#hololive 6th fes. "Color Rise Harmony"
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his smile and optimism instantly gone 
caught skipping work ahh dawg
Holy shit
Only had creators this year but sat near the center stage and who else but my 2 favs showed up in the cube 
Screamed for Towa until I tasted blood
Are you okay...?
at least we have caedrel lookalike 
Yeah I'm not crazy he looks like caedrel
careful now we cant anger DJPiesauce again
😄
She's still just barely the same height as them 
This looks like the representatives of Red and Blue performing a summoning to create the colour purple
Its 4am and i'm still awake from the hype. Wtf

Maybe i should call in sick and spend the day rewatching fes vods
"hey doc can you write me a sickleave letter?" - "why?" - "post-fes depression" - "understandable" 
I yelled "NNNNOoooooo" when I passed that dude
rewatching so i can get a new header for my twitter and im crying again dfhjakldkldsf flower rhapsody makes me cry man
just finished watching the 3rd stage...is this the first FES where they didn't sing Shiny Smiley Story?
Day 3 let's go 
https://x.com/tsuki_nonono/status/1898248411402715563
https://x.com/tsuki_nonono/status/1898349968710365670
https://x.com/tsuki_nonono/status/1898653189039144991
https://x.com/tsuki_nonono/status/1898726888803352620
My friend is the one with the Nene happi
We even made a meme sticker of him from last year's concert
Ok, so something I'm curious about: for people who were there in person, do the screens in the cube look a lot different from the main stage screens, like is there more of a holographic effect?
it kinda looks the same for be but in got 3 angles happening at the same time
1 front
2 back sides
Thanks!
Well not quite
Its basically a triangle with like 3d viewing angles like
But the talents do turn around so just one front isnt exactly correct
You can basically pretend it is holographic coz how they presented it. Techincally it is 1 front, 1 side, 1 back
the kaigais also acted like those minions whenever it goes down
Is there any reason why they named it Creator's Stage? Was it explained for JP audience?
I haven't heard any explanation, but I assume it's a stage for talents who's down for additional performance. Or maybe chosen to do additional performance
This is what they say about Creator's Stage on the fes website
Creators as in songwriters
I do have a picture of what the stage look like
It can depend on your position I think, I was close to the center screen so the black barriers in between the screens were a few seconds where we technically get a "blind spot"
but I've talked to someone else who was further from the center screen and they said it's a bit more seamless
But essentially, it's a big screen slightly elevated above (maybe 2-4ft?) from the floor (the one all the band members is performing), then you have the two TV screen that's much more high quality on each of the side.
There's also a slight delay between the main screen and the two TV (the TV was like .500ms ahead)
couldn't get a good view of the center main screens cause there were a bunch of tall people in front of me 
Also not sure if it's just me but the main screen feel like it doesn't produced any shadow 
Depend on where you at, and who's in front and behind you
Well
Gedyged said that he was close to the center
and seeing the distance from any of the stages
Seems kinda hard to see
ScreenA 1 2 3 4 Center 5 6 7 8 9 ScreenB
If you imagine it like this, I was at roughly between 7 and 8. I was able to see the talents very well (aside from the minor facial expression), but ScreenA, I was still able to see them, but it's just the movement I'm able to see, nothing else (so I'd have to rely on the big screen)
I see
well for streaming the only problem i had was the camera showing WAY TOO MUCH of the crowd
what should have, but it was too much
Also they are small on ScreenA, like if I were to extend my hand all the way straight and do a thumb up, the talent would roughly be about as big as the thumb - the finger nail
Hope that give you a rough visual idea
Oh and it also depends on where you're at the other way too
I was roughly in the center, just a bit more to the right, and it was still good for me
But can't say the same for people sitting in the far left/right
MiComet as start or ending
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49
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MiComet is fucking dead
Nice one Tact
I forgot to close it
You can't close poll
Oh shut it
im rewatching 3rd fes and good lord it looks and feels so primitive compared to 6th fes 
fes still looks primitive compared to all the sololives from the past 2 to 3 years
i feel like you have to always give up that solo live quality when you throw in 50 talents
I wished they'd do 1 thing: Add either back the non-moving view or remove the crowd entirely and just only show the AR view
Bloom was literally just a screen
I love that dude
omg this shot from management is so cool
Our dude representing all of us!
