Flywheels

[wanton jungle]

Oh! Yeah I looked into that - I'd probbaly have to self-host it, which I'd be more than happy todo, though most things need payment if it's above max 5 users

I'll have a look at some self-host options

[hoary coral]

For trello, I beleive the free plan lets you share a read-only version fo the board for folks to see. Probably why it's so popular with artists. By all means do not spend money just to share progress updates, lol.

[wanton jungle]

Yeah, I can always self-host, so ain't gonna pay money for it lol

but yeah trello's offering is good

[tranquil tusk]

or just a Google sheet with current progress and you can view it just with the link 😛

free and easy 😉

[wanton jungle]

Naaaaah I want some damn KANBAN board up in here

[wanton jungle]

Update (soon™️)

Been working on getting this updated - made some good progress but hit a bit of a road-block. Was hoping it'd be updated this weekend but looks like it might be a bit longer. Apologies all, and thanks for your patience with this

massive thanks to @tranquil tusk and @nova crane

[fair solar]

you take your time. the game isnt going anywhere. nor are we

[candid echo]

Dang now I gotta pick out a good map lol

[formal parcel]

can't wait to get this mod back.

[wanton jungle]

SOON ™️

[open abyss]

That looks cool

[wanton jungle]

Flywheels v3.0.1.86

Now live on the Steam workshop! (Coming soon to Mod.io)
Flywheels should now be back for Update 7
If you have any issues, let me know!

[topaz aurora]

yes

[hoary coral]

HOORAY!!!!

[candid echo]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-emoji-rage-gif-3851471549750385303

[fallow holly]

russian translate for flywheels

[fair solar]

The folk tails are saved

[fast plaza]

It's one thing for the numbers to be different between the variants at different sizes, but maybe make them consistent?
For some reason, the unframed medium flywheel is better than the framed versions, despite the other two being the opposite.

           Small Flywheel:      1,500 hph      -10hp loss rate
 H. Framed Small flywheel:      2,000 hph       -7hp loss rate
 V. Framed Small Flywheel:      2,000 hph       -7hp loss rate
 
          Medium Flywheel:     20,000 hph       -7hp loss rate
H. Framed Medium Flywheel:     15,000 hph       -4hp loss rate
V. Framed Medium Flywheel:     15,000 hph       -4hp loss rate

           Large Flywheel:    120,000 hph       -4hp loss rate
 H. Framed Large Flywheel:    150,000 hph       -1hp loss rate
 V. Framed Large Flywheel:    150,000 hph       -1hp loss rate

[candid echo]

:🥹 its finally back

[topaz aurora]

Prob because the framed you can’t place stuff on top unlike the framed ones

[wanton jungle]

Yeah and you need to look at the capacity per block ratio. If you work out the capacity per block, along with the decay factor, then the medium flywheels are actually the least powerful in some regards

[fast plaza]

Ziplines bring new options for traumatizing beavers.

[hoary coral]

I'm reminded of the Autism Roller

[cosmic hull]

No, it's a new type of Printing Press (Beaver Press) 🤣

[fast plaza]

Heads-up: the experimental update today broke this.
You have a few days, though.

[tranquil tusk]

Battery its some scripts regaring connections of power that has changed
working on the variables for massfixer 🙂

[wanton jungle]

Champion, thanks! I actually hadn't looked at Experimental yet, so good to know it (i suppose used to) work with experimental

[tranquil tusk]

Looks like it now does an automatic transfer but do look cordinates and directions of the transput some is translated but did not have every case just added my 2 cases

also to have less problem with select path i would suggest this solution:
https://superuser.com/questions/106360/how-to-enable-execution-of-powershell-scripts

[wanton jungle]

thank you kindly!

[noble bison]

Flywheels makes the game crash on startup on the latest experimental version (0.7.9.2).

[wanton jungle]

Yeah it's not compatible with the experimental branch yet I'm afraid

I'm trying to make some progress updating other stuff before swapping the environment out

[tranquil tusk]

Game is now updated to same as experimental!

[cosmic hull]

LOL, so, no pressure ? 🤣

[tranquil tusk]

Well just a note so he can switch all to latest😉

[wanton jungle]

Flywheels v3.1.0.24

Updated for latest release 🙂

[fast plaza]

Finally!

