🍥．anime

[hazy lava]

Dont get me started on ts

[dark sonnet]

okay and why do you think the wn is the source material when you said that re0's original media isnt a wn earlier agreeing with me?

[desert thunder]

[agile turtle]

well there's a reason they say Praise the Fool!

[cosmic path]

😂

[daring jacinth]

@agile turtle you got alot of bestie

[agile turtle]

damn 🐢 finally got me

[hazy lava]

The wn is the one always getting written by the author directly the ln is essentially some washed toned down version and it doesn't necessarily have to be more refined it could be the opposite i only said ts to bait liesta

[desert thunder]

I was talking bout this but op got 600m+ now

[hazy lava]

U missed the show

[daring jacinth]

when was this?

[solid trellis]

🚫 🚫

[hazy lava]

It was like 5 hours ago or smthin

[cosmic path]

Give it a decade to surpass William Shakespeare

[agile turtle]

[solid trellis]

Send i will see it tomorrow

[desert thunder]

Trash art online

[solid trellis]

I'm immune to baits

[karmic path]

Crazy tbh

[solid trellis]

📸

[hazy lava]

On me

Sword ahhhh online

[agile turtle]

I have no baits

[cosmic path]

Not a bait unfortunately 🥀

[hazy lava]

I called jjk mid once and u were ready to throw hands with me

[daring jacinth]

lmao

[karmic path]

😭

[desert thunder]

Nah you would need to make all pirate fans actually buy a copy, if you count all the pirate style readers op is mostly on the first place on those sites too

[agile turtle]

M8

[dark sonnet]

no what, he writes the WN first and then rewrites/changes it for the LN, this means that the ln also represents his updated and finalized intent for the story?

[agile turtle]

you always trying to bait

[desert thunder]

Indeed

[agile turtle]

JJK is peak

[desert thunder]

Easy

[daring jacinth]

they call anything peak now

[dark sonnet]

i dont like jjk though

[cosmic path]

It is what it is in this modern era 🥀

[desert thunder]

Bumiyaa evolved

[solid trellis]

Made this 3x3 through the new anime soul bot

[cosmic path]

💀

[karmic path]

I mean for a manga it's Crazy and the Consistency is crazy I mean 27+ years

[storm basin]

Repeated one

💀

[karmic path]

Lmao I got 4 in common in my recent 3x3

[solid trellis]

Wtf i just noticed

[solid trellis]

Which

[hazy lava]

Nope if the wn was rlly a rough draft or half baked shit it wouldn't have released online nor would it be discussed frequently trust me no author likes to release his work being half baked the ln is literally owned by kadokawa these bums like changing alot of stuff

[daring jacinth]

youre very slow

[solid trellis]

Maybe cauz midnight

🥀

[agile turtle]

bro flax fell for Code Ballers bait

[desert thunder]

Lol bro worked 20/7 basically daily

[storm basin]

Blind fool

[agile turtle]

Siesta done passed the ball

[dark sonnet]

let me ask you a question then, if you consider the re0 ln to not cannon then the anime is not cannon according to you as wellright?

[hazy lava]

I never said the ln aint canon

[solid trellis]

Ban siesta from the server plz

[hazy lava]

U saying shit in my mouth

[solid trellis]

@slay

[karmic path]

Hori,tora,just because,Ouran

[cosmic path]

Why?

[karmic path]

Lmao

[solid trellis]

Tuff

[solid trellis]

He pmos

[karmic path]

Ty fam

[cosmic path]

🥀

[frigid kayak]

guys say a number 1-5 which is gonna determine the anime Im watching

[agile turtle]

3

[hazy lava]

7

[solid trellis]

67

[dark sonnet]

what...

[agile turtle]

oh god

[frigid kayak]

fuck it im watching code geass now

[hazy lava]

U get me

[karmic path]

Our Goat Oda, May God Give More Power To Write Peak

[karmic path]

Peak

[hazy lava]

I never said ln aint canon u straight up saying shi i never said

[karmic path]

😭

[dark sonnet]

let me define what cannon means for you okay. Canon=the officially accepted version of the story that is considered true within the fictional world

[frigid kayak]

I watched like 2 ep of it and then started a new anime😭

[desert thunder]

Bro already gets called Goda

[karmic path]

Noooo 😭💔💔

[desert thunder]

Bro

I was watching the vid

[frigid kayak]

Its ok I'll put dedication to watching it now

[steel crystal]

Amazing, @frigid kayak you leveled up to 1!

[karmic path]

[karmic path]

😭

[solid trellis]

No audio

[karmic path]

Alr nice

[hazy lava]

U saying stuff in my mouth again pull up a sentence of were i said ts

[karmic path]

I saw this clip somewhere in insta but forgor

[hazy lava]

By that logic lotm anime aint canon

[dark sonnet]

jiya what do you think is the source for re0? just curious

[solid trellis]

Ln

[dark sonnet]

kaiser what do you think is the official source for re0?

[solid trellis]

@desert thunder

[frigid kayak]

I got scammed 40 bucks by an indian scammer claiming to be lebron james

[solid trellis]

I support code whatever source u say is the real one

[hazy lava]

LMAO

[solid trellis]

Skill issue

[hazy lava]

I thought we were besties🥀

[tender shoal]

I apologise

[hazy lava]

I aint giving u zeni no more

[dark sonnet]

🔥

[hazy lava]

John microsoft

[frigid kayak]

give me back my money bro

[solid trellis]

nOOO

[dark sonnet]

😹

[tender shoal]

It's been spent already, I'm sorry

[frigid kayak]

its been 3 seconds💀

[frigid kayak]

how

[dark sonnet]

i'm asking you rn,which one do you think is canon? the wn or ln?

[agile turtle]

PEAK

[hazy lava]

This aint the discussion

[tender shoal]

Tier 3 Twitch Subscribers for Pokimane

[hazy lava]

They are both canon but the original material is the wn

[uncut spade]

you ever have them moments in life looking back and think to yourself... wtf..? Why..?