This year with the TV in the middle is honestly so cool
Now if only they can make it into an actual box
Feels like Stage 2 got kinda shafted. It was the most dance-abled stage but got the worse camera cuts. Got the short straw of one less Holomem performing. And looking back at the setlist, it only got two medley performances (one solo, one group) versus three in the other two stages. (Stage 1 had two solos, one group. Whereas stage 3 had 1 solo, 2 groups.)
But still prob my fav stage in the end this FES.
So.. what time is the 4th stage 
God forbid any of the talent moves or does a cool move. Suddenly huge wide shot or super zoomed in
That Luitomo rep during Lui's MC
https://x.com/MOAI0k0k/status/1898913910826443197
https://x.com/MOAI0k0k/status/1898992985897111919
To everyone who complained about III abuse during Fes, here's a counter-rebuttal with Suisei 
As a Hoshiyomi fan, I have no complain
I think what got most ppl confused is that III was sung twice in the same Fes
Especially those who watched all stages
marine explained it in her stream from what I understood, she was paired with Kobo and they thought of doing III but management decided on their creator stage performance and also chose III but both not knowing what the other chose and only found out after it was decided 
what is you guys opinion the highlights and/or most memorable moments of fes this year? from the top of my head: i really liked korone's solo, okakoro's performance(that may be nostalgia speaking since i was watching the bonfire stream in 2020) and bae's performance was also really good.
as a takodachi i must also mention ina's aishite performance
I can't honestly decide yet, there was so much happening that was amazing
and I was sleepdeprived because 1st part was 5am and 2nd part 10 am both days 
same, i went to bed early in hope of getting some sleep and crossing fingers that i managed to hear the alarm i set so i could watch it at 5, i managed to see most on time but woke up a bit late for stage 2 and missed an hour of it, i need to rewatch when i am more awake to see what else really stuck out this year
middle stage lights up
kaigais be like:
As someone who watched only stage 3: OkaKoro, this was peak of the peak (also Kronii singing Lolikami
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ここがEXPO3日目なのかもしれない
コスプレエリア⚔ソウルキャリバー会場
どんなやつらがやってくるのか
たのしみだにぇ!!!!!!!!!!!!
なんと今年初キャリバーらしい
腕なまってないよなぁ・・・・?????
対戦よろ!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quoting さくらみこ🌸1st Album『flower rhapsody』発売中 (@sakuramiko35)
🌸このあと21時15分から🌸
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⚔ソウルキャリバーⅥ⚔
視聴者参加型キャラクリ大会
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コスプレ会場・・?それが俺たちのキャリバー。
かかってこい!!!!!!!!!
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Day 3

My personal highlights: Moona's solo, Advent's Rebellion, Bae's solo, Risu's solo, Kobo & Marine's MC session, Kronii's loli kami, Okakoro's If
I am biased so ofc I will go for NeneFWMC girafa coz I danced and cried at the venue camera director apparently messed up Nene's dance focus during her stage 1 performance
rewatched her solo and they definitely did
Roboco's solo was absolutely incredible, but Ina's performance right after that marked the start of an emotional turn during Stage 3. Ina impresses me more every new performance: she puts so much work in over the years and she's become such a dazzling performer. I was already welling up from that when Gura came on stage and, uh, yeah. Everything after that seemed imbued with significance and nostalgia. Even Aki's hips.
(No really, seeing her and Choco together reminded me of their Crazy Beat in last year's Stage 1 – ah, nostalgia)
Man, it's so hard to tell the shape of this thing! It really does almost look like a cube in this shot
Dont you hate it when they put a dance move in the middle of your 15 second overhead crowd shot
Praying for updated SPWN VOD with better camera angles before the deadline 
i think they should have directors involved in rehearsals. w/someone like Bae it feels a bit more egregious because she's well known as a dancer, but everyone puts so much effort into these performances every year and it makes sense that directors go in with some idea how best to capture each
Actually they might already be making edits. Stage 1 media URL is grpday1-stage1-v2. The rest look like they're still v1 though. 
