Honkai: Star Rail (Old)

[frosty bane]

Smh they steal RM budget

[thick ore]

also am not gonna spoiler this next one

cause it was already obvious with the dev diary they sent for 2.0

dont prefarm for trace mats for new chars

there are new ones

sadly

[ornate bronze]

^

[thick ore]

and looking at the leaks

[rigid bison]

bruh

[frosty bane]

Nooooooooooo

[thick ore]

its hella true

[ornate bronze]

Honestly

This is much better

But like so bad

[frosty bane]

Can’t pre farm trace mats

[vagrant fog]

2.0 is BS and Sparkle?

[frosty bane]

It’s doom

[thick ore]

yes

[ornate bronze]

Si

[pearl locust]

most of rm's animation budget went to her trailer

[ornate bronze]

Do we know who's on the side banner?

[thick ore]

no

[vagrant fog]

Oh why we cant pre farm?

[frosty bane]

2 fk week for max 1 character

[ornate bronze]

Ok

[thick ore]

usually those are harder to predict than the reruns

[ornate bronze]

I'm expecting JL or DHIL

Or both

[thick ore]

but what i do know tbh

[wooden harness]

Hoyo it's not too late to give 20 free pulls for Christmas and New Year

[thick ore]

is one of the banners will this guy

|| https://streamable.com/2sc1yg ||

[ornate bronze]

Nah he's male

Rejected

[orchid hull]

MHY WHYYY
Mats for BS

[ornate bronze]

Lmaooo

[vagrant fog]

?

[wooden harness]

Holy shit

[thick ore]

[vagrant fog]

U have enough

[tame flint]

Pretty new traces

[frosty bane]

It’s doom

[spiral wolf]

backreading

[orchid hull]

Those traces mats

[ornate bronze]

But the ascension tho

[orchid hull]

Are fking new

[vagrant fog]

Oh mats for bs

[spiral wolf]

why cant I hold all my jades

[ornate bronze]

Is still grindable

[spiral wolf]

[vagrant fog]

Peako

Is the sign

Its the sign

[ornate bronze]

Of powercreep

[spiral wolf]

i'll still get runa

[frosty bane]

Wait they gonna release sparkle mats when BS come right ?, I’m saved

[vagrant fog]

[wooden harness]

My 31k jades are gonna fucking burn

[kind valve]

our next update already penacony right>

[spiral wolf]

and then swan so i can play kafka again

[ornate bronze]

I got like alot of money from christmas

[spiral wolf]

gotta rely on more jades from patch

[ornate bronze]

Then I remembered

I bought a nendoroid

So I'm not gonna spend anything this patch

[rigid bison]

No

[vagrant fog]

Just reminder guys, gacha gamrs are just bunch of pixels

[rigid bison]

After the next update

[fallow delta]

Why

[vagrant fog]

[fallow delta]

It’s making me want to skip rm

[kind valve]

ah alright , slacc farm

[fallow delta]

But i wont

[ornate bronze]

Ate

[fallow delta]

I will preserve

[ornate bronze]

I see

[wooden harness]

Good news is that Ratio is free so most of us would just spend for RM or not spend at all

[orchid hull]

I wont spend a dime

[fallow delta]

I will skip black swan

[vagrant fog]

But you already swipe, salt

[fallow delta]

Although it’s a shame cuz her animation are great

[orchid hull]

All the way for BS E1S1

[vagrant fog]

Smh

[quasi chasm]

yes and i like it

[orchid hull]

Well this patch you dumdum

[spiral tendon]

didnt expect to keep my f2p status for this long

[spiral wolf]

i think my kafka will need an ERR rope now

[wooden harness]

||What part of Black Swan's kit applies dot?||

[fallow delta]

Need sparkle to make imbibitor great again

[rigid bison]

So I have 71 pity with a guaranteed and 31 pull. Would I be able to save for Hanabi and her lc if I roll for RM? If not I might make HErta wait for her gf till her rerun

[ornate bronze]

The only time that I have ever spent on the game

[fallow delta]

What hanabi lc do

[ornate bronze]

Was from BP Kafka PFP was a thing

[fallow delta]

Pray tell

[wooden harness]

Is Acheron 2.1

[ornate bronze]

||it boost Crit rate and Crit dmg in her ult and more crit dmg to her||

[frosty bane]

You maybe can If you not lost 75/25 for her cone

[wooden harness]

does anyone know

[ornate bronze]

No

[orchid hull]

Uhhh the Sacrament thing

[fallow delta]

Huh

[orchid hull]

Its like in everything she does

[quasi chasm]

why his posture so manly but the face is so cute i want to kiss him in the cheek

[fallow delta]

Does she deal dmg

[vagrant fog]

Coffee ayo

[spiral wolf]

trying to figure out if I can get by by skipping lcs for 2.0 charas and grab the new moc lcs assuming I get e0s1 runa

[fallow delta]

????

[spiral wolf]

probably will be fine

[fallow delta]

What

[tame flint]

What

[vagrant fog]

Free 64 cdmg huff

[wooden harness]

Bronya.....

[kind valve]

for my asta carry

[frosty bane]

She’s Bronya 2.0, her buff is base on her stat

[ornate bronze]

Coffee?