[karmic path]

Hmm

[karmic path]

😭😭😭💔💔

[dark sonnet]

how can they both be cannon if sequence of events happen differently in them? + the

[frigid kayak]

🥹 we deadahh?

[hazy lava]

Bro what

[hazy lava]

Is this guy deadass

[hazy lava]

Ts is like saying lotm anime aint canon cuz they cut stuff that was in the wn

Same thing the ln cut stuff from the wn of re0

[frigid kayak]

like honestly Idk if Im ever gonna have time watching it I have like 50 other animes to finish😭

[karmic path]

😭

[fluid pebble]

Can we talk about how bad re zero is , people think the idea is unique while it's just stolen from other animes like one piece

[dark sonnet]

the anime is a adaptation of the source material, what i'm saying is if both of these are considered to be the one story of which is cannon then it doesnt line up cuz they contradict each other

[hazy lava]

Contradict in what way bum they key events are the same its just one has extra shit and one doesn't

Take wns and manhwas for example

[dark sonnet]

i'm saying that the ln is the refined version bro

the author himself rewrites what happens in the story of the wn

[hazy lava]

Cutting stuff out doesn't equal refined

[frigid kayak]

you guys should really read liar game fr

[dark sonnet]

he doesnt just cut stuff out,he adds stuff in as well

[dark sonnet]

already read

solid

dont like the ending

[frigid kayak]

aww man

[hazy lava]

He aint the one doing the cuts

Its kadokawa

[frigid kayak]

read tomodachi games?

[hazy lava]

Am tired of ts

[hazy lava]

I did

[autumn fulcrum]

@fringe sluice

[dark sonnet]

how are you going to prove that its kadokawa though? i can prove that its written by the author himself

The Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- light novel series is written by Tappei Nagatsuki.

[hazy lava]

@dark sonnet codler stop sucking kadokawa's and the lns dihh ur opinion doesn't have to be right

[fluid pebble]

Like actually

Re zero fans need to get a life

[frigid kayak]

ohho thats tuff

[dark sonnet]

what i'm saying is that my opinion isnt right but that is the conventional opinion 🥀

[hazy lava]

Ur legit typing ts to prove that ur opinion has to be always right

Not to actually understand

[dark sonnet]

bro i'm asking you question to understand rn

but i cant 🥀

[dark sonnet]

idk what else to do

[hazy lava]

A conventional opinion that ur assuming based on sales only

[dark sonnet]

well thats a fair metric no? people are paying money for it and reading it and experiencing it?

[fluid pebble]

I don't get why people are lying to them selves bro

[royal skiff]

||For now at least||
It's Muffin Time!
Iykyk

[hazy lava]

No its not

Movies have alot of sales and they aint good

Sales only means nothing

[dark sonnet]

its not about whether its good or not, its about whether you consider that story to be the canon story in that universe

and i sent the definition of canon earlier

The officially accepted version of the story that is considered true within the fictional world

[hazy lava]

Thats ur opinion bro

[dark sonnet]

wdym bro what else does canon mean flax 🥀

[hazy lava]

U cant just say 1 is canon and 1 aint based on sales

By that logic lotm wn is canon and the anime ain't

[dark sonnet]

yeah the lotm wn is def the source material and should be considered the cannon

china is diff

[autumn fulcrum]

I see that Alcor and Flax
Eat a penis

[dark sonnet]

the wn culture goes hard

[sterile charm]

are we still dbeating

[dark sonnet]

everything that is made on lotm uses the wn as the main source

[hazy lava]

You first

[sterile charm]

top 5 most useless anime debates

[hazy lava]

Doesn't mean the anime aint canon too and fym china is diff

[sterile charm]

lowk just farming exp

[autumn fulcrum]

Solo Leveling better than Jjk

[sterile charm]

thats not even debate thats just wrong

[hazy lava]

Didn't even get 1 level

[sterile charm]

ur already a high level

i think code baller farming exp tho

[dark sonnet]

the anime is based off of the wn

it uses the wn as the source

[sterile charm]

lotm doesnt even got a ln bro

tf you mean

[dark sonnet]

and tries to remain faithful to it

[harsh eagle]

This.

[dark sonnet]

read what i wrote again

[autumn fulcrum]

Btw, is lotm any good?

[sterile charm]

bro wasnt ur orginal idea that wn is more source then ln or something

[sterile charm]

yes

its solid 8/10 or 9/10

[dark sonnet]

vro is d1 ragebaiting 🔥

[sterile charm]

and very intresting

[sterile charm]

ur the only 1 ragebaiting

just drop the debate gng

[hazy lava]

And solo leveling got both a manhwa and wn and the anime adapts from the manhwa doesn't mean the wn aint canon

[frigid kayak]

Does anyone wanna hear about my manga Im working on fr?

[sterile charm]

why is this guy telling the truth

[hoary lake]

Technically it is

It more so depends on the author

[hazy lava]

Wn yes anime kinda

[hoary lake]

It’s officially recognized so it is on its own right

[dark sonnet]

The primary material is the Korean web novel and webtoon, with the anime adaptation focusing on the fantasy action-adventure storyline, as reported by Cocotame. - according to gemini

[worldly tusk]

ik ur gonna ask the wont read it anyway

[hazy lava]

Thats the primary material for the anime not the primary material overall

[sterile charm]

think of sherlock holmes+victorian era great britain mixed with jjk and alot of lore and worldbuilding

also crazy animation

[hazy lava]

The manhwa got its primary material from the wn

[sterile charm]

does this debate even matter

[dark sonnet]

i think its best to end the debate here

cuz we are running in circles rn

[hoary lake]

I’m Crine

[hazy lava]

i gave u multiple examples u just want ur opinion to be in the right no matter what

