hololive Summer 2023 Live "Splash Party"

[spiral trout]

its jouver

[proud stag]

NOOOOOO

[lone summit]

advent free part over

[sonic narwhal]

oh nyo

[grand cove]

wait the mute is 15mins

[native aspen]

I slept early, thankfully

[tacit depot]

oof

[gaunt geyser]

[fossil summit]

hmmmm Otsu?

[granite radish]

https://imgur.com/iPoBpdG

[tropic cedar]

please dont get mute for nothing

[prisma talon]

https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1695413241319698729?s=20

hololive production (English) (@hololive_En)

[#hololiveSPDAY1 Viewers]
Due to Z-aN server troubles, this performance has been postponed.

We are deeply sorry for all those who have been looking forward to the concert.

After consultation, we will inform our fans regarding refunds and revised postponement schedule.

Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 12:29 PM

[leaden knoll]

otsu

[kind musk]

What are they saying someone translate is it not going to be today??????

[dusky compass]

The concert is over, and im going to lose mute roulette

[hot oyster]

its joever (postponed)

[haughty quest]

[noble abyss]

holy shit

[heavy loom]

refund refund

[shut galleon]

lmaooooooooooooo

[limber oyster]

https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1695413241319698729?s=20

hololive production (English) (@hololive_En)

[#hololiveSPDAY1 Viewers]
Due to Z-aN server troubles, this performance has been postponed.

We are deeply sorry for all those who have been looking forward to the concert.

After consultation, we will inform our fans regarding refunds and revised postponement schedule.

Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 12:29 PM

[cyan zodiac]

no we wait for gamba results first, the otsu

[inner prairie]

rip

[wicked cargo]

ON X

[silent seal]

On X

[wicked cargo]

SHE SAID X

[blissful nimbus]

My eyes are giving out

[grand cove]

[prisma talon]

I SAW THAT KYEL

[hard basin]

aw man

[limber oyster]

WAIT

[prisma talon]

YOU RE-PINNED YOUR OWN VERSION DIDN'T YOU

[limber oyster]

FUCK

[west plover]

pls don't be postponed for forever

[limber oyster]

LMFAO

[hard kelp]

LMAO

[frozen oyster]

OMG

[wheat flame]

kyel pls

[remote hemlock]

Enjoy the mute, @frank oriole @spiral trout @thorn sleet @river pollen.
You will be muted for 15 minutes and also will lose all your current points.

80 people will get 85 points.

4 people lost the roulette, while 80 people survived.

Losers:
asteralcor, hadizombie, d4rknessssss, jvlalic

Survivors:
arealfake, kler.yy, absolutelyright, melissachase, hiyuki445, gundamprime, ishgami, traxios, hailegg, WoLoLoiK, meh17., rimmzzad0, ittikorn, nekomatakorone, roseykenzoku, krey, kagurane, rollingeyesfalldownthedragonwall, menardi, echinodermata, jingleberry, je_8659, badingading, resonancex, randomdentyne, ghastlyyokai, sword2810, apomason, meitary, kuraude, ryos1353, flesyz0169, noob39, ptactician, grandwind, .hakkai, captain_void, dakinecastform, spesialo, syurenvrchat, mxteries, dewakambing, maxlab116, orbzzz, takodachungus, jokyel, davido43, risbiantotri, hwikki, .arbula, arthaen, grge, edsky, aar, xd_antx, notsteve., zaydenykmn2, hoshinoaoi, letaali, trudwal, demicol, sirbrocklee, jamez9061, nathanaelsugiharto, r34fletto.jp, zhugeliang, sam449357, sekai43, kaizeshu, .9s, shapp, Hyaku, m1looo, platinumnic, vignedev, chocolatemelk, s.zeon, yeetdabkfp, toanduc, moistfishstick

[short flint]

lol

[west plover]

[fossil summit]

[cyan zodiac]

[median fern]

kyel

...

[hollow marsh]

Zan nen

[tacit depot]

LMAO

[cedar raptor]

Thanks Zan

[dusky compass]

I LIVED

[limber oyster]

mengo

[cyan zodiac]

🇱

[dusky compass]

first roulette ive ever lived

[tropic cedar]

getting muted for nothing

[tacit depot]

bye everyone

[sly jacinth]

OMG TWO GAMBAS IN A ROW IM GAMING

[strong flame]

guys I just jinxed it by postponed the event

[tacit rain]

rip

[wheat flame]

this channel has been a rollercoaster of emotion, isn't it

[gaunt geyser]

Auf Wiedersehen

[west plover]

do we wait?

[limber oyster]

see you whenever

[hot oyster]

see you whenever

[wicked cargo]

ASTER LOST

[proud stag]

otsukaresummer~~
I guess autumn is postponed
summer extended

[short flint]

man I feel bad for the holomem

[radiant cypress]

man....

[thick pasture]

why win if got none

[wheat flame]

we to the postpone, we to whoever got the L in gamba

[tropic cedar]

6am so its the real "sunshine" stage

[leaden knoll]

its ok this means summer isnt ending yet

[split inlet]

holy shit i survived

[fossil summit]

NO KOBO

[cyan zodiac]

same

[urban lintel]

i woke up at like 3 so this is nothing

[fresh badger]

Inb4 double concert tomorrow

[ancient shell]

I swear to fuck, if they reschedule it in a couple hours, when I'm asleep, I'm actually gonna rage

[hard basin]

so do i sleep or make breakfast

[candid wave]

SKEM

[past nacelle]

fuuuuck

[fossil summit]

its not over, Ancient man

[hard kelp]

good thing im not a gamba addict

[past nacelle]

I stayed up for No Reason

[supple cliff]

Sorry to the NA bros for staying up.

[leaden knoll]

its not going to be like that
its 9:30pm here in japan

[split bobcat]

https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1695413241319698729?t=vGkc-mnlKrqXXaiUTCjzuw&s=19

hololive production (English) (@hololive_En)

[#hololiveSPDAY1 Viewers]
Due to Z-aN server troubles, this performance has been postponed.

We are deeply sorry for all those who have been looking forward to the concert.

After consultation, we will inform our fans regarding refunds and revised postponement schedule.

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 12:29 PM

[past nacelle]

zzzzzzzzzzzz

[urban lintel]

slept early cuz i knew i had to be up early

[silent seal]

Really enjoyed the Holosummer stream today

[sly jacinth]

I almost called out of work for this. thank god

[prisma talon]

they'll give details about refunds later, jsut wait

[radiant cypress]

so err... should I refund or keep the ticket?

[arctic thistle]

I saw ZANLOSS in the chat

[zinc token]

well, night night everyone. see you hopefully tommorow

[tacit depot]

keep lol

[west plover]

wait can the concert still happen?

[stone badger]

I had oatmeal and coffee ready 2 hours ago to watch it as my breakfast entertainment

[compact meadow]

I really hope that they don't try and move things back 1 day. Because then I won't be able to watch them both live, because work

[abstract lion]

not today

[compact meadow]

I would prefer 1 week delay. But their is no best option

[oak vale]

Tomorrow also postponed?

[chilly nova]

Zan wanted to help you fix your sleep schedule, this was all for you

[short flint]

"the performance" is the two days? I guess we'll wait and see

[copper fog]

hope it’ll be fixed as soon as they can

[strong flame]

how about day 2? ???

[supple cliff]

Well, time to eat the rest of the snacks I guess.

[limber oyster]

if wording is reliable, then yeah it can still happen

[cyan zodiac]

the concert was the gamba we made along the way

[limber oyster]

just postponed, not cancelled

[noble abyss]

[stone badger]

I pray to god they don't throw it in the middle of the week

[candid wave]

rip bae soup

[grand cove]

rescheduled I think

[tacit depot]

otsukaresummer to everyone who had to suffer~ lol

[next galleon]

did it get delayed again

[noble abyss]

It's postponed

[rancid swan]

Tens of thousands of people watching the intro card for two straight hours. truly the troll of the year

[silent seal]

Zan-live when getting money from ticket:

Zan-live when people with ticket come to watch: Surprised Pikachu face

[plush stirrup]

they need to offer refund and reschedule.

[heavy loom]

delayed indefinately

[west plover]

oh so the refund is if you want one

[past sage]

dont forget, we once waited 6h for a :||

[zealous kiln]

I cant wait to see all the fanart of the servers being on fire

[tropic cedar]

there is some possibilities that tomorrow's stage will get postponed too if they dont know how to handle the load on their servers

[tiny pumice]

I don't see them doing one without the other

[gritty sable]

I'd rather they postpone rather than just go through with it

[tiny pumice]

I imagine the entire thing is pushed a week or more

[radiant cypress]

so as long as I have this ticket I still can watch the postponed one right? don't have to refund and buy another or something right?

[split inlet]

[tiny pumice]

especially if they're offering refunds

[supple cliff]

It's kind of a shame. It looked like the servers were getting better.

[chilly nova]

I mean, if it gets reschedule it means that it'll still happen, so don't think they need to refund

[silent seal]

TOMORROW

[visual pine]

I feel so bad for the talents

[limber oyster]

welp at least i wouldn't suffer with spotty connection now that it's postponed

[echo lotus]

i'm gonna angy if the reason zan couldn't the stream is whoever is supposed to green-light moar capacity is sleeping.