[quasi chasm]

wot, he seem to be tired and need some hug

[fallow delta]

That’s so stupid

[spiral wolf]

crit hanya let's go

[ornate bronze]

U see coffee

[vagrant fog]

[fallow delta]

Ughh I cant pull lc and char at the same time

[ornate bronze]

U said kiss him in the cheeks

[quasi chasm]

yes also that

[wooden harness]

How much pulls can we get from 1.6

[ornate bronze]

Zayden chill

[tame flint]

100+

[frosty bane]

100+ for f2p

[thick ore]

well think of it like this

|| you need 234 crit damage on sparkles to give someone 100% crit damage ||

and that LC helps

[ornate bronze]

We're getting free 10 pulls anyway

[thick ore]

[ornate bronze]

Shinjo

|| does her traces gives crit dmg||

[wooden harness]

Ok I have 200 pulls + 40 from starlight shop

then free 10 pull

[quasi chasm]

is something wrong with it krem

[wooden harness]

doable

[ornate bronze]

||is the same scaling as bronya||

[vagrant fog]

Man is ready

[fallow delta]

Im waiting for that one youtube video

[spiral wolf]

sampo bench on the horizon

[ornate bronze]

"cute I want to kiss him in the cheek"

[fallow delta]

sparkle vs bronya

[thick ore]

@ornate bronze

[ornate bronze]

Sampo mains in shambles

[thick ore]

sparkles overall is better sadly

well

not for dot teams

[ornate bronze]

Is it the same scaling as bronya shinjo?

[fallow delta]

[thick ore]

but even bronya doesnt do that

[ornate bronze]

If it is

[spiral wolf]

peep that get swan probably gonna rework sampo into BE if they're not benching, otherwise yeah

[ornate bronze]

I already have 200% CD on her with 160 speed already

[rigid bison]

From one said he got punched by a better Wind nihility, from the other he got kicked by a better masked fool chara. 2 Ls from a single patch

[fallow delta]

I wonder if this will push imbibitor to be better than jingliu

[thick ore]

no

[ornate bronze]

No

[thick ore]

cause sparkles buffs jingliu too

[fallow delta]

Aww

[ornate bronze]

[fallow delta]

But it’s much better on lunae no

[ornate bronze]

Remember she can also use quantumn

Meaning

[fallow delta]

I dont have jingliu lc

[ornate bronze]

I mean quantum set btw

[quasi chasm]

[vagrant fog]

I should put quantum set on my IL

[ornate bronze]

If

[fallow delta]

But

[ornate bronze]

Ur planning to use sparkles with IL

[fallow delta]

Sparkle talent

[ornate bronze]

Doesn't matter

Yes it's quite sad that IL cannot get the talent

[quasi chasm]

you still gonna use debuffer on him so much better to use 4p imag

[fallow delta]

Jingliu is sp efficient too

[spiral wolf]

ruan + kafka(ERR) + bswan...
ruan mei's turn delay takes less time than a full turn so technically dots are also ticking faster?

[thick ore]

tbh

[ornate bronze]

||Wait sparkles has more CD in traces more than bronya||

[quasi chasm]

ig maybe if youre using sw for that quant debuff il can use it?

[wooden harness]

If I lose 50/50 then I'll have to spend 110 pulls then if I pull for RM LC assuming I hit soft pity then 70 so that'll be 20 pulls left + 50/60 from starlight then if we're getting 100+ pulls from 1.6 then I might have 140 pulls by the time 2.0 comes out and if we're getting more pulls from 2.0 then I might be back to 200

[ornate bronze]

[thick ore]

wait out on black swans gameplay peako

[ornate bronze]

Yeah

[vagrant fog]

Math

[ornate bronze]

We need to check the numbers

[spiral wolf]

ye i know

[thick ore]

out of all the chars, she's the most confusing atm imo

[spiral wolf]

tho i think i got the general theme

[ornate bronze]

With like broken skills and mechanics

[thick ore]

cause if i read her kit right, you need 3 different dots to get her to the fullest

[fallow delta]

Need gameplay

[wooden harness]

If I'm lucky then I might stay on 200 when 2.0 comes out

[ornate bronze]

Does she count as one also?

So badically

Sustain/3 DoT members?

[thick ore]

thats what am trying to wait on krem

[gilded pine]

doesn't she apply like all dots with her ult or something

[thick ore]

idk if hers is considered wind dot

[fallow delta]

Im skipping lc

[ornate bronze]

She is nihility

[spiral wolf]

does it have to be 3 different element dots or 3 of anything is fine

[ornate bronze]

But the most confusing part is her card mechanic

[spiral wolf]

cuz bs + kafka sig gonna be already 3 dots

[ornate bronze]

Mhm

[wooden harness]

If I skipped RM LC then maybe I can pull for both Black Swan and Hanabi

[ornate bronze]

Zayden

Do u have memories

[spiral wolf]

if you have good memories you could skip

[quasi chasm]

ye kafka sig considers a dot so def the card will be a dot too

[ornate bronze]

Or S5 Cogs

[wooden harness]

I have s1 memories

[ornate bronze]

Use cogs if u have energy issue

Use Memories if u wanna balance out ur character stats

Since Memories gives extra break effect

The only bad thing is,u have less uptime to ur ult

[wooden harness]

Idk RM LC looks good

[timber wyvern]

Wow these animations, but priorities

[ornate bronze]

U asked if u shouldn't summon for RM LC

[quasi chasm]

its op

[spiral wolf]

if you do memories you can probably afford penacony/vonwacq set with ERR

[ornate bronze]

