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#Path of Exile
tight kiln
grace - eternal blessing
bro can even make it work with 300c
I used Purity of Elements early on so we could focus on dex/attribute suffixes but you would ideally use grace (or haste but this doesn't scale our damage)
this should be your first upgrade
holy pathing lmao
covert frigate
I think it does work actually
tight oak
interesting to note he does not go with precise technique
then again we're using a spine bow since 2d is way too low to make a good widowhail build
so it makes sense
covert frigate
Wjat supports should i put on LA?
Trinity + returning + mirage archer + projectile speed
Is that good?
tight oak
yes except for proj speed
covert frigate
Even tho i have the mastery that inceases dmg withnproj speed?
tight oak
yes
covert frigate
What should be the 5th then?
tight oak
because projectile speed is an increase to your damage
which is abysmal dogshit compared to every other damage support gem that you could put that either adds flat damage or is a more modifier
it'd be adding 100% increased damage when you already are above 600% increased
vs multiplying 500% by 1.35x
covert frigate
Flat is better than increase?
tight oak
easily
covert frigate
Which support gives more?
tight oak
flat gets amplified by every damage modifier you have
are you crit
and if you are what is your crit chance
covert frigate
Damn i need to get b-r-g-g-g craft
covert frigate
What should i be looking for on the gloves?
tight oak
attack speed, life, resists
probably mana as well
indigon sold
time to full send the sale of my items
covert frigate
Failed my first Temple
Despite my best efforts, this build is just too squishy
Keep getting insta teleport one shotted
covert frigate
attack speed, life, resists
Bruh atk speed is so expensive, 5% costs 5 chaos
tight oak
oh angormus
i'm in a discord with that guy
damn it wasn't even close
also lmao at 4th being fucking level 39
honestly im amazed that 4th and 5th had time to do their ascendancy
tight oak
Bruh atk speed is so expensive, 5% costs 5 chaos
then don't use it and get more defenses
or have an open suffix to craft
blissful plume
huh? i thought the race was during 0.2 release?
tight kiln
Flat is better than increase?
flat is before all the multipliers. so if your flat is high, it gets amplified by all the multipliers you have
tight oak
jesus christ
i have mageblood on live search and this guy logged on
and has 20 magebloods listed for sale
toxic wing
affliction printing
They should print them some more 
What was the quote again
abuse often and fast
tight oak
respec complete
tight kiln
splitting steel?
tight oak
ls
blissful plume
why no 5th flask?
tight kiln
blissful plume
oh not allie's bait kbolt of frag
tight oak
why no 5th flask?
didn't have a prismatic tincture in my stash
allie's build was kinetic blast...
this is kbolt with his like 250-300d int stacking wand
also this is someone with a brain inbetween their ears
blissful plume
Really? I keep seeing ppl trash allie and fragmentation
Does kb have fragmentation too?
tight oak
no one trashed the gem either cause palsteron made an actually functional version of the literal same build
people just trashed her cause she's an idiot
blissful plume
Yeah I meant ppl were trashing her kbolt fragmentation build
Don't remember them mentioning kb and her together in the same sentence
tight oak
tl;dr her build sucked cause she thought kboclustering does like 50x hits per second, got called out on it by rue, talked shit about rue mentioning he doesn't understand poe (blatantly wrong)
everyone with any experience with the game could tell her build was dogwater, still gained a lot of traction so a bunch of new players (poe 2 visitors especially) tried it and wow, it sucks
insane mental gymnastics to claim to be the best at optimizing builds aside from Ben too
maybe i should make a list of build guide creators that you can actually follow reliably based on experience with the game
tight oak
honestly that whole situation was weird
cause the guy with the apothecaries actually did send the message on stream that she could keep an apothecary
and then complained about it on another stream
like asking to keep one is one thing, very easily could be a joke
actually keeping it is cornball behavior
i dislike almost every single sctrade content creator for that reason
they're all cut from the same cloth really, some just turn out worse
if i had to rate top 3 for sctrade it's like mathil, fuzzy duckzy, jungroan or rue
tight kiln
the guy also admitted to being a simp
it was one of the best crossovers
cutedog and asmongold
tight kiln
OH SHIT
blissful plume
rich
tight kiln
its a poe2 teaser
tight kiln
honestly shouldve went for this
but nvm flicker is fun
i should try this but i need more levels and my void stones
tight kiln
nice
tight kiln
new sword!
raw crag
Ice Bite
blissful plume
That too
raw crag
Snagging a cheap, relevant +1 Frenzy ring w/ Kalandra is going to be the biggest boon for you
Better now while they're still somewhat 'cheap' than when they're minimum 50↑ div
vapid crow
Wait so what happens to character on phrecia after the event ends
tight kiln
it goes to a standard league
then the next league you start fresh from zero again
full economy reset
you find a league starter again, climb from act 1 to maps all over again
it used to happen every 3 months
new league = new meta, new balance changes, new events to do, new challenges for cosmetics etc
standard league = long running league with 2 billion broken items from the past, only gets new stuff when the event league ends and the changes gets ported to it
oh shit
3.26 in June
blissful plume
Which June, they didn't mention the year
Wonder what the numbers will be like when .2 resets, will there be enough interest to keep running campaign to reach maps
blissful plume
but towers will have more variations
eventually its all league mechanics spawning in the towers
tight kiln
Which June, they didn't mention the year
heavy blaze
if we wait 4 month we have 1 year no new league
blissful plume
eventually it'll be 2 years no new league then 5 years no new league
blissful plume
what's the diff between urs and his?
