Note
This update will mainly cater to people who love challenges and difficulty. The Extreme mode will incorporate some significant improvements with this.
#Important features that developers need to add to this game ( for longtime players )
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hollow spade
I agree that the balance needs some numerous tweaks to make the game more reasonable and difficult. There are already mods doing that, like Venomau's SOD quality of life. But of course, i'd like to see that in game already.
As for the instant reaction for CCTVs and citizens, i'm not feeling the same way you do. Each mismove you'd make even unwanted ones would draws you to very punitive situations.
I'm a huge fan of realistic and harsh simulations. But the balance between game and sim is always something you need to keep in mind to not bring tedious mechanics
opaque portal
I agree that the balance needs some numerous tweaks to make the game more reason...
Yes, I agree. In its current state, I feel the game is set to easy mode, even when playing on the "Extreme" difficulty level, which honestly made me laugh after extensive testing. These update notes are primarily intended for the "Extreme Difficulty" mode so that they truly live up to their name "Extreme."
I would love it if they added that.
hollow spade
i believe the extreme difficulty only raises the dommage done by npcs so far. So yeah, the difficulty is not a global setting at all
opaque portal
i believe the extreme difficulty only raises the dommage done by npcs so far. So...
Yes.
hollow spade
i'm confident things are on their way ! (i hope ^^)
opaque portal
i'm confident things are on their way ! (i hope ^^)
What is your stance on it? What would you add to this game to make it harder and more realistic?
share your notes or something that you found.
opaque portal
i'm confident things are on their way ! (i hope ^^)
I hope to 😄
opaque portal
so yeah agreed
hollow spade
What is your stance on it? What would you add to this game to make it harder and...
i'd lower the rewards. put every prices up. Make the social rank way longer to climb with failures bringing the rank to be lowered. Would restrain much more the access to sync disks and upgrade, because they can basically turns you into a superman when you have a lot installed.
So, i would start with a living routine much harder and a daily constraint.
For the investigations part, i'd like to have a range of cases much harder indeed too. With professionnal killers that doesn't leave much trails behind them. But as the game is designed, with the whole procedural thing, i don't know how technically it can be performed. So i'm less incline to suggest things on that topic 😵💫 😄
opaque portal
It's funny; when I'm playing the game, I always hope that the evidence somehow gets bugged or disappears, so I can enjoy the hard way. 😄
opaque portal
i'd lower the rewards. put every prices up. Make the social rank way longer to c...
Also, if you get a sniper murder mission, you can easily find out in underground shops who ordered the specific gun and ammo at that current time, and there you have a suspect.
- also you basicly even if you didn't know what type of ammo or gun it is, you can easily find a limited number of people on their list from that day who bought something and track from there. Basically, you don't need to see the gun or gun shells; just from the wounds, you can determine if they were shot or not.
never fails 😄
dense mural
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What I would love is corpses being moved post mortem.
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Runs against time can also be interesting.
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Kitnappings are already planned. If you are too late the kitnapped person dies
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Lose social credit if you make a mistake
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fire to obscure crimescenes, distroy evidence and make corpses unrecognizable. (Just minimum data from the victim depending like data stored at work or at home)
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clothing shops and hairdressers which murderers can use to obscure their visuals
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not just fingerprints count as evidence. Camera fotage, alabis, motives and other connections like medical history or addictions can be used. (Sometimes a combo is needed)
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new types of murder like choking to death with a pillow or a rope
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poison in food or drinks (no syringe and no direct contact with the victim at the time of murder)
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victims dying by falling from a building. (Window or rooftop)
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- What I would love is corpses being moved post mortem.
- Runs against time can...
Yeah, I agree. Thanks for sharing! I personally keep a note inside my PC and collect them. Now, I can increase my collection and make one big "NEEDED UPDATES" bundle to send to the devs. 
dense mural
Yeah, I agree. Thanks for sharing! I personally keep a note inside my PC and col...
Ibhave much more stuff to add more to the role play aspect as well. 👀
This game has so much potential!
opaque portal
- What I would love is corpses being moved post mortem.
- Runs against time can...
Yeah, also, it would be cool if they improved households, adding more items to buy.
- Some danger for your personal character or house, like if you solve too many cases, some people might try to remove you with assassination or something like that. It would be cool to have that.
Imagine being stalked; that would add more mysterious suspense in game
Criminal organizations always try to shut down people who are snooping around in their region and solving too many cases.
dense mural
+ Some danger for your personal character or house, like if you solve too many c...
Maybe some story lines with the red gums.
Or you make enemies with some people if you bring a high ranked person behind bars.
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Maybe some story lines with the red gums.
Or you make enemies with some people ...
Yep
Currently, there is only one danger, and that is you can be robbed on the street, but that's all. 😄
opaque portal
i'd lower the rewards. put every prices up. Make the social rank way longer to c...
By the way, what mods is it that adds more difficulty to the game?
is that only one mod or more?
hollow spade
if you wanna see what's available, here is the thunderstore mod page https://thunderstore.io/c/shadows-of-doubt/
There are only few mods right now, but i think there are some really good enhancing the game in the right way
for the mod i talked earlier, there is a .cfg file you can tweak to you own taste
frosty totem
+theres a mod loader in the game
opaque portal
+theres a mod loader in the game
Thanks
opaque portal
if you wanna see what's available, here is the thunderstore mod page https://thu...
👍
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Maybe some story lines with the red gums.
