Honkai: Star Rail (Old)

[tame flint]

[naive atlas]

[tame flint]

Am only 11 stars

I run seele and blade on my other team

[astral raptor]

this my teams for the final stage LOL

himeko lc is build for this pure fiction LOL

[thick ore]

ye, tried solo seele.... dont do it unless you have another dps

[naive atlas]

哇大家好pro喎

[astral raptor]

tbh stage 1 and 2 shld not be a problem for the vets

or 1 to 3 to be exact

[thick ore]

stage 4 is the true challenge

[astral raptor]

yeap

[quasi chasm]

i want to try the new game mode but weekly reset stopping me

[tame flint]

[thorn wadi]

[quasi chasm]

how you lose

[thorn wadi]

I got the gossip curio really late

[tame flint]

Now, reroll 30 times again

[quasi chasm]

what conun lvl is that?

[thorn wadi]

6

[quasi chasm]

what i do is focus on herta and geting the curio's first

if i see lotto i insta buy it

and dont buy the 300 stuff

[naive atlas]

Please help my Jingliu

[tame flint]

Lc doko

[naive atlas]

oh it's the Herta one

[orchid hull]

Sig LC doko

[thorn wadi]

aight

[gilded pine]

hop off atk boots

[naive atlas]

money doko

[tame flint]

Selector when

I want my free jl

[astral raptor]

get more speed

ur speed is horrible

get to 134 speed at least

[worn sable]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/comments/19129cc/3_codes_100_stellar_jade_40k_credits_4_travelers/

[tame flint]

Isnt that for when you only use her without bronya

[astral raptor]

yea but still i would still recommend 134 speed at least

[silent owl]

[tame flint]

Welcome to 11 stars club

[astral raptor]

whats ur teams?

[naive atlas]

I don't have any speed boots yet

[tame flint]

Isnt that like 2 mobs away from 60k

[naive atlas]

My condolences

[tame flint]

Already used all of these

[naive atlas]

[quasi chasm]

ig except if its this

[tame flint]

Spend more

[thorn wadi]

that's good

[tame flint]

Spend more jades for stam

[naive atlas]

Also does Jingliu use full ice or 2 ice 2 speed

[tame flint]

2 ice 2 speed huh

I guess that can work

I also have some insane spd pieces with really good subs

[quasi chasm]

if you really need the speed ye

[astral raptor]

yea not bad

[orchid hull]

Usually full Ice but 2Speed is fine

[astral raptor]

yea both are fine imo, just that better stats first then set bonuses

like having roughly
2.4k++ atk
35 to 50% cr
200%++ cd
with 134 speed min
those stats will help u more

[naive atlas]

[tame flint]

I saw a video about ratio and his kits

||he can keep the bonus crate and cdmg that he gets from his traces even after the target dies?||

[naive atlas]

I forgot to check but can you inspect Ratio's stats during his quest?

[tame flint]

His skills and all that, yeah

[naive atlas]

His tree too?

[carmine burrow]

[tame flint]

That i dunno

[vagrant fog]

not even 80k

[tame flint]

What are you curious about

[carmine burrow]

Clara can't do shit in phase 1 lmao

I was just banking on phase 2 to carry

back to slacc

[fresh juniper]

i did check it. it's interesting.

[tame flint]

Free ratio next week

https://tenor.com/view/star-rail-dr-ratio-dr-ratio-star-rail-ratio-gif-13563367130056312002

[carmine burrow]

gonna wait for F2P pure fiction clears and see how they solve stage 4 lol

[silent owl]

K we good

[astral raptor]

pro

[sharp kestrel]

wait you can ban paths on normal SU as well

[astral raptor]

yeap

[vagrant fog]

[carmine burrow]

look at this argenti haver

[thick ore]

ngl, this mode basically dont care if you're alive or not

as long as you kill them all

[silent owl]

Without eru or followup charas you gotta hold ults so you dont overstack shatter on dying waves and save them for next wave
Probably good to avoid breaking with imaginary or quantum so enemies dont get pushed back, you want them to take their turn and explode

[carmine burrow]

yeah, I learned that the hard way

[quasi chasm]

pro

[carmine burrow]

those two breaks suck ass

[sharp kestrel]

yea

[pearl locust]

plenty of time to raise herta

[sharp kestrel]

funny enough my himeko herta be carrying the other stages

struggled on 1st phase on stage 5

[silent owl]

Oh i just peeked into another server and someone mentioned march
Aoe ult, freezes enemies which makes them take turns sooner

[sharp kestrel]

else I think probably could've 3*

[tame flint]

Stage 5??

[naive atlas]

ADVANCED calyx farming fr

[carmine burrow]

wtf stage 5

[quasi chasm]

stage 5?

[sharp kestrel]

the highst stage

[carmine burrow]

spare me

[sharp kestrel]

or whatever it was

[quasi chasm]

im playing normal SU and im now holding back on rerolling blessing
how am i got used to doing that already

[ornate bronze]

Wait

Is pure Fiction like a weekly event

[quasi chasm]

no iirc its 40 days too

[ornate bronze]

But u can get jade's from it after 40 days?

Basically Like MoC but longer?

[tame flint]

They both have the same rotation time

[thick ore]

quick reminder

double planar is this week

[ornate bronze]

LETS GOO

[carmine burrow]

ok, I will go stupid and go hypercarry Clara in node 1

[ornate bronze]

DOUBLE THE TRASH

[thick ore]

used hypercarry kafka for me

[silent owl]

Guys, check out the bird's "less intensive" stories, so far i saw 3

[carmine burrow]

Clara didn't work LOL

[worn sable]

lack of aoe in 1 team

[carmine burrow]

hypercarry serval didn't work lmao

[worn sable]

herta and himeko work very well

[silent owl]

What if passkey serval

[thick ore]

they basically removed the hp rule for pf

[silent owl]

Thinking about it, you probably also want to reverse character positions here too to maximize getting hit and getting energy back, instead of minimizing it

[worn sable]

boom, easy

[fresh juniper]

how good is lynx, guys?