toxic wing
Was this announced recently?
blissful plume
Today
tight oak
the problem with towers isn't that it didn't have league mechanics
its going to be even worse now that it has mechanics actually
cause now towers are able to eat your tablets
it doesnt prevent towers from being terrible layouts, unrewarding, making the efficient move to be spend 2 hours running garbage maps so you can have half an hour of good maps
blissful plume
It's part of Jonathan's vision for a live service game going forward so padding the time played for that dopamine rush increases the chance someone buys mtx
tight kiln
nvm i have no idea what theyre talking about
poe drama in a nutshell
im a better build maker than you
Rue was originally trying to say his and Fubs map difficulty was the same, so his build was better than Fubs due to Rue's being considerably cheaper while able to complete maps of the "same" difficulty. Fub was making the point their maps were in fact NOT the same difficulty - ruetism ensued, arguing the wrong point then repeatedly ignoring requests for Rue to load one of his maps for Fub to see the difficulty of, and failing to understand how comparison works
covert frigate
lmao
tight kiln
fucking cutedog man
tight kiln
@tight oak what was your breach set up again? i wanna try some minimum addition to my exarch idols
covert frigate
Lmao i just realized i had arctic armour in my mfa support link instead of ensnaring arrow
covert frigate
Second div dropped
covert frigate
i think Idols are a pretty fun experiment
Atlas Tree is still the better system, but Idols are kinda interesting to play around with
tight oak
<@148143018778689537> what was your breach set up again? i wanna try some minimu...
Its uhh
Kinda needs like all of the idol space you have lol
It shouldnt be expensive at all but it eats up space
Is to stack 5% bosses drop stones, 5% stones drop flawless, scarabs are 1x breachlord rest breach
tight kiln
Is to stack 5% bosses drop stones, 5% stones drop flawless, scarabs are 1x breac...
Do you have the dimensions. Like 2x2 conquerer etc.
Because rn im only use 2 1x3
The rest are 1x1 since im running exarch
In 2 days of casual farming i literally farmed like 12 divines of grand exarch orbs lmao
tight kiln
i think Idols are a pretty fun experiment
Its fucking ass if you need to buy it from people. Took me fucking 1 and half hours to buy my exarch set
Im too stupid to resolve attacks so i might swap builds again
Probably back to a minion build.
covert frigate
Its fucking ass if you need to buy it from people. Took me fucking 1 and half ho...
Yeh its fun as an experiment mode, but long term, itll be ass
Its annoying to either rely on rng or buy from people to do the strat you want
tight kiln
you gotta recomb your own strat too
i managed to push through and do like
5mil dps which is enough for t16s
so im farming t15s and t16s now with 2 void stones.
but idk how to resolve or gear up from there so im probably just farming and then switching builds.
tight oak
Do you have the dimensions. Like 2x2 conquerer etc.
4 2x2s, 4 3x1s if you want flawless, smaller ones for biasing towards chayula
tight kiln
liquidated some shit and got like 7 div + 12 div of grand exarch ichor now
tight oak
you can drop flawless if you want more chayula bias/duping
tight kiln
4 2x2s, 4 3x1s if you want flawless, smaller ones for biasing towards chayula
Ah fuck you need 4 2x2 huh.
covert frigate
holy fuck, would it kill GGG to put a few more life nodes on the Ranger side of the tree?
im getting one shotted by an elite's insta teleport attack from offscreen
no telegraph, no time to react
just instant death
going into yellow maps with 2k HP
tight kiln
hm?
your gear?
i have like 5 uniques gears with no hp stat and i got 3.6k hp
might as well swap to this
but you dont like totems
covert frigate
im alr planning to switch to LS
tight kiln
oh right
LS is easyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
when essence is harder than uber bosses
tight oak
a tale as old as time
also you should have like actually double your current HP with ease going into yellow maps wtf
covert frigate
i guess i could find more max HP mods on my gear but havent had any good drops that have both max HP and give enough ele res
but its fine, im in the process of buying gears to transition into LS anyway
blissful plume
<@148143018778689537> holy essaying. what you think. <:kekw:772035632620896267>
tourists realising everything they have isn't permanent
tight kiln
📌 🔹 Solution 1: “Persistent League” – A New Unified Game Mode
✅ Players can keep their characters, items, and assets across multiple seasons.
✅ Each new season introduces new mechanics and challenges without forcing players to restart.
