Honkai: Star Rail (Old)

[carmine burrow]

on 2nd phase

[heavy bobcat]

can i even counter boss effect res without remembrance ehr buff

should i even bother trying to play dissociation

[ocean plover]

My first 5 star is Yanqing

[carmine burrow]

my condolences

[heavy bobcat]

my condolences

wow

[naive atlas]

My condolences

You got the worst 5★

[ocean plover]

Like actually worse or only saying that cause he jobs in cutscenes?

[heavy bobcat]

i dont think im gonna win this run even with the ruan mei

disruption level 9

bruh boss already have 4 weakness cant even plant lightning with sw

uhhh nvm then

super comfy

[carmine burrow]

I had the mistake of copying domain into the last domain before boss and had like 7k frags that I wasn't able to use

[carmine burrow]

it's just a meme here. YQ is fine overall

[ocean plover]

Right now I have the 4 stars: tingyun, Herta, Asta, Sampo

[ebon vigil]

f

[ocean plover]

no

I got Tingyun so the game could give me actual poop and I'd be happy

[silent owl]

oh my god enemy nihility reso is fucking awful once it has double reso formations (high EHR and action forward on dot triggers), my characters lose half their health every turn
absolute nailbiter of a run where i could have died 100 times over but i carefully cycled all the action forwards i had to give QQ half a dozen turns every time, and a few lucky freezes from gepard that stopped the bug ults
cond 8 clear

[heavy bobcat]

i got ruan mei part 2 before part 1

so unfortunate

[frosty bane]

Triple sustain

[tame flint]

Nahhh

[silent owl]

wasnt an OP run and literally needed every sustain
gepard for shields otherwise i dont have enough max hp and freeze to disable the boss sometimes
luocha's field so qq can heal up the team during her infinite turns
fx's CC-resist field against the exploding bugs

[tame flint]

I was doing so well in my remembrance run and the game literally pulled the frigid boss

I won though

Why'd they gave this thing like 3 million hp though

Shame on you game for literally bringing the guy who's not welcomed by anyone running Remembrance

Yeah.. that's enough GaG

[naive atlas]

Nanoka

[heavy bobcat]

damn cheesed through con6

dude this ruan mei trick is so broken 😭

[tame flint]

[heavy bobcat]

i was struggling against con2 just yesterday

[peak agate]

My last 5* for the Standard banner before the 300 was

[quasi chasm]

i cant do the first plane mei
tried to do 2nd plane mei and got it first try

[peak agate]

Wait what

No wonder why lol

[quasi chasm]

wait, did i miss something in the video

[tame flint]

Nah

Just unlucky with the abnormal occurrences

[quasi chasm]

[heavy bobcat]

you'd need quite a lot of double abnormal occurrences to get it in the first plane

like 9

[tame flint]

10

[heavy bobcat]

10

[quasi chasm]

sadly i cant go back on plane 1, i got total of 16 in there but i still dint get so ye bad occurrence

[peak agate]

I did Nihility for the first time and it went much better then I expected

[olive lynx]

can someone explain that ruan mei trick? The video confused me

[heavy bobcat]

what conundrum you on

[tame flint]

Am done with GaG now

[peak agate]

Oooof your luck is super bad

[tame flint]

Just gonna farm other stuff now

[tame flint]

Like what part isn't clicking

Its basically just get as much abnormal occurrences as much as possible

[olive lynx]

Im not a Native English speaker and didnt understand him

[quasi chasm]

even on the 2nd plane i needed two 2x occu to get the 2 mei
they couldve just gave 2 to me in one 2x

[tame flint]

So you get die faces that helps you achieve that

[olive lynx]

thank you for explaining it simply again

[peak agate]

Simple is best

[heavy bobcat]

doesn't really matter if you get it early or not

if you get both meis you're good to go

[tame flint]

It kinda does ngl

[heavy bobcat]

[tame flint]

Plane 1 boss can wipe ur team if youre unlucky

[olive lynx]

is the x2 or so important?

[heavy bobcat]

maybe in high conundrum

[tame flint]

Or skill issue

[heavy bobcat]

yeah

[tame flint]

Yeah

[peak agate]

Basically get times 2 as often as possible

[tame flint]

Uhm@olive lynx

Have you like unlocked the dice?

The faces of the die?

[olive lynx]

lemme check

these right?

[tame flint]

Yeah

Now its just a matter of how much of the domain you get

[peak agate]

[tame flint]

Wait why did i recorded that

[olive lynx]

you just want as many as you can right?

[quasi chasm]

not sure if thats the case or its because im doing it on conun 10

[olive lynx]

still keeping watch of the countdown or what?

[quasi chasm]

game is keeping me away from mei as much as possible

[tame flint]

Hmm..

Maybe you can ignore it

[peak agate]

I don’t need Raun Mei to give me as many blessings I’ll just try and wing it

[tame flint]

You'll be getting a ton of blessings and enhance them before you fight the boss anyway

[tame flint]

Then maybe the next time you encounter her

Choose the fragments

And ignore the blessings

[peak agate]

Fuck no lol I’ll just never get her

[tame flint]

I guess you'll need to clear diff 5 first

[peak agate]

I got this maybe

[tame flint]

[peak agate]

[olive lynx]

The "No Risk" right?

[tame flint]

Ye

They force you to fight the next encounter if you choose the others, i think

[peak agate]

What do you get

[olive lynx]

So im not allowed to fight at all?