[wanton jungle]

Yeah sorry, was in Belgium

Updated on Steam and Mod.io (pending file scans)

[topaz aurora]

How was your trip

[wanton jungle]

Busy!

[lone agate]

Hey, just started a game with the Fkywheels update, and the small vertical framed flywheels aren' connevting to the vertival powershafts

[odd jacinth]

hey battery i just tried to load up the game with only flywheels and its dependencies and it is crashing my game. thanks in advance for the help

[lone agate]

Hmm, llke the medium vwrtical ones aren't working either

[odd jacinth]

restarting my pc made it so it loads in now

[noble bison]

Hey Battery, are you planning on making Flywheels compatible with Greedy Embers?

[wanton jungle]

Can you tell me a bit more? Are they storing power at all? Is it crashing?

[wanton jungle]

Do they have a specific colour palette or do they use emberpelts/another faction colour scheme?

[full roost]

@wanton jungle
fly wheels are not getting connected.

And something is missing in the flywheel junctions

[wanton jungle]

Damn, yeah that’s the cluster mechanical texture. I’ll try take a lookie tonight. The connection issue will just be transput specifications, should be a quick fix!

[noble bison]

They're basically GreedyBuilders with the Emberpelts' special industry added. So they use the palettes of all three factions (FT, IT and EP).

[tranquil tusk]

they use emberpelts if possible and if there is a better version it uses that but else estetics of emberpelts

Example prefab file included

[wanton jungle]

Ah nice! Yeah so it’ll just be an emberpelts specification then

That should be nice and easy

[wanton jungle]

Flywheels v3.1.0.57

Fixed a few issues with Vertical Flywheels and the junctions

Aaaaaand

Flywheels v3.1.0.58

Adding GreedyEmbers compatability
@noble bison

[noble bison]

Awesome, I'll update the mod as soon as it's up on mod.io. Thank you for the quick addition!

[wanton jungle]

oh yeah, forgot about mod.io

posting it there now

[brittle mica]

Ive been having crashes on load or new game since around the 8th

[wanton jungle]

Ok, something from the animator then. I’m pretty sure I know where to look, but can I get a copy of the save file for testing?

Appreciate that might be difficult if you’re playing on (I assume) a steam deck

No worries if it’s not doable!

[brittle mica]

I'll try to find it but yeah, steam deck

Is this... anything

[wanton jungle]

That’s perfect, thank you!

[pulsar jewel]

It may have been reported, but Flywheel crashes the game if you try to start a game with the Emberpelts faction. The game load fine it is only when you select emberpelt and try to load into a save (or start a new one) that it crashes. Works fine with iron teeth and folktails.

Here is the error log file if they help.

[wanton jungle]

Ah, I think I know what that is too

Thank you!

[wanton jungle]

Do you use Mod.io or Steam?

The exception is... interesting

[tranquil tusk]

Also have you tried with just flywheels and emberpelts with its dependecy (so its not an other mod creating the problem

[wanton jungle]

Yeah it looks like it's loading the buildings twice, which is odd

I also noticed that you're running V 0.7.9.3 - latest version is 0.7.9.4 (are you still on experimental branch?)

Sorry, that above one was for @brittle mica

[brittle mica]

No, when was the update? I'll check when I'm home

[wanton jungle]

Not too sure, give it a look when you get back, might be a version issue

[brittle mica]

My game updated today so i guess it was 1 behind, i tried loading the save again with all the same mods (except employment managr which crashes the start menu), and I tried to start a new game, which also crashes. Lmk if you want those logs 

[brittle mica]

... Aaaaand tried again with the current version of Employment Manager which doesn't crash the menu

[cosmic hull]

#🚀mod-users message

[wanton jungle]

@brittle mica Just updated it to sort out the specification issue. Make sure you've got Flywheels on 3.1.0.60 and give it another shot 🙂

[soft whale]

@wanton jungle With the newest update, i cant load the save anymore...it loads endlessly...your mod is the only change since my last time playing it yesterday...

[wanton jungle]

Is this the 3.1.0.60 version?

[soft whale]

Yes

[wanton jungle]

What other mods do you have enabled? Might be something up with the specs

[cosmic hull]

I'm afraid of Faction Mixer mod....

