World generation,perspective and more | BitCraft | Page 1

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:10 AM

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BitChonk

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:11 AM

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BitChonk

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:11 AM

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hi

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:11 AM

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BitChonk

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:11 AM

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pog

sterile oak Sep 20, 2021, 12:11 AM

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BitChonk

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:11 AM

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as ive seen from the trailer/website images
the game could have an isometric view

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:11 AM

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Hope theres unique mountain generation, scale wise that would be cool

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sorta hate minecraft style small biomes

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:12 AM

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well the world is made out of hexagon blocks

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:12 AM

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imma be a hermit

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:12 AM

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so i guess thats how they manage to make the world infinite

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:12 AM

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did they say the world was going to be infinite?

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:12 AM

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they'll have to use a chunking system

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:12 AM

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yeah chunking

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:12 AM

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most definitely

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:13 AM

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zinc lodge did they say the world was going to be infinite?

yeah, it keeps generating as people join

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:13 AM

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i bet they will need to have a beefy server for this

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since all the players will be on the same world

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:13 AM

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rose silo yeah, it keeps generating as people join

hope that doesn't spread people too thin

sterile oak Sep 20, 2021, 12:13 AM

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I think they said they’re using a kind of server that deals really well with this

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:13 AM

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that was also a worry i had

sterile oak Sep 20, 2021, 12:13 AM

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Idk how that works though

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:13 AM

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thats pretty good

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:14 AM

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it's running off of unity so the optimization hopefully won't be that bad

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:14 AM

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hopefully

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:14 AM

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maybe they have a system that can calculate the amount of people per 10 hexagons or something and if it goes over a limit they'll start generating new land to spawn peple

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:14 AM

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yep

sterile oak Sep 20, 2021, 12:14 AM

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They said they’re building their own server code in the FAQ, so I hope they know what they’re doing

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If they do, the servers could potentially run really well

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:14 AM

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and im glad they have inhouse built code and things

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:15 AM

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wonder if theres npcs in cities, it looked to be in the trailer but I wonder how'd that fit with the rest of the empire system

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:15 AM

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hm

sterile oak Sep 20, 2021, 12:15 AM

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I think there would be npcs

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:15 AM

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will there be quests?

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and how would that work with the whole rng world

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:15 AM

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well it is an mmoRPG so probably

sterile oak Sep 20, 2021, 12:15 AM

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But more like to make the cities not feel completely empty

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:15 AM

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but its a proceduraly generated

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:16 AM

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i wonder

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:16 AM

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feel like the game would work better if the dropped the rpg part

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:16 AM

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hm

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so pretty much minecraft but lowpoly

sterile oak Sep 20, 2021, 12:16 AM

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Does anyone know how the building will work? We only really saw tents in the trailer so idk

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:16 AM

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seems like a word kinda slapped on without meaning

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:16 AM

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maybe they're depending on the players to make a central city

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:16 AM

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hm

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:16 AM

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doubt it

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:16 AM

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there are dungeons aswell

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:16 AM

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it looks like ruins are a major thing

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:16 AM

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so i guess thats where most of the quests would be

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:16 AM

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cause it seems there are npc's but other then that we were shown a group of people making a community

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:17 AM

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since they could generate that in the world

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entrances like in Path of exile,that lead to another instance

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:17 AM

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yeah tbh i also agree that the rpg element from what we've seen was just kinda tacked on

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:17 AM

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and the map most likely won't be fully procedurally generated like mc but more like a mix of generation and placed areas

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:17 AM

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like in rust

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:17 AM

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tilesets

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:17 AM

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yeah that makes alot of sense

sterile oak Sep 20, 2021, 12:18 AM

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Idk they said it’s gonna be added onto infinitely so maybe it is 100% procedural

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:18 AM

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one thing I'm hoping for is proper river generation

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:18 AM

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yeah same

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:18 AM

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with actual flow directions and navigability

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:18 AM

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hm

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i feel like this is gonna work like a minecraft map

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:19 AM

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the only problem i see happening is things like bug fixing and moderation

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:19 AM

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but damn it feels weird with large hexagons

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:19 AM

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especially because its a mmorpg

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:19 AM

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yeah moderation would be a big issue

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:19 AM

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seems like a small team

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:20 AM

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well they're backed up by some interesting people

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:20 AM

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they should have some mod applications for the server

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:20 AM

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fading portal well they're backed up by some interesting people

🤨

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:20 AM

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rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:20 AM

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zinc lodge they should have some mod applications for the server

but we're talking about an infinitely generating world instead of one set world with multiple servers with a team moderating each

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:21 AM

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infinitely generating world = infinite problems

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:21 AM

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basically

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:22 AM

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they would probably make a system to automoderate that

automoderate the usernames,nation/town names,chats and so on

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:24 AM

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yeah but then they also run into the problem of creating a bot or multiple and or a system that is able to sort, identify and neutralise from thousands if not millions of texts and inputs at a time