[quasi chasm]

but right now theres like 4 waifu coming so i suggest not to pull on cone

[wooden harness]

I didn't asked

I just thought

[quasi chasm]

nc dont pull for cone, unless simp

[spiral wolf]

got memories on hanya and i might use ruan mei and hanya at the same time so I'm attempting ruan mei sig

[fallow delta]

That’s the only reason I’m not pulling for lc

[wooden harness]

Ok but if Acheron really is 2.1

I'll pull for only one in 2.0

[quasi chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/hololive-handshake-meme-hakui-koyori-yuzuki-choco-coyote-gif-26175892

[ornate bronze]

U either take risk

[spiral wolf]

i would just use memories otherwise, considering the future banners

[ornate bronze]

My man

[tame flint]

After getting mei

I'll do 30 pulls on her lc

[gilded pine]

gotta save up more jades for sparkle

if i win the 50/50 i should be able to get her lc

[wooden harness]

What if

I got all of them

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[ornate bronze]

Swipe card

[gilded pine]

just pull out the credit card

[wooden harness]

No

Never

[gilded pine]

guaranteed

[ornate bronze]

Zayden be like :

https://tenor.com/view/jogoat-gif-11996953865648686576

[wooden harness]

I mean

they gonna show 2.1 chars in a month

I can still think before I pull in 2.0

[ornate bronze]

U can either wait

Until the last day

[vagrant fog]

Why its looks like burning amongus

[tame flint]

Lets add this to further make everyone anxious

||Yo, harmony mc doko||

[vagrant fog]

Aventurine ez skip

[thick ore]

uhhh

hmmm

should i post this?

[kind valve]

hmm maybe ill pull kallen too too many patch not pulling

[tame flint]

We don't know shinjo

[kind valve]

post what

[tame flint]

[timber wyvern]

Dudes literally named ||sunday||

[spiral wolf]

[kind valve]

if its something ruelbreaking then no

[timber wyvern]

[thick ore]

|| 2.0 gives 20 pulls via login ||

[quasi chasm]

gonna pull for them

[vagrant fog]

Wait

Isnt screwllum is 5*?

[tame flint]

Whaaaaaaa

Aint no way, it doubled

[wooden harness]

||Robin, Hua and Sakura ||

[spiral wolf]

well we already got a March 7th

[tame flint]

Sheeeesh

[kind valve]

wait that screwlum become 4 star there

[wooden harness]

LOOK

IT'S DOABLE

[kind valve]

smh bad dev

[vagrant fog]

Bad leakers

[quasi chasm]

any elaboration why we getting that much

[thick ore]

its 2.0

big patch

new world

[quasi chasm]

[thick ore]

basically

[kind valve]

you mean 9 gigs update we got tomorrow isnt big

so how big is big patch? 30 gb?

[gilded pine]

i guess

[timber wyvern]

red = probably hard pity
yellow = pull if funds permit
anyone else = most likely skip

[thick ore]

thats what am afraid of

considering theyre putting a new world basically

[tame flint]

Im gonna have to delete some photos

And songs

[kind valve]

time to delete hsr from my phone

[gilded pine]

save more space

[ornate bronze]

Fuck you kazma

[tame flint]

[vagrant fog]

Bro

You posted it urself

[fallow delta]

Why they have to give nihility good animation

I have no intention on going the nihility path

[quasi chasm]

those moments where updating the game needs more space than installing it fresh

[thick ore]

so uhh

it might actually be around 30gb

basing on this

[gilded pine]

just like baldur's gate 3

[tame flint]

Stop

[timber wyvern]

Spoilers

[thick ore]

[tame flint]

No

[fallow delta]

Cant wait for 100gb

[vagrant fog]

Bro spoilers

[kind valve]

byebye hsr it was nice knowing yo

[gilded pine]

stealing all the extra space i have on my phone

[vagrant fog]

Smh mishi

Just delete other gacha games

[kind valve]

im still using 64gb phone

[tame flint]

[kind valve]

30 gb mean it took half of my storgae lol

[vagrant fog]

You didnt see those BS ult animation?

Its should be 1 gb alone

[kind valve]

yeah its BullShit

[vagrant fog]

For the animation

[timber wyvern]

Nooo if mishi deletes BA who will give us homework now

[spiral wolf]

i gotta say

BS has the most yugioh-looking ass kit so far

[worn sable]

1 day, we will fully reach that yugioh tier

[spiral wolf]

counting, and conditional

we're almost there

[vagrant fog]

Wtf 116 pulls

[spiral wolf]

eos game

[vagrant fog]

Deadge

[gilded pine]

eventually we'll reach psct levels for our star rail characters

[timber wyvern]

Daily training gives that much jade??

[gilded pine]

yes

[fallow delta]

40 days

[gilded pine]

over the entire patch

[timber wyvern]

Oh that's the daily commissions thing

[tame flint]

Not 100+ anymore

[gilded pine]

the new su only gives 1k?