[worn sable]

you need both her and natasha anyway

[orchid hull]

Better than Natasha

But if you dont have 5* supps you need both anyway

[orchid hull]

Dual DPS is gonna be good here

Me using a Kafka/Serval team for the first time in a while

[quasi chasm]

i see now why herta and himeko is good on PF

[orchid hull]

Himeko literally became a star overnight

[worn sable]

yea you need 2 or 3 dps for ult spam

[orchid hull]

Now she is a legit unit to pick in the selector

[worn sable]

i only has her at E1 with this

sad

[winged mulch]

I need to level up Herta, Himeko and Clara

Failing 3-4 stages

[quasi chasm]

full auto

[vagrant fog]

why Coffee is so pro

[quasi chasm]

ngl if my himeko is built i might 80k it

[sharp kestrel]

pro

[pearl locust]

this event forcing me to build kurukuru

[carmine burrow]

coffee truly pro

[sharp kestrel]

yea I can't get above 1* for stage 4

not enough ice for first phase

[carmine burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/kururin-kuru-kuru-herta-herta-sippining-honkai-star-rail-gif-6255874111095877274

[sweet meteor]

I just realized

How am i going to clear pure fiction

I only have one healer

[vagrant fog]

thats why they give you Lynx

[silent owl]

Pure fiction doesnt hit that hard, you could potentially get by with march or fmc

[carmine burrow]

I tried with an ass march and it's fine

[vagrant fog]

March's ass ?

[carmine burrow]

yeah

it's fine

[safe oriole]

No built erudition hurts man

[sharp kestrel]

he says as he clears it with 3 stars

[safe oriole]

With the power of ult detonation timing

Also this gamemode makes himeko lc actually ok

[carmine burrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL-MWO1CjTI

what's sustain if they are dead

[heavy bobcat]

dang i hate this pure fiction already

[carmine burrow]

pretty nice strat tho

Dreamy focused on the base ult so it can be spammed

wait wtf 2nd node is hypercarry himeko wtf

[naive atlas]

Nightglow

[sharp kestrel]

damn bronya diff

never managed to sacc a bronya

[naive atlas]

also Moon Halo cover

[tough condor]

Why yukonh

[carmine burrow]

buffs

[quasi chasm]

[sharp kestrel]

same feels no argenti

[heavy bobcat]

no ice dps either

[sharp kestrel]

true I only have herta

stage 4 phase 1 slow as hell

can't get points on phase 1

[heavy bobcat]

i can't even 3 star stage 3

[quasi chasm]

you have 41 days to build a character and beat PF

[heavy bobcat]

building a character

[sharp kestrel]

yea no can't 2* stage 4

alwasy around 45k

[quasi chasm]

[spiral tendon]

So real

[quasi chasm]

i shouldve maxed mei first before himeko

[tough condor]

rate me am I doing shit right ?

[quasi chasm]

its first stage you should be fine

[tough condor]

so many trash mobs I really should raise herta

[sharp kestrel]

suddenly erudition units became a whole tier of its own

[vagrant fog]

real challengen on stage 4

[sharp kestrel]

You know it's funny

how I scored better not breaking them on stage 4 phase 1

still wasn't able to 2* but it scored better

[tough condor]

luckily I stashed some stamina pot from previous pass

I planning to use these to farm dr ratio mats but fuck it

[quasi chasm]

i mean you still have 40 days

plenty time to farm

[tough condor]

my patience for the fact there's unclaimed rewards can't even lasted 40 seconds

beside herta who else great at cleaning those mobs ?

[rigid current]

argenti?

serval charges pretty fast too

[vagrant fog]

QQ

but need to be sacc

4 same tiles every turn

[quasi chasm]

true gamba

you fail you reset

[tough condor]

where's that guide to build character agai n?

I want to know herta relics set

[quasi chasm]

4p ice

wait does dreamy uploaded a updated herta guide?

this from dreamy

[tough condor]

I see pinned docs in HSR help channel

bruh this channel pin pretty outdated

this one

[quasi chasm]

ngl i might actually farm firmanent

cus of mei, herta can now use it

[vagrant fog]

wtf full ice set

time to strip JL and put it to Herta

[tough condor]

I used quantum set on JL

[vagrant fog]

nvm

[tough condor]

now suffer like me

[carmine burrow]

it might not fit

Herta is too small

[ornate bronze]

U mean her height right

[quasi chasm]

isnt the body on hunter set a robe?

[fresh juniper]

the gacha

[fresh juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/starwars-ifitworks-forthebetter-right-anakin-gif-24444626

[winged mulch]

From prydwen for Herta

[carmine burrow]

pretty accurate

you can build a case for grand duke because she can hit up to 8 times with kuru kuru

[vagrant fog]

no more Salsotto eh

[carmine burrow]

ohh huh

why not salsotto tho

[winged mulch]

At least I have more of these

[carmine burrow]

she uses her ult and follow up a lot in PF

[vagrant fog]

Ako, if IL have rerun

would you pull Daniel LC for Clara?