Wait do the live and the Blurays not have the same camera angles? I thought the Blu-ray and live were 1 to 1 except for some song banner edits
No the bluray have quite a few differences
Like gura's part having very different audio mixing in 4th fes
And they ||removed the kaigai niki completely
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Yeah, I worked at a live event production company for a while (not vtuber related) and editors for the final video would often use the streaming camera director's cues as a skeleton but because they have the advantage of working in hindsight they'd make a lot of changes to improve the impact or to better capture part of a performance
I'm slowly going through each of the concerts, and I have a good feeling Stage 1 will end up being my favorite. I kinda knew it at the time as the days went on. A lot of my favorite members were on different stages, but the song choices just hit for me.
I will say though my favorite MC moments all came from Stage 2. Marine and Kobo were hilarious, Iroha was really cute with Lui, and I always love seeing Bae and Calli together. Those are at least the ones that I remembered the most.
Also keep in mind that they also have stage centric angle shots that they used for the smaller monitors for stage audience. Those shots can be used to replace the "bad" ones in the BD
Hello guys, can I ask if there is a list of all the songs performed at the festival in English someplace?
Thank you.
#setlist-channel message
English is in ()
Thank you for the support!!!!
i wish they put Po before the group song on stage 2 like they did Stellar Stellar in stage 1
SPWN VOD GOT UPDATED
THIS IS NOT A DRILL
WHAT THE FUCK
BAE GETS A BACKSHOT FOR THE LAST FRAME OF HER PERFORMANCE
YOU CAN SEE BANCHOU CHOREO
Hot
KIARA'S CHOREO HAS MORE ASS SHOTS
is stage 1 vod longer or shorter now
can't tell
if the duration changed it's probably the loading screens or ending screens
i see more dancing in the cube parts
maybe this is the beta testing for blu ray/joysound release 
lots more ririka dancing
Post production is possible thanks to the UE4 engine for the 3d models which includes movement mapping. I'm suspecting they have a ton of A-Rolls and B-Rolls to implement on top of that.
fes is still unity
Oh it is?
Connect the world gave the vod the Pop team epic treatment

Has anyone been able to save the VODs for fes? It looks like SPWN changed how they're distributed (vod.spwn.net -> vod.spwnlive.net and spwn-vod -> spwn-vod2) and it's no longer compatible with the old method for downloading the MPEG-TS format using ffmpeg.
streamlink spwn plugin still works
yt-dlp also works
How many edits have they made so far? And do we think there's anything else they might still change? Waiting to download until I know everything is finalized
in the past they've announced when the vods have been edited, but they haven't said anything yet so maybe hold on a while
i imagine they'll probablyyyy say something by tomorrow since it's been a week?
which stage VOD got updated?
I use yt-dlp with --downloader ffmpeg --hls-use-mpegts, which is what isn't working anymore for me. I tried omitting the flags, but it didn't work either. I'm pretty sure it's not a browser cookie problem. Even when it managed to look like it was downloading something (wasn't able to get it to do it again), it was just a stream of "failed to open segment" errors.
that was only for CTW because the camerawork is horrendous and talents are complaining openly about it
Minor fix like this usually are not announced. I remembered they also did the same for Capture the Moment and Breaking Dimensions but never announce it
Then again I wish they did announce it, since the better camerawork really improves the viewing experience.
I was hoping they would do this. I'm really happy that they are. 
and have people spamming the replies saying "I didn't notice the change.. do more"?? 
they can cut the ads at the start
They changed how the requests are done, which oddly makes it simpler. The command I use is yt-dlp --embed-metadata --embed-thumbnail --merge-output-format mkv "Copied_Url" with no cookies needed, since the cookie data is copied inside that url request. Add a -F if you want to find all the formats supported since it doesn't select the best audio one automatically.
quite improvement indeed 
https://imgur.com/EJxjcyG
Sheesh I guess I know what I'm watching today.