✅ Players who want a fresh start can opt into a “Hard Reset” mode, but it’s not mandatory.
so infinite power creep to the point you have 60000AAAAAA dps like those mobile idle games
blissful plume
>
> 📌 🔹 Solution 1: “Persistent League” – A New Unified Game Mode
> ✅ Players...
that's just standard
you get the new league stuff after it ends
if they decide to let it go core
tight oak
bro is managing to identify and problem solve non-issues
meanwhile the actual problems off to the side
blissful plume
because to them, those actual problems aren't problems for them
they probably love that those problems exist
tight oak
the endgame should literally be
that you can setup your ideal set of maps by being in hideout
that way when you feel like grinding you can run them all in burst
instead of "okay path to your towers from the edges, clear all garbage maps, set your ideal tablets, maybe roll RNG on which maps get buffed, do this for all nearby towers"
on top of still having to roll your maps anyway
oh and also the maps in question may have dogshit layout
no "wtb dunes x72" for you
tight oak
it's the main reason why "div/hour" is so common to see in poe 1
and practically not at all with poe 2
with poe 1, follow the exact steps and you can match whatever map strategy someone is running
with poe 2, well your layouts are trash, your atlas is wack, your towers are all spaced out, reset your account bro
tight kiln
tight oak
poe 2 took a lot of player agency out of the endgame
and ggg is tunneled in on their vision that they can't see how much it sucks for literally everyone playing it
evident with them doubling down on the mechanic
we don't need variety
we need freedom of choice
same thing can be said about atlas tree vs idols
idols open up infinitely more strategies, disregarding that many are vastly superior to others
tight oak
but atlas puts the choice in players' hands to remove variety from the game
so they can do the content they like
tight kiln
it should be like cluster jewel for atlas.
tight oak
no
it should just be modifiable with unmakings as chaos orbs, balance adjustments would be for if they actually care to make it a core mechanic
it's not like chaos spam would even be bad for it either
tight kiln
true
tight oak
chaos spam until you get 1 mod you like, recombinate up to 2 mods, get another and recombinate up to 3 mods, etc until you have 4 mod 2x2s/3x1s, 3 mod 2x1/1x1s
tight oak
that was disregarding atlas
with atlas you can't have more than 8 idol spaces at max
even 8 is a lot with 2 conquerors
or being able to force maraketh legions all day
god there's also just
using a bunch of small idols to bias into diviner boxes
printing t0 div cards
blissful plume
poe 2 took a lot of player agency out of the endgame
its their new vision "Retention Mechanics"
tight oak
ah yes
My favorite player retention design
Keeping said player in tower jail to do their time before they are allowed to see a tink
covert frigate
?? why are all these half pathed
Some of them are for stats so i can wear the current gear, others are stuff for LS that im preemptively grabbing
Cause the LA guide im following is done in terms of passive tree
tight kiln
Cause the LA guide im following is done in terms of passive tree
i see. i got regrets for you if you need. since they are basically worthless and im farming exarch altars so i get a lot of it
covert frigate
I should be able to re-spec with gold
Probably have enough
Ill prob need like 20 refund points to respec asc which i should have
covert frigate
Lmao
Regrets are extra worthless this event cause atlas tree doesnt exist so can't even convert them to orb of unmaking
tight kiln
nah atlar farming drops too many
covert frigate
i cant believe ggg fucking added a battlepass to POE1
and the free rewards are ass
tight kiln
oh
its been oput for like
4 or 5 leagues now
they cant p2w too much
its mainly for the cosmetics honestly.
im glad i spent like 400 chaos on my idols.
covert frigate
free reward doenst even give cosmetics
tight kiln
51c in 1 map
covert frigate
honestly, its better if they didnt even add battlepass
but hey, gotta fund POE2 development somehow
tight kiln
POG
tight kiln
oh right shit i just realized i get free aggressive
i think its time to play zombies.
gleaming palm
X
blissful plume
its not the resets?
tight kiln
what
blissful plume
aren't the majority of new players turned off by the idea of the league resets?
tight kiln
who cares
tight oak
if they are then the very concept of poe 2 was flawed to begin with
league resets are the lifeblood of ARPGs
toxic wing
i doubt a reset will do anything tbh
if it's just a new class and some new weapon skills
it's still the same tower sht and loot/crafting system
full haven
Anyone want to join the Dark Side of POE?
blissful plume
RMT?
toxic wing
Le?
tight kiln
Bro just dropped a question with no answer and left.
covert frigate
same as what Palpatine did to get Anakin to fall to the Dark Side
full haven
Well if anyone wants to join the dark side, dm me, assuming you can make 20+ or more divs a day
heavy blaze
toxic wing
tight oak
you can make 20d in the same day you make your first character
phrecia or not
also this edgy ass question
tight kiln
I think i made more than 20 div farming for osin in settlers lol
blissful plume
u got a mirror in settlers no?
tight oak
i never play long enough to get a mirror
burn out too easily from the sctrade rat race
gonna start committing myself to gsf 40/40s instead
full haven
I stopped caring about 4040s recently
but i did get to 36/40 just so i get the portal
and the finisher
toxic wing
are any of you playing the poe 2 patch/le?
oh right le got delayed i forgot just poe then
blissful plume
theres nothing new for poe2 still same towers
tight kiln
are any of you playing the poe 2 patch/le?