[urban lintel]

can't believe hololive summer is on indefinite hiatus 😔

[split inlet]

wrong channel
no body saw that

[strange magnet]

not just talents but the entire staff/engineering team too

[strong flame]

I'm glad this is only live stream
if this also offline event people will be so mad

[dusk kraken]

The swimsuit is too strong

[zinc token]

holofans proving once again to be to strong for our own good lol

[rancid swan]

Is it prerecorded or actually live?

[ancient shell]

Hololive delays an entire season

[thick plinth]

welp otsu everyone

[hard kelp]

yea... everyone prepared for it... the entire team and talents... viewers as well

[young sedge]

Feels bad for everyone

[silent seal]

NijiEN AR Live flashback

[limpid badger]

i think if it was an offline event they wouldve just started

[candid wave]

earth patch note : summer is cancel

[rapid brook]

fr

[next galleon]

ah shit postponed and reschedule

[west plover]

that's different though

[dusky compass]

towa in front of everyone else

[plush stirrup]

basically for any type of live, if you even postpone it a day, normally you need to offer refund since not everyone that buy the tix to watch on a certain date can watch on the next day or x date.

[young sedge]

Big L on Zan

[west plover]

this is straight up tech issues

[tropic cedar]

at least we got 2hr advent zatsu

[supple cliff]

Well, I guess my day just opened up.

BAU BAU!!

[silent seal]

BAU BAU

[next galleon]

BAU BAU

[sly jacinth]

BAU BAU

[fossil summit]

Otsu Advent

[past nacelle]

BAU BAU

[deep perch]

BAU BAU

[short flint]

BAU BAU

[west plover]

BAU BAU

[radiant cypress]

BAU BAU

[dusky compass]

BAU BAU?

[proud stag]

so should I just stay in this Z-an until Midnight happened tomorrow? or are they postponing both?

[drifting shale]

BAU BAU

[hard kelp]

BAU BAU

[kind musk]

BAU BAU

[deep perch]

so, it's not happening today, right?

[supple cliff]

BAU BAU.

[limber oyster]

wtf BAU BAU leaking here

[granite radish]

BAU BAU

[fossil summit]

Stinky Stinky!

[rapid brook]

change this channel's name to Bae Soup stream

[void cape]

bAU BAU

[dusky compass]

why we BAU BAUing now

[void cape]

Nope

[oak vale]

BAU BAU

[hard kelp]

Oh wait this is not the channel my bad lmfao

[split bobcat]

BAU BAU

[limber oyster]

it's not, it's postponed

[dull burrow]

zatsu finished

[young sedge]

Seems like reschedule to a new day

[west plover]

I am gonna continue listening to this stream

[past nacelle]

i saw people baubauing and it triggered a howl

[tropic cedar]

ok guy maybe you should open tomorrow's stage stream tab now so that you will be able to get right in there tomorrow

[dense beacon]

so is day 2 still going on as planned or is that postponed also

[supple cliff]

II worked for two hours to get the stream link open and I'll be damned if I'm closing the tab now.

[silent seal]

WDYM I just watched the live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQuFRSi5ebc

[karmic zinc]

Imagine the girls in their mocap suit for 2hrs waiting for the concert to start

[proud stag]

leak over here too

[fallen elbow]

zan chat going BAU BAU

[echo lotus]

i'm not leaving unless zan kicks me out of their servers

[radiant cypress]

god imagine the logistic to reschedule this many amount of talents to another day

[supple cliff]

BAU BAU shall inherit the Earth

[plush stirrup]

even if you open the page early, since this seems to be a capacity issue, it won't matter.

[native aspen]

That’s a low bar to set

[tiny pumice]

especially the talents that FLEW OUT there SPECIFICALLY for this

I know Ina flew out for a single day

[rapid brook]

note to self: don't

[plush stirrup]

zan need to fix that first

[tiny pumice]

JUST for this

[candid wave]

uhh this is awkward, what we will do to this ?
can we monetize it ?

[supple cliff]

I heard the flight was delayed too.

[candid wave]

its still going tho...

[proud stag]

it is safe to say this is pre-recorded because it is the possible explanation of having courage to postpone this concert.
if the girls are there, they should keep going

[lime snow]

wtf i missed a gamba again

[prime tree]

i just realized that koyo cancelled her MGS stream for nothing

[cyan zodiac]

bruh the 4 dudes got muted for nothing

[light pebble]

advent woke up at 3am for nothing

[proud stag]

smh.. they are using Ame's time portal

[plush stirrup]

probably some part is prerecorded, some is live

[whole vapor]

Not just advent

[next galleon]

poor advent girl

[rapid brook]

yagoo:

[zinc parrot]

I assume tomorrow wont be happening too. they cant just be postponing day1

[whole vapor]

Though thank god they did that stream, they made being up at this hour worth it a bit more

[tropic cedar]

why is the free cant see stream still going

[gaunt geyser]

the only time where being in eu had an advantage, i just wasted a bit of my afternoon

[rapid brook]

https://vxtwitter.com/Umiboshi_/status/1695415217868689542

[silent seal]

I can only imagine how many angry X is going to be Xed for people who can't get in if they force it today

[stiff shell]

so if it's enough for Cover to tell the ticket buyer to ask for refund then z-aN might never gonna get another deal from Cover ever again.

[copper fog]

https://twitter.com/wagahaida_l/status/1695415669700055146?s=46

わが (@wagahaida_L)

運営さん大変なところアナウンスしてくれたぞおー！
早くみたいけど我慢〜
延期後が楽しみだぬ

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 12:39 PM

[gusty copper]

https://twitter.com/takanashikiara/status/1695415891347816714

Takanashi Kiara🐔6th July BIRTHDAY🎉 (@takanashikiara)

unfortunately its postponed for now :((((

my stream will be happening in any case!
https://t.co/tFQwG8O61R

Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 12:40 PM

[void wigeon]

They really need to let us know what this means for tomorrow though, can't just let it up in the air until the starting time

[supple cliff]

Tell me about it. I'm kinda scared they reschedule it for like Wednesday afternoon or something.

[tiny pumice]

The songs themselves, are usually pre-recorded. They're too perfect. The live interaction is live, and what's up to debate is whether the dancing is live and they're just 'lip syncing' to their own already pre-recorded song. But regardless, there does require an element of them 'being' there.

[ancient shell]

They probably don't even know tho

[noble abyss]

Yeah, they'll have to make clear what happens to day 2 asap

[heavy loom]

so anyone know what the refund process is like?

[heavy zealot]

The Zan chat going BauBau

[silk nebula]

Let them get a statement ready. It hasn't even been 1 hour

[sly jacinth]

https://twitter.com/SJtre3/status/1695400741983359146?s=20

SJtree (@SJtre3)

Z-aN LET ME IN
#hololiveSPDAY1

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 11:40 AM

[void wigeon]

Which is why the best thing is to just postpone

[ancient shell]

They probably need to discuss with z about what to do to make the live actually happen.

[young sedge]

well prolly know more in the next few hours

[gaunt geyser]

would suck, but thankyfully my work would most likly be flexible enough to make it still work

[cunning lintel]

Let's give them a bit of time for this one. Cancelling a big event is gonna be hell on their schedule so they need time to reorganize for a bit.

[silent seal]

Renting extra server still takes time so it is better to postpone

[tiny pumice]

If they reschedule, they'll either cram it all into a single day, or they'll push it to a weekend. I've never seen them do a concert this big during the week

[stiff shell]

ib4 they stream Day1 on 27th 1400 JST and Day2 on 27th 1800 JST

Enturance STREAM

[lean rivet]

asasplash party was lit today

[tough oyster]

Hololive have been winning non stop this year, the scale is balancing now lol

[tiny pumice]

I'm ready to endure!

[zinc parrot]

let the people rest

[cunning lintel]

....I mean, that's be proper for the names...

[silk nebula]

For once being in EU saves the day because its only 3pm now

[hollow halo]

What the fuck it still hasn’t started yet!?

[radiant cypress]

we probably need to wait for more info, like giving them times to sort it out with ZAN

[radiant cypress]

postponed

[proud stag]

I heard that JP, KR, CN have negative impression over lip synch so usually their idols won't do it. We don't know how many is live singing but if I relate this concert to the New Year concert, then all singing are pre-recorded and there is no interaction with chat.
well these are all just assumption so

[silent seal]

This situation is literally suffering from success

[tulip bay]

mfw connect the world was at 5am on a monday

[crude wave]

server of zan having skill issue

[urban quail]

ENDURANCE LIVE LES GO

[lean rivet]

kiara's stream in 3hours will be one for the ages

[fresh badger]

https://twitter.com/fuwamoco_en/status/1695416500017094744?t=SMLWA2hWrjijRSjB83QSCA&s=19

FUWAMOCO🐾holoEN (@fuwamoco_en)

Thank you for your understanding everyone! 💓

It’s too bad that we weren’t able to see our senpai shining on stage today, but now our excitement is even that much greater for the future!! ✨

#hololivesummer2023 doesn’t end until SPLASH PARTY happens!! BAU BAU⤴︎⤴︎🐾🩵🩷

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 12:42 PM

[copper fog]

Too slow

[tiny pumice]

It was on Sunday for me, I dunno what the problem was

😄

[ancient shell]

I mean, it's possible they could have this all resolved by tomorrow and join the concerts or something. Once they actually know what they are going/are able to do, then I would imagine they will say

[tropic cedar]

z-an needs some misunderstanding corner

[proud stag]

I think they have to scram this all in same day tomorrow

[gaunt geyser]

evening pst -> next day in europe

[warped perch]

It's Zanover for Zan, they won't financially recover from this

[shadow mist]

Wait the YouTube stream is still playing?

