#THE BEAST ARCHIVE

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pulsar scroll
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LOL

obtuse zephyr
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It kinda does

leaden plover
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vuncle what is going on here

obtuse zephyr
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It's about the spatial and mental skill space

rose plank
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OMG SO CLOSE TO 2000 COMMENT LETS GO CHAT

leaden plover
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go my spam

trail mauve
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do you just not feel your heart beating

rose plank
ocean beacon
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this is actually just free advertisements for daem and fugi

rose plank
somber hinge
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well, if you have more honed nerve control then it would make whatever you're doing slightly easier to do, BUUUUT that doesn't make the entire map itself easier because the feat is still just as difficult

obtuse zephyr
pulsar scroll
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this whole time ive just been trying to understand this logic

trail mauve
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@obtuse zephyr then tell me how i didn’t beat sonic wave on THIS attempt

obtuse zephyr
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When I play nyx I get 145 bpm, but when I play full rigor I get 115

ocean beacon
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daem how did all of this go into the tbiw chat

somber hinge
obtuse zephyr
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yes

trail mauve
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yo ass is NOT getting far in rigor then

obtuse zephyr
somber hinge
wicked barn
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is this just a top 1 discussion thread

obtuse zephyr
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bro no I get to nyx fairly often

trail mauve
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when i fluked from 62 to 97% on acu i had like 170+ bpm

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i died PURELY because of nerves

somber hinge
obtuse zephyr
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My bpm is lower when I'm at nyx from the start of Rigor than rather using the startpos of nyx

vital idol
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Nerves don't exist

ocean beacon
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tbiw channel makes people stupid actually

bleak ore
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But the Break isnt as long as Agitato 3.0 so no, you wouldn't become more relaxed. If anything you'll become MORE focused due to not having the time to properly rest unlike the Elevator in Agitato 3.0.

pulsar scroll
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by playing the full rigor, youre literally just adding an entire other section to NYX

no matter how much logic you try to put into this, it will never ever be correct. Doing VSC once is harder than pulling it off two times in a row.

obtuse zephyr
trail mauve
obtuse zephyr
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Eris Is so much easier it adds to my confidence and zen skill

ocean beacon
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this is actually just two baiters colliding together

obtuse zephyr
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Japan theming makes me more zen and locked in, also lowering my bpm

lucid locust
pulsar scroll
lucid locust
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You cant even beat your own map

rose plank
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bro if we cut tbiw in half it would be like saying i play the map but on the second half, thus the conondrum of playability for it will assure me i can play better, but not when i play the full map. this means that by all means necessary tbiw must get revo and if we played the first half of rigor instead of the third half of tbiw would imply rigor is harder by time x signifying the equivalence of mass and the sum of both halves of rigor. so with this formula we can calculate that nyx's half is not harder than rigor, but the second half of the second half of rigor (nyx's second half) would then be easier than rigor itself, so we cant simply assume it's harder than tbiw but true when the differentials are met and rigor is simply not harder than nyx.

obtuse zephyr
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bro I dropped it

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because I have school

ocean beacon
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should i just cut ath in half to make it top 1

vital idol
obtuse zephyr
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heavens gateway and ath are the same difficulty, to the 2nd decimal.

Unlike how nyx is harder than rigor

barren violet
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yeah nyx is harder than rigor bro

lucid locust
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hg is like 6.99 ath is 7.3

obtuse zephyr
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???

ocean beacon
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hg is free imo

obtuse zephyr
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Are we being deadass right now

barren violet
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Hes not wrong bro dont you guys see it

ocean beacon
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dont know why but i did not have a struggle on it

lucid locust
obtuse zephyr
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bro you don't understand

trail mauve
barren violet
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cause in nyx ur not in the flow but in rigor u get to nyx in the flow

lucid locust
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you dont understand

wicked barn
lucid locust
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how stupid you sound lmfaoooo

trail mauve
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your logic is saying 7 + 7 = 7

obtuse zephyr
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My zen connection to skill and nerve control is a lot more connected to eris which let's me ease into nyx

barren violet
lucid locust
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this is like training a bat to drive a car

obtuse zephyr
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Also the preparedness eris gives, makes nyx easier

bleak ore
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😭 😭

ocean beacon
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red whats your hot take on this

obtuse zephyr
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It's kind of like a mini warmup that oriented you to prepare for nyx

pulsar scroll
# rose plank bro if we cut tbiw in half it would be like saying i play the map but on the sec...

I couldnt help but agree with your logic. Due to the circumference of a circle, pi, in other words 3.14159265359... and so on, we can calculate that playing the tower on backburner is much more nerve racking and difficult in comparison to playing the full backburner (including the tower). By playing the full backburner, youre already locked in and prepared for the tower, therefore making it easier to pull off.

bleak ore
somber hinge
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YOU STILL RECEIVE TIME TO PROPERLY REST
AND ONCE AGAIN YOU IGNORE WHAT 70% OF THAT WRITING WAS ABOUT
JUST BECAUSE THAT AMOUNT OF TIME IS SHORTER DOESNT MEAN YOU SUDDENLY GET SUPER EXTRA FOCUSED, THAT FOCUS IS SOMETHING THAT STARTS OFF AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MAP AND YOUR NERVE CONTROL IS WHAT HELPS HONE THAT FOCUS IN AND HELP DRIVE YOU FORWARD
SIMPLY SAYING THE BREAK IS WHAT MAKES YOU FOCUS IS INHERENTLY WRONG
GRRR OOOOUGH IM SO ANGRY OH MAN OH BOY OOOOUGH UGGGGH YOU FUCKING PISS ME OFF

rose plank
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ok but it makes sense when we play heaven gateway's second half not when playing rigor's first half, cause eris is harder than nyx but nyx itself is harder than rigor so nyx cant be easier than rigor but yes if nyx is set to a difficulty of 6.89 with a decimal point of .02 surplus zen and the japanese theme of nyx's nature makes it easier to play but at the same time it's harder than rigor.

