Honkai: Star Rail (Old)

[indigo gazelle]

could work

[tame flint]

Wait you're talking about the character banner or lc

This man will surely use more

[orchid hull]

Might pull just a bit on RM banner

Like... 20 pulls

Then save for BS

[tame flint]

Do you know how much buff she gives

[vagrant fog]

like 4 or 5

if you also include her LC

[indigo gazelle]

look my budget is limited

[tame flint]

Thats on her ult activation tho

Strictly speaking just her skill, already gives a ton

[indigo gazelle]

sacrifices have to be made, and the meta doesnt haunt me in this game

[tame flint]

If you add her ult

She's gonna buff the entire team with like 9 buffs

[orchid hull]

I'm still skipping for Black Swan and Sparkles

[tame flint]

Thats tough

We'll be getting 102 pulls for f2p next update so

[orchid hull]

Not like the buffs make or break teams, the current buffers are already great

[tame flint]

More funds before 2.0 drains all of them

[orchid hull]

P much

[indigo gazelle]

does that include the gift of oddyseys

[orchid hull]

Also Dr Ratio is free kekw

[tame flint]

Ye

[orchid hull]

So that's also nice

[indigo gazelle]

sadge

[tame flint]

120 something with monthly

[orchid hull]

Or I should just get E1 Kafka

[tame flint]

And 130 something with monthly and bp

[vagrant fog]

no

just get Runa

[indigo gazelle]

maybe i can get more pulls by spending all the "whateverucallit" stuff in the shop

something starlight

[tame flint]

The embers?

[wooden harness]

Huh

[tame flint]

You we're gonna spend that for bronya lc, no?

[indigo gazelle]

yeah those, i got plenty since this game deemed it proper to give me e20 asta

[wooden harness]

maybe I really should pull for RM LC

[indigo gazelle]

gamba is life mai

[tame flint]

Says the man with a tight budget

[indigo gazelle]

people dont gamble because they're rich mai

[tame flint]

I gamba because of waifus

[vagrant fog]

because whel

[tame flint]

I say that but kafka and the same archetype dont make an impression on me

[indigo gazelle]

is kafka a waifu?

Oh I’m closer to Bronya LC than I thought

[tame flint]

Spend

SPEND

[indigo gazelle]

30 pulls or gurantee bronya LC

[tame flint]

S P E N D

** S P E N D**

[indigo gazelle]

youre just afraid that my bronya will become better than yours and i take back my market share

[tame flint]

Get her lc first then challenge me again

[indigo gazelle]

[safe oriole]

How hard is it to unlock the mail

[tame flint]

That part was like

After being able to move freely and not just do the introduction

[tame flint]

|| 68% dmg
10% speed
25% res pen
50% break efficiency
20% break effect
sp positive
buffs entirely tied to her own turn
buffs are completely team wide ||

Her ||bonus dmg shots up to 92% with her lc ||

[vagrant fog]

balance

[tame flint]

They ||nerfed her spd buff and all res pen buff

From 15% spd to 10% and 30% all res pen to 25%||

[vagrant fog]

still stoopid

[tame flint]

Just pull

[vagrant fog]

im ready

:IWillBeThereNoMatterWhat:

[kind valve]

xue yi still want crit rigght?

[vagrant fog]

she buff her team so hard that makes her ult animation so mid

[tame flint]

BE

Its either BE or crit

[kind valve]

full be?

[thick ore]

nah maik

she needs all

[tame flint]

What a greedy girl

[thick ore]

thats what makes her so hard to build

[kind valve]

lmao ill ust go crit body, speed boots, be rope then'

[orchid hull]

BE Rope, ATK Orb then standard Crit build

[vagrant fog]

she seems really need lot of investment

[orchid hull]

Since BE adds to DMG%

[sudden delta]

oh yeah I might stream my rolls from my hotel in japan

[vagrant fog]

also there is no good LC for her

[sudden delta]

[tame flint]

I'll just add her to collection and be done with it

[thick ore]

there is

the one in herta shop

she still needs atk too

[vagrant fog]

see

[tame flint]

Prolly on jl

[vagrant fog]

lol

[thick ore]

she's the most greediest dps we've ever gotten

stat wise

[vagrant fog]

lore wise

[tame flint]

They should release a similar lc to that one on herta shop but for harmony

[kind valve]

xue yi looks cute so its alright

[tame flint]

Right this is mishi

[vagrant fog]

her ult also looks cool

[tame flint]

The one who mistreated clara with an er rope

[thick ore]

xueyi has like 103 speed surprisingly

[tame flint]

||dont hate me mishi, its just a jork||

Can you work around building her with the traces

[safe oriole]

He better sleep with an eye open

[tame flint]

Because i dunno bruh, she needs all stats from spd, attack, be, cv, dmg bonus

[kind valve]

i usually use attack rope for her okay
i only use err rope if im doing 2 dps team

[thick ore]

if only her attacks scale with BE instead of atk

would have been pretty nice

but ye, she is a bit hard to build around

[tame flint]

I wonder if we'll ever get a unit that scales with spd

[kind valve]

seele lc

[tame flint]

That's not a unit

[thick ore]

[naive atlas]

Asta scale with speed trust

[thick ore]

reaching 240 BE man

[tame flint]

We cant even reach that

[thick ore]

i pray that the new LC they plan to add soon have one that has BE on it

[tame flint]

Where tho

Herta lc already have a destruction

Maybe new free 4 stars?

Like from doing the EoW and fragments from moc?