[spiral wolf]

spin2win so broken I had to rerun to record it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfjUrUy-D-o

[carmine burrow]

kazma

can you verify if this is real peako

[spiral wolf]

[tough condor]

himekoless

[carmine burrow]

getting himeko in standard is a great blessing for me lol

[spiral wolf]

use march sustain must be real peako

[vagrant fog]

[spiral wolf]

that black swan revelation event thing said i used march most

[carmine burrow]

I verified it

not real peako

he used Pela ult before RM ult

[spiral wolf]

it's actually better somehow

I dont understand why either

[carmine burrow]

wait

you actually beat Dreamy at her game

[spiral wolf]

probably hitting vs not hitting hp threshold or something

[carmine burrow]

since Dreamy didn't get 80k points

ohh E6 Herta

[spiral wolf]

well my team looks kinda whel but it's well within bp+monthly (exactly what I pay)

[carmine burrow]

I only have E3 or something

[spiral wolf]

just to be very fair lol

[carmine burrow]

maybe I should build my Herta

[spiral wolf]

pela and march actually played a big role cuz when they aoe break ruan mei will do damage to reach half hp for herta to spin

[tough condor]

creditless matless for herta

[spiral wolf]

that freed himeko for the other side

instead of usual kurukuru + chainsaw on same side combo

[vagrant fog]

after watching that video

I already forget who is Dreamy

I only know Peako

[carmine burrow]

we stan "Peako" now

80k points pro

[spiral wolf]

bruh

[carmine burrow]

I will comment "Peako said Dreamy is a hack"

[spiral wolf]

i rather play my game in peace thanks

uploading gameplay is enough

[vagrant fog]

"Not even 80k points lmao, not like Peako's vid"

bro

I still got around 55k ish

is this... skill issue?

[spiral wolf]

it's quite character dependent

[vagrant fog]

I think I should remove Kafka

[spiral wolf]

the follow up chars kinda kave advantage cuz they can clear out of usual turn order locked by speed

except jing yuan

[carmine burrow]

remove Sampo

try Dreamy's approach in node 1

just spam Argenti base ult

and abuse Tingyun refill

[tough condor]

you lack

[carmine burrow]

change Sampo into someone like Asta or a fire/electro dps

[vagrant fog]

yeah already spamming Argen ult

[carmine burrow]

you have Mid Yuan, right? think he might help in node 2

[vagrant fog]

my midyuan is really mid

no damage at all lol

[carmine burrow]

it's time to meme

[spiral wolf]

mid yuan is slow first i got 73k using jy hyper on second half

[carmine burrow]

FX/Mid Yuan/Kafka/Topaz on node 2

do it

[spiral wolf]

hmm yea make him subdps is prob for the better there

[carmine burrow]

tho I really suggest copying Dreamy's set up on node 1 and do some other shit on node 2

[spiral wolf]

those LL coming down are overkill for 5 mobs with so little hp lol

[carmine burrow]

change approach too

don't focus on nuking the boss on 3rd wave

just focus on clearing the critters

[spiral wolf]

if you inspect the boss it says it becomes vulnerable after all mobs ded

[carmine burrow]

yeah

[spiral wolf]

save ult near the finish and that ult will do damage per screenshot like in that first EOW

[vagrant fog]

[carmine burrow]

if you can't 3 star with our advises, then it is skill tissue

you can also raise a herta for 40 days

[spiral wolf]

wait kazma dont you also have runa e1

[vagrant fog]

ssssh

[spiral wolf]

her break is actually helping a lot with the last bits of hp left

[carmine burrow]

smh this whel

having trouble

[tough condor]

imagine being desperate for this event you ended up impulse and take himeko from 300 standard

[vagrant fog]

without sustain, my first team is deadge on 3rd stage

[frosty bane]

Suddenly ppls losing 50/50 to Himeko no longer complaining

[spiral wolf]

lost to himeko twice, never complained

was like oh ok i'll beat moc deer with this

[carmine burrow]

skill tissue

[vagrant fog]

wtf

saved

now I can slacc

*unless *

so TY is the wae

[spiral wolf]

[vagrant fog]

now TY, please back to the bench again

I also did misplay before using RM ult earlier which is not needed

[tough condor]

what the hell

march,tingyun,JL,nat team were suck

[safe oriole]

Ditch Nat

[quasi chasm]

game pls be useful relic

[tough condor]

then healer doko

[safe oriole]

No need healer if they are dead

[carmine burrow]

is this pure fiction

[quasi chasm]

[carmine burrow]

you don't need 2 sustain

[silent owl]

trying again for fun and i keep pushing enemies out of the last cycle so they dont detonate

[quasi chasm]

[tough condor]

fuck only 50k in node 2

im really at loss here

[quasi chasm]

void pls theres 40 days left to do PF

[vagrant fog]

time for cooking more

you can remove nat

I am not using any sustain on node 2

[quasi chasm]

agree youre still in lvl 2 you might can survive without a healer

[vagrant fog]

unga bunga

or use Bailu for style point

[ornate bronze]

Eyo

Bronya piece

U should give it to me coffee

[ornate bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/hololive-ホロライブ-hologra-ホロぐら-nekomata-okayu-gif-24787354

[ornate bronze]

Isn't that a ratio piece

[vagrant fog]

yooooo, for my Topaz

[quasi chasm]

its himeko piece krem

[ornate bronze]

Coffee

He can use it

And other follow up attackers aswell

[quasi chasm]

krem whale using follow up attack piece for bronya
means krem have e4

[ornate bronze]

It holds value for me

[quasi chasm]

hes using 4p quan on me

[ornate bronze]

Do u know the reason why

[vagrant fog]

Ratio better use new set later

[ornate bronze]

I built kritka,kritluka,kritsampo

[quasi chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/jujuju-anime-anime-jujuju-laughing-anime-laugh-gif-20079540

[tame flint]

[vagrant fog]

glad im not a mod

[quasi chasm]

ngl i thought krem just wanted to build them like that
dint expect its a serious build

ig like krem said before if it works it works

[ornate bronze]

I literally made a video of me using Kafka in hunt path coffee with the crit build also

[vagrant fog]

critka is still fine for me

[ornate bronze]