pulsar scroll
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LOL

obtuse zephyr
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thus, boosting confidence and engagement

trail mauve
lucid locust
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LOOL

bleak ore
obtuse zephyr
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making it easier

ocean beacon
somber hinge
barren violet
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the calm theme of the start calms you down in preparation for nyx even if by a tiny percentage

obtuse zephyr
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EXACTLY

ocean beacon
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ruined heavenscape harder than heaven gateway because you start 2 seconds earlier

barren violet
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especially cause nyx is scary hell oo aaa teeth blood

silver willow
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Im deleting RIGOR

barren violet
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i get nyx in my nightmares im very scared of nyx

trail mauve
lucid locust
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i nearly choked because of how hard im laughing rn

somber hinge
bleak ore
# ocean beacon i agree

Remmebrr when we Played Heaven Gateway in tria and I couldn't pass the first few jumps but when I played Ath I made it to trial 1. This means that hg>Ath🀣

vital idol
pulsar scroll
obtuse zephyr
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You go from calm gameplay to a mild gameplay intensity warmup, then to a chaotic embodiment of nyx

wicked barn
trail mauve
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what psychologist do you have sitting next to you while playing TRIA.os

obtuse zephyr
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It helps EASE YOU IN

lucid locust
pulsar scroll
obtuse zephyr
trail mauve
somber hinge
obtuse zephyr
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psych

pulsar scroll
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yo, if youre typing in this forum, you fell for the ragebait. LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL 🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣

obtuse zephyr
ocean beacon
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mods lets mute this, toxic behaviour!

barren violet
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cause like if u start from erebus ur not in the flow you just get thrown into the map so its harder than the actual erebus in rigor

somber hinge
bleak ore
trail mauve
barren violet
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and its also scary and dark

lucid locust
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Normally people beat nyx before rigor

obtuse zephyr
pulsar scroll
barren violet
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nah i beat erebus after rigor

obtuse zephyr
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I'm Fucking telling you bro

pulsar scroll
ocean beacon
obtuse zephyr
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ITS THE NERVES AND FOCUS IN YOUR GAMEPLAY

lucid locust
barren violet
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exactly

pulsar scroll
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we got flat earthers playing tria.os bro πŸ₯€

barren violet
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if you get thrown in a random part of nyx minitower you have the muscle memory destroyed and thrown off

pulsar scroll
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@obtuse zephyr is the earth flat

obtuse zephyr
obtuse zephyr
barren violet
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Its a circle

obtuse zephyr
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My take is not fucking outlandish how do you not understand my premise

pulsar scroll
vital idol
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The earth isn't flat but it's not round either

wicked barn
pulsar scroll
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yours just sounds so unbelievably ridiculous because it looks like youre completely ignoring the point im trying to convey

obtuse zephyr
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the break in agitato does make the map eternal
Without it, it's prob like 6.8 divine

wicked barn
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Also how do u love arguing ur a loser

lucid locust
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LOLLL

pulsar scroll
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this is who im trying to argue with??

barren violet
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yeah it like messes up ur flow

ocean beacon
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this fight is a big fat nothing burger with absolute zero fucks

barren violet
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it kinda interrupts it and puts it to a stop

obtuse zephyr
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this is because you lose the flowstate, you are not engaging in platforming, thus it acts as an anti warm up

pulsar scroll
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/spee

obtuse zephyr
somber hinge
pulsar scroll
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me talking to these people right now

bleak ore
# somber hinge

But you see, since the break isnt as long and you're right back into the gameplay, you wont lose any adrenaline. This is why Nyx is harder than Rigor. And you said it yourself, the focus starts at Eris and nerve control would be greater due to your adrenaline upon reaching the start of Nyx

barren violet
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erebus is harder than rigor

obtuse zephyr
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Okay hot take I'm about to say here but

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The predrop gameplay in derelict is easier than both towers

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because the music and build up gives you so much motivation it allows you to crush them with ease

ocean beacon
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erebus harder than rigor because instantly you cant fucking see where the hell you are going and you get absoutely blinded by the thousands of effects

barren violet
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exactly

obtuse zephyr
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attaining the motivation in the first place is what makes the predrop hard

bleak ore
barren violet
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you get motivated to do it cause of the sick music

lucid locust
wicked barn
somber hinge
# bleak ore But you see, since the break isnt as long and you're right back into the gamepla...

first off shoutout spearmint for checkmarking your message 1 1/2 seconds after you sent it, what a fast reader

second off the main point i shouldve started out on here is that you having better nerve control on rigor shouldnt objectively make the map easier. the gameplay is still the same, it is YOU that is entire different. im sorry if i sort of derailed it to something entirely different i kinda debunked your main argument wrong
yes you might have more adrenaline and more drive but that wont make the gameplay definitively easier

somber hinge
obtuse zephyr
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Forgetting the biggest factor

lucid locust
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motivation to beat a map doesnt decide its difficulty

pulsar scroll
obtuse zephyr
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You get so damn motivated by the predrop it makes the tower a breeze compared to the rest

pulsar scroll
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keep adding "LOOL" to the end of your messages

somber hinge
obtuse zephyr
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The music and simplicity yet eventually more dangerous atmosphere helps build it

barren violet
obtuse zephyr
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THE motivation is key

lucid locust
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im losing braincells chatting here

ocean beacon
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literally anythings difficulty is based on you, yourself, not what others think

lucid locust
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like im talking to a special ed class

somber hinge
bronze void
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fucks going on here anyway lol

obtuse zephyr
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Dude it does

barren violet
zenith surge
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buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurp

obtuse zephyr
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Physical and mental gameplay is improved with the motivation of the predrop

bleak ore
somber hinge
ocean beacon
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did i heard flowstate

pulsar scroll
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people with this level of stupidity actually hurt my head to speak to

obtuse zephyr
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???