Why is nerissa looking more 3D than calli
they see you guys meme about them so they get cut
i mean the original wasnt bad
for this shot in particular, can't speak for the rest of the VOD
I figured it out! Like you said, --cookies was no longer necessary thanks to the info being in the URL, I didn't need to use the ffmpeg downloader either. The important thing was that I wasn't copying the URL correctly because the text I was copying from wasn't percent encoded properly. Now, even though it still warns about live HLS stream support, it still downloaded and merged the video and audio files correctly. Thank you! 
You still only need the link for the .m3u8 file right?
Yeah, but because of the new policy and signature fields, there are some special characters in the link which I was copying that weren't percent-encoded. I was highlighting and copying the full link in the headers tab, but that link was percent-decoded.
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stage 2 - 2h 47 min
stage 3 - 2h 56 min
creators stage - 2h
total: 10h 34 min
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Idk if this is a hot take or not but honestly I didn't find the camerawork this fes really that bad at all 
Its not like CtW level where they clearly missed entire portions of the performance for crowd shots, I feel like they actually have listened to feedback and toned down the amount they cut away from the stage compared to previous years
CtW really set the bar for how bad it can get 
"At least it's not CtW levels of bad"
This year's fes camerawork wasn't great, but it also could have been so much worse. I'm just happy we have SPWN VOD updates that make them even better. 
camerawork wise vanilla CtW is on a level of its own
I also don't mind those wide stage shots where you can see the background and all of the effects as much as some people do, those are also part of the spectacle imo. I think the camerawork for an event like this would be boring if it were just a zoomed in shot of the virtual stage the entire time, we've actually gotten that before because 1st gen and 3rd gens lives didn't show any irl stuff on the stream at all, and it was kind of disappointing imo
I don't think anyone really complains about full stage shots. It's the audience only shots where you can't see the talent performing that really makes the 💢 appear.
Yah I get that, though I felt like there weren't as many of those this year which I guess is what I'm trying to say
In fact I wish there were more full stage shots sometimes so we can see all the cool effects and stuff too. 
Like they are listening to feedback imo
Except this year's "front stage camera" was kinda low and kept getting blocked by audience members waving penlights and stuff 
Really got the "people in front of you are taller" pov in the stream this year 
i still stand by my point that known dancers with complex choreography should have very little to no crowd shots at all, you should be able to see the stage and the performer for the majority of the performance. Before the VOD updates, performances like banchou or kiara didn't have their choreo shown, so the fixes we have now are awesome to see
on that note not all crowd shots are bad
you took the gif right out of my mouth
Can't get moments like this without having some audience shots. 
Yah I agree with that, it really does depend on the performer as well, and it helps if the camera people know their choreo. Like for some I think they actually do so they can time the camera to not miss stuff like Korone's flips, so they definitely should be able to focus on the stage for dance heavy choreo 
This hasn't failed to make me laugh whenever I see it
i can +1 this with bae's GEKIRIN performance in breaking dimensions as an example
even though bae specifically requested that the camera stayed on her the whole time, we still got some amazing crowd shots which IMO showed how hype the crowd was
it helps if the camera people know their choreo
When the talent starts going "YEAH YEAH"while running around the stage that's probably a good time for a crowd shot
I guess it's not like I felt like the camerawork was above criticism this year, but I saw so many people dunking on it with memes and stuff to an extent where I really felt like "It wasn't that bad" 
CtW changed us...
but yeah i definitely agree that i could be in the middle of vibing with the performance but then i get taken out of it whenever someone points out a camerawork thing that i didn't think was that bad
there are obviously some exceptions to this because some performances got it REALLY bad compared to others
Still one of my favorite moments out of all the holo fes concerts so far.
i remember being broke gang and staring at concert chat as all of the gifs and screenshots come by
Rebellion in Breaking Dimensions is my counterpart example for this
The new AR camera angles, the EN debut, Kiara setting the stage on fire, the audience going wild... it was a perfect moment. 
the camera work of stage 2 is so much better on the vod or it s me ?