[fathom crypt]

it's Pero' fault

[silent seal]

Me taking a sick leave just to watch the live:

[whole vapor]

Advent handled this really well though, they were on top of relaying information on the live and rolled with the punches

[rare tangle]

Zanloss

[gusty copper]

https://twitter.com/nakiriayame/status/1695416653738389876

百鬼あやめ😈かわ世リリース！ (@nakiriayame)

😭😭😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 12:43 PM

[proud stag]

OJOOUUU

[radiant cypress]

if they cram all this in 1 day tmr, Imma have problem cause I won't be watching it at home tmr

[crude wave]

zan zen loss

[noble abyss]

Poor Ayame gets bad luck constantly

[cedar raptor]

Ayame despair (real)

[hollow halo]

So the concert is happening on another day then?

[thick plinth]

tell the boss you fine and ready for work again, but may take sick leave for tmr

[half tusk]

ZAN NEN

[tiny pumice]

I'm sorry Mr Yagoo, I don't feel so good

[ancient shell]

Because it'd be better to at least have day 2 go as planned and cram day 1 in prior to avoid refunding as many people as possible

[heavy zealot]

so zan still does too

[silk nebula]

I don't think they will be able to handle the traffic tomorrow. Moving it 1 week would probably be the best choice

[wispy mason]

If they cramp tmr I won’t have any sleep cause it start and 4 and probably end at 7-8 😅

[prime tree]

why is chat going so~ran! so~ran!

[supple cliff]

It's unlikely they'll do that, but I've just got well-trained EU paranoia.

[copper fog]

ojouuu

[past sage]

hmm, did zan kick the bucket?

[tiny pumice]

They'll need time to get more servers and increase capacity. That's not easy on the weekend of all things

[hollow halo]

YT still streaming.

[split bobcat]

I think the will postpone whole event, they can't solve this issues overnight

[river pollen]

dude i just wanna react to the news
and this happens

[frozen oyster]

I doubt they will make the event seperate

since its kinda weird to see a live one week after another etc

[fervent bough]

Thank you for the free 2 hours

[candid wave]

skill issue

[copper fog]

https://vxtwitter.com/sakamatachloe/status/1695417319152120054?s=46

[plush stirrup]

from my experience, normally an event scheduled for weekend when it ended up being rescheduled, it will be rescheduled to another weekend. It might move from Saturday to Sunday, but definitely not Monday to Friday.

[zinc parrot]

I dont think songs are prerecorded, specially for paid lives.

for celebrations that they do they do mention when the whole thing or parts of it are prerecorded.

[next galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointment-disappointed-food-review-meme-gif-16003613

[gaunt geyser]

can't watch because its at night is sadly the permanant state for eu

[radiant cypress]

Imma just prep some 4G for tomorrow just in case they do go the cramp route

[frank oriole]

I am free
Truly skill issue for me today

[fiery belfry]

zan is the no,1 thing i hate in life rn

[sonic narwhal]

there's backing vocal but K-Pop singers will still sing and you can hear them losing breath sometimes with harder dance moves

[spiral trout]

WE ARE FREE

[copper fog]

https://twitter.com/akirosenthal/status/1695417329285533939?s=46

アキ・ローゼンタール🍎新曲キミにまつわる運命事情/Aki Rosenthalホロライブ1期生 (@akirosenthal)

待機してくれてたみんなごめんね😭🙏

中止じゃなくて延期だから俺たちのホロライブサマーは終わらないってことー！？

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 12:46 PM

[tiny pumice]

Solo Lives I can believe are fully live. I watched Watame's and you could visibly hear her panting and running out of steam by the end.

[dusky compass]

gamba happened so my day is not ruined

[shadow mist]

At least the advent zatsudan soften the blow

[sly jacinth]

They postponed it for me since i worked today, sorry guys

[stiff shell]

Towa's live might effect if z-aN services not improved and prepared for hololive fan

[burnt river]

https://twitter.com/harusakinodoka/status/1695417451440492686

春先のどか📝ホロライブ新人STAFF (@harusakinodoka)

今日を楽しみに待っていてくださったみなさま、待機中盛り上げてくださったみなさま、本当に申し訳ありません…。
今後の対応などは、ホロライブ公式からの続報をお待ちください。

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 12:46 PM

[tiny pumice]

So... does this thread stay open until things get rescheduled?

[fresh badger]

https://twitter.com/tokoyamitowa/status/1695417314924228739?t=w3nFwJKz6D9tCOZzzwOakg&s=19

常闇トワ👾 (@tokoyamitowa)

運営さんからの全体連絡待ちで、
今日の配信どうするか検討中～！
みんな心穏やかにまっとってね～～～😎😎😎🫰

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 12:46 PM

[versed brook]

same logic applied to this then, since lot of people performing, so they can catch a break between the performance
like wtf is this comparison lol

[heavy zealot]

Solo live are fully live beause of the full music band

[sudden sleet]

i can't believe i could've finally had an applicable use for this one, if i had used it earlier...

[sly jacinth]

Free live is finally down

[past sage]

oh? YouTube down?

[cyan zodiac]

oga mtl too powerful

💀

[floral vine]

it's gone

[viscid olive]

ah youtube finally dead

[past sage]

ZAN still active from the looks of it

[tiny pumice]

youtube stream finally gone

[next galleon]

its mocover

[old turtle]

wait what happened i was pondering my orb

[gaunt geyser]

yeah the zan stream is still going

[echo lotus]

zan still waiting for the memo

[heavy zealot]

live postponed

[crude wave]

its mowari da

[young sedge]

Oh this might also affect the Blue Journey live huh

[sly jacinth]

how do we tell him

[floral vine]

I got autoplayed onto a hololive concert so really nothing is different

[grand raptor]

Wdym the live started a while ago

[tiny pumice]

So what this all means Is I'm gonna have to do the 100 tab spam on another day

sigh

[versed brook]

[plush stirrup]

don't spam tab pls

[fresh badger]

Tbf, Baelz still waiting

[echo lotus]

you don't need 100 tabs.i got in with one.

[versed brook]

yeah that spam tab is really helping lol

[warped sand]

welp - concert is cancelled

[sudden sleet]

depends on how quickly zan can learn from this, by mid-september

[umbral tapir]

https://twitter.com/achan_UGA/status/1695417299988251082
https://twitter.com/harusakinodoka/status/1695417451440492686

友人A(えーちゃん)👓hololive STAFF (@achan_UGA)

本日ライブが延期となってしまいました。
楽しみにしていただいていた方、長時間待機して盛り上げてくださった方、スタッフ一同解決に取り組みましたが、この夏のホロメンの晴れ舞台をお見せすることができず、本当に申し訳ございません。引き続き、公式からの続報をお待ちいただけますと幸いです。

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 12:45 PM

春先のどか📝ホロライブ新人STAFF (@harusakinodoka)

今日を楽しみに待っていてくださったみなさま、待機中盛り上げてくださったみなさま、本当に申し訳ありません…。
今後の対応などは、ホロライブ公式からの続報をお待ちください。

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 12:46 PM

[warped sand]

or rather, postponed

[tiny pumice]

4.5k people watching, and only 348 are actually interacting

[versed brook]

you just give them more workload to their server

[sly scarab]

it'll definitely affect the tickets sales at least

[radiant cypress]

a Solo Live on Zan I can see working fine, but a whole Hololive concert ... yeah it doesn't looks bright

[tulip bay]

people get tired when they record shit too

[dusky compass]

waiting for soup or waiting for concert

[tacit depot]

Right, just a heads up in advance since we didn't get to remind people off about it earlier; please avoid dropping the speculation about SPWN being bought by a company as there are no official confirmations to that information.

[queen pewter]

Bae's priority is on the soup

[next galleon]

how long is she reheating the soup

[wispy mason]

My food just arrive cause I didn’t expect them to reschedule the whole event 🫠

[radiant cypress]

enough to make it a drink I guess?

[fresh badger]

Until live start?

[past sage]

soup might be in the air already

[silk nebula]

Yeah, the SPWN thing was a random ass tweet without any source

[young sedge]

whelp 6am here. time for breakfast?

[spice epoch]

would it make sense to just move both to maybe next sat and sun

[next galleon]

her soup is probably walking by now

[zinc parrot]

I just hope this live is being done on cover's new studio... else zan might be on trouble if cover rented a bigger place and setup rigs

[warped sand]

only 4.5k? thats rather low than my expectation

[void sonnet]

so the thing i didn't know was happening today but everyone knew was happening today is not happening today and i just now happen to know it's not happening today?

heck of a thing to happen today

[sly jacinth]

I know the live isnt happening but im too scared to close the Zan tab in case i cant open it again

[tiny pumice]

Something IS happening to SPWN though. There's a reason Cover isn't using them anymore and there's a reason they have no future events planned after September 2nd. As to what is happening, well, that's anyone's guess at the moment.