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Dude motivation exists???

barren violet
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imagine you hear the greatest music piece ever written for a tria map so you like it so much it makes you think more thoughts and those thoughts can help you

pulsar scroll
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you mentioned some shit about your zen making rigor easier

bleak ore
pulsar scroll
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thats just one example

bronze void
zenith surge
pulsar scroll
ocean beacon
somber hinge
zenith surge
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Music Makes You Think More Thoughts πŸ—£οΈ

barren violet
ocean beacon
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😊

trail mauve
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the only thing i understood from this is

doing tow and tudol in a row is easier than doing tudol because you would be too locked in to fail tudol

obtuse zephyr
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what determined a maps difficulty

40% motivation
40% where you start
10% confidence
5% Atmosphere
5% gameplay and pace

pulsar scroll
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bro i play maps better without music because they add intensity to the gameplay

somber hinge
barren violet
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but the intensity can make you more nervous so it makes it harder

pulsar scroll
bronze void
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what kind of fuckass argument bro

trail mauve
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@obtuse zephyr is doing tow and tudol in a row easier than doing tudol

obtuse zephyr
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Unironically, I played derelict without music and I couldn't even make it to the first tower

zenith surge
somber hinge
obtuse zephyr
bronze void
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you legit have to go through eris first to even start nyx

obtuse zephyr
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It's just a simple idea. Very simple

trail mauve
barren violet
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its harder because you get thrown into the part of the map without any flow so youre just starting from scratch

ocean beacon
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mods can we mute this chat

trail mauve
barren violet
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and eris has a calm theme and song so it calms you down in preparation for nyx

bleak ore
vital idol
barren violet
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cause nyx is super scary and ahhh teeth blood

lucid locust
zenith surge
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im so big and gassy

bleak ore
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And I dont like Blood. Or Teeth closing on me

trail mauve
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bro lwk just asked chatgpt how to start an argument in tria and we fell for it

lucid locust
barren violet
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yeah especially in that minitower im claustrophobic so it makes me scared

obtuse zephyr
# bronze void you legit have to go through eris first to even start nyx

First. Rigor is low divine, nyx is 7.4.
Secondly, the motivation you achieve gives you a boost in gameplay and confidence as it becomes easier to execute
Third. Rigor is a calm and zen map, which helps me relax because of the given atmosphere and lock in
4. It helps ease me into a chaotic theme that I can hardly digest, but the transition of the themes makes it easier to control my nerves and fear

pulsar scroll
trail mauve
ocean beacon
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i have no clue how the fuck minty's argument even exists

lucid locust
trail mauve
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ts Dude JUST SAID NYX IS HARDER THAN FBO

barren violet
pulsar scroll
barren violet
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you know i get nightmares of nyx every day its a hard life

somber hinge
zenith surge
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ykw what if we all just agree that rigor is normal difficulty and nyx is like fuckass armageddon or someshit and my reasoning is because Im Always Right And Im Never Wrong

bleak ore
obtuse zephyr
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This is backed by how my BPM is THIRTY LOWER when playing nyx inside of rigor than playing nyx from the starting map. It's JUST TRUE

barren violet
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well the end of eris is like transforming into nyx

bronze void
barren violet
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super scary transformation ahhh teeth blood eyes

trail mauve
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doing all eternals in a row before beating tbiw is easier than tbiw because you’re more locked in and in a zenful flow state

pulsar scroll
bleak ore
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Also we all forgot to take into account the last tower on Nyx, its very dark and gloomy with white objects. I think landing on these is quite difficult, which adds into why Nyx is harder than Rigor

zenith surge
somber hinge
obtuse zephyr
trail mauve
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wtf does this mean β€οΈβ€πŸ©Ή

pulsar scroll
somber hinge
obtuse zephyr
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Confidence and WARM UPS heavily influence how hard a map is for me

bronze void
pulsar scroll
somber hinge
ocean beacon
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tria community vs red and minty

obtuse zephyr
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Eris ACTS AS A WARM UP

bronze void
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OK TAKE IT FROM THIS PERSPECTIVE

zenith surge
lucid locust
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i use nyx as a warmup for rigor

pulsar scroll
ocean beacon
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hope tbiw gets 3k messages

trail mauve
obtuse zephyr
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IT EASES YOU INTO THE CHAOTIC ENERGY OF NYX

bronze void
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YOU HAVE A DESTINATION TO GET TO

pulsar scroll
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like if you keep replaying nyx you can warmup

bleak ore
somber hinge
wicked barn
somber hinge
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maybe post-argument

lucid locust
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eris is easier than nyx

bronze void
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YOU CAN TAKE TWO ROUTES, ONE LONGER, ONE SHORTER

trail mauve
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eris to nyx is harder than nyx to erebus

zenith surge
bronze void
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WHICH ONE ARE YOU TAKING

somber hinge
bronze void
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TO GET TO YOUR DESTINATION IN TIME

lucid locust
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yea but erebus is included in nyx

somber hinge
obtuse zephyr
pulsar scroll
barren violet
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but the shorter one is scary and the route is harder so you dont have that flow from the longer route

obtuse zephyr
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It's all about FLOW and EASING

ocean beacon
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minty is beating cov and coiv considered easier than just beating coiv

somber hinge
barren violet
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eris gives you a slow transformation to nyx it gives you small steps to prepare for the super scary blood part

wicked barn
bleak ore
somber hinge
pulsar scroll
obtuse zephyr
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Dude think about this

trail mauve
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@obtuse zephyr you’re scarred for life

pulsar scroll
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it instead makes you nervous that youre going to die

pulsar scroll
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LOL

barren violet
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which is the super scary blood teeth part

lucid locust
ocean beacon
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why did this 3rd eye bullshit actually make me laugh

trail mauve
bronze void
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you have way better nerve control if you start from nyx rather than eris

zenith surge
pulsar scroll
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ts kid not a fortune teller bro

obtuse zephyr
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Would you rather have a quick and easy warm up that slowly puts you into hell but allows you to ease with little difficulty

Or be yeeted straight into hell with zero easing or preparation with immense difficulty

somber hinge
obtuse zephyr
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The latter id assume

somber hinge
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ok you changed it good

obtuse zephyr
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ITS A EASING TRANSITION

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it gives confidence and MOTIVATION

trail mauve
obtuse zephyr
zenith surge
pulsar scroll
trail mauve
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there IS difficulty in that bro

ocean beacon
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minty have you ever considered the fact that nyx has an entirely different playstyle from eris

obtuse zephyr
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Fun fact. THIS IS PROVEN HOW MY PB IN RIGOR IS THE BEGINNING OF EREBUS AND MY PB IN THE NYX MAP IS END OF MINI TOWER

