someone tells the trumpets to quiet it down but they have to be loud just to reach high ass notes bruh

😭

[ashen ginkgo]

Oh for my band it used to be mellophones, now it's euphonium

[wind temple]

yeah like bro its not possible

even with a mute

it'll still sound loud

OR it'll sound like a fart in the wind

[ashen ginkgo]

Lower brasses when mf:

Also the euphoniums keep blasting and blame the trombones

It's annoying af

[wind temple]

bro me and my friend would keep making the dumbest possible jokes about our pieces

[ashen ginkgo]

Holy shit

That's so relatable

[wind temple]

there was this one piece called light cavalry

bro i dont know if i can talk about it here

like lowkey

i think i might get smited

[ashen ginkgo]

'This is why movement 3 is called repair tuba' I said one day and it spread like wildfire within the lower brass

[hard zealot]

LOLL

A FART IN THE WIND

[wind temple]

but basically the quiet section was me apparently mourning the death of the two horses that i supposedly had an affair with because they were both perfectly disguised as my friend

and at the end i die or something idfk

could NOT stop giggling bro the conductor told on us multiple times

[ashen ginkgo]

And it sounds so good

[ashen ginkgo]

What the fuck

[wind temple]

checks out

we went on a music tour to japan and we got HUMBLED

[ashen ginkgo]

it opens with sadness and sorrow from naruto

[ashen ginkgo]

The running notes are wild tho

[wind temple]

by this rural school too like what the fuck man

[lavish nest]

japan moment

[wind temple]

it wasnt even a music school it was just a regular public high school

THEY MADE A CHOIR

IN ONE DAY

BECAUSE THEY HEARD WE HAD ONE

and it was 100x better than ours 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

[ashen ginkgo]

First two movements are fine, and then movement 3 is just filled with crescendo decrescendo, f, mf whatever bullshit

MOVEMENT 3 IS 7 MINS INTO THE SHOW

They tryna kill us

[wind temple]

son youre cooked

[ashen ginkgo]

[north hull]

why does it sound better in discord to me ._.

[hard zealot]

discord compressiom?

idk if discord compresses files

[fiery pasture]

is this even a wav file

only 2.46 mb file is suspicious

[north hull]

its 14 seconds

and yes its a wav file

[lavish nest]

compression

[hard zealot]

discord compression?

or music compression

[lavish nest]

yeah discord compression

well

"compression"

discord sets all volumes back to 0 in a way

its weird to explain

so sometimes it can act as an expander

[north hull]

oh yeah like how spotify drops everything to -14 lufs

[hard zealot]

why

😭

[north hull]

idk 💀

i think its adjustable

they have a -23 lufs option iirc

[hard zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-808-808s-hi-hi-hats-gif-13581544759903087641

[lavish nest]

Nah

It's just a reduction in gain by a bit

There's a website where you can check how much your tracks will be reduced in streaming which u can use for mastering

[fiery pasture]

lowkey just here because inverse told me theres reliable people that can give good advice

i barely play tria and when i do im frustrated as hell

[north hull]

real

[fiery pasture]

movement 3: repair tuba

[fiery pasture]

indeed this beat was made

i am yet to follow all the important pieces of advice from everyone i know

nonetheless still pretty okay

[north hull]

https://youtu.be/1Gw1nTsE7Gg?si=2PbskaYZIThHekgT

anyone know how to make the lead from this its so fire

[north hull]

agony

[lavish nest]

Yes

Uh give me a bit

[lavish nest]

The lead in this is the same as

The lead in this

[hard zealot]

where'd you get that sound at the very start

like the very very start

because it sounds SO familiar

because it deadahh sounds like this thing i made

😭

[north hull]

lmfaooo its just the 8-bit lead thingy at the start ran through shaperbox and pancake

[fiery pasture]

this feels like one of those 'what is this blessing my ears' kind of situation

[north hull]

shaperbox pancake and khsbitcrush*

[fiery pasture]

11 whole minutes

chat i might start a waltz piece how do i avoid my piece sounding like swing

[hard zealot]

don't compose in swing

i can't comment on how to make waltz because i don't do classical but do jazz

😭

kinda a lie because i can kinda make waltzes

[fiery pasture]

my god i could barely tell that it was a 3/4 thingy

[hard zealot]

okay yeah i can make waltzes 💔

[fiery pasture]

thats a compliment

[fiery pasture]

woman bickering track 🔥

[hard zealot]

is this in 3/4 i forgo

[fiery pasture]

yes

[north hull]

reminds me of xnor xnor xnor

[north hull]

ran my bullshit through midilens, seems a lil inconsistent

[hard zealot]