[tame flint]

[gilded pine]

i thought it'd be 4k total like swarm

[tame flint]

@wooden harness

[vagrant fog]

Pls win another award

[tame flint]

Oh that's just an approximation

So there are quite a bit of them

Maybe we'll get more since some are
~x

[gilded pine]

oh

[wooden harness]

I thibk I can still pull for RM LC

[fallow delta]

Where’s our Christmas gift

[gilded pine]

it's guaranteed ruan mei 50/50

[wooden harness]

What if I dedicate a whole patch doing achievements

[kind valve]

its not worth much lol

[spiral wolf]

5 jades per achievement

320 achievements for 10 pull

[wooden harness]

How long can my phone storage last with the map updates

[fallow delta]

Very long

[thick ore]

am buying my new phone this week

with 512gb

[kind valve]

[fallow delta]

Delete system

Taking an entire 16 gb

[spiral wolf]

💀

[thick ore]

|| https://fxtwitter.com/starrail_info/status/1739255110172070354 ||

i can

smell the drama

already

[spiral wolf]

always drama smh

[wooden harness]

Pulling for both 2.0 chars looks more doable now

[thick ore]

also

after some discussion with the others

she actually is just fundamentally better for almost all dps

minus dot

[fallow delta]

So like

Ruanmei

[thick ore]

ruanbait

sorry

[spiral wolf]

[wooden harness]

who

[thick ore]

sparkles

[tame flint]

We're changing the course now shinjo?

We can still do it

[wooden harness]

That just makes it a little easier for skip

[tame flint]

🗿

[thick ore]

a bit, depends on v3 changes

if she still retains this

[spiral wolf]

this well timed leak right before banner

[thick ore]

then ye, ruan mei is ruan bait

[tame flint]

What if sparkles get even more better

[fallow delta]

There’s 2 banner b4 sparkles

Get both

[gilded pine]

just get both and replace 4 star harmonies

[fallow delta]

Fr

[gilded pine]

except tingyun ofc

[vagrant fog]

this

[spiral wolf]

Harmony: Star Rail

[hollow musk]

Time for 512gb phone

[rigid bison]

Tingyun can finally get her canonical fate

[tame flint]

[timber wyvern]

one day moc will have 3 teams

[vagrant fog]

lets goooo

raid boss

2 teams fighting 1 boss

[spiral wolf]

whole account vs 1 boss

[wooden harness]

RIP to Fu Xuan

[spiral wolf]

your unleveled chara will also get forced into the fight

[vagrant fog]

poor my lvl 1 gepar

[thick ore]

btw

for those who have topaz and jingyuan

sparkles even buffs their numby and LL

[rigid bison]

1/3 Fu Xuan can probably still tank everything

[carmine burrow]

who are those mid characters

[rigid bison]

Just have her in all 3 teams

[frosty bane]

I swear to god If we get another puzzle map like Cloudford

[fallow delta]

How is she buffing jy

[vagrant fog]

tbh

[fallow delta]

I can see topaz

[vagrant fog]

its still day 0 beta test 2.0

[spiral wolf]

buffers that have duration over a turn would work with the summons

[thick ore]

^

you know how bronyas E just last after a units turn

sparkles E doesnt do that

[fallow delta]

Damn

Bronya worst support

[spiral wolf]

as long as the buff is still on the character when the summon goes

[fallow delta]

God please make Acheron trash

[tame flint]

[fallow delta]

Im about to become my name

[wooden harness]

Nahhhhhh

[fallow delta]

I can already tell she will have amazing animation looking at BS and sparkles

[vagrant fog]

post Archeron headcannon kit pls

[worn sable]

animation powercreep is real

[gilded pine]

can't wait for acheron to be insane

[fallow delta]

Pls stop

[quasi chasm]

wont stop me on pulling

[vagrant fog]

bitchass Daniel

[kind valve]

shouldve bring lynx instead of luocha smh

[vagrant fog]

why auto is better than manual

ski--skill issue?

[frosty bane]

Should have bring FX smh

[gilded pine]

luck issue

[frosty bane]

Also how is your Luocha build, low HP Luocha wasting his passive on himself is kinda bad

[vagrant fog]

Daniel got combo'ed by the boss

that flower attack with 2.1k damage

[orchid hull]

Nah, I'd win

[frosty bane]

Smh FX best sustain confirmed

[vagrant fog]

My Luo should be fine

[fallow delta]

We huohuo gang

[frosty bane]

That atk is a bit overkill imo

[vagrant fog]

need more Crate

[carmine burrow]

kinda bad ngl

[gilded pine]

more spd

make him even faster

[carmine burrow]

not enough crit rate and crit damage smh

[vagrant fog]

yeah too much ATK

[orchid hull]

So
This is all 20 pulls for limited banners or a 10/10 split between the normal and the special tix?

[vagrant fog]

need more CRate and CDMG

[thick ore]

10 login

10 mail

[vagrant fog]

oh this also not maxed yet

[tough condor]

huohuo scaled by HP right ?