[sudden delta]

okay I think my pela is beefier now

[tame flint]

Lynx feeding pela with an extra pinch of protein

[naive atlas]

Yes...tree grub

[sudden delta]

Think tomrrow im gonna focuson raising traces for JL/TY

So I can do more damage

to that mfer argenti

[tame flint]

https://fxtwitter.com/mollozhang/status/1736919826575081485?t=Xmq4aFmwD6to0apFGqrdGg&s=19

[unborn stump]

mihoyo is everywhere

[naive atlas]

Hey that's Splatoon 2

And Mario Wonder I think?

How many can you guys name

[sudden delta]

thats shangri la frontier

[naive atlas]

[indigo gazelle]

of course seele va has hsr brainrot

[wooden harness]

Don't we all

Mine sometimes leak in #holo-chat

[tight haven]

Have this in return. xD

I check the Holo forums for HSR and stuff for fun.

You'll be amazed at the random codes you can find there that still works

[formal vector]

uwoooooooo

Queen Yuan

[slow raven]

Holo forums as in other Hololive related server Star Rail channels?

[tight haven]

Opps my bad my phone autocorrected Hoyo to Holo.

[slow raven]

oh

aight yea now that makes sense

[high isle]

are the ghost/fight club/round events speedrunable?

i have done a little bit of the ghost one but nothing from the other one so far

[silent hill]

[naive atlas]

Yes

[tame flint]

29 left

[silent hill]

ume?

[fallow delta]

[frosty bane]

Sus piece ?

[spiral wolf]

from what i tried the other day i should level up more 4 stars if i want to keep trying 4 star only moc runs (i'm trying not to level too many )
i'm 1 turn short of 3 stars and restricted team comp is holding back

[sweet meteor]

That looks like a ruan mei piece

Wut is result

[sand arrow]

What's ruan mei's ascension mats? Will it be from a new boss?

[frosty bane]

Yeah should be new boss

[sand arrow]

Alright

[silent hill]

i run out material to lvup

[sweet meteor]

Show current result

[silent hill]

so

i didn't get to lvup that piece

but all the sub are good

so i think it's okay anyone

i mean, spend all lvup on flat will be a pain

[sweet meteor]

[silent hill]

i don't get to complete moc 4 in 20 cycles yet

[sudden delta]

nice hit 152 speed on my TY

[vagrant fog]

noice

[spiral wolf]

just needed a good sleep and raise serval https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESONUDkQMW0

[frosty bane]

[fallow delta]

Natasha solo sustain

Pro

[spiral wolf]

nat is the most reactive sustain it takes a bit to get used to her again after being on bench for so long

with fx and lynx being super passive

march can be active play too during tight spots but she mostly does something (shield/freeze) before damage happens
so nat is probably most given she gets huge bonus heal on red hp but sometimes there's so much damage cant wait until then

[peak agate]

... fuck i did not get gepard or bronya

WHY THE BRAT

[sudden delta]

are you just starting

for some reason I assumed you played the game for a while

[peak agate]

i did play on day 1

but i quit and delete the acc

cause i got unlucky on every pull

but tbh i wish i got other unit beside this brat

i might build a 4 star team

not interested on the new 6* units

[tame flint]

What

[tame flint]

There's no 6*

[peak agate]

oh wiat its 5 star sorry AK brainrot

[orchid hull]

Next banner should be value for you, esp for the 4*

[worn sable]

[wooden harness]

The Ratio stickers are out

L

[orchid hull]

L

[sharp kestrel]

L

[formal vector]

W

[timber wyvern]

L bozo

[ornate bronze]

I love how it's still him giving out the L sign

[indigo gazelle]

imagine if that said i=Meta

[safe oriole]

Crazy

[peak agate]

how good is argentobtw

[hushed night]

pretty good

[peak agate]

i just got her

[hushed night]

him

[frosty bane]

Should be bis for pure fiction content

[hushed night]

the beauty

[spiral wolf]

luocha girl charcter moment

[hushed night]

anyway, pretty good afaik

[spiral wolf]

because long hair

[peak agate]

should i replace sushang to argenti??

[frosty bane]

They work pretty differently

[spiral wolf]

argenti if more braindead

sushang wants more maneuver

[sudden delta]

I'll upgrade argenti next patch

[frosty bane]

Don’t expect argenti doing anything to boss in your early game tho

[sudden delta]

Gotta pass moc10 with sus first

[frosty bane]

I would just run both

He’s beginner iirc

[sudden delta]

Yeah he is

Im still grinding traces today. Mostly for JL

[spiral wolf]

sometimes you do want to repeat element for two teams or even in the same team to deal with toughness bar

two phys wont hurt

[frosty bane]

JL is a great investment

[sudden delta]

Shes already near max

Im just optimizing my moc 10 run

[frosty bane]

If you can clear 8 and 9 10 should be doable, they are pretty close in term of difficulty

[fallow delta]

I should really find a better dps

Jingliu and imbibitor isn’t doing it for me anymore

[spiral wolf]

nani

[fallow delta]

C tier

Fr

[formal vector]

Aren't they like, top dps currently

[hoary shard]

damn, ain't they the best dest dps around

[formal vector]

beggar lives in 3.0 already

[fallow delta]

Damn don’t expose me like that

[spiral wolf]

is it the age of L+ ratio chalk sticks

[formal vector]

[spiral wolf]

ten trillion damage on world boss

dmg per screenshot letsgo

... just realized ratio can be part of 'f2p' or 'no pull' showcase teams

[indigo gazelle]

Yes

It’s extremely funny

[orchid hull]

He literally shouted "FREE EDUCATION"

[spiral wolf]

technically still f2p and no pull but boy does that make those restrictions easier

[indigo gazelle]

Ratio is the gift that gives on giving

[spiral wolf]

man called in, offered himself, refuses to elaborate, leaves

[wooden harness]

Only applies to players before 2.2

[spiral wolf]

what 2.2 i dont live in the future

[wooden harness]

iirc he's available until 2.1

[orchid hull]