[tame flint]

Its written there

[tame flint]

Ehh you can but, why tho

[olive lynx]

just wanted to know for safety if it happens

[tame flint]

When you can just move on safely

[peak agate]

You can get broken Curio

[tame flint]

Dont listen to him

He sucks at cooking

[peak agate]

I’m a bad influence

[peak agate]

I don’t actually

[tame flint]

[peak agate]

But never do what I do

[quasi chasm]

ngl abundance is kinda op
i survived the body slam with this level

[peak agate]

Ya think

[quasi chasm]

well all abundance + all upgraded as well

now time to do other dice and abuse nihility

[peak agate]

I used nihility for the first time and it went much better then expected

[quasi chasm]

if you have kafka and mei, sus and gears will be breeze

[peak agate]

Maybe won’t do it again unless I build Guinfen

[peak agate]

You see I don’t have Kafka

I used Jingliu, Silver wolf, Ruan Mei and Fu Xuan

[quasi chasm]

still fine tho but itll be slower

[peak agate]

I don’t know if I should try destruction next

[quasi chasm]

dest can be used by everyone iirc

[quasi chasm]

did you get mei?

[olive lynx]

This is first Plane

[quasi chasm]

thats almost the same as mine
except the 2nd tile is reward

[olive lynx]

Is there anything I need to keep in mind for Plane 2?

[quasi chasm]

if you dint get mei you need 2x or the arrow one

before she shows

[olive lynx]

Imagine getting no 2x or arrow beacon in plane 2 at all .-.

[quasi chasm]

you dont have cheat?

use it on here

[olive lynx]

I had cheat, but used it in plane 1

[quasi chasm]

your only choice now is to stall as much as possible and get that dice

[olive lynx]

Im past Plane 2

[quasi chasm]

damn i wonder how much disruption level youll get

[olive lynx]

im at 5 rn

[carmine burrow]

that's like getting Ruan Mei on a normal run the odds are low lol

plane 2 RM is almost always possible as long as you use reroll and cheat aggressively

[ornate bronze]

What's the 4th slot?

SW or Pela?

I should probably built welt

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/856506094658125828/1192595480719392858/give-me-every-variant-of-biden-blast-out-there-you-can-find-v0-riuus0vojlub1.jpg?ex=65a9a617&is=65973117&hm=11ce74db1d3b13b11cf0346b128128e0be80936ab1ef0152f7773ecfe88f1434&

[naive atlas]

wtf

[carmine burrow]

this is cursed

[scenic blaze]

I'm salty

[vale breach]

Ban Mai please

[ornate bronze]

They'res no way this is yours

[sharp kestrel]

No way that isn't edited

[fresh juniper]

https://vxtwitter.com/iamkowai/status/1742576554306363551?s=20

[buoyant veldt]

I tab back into here after a long time and this is the first thing I see

[naive atlas]

I keep getting this stupid ad of some streamer or something with an obnoxious voice reacting to Jingliu's trailer

[fresh juniper]

ah those "reaction ads"

[formal vector]

how

[naive atlas]

Yes, reaction ads are one of my most hated format

Usually because the streamer in question has an ear grating voice but also because they are terrible ads

[orchid hull]

I am going to fking-

MODS PLEASE

[solar dock]

holy crap lois I rolled 4 5 stars in a 10 pull, is that good?

[formal vector]

idk, doesn't sound good to me, needs at least 6 5*

[vagrant fog]

talk to me when 10 5*

[orchid hull]

Not umeume

[thorn wadi]

ugh it works

pog

[ocean plover]

Did my first non-tutorial Simulated Universe, it's really neat

[orchid hull]

Wait till you get to endgame SU

in Swarm and Gold n Gears

Its fun

[ocean plover]

I'm always down for roguelites

[orchid hull]

Btw is this better?

Using it for Clara, she doesnt have other speed substats rn

[safe oriole]

Clara doesn't need speed tho

I would say take the top one

Eff res is handy on clara but if you don't care about that and have enough crit rate go bottom

[vagrant fog]

for me, if your CRate already 50%, I prefer take btm one

[safe oriole]

50% is never enough

At least 70

[vagrant fog]

no crit? just reset

[ocean plover]

I got Luka and Xueyi, they any good?

[vagrant fog]

Xueyi is good

[ocean plover]

She's the first purple icon character I got

[vagrant fog]

can compete with 5* in terms of damage output

(on e6 ofc)

[naive atlas]

Luka can be good

He's a bleed based DPS

[tough condor]

Potential man luka

[naive atlas]

#1064922790223958146 message

[ocean plover]

Just met Svarog...DC Douglas voicing a sentient mech? Considering the Kiseki games are an inspiration, that can't be a coincidence

[worn sable]

[vagrant fog]

Kiseki Bijou

[orchid hull]

Gonna slap a Crate chest, ye she's above 50%

• I have Rye LC that gives 24% Crate when defeating an enemy

Also FX gives 12% Crate

[vagrant fog]

or pull Blade LC

for 18% CRate

[timber wyvern]

finally, SUS diff 5 with rememebrance

nearly wiped too

[orchid hull]

Nah

Dont wanna win

[safe oriole]

Save 600 for her lc

[vagrant fog]

Blade LC > Her Sign LC

[orchid hull]

Nah, I'd win

I have built up enough pity for both BS and her LC

Dont wanna waste it

[peak agate]

What is this power

[vagrant fog]

uhhh?

slow af FX?

[spiral wolf]

50 crit rate on a single damage line dps

+12 = 62 still quite

[vagrant fog]

this reminds me I need to get gold SPD boots for my FX

her SPD rn cant catch up on higher Conun lvl

especially if the enemy can use Nihil

[spiral wolf]

could get one from self modeling resin if there's plenty of err rope to go around

[vagrant fog]

my FX still using full set of HP set with Purple boots

I have bunch of ERR already

the SPD boots is the problem

[spiral wolf]

been savin 'for err rope' like people said but i dropped the damn ropes anyway

yeah i want spd boots for new characters at this point, how many new characters are gonna immediately want a specific err rope that you'd use self modeling resin for it

new characters to build almost always want spd boots

[silent owl]

try a ruan mei glitch run
0 purple occurances in plane 1
cool

[prisma crow]

Wtf where my xueyi

[orchid hull]

Slow FX kekw

You want her to be fast enough for SP Regen + to up her skill in time since the skill can block debuffs one time

134 is good enough

[vagrant fog]

I should try these RM glitch occurences

[peak agate]

well it isn’t mine but I want it

[orchid hull]

Also

With that LC they should have had 8k + health

Hmm anyway, should I change my Longevouz set to a Wuthering set for my FX?