D#m(maj7)no5 🤑

[hard zealot]

i think

yeah i think

can you show me the chords

[hard zealot]

are you sure them piano glides are possible to play

[north hull]

its not

its not in the slightest

[fiery pasture]

i never knew how alien every chord looked in typing until now

[fiery pasture]

can uuh

someone criticise me about this

pwease

i didnt have a mental breakdown for nothing

:D

[livid parrot]

@hard zealot tried to make a bss kinda thing

[livid parrot]

i really like the panning, other than that im a beginner at making music so i cant give much feedback 😭

[fiery pasture]

doesnt matter that youre a beginner, i just need your opinion on it

[north hull]

A# Augmented Major 7 #9 /C#

my favorite chord guys

[fiery pasture]

what in the world is augmented

[north hull]

iirc augmented is just diminished if you move the notes from minor3rd/5th to major3rd/5th

C major is C E G
C Diminished is C D# F# i think?
C Augmented would be C E G#?

[north hull]

i don know music theory ask jor

[fiery pasture]

i am barely understanding this

and i have no idea how or why i pulled off those chords in my song but they sound nice at least

[wind temple]

yeah you right

learning about intervals makes it much easier to understand how certain chords work

[north hull]

yeah like im usually good at hearing chords and making it sound alright

my biggest weakness is that i try to do a lot at once when making music, and i feel like it shows

[ashen ginkgo]

Me when the physics

[hard zealot]

honsetly

honestly*

all my music theory knowledge wasn't learned by writing down notes, taking lectures or anything

it actually came from just me getting on the piano and improvising jazz almost every single day until i got really acquainted with the harmonic language

though i am being taught music theory now

it's just before that time i had to learn it all on my own

anyway i don't think i wouldn't be the best teacher in this scenario because i lowkey can't explain that well

anyways, my recital is tomorrow

i've got a piano performance and a song duet to do

[flat sun]

I don't mean to waste anyone's 10 minutes,
but I made this song in one sitting, it's mostly piano and some strings,

-# . . . my back hurts

[hard zealot]

1st day of recital

performed the piano

and i did well :D

[wind temple]

good job vro

[lavish nest]

Pick up the phone guys

[north hull]

now to make femtanyl music you just add distortion and bitcrush to the master and formant the vocals

[wind temple]

a short segment of a much larger composition that ive been practicing on the sitar, posting it here because im finally beginning to achieve the sound quality ive been looking for and im proud of it

[lavish nest]

YOU CAN PLAY THE

WHAT

LORE

thats insanely impressive

[lavish nest]

i know what i wanna do but i dont know what i wanna do
that is the way of music

[wind temple]

@hard zealot bro i got this sick ass trumpet with a dizzy gillespie bell from the 90s today

[hard zealot]

YOOO

Record me some trumpets fr

If you could lowkey... do improv solo...

[wind temple]

i havent played since november im washed

i can
maybe do basic ass improv of moanin art blakey idk

but first i gotta think of something to play for an audition for my uni's big band

[hard zealot]

here's a recording of my recital btw @wind temple

no video cuz it shows my face

dear god i made so much mistakes

improv solo starts at 1:19

[wind temple]

ill def give it a listen tmrw

[wind temple]

Jizzing jazzing it bro ❤️
audio quality isnt fantastic but that was a damn good solo

[wind temple]

meant to reply to this

[hard zealot]

thank you m8

❤️

[wind temple]

do you play other instruments

[wind temple]

yeah im washed at solos

its fine i got until tuesday to do a good 2-3 minute take of some piece

[hard zealot]

uh

drums

guitahh

and the uke

[hard zealot]

that's good enough m8

[lavish nest]

I play the computer mouse

[wind temple]

bro multitalented

[hard zealot]

sure

[hard zealot]

this what jazz do to you

https://tenor.com/view/so-retro-classic-8-bit-nes-mario-gif-10260664971175953310

[wind temple]

hey guys
im looking for a new set of headphones, but i was wondering if any of yall could recommend something with both wired and wireless capability, so i can use it while working on ableton
@hot token tagging you cause i know you definitely use ableton