[soft whale]

Extra Terrain Tools, Harmony, Knattematerials, TimberApi, Ladder, Mod Settings, DamDecoration, TimberApi UIBuilder, Unstuckify, Path Extension, DamDecorations_DecorationExpansion

That are all the other...

[wanton jungle]

Huh, what faction was this for?

[soft whale]

Folktails

[wanton jungle]

I’ll see if I can replicate this! Are you able to send across a copy of your save? Would help a ton with the bug hunting

[soft whale]

It seems less like a bug, but more like your update uses way more ressources than before...Might be an optimization problem...

[cosmic hull]

Check if you haven't click on the game during game if you have run in background enabled ... 🤔 I checked on FT and is loading

[soft whale]

I dont even have that enabled...

[wanton jungle]

The last update removed 3 JSON files and that’s it, so if it’s getting stuck then it might be something up with the loading order? I’ll see if I can recreate it but it’s a new one to me

[soft whale]

Just tried an old version of the save and it did load...But that would mean discarding ca. 2-4 weeks of progress...

[wanton jungle]

That’s really odd… I’ll try doing a clean build when I get home and push that up - hopefully that makes a difference

Not sure if i asked already, but is this from steam or mod.io?

[soft whale]

Thank you^^Can test it in a week though´as i am leaving for a week later...and i get all mods from the steam workshop...

[wanton jungle]

Sweet, have a nice time away! Let me know if you still have the issue when you get back

[brittle mica]

Still crashing 😔

[wanton jungle]

What was the error logs for that?

Sorry, forgot to hit reply on that!

[brittle mica]

Oop, should be able to send it within the hour

[tranquil tusk]

this is not a flywheel bug but zxuiji -m- Bentos (v0.7.9.00) report at his steam or mod.io page

[brittle mica]

Oof thank you, idk how I didn't realize that. It's loading now, sorry for the confusion @wanton jungle

[wanton jungle]

Ah! No worries! I'm glad to hear that because I was really struggling to track the issue down

[pulsar jewel]

Steam

[pulsar jewel]

Sorry, so late at answering. Have not tried any other combo. I just know that turning off flywheels works. With it on it doesn't. Have not tried the update that just released yet. Will let you know.

[topaz aurora]

When you planning on adding more flywheels

[pulsar jewel]

the new version works with emberpelts. Thanks

[fast plaza]

The Emberpelt's small engine has a perfect spot to tuck in a small flywheel!

[wanton jungle]

I’m not sure I’ll ever add more - the mod is fairly mature now and is more settled in

[topaz aurora]

It was a joke in the first place wasn’t expecting you to add more

[fast plaza]

You could always add a wheel covered in flies, or a flying wheel.

[topaz aurora]

Bruh that sounds awesome

[hoary coral]

As far as more wheels are concerned, the only one I could possibly see being even loosely entertained is a wheel big enough to be a second wonder for each faction.

otherwise, yeah, I think there's enough.

[soft whale]

Still got it...Well, restart the thing another time...Might not be a bad idea, as i discovered some flaws with the changed design I tried with U7...

[wanton jungle]

Shhhh, you’ll spoil the secrets!

[wanton jungle]

What version of the game and mod are you running?

[fast plaza]

It would be needed to power the Amp Ear's inevitable tesla coil.

[soft whale]

In both cases the newest...But like I said, I restart it, as there were still some design flaws for the U7 Version of the project...And I wont go for 200-300 builders this time...And yes, those were only the builders...

[wanton jungle]

I could not comment... 👀

[wanton jungle]

Aw, well I'm sorry it's caused issues, I wish I could figure it out

[soft whale]

Dont worry, the new design eliminates the flaws, so better this way. Improving the design flaws on the unloadable map would have been way more work, as it would have needed extensive deconstruction, terraforming and reconstruction...TNT alone would have been 4k+...

[stiff cedar]

Hello, I am having a problem with your mod, I am trying to use Configurable factions and it crashes and have found out it is because of flywheel. So I am reaching out to you to see if you can help. Here is error log.