[silent owl]

[vagrant fog]

I prefer 2 HP set + 2 speed set / that damage taken set

[orchid hull]

I used the Healing set actually

She heals to full with that + heals more when ulting

[vagrant fog]

well, without healing set, she always healing herself on full hp

so i didnt see what the purpose of healing set

[spiral wolf]

she heals 90% of missing hp so with healing set it's 99%

[vagrant fog]

those 9%

[spiral wolf]

it's more hp per ult cycling

[orchid hull]

More HP ye

[spiral wolf]

if you think that 9% is low 12% hp from hp set is even lower boost than that

[orchid hull]

So she sustains the team more

[spiral wolf]

[vagrant fog]

still not convinced

I prefer speed and hp set

[orchid hull]

And that's fine tbh

just make sure her stats are in line

[spiral wolf]

for my fuxuan with already all hp main stats except speed boot, I wanna do wuthering + healing but I haven't found wuthering with good stats yet

2spd 2hp is just easiest to farm with just slightly less sustain but it's also enough for the game

[orchid hull]

Yes

Same node

[spiral wolf]

mine started from 2spd 2hp, then to 2spd 2healing

once I go back to the quantam relic mines I'll have the wuthering hopefully

cuz building xueyi

[orchid hull]

I dunno if I can build better than this, the substat rolls are just too good

Also this is with Landau and Landau's stats are so low

[spiral wolf]

what superimpose on landau

you could just wait for more landaus or gepard sig jumpscare really

[orchid hull]

S3

I also have S3 March LC

She's tanking really well tbh

[spiral wolf]

day one isn't that good on her once she has enough substats to take direct damage to her face instead of sharing from ally

[orchid hull]

Survived MOC12 like a champ

[spiral wolf]

landau is bis next to sig/gepard

[orchid hull]

She didnt drop

Yeah

Ik its just that the stats is a bit lethargic compared to Day One

But 20% DMG Reduction is no joke

[spiral wolf]

i'm eyeballing it but basically your fx with 1.4k def on s3 landau is basically equivalent to 1.8k-2.2k def without landau's dmg reduction

[orchid hull]

I dont know if I even want to farm for her anymore

[spiral wolf]

if you get all type res from day one it'll be about equivalent to 200 more def

[orchid hull]

She's already perfect

[spiral wolf]

just farm her again once you see her die

no need

[orchid hull]

She also has 143 speed btw

So...

[spiral wolf]

or well whenever you get side gears from going into relic mines like i'm doing with quantum mines for xueyi then that makes sense to look out for her upgrades

[orchid hull]

The thing that I do want to replace is well... This

Her boots could be better

[spiral wolf]

my fx is 98% progress in substats according to the scorer so lol

[orchid hull]

Where is the scorer btw?

[spiral wolf]

should be pinned somewhere

[orchid hull]

And I'm using HP Rope instead of ER Rope btw

Should be fine ig

[spiral wolf]

yeah same

hp rope is where it makes healing set more impactful

[orchid hull]

Yknow this feels like we're the only two people who owns and builds FX extensively in this server

[spiral wolf]

my teams are usually not lacking sp so I can just press skill when I need ult one turn faster

it's that easy

[orchid hull]

Like... How am I gonna replace this

[spiral wolf]

and in auto-ing situations she wouldn't need ult one turn earlier anyways

that but replace crit rate with def

is how (very hard)

[orchid hull]

You think speed substats grow on trees

[spiral wolf]

as someone with 195 speed hanya, perhaps I do

lmfao

yeah it's hard to replace for sure

[orchid hull]

Doesnt help that both my Healing set rolled into 15% def substats

[spiral wolf]

it even rolled once into atk and it looks great

[silent owl]

plane 2 had 0 cheats, 0 rerolls, 0 beacons

[quasi chasm]

3rd and 4th is tank and healer

[silent owl]

im trying to push cond10 with paths and dices i havent used yet but i think ive already used all the good ones and the remaining combinations just suck

combat dice on high cond without a cheaty high-damage path like remb/nihil is

[orchid hull]

Tsk

I could probably replace the Orb and the Boots

When I want to

[fallow delta]

I wonder why that head isn’t at least S

Its got effect res spd and BE

But yeah I can definitely work on that orb

[quasi chasm]

where is that site

[fallow delta]

Pinned

[quasi chasm]

i thought the website is broken but ig its just my relics lacks break effect

[orchid hull]

Pinned

[quasi chasm]

how is this A

[spiral wolf]

the scorer is pretty dumb with the more nuanced characters that is not just unga damage or unga defensive

[orchid hull]

Yeah I just wanna replace my boots, the rest are fine

[spiral wolf]

it's ok with fu xuan and standard pure crit builds

it messes up rating my kafka and sushang so yeah I kinda limit the scorer to only certain type of charas

[quasi chasm]

whats your kafka's raiting

[orchid hull]

Mine?

[quasi chasm]

i guess both you and peako now

[orchid hull]

That ATK chest is just so pitiful

[quasi chasm]

bruh their scoring is weird

[spiral wolf]

she got better now than before

[orchid hull]

It grades CDAMAGE lmaooo

[silent owl]

critka real

[frosty bane]

With something like this. The crit star is useless

[orchid hull]

You think I can roll SPD three times

[frosty bane]

Just roll better

[orchid hull]

Give me your jades for energy

[spiral wolf]

oh my sushang rated better now, i guess some meta boi happened to watch sushang breaker video and changed her weighting

same weight as cr/cd now

[frosty bane]

[spiral wolf]

went from B to S

mfw my main dropped worse stuff than my supports

[quasi chasm]

so to get the pog relic on kafka it should have atk/spd/cr/cd/ehr/be?