@lavish nest

i tagged yoe work acc fml

[lavish nest]

budget

whats your budget

[wind temple]

uhhhhh lets just say $100 tops

[hard zealot]

top ten times when bIImaj7b5 works really well here

the trombone doing the b5 is so good

[lavish nest]

w

ah

hmm

ill see what i can find

[north hull]

||i had my ears cleaned at the doctors and now i can hear colors||

[wind temple]

slight change of plans
forget the budget i brought up and it having wireless capability as well, just a good headset that will work well with ableton

[lavish nest]

dt 770 pro 80 ohms

they are the ones i have

beyerdynamics

[wind temple]

thanks gloob

[lavish nest]

nws

they are a little weak on the highs but really flat overall

[wind temple]

https://www.minidisc.com.au/beyerdynamic-dt-770-pro-80-ohm-closed-studio-headphones?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=21268760295&gbraid=0AAAAAC_Hu496CXfJk2J4gqvP_sk8aEQgO&gclid=Cj0KCQjw37nNBhDkARIsAEBGI8OaK0p6lVbfF37rwslBwuSlOm6xZNkV7XTmtZ74JDMt2Ru22QP9V40aAgpJEALw_wcB

ignore the website but its this one right

[lavish nest]

yes

bit expensive

i got mine for 120 quid

[fiery pasture]

whats the +40 for

someone say something about this im not too sure what im doing/gonna do

[north hull]

cents pitched up

[ashen ginkgo]

@lavish nest @wind temple @hard zealot MY PC IS BACK

With a catch

All my data is gone

[lavish nest]

MY HDD CRASHED AND EVERYTHING IS GONE - memodemo

[ashen ginkgo]

So I need y'alls help to help rebuild my sample library

[lavish nest]

splice

[ashen ginkgo]

Pls send me as many soundfonts, synths and samples as possible

[hard zealot]

big sample files big very big

oh yeah i have like, a folder of samples i use for drums

usually you place them into FPC but i'm not sure if LMS has something like that

[wind temple]

i ALSO need advice on building a sample library LMAO

but not rn

ive decided im gonna cook on musescore for a bit more

[ashen ginkgo]

Download as many soundfonts, synths and samples you like and make a folder for them

[wind temple]

and then ill get back to ableton eventually

[wind temple]

ight

[ashen ginkgo]

How tf y'all so RICH

[wind temple]

Amen........Breaks............

musescore is free and i only have the free version of ableton

which only allows you to use 8 tracks in one project 💀

[hard zealot]

make a sample library of sounds that you don't just like, but also see as useful

download too much sample packs and that's just gonna become a waste of space

i usually cycle through at least 7 sample packs and just those are already really good for me

[livid parrot]

@hard zealot pretty proud of the drums on this one i think,, just a bit loud maybe?

[wind temple]

i think its just a bit loud

that and also the soundfont for the cymbals is a bit grating but its fine overall

[livid parrot]

im not very good at layering sounds,,

[fiery pasture]

what in the world
-# also turn on your reply ping pls

[eternal tide]

https://fxtwitter.com/pale15a/status/2032205256705167694

💿 PALE 💿 (@pale15a)

mixing a song for the first time

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FxTwitter · Mar 12, 2026, 9:21 PM

[ashen ginkgo]

pls send

[ashen ginkgo]

guess who is back

@wind temple @hard zealot @lavish nest

[ashen ginkgo]

thoughts?

[fiery pasture]

did you remake your persistence song?

[wind temple]

ill get back to you on this tomorrow mb ive been a bit under the pump these past few days

remind me if i dont end up doing that 🙏

[ashen ginkgo]

Can we just talk about how insane fraud's ost is

I have never heard of such music that is ear candy and sticks with you at the same time

The guitar part from shattering circles got stuck in my head after I listened through the entire soundtrack after release, and I didn't even know it

My initial reaction was disappointment after the masterpiece that was violence, but holy shit is it really good after you realise it literally STICKS with you

Fraud and Violence from ultrakill might have the BEST soundtracks in video game history imo

[remote cradle]

Chat I need a pair of wireless headphones for around 80-100$

Not for music production or anything, it should just be able to play music well and be good for gaming ig