[finite timber]

Hi @wanton jungle looking forward for a 1.0 version of your amazing mod

[wanton jungle]

a'ight, on it 👍

May take some time to get the modding environment set up, but will see about finding some time, at least for Flywheels

[finite timber]

Amazing ! It would be great if you or another mod creator could record the process of creating (or updating) a mod like this, unfortunately there aren't many resources that I'm aware of on how to do this or it's totally outdated.

[candid echo]

🙏 by the good graces THANK YOU! I am also looking forward to it!

[vital pilot]

@wanton jungle hello! Any progress on Flywheels?

[fast plaza]

If you are looking for an update for experimental, don't bother. He prefers to stick to the stable branch when modding.

[wanton jungle]

Yea it’s unlikely to get an update before 1.0 hits general availability. There’s been a LOT of major changes to the modding workflow since I last looked at it, so it’s been a bit of a battle to figure it out I’m afraid

[vital pilot]

No worries. Yeah, the change with TimberAPI was a huge one. Thanks for the update!

[wanton jungle]

Yeah there’s also the swap over to using blueprints rather than raw prefabs, taking a bit of time to get used to and figure out

[fair solar]

No guarantee but bobingabout has been working with another modder and might be a good resource if you get stuck

[wanton jungle]

Public Service Announcement

I'm sorry to say but I've made the decision to officially hang up my proverbial hat for the foreseeable future. Long story short, I burnt myself out and haven't been able to catch up since. Maybe (hopefully?) I'll get 'the itch' back - been having great fun with the new HTTP automations - but for the meantime, I'm calling time out on Flywheels.

I'm not going anywhere - I still love the game - but it's more appealing to me to play the game rather than mod the game.

If there is anyone that would like to take over the mantle, or would like me to share any assets from the mod, let me know and I can send them over.

See ya around

[mortal jetty]

If no one want to take over, I'd like to try

cause I love this mod and my beaver need more energy storage 😄

[tame lion]

Take care mate 💖

[wanton jungle]

More than happy to provide the assets and source code if you'd like

[mortal jetty]

would be great, so I don't need to start froim scratch and have the assets, as I'm bad with images

[tranquil tusk]

note for AlkHacNar there will be some learning and work to get both project and code up and working

[wanton jungle]

Yeah, when I say "assets" I mean the raw images, meshy, and c# files - that's all

[tranquil tusk]

need to setup modding env (unity editor) but there is a video guide in pinned message in #🤖mod-creators

[mortal jetty]

I know, but hey, I don't have time to speed run smb3, but modding flywheels? I find time 😄

wanted to start trying the new features, but that comes later

and now I have a reason more, why I needed my 2,8k new PC ^^

[slender pine]

All the best man!!!! Take care and enjoy :D
We are all here to enjoy first all things later

[mortal jetty]

it's just I don't know how to upload it later, but thats a future Alk his problem 😄

[wanton jungle]

I can help with that, that bit's super easy

[tranquil tusk]

Start with getting the official modding env working and if you get that working its worth going forward
you will also need to setup codeing tool
think some use rider and some VS code

[mortal jetty]

installing the right version right now 😄

[tranquil tusk]

note live version of modding env is for experimental version of the game

[mortal jetty]

omg, visual studio needs an update 😄

ok, I'm ready for the the raws

[wanton jungle]

sent 🙂

[mortal jetty]

quick question, does it matter if I have the gog version of timberborn, or do I need the steam version?^^

[wanton jungle]

As far as uploading to the workshop goes, yes, but unsure about the rest - I've only ever used the steam version

You should be able to dev in the gog version at least

[fast plaza]

It should only matter for uploading to the workshop.

[sonic stump]

could always put your mods up on github or smth

and let people fork it

[wanton jungle]

Yeah I think that might be the way to go with it

Just gotta be careful to strip the TB assets

[sonic stump]

yea

could always ask the TB dev team about that to make sure

[vital pilot]

I can host the original version on my GitHub, in case others want to try and tackle it as well.

[candid echo]

Battery_smooth, sorry to hear you're letting go of your tail here, i really loved the mod and the work you put into. It remains one of the most "what seems like a 'built-in game' but is actually a mod" mod and this is 100% it. I recall writing you a big review because it genuinely revitalized a lot of enjoyment in timberborn after being a bit burnt out on it.