[vagrant fog]

critsampo?

thats already passed the line

[quasi chasm]

ey critsampo kinda cooks

i think mishi send a video about it

[ornate bronze]

Critsampo works ig

And Critluka can also work if he's E6

https://youtu.be/ZZw1tdpRm9M?si=65HR5SQM45Ezpobd

[vagrant fog]

cook my ass

[ornate bronze]

Random recommendations

[quasi chasm]

i dont remember who sended that video but it kinda convincing me to build sampo with crits

[ornate bronze]

E4 is kinda useless for crit sampo

Since it doesn't proc cirts

But other eidolons works

[quasi chasm]

ik, but whats fun is the big numbers

[ornate bronze]

[tough condor]

pure fiction more like pure erudiction

[plush willow]

pure himeko

[quasi chasm]

feels like the game is checking if we build herta/himeko

[heavy bobcat]

i guess I'll build herta

[plush willow]

your fault you didnt build herta on the first place

😤

[hushed night]

fkn pf4

spent an hour manual runs

just do get a 60k from full auto

[vagrant fog]

umeume???

[heavy bobcat]

4th line flat def

every roll into def

[plush willow]

jinxed

[orchid hull]

Also

When is new beta

[safe oriole]

Managed to squeeze out a 3 star with this lol

[carmine burrow]

E3 Clara wtf

[quasi chasm]

oh theres history

[vagrant fog]

kinda umeume

[carmine burrow]

maybe I should change the buff

[heavy bobcat]

i called the def

but flat

[vagrant fog]

I think I can use it for...... who

maybe Luocha

or Yukong

[quasi chasm]

luo with hp orb?

[vagrant fog]

4.4k ATK is too much I think

[quasi chasm]

but you should put it on yukong ngl
she has 9999% aggro

[vagrant fog]

I barely use my Yukong

or maybe Pela?

[quasi chasm]

agree

[orchid hull]

Pela

Pela is hella stronk this mode

Since her ult also interacts with the PF buff

[tame flint]

Ive never seen anyone use pela on pf

[quasi chasm]

also i recheck the relic it has big atk
now i see why you want it for luo

[silent owl]

pela's ok
one issue is that she cant get her ideal 2 turn ult as easily because the def debuff doesnt stick

[orchid hull]

I mean you can just try ig

[silent owl]

as for the original question on how good the orb is or who should use it, just slap it on whoever wants the penacony set to buff the same-type carry
honestly atk% and crit substats on support sets is

[vagrant fog]

my RM using Penacony set too

but I always put her with Argenti or Kafka

maybe I should swap her Penacon set with my Pela's Keel set

[tough condor]

hate this pure fiction shit with lack aoe and undergeared charas

[vagrant fog]

time to raise your Herta, guys

[silent owl]

https://i.redd.it/qvdnap1dt5bc1.png

[quasi chasm]

already did since 1.0

[silent owl]

raise herta and spark himeko real

[tough condor]

I can 3* node 1 and 2 only managed to 1* node 3 and got told "LOL THIS IS WHY YOU ROLL FOR HIMEKO SCRUB" by node 4

[frosty bane]

TY orb

[quasi chasm]

i lost to himeko but im not angry anymore

[vagrant fog]

my TY already use Vonwacq tho

[quasi chasm]

did anyone already calculated this?

can we wipe this shop before reset

[silent owl]

600 every moc and pf
a total of 3 every patch for 1800
also need exactly 1800 to wipe the whole store

[quasi chasm]

nc more mats

[worn sable]

your name and "angry for getting himeko" really doesnt go along with each other

[sweet meteor]

Is pure fiction available yet?

For na

[indigo gazelle]

Maybe this is why Himeko keeps coming to him

[sweet meteor]

Ikr

[worn sable]

[quasi chasm]

~~its a joke pin come on i just want to flex ~~

[worn sable]

oh, then i wish you get himeko for every 5050 from now on

[quasi chasm]

oh i def want that to happen

ill even exchange her if i got e1 on my lost

so ill have e2

[heavy bobcat]

lmao something crazy just happened

i leveled herta to 70 and got the 3 standard tickets

this is with first ticket

this is with 3rd ticket

[heavy bobcat]

10 pity btw

i just got bronya's lc the other day

[indigo gazelle]

I keep forgetting even his LC is chuuni

[wooden harness]

||Is the next relic set better for Ratio?||

[tame flint]

Cant be bothered to farm another set of relics, I already have one for him

It does look like a better option if you dont have one atm

[wooden harness]

Yeah I think I'll give my IMG set to Welt

[heavy bobcat]

man i have zero ice set

building herta gonna be a pain

[quasi chasm]

i think its not worth it to farm that cavern anymore
so more better to farm relic efficient cavern and just exchange it for ice set

[heavy bobcat]

exchange?

[quasi chasm]

ye this

[heavy bobcat]

oh

dang how long is that gonna take tho

10 pieces for one

[quasi chasm]

now idk tbh, but if its really that much then ig you can farm the cavern to speed up the process

[heavy bobcat]

any wind set I'll just put on my sampo

[tame flint]

About to get the resin from level 40

Planning on using to get another crate body

Surely I'll finally get it after all this time

The crate body that my seele desperately needs

[quasi chasm]

but sampo wants the new DoT set

[vagrant fog]

just slap some Genius set on her

[wooden harness]

wait a minute

[vagrant fog]

[heavy bobcat]

[vagrant fog]

[spiral wolf]

2 ice + 2 rainbow (or 2 FUA, 2 atk, whatever) + SSS or salsotto is enough for herta
so if you don't want to go to that relic mine you could craft head + hand ice pieces to avoid main stat rng and also avoid using resin on the ice set

[naive atlas]

I just remembered something about Herta

[vagrant fog]

you realized that Herta is best waifu?