[candid elm]

judging by achans twitter post it will take a bit longer to reschedule

[radiant cypress]

ain't no way it isn't on cover new studio

[spice epoch]

isee

[zealous kiln]

Looks like I get to sleep before 1am for once

[next galleon]

dont think they need to rent other place since their new studio is quite big

[tiny pumice]

for the #1 VSpacer doing a VSpace? That's actually fairly good

[copper fog]

https://twitter.com/hakuikoyori/status/1695419098409447545?s=46

博衣こより🧪「少女レイ」「God knows...」歌ってみた公開❣️ (@hakuikoyori)

今日の配信に関しては現在運営さんに確認中です！
お待ちを！

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 12:53 PM

[tiny pumice]

She usually averages around 2.5k I think

[versed brook]

inb4, Splash Party on winter

[tacit depot]

Who knows? If so, then best to just wait for SPWN's official statement about it instead of dropping a tweet from some random Twitter user.

[zinc parrot]

was thinking about this too lol

[gusty copper]

pls continue MGS

[void sonnet]

Finnish edition

[leaden basin]

They should had tested this before trying

[copper fog]

https://twitter.com/hakosbaelz/status/1695419380149191141

Hakos Baelz🎲holoEN || STREAM【Pandæmonium】 (@hakosbaelz)

😭😭😭

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 12:54 PM

[warped sand]

oh--- you mean on space lmao my bad

[past sage]

oh ZAN dead?

[heavy zealot]

no music on zan

[void sonnet]

wait was it the Swedish or Finnish who are known to have people jump into ice cold water in the winter

[tiny pumice]

I can agree with that. We should probably wait for an official notice or something. Random tweets from twitter are about as reliable as my bowel movements

[next galleon]

o7

[golden furnace]

so... zanloss?

[zinc parrot]

people are still on zan lobby after the announcement?

[young sedge]

still waiting for Zan to kick me out

[willow bramble]

Wasnt it already dead 2 hours ago

[fervent bough]

2 hours of peak cinema

[void sonnet]

[fresh badger]

https://twitter.com/takanelui/status/1695419686899634261?t=8rMsx1sUWJTGJYMbzqX-dw&s=19

鷹嶺ルイ🥀寝起きヤシの木投稿したよ (@takanelui)

DAY1が延期になりました😢✨
待っててくれたみんなごめんね！

今から着替えして帰る！
予定通り24時〜配信するね‼️

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 12:55 PM

[tiny pumice]

Bae is dying

[fresh badger]

So Lui was there in the studio? 🤔

[tiny pumice]

her words

not mine

[zinc parrot]

gonna pass time playing holocure while waiting for Towa MC stream

[heavy zealot]

who's gonna tell him ?

[warped sand]

zan staff still removing the bandaids they tried earlier, till then guess

[rancid hollow]

[young sedge]

https://twitter.com/hakuikoyori/status/1695419778524152237?s=20

博衣こより🧪「少女レイ」「God knows...」歌ってみた公開❣️ (@hakuikoyori)

22:00から配信OKになったので配信する！！！
けど、MGS配信に関しては延期のお知らせをしたので、違う配信をします！！！

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 12:55 PM

[warped sand]

*sad duck noises

[spare tree]

Lmao I'm on the same boat.

[void sonnet]

i love that i'm completely oblivious to the chaos but i can recognize that it is chaos

[spare tree]

What a shame tbh.

[tiny pumice]

My music in the splash party has cut out

uh oh

[golden furnace]

Bae: I've been sleeping.. I've been sleeping...

[copper fog]

https://vxtwitter.com/houshoumarine/status/1695419988486783082?s=46

[void sonnet]

i didn't know this whole thing was happening until today lol

[heavy loom]

https://twitter.com/karuto_osikatsu/status/1695415568139272535
omg i feel bad for this dude

かると。一般人🦎ホロリス🌲 (@karuto_osikatsu)

なるほど、、、
みんなで呑んでたら終わったなぁ、

Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 12:39 PM

[golden furnace]

Za-n's very unfortunate (zan-nen) naming tho lol

[gusty copper]

[native aspen]

Hopefully there weren’t any time sensitive announcements tied to these concerts

[tiny pumice]

not like this...

[urban lintel]

honestly going out for pizza and drinks with the homies sounds like a blast
don't feel bad for this guy

i wish i was this guy

[void sonnet]

i hope they still got to enjoy the foodsies together at least

[zinc parrot]

they prep a group watchparty

[next galleon]

opened a pack of chips and soda while watching the intro, truly the peak of my life

[echo lotus]

consume pizza to drown out the zanloss

[golden furnace]

I mean, I'm this guy if they postpone this to next week. Going to invite some friends.

[zealous kiln]

https://vxtwitter.com/SJtre3/status/1695400741983359146

[spare tree]

Oh just noticed Bae's still live on her Space lmao

[void sonnet]

these fauna pinkscreens are already paying off. and they didn't even cost anything!

[heavy loom]

https://twitter.com/karuto_osikatsu/status/1695416168818061698
well at least he decided to watch the vod

かると。一般人🦎ホロリス🌲 (@karuto_osikatsu)

ほなみんなで感謝祭見るかぁ〜！！！

Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 12:41 PM

[next galleon]

poor guy got fucked over

[inner prairie]

You know whats going to be bad for some of the people? They might resched it to Sunday and Monday. And you know Monday is where most people have work and school.

[burnt river]

https://twitter.com/nanashimumei_en/status/1695420761937486254

Nanashi Mumei🪶holoEN (@nanashimumei_en)

So sorry to everyone who stayed / woke up for this! We will have our splash party in the near future! 🦉💦

Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 12:59 PM

[past sage]

otsu i suppose

[void sonnet]

i cheer hard for this dude

[thick plinth]

so did he keep his friend from eating a whole 2h

[leaden basin]

maybe as an apologies they will make the free part longer?

[young sedge]

Finally got kicked

[heavy loom]

naw they wont reschedule it to a jp monday, its just bad marketing

[fresh badger]

Meanwhile another concert which also using Zan

[next galleon]

if they do reschedule to monday, refund it is

[viscid olive]

the reschedule is gonna be like 2+ weeks isn't it?

[scarlet turret]

autumn splash party

[heavy loom]

https://twitter.com/karuto_osikatsu/status/1695393043019649238
well... they prepared alot of food and drinks

かると。一般人🦎ホロリス🌲 (@karuto_osikatsu)

あくあクルー、団員、ミオファ、ルイ友、
かざま隊、ころねすきー、かぷ民、
すこん部、飼育員、
でホロサマみるぞーー！

1時間延長か、、、笑笑
待つぞーーー！！！
#hololiveSPDAY1

Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 11:09 AM

[next galleon]

o7

[spice epoch]

https://twitter.com/Lafies_Scarlet/status/1695411952473055736

WD.毛刈り隊のあると🐏✂《MSG1385匹》 (@Lafies_Scarlet)

俺たちはいくらでも待つぞ！😎
#hololiveSPDAY1

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 12:24 PM

[spare tree]

Oof

[sudden sleet]

https://twitter.com/amanekanatach/status/1695420864072954155

天音かなた💫＠喘息治療でおやすみ中 (@amanekanatach)

本日のライブ、サーバートラブルで延期となりました。
時間作って楽しみにしていてくれたみんな、沢山待たせた結果が延期になってしまって本当にごめんね、🥲

延期でどんな対応になるかなど詳細は公式アカウントからのアナウンスをお待ちください…！

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 1:00 PM

[void sonnet]

so what exactly happened? as an IT dude, sounds like zan really wasn't load-tested well with how many people were going to tune in.

[spare tree]

Could you imagine the amount of PTO people used for this too?

[radiant cypress]

oof, this gonna be yikes, not just 1 but 2 concerts

[next galleon]

F

[spare tree]

Especially in Japan?

[inner prairie]

@next galleon welp Looks like its sunday and monday

[next galleon]

hololive community is built different

[void sonnet]

yep that adds to my thought. well, this will affect all events happening this weekend on zan then lol

[fresh badger]

Server overload is the only best answer for now

[next galleon]

refund it is 💀

[silk nebula]

https://twitter.com/omarupolka/status/1695421330743828766

尾丸ポルカ🎪Omaru polka (@omarupolka)

ホロライブサマーが終わらない！終わらせたくない世界の意志か、、？？お楽しみが延期しちゃったけどしょしょお待ちを✋💦
運営さんががんばっておる、、まっててくれてありがとねみんな！ポルカ元気に帰る！！➰🚀

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 1:01 PM

[radiant cypress]

suffering from success

[half tusk]

not exactly related but it seems the other live is also delayed oof
https://twitter.com/idolland_vlive/status/1695419675801502143?t=MuTrpwhsEpuVNX8itkHmOg&s=19

アイドルランドプリパラ「ゆいのユメユメバーチャルライブ」8月26日開催！ (@idolland_vlive)

お待たせしており誠に申し訳ございません。
本日の再開可否に関わらず、明日8月27日（日）同時刻の19時より、改めて全編配信をさせていただきます。
既にチケットをご購入されている方はそのままご覧いただけます。
本日の再開につきましては、Z-aN側の対応が決定し次第ご報告差し上げます。

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 12:55 PM

[next galleon]

actually if its still 7 pm i might be able to watch

lower than that, im fucked

[viscid olive]

I can't imagine they'd do Sunday/Monday

[cedar raptor]

They weren't, most people used SPWN for the last 2 concerts that were also on Zan

[inner prairie]

Hey at least they get to enjoy a fun social zatsu gathering together

[light pebble]

sounds nice having friends with the same hololive hobby

[plush stirrup]

From my experience following idols, if they have an event planned for weekend, it will be rescheduled to another weekend. Also regardless of whether it being rescheduled from Saturday to Sunday, or to the next Saturday, they most certainly will offer refund since some people that buy the ticket might not be able to watch it on the new date.