Hope things go well for you IRL and someone carries on your proverbial torch well!! 😄

[mortal jetty]

OK, I have less time atm as I though, but I have vacation from 16.3., not it's not because of the 1.0 release^^, so I have time in 2 weeks

And I can look into the new automation working with it too

[silent oyster]

@wanton jungle Thank you and take care and recover. We are all grateful for this mod.

@mortal jetty looking forward to what you’ll do.

[candid echo]

Look forward to see what you got 😊

[mortal jetty]

Vacation, finally, from tomorrow on I try to get the flywheels to run again

Today smb3 speedrun training is a must. Skipped last Sunday xD

[grave niche]

Good luck, looking forward to having these back in the mix

[wanton jungle]

Flywheels (On Hiatus)

[woven jetty]

Just had a bit of a panic when I saw that the Flywheel mod was removed from the workshop. Happy to see that someone has taken over its development.

[formal parcel]

Gonna miss my favorite power mod, hopefully it will be back soon.

[vital pilot]

How's the progress going @mortal jetty? Need any assistance?

[magic hinge]

my heart broke when I saw flywheels fell off the map. this is, and always have been, one of my go to mods before the 1.0 update instead of the gravi batteries.
I wish both battery and alkhacnar good health always

[wanton jungle]

Flywheels

[hoary coral]

[flint linden]

https://klipy.com/gifs/hold-me-back-dont-do-it

[leaden dock]

[magic hinge]

[wanton jungle]

So, turns out all it needed was some relief of pressure to get back the itch!

Flywheels v 4.1.0.0, compatible with Update 1.0, is now available on Steam and Mod.io

[wind holly]

https://tenor.com/view/sha-definitely-no-gif-18380924

[wanton jungle]

It's just base factions currently, though modded factions will be coming shortly

[candid echo]

Hey Battery, really excited to see this up to date for 1.0!!

I tried loading up the game, a fresh playthrough of a map and ONLY this mod and encountered an error

[wanton jungle]

which map?

[candid echo]

spillage

folktails, normal

[wanton jungle]

[woven jetty]

Check the template files, you may have forgotten to put #append in there

[candid echo]

I just tried Oasis and waterfalls map, same thing lol

[wanton jungle]

Ah, yeah no the template editor panel likes to remove the #append

it is, in fact, a missing #append. I'll put it back (for the 4th time )

[woven jetty]

Yeah... any time you edit that file with unity it removes it...

Thats why I just edit that file manually now

[wanton jungle]

Thing is, I didn;t even edit it in unity, probably just accidentally opened it

got darn

Done

[candid echo]

I was thinking Spillage or Oasis were a good map to try out, given the lack of regular water power but the presence of geothermal power would make it interesting.

Works currently for me, gonna try loading up a few other mods to see if it plays nicely lol

[woven jetty]

Oh how I missed the flywheels! Its so amazing to have them back!

[wanton jungle]

I’ve got more content planned for them too, hopefully I can get on that one soon

[woven jetty]

I'm already putting the mod to good use lmao

[magic hinge]

Le gasp! Could it be??

I am driving home, recklessly, to try it on my 1.0 colony with other mods. Will revert back here if any errors come up

[magic hinge]

update y'all. the mod works beautifully even with other mods! 😄
we just gotta wait for a few of them to be compatible (e.g. More Groups)

[brave zealot]

So exciting. I've subscribed but I'll have to leave it disabled until it supports the 3 modded factions. I am just thrilled to see it alive again!

[tranquil tusk]

disable template validation for all but building blueprints 😉

[cobalt orchid]

and/or handle #append in a better way

[tranquil tusk]

when its validating blueprints atm and finds #append it removeds it
its created a ticket so hopefully it will be fixed

[cobalt orchid]

What's not compatible about this and More Groups?

[tranquil tusk]

does it not group or is it that this mod had it before and it do not have lukes toolbar mod or support?
could check on adding it to more groups as i have a needed update there 2 but not sure i get it done before tomorrows vacation

[tame lion]

Oh boyyyyyy This is so awesome

[tranquil tusk]

more groups is updated to group flywheels 🎉
(and more)

[tranquil tusk]

@magic hinge ^

[magic hinge]

Yayyy

[magic hinge]

Sorry it took me awhile to reply.. work was a bit rough today hehe

[tranquil tusk]

Np just wanted to give notice 😉

[formal parcel]

Flywheels are back!!! 🎉 🥳

[candid echo]

Sneak peak: Being able to "jump start" your (ancient) drill really is awesome. Instead of having to invest in a gravity battery (huge cost in science, and having to start up a metal production early), you can use the small flywheel to store even a meager amount of power to jumpstart your drill from empty and then let it run itself. This makes drills a ton easier to use early on.