[sterile charm]

thats a good summary of season 1 with out spoiling what happens

[hoary lake]

These people are running around in circles with semantics

[sterile charm]

i havent read thw wn so idk

[hoary lake]

Sherlock Holmes bro

Cmon

For s1 too

[dark sonnet]

what examples man 🥀 your bringing up stuff thatsnot from japan rip

[sterile charm]

its like the closest thing

[hazy lava]

Code sucking the lns dihh

[sterile charm]

also isnt s2 sherlock holmes basicaly

[hoary lake]

Sherlock moriarty

Son

[sterile charm]

ye

[hazy lava]

Just like that DS movie

[sterile charm]

same shi

[hoary lake]

Different game

[hoary lake]

No

[hazy lava]

Same thing son

[hoary lake]

Sherlock moriarty better

[sterile charm]

bro didnt even try to make a good name

[hazy lava]

They both got animes

[hoary lake]

Ts is fire ahh name

We glazing anything Klein does

[sterile charm]

morriete and moriarty basicaly the same

[dark sonnet]

sure but thats not the industry norm, you need to understand that + lom is a donghua thats not even a anime

[hazy lava]

Define anime

[sterile charm]

nah he had no aura outside of mr fool

in s1

[hoary lake]

Flax is right

[sterile charm]

flax is right

[dark sonnet]

🥀

wait

[hazy lava]

Maybe

[hoary lake]

You can still apply examples from different regions unless you point out differences

It’s a universal thing

[hazy lava]

And solo leveling is handled by a Japanese studio

[sterile charm]

anime is the for word animation in japanese

[dark sonnet]

the culture in china is highly web novel centric, its not the same in japan i believe

[sterile charm]

its also what japanese animation is called in the west

[hoary lake]

What difference does it make

[hazy lava]

@dark sonnet code go sleep

[hoary lake]

Japan has a shit ton of wns btw

Way way more than lns

[sterile charm]

ye

[hoary lake]

Shit ton in comparison to lns

It’s like a baby compared to Korea and China

[sterile charm]

lns are just succesful wns in japan

[hazy lava]

He will tell u to get stats

[dark sonnet]

bro thats a first time thing where they adapt stuff from koreana and it works out tho 🥀

[hoary lake]

Fah

[sonic vessel]

FAH!!!

[hoary lake]

Fahhhh

[sterile charm]

orv anime gonna be peak
(larp)

[dark sonnet]

your using the exception as the industry standard

[hazy lava]

Go sleep code u too high on dat eid cookies

[hazy lava]

We dont have high hopes for ts

[hoary lake]

Never happening

[sterile charm]

looks like it

[torn rain]

Im going offline for two three days

[hoary lake]

Orv only gets good at last 50 chapters btw

[dark sonnet]

which studio is behind it again?

[torn rain]

See you later guys

[dark sonnet]

a1?

[sterile charm]

i dont know?

[dark sonnet]

flax should know

[dark sonnet]

@hazy lava

[sterile charm]

then ask flax buddy

[hoary lake]

Is it finally done

We did two hours each

[daring jacinth]

havent been announced

[hoary lake]

Substitute ahh convo

Should’ve stopped 30 minutes in ngl

[dark sonnet]

ah they still dilly dallying over that

[hazy lava]

Yes code doesn't want to understand anything and just wants his sole opinion to be right so

[daring jacinth]

they might already have one

[hoary lake]

[dark sonnet]

i'm trying to use metrics for stuff but i havent seen any metric from you about the wn

idk what else to say

[frigid kayak]

Jim Moriarty..... HI😃

[hoary lake]

Metrics, metrics and more metrics

[dark sonnet]

give me something tangible that i can look at and be like okay this is a valid point

[hoary lake]

Metrics are fallible

Can’t represent many things

They are as they should be

[dark sonnet]

am i supposed to go off of nothing then

🥀

[hoary lake]

Treated as business

[hazy lava]

Aint confirmed

[dark sonnet]

fuck the metrics, and fuck everything

[fervent breach]

hi

[sterile charm]

i need mrbeast to donate to studio shaft so they can animate off and monster

[fervent breach]

how are yall

[hoary lake]

People have been doing this one thing for over two thousand

[sterile charm]

good

[hoary lake]

And it doesn’t involve metrics

[hazy lava]

Metrics that dont prove anything

[hoary lake]

:/

[hazy lava]

Exactly now go sleep

[dark sonnet]

man i'll never understand you guys and your points ngl

🥀

[hoary lake]

Maybe you should first look at the irrationality of using stats here

[sterile charm]

im crine bro spent hours to proof wns are more canon then lns

[hazy lava]

Ye pack it up code u aint built for ts

[dark sonnet]

you just call everything that can measure something as fallible or some, then humans shouldnt even try to measure stuff cuz everything is just fallible in the end

[hoary lake]

There are ways to prove it

[hoary lake]

😭

No

This is like

[hazy lava]

Ts the same reason pranav also doesn't like arguing with u

[hoary lake]

If I don’t like race X sue to not liking a Y amount of people from race X

I’m still not justified for this

Sue to not having seen everyone from group X

I don’t have justification

Similarly for stats

[dark sonnet]

if the world was that simple and easy then racism wouldnt exist siesta

[hoary lake]

There are many areas where you cannot use them justifiably

[hoary lake]

This is why I’m explaining it to you

So the world can have one more intelligent person

[dark sonnet]

bro i think i'm happy being where i am ngl

🥀

i understand the whole everything being subjective bit

which is technically true

[hoary lake]

No

[dark sonnet]

but idk man i'm not satisfied with that

[hoary lake]

It’s not subjective if you know everything

Fah

[hoary lake]