Or you make enemies with some people ...
yea btw do you know who is Eren Kruger ( eden )
that name is always somewhere in game
seems like part of the lore
hollow spade
If i recall, the Kruger name is the family that own Starch Kola. So basically, they represent the biggest corp (and own the enforcers)
wicked pelican
Suggestion:
Since I want difficulty, but there are clearly those who struggle with the game.
A slider that multiplies rewards. That alone would be a huge game changer. And should be realatively easy to program.
So i can finaly be a poor detective for once.
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Suggestion:
Since I want difficulty, but there are clearly those who struggle ...
agree
dense mural
Yeah, I agree. Thanks for sharing! I personally keep a note inside my PC and col...
Maybe we could make a list visible for others and update it with new ideas.
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Maybe we could make a list visible for others and update it with new ideas.
Yes
do you have more suggestions?
like co-op will be great to 😄
CO-OP Multiplayer
dense mural
There was a multiplayer request, but it was not well recieved.
opaque portal
There was a multiplayer request, but it was not well recieved.
Aha
dense mural
I am at work now, but I can make a list on the weekend.
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I am at work now, but I can make a list on the weekend.
that will be cool
im to in work 😄
frosty totem
like co-op will be great to 😄
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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1198189985841561613/1229444242150264913...
well its more co-op 😄
did lot of peopel ask for it? 😄
frosty totem
co-op is multiplayer
opaque portal
Maybe we could make a list visible for others and update it with new ideas.
also i have sand all suggestions to developer Kola via email so i have now to only wait, maybe we might get soon better difficulty
dense mural
Here is the list. Only I can write in it. It has three taps parted into QoL, RP and challange. I will update it as I get ideas or someone else has one and posted it somewhere. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ASew9F-Yt5fvUYWQOklHPvEzY2HpH_lkiUeU6GWZgAY/edit?usp=sharing
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Here is the list. Only I can write in it. It has three taps parted into QoL, RP ...
cool
hollow spade
using a surname for traking a suspect is cool, but i don't see it anywhere else though
opaque portal
using a surname for traking a suspect is cool, but i don't see it anywhere else ...
yeah
they need do way more
frosty totem
dude they can’t do an update this big in 4 days chill out
you made the suggestion if they see it they see it
dense mural
https://tenor.com/view/waiting-patiently-melissa-gif-18714692
I understand your ambition, but the devs can't do magical tricks I am afraid. I am on your side with the ideas you and I share, but being pushy with such memes will do the opposite and over all the devs will not take your request seriously.
candid star
We would also need a Motive system for this, tracking down the reason someone was murdered might help to find the real killer even if they leave nothing at the scene, people should be far more connected to one another, as friends, family, workers, enemies or straight up justice seekers having a real motive to killing the victim. Murderers should also try framing other people and it should be up to the player to figure out if its true
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I understand your ambition, but the devs can't do magical tricks I am afraid. I...
I think it is not magical trick, light changes in difficulty double % and change numbers
they dont need add or remove anything in content, just changes numbers make some stuff lower so difficulty is higher
1 diamond cost 2 000 lets change it on 200 or 300 in higher difficulty settings.
-70% income from missions
20%+ make rent higher
social credit score -90% on higher difficulty so you climb longer for that
opaque portal
dude they can’t do an update this big in 4 days chill out
not big update 😄 - its play with numbers
its more patch than update lmao for higher difficulty
opaque portal
they have to integrate those numbers into the game
how you know that isnt already?
frosty totem
because its not in the game
opaque portal
because its not in the game
even so, it wont take to long for drop some numbers in another difficulty
some moders already did that but it is not stable 😄
for long term
frosty totem
exactly
you make the mod then
if it’s easy to do make the mod
i guarantee you there’s so many systems that would need to be changed just to do this
and that’s IF they choose to add it
that also doesn’t warrant an entire update; you aren’t special
opaque portal
i guarantee you there’s so many systems that would need to be changed just to do...
dam, then it is doomed
frosty totem
maybe so
but don’t whine about it
be patient
stop acting like just because you suggested it it’s going to be added
opaque portal
diffculty in this game is on so low levels that even my 10 years old brother said me that is to easy 😄
frosty totem
yeah i get it
opaque portal
be patient
I will be
frosty totem
but that’s why i limit myself in what i can do in the game
opaque portal
that’s not being patient
I have write a email to devs with same message like i posted here on top back in january
didnt got any reaction so it is hard to stay patient sometimes
opaque portal
make the suggestion then let it be
they are not active on discord
frosty totem
no shit they have to deal with this
opaque portal
if we not count annoucments
opaque portal
no shit they have to deal with this
with suggestions?
well then sorry 😄
1 email in january and 1 suggestion here
is to mutch to deal with i gues
frosty totem
Stop emailing them gang
its not hard
make the suggestion and move on if they see it they see it
dense mural
Your suggestion is not the only one here. And some things might not be possible because it is to demanding. The things we write here are in the end just ideas and I never expect that everything will be in the game. I don't even expect half of it.
Some ideas might be possible, but take time. A lot of time. Others might not be possible for different reasons.
Demanding a response like the meme you posted above is very impacient and tbh rude behavior.
And if you mail them, I forbit you to use my list I posted above as that is not my intention with it.
frosty totem
emailing? sounds like i write them more than one? 😄
writing any is more then enough man
just leave it be
opaque portal
Your suggestion is not the only one here. And some things might not be possible ...
"Demanding a response like the meme you posted above is very impacient and tbh rude behavior."
you know what is meme?
frosty totem
oh my god
its a gif saying "we are waiting" thats not a meme
if it is whats the joke
opaque portal
if it is whats the joke
the skulls making selfy 😄