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
yeah i just kind of scroll through the vod while using the setlists for reference
me watching risu, damn best queen she is, twitter same time : risu posing in front of her dug out (drawn) pp in the game
gap moe
6th fes's was better imo
performance wise
the one in breaking dimensions is easier to refer to because its free
you can see the entire crowd literally rising with every DANCE DANCE DANCE and JUMP JUMP JUMP that goes out
i am not only a free can see person
Finally getting to watch the updated VODs. They really changed a lot with the performances that were in the cube. At least from the two I've watched so far.
Unfortunately some good shots are just ruined from the camera being unable to focus, but overall I'm really happy with the changes.
lingangu
Just a clarification, the 1st gen live didn't have a crowd, because of COVID restrictions
I agree with your opinion about camerawork overall though
Ok yah I see now, I probably remembered them announcing in person tickets but not the part where they cancelled that 
Personally, I feel like fes stages should focus more on a mix of audience interaction and talent performances. As for 3D lives, that’s where I prefer to see all the crazy dance moves
the reason for the stream is to give you same experience as audience in the venue so there are lots of shots to emulate the atmosphere a bit even when you are watching from home
then the VOD will give you more fixed camera on stage
and yeah.. 3D live is focusing on talent and background visual effect
yep
I guess the best way i would put it is just:
"You can see your talent do a flip and cool dance every now and then, but you can only see live audience go nuts over it once a year"
yeah i think every creators stage performance of a song from 4th fes was better
I absolutely agree with this because i think the live performances would feel boring if we didn't have audience response or interactions on screen to convey the hype that's happening in the venue
on that note, there are plenty of ways to show both the talent's performance and the hype of the audience simultaneously
am rewatching 4th fes
i think occasional crowd shots are still fine for most performances, but for dancers like bae and banchou who have choreographed almost every inch of the song they should remain visible no matter which angle on the camera you have
there are parts better than I remember and songs i like more now
but the camerawork is worse than I remember too tbh
7th fes: introducing the half price streaming ticket where you can only see the crowd
maybe one day we can get only pillar shots
speaking of camerawork, I'd like them to show the band on camera more often
during solo lives they always include some band shots, especially if there's a guitar solo, a part when the drums stand out, and so on
but at fes for some reason they don't do that, you only see the band in the background if they happen to be in the frame
yeah the band solo parts in sololives are awesome
just having a live band in fes at all is enough for me but a band solo would be an absolute win in my book
this would be a great April fools joke, release the whole concert for free but it's just a pillar cam and a random mic in the middle of the audience 
this unironically sounds like membership content for the official hololive ch.
But then it wouldn't be free
true
7 minute mayu to kokoro at budokan 
Actually the updated vod also added crowd shots in certain places so that could also be why 
Stream Zeta's Break it down on Youtube and watch her performance in SPWN VOD. Everyone should see her her body rolls
banger song btw
How does this cat secret agent continue to activate many neurons
New VOD def has better cuts overall but there is a at least one bad cut that got mixed in. Thats during Ao's performance. Theres a weird glitchy cut and then Ao is suddenly on his knee. The original Im sure showed him transition into the knee bow.
smh
Ao successfully deceiving you 
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just found this shot in the Creator's Stage yt vod
brat in frame while bae is performing is great timing
3 days until the vods are gone
I almost forgot to download, thanks for the reminder
running into this error all of a sudden, even though i'm using the exact same method i used for prior spwn vods. did the method change? i've noticed the URL is ridiculously long now, does that have anything to do with it?
how are you putting the command
yt-dlp https://the.url.goes.here --cookies "cookies.txt" --downloader ffmpeg --hls-use-mpegts
make sure to quote the url, and the way they changed it is the cookie is now in it so you don't need to use cookies
yt-dlp "https://the.url.goes.here" --downloader ffmpeg --hls-use-mpegts
should work
that's why theres a policy= and signature= part now
hmm
it's running now, but I'm getting a bunch of "HTTP error 403 forbidden" "Failed to open segment 89 of playlist 0"
ok it's running now, but it does give me a warning about not supporting HLS streams and suggests i add back all the arguments i just deleted
it was also stuck for while in a loop where it would just say
[hls @ <numbers>] Opening '<url>' for reading
[hls @ <numbers>] Skip ('#EXT-X_VERSION:4')
(when i ran it with the other arguments)
its assuming its a livestream which is why it warns you of hls stuff, but its a vod so you're fine
ah alright
well it's 30% done with this first vod so i'll leave it be and check back when it's finished in case something still seems amiss
There are 3 different audio streams with implied quality names as well
Make sure when copying the URL it is still percent encoded. Don't highlight and copy the decoded URL text preview.