There is entire discourse on this

Mate

It’s not all subjective

Something can be true within set definition

This doesn’t involve stats

For example

If literature we assume to be a medium that takes up words as its canvas

Then by definition it contains words

This is logically provable

Without any proof

By definition

[dark sonnet]

its like saying domestic gf is a shitty show cuz all the ppl i've met call it bad. but then theres this secret bunch who like domestic gf so it cannot objecitvely be called a shitty show

cuz every media we consume is subjective!

typa arguement

which is true

[hoary lake]

No

[dark sonnet]

but comeon lets be real domestic gf is ass

[hoary lake]

This is like saying anime is bad

But you don’t consume every anime

Totally different concepts

[autumn fulcrum]

And NSFW

[hoary lake]

Yes

I’ve literally written tens of thousands of words on this in gamble soul already 😭

[hazy lava]

@swift fulcrum

[hazy lava]

@ruby star

[hoary lake]

This convo has been rinsed and dried so many times

[dark sonnet]

but i like domestic gf so that cannot be true! you just haven't met ppl who liked domestic gf siesta 🔥 (i dont acc like it, im saying this for fun rn)

[hoary lake]

I claim you are wrong

See

I dont neex do experience every domestic girlfriend fan to say it’s bad

I need to experience the show

While for people and things

To make a universal claim I need to experience ALL of it

If I claim anime is bad I would need to watch all anime for my claim to hold weight

You can understand the logic through this

This is just the bare minimum justification in general

[agile turtle]

YALL still on ts

[dark sonnet]

i dont think you can claim "domestic gf is bad", you can say that "I dont like domestic gf" if we were to be real technical about it!

[hoary lake]

I can’t prove it

[hazy lava]

Ts why we all should pipe down

[agile turtle]

Ts is too good

[hoary lake]

I can

[autumn fulcrum]

Yall need to stop mentioning D GF, it's NSFW

[hoary lake]

I experienced the work

I’m not experiencing the fans

lol

[dark sonnet]

yeah, but how are you going to objectively say that its poor quality when there's ppl out there that think its a masterpiece

you just haven't met them yet

you can say that you dont like it

which is valid

[hoary lake]

Maybe I have

Logic is the way

My friend

I’m not god

[agile turtle]

PEAK FMAB EDIT

[hoary lake]

I can not claim objectivity as in the actual thing

I can make objective claims

This doesn’t mean it’s objectively true

I’m just claiming it is

It might be true

[dark sonnet]

🥀

bro your one tricky guy ngl

[hazy lava]

NO NOT TS DISCUSSION

ANYTHING BUT TS

NOOOOO

[agile turtle]

I knew it

[hoary lake]

This is not a simple question that can be summed down to a few words

[dark sonnet]

bro i think i had enough ngl

[agile turtle]

he's back to the philosophical angle

[dark sonnet]

🥀

[hoary lake]

This is only the 15th time

Son

Baller had enough after 2 people and 4 hours

[hazy lava]

We had debates about subjectivity and objectivity in gamble soul 10 times

[hoary lake]

Siesta had enough after 1 hour and flax in sight

[hazy lava]

And both had paragraph long replies

[agile turtle]

lmao I'm used to these kinda debates

[hazy lava]

We aint doing ts here

The server is not ready

[agile turtle]

we used to have them all the time on the kinds of servers I used to be on

[dark sonnet]

bro idk why but siesta gives me the kind of feeling that he's the type that says "reality is subjective"

[hoary lake]

I’m Crine

I’m Crine

I’m Crine

[agile turtle]

your reality is subjective

[hoary lake]

I’m Crine

I’m Crine

[agile turtle]

But reality itself has objectivity to it

[hoary lake]

Gojo bro just revolutionized philosophy

[agile turtle]

otherwise we wouldn't have order

[dark sonnet]

bro i've met those pesky fuckers 🥀

[hazy lava]

Ur mood and likings change on a whim and thats for most ppl so could be

[dark sonnet]

bro 🥀

[hoary lake]

No, but I’m heavy into the idea that our perception is subjective enough

[dark sonnet]

oh no flax 🥀

[hoary lake]

Meaning experience

[agile turtle]

our personal ontogies are formed from subjective insights, experiences, language, culture, history, ideologies, etc

[hazy lava]

Animazing aint ready for that subjective and objective debate yet

And it will need kitsy

[hoary lake]

There has been writings on this

Very extensive topic

[agile turtle]

ts is true

[hoary lake]

Has an entire field dedicated to it

Like

You could study this for your entire life

[dark sonnet]

guys 🥀

[karmic path]

This turned out looking ugly idk why

[hoary lake]

Do you remember when everyone ignored ichigoat when he was trying to join

Extremely funny

[agile turtle]

now if people are talking about objective stuff then you could say that certain observations/ideas have been certified as objectively true with a high degree of confidence

Like physics

[hoary lake]

Bud thought he was Einstein

[hoary lake]

There’s no such thing

They rely on assumptions

First

We believe our experience is true

[agile turtle]

oh you're going the presupposition route

[hoary lake]

Mm

[hazy lava]

YES BRO LMAO

[hoary lake]

Yeah, not to say objectivity can’t exist

I can say 1+1 is objectively true due to its defined rules

I don’t need experience to verify it

[dark sonnet]

reality is objective trust

[agile turtle]

Whether or not we subjectively believe in physics doesn't mean there aren't people who can use its ideas in a useful manner

[hoary lake]

Yes

[agile turtle]

you could be a flat earther all you want

[hoary lake]

There is a fine difference

[hazy lava]

How can it be objective when ur mood and likings literally change on a whim or influenced by surrounding

[hoary lake]

You cannot in the same sphere of logic

It’s quite a complex field

Like

[dark sonnet]

if someone dies in front of you then he just died, there is no way you can subjectively change that trust

[agile turtle]

true

[hoary lake]

😭

[hazy lava]

Ur life is definitely subjective tho

[hoary lake]

How do I know someone died though

Am I sure someone died

How do you know that

[worldly tusk]