I dont live in 2.2

[spiral wolf]

ah i see, the claim duration

[indigo gazelle]

2.2 should be around anniversary time

[wooden harness]

another free 5* for anniversary

[spiral wolf]

free swan pls

thanks

[indigo gazelle]

Imagine the anniversary 5* is just ratio again

[spiral wolf]

ratio: MORE FREE EDUCATION

[kind valve]

Pog e1 ratio

[orchid hull]

Pog

[indigo gazelle]

They get to say they gave a free 5* for anniversary without actually giving away a free 5*

[spiral wolf]

free yanqing

[formal vector]

🚮

[wooden harness]

I'd prefer they let us pick a non-limited 5*

[indigo gazelle]

People will actually be more upset at a free yanqing than ratio I feel

[orchid hull]

I prefer a non limited 5* selector ye

[spiral wolf]

(that's the joke)

[wooden harness]

I'd like a Bronya and Clara

[indigo gazelle]

I hope not

[orchid hull]

At least theBronya is free

And everyone can get her

[indigo gazelle]

I need to maintain my Bronya monopoly in the market

[orchid hull]

No

Bronya for all

[spiral wolf]

your days are numbered

[spiral wolf]

people are at like 250+/300 now

if day1 ish

[naive atlas]

Imp sic your Gundam Wing Bronya on them

[spiral wolf]

and they will likely get bronya if without one

[indigo gazelle]

Stop

[orchid hull]

Yes

[indigo gazelle]

It’s my only source of money

[orchid hull]

Dont deny it

Bronya will come for all

[indigo gazelle]

It’s how I maintain over 20 mil credits

[orchid hull]

She will be ubiquitous

[indigo gazelle]

[orchid hull]

Slap a FX there instead

Watch as your supports dont die

[wooden harness]

I’m a day 7 and I’m at 250

[spiral wolf]

some people that sacc very early at limited banner might also throw extra jades on standard to hit 300 at this point

it's close to 300 enough to consider that

[indigo gazelle]

Those people are psycopaths

Like Mai

[wooden harness]

I would prefer if you guys put FX as the support character

[orchid hull]

Do you want my FX?

[spiral wolf]

my fx at everyone's service

[indigo gazelle]

I refuse, it’s Bronya or no support

[naive atlas]

What server is Imp on again? Asia?

[wooden harness]

I use whoever has better fx stats

[indigo gazelle]

[indigo gazelle]

Asia

[hoary shard]

thanks pko

[orchid hull]

I kinda want to replace my FX rope with an ER rope but

If I do her health drops to 6.5k

[spiral wolf]

my fx on landau s4 is actually harder to kill than some fx on sigs I tried to borrow

[indigo gazelle]

Peako fx is unreliable, I had a daily mission the other day and when I went to borrow his it wasn’t there

[wooden harness]

Actually I’ve used Peako’s fx once then just keep rolling supports until I see a FX with her signature lc and decent hp

[orchid hull]

Lemme see stats

Mine uses S3 Landau

At she doesnt die

[hoary shard]

though i kinda split between a random friend with 10k hp fx and him

[orchid hull]

At 7.3k health

[spiral wolf]

#1064922790223958146 message

[orchid hull]

Though I do want to replace her boots

Ah you used Ageless

I use Keel

[indigo gazelle]

Think my fx is better than peako

[spiral wolf]

you probably hit jackpot when someone asks for temporary test of jing yuan or seggs

[indigo gazelle]

Oh no wonder why

[spiral wolf]

or when I take fx's gear over to natasha for a 4* only moc run

[wooden harness]

I think I rarely see a fx with the guard set

[orchid hull]

Mine is something like this

[indigo gazelle]

Mine is longevous + guard

[spiral wolf]

fx with samey relics but on sig would be a better fx for sure dont get me wrong

[wooden harness]

is the 4pc guard really good for fx?

[spiral wolf]

i just mean i tried borrow and they dont sacc relic yet

[orchid hull]

No

Dont 4pc on FX

[wooden harness]

Damn I thought it would be

[indigo gazelle]

[naive atlas]

No, 2 guard 2 HP (any) is considered the best for tanking

[orchid hull]

Mine is optimized for healing

[indigo gazelle]

Mine is optimised to take punches to the face

[orchid hull]

So she heals other units better

[indigo gazelle]

[orchid hull]

And heals to full on her talent

[naive atlas]

What's the Xianzhou HP set called again

[spiral wolf]

settling with set that works on both crit and dot teams altho it does barely anything for crit team

[vagrant fog]

me with HP 4 set

FX ez ult crit

[frosty bane]

Mine is 7.7k heath on herta LC with ER rope and 139 spd on kneel set

[naive atlas]

ah yes
DPS Fu Xuan

[vagrant fog]

30k damage ult

huge

[orchid hull]

I def wanna replace my boots tho

[indigo gazelle]

I’ve seen people do that with 4pc longevous for subdps fx

[orchid hull]

Want more health substat

[vagrant fog]

fox

[indigo gazelle]

Psychopaths

[indigo gazelle]

Don’t blame me for what autocorrect assumes

[orchid hull]

Or DEF substat

[frosty bane]

FX dmg is just too sad to be sub dps, memeable hypercarry tho

[naive atlas]

When will we get a DPS fox

[indigo gazelle]

Soon™️

[frosty bane]

Dps Yukong exist

[orchid hull]

Yukong is our DPS at home

[indigo gazelle]

We’re thinking more along the lines of pink hair fox

[spiral wolf]

heal believer more hp sponge per ult stack

[orchid hull]

Imagine a pink fox and she's just

[wooden harness]

Has one of the most powerful-looking ultimates
3k damage

[spiral wolf]

effectively literally more than hp% sets

[naive atlas]

A certain pink haired fox with a sick (or dead) sister

[indigo gazelle]

Actually, would that mean that she will have to be a xianzhou native

[frosty bane]

Will HSR get Kiana variance before Yae variance?

