#Project Drama - Black Mesa Roleplay

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spiral vale
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happy yet another 2026 addon with charts

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elder wraith
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Good looking chart

opal stump
modest shore
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Plus this version is Unfinished as all hell lol

opal stump
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😆

modest shore
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Best of luck on your future endeavors

Not gonna let Ordinance go to waste

opal stump
modest shore
opal stump
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Suit yourself.

modest shore
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I will, thanks

livid breach
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Well I think we all know who the friend is with the conflict 😂

Looks good though my man, keep up the good work 😊

modest shore
opal stump
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@modest shore I require your email for a legal inquiry.

modest shore
modest shore
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If you wanted me to make the schema open source you could've just asked

opal stump
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This is a formal notice.

You are currently presenting a project under the "Project Ordinance" name and implying ownership of work derived from a private repository you no longer have access to.

You do not have permission to use the Project Ordinance name or represent this work publicly.

You are required to:

  • Remove all references to "Project Ordinance"
  • Stop presenting this project under that name

If this project is made public or deployed using code obtained from the private repository, further action will be taken.

modest shore
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I came up with the Ordinance name, I created the graphical designs.

So by this account, and also the Canadian Law you need to remove my designs

modest shore
opal stump
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You're right that parts of this were developed together.

That doesn't give you the right to present the project as solely yours or continue using it under the same identity without distinction.

The original organization and repository were created and managed by me, and parts of the work within it are my individual contributions.

If you want to continue your own version, that's fine, but you need to:

  • clearly separate it from Project Ordinance
  • avoid implying ownership of the original project
  • remove any assets or work that were created solely by me

Right now you're presenting it in a way that's misleading, and that needs to be corrected.

modest shore
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You're doing this because you want to see me fail that's the only reason

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You left the project because you insulted my girlfriend to my face and i got pissed

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This is your fault Connor

opal stump
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This isn't about personal issues, so I'm not engaging with that.

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My concern is how the project is being presented publicly.

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Right now you are using the "Project Ordinance" name and presenting a continuation of the same project. Regardless of credits, that creates the impression that this is an official or direct continuation.

modest shore
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Project Ordinance is not copyrighted

opal stump
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I'm asking you to clearly separate your version from the original project identity.

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If you want to continue your own version, that's fine. It just needs to be clearly distinct and not misleading.

modest shore
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And where is the legal documentation that states the copyright?

opal stump
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Copyright applies automatically to original works like code and graphical assets. It doesn't require registration to exist.

modest shore
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Well shit idk how it works lmao

But I'm pretty sure, from what I know, you can't just force someone to stop using a name if it's not copyrighted

opal stump
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The project name itself isn't the main issue here. The issue is how the project and its work are being presented and used.

modest shore
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Okay okay, run through it with me once more.

How is it being presented

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From your perspective

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Because your name is very clearly credited

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And if I were to publicly open-source the schema, that would be fine since you open-source the schema as well

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All I would have to do is make a fork

opal stump
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Alright, I'll explain it clearly, if you would stop cutting me off.

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This isn't about the name being "copyrighted".

modest shore
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I'm not talking about the copyright anymore

opal stump
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The issue is how your version is presented. Right now you're using the same name and identity in a way that makes it look like a continuation or official version of the original project.

opal stump
modest shore
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We are texting just speak you monkey

opal stump
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Credits alone don't fix that. Someone looking at it can still reasonably think it's the same project.

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What I'm asking for is separation, not shutdown.

modest shore
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It is the same project, it was OUR project. You left it on your own accord

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I just continued what we started

opal stump
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If you continue your version, it needs to be clearly presented as an independent project, it shouldn't look like the official or direct continuation of Project Ordinance, anything I created individually shouldn't be reused without permission

modest shore
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But I created the name dude.

opal stump
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About open-sourcing. The current public version is under AGPL. That means forks are allowed, but they must, keep the license, provide source if used publicly, not remove attribution.

modest shore
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And it was never just your project it was ours

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Stop claiming that you're the only one who did anything

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It was never just yours, I had 50% ownership

modest shore
opal stump
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We never agreed on any kind of ownership split, so there is no "50% ownership" here.

modest shore
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Oh so now it's 'we didn't agree'

You're a fucking rat you know it

opal stump
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We worked on it together, yes. That doesn't mean either of us gets to present it as the same project after going separate ways.

modest shore
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I'll just do a fork

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And make it open source

opal stump
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If you base your work on the public version and follow the AGPL properly, that's fine.