[thick ore]

trash event

[sharp kestrel]

Which website do you guys use for gear scoring there's so 7 of them now

[spiral wolf]

kafka doesn't get too much better past the main stats and half the useful subs so I just didn't bother getting rid of the crit/be stuff

[frosty bane]

Just speed and atk%, flat atk is cope

[orchid hull]

Kafka only wants Spd and Atk% anyway

Very easy to build

No we are not building Critka coffee

[quasi chasm]

im just meme'ing the website lmao

[spiral wolf]

iirc krem has critka, as long as it works

[frosty bane]

Well critka have better support(Bronya) until Mei show up

[spiral wolf]

the actual crit charas have high investment ceiling while kafka is functioning already from main stats but won't get much better from there

[prisma crow]

DUDE

[spiral wolf]

I mostly care about the speed threshold even, nvm atk

[prisma crow]

maybe this is a sign i shouldn't downloaded this game again

they won't give me any elation buff!!

I'm gonna go insane

[frosty bane]

Luck issue

[quasi chasm]

kafka main kinda scold me about that

i have too much spd they said

[prisma crow]

btw just got xueyi my queen what does she need

[frosty bane]

She need everything

[prisma crow]

:poyohodo

[frosty bane]

She run BE rope and atk orb btw

[orchid hull]

Dont treat her BE from damage as a necessity tbh

[quasi chasm]

they told me to sacrifice some spd to atk/atk%

[orchid hull]

She is just the same as any other damage dealer, just build as a Crit DPS

[prisma crow]

nrhd

[orchid hull]

It just makes BE much more value for her

And yes, use BE Rope and ATK Orb for Xueyi

[prisma crow]

i deleted this game because I don't know who to build first now im still having trouble who to build first

ion have any spare relics

[spiral wolf]

one thing to notice, she has low multipliers on moves but super high dmg boost so... even her basic attack can hurt

cuz basic attack still has same multiplier as all other charas lmao

[orchid hull]

Kek

[frosty bane]

Your orb can use a bit of atk% but overall your relic is pretty much perfect, it will be hard to inprove

[orchid hull]

Just focus on traces first, you can just use whatever set you want as long as the mainstat is correct

Worry about relics later

[quasi chasm]

ikr, but whats really bothering me is the ehr
so i prob gonna still farm for hands

i can atleast sacrifice 4 spd

[spiral wolf]

coffee pls you have sig lc she can go as low as 146, is this what they scold you about

but... what you have is already great

[frosty bane]

Min maxing for 1% dmg increases overall

[orchid hull]

Meanwhile mine is still at 139 SPD

[spiral wolf]

it's just situational

[quasi chasm]

ye they said i can even go as low like 140

[spiral wolf]

between more dot dmg and being able to overtake enemies

[frosty bane]

Yeah being able to move before enemy is a huge plus

More speed is never bad if you not sac others stat too much

[spiral wolf]

if they release faster enemies than we already have and they can advance forward themselves and make your dots gone before you can detonate it with slower kafka

then your kafka will also be better in that situation

while also doing just a few percent less damage in other situations

[quasi chasm]

hmm, i might as well follow the person who told me im ready to fight enemies with 180 spd

nvm 190

[spiral wolf]

what's with the obsession over making other dots go before her

[frosty bane]

0 cycle mindset

[orchid hull]

You apply more DoTs before she gets to detonate them ig

[spiral wolf]

wao how much atk you sacrifice for the whole team to allow that

might as well run a 134 team with asta or something

for less effort and very similar effect

[quasi chasm]

i got cheat 3 times

i think in higher conun the game just doesnt want to give you mei in first plane

[heavy bobcat]

prove yourself worthy by beating the first boss

[heavy bobcat]

damn

tuff

[quasi chasm]

i auto

its also the boss that counters

[heavy bobcat]

[quasi chasm]

im making coffee and when i come back its already defeated so cant even alt f4

[silent owl]

went back to cond0 just to clear off the "beat diff 5 on X path" quests
got the ruan mei trick and brrrrrrr

[worn sable]

https://vxtwitter.com/MarinLiekuriva/status/1743164950221352993?t=gRPE2RhdT_B4ARUyTDWeaQ&s=19

[fresh juniper]

if it were me imma take the actual SW back home and headpat non-stop + gaming session + cuddling

[slow raven]

just got Bronya

[heavy bobcat]

congrats

[fresh juniper]

noicee

enjoy the buffs, man. they're the best

[vagrant fog]

umeume????

[formal vector]

chonk

[spiral wolf]

+0 posting, flat def ume ume

[vagrant fog]

not really umeume

[spiral wolf]

if that was crit rate line not def

[vagrant fog]

another umeume

but for who

[quasi chasm]

why is she keep giving me abundance

[orchid hull]

Umeume for SW?

Or a Xueyi with an element other than Quantum

[vagrant fog]

RM dps

[spiral wolf]

for himeko since she has free crit rate at high hp

piece got no crit rate

[vagrant fog]

seems like I will eternally farming phys/break domain for Argenti

[slow raven]

okj my wifi shitter so my earlier message probaboly didn't show up

*went shitter

anyway I was saying that I probably won't do anything with Bronya because I already have a main squad I'm fine with

[vagrant fog]

Bronya will make your main squad better

[quasi chasm]

game gave me abundance so imma pick nihility for enemy

[quasi chasm]

bronya will make your battles faster

[orchid hull]

He wont listen

Dont bother

[slow raven]

I have to make an entire new squad

[vagrant fog]

Bronya is not vibing with agnt ig

uh no need?

just replace someone

[quasi chasm]

do i need to change my pfp too?