[indigo gazelle]

That’s gonna fuck with my brain if she’s a xianzhou foxian

[indigo gazelle]

fire mc cough

[wooden harness]

My fmc deals more damage than fx

[frosty bane]

Yeah break effect mc is a legit build

[wooden harness]

.....no

[spiral wolf]

break effect
zayden: 6k def go brr

[indigo gazelle]

doubt that but then again robin is a thing

[wooden harness]

Then it all changed when I got Gepard

[naive atlas]

||Is that the Kallen/Vill V lookalike||

[vagrant fog]

bro

Gepard is bad

his ult has no damage

[spiral wolf]

[kind valve]

I mean kallen called herself robin

[indigo gazelle]

||yeah, although i think from what people are saying she's has more theresa notes||

[fallow delta]

Im 1 month late and I’m at 300+

[wooden harness]

I already miss my fmc making 750 shields every action

[frosty bane]

Huh ?

[spiral wolf]

me and my level 1 gepard that came up in 50/50 on fx banner

[wooden harness]

have you spent jades on standard

[fallow delta]

Just a little

[spiral wolf]

[fallow delta]

Like 15ish

[naive atlas]

bricked account

[frosty bane]

Sure

I’m 2 month late and I’m at 200

[fallow delta]

Im just that fast

[kind valve]

just use gems on standard

ez 300

[spiral wolf]

beggar so fast the time gate broke

[sudden delta]

I joined around a week before the seele banner ended

Im at 251

the first seele banner mind you

[spiral wolf]

started in middle of seele banner, 252

[orchid hull]

When did you get your Seele

[sudden delta]

the 2nd banner

i rushed the story to get enough rolls for seele and I got a himeko

[orchid hull]

I started when uh... Blade banner starts

230ish

[frosty bane]

You buy battle pass ?

[sudden delta]

yes

[orchid hull]

Yes

[frosty bane]

Ah no wonder

[wooden harness]

I am so glad I won my first ever 50/50 with Seele

[sudden delta]

I buy battle pass and daily login

[frosty bane]

I ‘m so slow

[spiral wolf]

it's 1 ticket a week from SU and 1 ticket per 2 weeks if you exchange from SU shop, are there anywhere else I dont remember

[frosty bane]

5 monthly

That’s it

[sudden delta]

think when I max my JL ill try moc10 again

if that doesnt work ill try maxing TY

[frosty bane]

What is your team ?

[kind valve]

😔

[sudden delta]

uhh sec

also my current JL

[kind valve]

i think i started around seele banner too

[naive atlas]

I've been playing since launch and only have 230

[sudden delta]

I think I can skip the normal attack since I never used it

[frosty bane]

No battle pass gang

[spiral wolf]

i still have 20ish SU tickets to exchange but still holding it cuz I might want the destruc lc one to go with xueyi

[naive atlas]

Using normals on JL is a sign of skill issue

[sudden delta]

My team...

[naive atlas]

Or SP drain

[sudden delta]

I was super close yesterday

[orchid hull]

Also I rushed the story and got spooked by Bailu

On Blade Banner

[frosty bane]

The team look solid

[sudden delta]

people here helped me with relics

[frosty bane]

Just need some upgrades I guess

[orchid hull]

Got Kafka next, then got spooked by theBronya

[sudden delta]

Im like a turn off from wining

maybe Ill upgrade my JL ult to 10 and tr moc10 again

[orchid hull]

Try to upgrade the talent instead

[sudden delta]

[orchid hull]

Since you get CRate from there

[sudden delta]

tru

her current crit rates 31 so with my talent upgraded she'll hit nearly 80

[orchid hull]

Nah she'll def hit 80+

50% Crate from that talent

[sudden delta]

ah

at max

well I cant hit max today

super broke

[orchid hull]

Well you have time

[sudden delta]

yeah

might just try moc10 anyway for a bit

[orchid hull]

And you dont really need 80+ crate, it just helps RNG

[sudden delta]

if anyone wanna help me

[orchid hull]

My JL is just 26% Crate btw

Gonna farm for better relics for her soonTM

[sudden delta]

gonna hop in VC for like 30 mins cuz im tired

come watch me fail to claer this shit

[frosty bane]

She’s multi hit so 70+ should be enough but I always find 80+ more comfortable

[orchid hull]

80+ is comfy

I have FX maxed so add 12% Crate

That makes my JL hit 88% Crate

God the extra CRate from FX is a godsend

[spiral wolf]

and 30 cdmg

<-- totally spoiled by e1

[frosty bane]

Yeah Brando should ultilize mobs more for Seele dmg buff

[ornate bronze]

Wait brando doing MoC 10?

[spiral tendon]

ey im tl70 now

[sudden delta]

Aight cant moc10 today

[ornate bronze]

U still have tomorrow

[sudden delta]

Theres two more days on the dobule drops right?

[ornate bronze]

I think tomorrow's the last day

Just pray you'll get 5 purple drops

[sudden delta]

I got a random 3 purple drop from a normal run earlier

[ornate bronze]

I don't get like a single one like today

Even with 2x drops

[frosty bane]

You can still do relic after that, I supprise your Seele rarely miss ult crit with like 60% crit rate with FX

[ornate bronze]

Wait

I have a question

The First MoC 10 stage is the gatekeeper right?