[thick ore]

oh jfc

man

[orchid hull]

No I mean, 10/10 split between standard and limited banner tix or nah

[vagrant fog]

why his gloves is like this

why I build him like he is some dps or something

[thick ore]

oh no, those are 20 limited tickets

[quasi chasm]

be like me kazma
auto everything

[frosty bane]

10 normal is find, faster Bronya

[orchid hull]

Oh nice then

[vagrant fog]

true, auto is the wae

[frosty bane]

AI is better than me

[orchid hull]

The pic is confusing tbh

[thick ore]

after 2.0, kafka, bs and ruan mei and then mono quantum are gonna be the best teams

[orchid hull]

I still like experimental teams

[tough condor]

17 what

[frosty bane]

JL Bronya Mei look sick tbh

[orchid hull]

Like FUA teams and DoT teams

JL will have to be content with Pela Bronya this time

[tough condor]

I thought it was only 10 GB android

[carmine burrow]

Bronya/Ruan Mei/Tingyun/Sparkle team frfr

[vagrant fog]

I approve those comp

[orchid hull]

Make Bronya the Carry

[vagrant fog]

Bronya with 100% CRate

[spiral wolf]

why dps if every harmony buff each other to godhood

[frosty bane]

Bronya 50k auto incoming

[orchid hull]

You just stack CDamage on Bronya

And watch as she nukes with her normal Atk

[carmine burrow]

no, I will make Sparkle a carry so I can annoy more people by calling her Sparkle

[frosty bane]

RIP Hanabi

[thick ore]

jingliu, sparkles, bronya, huohuo. give jingliu over 700 crit damage

[frosty bane]

Everyone call you sparkle now

[carmine burrow]

you don't call Blade by his JP name anyway

[frosty bane]

What’s march name in Japanese again ?

[carmine burrow]

Payaso no Tsuma

[frosty bane]

[tough condor]

I exposed to hanabi name first and march just goes mitsuki with me since Im using JP voice

[wooden harness]

Yeah I like the name Mitsuki more

[carmine burrow]

weebs

[vagrant fog]

weebs

[wooden harness]

but I would keep referring to her as March

[frosty bane]

Pretty sure 99% of HSR player don’t know who is Mitsuki

[wooden harness]

and also still Hanabi for me

[spiral wolf]

I like how support's attack animations really dont match with damage scale
bronya's dum gun doing thousands, fx world breaking ult doing 10k, then these normal dpses crit on basic attack for 20k by swinging a sword

[frosty bane]

With sparkle I’m reliving dps FX copium

[vagrant fog]

meanwhile

spinning numby with 70k damage

[spiral wolf]

and then lightning lord with 7369 damage

[frosty bane]

Ppl meme about lightning lord losing to a pig

[spiral wolf]

[vagrant fog]

huge

yep Im ready

[frosty bane]

Gl RM puller

Might give her a few multi if she’s broken in practice

[thick ore]

i'll think about it too depending on how v3 beta test is gonna look like

[orchid hull]

We'll see how nerfed BS and Sparkles are

Then I'll decide

[vagrant fog]

these meta slaves

[orchid hull]

Its just that BS cant just go to the game at this state

Holy shit she hits like a truck

[carmine burrow]

all these meta sweats

[orchid hull]

Look I just want my mommy

[carmine burrow]

I pull for thighs

[orchid hull]

Gimme BS

[vagrant fog]

[tough condor]

[orchid hull]

So what does BS need in stats hmm

EHR, Speed, Atk, etc...

[thick ore]

ehr, atk speed

in that order

reach 120 ehr, then atk and speed

[orchid hull]

Is it EHR chest + Atk Orb or just EHR + Wind Dmg Orb?

Wait also

Can BS be in a supportive role like Pela? ||Since her Skill adds Def Shred and her ult gives Vuln||

[spiral wolf]

[vagrant fog]

why?

just go full DPS

[rigid bison]

It's like buildting supports into dps but reverse

Never thought I would ever see that

[spiral wolf]

sp generator seele

[keen pike]

hopefully skipping 2 banner saves me enough for e2 hanabi

and her LC

[vagrant fog]

how many jades / ticket you have rn?

[frosty bane]

You need like 600 pull for guarantee E2S1

From a non pity and lose 5050 7525

[orchid hull]

Gonna skip one patch

And just go all in for BS

I want E1S1 at least

[vagrant fog]

Kafka BS(E1) SW(E2) + anything

sounds like they require less EHR

also sounds whale

[quasi chasm]

btw is there calculation for first half on patch 2.0?
i see a calculation but i assume thats for whole patch

oh nvm what shinji gave has one

[vagrant fog]

oh E2 Sparkle give 9% Def Ignore buff

not sure if this really worth it

[quasi chasm]

if 10% is already good on quan set then its worth it

[vagrant fog]

nah I'd skip

[frosty bane]

That sounds weak ngl for a E2

[quasi chasm]

now that i realize who can give the most def ignore buff

[spiral tendon]

Silverwolf

Bet

[quasi chasm]

how much she does

i just look and it says reduce def
whats the difference between def ignore and reduce def

[spiral wolf]

same thing

[spiral tendon]

In the end, enemies took more dmg

[quasi chasm]

then its definitely sw then

[spiral wolf]

just a wording thing, reduce def is attached to enemy, their def decreased
def ignore is added as the character attacks, part of defense is not taken into account for that attack(s)

[thick ore]

[vagrant fog]

damn

Rasengan looks different nowadays

[orchid hull]

Who voices Sparkle btw

[spiral wolf]

"can I copy your homework"
"sure but change it up a little bit"

[naive atlas]

Which language

[prisma crow]

Hold on what patch r we in rn

[thick ore]

|| acheron 2nd form ||

[solar dock]

not purple, L

[pearl locust]

She became Rita

[wooden harness]

No way

[tame flint]

EN (wont include the embed because it's just gonna be spam)
https://twitter.com/honkaistarrail/status/1735147701728325663?t=zymJUecSX5H5_wwULlv-TA&s=19

JP
https://twitter.com/houkaistarrail/status/1735147686842786012?t=tn5toCdLvlK_sRYBLmowiQ&s=19

@thick ore

[vagrant fog]

[carmine burrow]

skipping BS then

[vagrant fog]

worst 5* char

[wooden harness]

Hoyo wtf

They really making us pick between Kafka and BS

the only other way to have them both in one team is removing the sustain

[vagrant fog]

I think Kafka can detonate it after BS ult

best 5* char

[wooden harness]

So does she apply dot

There's still time for changes

[tame flint]

No

There's no what ifs

Its choose your mom

[vagrant fog]

?