Waiting for patch notes
If theres no changes then imma stick to hero siege
blissful plume
toxic wing
Off with their heads! Get the Executioner's Guillotine Unique Finisher Effect for free by tuning into GGG Live at 12pm on March 27th (PDT).
You will get the Executioner's Guillotine Unique Finisher Effect after 2 hours of accumulated watch time on any channel with drops enabled streaming Path of Exile 2 during the event
not sure if it carries over to poe 1
tight oak
i would love to play le
but le has had so many non-gameplay issues for me that makes me not particularly keep up with it
server issues aside even, i had an issue that went unresolved that would softlock me at reign of dragons
just wouldn't load at all, even though every other timeline/monolith/echo was fine
also had an issue with enemies not rendering
i had to kill a boss that was literally invisible, no health bar no model
also i'mma be honest
LE has way too many affixes that are boring
poe has so many cool affixes like adding links, curse on hit, charge-stuff, projectile count, stat stacking, you get the idea
tight kiln
Unless LE end game changes i dont think im touching it
Also having fun playing hero siege even though i have no fucking idea what im doing
tight kiln
blissful plume
Last altar?
tight kiln
no he picked wrong
tight kiln
i dont think anyone is still playing phrecia 
oh ye
when is the live stream for poe2
blissful plume
27th
blissful plume
Off with their heads! Get the Executioner's Guillotine Unique Finisher Effect fo...
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toxic wing
Is it even profitable at this point of the league
tight kiln
ice trap takes 0.5 seconds to kill an uber
and its not even nerfed for like 10 leagues already
ice trap has been the most broken uber boss killer for so many leagues already lmao
also rmt-ing will get you banned so
tight kiln
well to join him you need to be able to farm more than 20 divs a day
make it 20 mirrors a day maybe
toxic wing
20 mirrors
Woudn't that just be from fee's
Or like actually dropping 20 mirrors
Since they have crafters as well
You would need to be a mirror crafter first ofc
tight kiln
i think you can easily get mirrors a day with phrecia since its so unhinged with idols
buying or selling
i mean if you're selling good on you
i guess
no
what is sirius
i dont even know what a mirror is
full haven
I guess thres not a lot of Holofans that knows how to play the game. so i guess ill just give up
toxic wing
Chris didn't bless our drops when he left so we didn't get lucky
blissful plume
Also not as popular as diablo 4 the better game
full haven
Righttttt
Once you start making 100-500divs per day the game becomes small - imo
the biggest crafters can make more than 500divs a day so they have it better
full haven
You stop caring about a lot of things and just focus on RMT-ing. lol
toxic wing
Just look at belton and how much currency they need for a 'basic' project
full haven
Belton cant do stuff alone so he doesnt count for me.
He could - but that would take more time for him so he has ants with him
toxic wing
I mean even sushi has ppl helping him
Jenubu has an entire team
And so on
Empy's crafter is pretty good as well but he also gets currency funneled to him
full haven
true true
I gatekeep every information i have about the game since i dont plan on making content on yt about poe
full haven
so no degenerate veterans over here huh? they are all on the official server
tight kiln
i just aim to have 1 mageblood and 1 mirror tier item per league now
and finish 36/40
full haven
Do you farm or make?
tight kiln
farm
i dont farm fast since im working
so
if you want my settler's character, which is about 2 mirrors?
full haven
my build costs like 400divs and can kill sirus instantly.
tight kiln
im too lazy to go beyond this
full haven
Like 1tap.
full haven
i dont like mapper builds that costs more than 500divs
Ice trappers cannot kill sirus instantly
no one has done it
I've tried asking the first person on the ice trap ranking and he said he cant
tight kiln
its still trap
lol
i mean you probably cant ever do it without phrecia ascendencies
full haven
no that was Settlers
tight kiln
unless its a bug?
full haven
it takes me 1 minute to kill sirus
tight kiln
probably a bug
full haven
35 seconds of his dialogue and then 25 seconds to walk and get to his area - no seconds to kill him instantly. lol
tight kiln
i dont think its ever intended for sirius to die 1st phase ever
full haven
and the build did not cost a mirror
tight kiln
its probably some interaction with phrecia ascendency
people do spreadsheets on this game for a living
im not surprised if other people also has the same strat as you and, same as you, dont intend to share with others
full haven
I didnt play Phrecia because I determined I could not do it with Phrecia ascendencies
tight kiln
i know a lot of CN people are like that
probably an undiscovered bug then
since nobody uses the trap you're using
lightning trap?
full haven
who knows?
full haven
Anyways - I have not seen a build that could do what i can do
tight kiln
not in my scope anyway so have fun i guess
full haven
But I do plan on sharing it once poe1 is discontinued or the build itself is nerfed to the ground
tight kiln
i doubt
the only functioning trap build ever used for bossing is ice trap
if you found something else then ye
full haven
I wanted a build i can boss and map on - this gem was the one
and of course- kill everything instantly
full haven
true at least it does keep me off of working. lol
tight kiln
i know countries that you like
earn more doing rmt than actual work
thats because the country economy is fucked so i cant blame a guy doing it for a living
full haven
What if the person just hates people so much he tried to find a way to avoid working lol
tight kiln
same different you're still finding a way to earn money
i know some russian dude's story that him doing rmt for warframe so much he managed to move out of russia and got himself through university
i can respect that
full haven
I just use the money to upgrade my PC and buy crypto
tight kiln
game the system
i just play poe while having a video on the side watching and then meme with people from Cutedog's server
full haven
Cutedog unfortunately acts dumb to get his viewers talking which feels shitty.
