#It is actually
muted mulch
it's singleplayer with an optional Co-op with a few people, in no way is it an MMO or even less MMORPG
round moon
Nuh uh
proud flame
dawn cairn
If you call Genshin a MMO, I'll call Minecraft a MMO.
muted mulch
minecraft is more an MMO than Genshin
crystal gulch
Well some priate hosted minecraft servers are mmo's
dawn cairn
Exactly.
crystal gulch
When does a single player game become an mmo ?
proud flame
If you call Genshin a MMO, I'll call Minecraft a MMO.
that doesnt help, minecraft is an mmo
crystal gulch
When does a multiplayer game become and mmo ?
dawn cairn
If Genshin qualifies, any game that can have 4+ players in a session is a MMO.
proud flame
mmo: massive multiplaer open world
crystal gulch
haha. no holy
muted mulch
When does a multiplayer game become and mmo ?
when a lot of people are sitting playing on the same server most of the time and interacting with each other in some way
real tinsel
yeah. it has to be MASSIVELY multiplayer
crystal gulch
Otherwise its a MML
proud flame
ahh sorry my bad i am just soo used to calling it that
crystal gulch
If iirc, Lord British coined the term MMO
proud flame
i mean to be fair, most mmos are open world
crystal gulch
back in the 90's around ultima era
light pebble
it's singleplayer with an optional Co-op with a few people, in no way is it an M...
Yeah sorry it is a rpg I got the mmo part wrong
muted mulch
🤝
crystal gulch
yeah. it has to be MASSIVELY multiplayer
can you define massive for me 😄 I love talking about the real meaning of MMO
muted mulch
So this will be like smth Albion online 😭
yeah something like that but seems to be more immersive and creative
crystal gulch
So this will be like smth Albion online 😭
Na, its gonna be nothing like albion, that is all instanced zones, this is suppose to be 1 huge open world, seamless
light pebble
yeah something like that but seems to be more immersive and creative
Yeah I hope
muted mulch
and almost no combat(?)
crystal gulch
If i am ever to take a guess and compair it to a game, i would say Its like a game called Salem the game, or haven and hearth, but without the pvp.
muted mulch
Na, its gonna be nothing like albion, that is all instanced zones, this is suppo...
i wouldn't say that it's a big difference, there will still be instances in BitCraft too, even seamless, they can't keep everything on the same server
dawn cairn
Battlefield/CoD: FPS
Planetside 2: MMOFPS
Skyrim: RPG
WoW: MMORPG
Large amounts of players in the same world/session and can interact and see eachother.
light pebble
and almost no combat(?)
I hope they add combat later or give option to enable PvP or smth
muted mulch
is hunting combat?
proud flame
is hunting combat?
yes
light pebble
Don't know
proud flame
but that is under pve
dawn cairn
Does the prey fight back?
proud flame
unless you want to hunt players
dawn cairn
Human leather chairs?
We Rimworld now?
crystal gulch
i wouldn't say that it's a big difference, there will still be instances in BitC...
They can, if the world is only loaded in the chunks that are currently visable by online players.. There are already games that do this.
muted mulch
Human leather chairs?
We Rimworld now?
i would make these 
muted mulch
They can, if the world is only loaded in the chunks that are currently visable b...
yeah i called that seamless instances
it is basically that
crystal gulch
Well, if you call it that, then the whole world is the instance. and it is seamless.
but you are not "instanced"
muted mulch
the world of Albion is a number of locations, each is a collection of channels, inside them are dungeons which are locations with channels too
tbh, i haven't seen a single instance in albion except some dungeons
crystal gulch
Every map is its own instance, its not part of a "seamless world", it has loading screens and load time depending on your computer and internet connection.
We vastly have difference views on what seamless and instances are to the point i doubt we will ever agree.
dawn cairn
I'd agree that unless you can go across the whole thing without loadingscreens (Unless you fast-travel/TP) then it's not very seamless.
muted mulch
Every map is its own instance, its not part of a "seamless world", it has loadin...
i didn't call it seamless, it's just not instances. Instances are timed and players can't just join them if it already started.
crystal gulch
This is where we have different views. An instance is more or less a Zone, which is accessed through a loading screen.
It has nothing to do with being Timed or player access locked.
If you are talking about instanced dungeons, then maybe.
Or are you talking about layers?
dawn cairn
Might just be misunderstandings.
When I hear instances I think Dungeons and Raids in WoW.
crystal gulch
Same, if someone says to me an "instance", its accessed via a loading screen, or a dungeon.. but you could call albions maps Shards i guess?
muted mulch
Or are you talking about layers?
i can explain what i mean. Seamless world: like Minecraft with chunks; Location with channels or layers: zones in games like WoW or FF14 or many other MMOs where people run around doing quests, killing monsters and each other and stuff; Instance: a dungeon, quest location, PvP arena, etc. where you enter solo or in a party and it generates a temporary server just for you to play for a limited time.
crystal gulch
Then this game will be like minecraft then in the open world.
muted mulch
great 
crystal gulch
One key thing imho you missed also in your explination, is the loading screen to access the instance.
muted mulch
i don't think loading screen means it's an instance. Zones require loading in too
dawn cairn
But in some games, like WoW and MC, the zones/chunks load as you approach, without interrupting your journey. Seamless.
But in some games, like Planetside 2 and Foxhole, when you get to the edge of the zone, you get a loadingscreen to enter the next zone. Not seamless.
muted mulch
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