[sudden delta]

Ye

[ornate bronze]

[sudden delta]

We solved it by doing break effect on SW

Helped a lot

[ornate bronze]

Do u like

Activate his Mode

Like he summons those jellyfish

[sudden delta]

In 2nd round I have to

Too much hp for now

[spiral wolf]

jl damage is mostly on transcendent mode skill? or ult? i no haver

[ornate bronze]

Transcendent mode and Ult

[spiral wolf]

skill used more often so I assume skill

[frosty bane]

he have enough break to bruceforce the first one before the fish came out

[ornate bronze]

Skill/Transcendent Mode/Ult

Ult is basically a nuker

Skill is general makes her do more dmg

[sudden delta]

At least my pela is beefier now

[spiral wolf]

i assume we just dont talk about out of transcendent

[ornate bronze]

Yeah I notice'd that she was tanking alot better

[spiral wolf]

just comparing skill/ult during transcendent

[ornate bronze]

I see her ult do 3000+ when not in transcendent

Also

I'm very surprised that JL wasn't getting hit that alot

Since shes a destruction unit,I thought she will get hit more often than the others

But oh boy am I wrong

[frosty bane]

Buffer have taunt, they lie to us

[spiral wolf]

most teams's aggro rate is practically pretty equal unless it's literally preservation vs hunt/eru in the same team

[frosty bane]

Any buffer just get hit

[spiral wolf]

or with aggro modifiers

[frosty bane]

[spiral wolf]

that's just how rng works

[ornate bronze]

And this is why I'm thankful that I got Luocha/FX

Boy they do alot on my team

[spiral wolf]

landau's choice high superimpo is actually quite god

[ornate bronze]

I have gepard LC

But tbf

[frosty bane]

I don’t have both so I use Herta one

[ornate bronze]

Landau's Choice is such a good F2P LC for preservation

[spiral wolf]

'downside' is you have to be confident in your preservation, they will take punches to the face a lot

fu xuan meant to use her hp pool to share damage will now often take that damage to her own face for example

which if you are confident you can take it, it's actually better for the team

[frosty bane]

Landau FX can run HP rope anyway so it’s fine

[ornate bronze]

And more speed for them

Oml

They're are such a god send

[spiral wolf]

and the healings fx give will matter more since team takes direct damage less often

[frosty bane]

Ok question, does aoe buff like Asta Bronya ult trigger 4pc spd set ?

[spiral wolf]

yes

for asta

[frosty bane]

Are you sure it’s not because her spd buff ?

[spiral wolf]

yeah, the turn bar shows action value change twice

from ult and from set

[frosty bane]

So Bronya don’t eh

Not sure will Mei ult trigger it

[spiral wolf]

i dont have bronya, i assume she would

cuz somebody warned 4pc spd on bronya can mess up speed tuning cuz the spd increase there is percentage and everybody get sped up unequally

[frosty bane]

Will need to farm 4pc spd with break sub for Mei if her ult does trigger it

[ornate bronze]

^this is actually true

[frosty bane]

So they does eh, nice to know

[ornate bronze]

This is why I don't use 4pc speed set

They can either be good

Or mess up ur speed tuning

[frosty bane]

Not Bronya or Yukong player so I would like to use it

[spiral wolf]

turn order doesn't really matter on my teams or they are build with speed so far apart the 4pc effect wont change the order

like 191 hanya and 115 sushang

[ornate bronze]

Peako is just like me

[spiral wolf]

nani

[ornate bronze]

My Tingyun is 161,Bronya is 160,Luocha is 155

Then my blade is 95

[frosty bane]

Slow blade enjoyer, Bronya turn is his turn

[indigo gazelle]

i dont understand how people have such high speeds on their characters

is my relic luck really that bad

[naive atlas]

Yes

It's telling you to go back to H3rd

[indigo gazelle]

i never left

[naive atlas]

I know

[carmine burrow]

can we have it to lvl 100

[tough condor]

Fr I already hit the max

[orchid hull]

Think today's the last day for double calyx in Asia server

[sand arrow]

3 days left for 30 more levels is kinda

4 days actually oops mb

[tough condor]

Still not enough for RM

Should be efficient and prioritize weeklies and other missions,dailies ez enough

[wicked thistle]

Not as crazy as not buying the battle pass, the value is insane and you get your value almost back in jades completely

[spiral wolf]

money is money and value of virtual stuff is subjective

got bp too but wouldn't say not getting it is crazy lol

[wicked thistle]

Kinda is if you're literally lvl 70, that means you play a lot.
Count the things you would get if you would get the pass and tell me it's smart to pass on it

[spiral wolf]

playing a lot can mean to compensate for the missing resource from the first 50 bp levels
i mean we are willingly passing on real life resources on a game. it's not stupid but it's not smart either it's an informed decision

[timber wyvern]

By this point some items have less use

Like credits

[wicked thistle]

Of course it wouldn't be smart if you're like lvl 20 on it but, lvl 70, that's higher then me

[timber wyvern]

Exp books when your characters are all 70/80

Weapon mats when your LCs are done

[spiral wolf]

yeah am already about to stop bp

[wicked thistle]

That is true

[timber wyvern]

BP is helpful for early stages but by the time you're maxed it starts to lose value

[spiral wolf]

erudition bp lc already s5

[wicked thistle]

But you'll probably run out of money pretty fast

What does fully building a character cost actually

[spiral wolf]

76k per day just from daily in TL70. It won't go away that fast when there's 2 teams built already

[timber wyvern]

Around 3m?