[slow raven]

I actually don't know much about Bronya here so can't say the vibes

[slow raven]

aw hell nah

[vagrant fog]

best support

literally top tier support

[orchid hull]

Literally the best support in the game

But I dont think he will listen cause he probably wont vibe with her

[quasi chasm]

literally a support that can be put on any team

[vagrant fog]

but I think Bronya will got same treatment with Luocha

[spiral wolf]

why need turn advance and huge hypercarry boost when you can just have vibe in the team instead

[quasi chasm]

angt too pro to need bronya

[orchid hull]

I dunno what I would do if I dont have Bronya

Her + JL is a match made in heaven

[quasi chasm]

84

i think the reason why mei giving abundance is its the least blessing?

some blessing has like 21 or like that remembrance 24

[silent owl]

all have the same number of blessings, but the count also includes reso
eru has 2 less because they dont have swarm interlace

[quasi chasm]

ah ye the reso formation

if thats the case then mei just likes to give me abundance

[peak agate]

These boots make me sad

Yes I know main stat speed but Still haven’t found that kind of piece yet

[astral raptor]

guess this is okay-ish for kafka?

[carmine burrow]

not bad

you can jump to 165 speed via Asta

[astral raptor]

with ruan mei, she just hit 160 spd

i dont use asta >.>

[carmine burrow]

don't think RM buff is enough to push it to 165

yeah, I figure it will only bump to 160

[silent owl]

Just gotta max your ult, dot characters have better trace scaling than crit characters

[astral raptor]

why u want 165 speed?

[carmine burrow]

2nd glamoth

[astral raptor]

160 is enough for 2nd glamoth

[carmine burrow]

wait, was it 160? I thought it is 165

[astral raptor]

its always been 160...

[gilded pine]

ye 160

160.1 for another 0 cycle turn

[carmine burrow]

what set did I think for 165

[gilded pine]

there is none

[astral raptor]

145 for the break effect one?

lol

u confusing urself

[carmine burrow]

ohh I remember now

the Bronya tech LOL

[gilded pine]

is ruan mei always gonna give me abundance

[heavy bobcat]

bronya literally ananlee of hsr

and you love anlee

thus you should build her

[slow raven]

But my main felt so perfect tho

I have to use another slot for it

[sharp kestrel]

Definitely didn't use the ruan mei feature

https://tenor.com/view/haya-lie-gif-25351185

[carmine burrow]

I am on conundrum 8 with 15 levels and 0 techniques

1 hp as well

doomed is I would say

[sharp kestrel]

well time to feel what bullying is

[carmine burrow]

I got 1 turned

[sharp kestrel]

time to try no conundrum ruan mei feature

that's a two?!

[heavy bobcat]

con8 clear lesgo

[vagrant fog]

pro

[heavy bobcat]

i keep getting ruan mei part2 before part1

so unfortunate

[peak agate]

What’s the difference

[heavy bobcat]

part1 is the get all blessings of a path and 2000 frags

[safe oriole]

Part 2 enhances all blessings part 1 gives the whole blessing set

[heavy bobcat]

yeah

so if you get part2 first all the blessings you get from part1 wont be upgraded

[peak agate]

I see

[heavy bobcat]

ideal circumstances is getting part1 and then part2 and also having the curio that buffs your damage with yuor frags

[peak agate]

Not gonna lie ideal set ups be damned. Considering my experience with Simulated universe I ain’t getting all three

One of my most favorite build is just fighting spirit and critical stacks

Only happened like twice

[silent owl]

cond 10 clear, dest path with ruan mei giving and upgrading dest blessings
yo-yo health during the boss battles

[tame flint]

[quasi chasm]

ngl im liking the abundance mei
its giving me more successful runs

[tame flint]

I autoed conundrum 4 with hypercarry blade

Abundance run

[quasi chasm]

the occurrence mei i mean thats giving abundance

[tame flint]

[quasi chasm]

i might do that too

[tame flint]

Blade, mei, bronya, sustain

[quasi chasm]

iirc propa has abundance formation

[tame flint]

I only have lynx

Would be a million times easier with fx

[quasi chasm]

if i got propa + all abundance itll be

[tame flint]

[quasi chasm]

whats your blade btw

[tame flint]

Chad

[quasi chasm]

is he like e1s0 or e0s1

[tame flint]

E0s1

Wait I'll dm you his stats later

I dont have him on display

[quasi chasm]

oof i wonder if vow can do the same

ye propa has indeed abundance

imma try it rn

[peak agate]

Considering everything I’m kinda surprised that somehow removing Fu Xuan to team B got me 1 more clear in Moc

[cedar fog]

Holy shit new SU diff V is impossible for me

[peak agate]

I uh didn’t expect Bronya, and especially Pela to survive

Even with a level 50 Bailu healing

[peak agate]

Keep trying you gotta believe

Or you need slightly better gear one of the two

[cedar fog]

Definitely need better gears

[rigid bison]

QQ + propagation no brain needed

[cedar fog]

But I'm too casual about it

[rigid bison]

[tame flint]

[peak agate]

Same

[carmine burrow]

take your time. content is permanent

[peak agate]

Very true

[cedar fog]

Yep yep

[silent owl]

well lv 70-80 and traces definitely because you need the base stats, but i think blessings are so dominant that you could probably sneak past with worse relics

[peak agate]

Just do as much as you can and you’ll get the stellar Jade you want

[cedar fog]

Imma just try to beat it once or twice a week

[peak agate]

It does require some luck

But it’s very doable if you just fill out what your struggling with

[silent owl]

get as many offpath damage reduction (usually 1 or 2 star) and DEF% (usually 1 star) blessings as you can, they make a huge difference

[cedar fog]

Is nihility without kafka even possible?