full haven
yea true
tight kiln
he is just dumb for stream but hes a good guy overall.
full haven
Since most people want now is just purely entertainment since most people are worker ants
toxic wing
Atleast he's not a cat
full haven
Unlike streamers
tight kiln
nah
tight kiln
Atleast he's not a cat
at least hes not allie
"WATCH THIS IM GONNA DO SO MUCH DAMAGE"
"OKAY THERE ARE SOME RNG INVOLVED"
toxic wing
I don't even count allie as one tbh
full haven
is that another streamer?
tight kiln
ye
toxic wing
She just steals and puts her name on it
full haven
I don't follow POE streamers at all.
its all the same, make currency, act stupid, gain views, gain fame
tight kiln
basically drama happened about 1 year ago where she took someone's day 1 20 div, never returned the guy, and then steal apocatheries on stream
just yoink it for herself.
toxic wing
This league she put out a sht build
tight kiln
then recently she wanted to show case a build with mageblood and shit and does lesser damage than a 20c build
full haven
I'm just glad Kaela stopped playing poe2 lel
tight kiln
The kb build right
nah
full haven
I dont want any of the girls to play poe
full haven
but with the new league coming... they might
toxic wing
Depends on thr patch
full haven
they might want to "try out" the new classes after all
toxic wing
The*
Hayama for example no lifed monk
And quit after that
Some other ones i have seen said something along the lines of needing a huge update with a lot of content/changes for them to come back
full haven
I expect 2 new classes to come in, a Spearwoman and the druid
the spearwoman might have a trapper class - so thats where i will make my insta killer build.
if the new trapper ascendency works the same as traps in poe1
If not, then I will stick with Poisonous concoction.
full haven
I dont want to infest my youtube with POE stuff
tight kiln
her drama made one of the best crossovers ever with asmongold and cutedog
so i gotta thank her for that
full haven
There was a live where a lot of the viewers thought it was gonna be some news related to new content
I told them it was just some race, a lot of people left.
full haven
RIP poe1 lol
toxic wing
RIP poe1 lol
i mean they weren't going to extend the temp event anyways
did they show annything good so far
gleaming palm
quite alot of stuffs
kinda overwhelm abit KEKW
so 6 portals per map
but the harder the lesser portal u have
full haven
as of yet, I dont know since we dont see the uniques so nothing that benefits me yet
Lots of things i can take advantage of but I need a new GPU to fully enjoy POE2, currently Im having Restart issues due to my GPU's driver issues.
i was ready to scrub off but i need to get that free finisher effect. lol need to watch for 2 hours
full haven
Gotta need to wait for the Patch notes before I can determine which build I should play.
blissful plume
Looks like they fixed poe2 endgame
Looks like an easy 1 million players for launch
tight oak
Looks like they fixed poe2 endgame
lol
blissful plume
I just want to see reactions to the ggg patented triple prong nerfs
spiral yew
oo new league
blissful plume
Or they hid those changes to mitigate lower numbers
tight kiln
@blissful plume bro. 17th april TLI anniversary lmao
blissful plume
<@184964626897698816> bro. 17th april TLI anniversary lmao
tight kiln
yah i saw
blissful plume
What's the timelines for poe2 and LE again?
blissful plume
Did LE not announce changes to their endgame?
tight kiln
nope
not that i am aware of
as long as they dont do changes to end game im not playing it lmao
heavy blaze
i saw a mount we playing monhun now??
missed the livestream 
no skilleffect for me
so hunt is just torment in disguise
tight kiln
ritualist is insane
1 free ring slot
25% increased effect of rings and amulet
- ingenuity
heavy blaze
time for patchnotes i hope they nerf MF
get me out of this shit also hope they nerf temporalis + stats stacker in the endgame almost everyone was playing gem legionnaire
tight oak
we at least had an alternative
heavy blaze
oh it seem there will be again no currency sinking for divinve so if you make money buy early divine since they not gonna leave the market
tight oak
and it got shot immediately cause jung was playing it
heavy blaze
oh and "crafting" with recombi more like slot machine
toxic wing
<:FaunaTired:880281440129015838> get me out of this shit also hope they nerf tem...
The temporalis mafia will not be happy
Did they nerf the monk a lot btw?
heavy blaze
Spark gonna die again
good let other skills shine spark meta was kinda boring.
kinda excited for spectre are there anybroken ones 
blissful plume
good let other skills shine spark meta was kinda boring.