[spiral wolf]

between 4-5m I think

[wicked thistle]

Was building Bronya yesterday and started sweating when I saw the credits going away

[wicked thistle]

2 teams ain't enough for me that's for sure

[spiral wolf]

stick to level, lc, and 8/8/8 traces and you will have 2x/3x as many teams you need

the 4m-5m level investment are for "main"s

[carmine burrow]

I buy BP for limited tickets

[spiral wolf]

I "built" serval 80 + 6/6/6 it's barely 1m

[timber wyvern]

I was thinking of getting BP for the jingliu pfp but I realised I'd just swap it away for bronya when I eventually get her anyway

[spiral wolf]

that was enough for moc10 lol

[wicked thistle]

I do go over 8 for a lot of characters, but obviously not all skills

[frosty bane]

I'm not that rich so BP is equal to 2 monthly express is not a good investment for me

[spiral wolf]

which makes me realize that eventually those spare relics can carry you for any new character and they just need levels/low traces if you're not too serious about minmaxing that specific character

[wicked thistle]

I guess I'm just investing a lot more in characters, well max lvl and lc + lvl 8 trace is minimum for characters I plan to use a lot in the future

I prob have more then 15 characters fully built

[spiral wolf]

[wicked thistle]

A lot of them are 5 stars, so that adds to the cost

[spiral wolf]

i never really counted how many actually

[wicked thistle]

Alright, it's about 20💀

Next update is gonna add 3 more

[spiral wolf]

let's see... 16 level 80, 1 level 75, 1 level 70 that I consider functional either by trace or by having permanent gear, or having gears to steal from each other

[tough condor]

Tbh the only thing I spend money on this game is monthly pass

[vagrant fog]

same

[tough condor]

Pretty cheap and great value

[wicked thistle]

True

[vagrant fog]

but why its considered great value when its just made up numbers on their database

[spiral wolf]

exactly why i mentioned it's subjective

real money down, virtual resources up

then you pat yourself thinking you made a good purchase <--- past me

[wicked thistle]

Well my life is half virtual already, as most of us is so, virtual value is high

[vagrant fog]

then you pat yourself thinking you made a good purchase <-- current me

[spiral wolf]

well I still spend but I'm just more aware now

[thorn wadi]

I just use my genshin mindset in sr lol, build 8 characters that are most likely gonna be used in MoC, then just... cheese the rest I guess

[tough condor]

If I want charas in next patch I spend on monthly ,if I don't want I stop the monthly mine as easy as that

[wicked thistle]

Just 8 characters in Genshin would drive me crazy, I got bored quickly with the same characters when I was still playing

[ornate bronze]

Tbh

I have like all of my character 70-80 apart from himeko/Dan Heng/March 7th

[spiral wolf]

leveling is actually cheapest of all, but it's those damn exp books

[wicked thistle]

Damn, characters I don't plan on using I level to 20 for the pull

[ornate bronze]

The only reason why I didn't level them is ofc

Their eidolon apart from himeko

She will be build soon but not rn

[spiral wolf]

it's always the lack of exp books and not wanting to 'waste' stamina on stagnant shadow

[ornate bronze]

I haven't encountered XP problem tbh

Theyres a reason why I stop at 70/80 level

It's too expensive

[tough condor]

https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/18mxl1h/google_paying_out_630_million_to_play_store_users/ smh US player here eating good

[ornate bronze]

Me when PH user:

[wicked thistle]

But I want characters I like to be as strong as possible

[spiral wolf]

70->80 costs like

trace level 9 and 10

it's relatively so little

[wicked thistle]

💸

[safe oriole]

I usually do it for dps

Or supports that have wack ass trace at lv75

[ornate bronze]

^

[spiral wolf]

my hanya at 75 for speed trace

[ornate bronze]

They'res a reason why I haven't finished like my character at 9/9/9

Traces

[safe oriole]

I have plenty of credits anyways

Exp is an issue tho

Got like 10k a day from my Topaz support

[spiral wolf]

i stopped thinking about support credits ever since TL70

suddenly daily dumps credits at you

~~but if my fx gets borrowed i appreciate it, she's e1 btw get more cdmg ~~

[wicked thistle]

I'll probably be credit broke 1.6 tbh, when I have to build 2 5 stars and 1 4 star

[tough condor]

How did you get rich with TL70 alone

[spiral wolf]

i mean, all exp converted to credits at 1:10 ish rate or something

[safe oriole]

TL exp turns into credits

[spiral wolf]

and daily gives exp, and calyx/cavern runs also give exp, and they all become credits

[tough condor]

Dang why not stellar jades

[safe oriole]

Cope

[spiral wolf]

i mean

[wicked thistle]

It goes up fast, but can also go away really quick

[spiral wolf]

you about to get ratio'd for free

[safe oriole]

Doing expedition for character and lc exp and credits is nice

[spiral wolf]

that's huge amount of jades worth

[wicked thistle]

https://imgur.com/PoAOrNi

[fallow delta]

E1 haver

[spiral wolf]

unplanned e1. same 10 pull

[timber wyvern]

Mods?

[spiral wolf]

there's a gepard at 76 before that but imma conveniently forget about it

[carmine burrow]

mods????

[vagrant fog]

damn

Peako still in 1.3 patch

[spiral wolf]

oh right havent imported more stuff into star rail station since 1.3 either

it's all pull by feel now

[vagrant fog]

isnt in hoyolab already support this?

I saw the screenshot in here few days ago or is not implemented yet?

[spiral wolf]

no idea, i only go there to see moc stats

oh there's leveling calculator and such but i dont see if there's pull history

[vagrant fog]

oh

pull history

[spiral wolf]

oo you can add LC and have it calculate everything together

apparently ruan mei still uses the old stagnant shadow thing, good to know i can prefarm that

[vagrant fog]

Oh I misread, I thought its trace mats inventory, not pull history

I need coffee ig @ Coffee

[spiral wolf]

gotcha

[worn sable]

is that all the mat require for her and her cone ?