[cedar raptor]

iirc it was happening at the same time, they had to cancel it

[tiny pumice]

I'm just gonna go watch Connect the world: Ultimate Final Definitive Edition for the 7th time to drown my sorrows

[young sedge]

got to chill with everyone here so silver lining

[warped perch]

Yea we got Fuwawa absolutely obliterating Mococo's feelings

[void sonnet]

as did I ||since I also knew how to properly archive the vods from there lmao||

[spare tree]

"So now that the concert's cancelled... what are you guys up to?"
That type of awkward convo.

[radiant cypress]

I find it's funny that this is technically Zan's debut to us on a large scale and... it just ded cause too many people

[leaden basin]

Splash Summer in Fall

[void sonnet]

so yeah that's sad

i guess that was a whole lot of splashin for nothin

[fresh badger]

https://twitter.com/ZaN_lives/status/1695420785102615007?t=jveb7UOfU_ABRpTKqVnGiA&s=19

Z-aN 公式 (@ZaN_lives)

【お詫び】
現在Z-aNサイトへアクセスしずらい状況が続いております。対応を急いでおりますが、本日予定しておりました配信につきましては延期とさせていただきます。
延期日程・ご返金対応につきましては、改めてご案内させていただきます。
お客様にはご迷惑をおかけし大変申し訳ございません。

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 12:59 PM

[next galleon]

this is what it means to be in hololive community

[supple cliff]

Thanks Zan... I guess...

[prime tree]

more dance practice
https://twitter.com/suisei_hosimati/status/1695421304894292314

星街すいせい☄️ホロライブ０期生 (@suisei_hosimati)

今日のサマーライブは延期になりました！
楽しみにしてたみんなごめんね🥲

本番までダンス練習する時間が増えたと思って練習しまくる💃

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 1:01 PM

[inner prairie]

Maybe the real Splash Party Day 1 is the Advent Zatsu Collab stream all along

[tiny pumice]

One could say the concert drowned

[void sonnet]

Thank you for watching

[void sonnet]

It got watered down

[golden furnace]

At least this guy is positive about it. He'll be fine.

[proud stag]

yeah.. from Suisei tweet, seems like some of them are in the studio to perform live
I thought everything is pre-recorded but I am wrong

[fresh badger]

I guess all lives are done

[heavy zealot]

This was THE day we could see Suisei dancing in swimsuit

[zinc parrot]

people that are still awake, doesnt have plans to sleep yet.
join and watch #hakui-koyori play armored core vi

[sand elk]

Now I get this

[void sonnet]

lol still load-bombed i suppose

[inner prairie]

Hey, at least I got something from this. Nerissa likes to collect gums and turn it into a ball and she wears one piece black swimsuit.

[fresh badger]

Is Baelz space still going on btw?

[deep perch]

tbh, I think I feel the most of the other live/lives that were happening at the time and experienced difficulties

[void sonnet]

now it's more people angrily hammering F5 out of frustration

[queen pewter]

yeah I think I feel the same.

[golden furnace]

I think the MCs will stand-by in the studio during the concert.. Which means Fubuki is there.

[tiny pumice]

Oh no, not everything. never everything. Even if there are SOME parts that are pre-recorded (and I really think the vocals are since they're too flawless to be anything but), there are still many live elements.

[void sonnet]

if it's crying sounds i'll report

[plush stirrup]

bae is done with her space

[sand elk]

gone and unarchived

[inner prairie]

To be fair, does Zan have this kind of issue often or this is just the first rare time?

[golden furnace]

Fubuki haven't tweeted anything so that's super worrying for me.

[void sonnet]

it ded

also she did tweet a bunch of crying emojis so yea

[tiny pumice]

Time to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tvbQHUDuwA

I'm out everyone

[queen pewter]

Sewer Rat discord has an archive of the space

[tiny pumice]

see you all when it happens

[sonic narwhal]

very hard to simulate the effect of 50K people with stable connections asking for 1080p data while another 50K hammer it with 200K requests trying to get in

[spare tree]

Time for Cover to expedite that plan of having their own streaming website.

[cedar raptor]

Alright yall, I think we can start moving to #holo-chat

🧹

[heavy zealot]

does this mean that tomorrow also gonna be postponed ?

[candid wave]

lmao they archived it. i thought they gonna private it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlLjm_hgTyY

[zinc parrot]

see you on the new live dates

[plush stirrup]

honestly, this just prove that creating a streaming site that can handle large traffic is hard and/or expensive.

[queen pewter]

I honestly think that's something they shouldn't do on their own. it's just that complicated. but holoearth concerts will be nice

[golden furnace]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m2nKFtgrTc

[zealous kiln]

probably later

[silk nebula]

We don't know but you should expect it to be postponed

[golden furnace]

standing by for this one

[limber oyster]

would make a good bgm

[warped perch]

ZAN is actually bigger in Japan than SPWN, so them fucking it up looks much worse now

[heavy loom]

also for the refund, must i initiate the email for it or will they email me?

[limber oyster]

but yeah i highly doubt they'd keep it public

[candid wave]

anyone wanna do watchalong ?

[young sedge]

Give them time to figure things out

[fresh badger]

Oh what? Another concert is resuming soon

[sharp geode]

holoearth server can't even handle 1 unit mini-concert

[copper fog]

https://x.com/zan_lives/status/1695422861308260715?s=46

Z-aN 公式 (@ZaN_lives)

【お詫び】
Z-aNサイトへアクセスしずらい状況が続いております。対応を急いでおりますが、ホロライブ・サマー2023 3DLIVE Splash Party!につきましては延期とさせていただきます。
延期日程・ご返金対応につきましては、改めてご案内させていただきます。
ご迷惑をおかけし大変申し訳ございません。

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 1:08 PM

[inner prairie]

Oh so ZAN is actually big in JP? Do they have previous track records like this or this is the first time?

[heavy zealot]

Holo was the problem

[inner prairie]

The fact SPWN functioned way better is interesting

[keen elbow]

Nice! Seriously, good for them! It'd have sucked if two concerts had to be cancelled at the same time

[fresh badger]

this post is deleted btw

[warped perch]

First time I think but they had multiple concerts already

[gusty copper]

https://twitter.com/Lafies_Scarlet/status/1695422121076564449 they're watching link your wish instead

WD.毛刈り隊のあると🐏✂《MSG1385匹》 (@Lafies_Scarlet)

俺達の夏はまだ終わっていない！！！

Link Your Wish DAY1同時視聴だぜ！

#hololiveSPDAY1

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 1:05 PM

[west plover]

so basically there was no way they could've stress tested this before?

[next galleon]

simulation and live is very different

[queen panther]

They absolutely could've, but also, given just how many people also were buying tickets last second, they may not have had the overprovisioning anywhere near what they needed.

[inner prairie]

Then its just a ZAN server issue huh. I could imagine hundreds of thousands of Holofans are logging in, refreshing and such to the point it fries. Its gonna be bad for them now in the future, reputation-wise, with this kind of issue popped up, especially for an important event like this

[sinful tapir]

corpo and underestimating fans demand is a tale as old as time

[next galleon]

cover be like: suffering from success

[tiny pumice]

There's probably 50-100k people trying to get in, and many of them are probably refreshing multiple tabs. So you probably have upwards of a million pings every second -_-

that's gonna cause problems if you're not prepared for it

[warped perch]

For broke gang

[hybrid palm]

Do the servers in Japan underestimate how much of a global brand hololive is

[plush stirrup]

Zan usually being used by vtuber, but from what I see on their site, probably this splash party is their biggest one.

[zealous kiln]

Sounds like a Zan issue

[umbral delta]

I feel sorry for all the people who went to karaoke shops to watch the live or rented out some other places to watch it

[next galleon]

Zan-nen

[west plover]

idk if cover underestimated how many fans there would be or zan did

[queen panther]

This is all complicated more by how web services are architected. So a lot of the site could've been working fine. But all you need is one small service you didn't anticipate working well, just one part of the site, and suddenly, all hell breaks loose.

[hybrid palm]

Wasn't there a problem with one of the tickets for a concert one time streaming tickets where foreigners got locked out and they have to watch the VOD

[leaden basin]

What was Zan biggest concert before this?

[fresh badger]

Most likely Zan's underestimate since rn another live is completely fine without any problem

[golden furnace]

Personal experience arranging events: about 30-50% will buy tickets in the last 24 hours. This event only lasted 2, 3 hours at most, but it's a massive pain in the ass in events that lasts 7 hours. Food provisioning hell.

[hybrid palm]

They probably underestimated how much global population would be watching this

[warped perch]

Cover handled the holo club thing pretty well, they know how many audience they attract so yeah

[next galleon]

never underestimate hololive community

[deep perch]

it was our fault all along, we're just too powerful 😔

[grizzled steeple]

you underestimate the additional power of "swimsuit"

[orchid gazelle]

other live was paused due since the holo issues affected them

[queen pewter]

ah. thanks for sharing

[young sedge]

we've ddosed sites before and we'll keep doing it

[hybrid palm]

Watch their solution being locking everyone outside of Japan from watching it and they have to catch the VOD

[inner prairie]

Yep, and that is not possible to test it beforehand unless you have like... idk, 100k people to test it for you?

In short, its most likely be an unexpected problem from ZAN to have this kind of sudden surge and at the same time, they kinda should expect it since its hololive. A really big community.

SPWN tho, the server actually managed to carry it without any issues during their Fes at first right?