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MY NERVES ARE SO MUCH WORSE FROM THE NYX MAP

bleak ore
# somber hinge

See you understand it. Take a look at this picture, his 3rd Eye is Awakening and this is how he'll beat The Sin

pulsar scroll
wicked barn
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THE WAY TO BEAT THE SIN IS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT HOW BAD THE MAP IS WHILE UR GRINDING IT

barren violet
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nyx literally says are you all ready because its asking if youre ready for the super scary blood part

somber hinge
pulsar scroll
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I SEE HIS THIRD EYE

somber hinge
obtuse zephyr
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145 bpm on nyx (map)
Compared to 115 bpm on nyx (from the start of Rigor)

bronze void
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would you rather do an extreme demon from 0-100% or 55-100%

pulsar scroll
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EATING ONE HUNDRED HOTDOGS IS HARDER THAN EATING TWO HUNDRED

somber hinge
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taking a piss is harder than taking a shit

somber hinge
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thats a bad example ignore that

obtuse zephyr
bronze void
blazing bane
pulsar scroll
barren violet
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a shit is harder cause you get thrown into hell

pulsar scroll
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what is different

somber hinge
pulsar scroll
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between the logic im using and yours

obtuse zephyr
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It's rather would you beat a 7.42 eternal or a 7.4 eternal with heavy easing and confidence boosting to give a supported warm up, and help support with nerves

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Thus, rigor is EASIER TO DO

bronze void
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this has to be ragebait therefore I am engaging to egobait this is my mindset

pulsar scroll
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50-100 on thinking space ii is way more difficult than the full level

somber hinge
ocean beacon
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i say we listban fbo

obtuse zephyr
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NOT every opinion is ragebait dude

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Jeez always assuming

pulsar scroll
somber hinge
bronze void
vital idol
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Opinion is fact in this case

obtuse zephyr
somber hinge
pulsar scroll
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this shouldnt even have an opinion

somber hinge
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yo can i get 3 reactions for this 30 minute mark

bronze void
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OK HOW ABOUT THIS

pulsar scroll
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its literally just set in stone that rigor is harder than nyx there is no argument

wicked barn
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sin boss fight map is harder than the sin boss in the map too

bleak ore
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I say we make fbo top 1, the map is located in a desert/winter environment. What if we freeze to death? Or die of dehydration? This is why fbo>tbiw

pulsar scroll
vital idol
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Nyx is harder

lucid locust
pulsar scroll
vital idol
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Opinion is fact as said previously

obtuse zephyr
pulsar scroll
vital idol
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Thus therefore

wicked barn
obtuse zephyr
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confidence and easing, SCIENTIFICALLY assists with confidence and gameplay

somber hinge
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everyone think like spearmint we're all a hivemind and spearmint is our dictator

bronze void
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YOURE PLAYING A CATASTROPHIC ETOH TOWER. YOU HAVE TWO CHOICES FOR A COMPLETION:

START FROM FLOOR 0
START FROM FLOOR 5

EITHER CHOICE WILL GIVE YOU THE WIN IF YOU SUCCEED

WHICH PATH IS EASIER

barren violet
ocean beacon
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meditate more to beat rigor faster apparently

vital idol
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Etoh ew

pulsar scroll
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FLOOR ZERO IS EASIER BECAUSE I WILL UNLOCK MY ZEN AND THIRD EYE

bleak ore
barren violet
obtuse zephyr
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Dude ZEN connection helps you Focus on nyx when playing the full RIGOR

lucid locust
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PREDICTED LMFAO

pulsar scroll
lucid locust
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what even is a fuckin zen connection dude

bleak ore
wicked barn
lucid locust
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like having zen addeed

ocean beacon
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im done im leaving this fucking conversation holy typing shit

obtuse zephyr
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it's just the theming of Rigor

pulsar scroll
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i can not believe we are connecting like spiritualism with tria.os map difficulty

obtuse zephyr
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My dad is half Buddhist so maybe it's that

pulsar scroll
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i have to be talking to ai

vital idol
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Not in the right state of mind to achieve such

pulsar scroll
lucid locust
bronze void
bleak ore
blazing bane
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but rigor is obviously easier than nyx because the average difficulty is easier than that of nyx because eris is easier than nyx

since eris is easier than nyx

if you average the gp of rigor, (eris and [rigor] nyx), it is easier than the average gameplay of nyx

chat nyx is harder than rigor

pulsar scroll
wicked barn
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HG is harder than ATH too

pulsar scroll
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and it never will

obtuse zephyr
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I FORGOT TO MENTION THE AVERAGING, IT HELPS WITH CONFIDENCE

lucid locust
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even if this is ragebait i will rebeat nyx then try rebeating rigor

pulsar scroll
bleak ore
obtuse zephyr
somber hinge
# bronze void YOURE PLAYING A CATASTROPHIC ETOH TOWER. YOU HAVE TWO CHOICES FOR A COMPLETION: ...

floor zero is easier cuz my cat will start meditating and i'll have three challenges and curses to beat to unlock my inner third eye. the first is to defeat the devilish fire witch. i wield my newly forged iron sword and cast it against her, and although it melts, i'm given enough time to freeze her over with a spell i learned from the local town mages. the second challenge is to tame cerberus, the three-headed hell dog. knowing it to be a beast, i use my best tactics to try and encourage it. eventually, a playful tone is what settles it. the third is the hardest; defeat my mentor in a duel. i struggle, yet as always the student surpasses the teacher. it's a heartbreaking moment to watch him go- i never wanted it to end this way. after his body starts to decay. a pain hurts my forehead. i gasp and groan as a thin, narrow opening shows up; and a third eyeball awakens. i then sit at my desk and beak the catastrophic tower.

