#The trader stand w/ all goods must be grabbable from a short distance to counter griefing like this.

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eager panther
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R8 Shizuoka is back at it again.

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It looks as though Shizuoka intentionally bumped the trader stand inside of a large stone node, where it is inaccessible, using the "move off claim" function.

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Then, Shizuoka claimed the rock it was bumped into, preventing the rock from being mined to make the stand accessible again.

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This looks like an attempt to circumvent the previous judgement by being plausibly deniable; "oh, the rock just spawned there!"

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But resources don't spawn within claimed land, and examination of the surrounding area reveals literally zero reason why this rock would be claimed other than to explicitly grief the player (Sapog) whose stand is stuck inside the rock.

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@pulsar crescent In case you aren't aware of this already.

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Also tagging @surreal axle because I figure you would be interested in this.

surreal axle
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i wish the support team would have made it clear to not grief people intentionally the first time

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we shouldnt have to drag ingame drama into the discord to get it dealt with

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@trim goblet sorry for the ping but im making sure you are able to have a proper follow up like last time, im unsure if sapog has reported this yet

eager panther
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The trader stand w/ all goods must be grabbable from a short distance to counter griefing like this.

pulsar crescent
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Yes, they're weird people who try to harass me all the time. They raise their claim limits up to my trade post, push my trade post into a stone, and then reduce the claim limit again. They want me out of there, but I don't give up. I keep trying to reset it. Maybe they'll give up. Or I'll start taking revenge at some point.

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the last times I was always able to get the traidpost out of the stone

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but it looks like they deliberately included the stone in the claim so that I can't remove it

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I'll try to figure it out later, I don't feel like it right now

cedar idol
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Maybe you should just move at this point. Report them. But k don’t get the logic of wanting to be beside toxic people

ember bough
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All deployables could do with a "move here" option with a couple hexes range, even carts and wagons.

smoky lava
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Isn't setting up a shop nearby in the first place kind of asking for trouble?

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It kind of feels like they're making themselves out to be the victim,
when they could just use "Recover" to fix the issue.

meager wharf
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First of all, after what happened last time with the wall blocking incident, it’s clear to us that this isn’t just harassment — it’s that we don’t want you doing business near our Claim. That much is obvious.
At the end of the last time, when we asked you not to set up your stand here, you responded with “Why NOT?”
That’s when it became clear to us: you're not listening to our requests, you're playing the victim, and you're just trying to take full advantage of the hunting ground we built.
If you really wanted to remove your stand, all you'd have to do is hit "Recover."
The fact that you don’t means you’re intentionally leaving it here — just to make us look like the bad guys, right?
The moment you made that irrelevant thread on Discord Feedback, it was obvious your only goal was to paint us in a bad light.
If you think the game mechanics are broken, you should report it to Support.
If all you want to do is conduct business, then come negotiate with us.

But all I want to say is this: Recover your stand and never come back here again.
Having a troublesome neighbor like you is intolerable.

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I'll add that right after he said "Why NOT?", he set up his stand again and started doing business.

pulsar crescent
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It's not on your territory, it doesn't bother anyone, so show that you're good people and leave him there

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meager wharf
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The timeline is clear: the Claim was placed first, then you set up your Stand — that’s not up for debate. This isn’t something that should be discussed further in Feedback. You can recover everything without losing any contents by using “Move Trader Stand Off Claim.”

Your argument has been falling apart since your last so-called “Feedback” (which wasn’t even proper feedback to begin with). There’s no need for further discussion. We’ll leave the decision to the devs.

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Ah, so this is the magic command that lets you recover everything safely.

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tacit grail
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Why doesnt the offending clan just match prices with the trader instead of resorting to griefing? This "we don't want you doing business here" is nonsense

daring thunder
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Why is it bad to put your trading stall anywhere though? Like the whole reason it's a deployable instead of a building is so that you can place it anywhere

surreal axle
eager panther
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Sapog is putting the trader stand a respectful distance away from the claim, but next to the adjacent hunting spot. Sapog's stand isn't blocking anything, or anyone. It's on the -far- side of the claim, not possibly blocking expansion or extra amenities.

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And yet, the claim owners see fit to lock it into a rock and claim it.

slim dust
eager panther
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Gabrie's posts are entirely disingenous. He is effectively griefing away the thousands of hex and dozens of animal corpses (worth thousands of hex) within Sapog's stand and then smugly proposing that Sapog simply discard them all by using the Recover command.

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You can recover everything without losing any contents by using “Move Trader Stand Off Claim.”

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Even if he does- you are deliberately griefing his ability to conduct business in the first place until he personally checks in to fix the situation. This still makes you the villain, and the one to make the first offense; and why?

Imagine if I said that I, another player, could remove your ability to place and collect market orders until you next logged in, whenever I want, with no cost to myself. Do you think this is fair?

Imagine I show up to your settlement and there are now walls around every station, forcing you to manually remove them yourself and move things around for access. Do you think this is fair?

Imagine you log in and your entire settlement has been surrounded with massive terraformed pillars, preventing you from moving mounts and vehicles in until you un-terraform them. Do you think this is fair?

Imagine that I cover every hex around your settlement with paving, blocking resource spawns until you remove them. Do you think this is fair?

"He can fix it himself" is a completely disingeous argument. You are griefing him, plain and simple. His ability to repair the situation personally does not make your actions have any less weight.

slim dust
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Maybe the lazy hunters at Shizuoka should try harder and get more resources to out compete Sapog instead of resorting to petty griefing to get the monopoly that they want to have

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I also love the mental gymnastics of the blame game. "You painted us in a bad light!" No, you being one of the only settlements in all 9 regions to act this petty towards traders combined with the immature response is what is painting you in a bad light, not the person calling you out for your behavior.

surreal axle
pulsar crescent
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you are bad people and griefers

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slim dust