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:24 AM

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true

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or they could just not let them input those

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in anything

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:25 AM

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I feel like they should have resources get scarcer the further from the main world you get possibly'

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:26 AM

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they have a long way to go i'm just curious if they'll be able to handle it and come out on top, considering similar games like no man sky have been ruined by hype and unachievable promises

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:26 AM

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something to desensitize someone from just going out into the infinite void and forcing the server to load a ton of useless terrain

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:26 AM

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hm true

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:26 AM

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but to still have large bits of just wilderness between population centers

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:26 AM

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but then again alot of people will go the further they can

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:27 AM

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but then what happens when the center resources have been run dry

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:27 AM

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they respawn after a set time?

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:27 AM

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really depends how mining works

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is it like minecraft or rust

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:27 AM

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probably like rust

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its an mmo

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:27 AM

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hope not lol

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rust resource collection suuuuuuuucks

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:28 AM

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hmm

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:28 AM

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but then we run into another problem that rust has

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:28 AM

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which is?

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:28 AM

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the whole just hitting random rocks in a field is really immersion breaking

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:28 AM

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true tbh

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:28 AM

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people monopolising loot spots

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by building walls and huge bases

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:29 AM

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well thats how resources work

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:29 AM

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well i dont think it will be like that

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:29 AM

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thats what trade is for

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:29 AM

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if someone blocks a spot,just find another one

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:29 AM

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how do you trade if you have nothing?

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:29 AM

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fish

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:29 AM

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^

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:29 AM

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lumber

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furs

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:29 AM

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chop trees

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yeah

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:29 AM

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bottom to the top

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thats why you have to work with others

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:30 AM

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like in the old days

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:30 AM

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like irl 😳

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:30 AM

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ahhaha

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:30 AM

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so in essence to actually play the game you have to do another layer of grinding to trade on a free market where the monopoly are free to change the price as they will

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do you not see the issue here

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:31 AM

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wait we cant send links here right?

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:31 AM

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not sure

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:31 AM

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time to cheez the system

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:31 AM

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https://youtu.be/ntG_EEfpasM

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:31 AM

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yeah

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ill just use stickers

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:31 AM

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fire and the flames

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dosen't seem to load a preview tho

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:32 AM

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okay so

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:32 AM

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rose silo so in essence to actually play the game you have to do another layer of grinding...

I feel like you're thinking of this game like it's a minecraft factions server, not everyone should have max level loot and armor, farming, and barter and trade is the fun of the game

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:32 AM

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as you can see

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these would be the so called "rust nodes"

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haha

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:32 AM

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yeeeeeeeeah

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could just be rocks 😳

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:32 AM

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i mean sure

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by the color it looks like iron

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:33 AM

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wish the devs were in here I wanna talk to em noooooooooooooooocry

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:33 AM

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ahahaha

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:33 AM

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zinc lodge I feel like you're thinking of this game like it's a minecraft factions server, ...

but its an RPG the goal is to get the best loot to take down stronger bosses to get better loot, thats the gameplay loop of an RPG

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:33 AM

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i dont think they would tell that much ,since most of the things are "Subject to change"

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CB_pogyou

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:34 AM

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yeeeeeeeah

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:34 AM

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as for the buildings

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:34 AM

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@rose silo we won't know until we see what direction they take it, more rpg and loot grinding, or more city builder / sandbox based where it's the journey thats the point

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:35 AM

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im kind of scared for that

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this could be the whole sim thing

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where you just give the building ur items and it builds itself

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:36 AM

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thats a resource pile

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not a building

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storage node

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:36 AM

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this is a building

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:37 AM

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hmmmm

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sheeeeeeet

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:37 AM

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but it has the same sign infront

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haha

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so it kinda feels we would have to upgrade things

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:37 AM

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ugh hope not

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:37 AM

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honestly the trailer and the mmorpg tag don't seem to line up

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:37 AM

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yeah

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:37 AM

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well it can line up

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:37 AM

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seems more like a Sapiens type game than an rpg

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:37 AM

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yeah

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:38 AM

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it feels like an albion online but cuter and not instance based

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:38 AM

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which I prefer

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:38 AM

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so alot of potential

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and honestly been looking forward to something like that

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:38 AM

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it kinda reminds me of two games combined, journey and sky: children of light

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:38 AM

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yeah same

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im totally fine with how the world and camera work

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the building system,maybe not too excited about that

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:39 AM

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instead of an rpg game more of an exploration game with elements of survival tacked on

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:40 AM

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fading portal the building system,maybe not too excited about that

i'm curious how much freedom we'll have with it

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:40 AM

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hm same

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:41 AM

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yeah was hoping for empire based architecture styles