What other skills are there to be used on elementalist if they follow their usual patterns and not try to make the other spells better
tight oak
the reason spark meta existed is cause it was the only spell worth self-casting iirc
like there were a few spells that were fine but ended up just being trigger stuff to scale
made me very sad every time i wanted to swap to a different spell, tried different combinations, and it was just slow and bad for dps
blissful plume
the reason spark meta existed is cause it was the only spell worth self-casting ...
That's what I meant
Elementalist will be dead in the water if they don't try to buff the numbers for the othe spells
tight kiln
im gonna go necromancer again
uh
the fire lady
i forgot
because spectres is back and we play pure spectres
blissful plume
Not hexblast lich?
blissful plume
the fire lady
Infernalist?
heavy blaze
time to play huntress and just throw lightning spear like in D2 with the amazoness
toxic wing
Not sure yet if i want to risk playing the new classes/weapon types
heavy blaze
https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1jldmjr/heralds_do_not_chain_from_each_other_anymore/
yes
what you can pick the stats you want to recombine
time to buy all good %phys and flat phys weapon and slap them together and pray 
blissful plume
<:KoyoriWao:914546487407546408> what you can pick the stats you want to recombin...
And it just gets more and more impossible to combine with each stat you recombinate
tight oak
X
blissful plume
no more ruthless updates
covert frigate
so what do you guys think about the new POE2 upcoming changes? they seem decent, but rare maps still only giving you 1 try is characteristically stupid for GGG
tight oak
1 death lose map still isn't inherently the issue
it's just the most noticeable frustration caused by the things that are problematic in every regard
aka bad layouts/maps, dying to dead enemies, performance issues, things of that nature
if those problems didn't exist, 90% of people complaining about losing a map from dying would be whining about their own skill/build issues
blissful plume
Poe2 was supposed to be a slow game but the only thing slow are the players while mobs can just zoom u down and block u from evading
tight oak
i move faster in poe1's campaign than any gemling legionnaire character
fucking diablo 2 characters run faster than they do
and their zones are smaller
blissful plume
Being slow in poe2 is fine if the mobs also didn't have inbuilt haste
I just hate how they said it was all about slowing the players down and then they let the mobs move at poe1 speeds
Especially with 1 portals
blissful plume
I just hate their conflicting design philosophy
Why are there still 1 shots and on death effects when you've already done as much as you can to make players engage with the mobs
toxic wing
1 death lose map still isn't inherently the issue
Isn't the problem now that with rare maps you cant tp out anymore duo to the 1 portal thing?
Atleast not being able to take out loot more than once for juiced maps seems kinda bad
blissful plume
Also the new 1 portal don't let you portal out with loot
So your super juiced full of loot maps can only ever fill up 1 inventory worth of space
Ggg knows about it but its not a priority
covert frigate
theyre also forcing the player to slow down and expect player to avoid all mobs auto attack yet still make tons of mobs have unavoidable attacks
on death effect still turn the game into a bullet hell
its so weird, how many people are "directing" POE2?
blissful plume
Only Jonathan
Poe2 is a ggg vs players game
If they don't keep killing u and resetting ur progress, they've failed
tight kiln
tight oak
Isn't the problem now that with rare maps you cant tp out anymore duo to the 1 p...
Yeah its bad
Idk why theyre doing that
covert frigate
Tbf i alr never tp out in poe1 cause i always worry random lag are gonna kill me and i run out of portals
blissful plume
Idk why theyre doing that
To lengthen retention
Also if you get screwed over by connection issues, it's a you problem and not ggg's
blissful plume
Honestly no idea what they're thinking with not letting people portal out to vendor or stash especially in EA and shitty connection
Not like their network architecture is infallible
copper mortar
tight kiln
Also if you get screwed over by connection issues, it's a you problem and not gg...
We have made the following change to address this problem:
You will now be able to enter and exit your Maps as much as you like as long as you haven't died. The number of portals is now representative of the number of revives you have during the Map, so if you are able to survive you can come and go as you please.
INSANE
blissful plume
Honestly why didn't just have it do that at the start?
Now it looks like they compromised their VISION to player feedback like with poe1
heavy blaze
Imagine you open a map and died outside the map and map gone
tight kiln
lich is so broken?
what the fuck?
41% of damage bypasses energy shield
so long as 59% of damage taken does not remove all energy shield, you literally negate 41% of all hit damage taken.
if you play CI you flat out negate 41% of all hit taken
all dot bypass energy shield
you are now immortal to bleed, corrupted blood, ignite as CI
tight kiln
doesnt matter im getting MoM
4% magnitude of unholy might per 100 mana
get 5K mana
now you get 200% increased magnitude of unholy might on your minions
frost mages now get 60% of all damage as extra chaos
blissful plume
So basically mana stackers still gonna dominate again
tight kiln
yes
archmage lich with unholy might might be more insane than stormweaver
despair + wither on hit
blissful plume
Are people theorycrafting this in a public space that the ggg devs are also in?