[tame flint]

A new one or the current one

[vagrant fog]

its still not counted as DoT after ult?

[tame flint]

No

Its explained above that both of the mechanics are NOT DoT

But her own thing

So its like youre trying to detonate a bomb with the wrong detonator

[vagrant fog]

yeah

[tame flint]

Or more like, there is no detonator, its automatic

[vagrant fog]

but he didnt explain about ephiphany tho

[carmine burrow]

well, we still don't know

[tame flint]

Its just dmg bonus

When under epiphany effect

[carmine burrow]

if it functions like propagation bombs, she's not what Kafka is waiting for

if it functions like DoT, then she will enable Kafka

[tame flint]

Its written in the screenshot i provided above

[carmine burrow]

I mean he is basing it in the hunter site

[tame flint]

Fair

[vagrant fog]

wait until someone try this on beta test server

[plush willow]

https://fxtwitter.com/NoisyPixelNews/status/1739142975438135347

cope is real

[orchid hull]

Why not both, make it 3 Nihility Charas that can bounce off of each other?

Kafka - BS - DoT Unit - Sustain

And consider BS as a Pela replacement with her Def Shred + Vuln on ult, that can actually hit like a truck

[solar dock]

I get all purple women, this is not negotiable

idc about stats

[timber wyvern]

Does BS not inflict wind shear on her own

[thick ore]

you see what i mean about black swan being confusing? this is why i said to wait for a vid of gameplay @tame flint

[safe oriole]

She does inflict a different kind of dot on her own

Pretty much wind shear on steroids and count as 4 different dot

[thick ore]

@tame flint

^ the 20% in question

[quasi chasm]

so shes definitely good with kafka

[thick ore]

ye

[quasi chasm]

they should implement where you can refund chara traces

[safe oriole]

She needs crazy amounts of ehr huh

Good for her since she gets dmg bonus in return for ehr

[thick ore]

120 ehr to be specific

but

its not that hard considering she has her trace

plus her best 4 star LC

is sampos

[quasi chasm]

oof i might overkill her with ehr

[thick ore]

at s5

[safe oriole]

I like how limited lcs went from some crit rate and spd to crit dmg mod to full on c6 level effects

[silent owl]

||While afflicted with Sacrament, enemy targets receive Wind DoT equal to 240% of Black Swan's ATK. Each stack of Sacrament increases this DMG multiplier by 12%. Then Sacrament resets to 1 stack. Sacrament can stack up to 99 times.||
If you detonate, you get the damage up-front but wipe the stack count

[sharp kestrel]

How long before Ruan Mei drops

[silent owl]

Reads like a trade-off, either upfront damage or delayed damage with bonus effects

[thick ore]

26-29 hours from now

[quasi chasm]

i can just switch my sampo relics

now that i see it myself looks bad

[thick ore]

you know whats funny?

sampo is probably one of her best teammates too

[safe oriole]

And 7 stacks for def ignore or smth like that

[thick ore]

if you dont have ruan mei

sampo is like the next best thing

unironically

[carmine burrow]

no way I am putting mommy and sampo in the same team

[tame flint]

[carmine burrow]

fuck sampo

[tame flint]

First thing i see after waking up, sampo, the next best thing

[sharp kestrel]

Man about to scam you of your mommy like how he scams your credits

[safe oriole]

I'd rather use gui

[sharp kestrel]

I'll probably put my gui instead

[quasi chasm]

theres gonna free ||4* selector|| so same

even if shes e0

[sharp kestrel]

I have e5 so she has effect res shred, add on luka lc and she amps damage, shreds def and effect res

Also she's way cuter than shampoo

[sharp kestrel]

||well make that E6 gui incoming then||

[safe oriole]

On time for gold and gear

[quasi chasm]

wait what planet does black swan use

will she use pan cos

[orchid hull]

Yes Pan

[sharp kestrel]

I want to say the ehr one but at the same time the new one with the dmg% would work nicely as well

[quasi chasm]

[orchid hull]

Cause you just want a fkton of EHR, 120% to be exact

[quasi chasm]

maybe if i can get my ehr to 120 without pan i can also use the new relic

[sharp kestrel]

Well if you have shampoo's lc s5

[quasi chasm]

this one?

[sharp kestrel]

It'll be what 40lc + 46 (?) from ehr body

How much do her traces give

I'm guessinf maybe 2 to 3 nodes

[orchid hull]

10% EHR

[quasi chasm]

4 + 6

[sharp kestrel]

And pan is 10%?

[orchid hull]

Sorry brainfart

[orchid hull]

Ye

[orchid hull]

And dont forget it adds 25% Atk

[sharp kestrel]

So 100+% ehr from main stats alone

[orchid hull]

On Pan

[sharp kestrel]

So 120% not too hard with ehr body

[orchid hull]

Its really not

[sharp kestrel]

Then again it's hoyo gear farming we're talking about

Everything goes into flat def

[orchid hull]

Also get E1 on her as a top prio

[sharp kestrel]

Always.