[naive atlas]

Her name is pronounced sort of like heitaa in Chinese

And that kinda sounds like hater

[quasi chasm]

that happened to me and shes maxed now

[heavy bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-sousou-no-frieren-headpat-pat-pat-pat-gif-5015388234125492141

[carmine burrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmqOwQOxarU

[spiral tendon]

im gonna try the new stuf now

[vagrant fog]

real kuru kuru

[spiral tendon]

I didnt build her sadly

[quasi chasm]

wait is that the reason why my herta keep ulting?

well not like the video but she often ult more

[heavy bobcat]

damn every new content getting broken tricks

[quasi chasm]

i think the infinite ult is only for argenti tho cus he have energy steal lets say
depends on the enemy hits so in that case hes hitting 5 * 3 he'll regen 15 + the actual hit of the ult + when the enemy pop thats also energy regen

no wonder i got 40k on that run prob cus my herta ulting more

[rigid current]

is there a way to build xueyi right or am i using her wrong

i use the thief set but she seems lacking

[vagrant fog]

genius set is the wae

[indigo gazelle]

Is thief set even the recommended choice on anyone

Musketeer works well on pela but I don’t think thief set is the number 1 or 2 choice on anybody

[naive atlas]

Either the QUA or FUA sets?

Or 2 and 2

Thief is a meme

[rigid current]

thief is second best for xueyi

i chose it cause i got too many of that but no quantum pieces at all

[naive atlas]

Does she even scale on BE

[rigid current]

she has a passive that gives her a dmg increase based on break effect

on paper 145% break effect should be a 145% damge increase

[naive atlas]

Oh, that

Okay yeah I see now

[fallow delta]

My friend just got e1 ruanmei

[naive atlas]

I'm assuming you understand how her kit works already so I guess it's just pray for better subs

[fallow delta]

He alr got e1 jingliu in a single multi and e2 seele

Bro

[naive atlas]

Also synergize supports

She gets built like a standard DPS just with BE over ATK

[rigid current]

maybe pushing her to lvl 80 might be good?

or is she just too weak for simulated universe

[nocturne tartan]

managed to clear stage 4 with lv 50 herta

[naive atlas]

wtf pro

[wicked thistle]

Does that mean that my lvl 80 fully built Herta is going to absolutely crush Pure Fiction ?

[nocturne tartan]

I changed her speed boots to atk boots and she still has so much speed

[tame flint]

You have ruan mei and her own spd buff

[carmine burrow]

wtf pro

[carmine burrow]

she also has spd buff when there are enemies who are broken

[naive atlas]

sacc

[carmine burrow]

only stage 4 not 80k

kuru kuru stonks

[naive atlas]

pro

[winged mulch]

||https://fxtwitter.com/dimbreath/status/1744496316070146536|| Acheron kit

[vagrant fog]

flower

[unborn stump]

Too many words

[vagrant fog]

https://youtu.be/V64P2PsFlys

best waifu

[winged mulch]

https://fxtwitter.com/SipSipStefen/status/1744503459573882945

[rugged barn]

blade LC on Clara, yay or nay?

or save for her own LC

[safe oriole]

Nay

It works but nay

[rugged barn]

ok cool, i'm only running the F2P Lc so I was curious if this was a good upgrade

[vagrant fog]

If you want upgrade, maybe wait for IL LC rerun later

[carmine burrow]

yay but up to you

[rugged barn]

Yea I've seen people say thats the better one to get for her

[carmine burrow]

it's an upgrade, sure but you can maybe use those funds for something else

[rugged barn]

maybe it'll come back soon

[rigid current]

am i dumb or i just need better gear to clear purefiction 3

[carmine burrow]

upgrade that kurukuru in your bench

[plush willow]

upgrade your wallet

[carmine burrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knR3IMYpDvc kidding aside. you can clear it with 4 stars

so it's a matter of committing resources

[tough condor]

Tfw there's hoyolab auto check in bot for discord and telegram

[winged mulch]

I have so many units and still fail new mode

[tough condor]

You got himeko and herta how did you failed

[winged mulch]

Not enough damage

[tough condor]

raise them more feed level ,give them their optimum relics substat can be damned focus on getting the right main stat first

[carmine burrow]

what stage are you failing? you have like every character needed lol

[winged mulch]

58.3k stage 3 and 47.4k stage 4

[unborn stump]

Can herta carry for all four stages

[carmine burrow]

yes

[winged mulch]

Didn't experiment much

[orchid hull]

Barely passed to 11 stars

Man this is gonna be painful

[carmine burrow]

1. Raise that Himeko a little bit more so she can carry hard
2. someone here was successful with level 50 Herta. if you want comfortable sub dps, raise her to level 70 or something
3. I see you have problem with node 1 in stage 3. Considering that Himeko can't break the boss there, try swapping the team around and see how it goes. You can change your Tingyun to Asta if you do that so you can abuse Asta's trace
4. For stage 4, replace Tingyun with Herta and place Asta in 2nd node

[orchid hull]

I wanna raise Herta but she's so hard to build

[carmine burrow]

Herta is just like any dps/sub-dps

just go rainbow or some shit

[orchid hull]

I mean more like all the DPS relics are all in use rn

[carmine burrow]

skill tissue

[orchid hull]

I'll switch around but Herta is also Lv40

[thorn wadi]

conundrum 6

[orchid hull]

So...