tight kiln
ghazzy just made avid
theres also a 2 hour talk between rue, jungroan and fubgun which i havent listened to
toxic wing
kuo go make some op lich builds for us 
tight kiln
im going minions as usual
because raise spectre
i mean
you just run
arsonist + srs as usual
you literally cruise through all acts
then from there depending if you wanna continue arsonist or frost mages
blissful plume
But spectres cost spirit too and it looks quite high
toxic wing
there is gonna be that talk with ghazzy and dm and jonathan as well
forgot what it's called
blissful plume
Is it a gem? Thought it was an innate ability
toxic wing
oh thought it was limited to her
they prob got rid of proximity shield and so on
cause it'd be too op on players
tight kiln
huntress skill is the headhunter buff
blissful plume
Nah it probably there but it never gets cast as a spectre
tight kiln
you tame beast
tame an aura mob for your minions
EZ
drop lightning ground periodically
blissful plume
We don't know if the beast consumes spirit right
toxic wing
they prob will
tight kiln
see if the trailer consume spirit
its an "aura"
probably 30 spirit
not too bad honestly
toxic wing
depends on how it scales ig
they were gonna ask jonathan and so on on that podcast about costs
not sure if it was spirit or mana costs though
tight kiln
definitely spirit
crossbows now uses 2h mods instead of 1h
why isnt this a thing from before wtf?
all xbow gems have higher scaling per level now
toxic wing
i mean
the acendancy bosses in the third and fourth one had double the hp before
there is a lot of stuff they fixed for the upcoming patch
toxic wing
there were broken ascendancies?
blissful plume
I mean blood mage first ascendancy did fuck all but kill u right
toxic wing
yeah fair enough
blissful plume
Also had to juggle life and mana due to the life costs being additional instead of replacing
covert frigate
well that explains the poor performance
i wanna know if he asked Jonathan about why the game design seems to clash with it self
tight kiln
well that explains the poor performance
Johnathan explained it on ziggyd's video
They have a work around now but they are still trying to fix performance problems
1hr 48 minute mark
blissful plume
MF nerfed but with diminishing returns so we probably need 300% MF now
toxic wing
i wanna know if he asked Jonathan about why the game design seems to clash with ...
NERFS
- Random nerf mentions: Mana, Ingenuity, Energy Shield
- Magic Find nerfed (more diminishing returns, extreme values removed e.g. Mahuxotl), maybe more changes
- Temporalis no longer fully removes blink cooldown, x10 more rare
- Crit: Maybe nerfs down the line
- Pace of the game: Similar to before, just high end reduced
- Difficulty & reward scaling: Diminishing returns on both (e.g. stacked rares/essences)
- Random future probable nerf mentions: Hammer of the Gods
ENDGAME
- Pinnacle bosses twice as easy to access, half HP at diff. 0, ramping more
- Map objectives: Kill all rares here to stay for now, but boss maps need only boss, extra content also displayed just for info
- Map drops: Final rare drops one, boss always drops one +1 tier
- New unique tablet: Run maps in radius twice (once with irradiate)
- Rogue Exiles: Appear from act 4+, in 1 in 12 maps, uniques have some lvl requirement as for players, no boss uniques
- Atlas changes: Some improvements (less disconnected maps), more later (besides new content)
- Azmerian Wisps: Should be fast and consistent enough in influencing monsters
MISC
- Patch notes Thursday (maybe Wed), many last minute changes
- On death effects: In general here to stay, but want to address unfair situations
- Downleveling gems: No plans, rather make high lvl matter
- Recombinators: Seems more like mid-tier gear crafting (getting perfect near impossible)
- Resistance swaps: "that's what runes are for"
- Mana costs: lower scaling per lvl for attacks (9% instead of 12%)
- Monsters pushing players around: It should feel physically correct, maybe adjustments later
- Monster energy shield is now accurate and not super inflated
- Cross weapon skills: Generally no, but exceptions exist (e.g. marks) or from uniques
- Active block likely getting a rework later
- Jeweler's Orbs: higher drop rates, no longer requires previous steps
- Hardcore: Even in leagues, dead chars now go to SC league
UI/QoL
- Filters: want to add filtering by tier (rare items)
- Visibility of elites: blues having no indicator is a problem, rares improvements planned
- Delirium fog clutter massively reduced
- Passive tree search feature: improvements planned on UI
ASCENDANCIES & SKILLS
- Ascendancy skills: Quality exists because it can be buffed from items, weapon set choice added later
- Amazon Critical Strike: Base crit, scalable with increases
- Amazon Penetrate: Just added flat like a ring roll
- Ritualist: Ring slot "just works" with (nerfed) Ingenuity
- Tactician Supporting Fire: Not actually a real minion, just scales like one
- Smith of Kitava Temper Weapon: "should last for a while"
- Smith of Kitava Manifest Weapon: Not a spirit skill, it uses some special ability
- Smith of Kitava Fire Spell on Hit: Similar to trigger skills with energy build-up
- Lich Eternal Life: Maybe immortal, maybe not (godmode will be nerfed if it exists)
- Lich 5% Mana Loss/sec: Should be current mana, not max.