[spiral wolf]

yeah

[vagrant fog]

my trace mats like

[spiral wolf]

I just went with their default of level 80, 6/10/10/10 all traces, and lc level 80

[vagrant fog]

1/10 of it

[spiral wolf]

that 'soon' mat is sure a new world boss alert

[vagrant fog]

I should stop farming Relic until next week ig

[spiral wolf]

she wont be able to full trace on the first week anyways with the new world boss mat requirement so probably do 8/8/8 and lc first

or 6/6/6 even

[tough condor]

Crimson calyx mats always in need

[vagrant fog]

with my luck that always got 1 purple, even with double drop event, 2 weeks should be enough

[spiral wolf]

fiddled with it a bit, since time gated getting 9 world boss mats first week

or down to 53 purple books if you just do 6/6/6 first

[vagrant fog]

smh

timegated boss drop

[carmine burrow]

that's the hoyolab site?

[spiral wolf]

yeah

legit better than starrailstation since it auto compares to your inventory

[carmine burrow]

how the heck am I behind in Stellaris Symphony wtf

guess I am still stuck in the mine fields

[spiral wolf]

can hoyo find some other uses for these things

13k surplus lmfao

[carmine burrow]

wtf

are you farming overworld or something

[spiral wolf]

i stopped since like 1.2 lmao

[carmine burrow]

how the heck do you have 13k then lol

[spiral wolf]

SU can also give some over time to some dcent amount if you're running more than just the free weekly ig

no idea if I already had that much at that patch

[carmine burrow]

I lack 45 Stellaris Symphony for level 9 traces and max LC

doomed

[spiral wolf]

well I know will be spamming stagnant shadow for a bit over 1 day

[carmine burrow]

I got those ready like last week

well, I have 7 fuels

[spiral wolf]

hmm

[carmine burrow]

surely...

[vagrant fog]

bot

[spiral wolf]

7/7/7 or 8/8/8 max lc would probably be better for you than 9/9/9 not max lc or something, counting after you spent fuels

trace 9 and 10 are such a slog

[frosty bane]

It’s depends, trace on your support have more value than their LC last 10-20 lv

For your dps yeah max your LC first

[worn sable]

where ruan mei patch ???

[spiral tendon]

Next Wednesday?

[worn sable]

why so long ??

i wanna pull

[silent owl]

Pull now

You get characters
Not RM but no need

[sudden delta]

hmm

my JL is 9/9/9. Wonder if thats moc10 ready

[carmine burrow]

more than ready

[sudden delta]

Well

you know how last itme went

[carmine burrow]

yeah but we had sustain problem last time

[sudden delta]

I might try soon™️

if that doesnt work ill finish upgrading her skill and ult and then try upgrading TY a bit too

[vagrant fog]

my JL still 8/8/8

[sudden delta]

I'll let her skill remain 9 for now since its just extra luck

hmm ult or skill to 10 first

[carmine burrow]

skill

[orchid hull]

Either skill or talent

[vagrant fog]

BA

[orchid hull]

Her Crate is fine enough so

[carmine burrow]

skill and talent

[orchid hull]

Skill

[vagrant fog]

[tough condor]

My JL straight 10/10/10 after update

Good team but my 2nd team is where the issue lies

Need hypercarry like JL again

[sudden delta]

alright gonna get her 9/10/9

and try moc10 again

[orchid hull]

Also how is your supports's HP looking

[sudden delta]

better

well

guess I'll stream this too

[tame flint]

[sudden delta]

Wew madei t to round 2 with 27 cycles left

[carmine burrow]

brando gaming

[sudden delta]

I DID IT

[spiral wolf]

[vagrant fog]

Brando's free nitro giveaway soon

[carmine burrow]

Brando, it will be 100$ for my services. tax not included

[sudden delta]

[spiral wolf]

add 15% tip murican style

15 more dollars for BP

[vagrant fog]

enough pull for lose 50/50 on Runa banner

[thick ore]

lets goooooo

[safe oriole]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1100444920126373928/1147602591233081486/image.png?ex=659064b3&is=657defb3&hm=714f3a1d11ba57f3a5a5d26d0370d2430acbdb65af97104f8cff19064b1550f1&

Ok now call the mods

[formal vector]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-fill-his-stocking-with-coal-mods-christmas-lowtiergod-ltg-gif-12645377823045477295

[spiral wolf]

mod pls

break effect builds when relic scorer: guess i'm bad

[frosty bane]

[carmine burrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-oqWPG1_Tk

King Yuan

[formal vector]

my King

[carmine burrow]

ohh the JL is E3 lol

I was wondering where the fuck is the damage coming from

[vagrant fog]

[orchid hull]

So hmm what are Brando's units now

@sudden delta should be focusing on FX and Huohuo later on ig

[formal vector]

wtf

[vagrant fog]

isnt he already finish Moc 10?

[orchid hull]

Yee

But more comfi runs

[vagrant fog]

enouh reason to uninstall the game

I would prefer for him to upgrade the DPS relics first

instead of the support

[orchid hull]

Thinking more of sustains

[vagrant fog]

pretty sure his blade and JL need lot of improvement

[safe oriole]

Raise argenti for pure fiction

[orchid hull]

Blade tbh

His JL is fine

[carmine burrow]

we already solved the sustain

I would advise getting those quantum relics on JL

and HP relics on Blade

[orchid hull]

I use Ice set tbh

Only if weak against Quantum

[carmine burrow]

your call lol

even if there is no quantum weakness, pretty sure quantum set is still better coz of def shred stacking

[safe oriole]

I just don't like min maxing dmg that works in a specific set up

That and I skipped JL

[vagrant fog]

???

I didnt get it

isnt that like every DPS char tho?