[thorn wadi]

holy shit the capitalist method works lmao

[carmine burrow]

I found some shit rainbows and just used it on her

[orchid hull]

Touche

I'll just raise her till like Lv75 or something

And her traces

[carmine burrow]

that's a level 70 Herta. someone here successful with level 50

well, he has a better carry so there's that

[orchid hull]

Himeko

I dont have that

[carmine burrow]

all 4 stars

[orchid hull]

The Yukong and the March has LCs I dont have

[carmine burrow]

just lower it down

[orchid hull]

But I get your point, just that I'll probably need to respec a little

[carmine burrow]

all those 5 star LC he has are just nice to have anyway

[orchid hull]

Also relic gacha is shit

[thorn wadi]

almost 30k points 1st half

with my bp lc herta

I know it isn't the best lc for her

[carmine burrow]

she jsut needs to clear mobs after all

[orchid hull]

Fine, I'll raise kuru2 for the time being

[thorn wadi]

my best run with kurukuru

[orchid hull]

I'll just steal sets from Topaz

[thorn wadi]

man node 2 needs a lot of work

[rigid current]

ya my kururu is lvl60 though has lvled gear cause of planar infinity shenanigans

[wooden harness]

Is everyone building Herta?

[spiral wolf]

imma try to do it with 4 star team too

plus fmc lol

[carmine burrow]

Real Peako

[vagrant fog]

no if you have Chadgenti

[spiral wolf]

daily farming and then i can try it

[thick ore]

oh no

[carmine burrow]

probably doable with Pela subdps and Herta main dps for node 1

[carmine burrow]

node 2 gonna suck a bit since you really need Serval to carry

[wooden harness]

Is Jingliu and Kafka dot team good

[spiral wolf]

goal isnt 80k tho it'll be the 60k

[carmine burrow]

still hard

[spiral wolf]

yea i know chara limits lol

atm aside from xueyi no 4 star can do what herta does

[carmine burrow]

Serval sucks coz her E only hit 3 units since she is fake eru lol

[spiral wolf]

i mean attacking out of turn

[carmine burrow]

ohh

[spiral wolf]

that's very key to scoring fast lmao

[carmine burrow]

I think they managed it by brute force for node 2 lol

[spiral wolf]

I do have serval level & traced but her gears suck ig I can just yoink himeko's 4pc

[thick ore]

hmmm i see

[spiral wolf]

it's just 2pc atk + 2pc dot anyways so it's all in atk

[thick ore]

they uh
nerfed her trace and e1
buffed talent
buffed e2
nerfed e6 LMAO

[spiral wolf]

lmfao i'm farming hunt calyx

my herta spun everything out of existence in auto before ruan mei skills

some of my charas are faster than ruan mei with ruan mei's speed buff

[carmine burrow]

did you do fast Herta?

[spiral wolf]

ye my herta is 142

in that vid too

[carmine burrow]

ohh

[spiral wolf]

and my ruan mei is 153

[thick ore]

oh dear

[carmine burrow]

wtf sacc

my RM is slow af lol

[spiral wolf]

i thought i unsacc cuz i keep seeing yt people have higher

then again my speed rolls on account is in exchange it's very painful for me to farm crits

[carmine burrow]

my spd rolls are all trash

my fastest character is Kafka which is just enough to trigger Glamoth lol

[spiral wolf]

[vagrant fog]

not really

[silent owl]

Jingliu doesnt have any synergy with dot team
Freeze does but jl only freezes on break like any other ice chara

[vagrant fog]

me with Kafka and Sampo only got around 20k ish on stage 4

[orchid hull]

TLDR what did they do to BS?

[spiral wolf]

PF buffs you can choose are pretty neutral but for the current phase it's kinda tailored for herta himeko argenti

these three'll do well in any buff tho for this mode

[orchid hull]

Just lowers the Sacrament stacks to 50?

[thick ore]

tldr they slightly changed her and she still has really really REALLY bad energy issues

[orchid hull]

I mean

[vagrant fog]

so BS is bad

[spiral wolf]

i'll stay happy with runa e1 then

[vagrant fog]

[orchid hull]

Its fine tbh you dont need the Ult if you have Kafka

Also I ran out of EXP

[spiral wolf]

'bs is bad' will become my perfect excuse for blowing my jades on runa

do it hoyo

[carmine burrow]

my "DoT" team

[orchid hull]

And my Kuru2 is only Lv50

[vagrant fog]

even if BS is good

[orchid hull]

God help me

[vagrant fog]

your Sushang doesnt get benefit from BS

[spiral wolf]

true

[carmine burrow]

Kafka actually relegated to just being a breaker

[spiral wolf]

kazma finding me more excuses

[thick ore]

sparkle changes

[carmine burrow]

wait... wonder if I can use Serval on team 2

[vagrant fog]

offf

huge nerf

[spiral wolf]

2.0 safe skip now?

[orchid hull]

Oof

[carmine burrow]

Sparkle not sparkling anytime soon

[spiral wolf]

[orchid hull]

Huge nerf

From CRate to ATK%

[spiral wolf]

~~pull runa guys ~~

[vagrant fog]

that E6 nerf

I skip pulling her E6 then

[spiral tendon]

Gotta save for e6 firefly now

[rigid current]

i tried e2 xueyi also, her while gimmick is break effect but it doesnt feel efficient

[spiral wolf]

the weird thing about quantum break is you want just the right amount so the mob is delayed just enough for 5 hits in

[orchid hull]

She thrives in 3 enemy comps

Not so much above that

[spiral wolf]

i think I have too much BE on her for breaking purpose lol

[rigid current]

thought i think its a lvl issue

she can spam karmas alot faster with ascension 6 talent

[spiral wolf]

break effect = automatic level 80

[orchid hull]

Also

Her BiS CE hasnt arrived yet

[rigid current]

e2 makes it so xueyi karma will damge toughness on anything

[spiral wolf]

hmm i'll make vc for my 4 star pure fiction struggle gonna be swapping gears first tho

[polar merlin]

So I just had one of the best RNG Luck....