lucid locust
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and see what takes me longer

obtuse zephyr
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Like to the second decimal point, hg and ath are tied

pulsar scroll
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YOURE PROBABLY RIGHT

somber hinge
obtuse zephyr
civic wagon
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Hello Bros

somber hinge
trail mauve
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doing the sin and tbiw in a row is easier than beating tbiw because you’re so locked in and in zenful flow state to the point your third eye will open and you have a passrate of 347%

lucid locust
obtuse zephyr
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Bro you're mocking me

pulsar scroll
zenith surge
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rub my bellayyyyyyyyyy

trail mauve
obtuse zephyr
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dude

pulsar scroll
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DUDE THIS IS ALL I HAVE TO DO

obtuse zephyr
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Disrespectful to my Buddhist relationship

zenith surge
#

yall could the goon + rigor strat work

pulsar scroll
somber hinge
# obtuse zephyr Bro you're mocking me

yo btw i've spent 90% of this arguing against red and i wrote that shit for fun because frankly i do not give a flying dancing fuck about an opinion i've tried disputing fairly only to be met with red saying bullshit and then dipping halfway through the argument. im fine with you cuz atleast ur standing on business

pulsar scroll
#

like goon during rigor gameplay? or

bronze void
#

WHAT IF YOU UNLOCK THIRD EYE IN RIGOR BUT THEN YOU SWITCH TO NYX MAP AND GO FROM THERE

zenith surge
pulsar scroll
#

yeah thatd prob work out

vital idol
obtuse zephyr
somber hinge
obtuse zephyr
#

I could be wrong. Don't quote me.

zenith surge
#

WAIT WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT RIGOR HERE THIS IS THE TBIW THREAD

somber hinge
#

i digress

pulsar scroll
#

Move mouse with right foot and use wasd with left foot. click spacebar with heel.

trail mauve
#

im just saying NYX IS NOT HARDER THAN FBO

bronze void
zenith surge
#

some of yall

obtuse zephyr
#

Em buyiooh beuraa yo aauh su tuu na na burruyeea rohhusuuudududu dude dududud dudududu tutti
Tbiw lyrics

lucid locust
bleak ore
pulsar scroll
#

WAIT

somber hinge
trail mauve
pulsar scroll
#

I SEE IT

somber hinge
#

and he just played 13 pekka yeah fuck this

verbal pivot
#

yo whats happening

pulsar scroll
#

I SEE HIS THIRD EYE

obtuse zephyr
pulsar scroll
#

IVE UNLOCKED IT

barren violet
#

I see it too

pulsar scroll
#

I UNDERSTAND IT ALL

obtuse zephyr
#

dude this is disrespectful to buddhism

verbal pivot
obtuse zephyr
#

You don't understand my zen relation to Japan

pulsar scroll
#

MY EYES ARE OPEN TO THE TRUE NATURE OF THE WORLD

verbal pivot
#

you gotta see it through

vital idol
#

Yare yare

wicked barn
#

When you all visit monks... you will truly understand the inner mind and difficulty.

bleak ore
pulsar scroll
#

ive come to understand that zen and flow state are what make playing full maps easier than sections of them

wicked barn
#

The government is trying to fool you and you need to see past that.

vital idol
#

πŸ‘οΈ

verbal pivot
#

sami done gone mad or sum

obtuse zephyr
#

The elevator in agitato makes it eternal

somber hinge
pulsar scroll
bronze void
pulsar scroll
obtuse zephyr
#

im allowed to use real experiences.

pulsar scroll
#

you need to use twitter, uhbl.

verbal pivot
somber hinge
pulsar scroll
somber hinge
obtuse zephyr
bronze void
#

this is like how people argue on top lists of things like max mode list or demon list

obtuse zephyr
#

its noticeable, but not like world changing

somber hinge
pulsar scroll
#

ive had flow state too bro

obtuse zephyr
lucid locust
#

att after btw

verbal pivot
somber hinge
obtuse zephyr
#

the only thing ive said is that i have ties to buddhism

#

and youre using what buddhism is

#

i just feel relaxed

#

i have a lot of japaneese family and ive been there for around 2/3 years when i was younger

bronze void
#

SOMEHOW

obtuse zephyr
#

i feel a connection with rigor that allows me to ease into the difficulty of nyx

bleak ore
#

Looks like its over

#

Same time tomorrow guysπŸ₯Ή fbo>the sin

obtuse zephyr
#

and looks like we, my fellow friend red.

#

we have won the arguement.

#

i knew I was RIGHT ALL ALONG

bleak ore
#

Yes my friend, you are correct. Im going to play flee the facility now🀣 ✌️

#

All this from 1 message BTW

lucid locust
#

died like 5 times

#

on rigor

somber hinge
#

and looks like we, my fellow friend epic.

#

we have won the argument.

#

i knew WE were RIGHT ALL ALONG

bleak ore
#

W e

obtuse zephyr
#

have you considered LUCK?? there is no physical and scientific backing off of this????

#

you know who knows? maybe he rampantly crashed himself against nyx so much until he got so used to it

somber hinge
obtuse zephyr
#

the point is, its easier to get used to the flowstate of full rigor than to accomodate to nyx

lucid locust
#

funny how i didnt get nervous at all playing nyx

obtuse zephyr
#

like a lot harder dude. this needs more data as currently it is an BIASED sample

somber hinge
#

bro i was copying what u said cuz it was corny asl 😭 dont take it seriously the argument is over

lucid locust
#

lmfaoo

zenith surge
#

this conversation might deadass be used in a science case study

obtuse zephyr
#

wait a year

somber hinge
#

actually wait

civic wagon
#

All Shall Sleep

somber hinge
#

@civic wagon WON THIS ARGUMENT ! EVERYBODY CHEER πŸ₯³

obtuse zephyr
#

bro i will major in psych

#

this will be data

verbal pivot
obtuse zephyr
#

ive studied this specific topic for 9 months

#

its interesting to look at

lucid locust
#

i havent even gotten to nyx on rigor

somber hinge
#

lowkey this is funny

lucid locust
#

yet

verbal pivot
vital idol
verbal pivot
#

like today?

obtuse zephyr
#

yeah

somber hinge
civic wagon
obtuse zephyr
#

idk the data feels a little biased

somber hinge
#

spear i think you're overanalyzing it

vital idol
#

They ruined the data by lying

obtuse zephyr
#

maybe epic isnt a fan of rigor, thus bruteforces himself to accomodate to the lack of flowstate in nyx