[hasty halo]

i love no devil lived on

[wind temple]

event horizon might be the new best song in the soundtrack

at least one made by hakita

[wooden dust]

the world looks white/red is my favorite song of all time with event horizon as a close second

[north hull]

practice

[fiery pasture]

gotta love the raw despair you can hear

[north hull]

callback to when this dude was just reposting camellia and kobaryo and other small artists songs without permission

(they’re banned now dont bother looking)

[little gull]

genuinely unbelievable that someone else knows them

They also use rhyx samples

They literally stole gecko artwork im crine

[wind temple]

i love music 👅👅👅👅👅👅👅👅👅🦠

[north hull]

im in the jeko discord server and apparently some artists in there have had their work reposted by this guy

my new goal for life is make music good enough to get scraped by this guy

[north hull]

i saw them say smth about that

[lavish nest]

tnky saw my comment on a jeko video and was laughing at how small the world is lol

[north hull]

the world is marble sized

[north hull]

i gotta learn how to mix based on what i want to be focused on in every part of a song

cause my current mixing is not the best

[fiery pasture]

chat why does any music outside of 4/4 feel like it needs a completely new set of music theory to explain it

[wind temple]

nah it doesnt

if you really think about it time signatures are kind of arbitrary; you can count a song in 4/4 time in 3/4 and it won't change how the piece sounds, but just how its represented on sheet music

however

theyre still useful because it makes certain pieces of music so much easier to understand
imagine if you had to use 4/4 instead of 5/4 for mission impossible, or 4/4 instead of 6/8 for spear of justice

[remote cradle]

chat are the cmf headphones pro good for a budget (i need wireless)

[north hull]

oh the nothing company

uhhhhhh

probably? they usually have solid quality stuff

lemme check the audio chart

you can adjust the equalizer and its got ANC so sure why not

if it didnt let you adjust those average lows would be heinous

[lavish nest]

its jus getting used to the counting

see youre probs used to 1 2 3 4 1 2 3 4

and probs can handle 3/4 which is

1 2 3 1 2 3

u jus gotta get into the groove and feeling of other time sigs

my method that helps me get into the movement of any time signature is by counting in 2s and 3s

for example 11/8

123 123 123 12
123 123 123 12

not only does that help me count it well but it also gives a basis for melodic construction

and this isnt just a random method i came up with its a good compositional practice u can hear it in songs from famous artists

such as

https://open.spotify.com/track/559K8nUEfwvXHHuPBgX2do?si=2ec14c74513c4da3

ofc this changes time sigs a lot

but you can count the melodies in groupings of 3s and 2s

[fiery pasture]

i mean like the chord progression always feels off when i do my composinh

[lavish nest]

rhythm or pitch wise

[fiery pasture]

rhythm

[lavish nest]

then yeah its literally jus getting into the groove of a diff time signature

cuz youre most likely treating another time sig as another 4/4

[fiery pasture]

uuaaahh

[lavish nest]

the same way performers get into the groove of eachother's rhythm when they jam, composers need to get into the groove of diff time signatures

[hard zealot]

more glorpin

[hard zealot]

i'm the type of person to ditch this method and count "1234567" rather than subdivide it 🤑

[lavish nest]

yeah teh better you get at it the less u gotta subdivide

jus on entry level thats a good way to get into it

[hard zealot]

it's hell to count it without subdividing especially on time signatures like 11/8

[lavish nest]

not really?

cuz u can subdivide without subdividing

cuz 1 2 3 4 5 6( 1 23) 7 8 9 (1 23) 10 11 (1 2)

[hard zealot]

no no for me, i tend to mouth out the counting

so it's hell to count numbers higher than 10

[lavish nest]

rip lmfao

[hard zealot]

i can get into a groove though without the need to count

i just ened

to enter flow state

[hard zealot]

oh yeah, i've been experimenting more with much jazzier chords

Gmaj7 - Gb7sus4 - Bmin7 - C7 - Am7 - Ab7

This is the uhhh, just the two of us chord progression but instead of dropping down a whole tone from Bmin7 it's down to a C7

which is EXTRA spicy

And then tritone sub to the tonic with the Ab7

Actually, some of these have 9ths and 11ths but i'm too lazy to write them

[hard zealot]

Another variation of this is, Gmaj7 - Gb7sus4 - Bmin - F7 which is even more spicy