[candid echo]

Medium horizontal flywheel really can fill in weird open spaces in your colony. Shown here, 2 of them hidden in between spaces where I couldnt really build anything else but resolved a power issue. Love it!

[wind holly]

The medium framed ones really are mvp

Just dig 3x3 with triples before laying in new industry, then you have a 45k unseen battery. Or slot them in as mentioned for some nice little 15k backups tucked away

But the smalls are accessible early enough to be useful too

The big ones are for showing off haha

[fair solar]

Usually are

[sonic stump]

thank you based battery smooth

[formal parcel]

i like to build them in my reservoirs, good way to make use of otherwise lost space since they don't flood or cost me any water capacity.

Same goes for Number Crunchers, I think of it as building a water cooled data center 😆

[fair solar]

Liquid cooled gpu

[candid echo]

My game isn't loading so i can't take a screenshot but

the addition of a clutch and a large framed flywheel battery, connected to an array of windmills allows for a specific use - to "pre-charge" your flywheel and then reconnecting to your power grid seamlessly. Pregenerating 150,000 HP is a ton of power but if you're able to disengage the clutch and let it purely store up before engaging the clutch again, you'll find yourself a system that has a TON of stored power on top of a way to add more power to the entire power grid!

[simple bane]

Quick Question, Not seeing flywheels in Ember Pelts or Leaf Coats. WIP?

[fast plaza]

Not included yet.

[simple bane]

Ahhh, OK. Just Making sure the problem wasn't on my end somehow. Thanks

[brave zealot]

Waiting patiently for the 3 mod factions to be supported. At least trying to be patient. 😛

[wanton jungle]

The leafy ones will take the longest for sure - I haven’t got textures for them yet so will need to figure out their colour palette

Ember will likely be first (already have the models) and then whitepaws

And the various greedy variants are just specification additions

[brave zealot]

Even after all the time this wasn't working, @obsidian pier never removed it as a recommended mod for WhitePaws.

I only got to use it in one run, and that was an EmberPelt run.

[wind holly]

Would be really cool if you did rounded medium ones that lay flat that had room for a loaded in the middle to be added right to a tree. But that's super wishful thinking lol

[brave zealot]

That would kick ass.

[fair solar]

Don't burn yourself out. Know that those of us who use these mods greatly appreciate the work you do. We know these are not required to play the game but they do enhance the game play and make it that much more enjoyable. take your time, we will be patient

[wanton jungle]

Oh don’t worry, I’m saving my energy to try and tackle the big one I can never seem to finish 😉

[wanton jungle]

[fair solar]

I feel like it's an IYKYK situation 😉

[wanton jungle]

Yeah I mean I thought I’d have that mod finished over a year ago and, well…

[wind holly]

Well I am now in the know

[simple bane]

Room for me in that IYKYK Tub?

[brave zealot]

I heard rumors of these guys. I know the name I was told. But I know nothing about them really. Did you have a color scheme you decided upon? My imagination went blue and yellow when I heard about him but I had no idea.

[wanton jungle]

Current working theme is teal and black, but all still wip

[brave zealot]

Oooh! I love that combo!

[fair solar]

Blue and gold like this beauty

[brave zealot]

I went for the storm deck from Culdcept, but same effect.

[fair solar]

These are some Flywheels... I'll see myself out

[fast plaza]

Teal and black…
If I see bright green with that, then I will be asking where the chrome crusher is.

[brave zealot]

@fast plaza is a DM okay? I'd rather not ask my question publically.

[fast plaza]

Go ahead.

[brave zealot]

Thank you

[tacit hound]

did you remove the flywheel junction?