And fes is like a bigger Holo Event

[golden furnace]

SPWN was extremely unwell at first, but they slowly gets better.

4th fes went without a hitch iirc

[plush stirrup]

maybe something like zaiko could handle it better.

[cunning lintel]

Source:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Hololive/comments/nayc9y

[grizzled steeple]

i won't say it's going smooth on the 2nd fes, with lot of buffering, but it was way better as of late

[hybrid palm]

Zan are they even used to hosting so many people outside of Japan watching something

[tiny pumice]

SPWN was able to take baby steps with earlier concerts that didn't have as high volumes. So they had time to ramp up. Zan just got hammered from the start with a massive influx with no time to prep

[plush stirrup]

or use multiple services for streaming and not just use one service

[icy onyx]

SPWN, after prev experience: www they didn't know

[real trout]

Maybe the best last ditch solution for Cover is to stream it all on Youtube as soon as possible.
Maybe even both events tomorrow.
Get the compensation for refunds and potential loss of income from Zan.
Otherwise their schedules are too packed for postponements

[hybrid palm]

This postponement fucks up a lot of stuff

[queen pewter]

I fear for the 3d showcase schedule, which I assumed for next weekend

[tiny pumice]

I imagine it has probably upset a number of the EN girls that flew out there specifically for this

[queen pewter]

none of them did though...

[tiny pumice]

Ina did

[zinc parrot]

stream all in YT for paid event with online tickets... YT doesnt have that system

[golden furnace]

Well, the staff will be under heavy stress, let's wish them well.

[sonic narwhal]

it seemed like the one part was the linkage to serving the stream video, since I think for a lot of people, once they were able to connect they were able to maintain their connection for an extended period

[queen pewter]

oh right, she mentioned a japan trip. sorry

[tiny pumice]

Ina said on stream she was flying out for a single day for the concert and then was flying back and that she'd be back Tuesday

[inner prairie]

Welp, looks like the ZAN employees would not have a wink of sleep starting tomorrow

And because of this issue, cover might not consider ZAN next time, which is bad. Because postponement is really a negative effect to make some people refund because they already made the schedule

[hybrid palm]

Cover should go with a host that's used to holding a high volume of people from around the world for now on

[orchid gazelle]

the thing is tho there isnt much to choose from

[fresh badger]

Then what will they use 🤔

[west plover]

wdym by holoclub

[proud stag]

youtube or twitch then
there are not too many options out there

[queen panther]

Yeah, I had no issues once I got logged in. I think a lot of parts clearly failed, though. My guess is the login system and the ticketing system, given the issues with ticket delays, amongst other things. Chat relay probably failed too. But video CDN I think was likely mostly fine.

[frozen oyster]

time to use

[sonic narwhal]

ZaN has had a lot of experience with events that are around a degree of magnitude smaller (1-10K viewers) so the next degree jump was where their architecture failed

[frozen oyster]

MMD

[west plover]

how's stage crowd?

[proud stag]

Miko Miko Douga?

[inner prairie]

I don't know, SPWN has been getting better they said and they have the most experience when it comes to Hololive stuff rn.

[real trout]

what i meant was to stream it on YT for free. Paid customers are all refunded
Cover then ask Zan for compensation for refunds to the paying customers + other potential loss of income
Just to get the schedule going. They have so many events scheduled for the coming weekends

[west plover]

or showroom

[hybrid palm]

Get elon to host the concert instead on Twitter give him free tickets as compensation

[tiny pumice]

Kick

[golden furnace]

The video CDN was not performing well, but no glaring problem. It's probably the queue into the service, or the authentication, that's not performing well. Again, it's fun guessing about these problems, but we shouldn't assume things.

[fresh badger]

The only site I can think rn is E-plus

[warped perch]

The fan club thing from the previous summer live

[proud stag]

SPWN already got hammered the exact same way like Z-an tonight. However, back then, the viewers count are probably only half from what Z-an got now

[deep perch]

MMDA, we all take one and just imagine the Splash Party

[west plover]

how much of an increase viewerwise would this have been

[inner prairie]

Youtube doesnt have that "pay a ticket so that you can watch" feature. If it does, then prolly they would do it there.

And no, membership stream does not count if you wanna sell a ticket

[sonic narwhal]

you'd be surprised there's other services that also work

that have experience with events at a similar magnitude to Hololive

K-Pop concerts

[proud stag]

oh true...

[deep perch]

at this point, why not just host it inside Fortnite?

[proud stag]

maybe fortnite server can be used as well

[candid wave]

cover pls buy twitch code from aws, so we can have blue kick

[queen panther]

Yeah. What I wouldn't pay to get my hands on whatever post-analysis someone's going to have to document on this.

[west plover]

what do they use

[tiny pumice]

Well, you see, the 'tickets' from SPWN give you an archive for a month or two afterwards. That's the same as an archived VoD. They could just charge a special Tier 3 at the price of 55,000 yen a ticket and hide the stream behind that membership level.

[orchid gazelle]

logistics for that tho

[rancid hollow]

ah finally my massive collection of dance emotes can be put to good use

[deep perch]

considering that you can rent movies on youtube (you can, right?) then I guess that they have the technology required to implemend something like that in the future. That would probably be the best

[zinc parrot]

weverse is one of those.
other companies got their own platforms

[proud stag]

btw someone on Twitter mentioned that if they hold concert on youtube, the ticket price will be astromically high because YT took revenue from it

like 30% or something

[tiny pumice]

You say that like SPWN or ZAN aren't taking a cut themselves

[sly scarab]

how can they hold multi day concert on youtube

[golden furnace]

Yeah, like 50% higher probs

[inner prairie]

also cover pls make holotwitter to overcome twitte- i mean X, (why the hell do they name it X? Even my mom thinks i have a porn app in my phone )

[deep perch]

HoloTwitter? you mean HoloX?

[orchid gazelle]

cut is probably less than what yt takes

[proud stag]

if Zan have to compensate Cover, they might go under

[cunning lintel]

Only problem fornthis one is that COVER is stepping into the KR market very recently so they might not have that much leeway for their providers yet.

[tiny pumice]

We can only speculate

[sonic narwhal]

Well, I can't speak about the queue from purchase to initial access since I bought my tickets day 1 and pre-loaded the event page six hours beforehand; but there probably was enough degradation of experience across all steps of the process; contrast w/ SPWN where their chokepoint in their last event was in payment processing, once you got past that it was a lot easier

[golden furnace]

My other account is full of "something else" wdym twitter isn't a porn app

[sly scarab]

i mean, there's probably a clause for failure to deliver

[copper fog]

doesn’t holoplus exist

[cunning lintel]

Still in development.

[orchid gazelle]

yeah tho considering there was also a platform fee attached to the ticket, probably not as bad

[frozen oyster]

I dont think they are actually stepping into the KR market unless I missed something

it should be an overall oversea expansion

[spiral salmon]

yagoo's in korea rn i think thats it tho

[cunning lintel]

Well..... I mean the cafe collabs or something should count...?

[sly scarab]

they are doing more collabs with korea, but you can also say the same for taiwan

[frozen oyster]

I mean, yagoo can just be running around travelling to other places

[thick plinth]

he just there to drink cafe

[inner prairie]

Still tho, I guess they should still prepare even if its something they didnt expect. Now some fans are quite disatissfied, and have to deal with the resched. They could possible stream Day 2 on monday which is you know...

[frozen oyster]

I mean holoMaldives would still not be real if yagoo is travelling to the maldives for a vacation

[hybrid palm]

That's the general thing in general stop underestimating how much numbers these people bring in

[zinc parrot]

those are just cafes for fans. go ask aniplus why they do it on KR. that's not a sign of holo KR expansion.

[hybrid palm]

Might be the case where they have to free up more of the servers in order to get this concert going

[cunning lintel]

Ah... Ok, roger.

[sonic narwhal]

YT is actually already rolling out a PPV event service, currently US only and in testing phase

[candid wave]

what about possibility both concert stream tmrw ?

[orchid gazelle]

low probably

[golden furnace]

not too high, i'd wager

[hybrid palm]

Well if I have to end it with one thing zan blew their chance

[old root]

so got cancelled?

[orchid gazelle]

postponed

[old root]

until when?

[orchid gazelle]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

they be figuring out logistics rn

[golden furnace]

You have to call the MCs to studio and if they have dance lessons, singing lessons, collab, promises with friends / holomembers, stream planning, other administrative tasks, house cleaning, etc... Delay is hell.

[old root]

bruh, embarrasing tech company

[inner prairie]

You also have to consider that they need to fix the server right now till tomorrow.

[zinc parrot]

I think its might be better to have it both days postponed.

I think its weird that day1 postponed and day2 happened, just my take.

well all we can do is wait for further details.

[golden furnace]

ngl it's embarrasing, but let's not roast them for their first holorekt experience.

[sonic narwhal]

just because they're KR based doesn't mean they can't work on a global basis

[old root]

people seems try to refund but cant

https://twitter.com/mai2chi5959/status/1695414379825762788

MT (@mai2chi5959)

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 12:34 PM

3 times buy ticket, insane

[sonic narwhal]

would be very weird, especially if they have announcements planned for end-of-event

[inner prairie]

Obviously, they would do Day 1 first. Its just that there are three choices right now depending on the circumstances:

1. Stream tomorrow both Day 1 in the morning or afternoon (jst) and Day 2 in the evening

2. Stream Day 1 tomorrow and Day 2 on Monday

3. Stream Day 1 and Day 2 next weekend.

And all of them have their own flaws, but thats all they can do logically after this happened

[old root]

they can record today and stream the whole thing tomorrow

[west plover]

there was another vtuber concert going on at the same time right

ig z-aN thought they could handle both

[hybrid palm]

Imagine staying up early in the morning to watch this

[inner prairie]

That technically is the same as option 2 then

If you look at it

Its the live experience most are hoping

[plush stirrup]

if the order is not important and they don't mind doing it on monday, then day1 will be on monday., otherwise they will need to refund the day2 only tix.