I really wanna do a Bmin7 - E7 - Am7 - D7 - Gmaj7 variation

[hard zealot]

From E7 to Am7 it's V7 - ii

Then ii - V7 - I from Am7 - D7 to Gmaj7

[hard zealot]

VIma7 - V7sus4 - imin7 - bII7 - viima7 - bII7
(then the E7 variation)
VIma7 - V7sus4 - imin7 - V7/VII - imin7/VII - V7/VI - VIma7

[north hull]

eugh i hate number notation

idk why its just more confusing to me than letters

[hard zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/i-just-hit-the-jackpot-jackpot-i-just-hit-i-just-i-gif-6623346210678000489

number notation's sometimes hard to keep trackof ngl 😭

[lavish nest]

Y'all notate?

[hard zealot]

yeah

at some point i eventually have to learn

because yknow, jazz, sheet music, and understanding theory whatever the fuck

it's also nice to know the function of chords thru the roman numerals, makes it easier for me to think of chord progressions

[wind temple]

its way easier for me to do this than insert notes manually in a daw

[hard zealot]

^^^

[wind temple]

ludo you gotta tap into notation

its lowkey GOATED if you use it alongside ableton

[hard zealot]

notation is so good

especially when i'm improvising on the piano and i think of chords

it's so much more easier to write it down on paper man

[wind temple]

yeah

[hard zealot]

UGHH THIS WHY I NEED A MIDI KEYBOARD

[wind temple]

writing harmonies

god

10 times easier to write it out

harmonies make me CREAM bro i love it when you get a bunch of different instruments play notes to form a chord its so beautiful

im going off on a tangent but writing music for me is like relaxing in a way ive only ever felt when performing

[wind temple]

wait i only just saw this somehow BUT TRUTH NUKE THESE ARE SO HELPFUL

[hard zealot]

i remember there's a term for this

[wind temple]

i know there is and i forgot cause im a chud

fuuuuuck

[lavish nest]

Guys I was joking about the notation 💔

[livid parrot]

rate my scale

[wind temple]

when yoe friend keep yapping and shi so you lowk shove yoe phone up yoe butt so you start vibrating like a massage chair ✌️😭 😂 🤣

[lavish nest]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-fortnite-early-stream-reunion-gif-143982391907906686

[hard zealot]

cardinal

[ashen ginkgo]

Moosique

[eternal tide]

ok

[hard zealot]

been practicing improv

i'm gonna try learning how to use triads in my improv too

[remote cradle]

oh alr ty

[wind temple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xby5467EbdU

tap into possibly the greatest guitar solo of all time

i played like the first minute and a half of this for one of my final high school subjects but i lowkey want to do proper justice for this one day, it's such an incredible piece of music

[fiery pasture]

chat did i cook?

[fiery pasture]

3-E??? 2-e isnt even out yet 😭

[violet fern]

lol

[wind temple]

https://open.spotify.com/track/3GjMGOD7Un1eGD9mxpnOu2?si=eUL7CocLTtGFa1cnyD9nqw

holy beautiful @lavish nest

ludowic straight up aint missing

[hard zealot]

have i posted this before

[drowsy saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/red-hearing-peak-gif-185358842424781252

[north hull]

idk where i want to go with this tbh

[lavish nest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLInvy3cvCk

[ashen ginkgo]

I can finally compose shit again

Ive never felt so alive

[ashen ginkgo]

@lavish nest @hard zealot bee tee dubs

I'm composing for an English project on loneliness

Can I put y'all into a GC so I can get active feedback

I want the music to sound as good as possible and I need yalls help, particularly since I am not that good at writing piano

[young glacier]

https://youtu.be/wvYSQX8bKb4?si=-2RfbiT1MGp1VCvJ

[north hull]

d#m11 might be my new favorite chord if i can learn how to make good chord progressions in D

[hard zealot]

How the hell u gonna use D#m11 in a D major progression

Unless it's something like D#7sus4add11 for a tritone sub

[north hull]

i mean the general realm of D

dmaj/dmin

[hard zealot]

Ah

Ok

[hard zealot]

Do mind

D just means d majoe

So just say D/Dm

[north hull]

ah

[hard zealot]

That's why chords without extensions are written as dmaj or just D

Takes up less space too

[north hull]

interesting, i thought they always added maj/min to the end and then D is just D (or like dominant or whatever its called)