U slide horimiya then big 3 and aot

Mid

[agile turtle]

If a bear shits in the woods and no one hears or sees it, did it really happen? @dark sonnet

[dark sonnet]

if you see a green apple in front of you then thats a green apple, you can try and program yourself to think that its caled red and not green but that color you see in front of you is distinct and you cannot change how it looks no matter how much you try

[hazy lava]

Ts some manhwa plot ik it

[hoary lake]

You know

[hazy lava]

U cant but some ppl actually could

[hoary lake]

There’s a fine theory on how all of reality is shaped by the mind meaning nothing can exist without it

[agile turtle]

guys let's throw Shrödinger's cat back into the box

[hoary lake]

And it proves external reality through religion

[agile turtle]

yah this is a Platonic idea

[hoary lake]

Was just reminded of it

[hoary lake]

No, no, no

I was referring to subjective idealism basically

[agile turtle]

yes trace that back

It goes back to Plato

[dark sonnet]

yes cuz if you go looking around for it then your going to find it!

[hoary lake]

It’s very distinct from Plato

[dark sonnet]

assuming you know that bears shit

it def must be somewhere!

[karmic path]

Bro I told u it didn't turn out well

[dark sonnet]

we have 8 planets in the solar system

the earth is not flat

[agile turtle]

you can say that but this line of thought can be traced all the way back to Plato's Theory of Forms

it's just a different spin on this premise essentially

[dark sonnet]

damn bros are on real philosophy rn 🥀

[worldly tusk]

Hmmm agreed

[hoary lake]

I’m not sure

[dark sonnet]

isn't this supposed to be anime chat

🥀

[hoary lake]

You can’t credit Plato with the mind-reality relations 🥀

Idealism here is a theistic philosophy because it grounds its reality in god

It’s totally different

[agile turtle]

not really

[hoary lake]

Mm

[karmic path]

Ye but tbh Horimiya is one of my fav romance

[hoary lake]

Rhat we know

[agile turtle]

You gotta look at those Theologians who came up with these ideas

they were huge Greek Philosophy nerds

[hoary lake]

Wdym

They read philosophy before

Like everyone else

Who else do they read

[agile turtle]

and then changed older ideas to fit their theistic beliefs

[hoary lake]

That’s disingenuous

[hazy lava]

Dont bring ts up infront of jiya

[hoary lake]

They didn’t change

They invented

[agile turtle]

Just like they did with the Christmas tree which was originally Yule worship

[dark sonnet]

dont tell me she has a bachelors in philosophy as well 🥀

[hoary lake]

Socrates edits

[hazy lava]

She has an ai vid of sokrates twerking

[agile turtle]

LMAO

[hoary lake]

No, she just posts cringy edits

[hazy lava]

On me

[agile turtle]

it's like the concept of the wheel

[hoary lake]

Good thing

[hazy lava]

@dark sonnet genuinely asking are u on a joint?

[hoary lake]

Plato invented the wheel while the rest made cars

[dark sonnet]

why is this relevant flax 🥀

[sterile charm]

the wheel isnt a concept

[hoary lake]

Not really comparable

[sterile charm]

its a real thing

[agile turtle]

Even if someone invents a new type of wheel it borrows on intellectual ideas that predate their invention

[hazy lava]

Answer the question dont duck

[dark sonnet]

i'm not on them rn

😭

[agile turtle]

Rn the wheel is merely a metaphor

[hazy lava]

Rn

Does that mean u were on them beforw

[sterile charm]

hmm ok

[hoary lake]

It’s more like they build a car off of it

[agile turtle]

even the car builds off the premise of a carriage

[hoary lake]

I’m not saying it isn’t

[dark sonnet]

ngl idk what the point is but gojo bro is cooking with those examples

[hoary lake]

Just highlighting pioneering

[sterile charm]

song choice is a w

[agile turtle]

replace the horse with an engine+transmission

[hoary lake]

Every person after pioneers

You can’t accredit it all to one aspect

They have to create

To pioneer

[worldly tusk]

Mid

[hoary lake]

This is a natural trait

[agile turtle]

It's a continuous chain of pioneering

[worldly tusk]

[hoary lake]

Yes

[agile turtle]

this is what we are good at

Adaptation

[hoary lake]

They go far beyond

Sometimes not

[karmic path]

Bruh... Ykw I appreciate ur opinion everyone got their individual taste yk gotta respect urs too

[hazy lava]

@dark sonnet answer blud

[hoary lake]

Really hard

[sterile charm]

domestic gf is like top 2 shows oat behind rent a gf of course

[agile turtle]

Funny enough nature rewards those capable of adaptation through survival

[worldly tusk]

Ur no fun dude

[dark sonnet]

😭

[worldly tusk]

Get ragebaited

[dark sonnet]

idk bro

[dark sonnet]

🔥

[karmic path]

I won't ima Chill lil Capybara

[karmic path]

I'm fun

[sterile charm]

humans don't adapt i think we are just to smart

[dark sonnet]

🔥

[agile turtle]

we finally derailed the debate

By pivoting to philosophy

GG guys

[sterile charm]

Code might be on to something just cuz u agree with that take i think your correct on ur previous take

[dark sonnet]

what is the source material for re0!

[hoary lake]

Adapt is a weird word

Growth is a much more uh

[hazy lava]

Ofc u glazing rgf

[hoary lake]

Better sounding somewhat

[agile turtle]

It's originally a web novel iirc

[hoary lake]

I think

We’re at this again now

[hazy lava]

@dark sonnet HEHEHEBEHEBE

[sterile charm]

its not realy adapt means to get used to and overcome challenges by changing with the enviroment or circumstances

[dark sonnet]

this guy is switching sides lke a gecko bro

[agile turtle]

yah I just looked it up

[dark sonnet]

i askedthis question to him twice

[hazy lava]

Nah yous gay

[agile turtle]

Re:Zero is a Web Novel

[dark sonnet]

he said ln the first time

🥀

[hoary lake]

Growth and adapt are interchangeable here I think

[sterile charm]

re zero is a webnovel first and light novel second

[hazy lava]

I will reveal ur rgf lore for ts

[hoary lake]

Gojo bro just got more knowledgeable btw

By talking to me

It happens

I’m sorry

[agile turtle]

True.