[carmine burrow]

yes

[peak agate]

It is

[carmine burrow]

kafka just makes it easier

[cedar fog]

[peak agate]

Let me tell you how possible it is

[tame flint]

@quasi chasm
Can still get better but, his growth is on hold rn

He's already good enough anyway

[peak agate]

I used Jingliu, Silver wolf, Fu and Bronya

[quasi chasm]

wait imma enka mine too

[peak agate]

No other Dot and it helped tremendously

[tame flint]

Ogey

[peak agate]

So don’t be afraid to try out something

[silent owl]

people have done solo fu xuan with nihility, the reso deals the damage and fu xuan just sits there not dying

[peak agate]

How long does it take

[silent owl]

not saying you should try that but point is nihil reso does a solid amount of damge by itself

it was a 18 min vid of the plane 3 boss iirc

[cedar fog]

The first plane must be hell

[peak agate]

Well I guess I can just clear with normal team and the use Fu at the end by herself but fuck that

[carmine burrow]

what they usually do is full team up until last boss

they just remove teammates at the end

[quasi chasm]

this mine

[tame flint]

Hmmm

[cedar fog]

Aahh.. Naruhodo

[tame flint]

Too low hp

[quasi chasm]

too low everything

[tame flint]

My blade's speed is okay now because of rm buff

Back then though still missing 7 spd

[quasi chasm]

i need more hp and cdmg

wait does his lc have cdmg

[tame flint]

Crate

And hp

[quasi chasm]

oh~ that can make him focus more on cdmg

[quasi chasm]

ig my build is kinda fine
so hard to get 55% crate

[tame flint]

His traces should provide crate

Are you missing any

[quasi chasm]

no hes fully maxed

[tame flint]

🤝

[quasi chasm]

ig the hands that i have needs some improvement

body too

boots too

[quasi chasm]

can she show again if i ignore or no?

i got part 2 first

its not 2x

[silent owl]

well not accepting doesnt count as having seen one of the 17, so it could be the same thing here and you could try

[quasi chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-cup-shaking-gif-15990380

omg the double mei is real

it gave me hunt

[carmine burrow]

so is your experiment a success?

[quasi chasm]

i wanted abundance

[quasi chasm]

ye looks like you can ignore it

[carmine burrow]

ayt guess I do that next time

[quasi chasm]

i was having fun i dint notice my disruption level

[naive atlas]

pro

[quasi chasm]

[naive atlas]

pro

[quasi chasm]

i lost

thats what i get tho

disruption 15 + conun 10
did i really think i can finish it on non remem/nihili run

[rose elbow]

what is your nihility team? I'm on conun 4 and my fu is struggling

I usually have to run countdown and bring along bailu

[quasi chasm]

kafka/kafka cone, mei/memories cone, luocha/fofo cone, fire mc/gepard cone

i finish gears with that same team til conun 12

[rose elbow]

oh, so gui and sampo aren't necessary for that team
that would solve my problem with gui taking 80% of her health against argenti

But I don't have mei or luocha, but this gives me some ideas

[quasi chasm]

ye all you need is IX to do its thing

[rose elbow]

I guess you start with a different team and transition?
the bugs seem like they could mess you up in the first stage

[quasi chasm]

no same team start to finish

[naive atlas]

You gain fixed resonance energy per action you take right?

[rose elbow]

ye, plus dots for IX iirc

[quasi chasm]

see just the same team start to finish

[rose elbow]

pro

[quasi chasm]

i tried to auto and you really cant auto conun 10+

unless you got abundance from mei

[safe oriole]

Auto huohuo is just silly

She let's her auto heal stacks die

Anyways 1 last dice before I bury GaG

But these frags tho

[quasi chasm]

dont get baited

you can get that in 1 cavern run

the 100 one tho i recommend

[rigid current]

how is difficulty 3 kicking my ass

knowledge die also seems kind of shit

[rose elbow]

how often do you enter trotter/occurrence domains
I think you should probably be getting blessings every single warp

also, nihility is OP

[tame flint]

Cute polka charm on the bottom left

[naive atlas]

It's the Polka censor

[solar dock]

coffee is literally polka

sorry I broke the rules I gotta go to jail now

[flint trail]

[ocean plover]

Is it also 90 pity with the chances going up after 70 pulls?

Want more 5 stars. Especially Bronya, she's pretty

[naive atlas]

Yes for hard pity

90 for characters and 80 for light cones but light cones are 75/25 and split into two banners

Standard I think is just always 90

[silent owl]

It starts going up after 75, 50% at 83-ish

[vagrant fog]

why

[carmine burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-balanced-gif-3226445978144001245

[tough condor]

Doing nihility path gone wrong at c5

All my unit become squishy af they dying before enemy does

[vagrant fog]

also why I put ATK boots on my Argenti if he using Galmoth planar set

[peak agate]

I don’t even think that would help

[vagrant fog]

oh Argenti kinda nice in GaG

but really need Hanya for trigger Argen Galmoth effect

[spiral wolf]

can your hanya keep full buff uptime yet

[vagrant fog]

on SU yes, on normal fight

[spiral wolf]

like err penacony + nice cogs s5 stuff and press ult during argenti turn
that shit is quite wao

[vagrant fog]

at least is kinda fun against argenti

my Argen just spamming ult non stop and clear under 6x times ult (2 ult for each phase)

[spiral wolf]

non haver but I can imagine

mf has 2 ult bars and whatever erudition path blessings do

[vagrant fog]

disgustang

[spiral wolf]

but ye that usual cog abuse strat and buff extension tech on carry's turn work on hanya too

[vagrant fog]

without the Hanya buff, my Argen SPD still around 120

[spiral wolf]

even better if memories of the past, break effect hanya

[vagrant fog]

with Hanya, 165

memories for hanya

[spiral wolf]

i mean it's just cogs with break effect

use if s5 of course

but anyways, she'll keep the energy and also bleed hard

[vagrant fog]

ah, no wonder my Hanya HP is so low

lvl 40 LC

and its cogs

S3 memories vs S5 cogs?