#

but people perfer gameplay over attaining flowstate, rather enjoyment

somber hinge
obtuse zephyr
#

which is weird, since flowstate is enjoyment, but you do you

verbal pivot
#

dont worry @lucid locust ill make a map for you

lucid locust
obtuse zephyr
#

yeah but whats your favorite portion?? huh?

civic wagon
#

Can Yall Just Lokwey Sleep Bro

#

Fr

vital idol
#

Can You All Start Typing With A Capital Letter At The Start Of Ever Word

civic wagon
verbal pivot
obtuse zephyr
#

wow this discussion was like tenfold more active than general LMAOO

bleak ore
#

Is this glaze ⁉️

lucid locust
#

i died to nyx minitower

somber hinge
lucid locust
obtuse zephyr
#

the best eternal is dystopia v4

somber hinge
#

look i drew rigor

lucid locust
#

0/10 ragebait lo

obtuse zephyr
#

no like, i am being deadass

#

i geniunely cannot do the lazer spinner

lucid locust
#

you might just suck at the game 😭

somber hinge
obtuse zephyr
#

the ammount of percision, calculation, and strategic awareness WHILE airdiving is disabled, thus making the spatial awareness having lackthereof

#

its like similar to the sin boss difficulty,

somber hinge
obtuse zephyr
#

which imo makes it like 7.03 eternal. not that hard of an eternal but a huge difficulty spike due to the insane amount of mind pressure onto a tough climax

civic wagon
#

this entire thing is just a clipfarm lowkey

somber hinge
#

back to back btw

obtuse zephyr
#

bro i tried drawing like kozui peak a year ago and it turned out so mid

somber hinge
#

made sure to choose the easiest angles i could

lucid locust
#

yea ok i cant be bothered to rebeat rigor anymore

verbal pivot
#

stop playing rigor

#

it is not that good

vague egret
#

RIIIIGOR

jovial anchor
#

Seeing someone get so easily ragebaited is lowk crazy

untold nest
#

ud, oa, nyx, and despair placement have to be ragebait

#

also lowkey rigor overrated in diff

#

its gen one of the easiest eternals to me

#

also tbiw is easy u just keep saying its trash and put yourself in that mindset so it becomes hard

lucid locust
#

Everything you say is ragebait

lucid locust
rose plank
#

truebait counter 2

#

truebait counter 3

untold nest
#

right...

silver willow
#

death corridor at 3 gotta be bait

silver willow
untold nest
#

wouldnt change my opinion at all

#

if ive got good progress or have beaten them its the same opinion

#

honestly if anything my opinion would be one of the best because im not swayed by different playstyles cuz everything easy

silver willow
#

hm

untold nest
#

also like nearly everyone who even plays tbiw gets all its difficulty from its gp when its literally not even hard

#

epics list proves that aswell, tbiw at 7.57 when its shorter with easier pace checks than structural which is 7.43

jovial anchor
#

Just looked at the old conversation what the fuck

#

there's no way that bait was this good

lucid locust
lucid locust
untold nest
#

yeah and rigors literally a consistency map????

#

its got like 0 pacing and 0 hard gp

lucid locust
#

Again

untold nest
#

i cant name one part of rigor that has anything considered hard for pacing compared to one of the maps below it

lucid locust
#

Not everyone is as skilled as you jorma

untold nest
#

yet again your also literally basing a map off of its cc gameplay

lucid locust
#

Complete control gameplay

untold nest
#

it would be fair if it was hard like twiw

#

tbiw

trail mauve
#

were still typing here

jovial anchor
#

ts top map forum discussion now

lucid locust
#

Jorma seems to think if he thinks tbiw is easy everyone should think its easy as well

untold nest
#

no just realistically my opinion is less swayed than yours when it comes to tbiw or smth

#

something with hard raw

lucid locust
#

Tbiw is really hard bro 😭

untold nest
#

tbiw raw is literally like wayyy easier than toww raw which is terri

lucid locust
#

I could not care less about etoh towers

untold nest
#

its comparative, realistically if your struggling with smth that has like rem raw then its crazy

lucid locust
#

You can't compare etoh to tria bro

#

It doesn't work

untold nest
#

i 100% can???

lucid locust
#

2 separate gameplay styles

untold nest
#

i can compare totbf mt and towayg to stuff like tbiw

lucid locust
#

You're not forced to speedrun towers

lucid locust
#

Are different

untold nest
#

towayg has hard pacing and hard raw

#

not hard raw like mid

lucid locust
#

Those aren't in actual etoh though

untold nest
#

ok but neither is toww

#

i never compared to an etoh tower did I?

lucid locust
#

If I'm being honest idk wtf toww is

untold nest
#

wiggly worm

jovial anchor
#

Tower of wiggly worm

lucid locust
#

Oh that

untold nest
#

rq what diff do you think twiw looks

jovial anchor
#

sorry for barging into this conversation but I personally think it looks terri even tho its like harder than tocr or something

untold nest
#

your not barging in, the point of a conversations to talk so its fine

lucid locust
#

Idk I haven't really played the map

untold nest
#

looks

lucid locust
#

Wouldn't it be like 7.6-7.7 around there

#

I genuinely don't know tbh

untold nest
#

its around sin diff

lucid locust
#

Is it?

untold nest
#

yeah

rose plank
#

if he says that you know damn well its way harder

lapis surge
#

Me and my 37 deaths in phase 3 in 2 ath completions

bleak ore
#

Reading this and seeing jormas pfp makes me unable to take anything serious

#

Holy shit what even is that😭

bleak ore
lapis surge
bleak ore
#

Nyx harder than rigor

lapis surge
#

if you extend the gameplay of an existing map it can only be harder lol

lapis surge
#

1st one was because i simply wasnt anywhere near as good as i am today

#

2nd was borderline unlucky with bugs

obtuse zephyr
#

A lot of the gameplay difficulty comes from the fact you can't stop on decently hard gameplay

#

also considering that if you had time like an etoh map the final stretch would hypermog

#

you wouldn't see these 3 lasts jumps on a cata unless your tower is aids

#

Sin gameplay isn't that hard it's like tofm difficulty aka high extreme

obtuse zephyr
lapis surge
jovial anchor
#

fell for it again award

obtuse zephyr
#

It's actually funny like

#

I just made up random shit on the spot that would kind of make sense if you're dumb