[orchid hull]

Cause uh

That's a lot of RES Pen

[quasi chasm]

all element res pen

well the dot stuff

[orchid hull]

This is gonna get nerfed in the next Beta ver

[quasi chasm]

good thing i asked cus i have this

i was planning to fodder that

[sharp kestrel]

[sharp kestrel]

Why fodder good dps gear

[orchid hull]

That's like the dream gear for her

MODS

[quasi chasm]

i thought no one gonna use that relic

and im one of those who like set effect pc

[sharp kestrel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1010186298549612564/1107664840660619334/Report.gif

[sharp kestrel]

Nah if you're nihility gang someone's going to end up needing that ehr

[orchid hull]

Also consider that EHR with Pan Bonuses give
25% Atk and 72% DMG

[quasi chasm]

all my nihility gang uses the new relic

[sharp kestrel]

Ah well that's also true

[orchid hull]

New Relic is good value

Its just

So many good relics to farm now and so little energy

[sharp kestrel]

Never enough

[quasi chasm]

ye thats why i thought pan will be forever to never get farmed again

[orchid hull]

Also this is gonna go nutty

And just add DMG Orb

[quasi chasm]

ye my plan now is just exchange all the books on pan cos orb

i was planning to exchange it to firmament quan for ratio but black swan is prio

[orchid hull]

Honestly

You better just get Dr Ratio relics first

Since BS is not free

While Ratio is

[quasi chasm]

im guaranteed swan

[orchid hull]

Get her E1

[quasi chasm]

so basically shes free for me too

[orchid hull]

Dew it

[quasi chasm]

i will

[orchid hull]

Honestly my Sampo LC is still S4

[thick ore]

btw

for those trying to build black swan

you dont need to necessarily get 120 EHR

going for spd boots, atk rope and wind orb are still very ideal

[sharp kestrel]

Well tbh since pan only gives 10% if you have enough ehr on relics you could really just go dmg set

Get those big DoT taxes in

[quasi chasm]

ye i really need to get her and see final stats

[sharp kestrel]

Also for Ratio he uses the follow up attack planar set?

[orchid hull]

I mean we can all get that but just sub the ATK chest with a EHR chest

[sharp kestrel]

Or just the dmg set as normal

[orchid hull]

Ye Salsotto

[sharp kestrel]

Damn time to go back to world 6

[thick ore]

but the chest one

[sharp kestrel]

Wait was it 6

[thick ore]

am still considering

we may need ehr body

[sharp kestrel]

Probably ehr body

[thick ore]

but not double ehr stat on rope and body

[orchid hull]

Rope doesnt have EHR tho

Only body does

[thick ore]

oh right

anyways

[orchid hull]

[thick ore]

blackswan is like building raiden

so annoying to optimize

[orchid hull]

I mean

At least

Youre not Xueyi

[sharp kestrel]

Since ehr body + either sig lc or shampoo + traces gets you to like high 80% - 100% you'll just need some stray hits into ehr substats and you're good

[thick ore]

at this rate of chars being this good tbh

i may never build a 4 star again

[orchid hull]

Not if youre a DOT team builder you dont

[thick ore]

i refuse to build sampo

[sharp kestrel]

Build guinaifen then

[orchid hull]

Build Gui then

[thick ore]

i'll just slap black swan, kafka, ruan mei and huohuo and call it a day

[orchid hull]

I do feel like BS likes triple DoT unit teams better than a support

[quasi chasm]

if you dont have kafka you really shouldnt
but if you have her in the other hand i hate to admit but he really have good dmg and small buff for dot that it affects a lot for kafka

[thick ore]

depends, ruan meis buffs on a dot team

is not to laugh about

[sharp kestrel]

Well if it's a energy support maybe she could use that

[thick ore]

tbh

[sharp kestrel]

Oh we talking about ruan mei not huohuo

[thick ore]

remember that ruan mei still gives 68+ dmg bonus and ult gives additional res pen and with black swans e1 thats juicy damage to your whole team

[sharp kestrel]

Ruan would still be good no? Break effeciency means you get the break dots faster

And break effect boost

[orchid hull]

I know

But my wallet

[thick ore]

[sharp kestrel]

Reject your wallet

[thick ore]

this is why i didnt want to get kafka tbh

[sharp kestrel]

The moment you touched another hoyo game

[thick ore]

i knew this would happen

[orchid hull]

https://tenor.com/view/money-wallet-broke-gif-7855913

I'll just do a triple DOT team

And see the 🔢

The explosions

[sharp kestrel]

Just do 50/50 for ruan mei and save that guarantee for black swan

Unless you're on guarantee

Then oof

[orchid hull]

I am not

I'll spend like, 20 pulls ig

[sharp kestrel]

Also which gear set for ratio

The new follow up atk set?

or is there a newer one on the way

[orchid hull]

No dont for the set

[sharp kestrel]

[orchid hull]

This is his new set btw, next patch

[sharp kestrel]

||Oh it's ratio and ruan mei sets||

[thick ore]

i was bothered by this form for a while now

i remembered now she looks like lucia crimson weave in pgr

[orchid hull]

Also just realized

Dr Ratio might want BS in his team since she has a fkton of debuffs

[silent owl]