[spiral wolf]

try memories first how many turn to ult

[vagrant fog]

not sure if the BE can cover the 2 more energy

oh this also still not unlocked yet

[spiral wolf]

i dont remember the energy threshold so but ye with the way you're using her your priority is turns to ult

I play break effect hanya cuz mine has so much speed she can lap team and the ult just kinda lines up with the slow speed carry

still 2 pc penacony s3 memories but BE rope

[vagrant fog]

daym

oh I am using ERR for her

[peak agate]

[spiral wolf]

pretty funny when she breaks 50k + 50k from ruan mei that's not insignificant dps

[peak agate]

You know what’s the saddest part

You don’t even have to go for break effect

If you build her like any other dps she also deals damage

Like why do break effect and dps build work so well for Henya

[spiral wolf]

that goes for even the most noodle arm multiplier characters

[peak agate]

Not 140k . Like gosh damn

Or was it lower

Can’t remember but her damage was insane from what I predicted

She has the multipliers it’s just getting her to it

But yeah she deal a bit more then others however the real chose you gotta make

Do you want to go brrrrrr

Or do you want to punch real hard

Or I guess the third option Falcon punch build

[vagrant fog]

[spiral wolf]

the punch real hard is way less team damage

[peak agate]

Not always but hear me out she makes up the other half

[vagrant fog]

nop

[peak agate]

But all seriousness

[vagrant fog]

still nop

[spiral wolf]

:OgaWhatAreYouTalkingAbout:

[peak agate]

Best way to build her is putting as much speed as you can and if you got the room for it you can do break effect build or if you are just good at the game be able to have high speed and dps stat

[vagrant fog]

you should stop smoking dude

[peak agate]

It’s not my fault she can deal damage

[spiral wolf]

i'm not going to babble about the wiggle room you have left on your support to allow self dps again like fu xuan

this is even worse

[vagrant fog]

but its spark's take

so I just

[heavy bobcat]

i never do dps supports. save me the sanity trying to farm for dps stats

[peak agate]

You literally have 5 opened slots

One main Hp is more then enough to survive

[spiral wolf]

investing in speed and break effect just works while not competing in gears with others

while still providing pro level support

imagine having 134 speed 70/140 crit hanya that gives you what, 27 speed on ult

[peak agate]

Did you not read this

[spiral wolf]

[peak agate]

It’s pretty obvious where the sarcasm starts

[spiral wolf]

there's barely room left to consider it effective

[peak agate]

We call it skill issue . But no seriously you can only pick one or the other

It’ll be funny to have high speed and dps stat

But uhhhh

I farmed enough of that from E7

So easiest thing to do is basically break effect and if you want you can work from there

[spiral wolf]

seriously the 'room' for break effect build is literally just break rope and lc with break effect that gets to about 100 which is enough for occasional jumpscare support character break/bleed damage

[carmine burrow]

yeah but peako

[spiral wolf]

a hanya with 200 speed can't even buff as much speed as asta ult

[carmine burrow]

I want my 200 spd 200% BE 100% cr 300% cdmg dps Fu Xuan

[spiral wolf]

just keep that in mind, she needs allll the speed

[peak agate]

That’s not feasible

[carmine burrow]

it will be feasible if you stop pinging

[vagrant fog]

ATK only, no HP

[peak agate]

Not gonna lie 200 is a bit yikes. If 200 isn’t gonna equate to Asta ult then you make the call of what speed tier you want. For me I wouldn’t mind 170 with some break effect. If you want to surpass Asta ult you go all the way.

[peak agate]

Seriously cry about it. Dude

[spiral wolf]

look I know my hanya is an unrelatable case / build

a lot of people dont drop speed substats

[peak agate]

No I understand it

[spiral wolf]

that's why I went on about ERR option

[peak agate]

It’s just there’s multiple ways to play her you know

[spiral wolf]

with hanya's base speed I think most people will have trouble getting her past ~184

[peak agate]

Very much so

[peak agate]

Quick question if you did main stat speed and all substats landed 10 on speed what’s the total

[carmine burrow]

yeah, coz I already told you before to lay it off but you seem obssessed to it

[peak agate]

Well sorry I don’t remove ping half the time because sometimes I just send too quickly

[spiral wolf]

base speed + speed traces = 119
around 7 spd from 2pc speed
25 from spd boot
50 from 5 other pieces with 10 each
119 + 82 = 201 on the dot

[peak agate]

Oooooof

Yeah no fuck that

[spiral wolf]

[peak agate]

People really recommend that shit

[spiral wolf]

she gets +20% speed to herself every time she skills on e2 so that's also an option but I dont have it

[peak agate]

Time to bust out the wallet

[spiral wolf]

around 180 speed is already decent for the eventual e2

[peak agate]

That seems more feasible then 200

[spiral wolf]

I have 195 and people go wtf op but really it doesn't increase number of actions hanya takes in moc

what it does is just one or two more action on the carry she buffs

[peak agate]

Like from what I understand you need like 210 to lap right

[spiral wolf]

201 to do 3 actions on first cycle

[peak agate]

But do you get to lap enemies or no?

[spiral wolf]

you always lap with higher speed than enemies it's a matter of when and whether the fight ends before that

[peak agate]

Even if it’s 1 speed higher?

[spiral wolf]

well yeah but it'd take like hundreds of turns for 1 lap

[peak agate]

Oh ok got it

[spiral wolf]

it's just relative speed

[peak agate]

Then yeah I won’t lie giving up 1 action in a cycle isn’t the worst

[carmine burrow]

wtf we have theory of relativity in HSR now

[peak agate]

If it’s made up by something that benefits the team or she does something to make up for it

[spiral wolf]

she really doesn't get any more actions past like 164 speed assuming you finish things in 5 cycles, it's purely for scaling the speed buff

[peak agate]

That’s hilarious

[spiral wolf]

which gives one more action on the carry

oh yeah but since mine is 195 she is over 201 with ruan mei

so that actually benefits her

[ornate bronze]

Somehow Bronya's E1 Talent kept proccing

[peak agate]

There we go we found the lost speed

[ornate bronze]

Anyways MoC 11 Completed

[spiral wolf]

pro

[ornate bronze]

Finally MoC 12 has some piece

[vagrant fog]

tomorrow is the last day

[ornate bronze]

Last day?