[safe oriole]

I mean if you build JL on ice set you can build her team without SW so it's more flexible

I like my unga bunga teams

[carmine burrow]

quantum set doesn't mean you need SW

wtf

[vagrant fog]

you can give her Quantum set and no need to worry about the ele weakness???

def shred already that good

[safe oriole]

Does ice set suck that much

[kind valve]

not really

[quasi chasm]

ngl im kinda confuse on that too
a 10% def shred is better than ice dmg + free cdmg?

[silent owl]

ice beats quantum without weakness

but you could argue quantum farm is better than ice farm

[kind valve]

Wind set just suck

[orchid hull]

Tbh this

Dont wanna rely on Quantum weakness

[safe oriole]

Guards also suck if not building fx

[kind valve]

But quantum you can put into anyone

Cause the def shred

[silent owl]

quantum set is bad if it's the only def shred you have
then it gets better if you have more def shred
then if you go full shred with pela/sw/jl lc or sweat you end up overcapping so ice becomes better again

[safe oriole]

Tbh I never farmed relic domains that need both sets

[spiral wolf]

speed/hp relic domain still my home

[kind valve]

ice set good, even my blade use 2 pc ice

[safe oriole]

MODS

[vagrant fog]

wtf

[sudden delta]

I'll see how my builds work next patch

[spiral wolf]

blade is such a cold guy ice set works

[sudden delta]

For now I'll raise Argenti

[vagrant fog]

5k hp

[kind valve]

lol the lc isnt lvled

[safe oriole]

Wait for the new relic for argenti

[kind valve]

i already cleared moc 10 with it

[safe oriole]

Err and regens energy for enemies hit

[kind valve]

the phys set is alredy good on argenti cause he accumulate the stack fast

[safe oriole]

Do you think there will be a harmony that can change element type of attacks

[silent owl]

doesnt change my comment
pokke's calculating with pela (shred), sweat (more shred), and sig lc (morer shred)

[vagrant fog]

JL's sweat

[indigo gazelle]

Argenti seems quite fun to play

I take back what I said about physical eurodition

[silent owl]

also if rm takes pela's spot then what now

[spiral wolf]

just get ruan mei e1 def shread ez

[carmine burrow]

I mean I am just assuming you always partner JL with Pela anyway

so the shred stacks is always there

[silent owl]

rm can replace pela since res pen is just def shred on crack

[vagrant fog]

oh

Runa E1 is bs too

[spiral wolf]

e1 (jk about getting e1 easy btw)

[vagrant fog]

[kind valve]

Al these whales pulling for e6 rm 🧎‍♂️

[spiral wolf]

if you have hyper elite mindset might as well grab that and go pela who, but i dont really care much right now seeing so many units lined up over patches

[kind valve]

Just pull for who you like

You can clear all conyent with 4 star anyway

[carmine burrow]

pela/rm/jl for all the shreds and pen

[spiral wolf]

i do try to 4 star every patch after i do the comfy run

[kind valve]

Pro peako
Or
Po

Or

PP

[thick ore]

it does but surprisingly not that much

[safe oriole]

[thick ore]

like the difference is kinda small

which is the crazy part

[quasi chasm]

so in the end its just preference?

[kind valve]

Farming for quantum is much flexible cause the def shred bonus is universal

[spiral wolf]

it's for very productive arguments leading to probably single digit percentage increase

[kind valve]

But its whatever for me cause all of my team either use 2 p 2p, or rainbow set anywy

[vagrant fog]

can we change the other set on quantum farm become SPD set?

[quasi chasm]

*farms quantum
*change to ice
*gets better ice set first

[safe oriole]

Rainbow?

[safe oriole]

[spiral wolf]

only set so far I see huge increase was the 4p followup on king yuan

[vagrant fog]

so overall, Quantum set still better

[kind valve]

here the gears im using on blade

[thick ore]

fyi, this doesnt include one with both weaknesses

[kind valve]

here my sus gears

[thick ore]

ice, quant enemy

[vagrant fog]

MISHI

[thick ore]

but thats kinda rare

[vagrant fog]

NO

STOP

[kind valve]

who cares about set anyway

[vagrant fog]

[carmine burrow]

rainbow is good if you have all the good substat roll anyway

[kind valve]

just get good main stats and substtat

[vagrant fog]

at least put spoiler

[kind valve]

my sus 72 160

[spiral wolf]

very sus

[quasi chasm]

me
all my chara is either 2p x3 or 4p relic/2p planet

[thick ore]

i mean 2pc 2pc is fine tbh for the most part as long as the substats are really good.. there isnt really a good 4pc relic effect so far. except for quant, FUA set and the DoT set

[tough condor]

am reaching TL70 for a day now without me knowing

[kind valve]

Go rainbow like me coffe

[tough condor]

idk how im coming from poor fuck 100k to 1M creds that fast

[quasi chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/omaru-polka-holo-no-graffiti-hologra-hololive-no-gif-20740013

[carmine burrow]

4pc hacker in the distance messing with speed tune

[kind valve]

Oh i do have two unit that use 4p
Serval full break and ty full cowboy

[spiral wolf]

2p speed my beloved, it's everywhere

[kind valve]

honestly the colour composition are really nice

[fallow delta]

Its a bit different than the one in prydwen

[silent owl]

2pc spd with 30 cv each piece

[vagrant fog]

just get both set, duh

[spiral wolf]

nice discussion over 3% difference

[vagrant fog]

so no need to compare

[silent owl]

prydwen calculates solo character
it matches the condition in the last sentence; quant becomes ~4% weaker without other shreds

[vagrant fog]

[spiral wolf]

[fallow delta]

Oh that’s true

[safe oriole]

Just erase JL the cause of this nonsense

[vagrant fog]

erase quantum set

[thick ore]

because these include units

[kind valve]

Erase seele and bronya

And sw too

[vagrant fog]

erase urself, mishi

[fallow delta]