Pretty sure she only has two

3 after ulting

[orchid hull]

Just add Reso ig well SW will be his best partner but if you dont have SW but is planning to pull BS

[tame flint]

That's copium salt

What about bs then

You gonna remove a harmony and replace with another dot unit

[indigo gazelle]

Dot

More like don’t

[tame flint]

Im about to change my support bronya on 2.0

[tough condor]

It's hard to 0 cycle dot team

[tame flint]

Ive never cared about 0 cycle

[indigo gazelle]

Is this your Christmas gift to me

[tough condor]

Give me bronya

[indigo gazelle]

0 cycle is for nerds

[tame flint]

Sure, wait till i get sparkles

[indigo gazelle]

Speaking of Christmas

[orchid hull]

We'll see how she works

[tame flint]

Yeah bs is confusing

[orchid hull]

The way I look at it is that she really wants those Sacrament stacks

[tough condor]

If only hsr could place 5 units in party

[indigo gazelle]

Anybody got a replacement for the thread pic or am I gonna have to leave it there for another day until I find a new years replacement

[orchid hull]

If you pair her with Kafka doubly so

[indigo gazelle]

[tame flint]

I have it saved on my device now

[indigo gazelle]

Look at you guys, just pull for BS because u want her

Not because of her kit

[orchid hull]

Because of this, you want a variety of DoTs on her

[indigo gazelle]

[orchid hull]

But

I do want mommy since the beginning

[tame flint]

BS solo SUS

[indigo gazelle]

And I have proof of the true culprit

[tame flint]

Wdym

[tame flint]

[indigo gazelle]

I am a man of the people

Whatever u guys suggest, I’ll will oblige to the best of my ability

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-it-gif-18812641

[tame flint]

REMOVE BRONYA FROM SUPPORT CHARACTER

[indigo gazelle]

related to this thread

Didn’t think I needed to add a fine print

[tame flint]

[orchid hull]

Also the wording here is "each debuff" so uh
Different stacks of DoTs work ig? Like Kafka's sig LC and her own Shock

Dammit BS is rather confusing

[pearl locust]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1064922790223958146/1107249866607951912/FASTER123sdf.gif

[indigo gazelle]

Kuru kuru is too vanilla

Put a Santa hat on it

[ornate bronze]

Let the other choose

[indigo gazelle]

Aight, I’ll check on this later then

[ornate bronze]

I feel like everyone would choose the pompom one

[thick ore]

edit the pompom out and put me in it

[vagrant fog]

wow

I am Pompom anti rn

[ornate bronze]

Ur gonna fight mihoyo then

[thick ore]

i'll fight them and the entire playerbase, if it means i can sleep in ruan meis lap

[ornate bronze]

But shinjo

How are u going to sleep on her laps when u aren't getting her

[frosty bane]

Just borrow your friend Mei, that’s a great doujin plot

[worn sable]

|| https://fxtwitter.com/wiiisfinedw/status/1739426095529906525?s=46&t=q7imB0ewbMoAY-eYeO93Jg ||

achievements

[orchid hull]

Wait I just realized

Is Sacrament a permanent debuff

[silent owl]

Yeah

Unless enemies have cleanse

[orchid hull]

Cause it just resets to 1

That in itself is already bonkers

[timber wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-should-been-gif-23901254

You know what I'll actually go hard in and spark RM

Instead of settling for 50/50

[fallow delta]

That’s what I’ve been thinking ever since I saw her other form

But I kept quiet

[vocal sparrow]

wait uh blades w ruan mei right

is ruan mei good cause im torn between her and pulling for blades light cone

[vagrant fog]

Blade LC only usable for Blade / Clara

Ruan Mei can support any DPS

ez choice

[carmine burrow]

Blade LC it is

[vocal sparrow]

aight then ill pull for RM

i really need more supports

[silent hill]

i only wanna to rise up the pity

[indigo gazelle]

[silent hill]

i think it's a goodbye for the rm first banner

[indigo gazelle]

It’s temporary tho

Until something nicer comes along

[vagrant fog]

"rise up the pity"

= gamba addict

[silent hill]

i was trying to mask my impulsive QQ move

but I wasn't expecting that, the pity was around 40±

[ornate bronze]

[silent hill]

i dunno now if i am happy or sad

[quasi chasm]

are you 50/50 or guaranteed

[silent hill]

50/50

[frosty bane]

Happy time

[quasi chasm]

you should be happy then

[frosty bane]

Also gambling addiction

[ornate bronze]

Did ruan mei released yet

[silent hill]

i was expecting to pull a Clara or something like that

[fallow delta]

Tomorrow

[frosty bane]

[silent hill]

for the next 5★ being the guaranteed one

[ornate bronze]

Oh yeah 27

[silent hill]

but... yeah

[ornate bronze]

[frosty bane]

Smh can’t control your gambling addiction

It could have been an early RM

[fallow delta]

Account ruined

[silent hill]

i listened QQ voice in my mind speaking to roll

well, now, think i guess it's time to think about Mei on 2 .0

[quasi chasm]

mei is tomorrow

[silent hill]

no, the mei face

[quasi chasm]

ah that kind of mei

[frosty bane]

She’s 2.1

[silent hill]

i use RM for Herta ' s gf

[sharp kestrel]

[silent hill]

i thought it was on 2.0

[frosty bane]

2.0 is sparkle and BS

[silent hill]

even better