[wanton jungle]

I did, although that's reminded me that removing them may affect saves, so I'll be adding them back in as a ||Dev mode|| only building for backwards compatability. They're not needed anymore after the changes to the mechanical shafts

[magic hinge]

funny. i just felt like deleting my save just now due to the update hahaha

cuz im gonna start from scratch in case some new update bugs my save

new map and stuff 😄

[wanton jungle]

To be fair I don't think many people will be bringing U0.7 saves over to 1.0, but I'd like to give them the option (even if I just remove them in a later version)

[magic hinge]

am here to maximize battery storage and ensure half my colony doesn't go out if and when wind and water power becomes unavailable 😄 hahahaah

without using the gravi batteries

[magic hinge]

that's a smart move battery. good on ya 😄

[sonic stump]

i kinda liked the junctions tbh

they look nice :9

[tacit hound]

yeah so did i but understand why they were removed it also means less work for battery

[sonic stump]

true...

[wanton jungle]

It’s also because in the past they were practically required since shafts couldn’t go vertically up, but now they can

[wanton jungle]

Flywheels v 4.1.1.14

• Added Junctions back in for backwards compatibility (these will be removed at a later date in a few updates time)
• Added Emberpelts support

[fast plaza]

Yay!

[magic hinge]

Emberpelts conquered! Good job battery

[sonic stump]

junction gang wins again

[brave zealot]

@wanton jungle Question: why would I -not- want a nice clean junction over this? I am curious your reasoning. (It is your decision, of course.)

[magic hinge]

What is this?? I'm curious lol

The platforms I mean

[brave zealot]

So I could put in a large flywheel on top of them.

maybe my phrasing was bad. instead of "over" replace with "in place of"

[magic hinge]

Oooh makes sense

I usually hide the horizontal batteries in the ground

Like the Folktail observatories

Keeping some out of sight and out of mind whilst still supplying my spaghetti noodle power network lol

[brave zealot]

On this map I could have dropped them into the badwater abyss. /laughs

[magic hinge]

Hahahaha huh. Never thought of it that way lol

[magic hinge]

Man that sea of bad water

[brave zealot]

This map is generating over 3,000 strength of bad water constantly.

[magic hinge]

POV: you fell into the bad water

[magic hinge]

How many bad water outlets do u have? 😮

[brave zealot]

Look at that fountain.

[magic hinge]

That's a lot of outlets.
*Furiously plugs them one by one if I could

[brave zealot]

Most are under a shell of varying thickness. But it has been breeched.

[magic hinge]

Hnnngh makes me want to plug them hahahahaha

And have batteries in the badwater abyss

[brave zealot]

Now that all the bombs have gone off, plugging this would be easiest.

The bombs (every 25 days) reshape the world considerably.

The starting area was right about where the circle is. It gets blown up along with most of that level.

[magic hinge]

The goal is up then

[brave zealot]

The top layer isn't safe, but it is the safest place. It still looses a large chunk.

[wanton jungle]

To be honest, I think it'd be too easy - at the stage when you're using large framed flywheels, I reckon there should be some work that needs to go into making them work

I can absolutely understand that you may prefer a more clean and solid base for them, but if that's the case then either dirt or levees would do the trick

[sonic stump]

I think my main use of them was for placing a number cruncher or observatory on them lol

Maybe keep them but just increase the cost

it's kind of useful actually to have a wide platform that can take power shafts from every side

can understand if you don't tho

[woven jetty]

Am I misremembering or In the old version, were there platforms that were also with the flywheels?

[wanton jungle]

That'd be the junctions which we were discussing above

[woven jetty]

Oh lmao

[flint linden]

I think the junctions are still useful, more costly than platforms and vertical shafts, but they fit the mod better tbh

More elegant

[vivid sentinel]

Battery, thank you for picking this mod up and bringing it to current. One of my most favorite mods.

[modern light]

So, to the author of the flywheel mod, for some reason it makes it so that you cant see the needed resources in the construction tabs

[wanton jungle]

Could you post a screenshot for me?

[cosmic hull]

Do you use Timprove 4UI mod ? If so, you need to scroll down to see the materials needed.

[modern light]

Give me a moment

strangly enough it only seems to affect the path and water structure categories, but it goeas away when i disable flywheels

[modern light]

ahh, i see that now, but why is it not a problem when the flywheel mod is off

[cosmic hull]

Only if is a lot of stuffs in the UI, the scroll bar becomed needed

[modern light]

Good to know