This detail gave me the most trouble when trying to figure out how to use the new link format. There are special characters in there which don't work if they aren't escaped properly.
You still need get strongly recommend to use the --downloader ffmpeg and --hls-use-mpegts flags.
Okay, maybe not quite "need", but the downloader will be happier if you do. 
well when i tried with them it was doing that for a while and then seemed to get stuck in an endless loop of this
I think that might be due to the credentials being expired. Try refreshing the SPWN page and getting a new link.
i'll let it finish what it's currently doing and see if the resulting vod still turns out fine
If it still doesn't work after that, idk. 
it downloaded one mp4 at 6.68 GiB and then automatically moved on to what i assume is one of the audio files mentioned previously (though even though the file name mentions audio, its extension is still .mp4, so i'm a little confused, but this is admittedly not my area of expertise)
ok it finished downloading that and merged them into one mp4. briefly panned through and it appears to be fine?
if you could elaborate on what you mean by three audio files, i'm not sure what you mean. do i have to manually download them separately with yt-dlp?
tried doing it with the stage 2 vod. getting the same "Failed to open segment ## of playlist 0" error as before, though weirdly now it gives a mix of HTML error codes 500 and 403. occasionally also hits me with a "keepalive request failed for '<url>' when opening url, retrying again with new connection". after a few minutes it went back to the same loop of messages in my screenshot above
i mean, it does appear to be downloading something regardless of all those errors. the leftover .part file after interrupting the command has a size of several MB
Uh what version of ytdlp are you using
whatever version i downloaded in 2023. don't think i've ever updated it
No not really its more of a "quality" thing. It auto downloads the normal one so you're okay
Yeah that might break some things
A lot has changed depending on how old it is
last time i used it was for breaking dimensions and it was working then
Yeah do a quick yt-dlp --version just as a check
2023.07.06
makes sense since i first got it after ctw
whatever version of ffmpeg i have will be that old as well
Okay dang yeah an upgrade is needed for that
It might fix some stuff hopefully. yt-dlp -U is the normal way
in the middle of downloading stage 2 without the extra arguments but after that i'll give it a try 
is this supposed to update ffmpeg as well or do I need to do that separately? google search results claimed it updates both but the Date Modified fields on my ffmpeg exes haven't changed
So I just purchased holofes 6th stage 3 from SPWN, and I'm trying to work my way downloading it.
I downloaded yt-dlp but I don't know how to use it...
Can I please get some help 
I used the Stream Recorder extension
@tough vigil which one?
I'm rewatching stage 1 while also opening Justice watchalong VOD
I can't handle Kronii's expression 
She pretended to be surprised on all song performances
man... no one know back then that her performance would be the most remembered in 6th Fest 
TYSM, after going through several yt-dlp how to's and seeing your message, finally got it to work 
Imagine my shock when screen record failed me saying it was recording when it only got 12min / 4 hrs...
Can finally rewatch Okakoro If... the nostalgia hits hard 


Decent yt dlp tutorials usually get’s sniped by YT cuz it violates their tos. Glad you managed to get your vod tho!
No wonder, that's why I opted finding ones in reddit instead. But they assume you know how to get the links and use cmds so I couldn't get far. There was one I didn't try since it wasn't SPWN, had a good laugh while panicking
https://youtu.be/QnB5V3Qu5aw
got the exact same errors despite updating both yt-dlp and ffmpeg 
I downloaded stage 3 without problems, just running yt-dlp "url" -o "where to save"
yeah i have them all now doing it that way. just find it strange that adding the extra two arguments seem to break things now