[sterile charm]

for humans ya cause our technological growth is tied with our adaptability to the enviroment so ya

[agile turtle]

Is that so.

I see.

[hoary lake]

I think I’ve read an interesting quote

We’re holding ourselves back from further progression by not going beyond what we are taught and do

[agile turtle]

@dark sonnet

[hoary lake]

Fah

[sterile charm]

i think we should stop progressing

[hoary lake]

Bros pulling out google

For epistemology

[agile turtle]

so earlier when you asked

[hoary lake]

Uh

This is insanely difficult

[hoary lake]

Absolutely

[sterile charm]

the tech is gonna turn us into fat bums like in wall e if we continue like this

[agile turtle]

I thought you were asking about where the anime is adapting it from

[dark sonnet]

read the difference part 🥀

[agile turtle]

Which would be the LNs

[hoary lake]

Humanity invented the atom bomb but didn’t realize its implications

Still wants to create stronger ones

🥀 🥀

[agile turtle]

But the LNs aren't the original source material those are adapted from the WN

[sterile charm]

atoms bombs are kinda double sided coin

[dark sonnet]

flax... 🥀 dont do this

[hoary lake]

There are three answers to this

[cosmic path]

Exposed in 4k 💀

[agile turtle]

but even then the LNs leave out details

[dark sonnet]

let me send you something in dms

[sterile charm]

cause now no big super powers want to fight so they are having a cold war which takes the lives of bystanders but its also on the other side kinda allows for peace cause pepole don't wanna wipe humanity but there is always the risk of someone pressing the first button

[agile turtle]

The WN acts more like an ongoing draft

[hazy lava]

@agile turtle bro legit the only thing i benefited irl from maths major is how to align the cookie with the perfect angle in the tea so it doesn't break

[hoary lake]

1 - commercially
2 - as a product
3 - by law

[hazy lava]

I got way more

[hoary lake]

It’s just the nuclear bomb for now

What if we create something more powerful

lol

As we keep progressing

Not like it will stop

[sterile charm]

i watched a video about a guy who wanted to make a bomb that would wipe humanity

[hoary lake]

But progression must be met with understanding before it continues without it

[sterile charm]

like a egg of multiple bombs that would kill all live

but the US goverment denied it

[hoary lake]

Cluster?

Wdym

[sterile charm]

I think so

[hoary lake]

Are you talking about icbm

Weird abbreviation

The us and Russia could just spam nukes everywhere

Easy enough

If you’re talking about that

[near widget]

siesta still talking here 💀

[sterile charm]

wait im sending

[agile turtle]

@hoary lake Ayo Code Baller brought me up to speed in DMs

[hoary lake]

Now you’re converted

[agile turtle]

well not really

[agile turtle]

It's a matter of perception

[near widget]

still same argument about wn and ln?!!?!?

[agile turtle]

Cause tbh if you prefer the nitty, gritty, detailed, graphic, unedited version then you'd like the WN

The LN is obviously more mainstream

[sterile charm]

peak mentioned

[hoary lake]

Everything is

[hazy lava]

Is AS that dry u starting to lurk here

[agile turtle]

Yes

[hoary lake]

Lns and wns of the current day are fine

[hoary lake]

Well

Not everything

[sterile charm]

no now we moved on pylosphy and atomic bombs

[hoary lake]

Nor is all the same

There is much talk of this

[near widget]

yes

[hoary lake]

Millions upon millions of words

Corpses of baller piled upon the fields of logos

[hazy lava]

Atleast we aint got jthev

[agile turtle]

Oh we circling back to it now

@dark sonnet brought me up to speed

[hoary lake]

Jthev

Why does gojo bro keep saying this

[near widget]

W

[hoary lake]

Is he ballers dog now

[agile turtle]

no

I disagree with some his ideas

[sterile charm]

baller left the chat

[hoary lake]

If I had a nickel for every time gojo bro said baller got him to speed I’d have two

Which isn’t a lot

[agile turtle]

He seems to think the WN isn't canon just cause the LN is more Canon

[hoary lake]

But it’s happened twice

[hazy lava]

He is older than me and u combined so i think calling him a dog is a bit disrespectful icl

[hoary lake]

I think they’re all canon in their own right

[agile turtle]

then I'd probably agree with you more

[hazy lava]

They are both canon the wn has more dialogues and shit and the ln cuts some stuff and tones down the brutal scenes

[hoary lake]

I call older historical figures dogs

Nothing of that sort

[agile turtle]

Yes

[dark sonnet]

my idea is that there can only be 1 cannon

[sterile charm]

there can't be 1 canon

[hoary lake]

Nobody on discord is old enough for respect

[hazy lava]

Gay idea

[sterile charm]

cause theres multiple media adaptations of a single thing

[agile turtle]

well no it's just that the LN is more Canon in regard to the Manga/Anime

[hazy lava]

Exactly

[hoary lake]

There are three ways to look at how valid something is

[dark sonnet]

but everything can be traced back to that same thing

[agile turtle]

this actually simplifies things

[hoary lake]

I’ve talked about this five times now

[sterile charm]

its like saying the anime adaptation of r0 isnt canon cause it aint the source material

[agile turtle]

Same with the manga

[hoary lake]

First, define canon

[sterile charm]

source material buddy is diffrent from canon

[dark sonnet]

canon = The officially accepted version of the story that is considered true within the fictional world.