#

which makes it believable

#

"The motivation of the derelict predrop makes the towers the easiest part"

#

"The break in agitato 3.0 makes the map harder because it ruins your gameplay flowstate"

lapis surge
#

Lmao

obtuse zephyr
#

And I mean these things are technically true to a very small extent

#

Not where to like nyx is harder than rigor which makes it funny

lapis surge
#

I remember praising the breaks in agitato

#

Because at the time i didn't know practice tools existed and i was beating maps through trial and error

#

So if those breaks didnt exist my fingers would be gone

obtuse zephyr
#

How does agi break ur fingers

#

it's the most simple gp

#

Tbiw just gives you carpal tunnel with the first few jumps of the tower

lapis surge
#

I was bad at the game back then and i was barely surviving everything

#

The map felt fast

obtuse zephyr
#

I feel like final stretches that give you extra time are more stressful

#

my nerves were batshit insane on dark paths final stretch fe2 pillar final stretch and all my sin boss attempts I was failing easy jumps

lapis surge
#

I was super inconsistent in the sin bossfight

#

Every couple attempts i would loopfail different jumps

#

Sometimes the trussflicks, sometimes the lodge, sometimes the wrap around

obtuse zephyr
#

playing the boss in the real map is like 40x worse

#

My consistency was 50% and I died there ten times bro

#

50% on the practice map

#

Zero attempts I got the 2nd to last crystal lmao

#

Played so garbage for no reason

lapis surge
#

Because diamond fixed the bugs according to him

obtuse zephyr
#

The bugs don't mean anything

#

The gameplay is still the same

lapis surge
#

They 100% do when you want to win

#

Dying cause of a bug is the most infuriating moment

silver willow
#

So to give a little background, I love watching serek, I binge watch it. On average, I spend about 8 hours daily watching serek. It's my guilty pleasure. No one knows about this, as I keep it a good secret. One day when I was meant to be at school, I was watching some serek. My mom came in and was shocked, so she didn't see what I was doing. I hid my phone under my pillow and told her to leave. Because I was having a ####! I got away with it, but the same day I was around my girlfriends house and we were watching a movie. I was watching serek the whole time and I was so sneaky, she didn't notice. She was trying to make advances on me and she put her hand on my thigh. I didn't think much of it, and kept scrolling. She noticed that I was watching serek when I was watching "Serek Toilet 58 Fan Made", and suddenly my phones volume went up to the maximum out of nowhere. She immediately took her hand off my thigh and screamed, "Are you watching fucking serek?" I'm currently sitting on her porch, bawling my fucking eyes out. I don't know if i'll ever recover from this, but at least I have serek.

jovial anchor
#

nobodys reading ts twin

somber hinge
silver willow
rotund hearth
#

i find it super funny how 99% of the detail in tbiw you cant even see when youre actually playing the map

#

just flying around i notice so much shit thats usually out of sight

#

i cant decide whether the gp sucks or i suck

lucid locust
#

Gp sucks

rotund hearth
obtuse zephyr
#

It's both

#

The map is impossible and it's carpal tunnel gp

#
poll_question_text

IS NYX HARDER THAN RIGOR

victor_answer_votes

5

total_votes

9

victor_answer_id

1

victor_answer_text

Fuck Yes

#

WELL WELL WELL

lucid locust
#

ragebait

vital idol
#

I knew it!

rose plank
#

sex is top 1 uk i trust anything that comes out of her mouth

trail mauve
# obtuse zephyr WELL WELL WELL

56 - 100 on sonic wave is easier than 64 - 100 because you have time to ease into zenful alpha mode and unlock the third eye and lock the fuck in so you don’t fail

obtuse zephyr
obtuse zephyr
#

The turnip I worship

silver willow
#

😭 also mel is top 1 uk

wicked barn
#

No im top 1 uk

rotund hearth
#

was it not tested?

bleak ore
#

⁉️

rose plank
#

zawg gang

silver willow
#

?????

silver willow
#

Thats cool and all but we dont need to know that

finite tulip
#

a normal person

silver willow
finite tulip
#

?

rotund hearth
finite tulip
jovial anchor
#

Mr attcorey please keep ts to yourself

rotund hearth
#

mmmmmnn ion know

finite tulip
finite tulip
#

backpedaling now eh?

rotund hearth
random frost
#

be civil dawg

#

dont bring yo too freaky ahh here

silver willow
lucid locust
rose plank
#

almost there king

rotund hearth
#

finally got consistent at the hell first section of tower

lucid locust
bleak ore
obtuse zephyr
# bleak ore This looks so unfun

No, you see its fun because theres jumps and then you go Up and Up kinda similar to how a map works and maps are meant to be fun πŸ€”

bleak ore
#

Tbiw is fun up until the first tower because of the music

#

Everything else is ummmm

obtuse zephyr
#

fun and music has zero ties gng

bleak ore
#

Well i like the music until that point

#

And then the map falls off for meπŸ₯Ή

obtuse zephyr
#

its better in the tower

bleak ore
#

Not

obtuse zephyr
#

the map looks fun but I dont like how I cant Beat The Map

bleak ore
#

Meh

obtuse zephyr
#

it looks like it

bleak ore
#

Even if i could do the map i still wouldn't find it fun cuz of that nil tower pace

obtuse zephyr
#

you can have some fun practicing but im never getting past beginning

#

impossible spam 🀣 + ping death

bleak ore
#

Is it really ping reliant

obtuse zephyr
#

bro the first 3 seconds have a 35 milisecond pace window or something

bleak ore
#

Oh hell nah

obtuse zephyr
#

play it in multiplayer and it becomes rng

bleak ore
#

Unfun map

#

πŸ₯€ πŸ₯€ πŸ₯€ πŸ₯€ rng in maps

obtuse zephyr
#

yea i played servers with it and people constantly requed it because of ping deaths

bleak ore
#

Who made this map again

obtuse zephyr
#

maybe a skill issue but probably not since like tria spawns are really weird in multiplayer sometimes