[digital bridge]

there is still no info about tomorrow ya ? from z-an twitter it seems like both concerts are postponed

[mortal heath]

Highly doubt it will be this weekend. You think they'll solve the server issues overnight?

[digital bridge]

too bad they are using alibaba cloud intead of aws like spwn

with aws it shouldnt be a big problem to scale it up pretty quickly, not sure how alibaba cloud works in terms of quick scaling

[plush stirrup]

Zaiko also use AWS

[keen quest]

guys can someone update me on whats going on with the concert?

just got off work

[daring cipher]

delay

server got blow up

[keen quest]

to when?

[daring cipher]

until further notice

[keen quest]

ohnyo

thanks man

i mean it is pretty sus that they used a new streaming platform and not the usual spwn

esp for an online only concert

[plush stirrup]

They use zan for 4th gen concert

[fossil harbor]

Hey guys what's happen-

Wtf the concert got delayed

[plush stirrup]

Eh..5th gen

[golden furnace]

Fubuki was at the studio.
She doesn't know what will happen to tomorrow's concert.
She's going to get back home and sleep.
https://twitter.com/shirakamifubuki/status/1695428120344719572

白上フブキ🌽Hololive1期生＆ゲーマーズ🦊 (@shirakamifubuki)

エンドレスホロサマー🌞🌴🌺✨
明日のライブはまだ分かりませんが
帰宅したらすぐ寝ます( ˘ω˘ ) ｽﾔｧ
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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 1:28 PM

[keen quest]

yeah but this is a different ball game altogether man

[golden furnace]

Also please, no endless summer. Please, no more endless 8

[digital bridge]

twinkle4you wasnt that big for sure, i guess ~10k online tickets (since it was also live at tokyo dome) and splash is online only so i guess 50-100k

[plush stirrup]

But 5th gen was on zan and spwn.

[fresh badger]

Plus it's only 5th gen, not the whole

[keen quest]

idk whether they will end up with both concerts tmr

also i dont hv confidence in zan getting their shit tgt overnight

[digital bridge]

well it all depends how easy is to scale up capacity on alibaba cloud since they are using it, i guess its possible to do it overnight

[digital bridge]

i doubt they will do both concerts in 1 day, it may be too much to expect from people to save ~5h of free time in 1 day

[keen quest]

but again its a sunday

or maybe they will postpone to next weekend

[digital bridge]

my guess is that they will do it next weekend

or 1 conecrt tomorrow and one next saturday if they fix problems overnight

[digital bridge]

it is sunday but since starting time in JP is 9pm, both concerts would be 5-6h and that would be too much for them i guess

[golden furnace]

Probably too much for the MCs too

[orchid gazelle]

also they are restreaming the live another company had today

[keen quest]

fair

[digital bridge]

ya, pripara concert was interrupted in the middle because of hololive (well not because of hololive directly but still)

[real trout]

gotta wonder if next few weekends was supposed to be booked for council 3D showcases too.

[abstract lion]

they're on different situation here, pripara was in the middle of performance while Holo didn't even got to started

[orchid gazelle]

yeah but I thought I saw they announced a restream tomorrow in addition to continuing today

[digital bridge]

ya, they resumed today's concert 1h ago from the middle and restream of full concert tomorrow

[plush stirrup]

Also since Hololive own their own studio, they can be more flexible than some other that need to rent, assuming there is a live element in the stream.

[keen quest]

wait what

[orchid gazelle]

new studio coming in clutch

[tepid marten]

wait i thought i overslept and missed the concert entirely, what happened

[digital bridge]

i hope few more months or maybe 1 year and concerts can be fully done in holoearth, no fee for 3rd party and fully controlled by cover

[orchid gazelle]

zan server issues because holoraid

[keen quest]

zan server got blown up, concert delayed until further notice

[fossil harbor]

It's Bijouver
It got postponed

[tepid marten]

that is a fucking bruh moment from me

[next galleon]

HoloInvasion

[west plover]

the good ol hololive hug of death

[digital bridge]

well better waking up to postponed concert than buying 4 tickets to same concert because of faulty site like one JP bro

[next galleon]

4 tickets ? 💀

[thick plinth]

He really want to see bikini

[digital bridge]

he bought one, site had problems already and couldnt recognize that he bought already, bought another one, same thing ...

[next galleon]

the commitment

[tepid marten]

im not gonna lie im glad the time was postponsed because i completely overslept for this lol

[orchid gazelle]

lmao

[next galleon]

couldnt sleep because of the excitement, just to get the middle finger from Zan

[digital bridge]

no official info from hololive account yet but i guess tomorrow is also postponed

[fresh badger]

Looking at the main page, there's 2 concerts also scheduled along with Hololive

[abstract lion]

MTL slightly incorrect
"About the postponement of today's live** and about **tomorrow's live, please wait for the announcement from the official account"

[heavy zealot]

Zan website is in maintenance now

[west plover]

what does that mean

[abstract lion]

maybe they're scaling up their cloud server

[bleak basin]

I forgot to buy my ticket

[next galleon]

no need to rush, its postponed

[hybrid palm]

Apparently issues were happening with another show they were hosting to

[next galleon]

zan skill issue

[versed brook]

well ofc, its from same server

[fresh badger]

And tomorrow there're 2 more shows along with Hololive

[next galleon]

theres a possibility tmrow live is also postponed

[rancid current]

Yeah, I felt very bad for them
But they decided to continue later and will rebroadcast it in one shot tomorrow

[fresh badger]

Wonder if that wasn't live but recorded

[hybrid palm]

Man if they want to host this with the way their servers are right now or probably have to get rid of all the other shows that's happening at the same time as it put the full power at this

Cuz currently it feels like the servers are on stilts

[versed brook]

well, their server is in the cloud, they can just upscale the server when this happens and put it back again later

[lime snow]

they should have done it prior the opening time, IF they knew beforehand how large the holopro fanbase is

[fresh badger]

Either that or the amount of users are beyone their cloud limit

[versed brook]

well, they can calculate that from how many ticket being sold tho
(idk if you can watch the free portion on Zan)

[lime snow]

nah, cloud is usually pay what you use

[hybrid palm]

They probably underestimate at home many overseas people were going to access the Cloud server that's the only thing that makes sense

[lime snow]

hell, you can buy a more powerful EC2 equivalent OR provision more of the same VMs (+ load balancers) for a short time and only get charged on how long you've used it

in theory, one can scale your own cloud infra to anticipate the influx of users

[stone sandal]

Still weird though, they know exactly how many tickets they've sold so they know the max number of people that are gonna watch. Not all of those are gonna watch live of course but they should still be able to guestimate pretty well... or so you'd think...

Maybe it's a classic case of one department not talking with the other department. Wouldn't be the first time some project or other falls through because of crappy internal communications 😄

[hybrid palm]

Could be any number of things it could be that they overestimated the capacity of their server

[orchid gazelle]

well a good number of people dont buy streaming tickets until day of so theres that to consider

[tepid marten]

me included (i was broke)

[clever spear]

in practice it's hard to be truly prepared for sudden massive server traffic though
like how mmos are still basically guaranteed to be absolute trainwrecks on their first day

[noble abyss]

Still no news, huh

[digital bridge]

last news that can be relevant is directly from z-an about completing server maintenance

it seems that it may be possible that we get concert tomorrow but no official info from cover if they want to try after that server fix or no

https://twitter.com/ZaN_lives/status/1695515754014388537

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 7:17 PM

[noble abyss]

That's some good news at least

[digital bridge]

i guess we will find out in few hours since its still 5am in japan

[noble abyss]

I guess Cover staff might have gone to sleep while they performed maintenance, with luck we'll get something when they wake up

Yeah

[digital bridge]

still would prefer confirmation earlier since i have to prepare time for concert tomorrow (im from eu and its 10:30pm now so announcement will probably be in the middle of the night)

[noble abyss]

Same, I was going to be going to bed if there's no news soon

I'd need to get up early in case they reschedule it for tomorrow earlier

[digital bridge]

most of official tweets from cover are usualy at 4-5am CEST (in 5-6h) so i guess i can wake up for few mins just to check

[warped kayak]

I guess i made the right call to turn in last night. But im still bummed the whole thing never aired. 😞

[frigid reef]

If they don't say anything assume it's still happening since all the announcements from cover has been day 1 specific

[tribal parrot]

There are a bunch of streams scheduled for after the live with otsukare in their title so I think they're planning for day 2 to go ahead still

Although its still pretty early there, they're probably still rushing to put everything back together.

[lean rivet]

So will today be what should have been yesterdays stream

Or night comes before sunshine

[leaden rain]

Saw koyo has her after concert stream up, I guess day 2 will happen then?