[vagrant fog]

but for who

[orchid hull]

But for who I wonder

[vagrant fog]

the sub stat is sacc tho

but the main stat

[polar merlin]

I was thinking for Seele

[carmine burrow]

put it on Bailu

[spiral tendon]

Xueyi

[orchid hull]

Xueyi

[vagrant fog]

isnt DPS better use ele dmg boost instead of ATK?

[thorn wadi]

yes and no... it depends

[orchid hull]

No wait

Tingyun

[silent owl]

Most dps prefer dmg% unless their kit already has too much dmg%
Like xueyi

[thorn wadi]

if you have massive external buffs (like bronya's 90% dmg boost on skill or ruan mei's insane dmg boost) then it can be competitive

I use it because it has more sacc substats than my dmg% orbs lmao

[thick ore]

https://tenor.com/view/qingque-hakari-dance-honkai-star-rail-star-rail-gamba-gif-5460666334907449924

[vagrant fog]

give it to Luocha

[silent owl]

Thing about atk% vs dmg% orb is that atk% tends to already have a head start since you have atk rope, and chest for dot charas

Then you have jl who gets 180% atk for free, qq for gets atk on hidden hand (she gets dmg on skill but you get into hidden hand more often than you spam skills)

[spiral wolf]

bruh my pc screaming today ig no strim

[winged mulch]

https://youtu.be/CoG1GDsUC0Y

[orchid hull]

Gonna try a JL/Herta team on the first half

Should be doable

I wanna go no sustain but last time that happened everyone got killed by Gepard

[worn sable]

i thought pure fiction is time gate or smt and more stage will unlock but it's like MoC ?

[winged mulch]

There will be more I think

[silent owl]

No its like moc

Just a 4 stages moc for now

[spiral wolf]

that last stage so far is already level 85 enemies

if there's more, aint gonna be many more

[vagrant fog]

tch

it should be 12 stages like MoC

[spiral wolf]

[gilded pine]

it's 3 waves each stage

[spiral wolf]

is it just me or yt kinda quiet about this mode do they not want to give in to erudition that much

[gilded pine]

cause the mode's easy

just toss in herta and you clear one side

[spiral wolf]

moc is easy too

[frosty bane]

The mode is just erudition check, not much variety in team comp for YT vid

[carmine burrow]

https://vxtwitter.com/honkaistarrail/status/1744569965255205312

[frosty bane]

Finally a reason to farm SU more than once a week

[nocturne tartan]

finally beat moc12

[vagrant fog]

[nocturne tartan]

having a hard time on 1st team because I used lynx blade sanpo and pela

pls give luocha

[fresh juniper]

DOUBLE??

[spiral wolf]

sushang enjoyer

[nocturne tartan]

i like sushang and gui, my gui is e0 though

[orchid hull]

Damn, just in time

Wanna farm for Salsotto

I dont have an Ice orb

[spiral wolf]

i have to farm world 6 too but for march ehr substats

[orchid hull]

Btw, a lot of people are complaining about BS's energy, what are the tester's comments about that

[thick ore]

shit energy

[orchid hull]

Well she does have good damage at least

[orchid hull]

And is her ult THAT integral to her damage?

[thick ore]

yes, thats where all those stacks go boom and added effects

[orchid hull]

Well at least Kafka can boom it right, before the ult

[carmine burrow]

no ult = no sacrament = no kafka boom

[thick ore]

^

well to be more precise, no ult = no sacrament and epiphany = no kafka boom

[orchid hull]

No no no, I mean before her ult can Kafka even boom it with her skill?

[carmine burrow]

no

it's the ult that makes the stack to be DoT

it's not a DoT otherwise so Kafka can't trigger them

so if BS has energy issues, it might restrict her to some HH/TY/BS/Kafka team idk

[silent owl]

It is a dot isnt it

Pretty sure it has always been able to be detonated, but concerns were without the bonus effects at 3 stack etc

[carmine burrow]

it is a damage over time but I believe they added some keywords here and there that restricts it such that it can't be detonated

iirc it's that ult that makes it something that can be detonated

[thick ore]

well, technically incorrect. her sacraments still is regarded as wind dot

[orchid hull]

Dammit I hate Discord Mobile, cant search in forums

But iirc it can still be detonated

[thick ore]

but black swans ult makes her stacks do a lot more damage than you can imagine

it does yes

[orchid hull]

With Kafka Skill/ult before BS ult

Yee that's what I meant

[thick ore]

but again, not as much after ult

[orchid hull]

The ult only makes it count itself as a DOT for Sacrament stacks

[thick ore]

her ult is really integral with her stacks

[carmine burrow]

huh.. someone corrected me that Kafka can't trigger it normally

[orchid hull]

[carmine burrow]

and it needs the ult

[orchid hull]

Ako pls

[carmine burrow]

why me

[spiral wolf]

Misinformation.gif

[carmine burrow]

SOMEONE

[thick ore]

|| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czcbUXjJbt0 ||

this vid helps seeing it

around 0:06

[orchid hull]

Yeah

Exactly what I mean

[thick ore]

but as you can see in that vid as well

her energy is quite a problem

[orchid hull]

It fking is

[orchid hull]

Ako pls

[carmine burrow]

fuck

why ping me for that

[thick ore]

but ye, her stacks does a lot more damage after she ults

not even close when kafka is triggering it

[orchid hull]

As expected

[carmine burrow]

you know what. I will just speak about anything

[orchid hull]

https://tenor.com/view/trolling-anime-me-after-a-long-day-gif-25970094

[thick ore]

@orchid hull you know how bad it is?

cn players are thrashing black swan

[orchid hull]

She really needs an energy source somewhere

Otherwise her damage is good

[spiral wolf]

could make something like the SU blessing thingy regen energy on dot tick

[orchid hull]

Everytime her dot explodes, she gains 2 Energy

Is probably what I can see happening

[ornate bronze]

What did I miss?