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Also, keep it respectful. There's no reason to turn this into insults.

modest shore
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You know what you're doing you piece of shit. You just want to see me fail

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Stop pretending to be this victim here.

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I have people supporting me and this project, people who used to be your friends and now they are sick of you

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I'll do what you say, but don't forget this is your fault

opal stump
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I'm not continuing this conversation if it turns into insults.

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My position is already clear. If you base your work on the public version and follow the AGPL, that's fine. It just needs to be clearly your own independent project and not presented as the same or official continuation.

modest shore
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Then just leave because you know what you did

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You are a snake and a terrible person

opal stump
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Anything I created individually is not to be reused without permission.

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If you stick to that, there's no issue. I'm leaving it there.

modest shore
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Project Drama - Black Mesa Roleplay

livid breach
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Also this is not the place for such conversations

modest shore
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It's fine it's fine, I'm doing my best to try to just make the project I want for fun and so my friends can enjoy it, but can't have nice things

opal stump
modest shore
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People just want to see the world burn, as alfred said in the dark knight smugbunny

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We get it, you're a smart fello

livid breach
modest shore
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Alright even though we don't like ChatGPT and shit, I did make it do a deep research on the internet since it's kinda useful for that sort of this and I asked it this (see image provided) and it came out with this:

"No, he does not automatically get to say you can never use "Project Ordinance" at all just because the repo was under his name or because it wasn't copyrighted.
Yes, he may have a narrower argument if your use of the name makes people think your version is the official Project Ordinance or his continuation, or if you reused assets he personally authored."

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I genuinely needed an answer for this situation so I just asked AI to search for laws and shit

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Don't know if this holds up, someone can tell me if it does or doesn't

livid breach
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Either way, don’t use this place for conversations like such. Take it to the DMs chaps. This is a showcase place not a discussion board.

modest shore
livid breach
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I know but this definitely went out of control. Leave it there, continue that specific conversation somewhere else. As for the project. Both of you have done a splendid job. I hope one day it can be completed by either or both parties

modest shore
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I hope so too

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Drama post, ignore

modest shore
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okay? thats interesting to say the least

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Riggs is getting his goons to just say shit now?

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I'm done talking here, this is just immature lol

opal stump
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Don't even know him lol.

modest shore
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You know him too

opal stump
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legit never talked to him

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modest shore
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pfft

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Regardless, let's just close this case

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And move on with our lives

opal stump
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Don't use Ordinance as a name then.

modest shore
opal stump
modest shore
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Alright

opal stump
modest shore
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Mk

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You didn't make the name and just because you owned the repository doesn't make it your property

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All of this over Gmod is pretty immature

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If the cease and desist really does come with anything, I will take my leave

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I'm not as pathetic as you, I will use that as a way to finally quit playing Gmod

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Honestly might just quit now, since no one is as ridiculous enough as you to send a fucking cease and desist over a Garry's Mod project

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Fucking judge jury episode over here

surreal meteor
modest shore
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Nah yeah I quit, I can't believe we're doing cease and desists over Gmod in this day in age

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Fucking pathetic, seriously an embarassement for you @opal stump

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I'm deleting Ordinance, you can sleep easy now

modest shore
opal stump
vast dew
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soo how hard is it to follow license terms

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we are being fed tonight

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broken bridge
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where is that 💔

surreal meteor
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rate look

opal stump
vast dew
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it's to our benefit i suppose

broken bridge
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i saw that

surreal meteor
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RATE LOOOKKK

broken bridge
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10

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❤️‍🩹

surreal meteor
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okey. thanks. whats others?

vast dew
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11

surreal meteor
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rate look!!!!!!?

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okey i am glad thanks

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bonus picture unlocked

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thats all Good night

vast dew
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lurking and waiting for new messages about you is not something you do if you're quitting forever

opal stump
opal stump
broken bridge
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“I win.”

opal stump
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Unrelated.

spiral vale
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huge clickbait XDD

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raw pelican
visual crown
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wtf happened here 🙁

visual loom
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if the projects codebase is on the workshop im pretty sure its legally bound by the steam subscriber agreement

opal stump
scenic portal
hard canyon
surreal meteor
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can we add 18+ tits to gmod as default content in gmod?

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or here request already exists

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we need a legalize of NSWF

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server rules!!!!!

keen hedge
surreal meteor
visual crown
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Not acceptable
If riggs is quitting then he just should, instead of picking on people who try to continue without him