[north hull]

also what in the unholy hell chord is that

oh wait its just a sus4 nvm

[hard zealot]

Lolz

Sus4's to major are such a good way to resolve a progression

[north hull]

sus chords are cool

who the fuck decided to make augmented chords though

there is zero use case for them they always sound like shit

its like diminished if you take the dim and then make it dimmer

[hard zealot]

It'll sound like shit if ya don't use em right

[north hull]

the evil playlist

[lavish nest]

my song inspiration is jus my entire

[lavish nest]

unable to help im away for quite a bit + need to really focus on my own stuff, deadlines are crawling

[hard zealot]

uhhhhhhh sure

but don't expect me to always respond 😭

the jorn's got stuff to do

[flat sun]

I made dubcore!
(Dubstep + Hardcore)

[ashen ginkgo]

@hard zealot

posted

[hard zealot]

alr i'll review this in a bit

i'm currently teaching someone music theory

[strong peak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tk4j-huld8 something about the repetitiveness of this song is likeable for some reason

like realistically it should be boring af for me but it isnt

[ashen ginkgo]

@hard zealot I think it's been a bit...

Idk tho

[hard zealot]

sorry

i had to deal with a lot of stuff

[ashen ginkgo]

@hard zealot pls dont ignore me again :(

[hard zealot]

i'll try to see if i can give feedback

the previous days have been busy

religion, work and a whole lot of personal stuff

[ashen ginkgo]

i understand

[hard zealot]

dude one of our religious events, the procession

you have to walk from the church, and walk really far then go back

like, really really far

[remote cradle]

Holy shit synthetic lullaby 2 got me ascending 😭 (it’s from wifies’s new vid and the song is on SoundCloud)

[violet fern]

dunno what to do with this

[remote cradle]

For some reason, it reminds me of “in the pool”

[barren laurel]

first time picking up a guitar

[molten saffron]

ayyyyyyyyy

i wanna get a guitar one day too

[fiery pasture]

first time doing a cover, wav file was 3mb too large to be sent

fuck you discord 10mb is WEAK

[north hull]

totally woulda did better without loud music next to me

[hard zealot]

how tis metal

[hard zealot]

atp get a ukulele if you're gonna spam the high E string bruh 😭

or js get a electric guitar since it's easier to do higher notes on the fretboard w that

[barren laurel]

through the willpower of a weeb + pure love for the artist (tk from ling tosite sigure/ling tosite sigure's music is So Good) nothing can stop me

[hard zealot]

if you wanna play higher higher up in the fretboard it's reccomended to just get an elec guitar

it's painful to play really high on an acoustic

[ashen ginkgo]

20 days...

Until the sun rises

[fiery pasture]

movement 3:

[north hull]

i have been trying and failing techcore for the past 7 months
i am FINALLY getting closer

[north hull]

im getting somewhere 👀

[north hull]

symphonic metal? 👀

[hard zealot]

do you lowk listen to bossa nova

[north hull]

i have listened to bossa nova but its not something i listen to often

[formal sapphire]

i need some feedback on this

i dont think its good enough

[north hull]

lowk only posting it here so i can check how it sounds after discord nukes it

lead isnt filling enough space 😛 (or maybe its too loud idk)

[north hull]

yall is this one better yay or nay

[north hull]

it sounds fine to me but it depends on what the song is meant for

[wind temple]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOeioa44-S4&t=3198s

just thought id share possibly my favourite album of all time (? at least one of)

sent an extended version because each piece transitions to the next perfectly, including the last to the first

[solid narwhal]

There's no limit
To the music

[wind temple]

WALLAHI FREE GREGOIRE 🗣‼

[formal sapphire]

it's meant for climbing a timeless clock tower to go back in time

[hard zealot]

@ashen ginkgo you've got something going on here that i really like

also love the slow buildup of the arpeggio's volume

[ashen ginkgo]

oh ok

[hard zealot]

and then when it increases volume, it HITS, i like that

[ashen ginkgo]

yay

[hard zealot]

i think your mixing got better

[hard zealot]

nice job btw

i'm liking it so far

[ashen ginkgo]

well, time to rebuild the whole track

[hard zealot]

i love the part where the amen break comes in btw

i think for the part the amen break settles into a consistent volume

you should add something that plays 4 quarter notes each measure in staccato