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also looking through the rest of the trailer the rocks seem to be covered in moss and other shit, they don't look like resource spawns

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:42 AM

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the trailer kinda doesnt match the images from the website

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:43 AM

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oh and character customisation

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:43 AM

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Where are my hexagons BitCraft

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haha

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:43 AM

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the game looks stunning from the trailer

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:44 AM

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yeah pre rendered though

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:44 AM

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yeah

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:44 AM

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mmm

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:44 AM

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backed by supercell

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:44 AM

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yep

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ahahha

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:44 AM

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creators of clash of clans

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oh god

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:45 AM

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AHahha

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:45 AM

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oh no

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OH NO

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:45 AM

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it doesnt mean it will be a pay to win

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:45 AM

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different dev team

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:45 AM

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it just means they backed it up

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:45 AM

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the comapany is just backing them

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:45 AM

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yeah

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:45 AM

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NOW I KNOW WHY THEY ASKED IF YOU PLAYED CLASH OF CLANS IN THE SURVEY

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:45 AM

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xd

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:45 AM

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I think this is a very wait and see

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:45 AM

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GOD DAMNIT

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:45 AM

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you know what annoys me

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lemme screenshot

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:45 AM

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LOL THJEY ASKED IF YOU PLAYED LIKE 80 OTHER GAMES TOO

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still waiting for how they are going to monetize though

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:47 AM

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i mean fair enough, they would probably want people who play that genre of game instead of a full FPS gremlin who will call it boring and bad after 30 minutes

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:47 AM

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zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:47 AM

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thats my main concern

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:47 AM

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you see the background

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its not hexagonal

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CB_no_angry

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:47 AM

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probably because distant terrain isn't fully generated for the player

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:47 AM

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theres no way that you can make a mountain that detailed out of hexagons

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:47 AM

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very probable

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:48 AM

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you know what i feel like we wont even see the game from that perspective

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:48 AM

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did they not mean hexagonal as in how the chunks are shaped?

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:48 AM

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so the range wouldnt even matter

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:48 AM

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they haven't actually said anything on the hexagons

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:48 AM

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well the images on the website

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:48 AM

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we just know from observation of the imagery on the site

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:48 AM

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you can see that the world is made out of the hexagons

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even the builds are made to fit a 1x1 hex

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:49 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BPsEH-0M3s

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you should check the development of this game

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may give you some idea of what they're doing here

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:50 AM

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OH damn

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yep

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that makes sense too

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but i feel like it would eat alot of resources

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especially server resources

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:51 AM

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fading portal so the range wouldnt even matter

have you heard of nanites

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:51 AM

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what do u mean?

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:52 AM

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https://youtu.be/HM1IZnRzVGQ?t=97

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:52 AM

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oh yeah

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but thats unreal engine

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i feel like the world will be made out of tiles

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:53 AM

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wdym

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:54 AM

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yeah im confused
in the trailer there are couple types of land
made out of hexagons
smooth
and Voxel-y

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the first couple of seconds, you can see the voxel terrain on the mountain
the fishing and the village scene have hexagons
the desert scene has smooth terrain

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:55 AM

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most smooth terrain is just hexagons with a filter

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so we'll see what they do

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:56 AM

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oh and yeah the climbing scene has hexagons

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:56 AM

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ye

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I dig it

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:56 AM

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pillars

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:56 AM

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just might have limitations

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:56 AM

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yeah

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:56 AM

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general chat is a fucking disaster lmao

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:56 AM

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idk i guess we have to wait for other videos

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yep saw

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:56 AM

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McLaughter

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:57 AM

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rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:57 AM

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fading portal the first couple of seconds, you can see the voxel terrain on the mountain the ...

however the description says its not a voxal game

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:57 AM

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then there would be limits to our exploration

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no mountain climbing

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 12:58 AM

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what pains me the most

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NO SAND PHYSICS

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 12:59 AM

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ahahhaha

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 12:59 AM

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you never know

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lmao general chat wants so much, bro they don't owe you anythiiiiing

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it's their game we haven't even given them any money

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 1:00 AM

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true

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thats why i have hopes for this

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lmao

rose silo Sep 20, 2021, 1:02 AM

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the bar is set very high

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 1:02 AM

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i dont mind

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aslong as they deliver

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in any state

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 1:02 AM

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well heres to hoping we get in the alpha

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 1:03 AM

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in december

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InaPogo

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 1:03 AM

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yeeeee

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 1:04 AM

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idm

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i have new world in 9 days

zinc lodge Sep 20, 2021, 1:04 AM

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wonder if they take activity on the server into account when accepting people lmao

fading portal Sep 20, 2021, 1:04 AM

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uh

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as seen from the other games, posting content would give you a bigger chance of getting into alpha

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so i guess arts and crafts

#World generation,perspective and more