fish cooking has bad scaling

[harsh lotus]

the basic cooking recipes for bait fish lake fish and ocean fish give the exact same boosts. I understand that each has its own set of recipes that improve it further, but the ocean fishes upgraded food is also the SAME as lake fish. not only would it make sense for the basic food to scale with fish type but also the upgraded, otherwise why would i spend lake fish to get ocean fish when they give the same boost??

to make it crystal clear why this is not at all balanced here's a list of tasks for each food:
assume you have a T1 rod and your going for T1 fish.

to catch bait fish you need nothing, cook 2 into plain food

to catch lake fish you need to catch bait fish, process them into to 2 bait per bait fish, catch lake fish, process to filet, cook 1 to 1 plain food

to catch ocean fish you need to catch bait fish, process them to 2 bait per bait fish , catch lake fish, kill sagi birds, process sagi bird at 4 meat per bird, process 10 lake fish and 5 raw meat into a single chum, use chum on ocean fish spot and spot is fishable for 15 mins, use bait to catch ocean fish, catch 1.67 fish per min (these fish are also large cargo), process 1 fish into 3-4 fillets, cook 1 to 1 plain food

[hallow nebula]

Ocean Fish need to be higher impact for sure.

[lofty herald]

I haven’t gotten to cook ocean fish at all, are the buffs any better between the lake filet and the ocean filet?

[hallow nebula]

if I remember correctly, they are the same

so yep, big oof 😹

[lofty herald]

Yiiiikes. Yeah, I want ocean fish to be more worth the effort :(

[wintry tree]

yea atm the only reason to get ocean fish is for svim. and even that...

[fast magnet]

100% needs to be larger impact than what we are seeing currently

[dim void]

Ocean fish are not worth the effort to catch them. It is that simple. You get the same final product out of both catches. You are just adding a step, wasting more than you are getting, and feeling bad about putting all that work in for what you get. Okay, if you chum a spot you get up to 11 ocean fish per person, given current storage available, fishing the spot. It makes a great social activity, but over all it feels wasteful in so many ways.

[hallow nebula]

Yes, as a great social activity, people should be rewarding for engaging in it that way, not punished with diminishing returns.

[dim void]

If you have more people fishing off of the one chum, you do get more fish out of it. For each additional fisher you gain one more boat load of fish. It just means that solo players are punished for fishing alone.

[late dirge]

just came here to say, I have never noticed any scales in my fish - maybe the cooking skill includes removing scales that may have passed the fishing station process . . .

[pallid echo]

The ocean fish used to have a chance of giving scales, not sure if that was removed lol

[late dirge]

fishing for ocean fish still shows a chance of dropping a marlin scale; but I never fished offshore enough to learn what to do with them.

[pallid echo]

Ag!

Yeah they don't do anything

Wups

[late dirge]

they is just purty!

[acoustic cape]

To tack on to this, there is no scaling in the food!!! Tier 1 to tier food for crafting went up only 1% in gathering/crafting speed. That's craaaazy