[orchid hull]

Yes

[thick ore]

v3 2.0 beta

and no changes to black swans problems

[orchid hull]

I mean I'll still pull for BS

[thick ore]

heres the thing though for those who want to get the best value for kafka teams

its e1 or get kafkas LC to give to kafka

[carmine burrow]

I am sorry for being an idiot. my bad. I won't post here again. sorry again

[thick ore]

cause e0 black swan and kafka LC is just 18% more damage for kafka while her lc gives 13% more

[orchid hull]

I'm sorry Ako I'm just messing with ya

[spiral wolf]

[ornate bronze]

Wait we have a spreadsheet for BS LC comparison?

[orchid hull]

I do have Kafka LC on Kafka

So that's nice

[thick ore]

apparently its in keqing mains discord, and coming from the guy who does a lot of exact or near calcs. seraphii iirc.

he calculated if its worth to get bs or kafkas LC instead

conclusion is to do whatever you want, but the difference is minscule if its just e0 black swan

if your a whale, e1 black swan is obviously better if you can get that

and just slap black swan with that 4 star free LC of silver wolf

but ye

thats the gist of it

[ornate bronze]

Wait waht

So wait

[thick ore]

and CN players reactions to black swan didnt get any changes really backs it up sadly

[ornate bronze]

Sampo LC or F2P SW LC?

[thick ore]

f2p sw lc

cause again

her main issue is her energy

[ornate bronze]

Even GNSW?

[thick ore]

if you want more damage sure

but energy wise?

heck no

[ornate bronze]

So basically she doesn't function that well without the right energy

[thick ore]

without her ult yes

130 energy

[ornate bronze]

Hmm

[thick ore]

with no other means to getting energy besides external sources

[ornate bronze]

How much does her sacrament gives

When it procs

[thick ore]

damage wise?

a lot

[ornate bronze]

Doesn't it show that the trotter gives alot of DoT?

[thick ore]

no, this does not include the dots it took

[ornate bronze]

Didn't*

[thick ore]

thats only sacraments doing that damage explosion

[ornate bronze]

Wtf

I'll be fair with you shinjo

[thick ore]

theres a big reason why her ult is very essential

[ornate bronze]

I kinda want E1 BS

But in the same time

I want sparkles also

[thick ore]

well

[ornate bronze]

[thick ore]

theres only one solution

oh woops

[ornate bronze]

I can't swipe

[thick ore]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-swipe-gif-10863986

[ornate bronze]

Well if I can't get both

[silent owl]

Right now its just sounding like BS does great off ult and insane in ult and people are mad that shes not constantly insane

[ornate bronze]

That means I have to do GoG and Swarm

[thick ore]

in the meantime sparkles got a slight buff

due to her talent changing from crit rate to atk 15%

[silent owl]

Like, this part
The point of a dps is to do more damage and getting energy to ult is just a way to get there

So does event lc give her more damage than gnsw in the long run

[ornate bronze]

No more crit rate buff???

[thick ore]

its more on the fact she needs her ult to do more explosion damage

[ornate bronze]

[thick ore]

yes

[ornate bronze]

My QQ can't possibly get 70% CR

[thick ore]

change to 15% attack

which imo is better

since qq and seele have atk buff problems

[ornate bronze]

That is correct

But in the same time

[thick ore]

if you lack crit rate, that is a luck issue am afraid

[ornate bronze]

My seele

Isn't going to be a problem

Since she's already 75% CR and 180% CD

QQ on the other hand has 70% with Fuxuan

[thick ore]

Also idk if gnsw is good on black swan even damage wise against sw lc

Since her passive gives her dmg bonus already depending on her ehr

[ornate bronze]

Mhm

I might aswell just wait for a spreadsheet

[thick ore]

Am 100 positive that damage wise sampos lc is up there

[ornate bronze]

I have it S5

Actually quick question @thick ore

What's the most used comp for BS rn

Kafka/BS/RM/Luocha?

[thick ore]

Kafka, bs rm and huohuo

[ornate bronze]

Welp

Don't have huohuo

I can get a guaranteed swan

But idk about sparkles

[safe oriole]

Just use any healer

[ornate bronze]

HuoHuo seems perfect for BS since she needs energy and gives att buff

[safe oriole]

Wasn't there a spread sheet about sampo being better than rm in bs comp

[thick ore]

And every single tester has said the same thing and even my impression of her is the same. Damage wise shes good... but her ult is very essential to her damage and the fact she doesnt have any ways to recover ER is a big problem

[thick ore]

He said most used

Not best

[ornate bronze]

I was about to say TY but then I remember HuoHuo exist

[safe oriole]

[thick ore]

But the team is a bit sp negative

So they stuck with rm

To balance it out

[ornate bronze]

Sampo could be SP positive

Sampo could have the Pearl of Swest

So that he can basically give energy for BS that has SW Lc

[silent owl]

The BS discourse and reasoning just sounds incredibly silly
Its like a marathon runner sprints the last 100m and then everyone shits on him because he didnt sprint the whole marathon at his top speed
Well thats his top speed, not his average speed

[spiral wolf]

just pray for quid pro quo on healer

[silent owl]

BS can do insane damage after ulting but why are you pegging her damage potential on that ult instead of through her entire rotation

[spiral wolf]

yea it really sounds like gaslighting hoyo into giving bs everything (shhhh)

[thick ore]

cause majority of her damage and kit sync comes from her ult

@ornate bronze hopefully this helps your pulls

|| this is another event aside from odessey, basically 20 free pulls when 2.0 hits ||

[ornate bronze]

||it will definitely help||

[rigid current]

when is 2.0?