bleak ore
#

Why do top 1s have rng in themnails

obtuse zephyr
bleak ore
#

And this is worse in multiplayer

obtuse zephyr
#

you can create the server yourself and it feels like your ping is worse in multiplayer

bleak ore
#

So pace intense maps like tbiw or dps are gonna be nil at the start (though dps has a different reason)

obtuse zephyr
#

have it being your region

#

dps button 1 multiplayer 😱

bleak ore
obtuse zephyr
#

give tbiw a button for every single jump and have it be unmissable

#

and it instantly deletes the platform you jumped off of so it kills everyone

bleak ore
obtuse zephyr
#

just spawn glitch smh

bleak ore
#

More rng required🀣 🀣

obtuse zephyr
#

Jus Hack

#

why is fbo communal rating below nos astra bro

#

can we make 7.99 Pls

bleak ore
lucid locust
obtuse zephyr
#

fbo is like The lowest rated eternal

bleak ore
obtuse zephyr
#

even though it's harder than ath

lucid locust
#

Impossible

bleak ore
#

Actually its hard to make good gameplay for maps past like 7

obtuse zephyr
bleak ore
lucid locust
#

Fbo is like 6.7
Haha get it

#

6 7

bleak ore
obtuse zephyr
lucid locust
#

Jokes aside fbo is 7.4 at least

bleak ore
obtuse zephyr
#

It's actually hidden top 1

bleak ore
#

Making actual bearable top 1 gp

lucid locust
lucid locust
obtuse zephyr
bleak ore
lucid locust
#

Yes

#

Rigor steamhappy

obtuse zephyr
#

Tbiw is 6.99 divine Malicious mechanics shadow top 1

lucid locust
#

😭😭😭

#

Genuinely

#

Good night

rose plank
#

road to 3k comments

random frost
#

the secret of the fucking mimic

rotund hearth
rotund hearth
bleak ore
#

Tower looks like bootycheeks

#

πŸ₯€ πŸ₯€

#

Also bought up music bec for me good map bgms/osts would make it a better playing experience

rotund hearth
#

"looks"

#

how about you play it bro πŸ’”

bleak ore
#

Uhhh no

#

Map is nil on console w controller

rotund hearth
#

then leave the thread bum

bleak ore
#

I dont play tbiw nor do I have any intent to

#

Or any map above like 8.0

rotund hearth
obtuse zephyr
#

turnip i worship

rotund hearth
obtuse zephyr
#

i died 16x last jump, x11 2nd to last jump, x35 third to last jump, x36 fourth to last jump

bleak ore
#

Torture

#

Thats going to be me hours later on sp

#

More grueling attempts on last section

#

I love procrastinating, I could've won by now but I hate loopfailing parts of a map i shouldn't be

rose plank
obtuse zephyr
#

Peak pillar 🀀🀀

#

Yo when is blexder uploading Ef Be Ohhhhhhh

rose plank
bleak ore
bleak ore
#

I remember looking at not xz video an someone said sp has fun gameplay

#

Uncanny no

#

Bro 2.8k msgs need another ragebait to push to 3000

leaden plover
bleak ore
#

no

rotund hearth
#

@lucid locust got consistency strat for this?

lucid locust
#

Nope

bleak ore
#

Just loopfail til u find a way

rotund hearth
#

i think ive only did this jump once

rotund hearth
#

finally got consistent at final stretch jumps

#

atleast the last two...

#

genuinely how do you do the first @rose plank

silver willow
#

Cam control

rotund hearth
#

thanks bro didnt know

#

just did it first try wtf

#

5X IN A ROW LOL

silver willow
#

See my advice works

rose plank
#

nvm it expired

rotund hearth
#

yeah

rose plank
rotund hearth
#

fitting into the gap is so hard

#

when should you turn your cam

rose plank
#

whenever you feel is right

#

just muscle memory

rotund hearth
#

do you think its the hardest jump in the map?

rose plank
#

on par with the second jump on the final stretch

#

apparently everyone thinks its the hardest jump though

rotund hearth
#

i need daem to make me a mommy darkskin avatar with a cool sword

rotund hearth
rotund hearth
#

i dont really like the way you do it

#

because then going into the next jump is awkward

#

its the only way i was able to do the jump though

rotund hearth
rose plank
rotund hearth
rose plank
rotund hearth
#

nahhh

rotund hearth
lucid locust
rotund hearth
#

GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

lucid locust
#

yea doing it this way is way more consistent]

#

lmao

rotund hearth
#

wait did you beat it?

lucid locust
#

no πŸ’€

rotund hearth
#

dang im kinda stupid

#

i havea question

#

when you first get on can you do the wj spam at the beginnign really fast

#

or doesa it take you a while to warm up

#

cause it always takes me atleast 30 minutes before my thumb begins to move fast

lucid locust
#

like i just got to ts2 first try today

rotund hearth
#

what is ts2

lucid locust
#

tower section 2

rotund hearth
#

this jump be killin me brraaaa

lucid locust
#

true

rotund hearth
#

im kinda ass today

rotund hearth
rose plank
#

ok

rotund hearth
#

so cute lol

rose plank
#

thats an interesting way to compliment but ill take it

rotund hearth
#

catteslas avatar gave me a buff

rose plank
#

tuff

rotund hearth
rose plank
#

firework

rotund hearth
#

alr

#

700 damn thats expensive

#

no ts2 run today but its fine igπŸ˜”

lucid locust
ocean beacon
#

rigor copied this clearly

#

v1 and v2 released before rigor

#

and v3

rose plank
#

ong

#

next tbiw update will include erebus at the end because the map is not hard enough to be top 1

worldly wind
#

nooooo

obtuse zephyr
rose plank
silver willow
wicked barn
#

sin vs tbiw lowkey the tosf vs coiv of this game

rotund hearth
#

shit is already top 1 icl

bleak ore
#

Everything that comes out of mints mouth❌ ❌ ❌

obtuse zephyr
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The Beat I Worship 🎡

bleak ore
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❓

obtuse zephyr
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The Radish I Worship :radish:

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no radish emoji i might asw die

rose plank
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almost at 3k

obtuse zephyr
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fbo forum at like 100 😒