[sterile charm]

source material is what a adaptation is based on and canon is what is currect to the story

[agile turtle]

if his argument was around which is more Canon and for what reasons it would make sense

[dark sonnet]

@hoary lake

[sterile charm]

not a single version many variations of a single version

[agile turtle]

but he disregards the canonicity of the WN

his idea is that there can only be one true canon

[sterile charm]

bro its liked the censored version and uncensored version

[dark sonnet]

i'm not disregarding it though, i'm saying that its a draft typa deal

[sterile charm]

Ln and Wn are basicaly like that

[hazy lava]

Exactly

[sterile charm]

drafts are canon if the authors says they are bro

[hoary lake]

Which dictionary do you want to use

[sterile charm]

they arnt even drafts

they are posted on website for consumption

thats not a draft

thats finished product

[agile turtle]

The WN itself is more like a final draft than a rough draft but the LN is like the final, final polished draft

[hoary lake]

I can literally run semantics on this all day

Philosophymaxxing

[dark sonnet]

bro a lot of semantics going on fr

🥀

[agile turtle]

we ended up circling back to the same discussion

[hoary lake]

Like, you can make an entire discourse on what counts as real

😭

[dark sonnet]

😭

[hoary lake]

This is why I hate semantics

[sterile charm]

cause code baller doesn't want to admit hes wrong

[hazy lava]

On me

[hoary lake]

Final polished draft for commercial use

There is a bit of a difference

[agile turtle]

@hoary lake tried to like 2 hours ago just to see if the convo would die

[dark sonnet]

bro i'm the type who would happly admit im wrong if i sense that is truly the case 🥀

[agile turtle]

Yes

[sterile charm]

its good convo i like getting exp

[hazy lava]

U would have did so 4 hours ago

[agile turtle]

a lot of ts is to appease publishers/distributors so they can make $$$ from the WN

[agile turtle]

we all just farming exp over here

[sterile charm]

yep

[dark sonnet]

bro your forgetting the whole gs incident remember where i publicly apoligized to you cuz i was wrong about some drama? you should know i'm not that type

[sterile charm]

i cant prove it but @dark sonnet just farming exp atp

[hazy lava]

@dark sonnet aint it 5 am for u rn?

[dark sonnet]

if you can make me think what your saying is reasonable then im game

[hoary lake]

Commercially - whatever the publisher says is the answer
Product - it is legit as a product and cannot be denied that
Law - it is recognized by law as an official work thus having official status due to copyright thus meaning all are official

[dark sonnet]

12:44 am

[hoary lake]

This literally started from this

[hazy lava]

That was on random slang what about the DS discussion then

[hoary lake]

We used the word “official”

Canon and official are different things

😭

[sterile charm]

gng hes saying that the wn is as valuable as the Ln how is that not resonable

[dark sonnet]

i needed to be more precise

i said it casually ig

[hoary lake]

It’s because we’re basically just talking about the definition

It needs to be

[dark sonnet]

i'm not saying its not valuable bro 🥀 i'm not sayig its worthless

[hazy lava]

Eating ts while spectating

[hoary lake]

Is that milk

Tf is that

[hazy lava]

Tea with milk

[sterile charm]

ur saying its less canon then Ln and shouldnt be taken into account

?

[hoary lake]

Oh

Good

Nixe with biscuits

[dark sonnet]

all i'm saying is that if there were to be 1 story that everyone can identify and know as rezero then everything goes back to the ln's version of the story since thats the polished version that builds upon the wn and is used as the source material for the anime and other adaptations like the manga

[agile turtle]

but the mobile game stuff is also canon

[dark sonnet]

that doesn't mean the wn is worthless or ass

or garbage

its a solid draft

[sterile charm]

wn is considerd a accepted medium in the community and by the author

its just what makes the cut into Ln release

[hoary lake]

Wns are cut for the public 🥀

Polishing isn’t necessarily better

[sterile charm]

Yes, the web novel for Re:Zero is considered canon, as it was the original format created by the author, Tappei Nagatsuki. The light novel is an adaptation of the web novel, which means it may have some differences in content and details.

[agile turtle]

@dark sonnet WHATCHU know about Alcor Subaru

[hoary lake]

From official to canon

I’m Crine

[dark sonnet]

🥀

[hoary lake]

Tf is this Mickey mousing

[dark sonnet]

bro im getting overwhelmed with replies rn

[hazy lava]

WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT JOHN FATE

[dark sonnet]

🥀

[hoary lake]

Mfs are changing words faster than the exp earned from farming

What do we know about siesta madarame

[agile turtle]

whatchu know about all these if routes

[dark sonnet]

all what ifs bro

fake

[hazy lava]

Slop

[agile turtle]

nothing

[agile turtle]

What???

[hoary lake]

Did you know that greed if Subaru is ahh

[sterile charm]

if routes are mid [larping]

[hoary lake]

If routes are ass

Like the series

Nobody likes re zero

Jst read Lotm instead

[sterile charm]

mushoku tensai > re zero

[hoary lake]

Ln. Wn. Anime.

[sterile charm]

take it or leave it

[hoary lake]

Anything

[dark sonnet]

thats not true btw, the ln adds scenes that are not present in the wn at times

[hoary lake]

Ass

[hazy lava]

John fate

[agile turtle]

after that piss poor anime adaptation?

[hoary lake]

Yes

[agile turtle]

Is that his name??

[hoary lake]

Shouldn’t affect you

Tbh

[hazy lava]

John wingard

[hoary lake]

Klein does aura farm more in the anime

[hazy lava]

But john fate sounds better

[sterile charm]

lotm anime was kinda suprise

[hoary lake]

Literally changed his dialogue to make him aura farm

[agile turtle]

lmao that's why

[sterile charm]

i thought the lotm community was a bunch of delusional glazers but its ok

[hoary lake]

Everyone aside from me

Yes

[agile turtle]

LOTM took too much inspiration from SL

[hazy lava]

Delulu

[hoary lake]

True true true

[sterile charm]

u read the wn?