[sterile summit]

https://twitter.com/hololive_En/status/1695586311879659684?s=20

hololive production (English) (@hololive_En)

[hololiveSPDAY1 viewers]

We are deeply sorry for all those who have been looking forward to hololive summer 2023 3DLIVE Splash Party! Sunshine" live stream on Saturday, August 26th, 2023 (JST).

Fans who have purchased tickets will receive refund depending on the type of ticket…

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 11:57 PM

[copper fog]

https://twitter.com/hololivetv/status/1695586903138152518?s=46

ホロライブプロダクション【公式】 (@hololivetv)

【『hololive Summer 2023 3D LIVE Splash Party!』 につきまして】
#hololiveSPDAY1 公演を楽しみにしてくださった皆様には、ご迷惑をおかけし大変申し訳ございませんでした。…

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Twitter · Aug 26, 2023, 11:59 PM

[sterile summit]

oh damn

We getting refund for day 1 and its playing free on YT

[cedar raptor]

Oh wow

[unborn sapphire]

Damn I feel bad for them

[prime tree]

tfw free can see

[short flint]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBxt2fq_Zek

[void cape]

FREE CAN SEE

[sterile summit]

i hope everyone sees it on such short notice

only 4 hours away

[void cape]

But also oof for the profits

[cedar raptor]

in 3 hours

[void cape]

They gonna lose a lot from this

[hybrid palm]

Broke Bros let's do this

[sterile summit]

bruh i havent slept since it was suppose to start yesterday

[hybrid palm]

Zan will be probably footing the lost revenue

[cold loom]

at least you can watch this any time

[sterile summit]

tru

[cold loom]

I'm surprised they released the whole thing for free dayum

[fervent bough]

I didn't expect this to be free

Wow

Super ultra rare livestream

[urban quail]

Free can see

[tribal parrot]

Well, time to buy merch with my refunded day 1 money!

[dusk kraken]

I haven't slept since yesterday and they gonna do the live at 12?

I'm deadge

[visual pine]

I wonder if advent will do another watch along lol

[shadow beacon]

So day 1 is now free?

[buoyant frigate]

buy full advent merch

[visual pine]

but this is a good move by Cover

the talents efforts won't go to waste, fans are happy

[fallen elbow]

dang, mad respect. so is the refund going to be automatic?

[dusk kraken]

There's an link to it

[fervent bough]

Buy Hololive summer merch

[tribal parrot]

Gonna be like 6-8 hrs of concert to watch today

[tribal parrot]

Thinking about it!

[fervent wolf]

gonna be stuck on the chair the whole day?

[hybrid palm]

Companies in Japan do take reputational damage seriously so I can get why they're doing this

[visual pine]

yeah, but I think most reasonable people wouldn't blame cover for this one

[heavy loom]

True, they gave zan the money and trust on their site but zan failed to deliver

[fervent bough]

I wish that cover staff are all okay from this damage

[urban quail]

Well this is a big compensation

[hybrid palm]

Zan will probably be paying for this

I mean compensation to cover

[thorny sandal]

Either they lose some dough or zan will somehow compensate cover

[urban quail]

Also will the vod be on yt for as long as the ticket vods or will it be pulled like an unarchived karaoke

[tribal parrot]

I'm sure they probably had some kind of insurance policy or agreement.

[hybrid palm]

If they want to save face as a company they should

[knotty wadi]

I hope Zan does compensate, it was an oversight on their end

[urban quail]

Yeah

[visual pine]

makes me wonder about 5th fes if spwn isn't an option anymore

[urban quail]

At least they can learn so the towa sololive can run smooth

[heavy loom]

What happened to spwn?

[cold loom]

btw the vod will stay up until a month from now

[knotty wadi]

Speaking of refunds, I've read that the 2-day ticket will be refunded, does that mean that I have to buy a Day 2 ticket to be able to watch later?

[heavy loom]

Refund half of that package price

[knotty wadi]

Oh so no need to buy tickets anymore if you got the 2-day ticket right?

[leaden rain]

Ya

[heavy loom]

Yr

[short flint]

yes

[leaden rain]

Tho how do I ask for refund lol?

[knotty wadi]

Alright, thanks

[stiff shell]

rumor about going under or something because SPWN have no other events scheduled after 9/2023

[tribal parrot]

Gonna be automatic I believe

[short flint]

I think the refund is automatic

[leaden rain]

OK 👍

[heavy loom]

O yikkesss

[sly jacinth]

So the concert is still happening now?

[leaden rain]

I can use that for merch or SC then ~

[glass tree]

BROKE GANGS MAKE SOME NOISE

[leaden rain]

Main channel SC back the refund lmao

[jolly jewel]

part 1 is now free can see

[visual pine]

Day 2 is scheduled to happen

[karmic forum]

damn mad respect to Cover for doing this

[jolly jewel]

day 1 will be shown later at 1300 JST in their YT channel FOR FREE
day 2 will proceed as planned and will still be behind paywall

[keen bay]

in a way this is big brain because now people can throw all kinds of superchats the whole time to make up for it

[ancient shell]

holy mad respect from cover

[drowsy moth]

we're so back

[past sage]

thank you my horrible sleep schedule, without you I wouldn't know that the concert is happening at 5:30am

[hybrid palm]

So how much was the day one ticket

[rapid crater]

5500 yen

same as day 2

[strange cargo]

I hope I can make it back before 1 o'clock

I have to drive back home some 120 miles away

[hybrid palm]

50 bucks saved ezclap

[leaden rain]

I'm assuming it will be 3 hours long? Well, damn rip sleep hours for Day 2

[sly jacinth]

So does that mean i refund for both tickets then rebuy just day 2?

[leaden rain]

No@sly jacinth

If you buy 2 days, they refund half of it

[hybrid palm]

Refunds will suck though it will take a while to get back through your bank

[sly jacinth]

Cool thanks for that

[candid wave]

~~u still have to pay ~~

[pulsar lily]

Free can see

[visual pine]

I'm happy for broke gang, holo concerts are pretty hype

[candid wave]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1030986864024367124.gif?size=48&name=FaunaNod&quality=lossless

[cedar raptor]

Big brain move, maybe this will encourage people who have never seen them to buy tickets next time

[fervent bough]

[limber oyster]

lol lmao

[silent seal]

Hopefully Cover isn't paying the refund out of their pocket. It is not their fault

[sly jacinth]

I hope advent still does the Watch along

[teal edge]

Does anyone have a link to the list of performers for both days?

[leaden rain]

Look at those "Refunds"

[agile iron]

Wow, mad respect for them doing this

[visual pine]

I'm pretty frugal when it comes to buying merch, but the concerts are some of the best things you can buy from holo

[candid wave]

smh skem

[silent seal]

https://www.zan-live.com/en/live/detail/10292

[fervent bough]

I hope the staff will get something to eat

[leaden rain]

But hey, Sunshine is actually on Morning in Japan instead the OG hours being at night lol

[leaden basin]

How does Refund work on the 11000 yen?

[short flint]

only half will be refunded

[fallen elbow]

the zan staff, yeah. Cuz Cover is definitely getting paid

[leaden rain]

And Night party actually at night

[mortal marlin]

you get back 5.5k

[leaden basin]

automatic?

[mortal marlin]

assuming it'll prolly take like 2-3 business days lol

[visual pine]

From what the Twitter post said yes

[silent seal]

Should depends on your credit card company

[jolly jewel]

refunds like these are "normally" automatic

[leaden basin]

so we don't need to ask for a refund

[jolly jewel]

yes, at least they didn't say otherwise

[urban lintel]

at this point i don't think their system could handle everyone asking for a refund

[leaden basin]

ok ic

[jolly jewel]

only the ones who paid via convenience store have a different method of refund

[keen bay]

if the refund request crashes you know the shitstorm will be even bigger on z-an's part

[rapid crater]

watch them earn more than the tickets

[keen bay]

concert host overpromises their capacity
one of the biggest events of the year goes offline
potential loss of thousands of dollars and damaged reputation
comes in clutch by refunding all tickets and making it free for everyone
still probably makes the money back in superchats anyway

[shadow mist]

I kneel

[leaden basin]

sucks that they loss potential money

[silent seal]

Probably also got paid by Zan if their contract have clauses that has compansation if Zan can't provide their services

[bleak basin]

What have i missed

?

[silent seal]

Free can see

[keen bay]

day one is free on youtube

[bleak basin]

[wind rock]

Day 1 free in 3.5 hours

[quartz fable]

you literally missed nothing

[wind rock]

Day 2 going forward as scheduled

[keen bay]

check #holo-news for details

[bleak basin]

I can save money and only buy day two this time

[silent seal]

If you didn't have a ticket you missed a negative amount of stuff

[quartz fable]

yeah not for day 1

[bleak basin]

The whole thing?

[silent seal]

Day 1 only

[short flint]

now the real test will be day 2 for z-an

[bleak basin]

I see

[silent seal]

Imagine Z-an crashes again and I can only imagine how much compensation they are going to pay to Cover

[bleak basin]

I should of bought tickets yesterday so i could get a refund today then use that money to buy day 2

[sly jacinth]

No advent watchalong for day 1 confirmed by biboo

[keen bay]

okay but why not just buy day 2 to begin with

[sly scarab]

Just buy day 2 now if you want lol

[silent seal]

Day 2 watchalong will still be there

[drowsy moth]

one arm and leg for Day 1, the other arm and leg for Day 2

[fallen elbow]

I wonder if there is going to be even higher load for day 2:

people who already bought day 2 + those who get hyped after watching day 1 for free + those who use the refund money for day 2