[peak agate]

For Moc

[ornate bronze]

I thought it's 29 days

[spiral wolf]

i heard some people 3 star moc 12 but struggle with 11

[peak agate]

Yeah I can’t raise Xueyi that fast

[ornate bronze]

My Bronya was having a great time

[spiral wolf]

this moc is just element matchup issue

[ornate bronze]

[spiral wolf]

[vagrant fog]

for you to finish Moc or else

[ornate bronze]

[peak agate]

For me it’s been Xueyi relics issue

[ornate bronze]

Ok I'll brb

[vagrant fog]

trying conun 6

[peak agate]

I would get break effect but no offense

[vagrant fog]

I already miss 30 fragment for reroll

[ornate bronze]

Update

I still haven't done swarm or gog yet

[peak agate]

Get crit rate and only get defense stats. Get speed but flat stats all around

[vagrant fog]

its fine

its permanent event

[spiral wolf]

you can't plow through shit that easily even with great relics unless it's the meta comp

[ornate bronze]

Crazy how I like playing MoC but other events I became rather lazy

[spiral wolf]

i think they beefed up mob's HP past the level scaling to force us to use the moc buff or something

they did it before with the moc that had SU remembrance buff thing and qingque shined

[vagrant fog]

because you are lazy ass mf

[ornate bronze]

[peak agate]

The funny thing is I think I have the tools necessary to probably pass 10 but the relics are not good enough for some units

[ornate bronze]

Maybe this comp could work

[spiral wolf]

moc 11 and 12 almost feels like a puzzle game of counting the break bars to me

[vagrant fog]

It looks doable

[ornate bronze]

DPS Welt

[peak agate]

I hate break bar sometimes

[ornate bronze]

Or DPS Blade

[spiral wolf]

break shit and clear critter mobs, pure damage on boss barely mattered, only physical break did something decent

[peak agate]

Nah Sustain blade

[ornate bronze]

My Welt and Blade almost has the same ratio

[peak agate]

Damage that scales off Hp baby

[ornate bronze]

Welt has 51% CR and 177% CD
While Blade Had 60% CR and 173% CD

Brain too much working

[peak agate]

You know I think I need sleep

[spiral wolf]

[ornate bronze]

Bad part is that my Welt LC doesn't have any good ones

[peak agate]

I saw welt and I thought it said 51% crit rate with 121% crit dmg

[peak agate]

I can give you the S1 I have

[ornate bronze]

Or perhaps

[vagrant fog]

Remember guys, blade doesn't start fights, he ends them.

and he is glass cannon

[ornate bronze]

U know what kazma

After u said that

I'm going to build my blade attack

[peak agate]

That’s not

[vagrant fog]

based

[peak agate]

You are supposed to have low Hp and High Atk

Otherwise you are not doing Mojo right

[spiral wolf]

don't forget to beef up your luocha

he's one of the best combatant in the game

[peak agate]

6k attack

[vagrant fog]

I mean

[spiral wolf]

|| according to watchmojo ||

[ornate bronze]

And done

[vagrant fog]

you didnt see those DPS Luocha and FX that I shared few days ago?

[peak agate]

Perfection

[vagrant fog]

1 mil FX ult damage

[ornate bronze]

Wait why do they almost have the same ratio

[peak agate]

That looks like a E6 Fu Xuan

[peak agate]

Wait wtf

[ornate bronze]

Spark

don't worry about it

[peak agate]

Hold maybe no it can’t be right

Maybe Mojo was cooking

I’m worrying

[spiral wolf]

why watchmojo when we can watchspark cook

[peak agate]

The main difference it works

My insanity has success

[vagrant fog]

true

they also show FX DPS is viable

E0 with 1 mil damage

[peak agate]

[peak agate]

Ain’t no way

[vagrant fog]

just watch it

[peak agate]

Like I expect 40k

At E0

[vagrant fog]

I forgot its 1 mil or 10 mil

[peak agate]

Send the link

I need to see

[spiral wolf]

was it that private server one who knows what they did to other things than just eidolons

[peak agate]

That would make sense

[vagrant fog]

welp

conun 6 2nd plane

against normal mobs -> argen full charge ult -> no one died

[peak agate]

Bruh I just a video 244k with Fu Xuan ult

[vagrant fog]

oh its 7 mil

so yeah its possible

[peak agate]

By the way I’ve been wondering do you use ER rope for argenti?

[vagrant fog]

nope

ATK

[peak agate]

out of any character he was the one I wouldn’t expect that

[worn sable]

dam ... i try the 2 robot again and they are no joke

at least they also hate sampo and only atk him

[rigid current]

Energy issues can alleviated by hyper carry team

[peak agate]

I would attack him two

[worn sable]

https://vxtwitter.com/DailyHI3Chibi/status/1743464247458447840

[spiral wolf]

perfection

[nocturne tartan]

yeah I think sushang with speed boots is overkill, time to farm atk boots

[quasi chasm]

i think i made a mistake, its been 6 mins

i was such a good run

[vagrant fog]

nah

she can solo them

[quasi chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-angry-pissed-off-tantrum-cute-gif-15858067

nha, inb4 she got 1 shot by the bonk

the deer has 17+ increase dmg

[vagrant fog]

tsk tsk tsk

because u manual it

if its auto, she will win, trust

you didnt see her ult animation?

[tough condor]

You using hunt better using remem or preserve

[quasi chasm]

i press auto

[quasi chasm]

between kafka with nihility reso or deer with abundance
who would you pick

[tough condor]

F

[tame flint]

💀
https://youtu.be/LZx_D2ipY7k?si=WQEmUvlrgMDTNGGx

New illegal knowledge just dropped

[quasi chasm]

can it work in any dice?

[tame flint]

?

I think it's fixed on the one showed in the video

Why would you want to change it anyway

[quasi chasm]

sadge i thought the curio is the one thats important

[tame flint]

@quasi chasm

They come in hand in hand tho

[carmine burrow]

Coffee understanding the video challenge : impossible

[tame flint]

Read the effect of the die

Like whatever youre gonna come up with wont be as good

[quasi chasm]

ye im skipping ahead again

[tame flint]

??????????????????????????

Bro turned simulated universe to a tycoon simulator

[worn sable]

[vagrant fog]

the reroll part is pien

[quasi chasm]

how many rerols are you now kazma