[dark sonnet]

bro what is this ragebait 🥀

[hoary lake]

Solo leveling is the masterpiece of our generation

[agile turtle]

The anime did

[sterile charm]

rent a gf is better

[hoary lake]

Yes

[hazy lava]

Animazing aint ready for thay write up

[sterile charm]

is the glaze true or no?

[dark sonnet]

🥀

[hoary lake]

Yeah

I mean

[hazy lava]

I think memoirs blocked me lmao when i sent it to him @hoary lake

[hoary lake]

Think it’s the best wn

[dark sonnet]

bro i enjoyed the lotm anime after doing some homework filling in the gaps

[hoary lake]

Not by far but eh

[dark sonnet]

it was a crazy vibe ride for me ngl

[hoary lake]

I just wrote to glaze

I can’t defend any of it

😭 🙏

[sterile charm]

how long did it take u to read

[hoary lake]

Maybe just doge for one hour

[agile turtle]

The anime tries making the MC an aura farmer

[hoary lake]

Like 14 days

I used to read a lot before

[dark sonnet]

he's a fake tho

[sterile charm]

100 chapters a day wow

[dark sonnet]

unlike jinwoo

[hoary lake]

I don’t think I’ll finish it in a month if it was me now ngl

[hazy lava]

Doable the chapters aint that long

[hoary lake]

Maybe

[hazy lava]

Rtoc had me dying

[hoary lake]

Syau

[hazy lava]

Burned out from ts like 3 times

[dark sonnet]

yk maybe i enjoyed lotm's anime more cuz i had crazy discussions about it with others back when i was watching it

[sterile charm]

i finished 2500 chapters of shadow slave in less then a month but i had 2 school breaks

[hoary lake]

Rtoc and Lotm are almost the same somehow

[sterile charm]

so ya

[hoary lake]

Oh

[hazy lava]

@hoary lake rtoc had those very mid arcs which made me cry from how ass they were

[hoary lake]

I’d take 36 days to read Lotm at my current reading pace

[hoary lake]

True

I swear

Most inconsistent good Wn

Maybe orv is close

[sterile charm]

imma start reading ln over summer break

[hoary lake]

Just read consistently

Doesn’t matter how much you read

[sterile charm]

i like finshing stuff quick

[hoary lake]

Consistency and habit building is more helpful

[sterile charm]

and dont like doing to much stuff at the same time

[hazy lava]

Its either seo getting jumped or contemplating on enlightenment

[hoary lake]

Long running stories…

[sterile charm]

i can't consentrate on multiple stuff

[hoary lake]

The enlightenment part is ahh sometimes

[dark sonnet]

you should really consider getting into one piece then!

😼

[hoary lake]

Like tf is he just contemplating on what he already did 50 chapters ago

[sterile charm]

for orv should i read ln or is the manwha good enough?

[hazy lava]

Like the one when he was a sacred master on cedar wood grove

[sterile charm]

already have

[hoary lake]

Maybe read the wn

[dark sonnet]

ln

[hazy lava]

Manhwa is faithful so read wtv

[hoary lake]

🚬

There’s tons

This is the issue when it’s so direct

Mf just monologues

[sterile charm]

is manwha decent adapatation cause i don't like how orv is written

[dark sonnet]

its going to happen on this break trust 🔥

[hoary lake]

Wn is miles better

I think the orv manhwa is about a 6?

If I’m being generous

[dark sonnet]

according to a very pretentious friend of mine, go with the wn

[sterile charm]

what

[hoary lake]

Orv goes from a 6 to an 8 with the last 50 chapters

[sterile charm]

ok then bro

[hoary lake]

Deadass

It’s the most glazed part

[sterile charm]

last 50 chapters get big glaze ya

[hazy lava]

@worldly tusk WHY BRO WATCHING HENT

[hoary lake]

Just do it now

[dark sonnet]

how are you so quick to identify its hent

[hoary lake]

Just more consistent

[hoary lake]

Anyone can read long stuff

[worldly tusk]

Stop the cap gng

[hoary lake]

It’s a matter of consistency

[hazy lava]

Am just playing and he knows

[hoary lake]

Yeah

I’m out

Enough animazing for the month

I’ll be back in a month

[dark sonnet]

time commitment tho?

🥀

[hoary lake]

Eh

It’s doable

Read 1-2 hours a day

[teal spruce]

Try bots channel

[hazy lava]

I will pull u back whenever i decide to quit reading my textbooks

[sterile charm]

how about tbate the manwha or wn?

[hoary lake]

The time commitment is not a thing if you like it

[hazy lava]

And hop on red rising

[hoary lake]

Like

[dark sonnet]

i like to immerse myself into long things like lom but i cannot do that with like 1 hour

if i allocate it

like that

[hoary lake]

I know some people who are still reading for 2 years btw

Bums

They can’t even be consistent

1 hour of reading every day and they’d be finished way long back

[hoary lake]

You can do it for an hour

An hour is plenty no?

I get the feeling

[dark sonnet]

nah i'm more of a binger

[hoary lake]

But constraints must apply

I am too

But like

I take breaks

Even when binging

Not for Lotm of course

I like to pace around every few minutes

Peace

[uncut spade]

Gabimaru wife a real treasure

[hazy lava]

I mean i could finish red rising in like 2 weeks i suppose but have to read the textbooks😔

[hazy lava]

@sonic vessel red rising wont get me into college

[sonic vessel]

your name is making me think you're suite lol

[hazy lava]

Lowkey would love for one of my subjects to be about red rising

[sonic vessel]

red long name

[hazy lava]

Would have been fun

[hazy lava]

Dont compare me to dub lovers

[agile turtle]

Lmao

[lapis stone]

Anyone been watching Journal with Witch? I need people to talk about it cause I love it so much.

[winter raft]

You and I Are Polar Opposites is so good