- Lich Jewel socket: Should work with Adorned jewel (on tree)
- Missing Skeletal Warriors in skill list: probably just a bug
- Spectre & Tame Beast: if not on launch, then shortly after can be reverted back to base gem to re-use
- No boss Spectres
someone made a summary of the tavern talk if you're too lazy to watch
gleaming palm
thanks
toxic wing
MF nerfed but with diminishing returns so we probably need 300% MF now
it wasn't jonathan but the other guy that said that mf over or close to 1000% is basicly useless iirc
since at a certain point you're at a hard cap and don't really gain as much even if you add like 100-300 extra %
spiral yew
oo nice
toxic wing
they also did tests for extra map objectives and the ppl that tested it were basicly like just give us the kill rare mobs lol
spiral yew
No boss Spectres
aw
toxic wing
they initally had stuff like clear an expedition
spiral yew
toxic wing
prob too op
blissful plume
Imagine boss quad arm monkey 1 shotting rares for u with no investment
blissful plume
it wasn't jonathan but the other guy that said that mf over or close to 1000% is...
Yeah I meant more MF to hit the cap because they only added more DR and didn't change how much MF affected drops and currency
You still need MF but now you probably need more than 100% MF to hit 50% MF previously
Early maps will still feel bad without MF
blissful plume
MF breakpoints probably gonna be figured out within the first 2 days
toxic wing
If standard gets it as well could be sooner
Depends on the sample size and how much ppl test it
spiral yew
with how all hardcore player has MF on gear, it probably take few hours after server goes live for people to know the break point
blissful plume
People probably buying low MF gear too
tight oak
>the difference between 400% rarity and 800% rarity is like 3% in drops
the difference between 500% mf and 900% mf in d2 is actually zero
it's probably going to be almost identical diminishing returns
so fitting 150-250% mf is like the sweet spot
with that being said, my interest in poe 2 despite the season was already low but now it's borderline zero
i'll still be on for launch to check out new weapons and gems
but like, pd2 s11 is set for a month after poe2 drops
and i'm way more invested into that lmao
tight kiln
Pd2?
blissful plume
payday2
tight oak
project diablo 2
toxic wing
the end of the clip
is tl getting another season anytime close to the release window of le/poe2 btw?
tight kiln
is tl getting another season anytime close to the release window of le/poe2 btw?
Yes. 17th april.
Its TLI anni
toxic wing
Man they're all in the same period
tight kiln
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
toxic wing
Ggg be like nerf time
heavy blaze
poor neversink need update whole list
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3740346 all these renames
gleaming palm
damn i might play bleeding concoction KEKW
Bleeding Concoction now has 200% more Magnitude of Bleeding inflicted (previously 100%)
covert frigate
F
tight kiln
more than that actually
even the quality got changed
Bonestorm's shrapnel has become a general mechanic called Impale, similar to the Impale mechanic from Path of Exile 1. Hits that Impale an enemy cause the next attack hit against that enemy to gain added physical damage equal to 30% of the physical damage dealt by the impaling hit.
Bonestorm now Impales on hit instead of applying a specialised debuff, and has 200% more Impale magnitude.
gleaming palm
also ingenuity changed
The Ingenuity Unique Belt no longer has 40-80% increased Bonuses gained from Equipped Rings. Instead, it now has 30-50% increased bonuses gained from Equipped Left Ring, and 30-50% increased bonuses gained from Equipped Right Ring. Existing versions of this item are unaffected by these changes.
tight kiln
Bleeding Concoction now has 200% more Magnitude of Bleeding inflicted (previousl...
you know why? you cannot use widowhail anymore
Concoction Skills now require an unarmed weapon set. They no longer deal your base unarmed damage, instead dealing only attack damage specified from the Skill, like Marks. They now consume 5 Mana Flask charges per use (previously 3).
good luck
gleaming palm
guess its back to old shield or focus only KEKW
tight kiln
you lose both widowhail + quiver
gleaming palm
still can play concoction somehow
tight kiln
Despair now causes Cursed enemies to have -20% to Chaos Resistance at Gem level 9 (previously -32%), scaling up to -24% at Gem level 20 (previously -36%).
??????????????
why nerf
gleaming palm
sad
tight kiln
there's literally no fucking chaos skills to even use
oh
ALL curses got nerfed
wtf
Grim Feast can no longer be engraved in the Gemcutting menu. Existing Grim Feast Gems have been disabled, we aim to rework Grim Feast in the coming future.
literally removed
gleaming palm
damn
tight kiln
AINT NO FUCKING WAY THEY BUFFED PAIN OFFERING
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Pain Offering's Aura now grants Minions 28-58% increased Damage at gem levels 5-20, rather than 29-44% more Damage. The Aura also now grants Minions 22-58% increased Attack and Cast Speed at Gem levels 5-20 (previously 30% at all levels).
tight kiln
Soul Offering now grants 56-77% increased Spell Damage at Gem levels 13-20, rather than 32-39% more Spell Damage.
its a minion patch
literally no skeleton nerfed
welp
time to Lich + arsonist on league start again
only minions can do uber labs day 1 now
raw crag
- Players have 50% more Light Stun Threshold per time stunned in past 4 seconds (previously 25% more player Light Stun Threshold per time stunned in past 6 seconds).
- Your Heavy Stun bar now doesn't start emptying until the Heavy Stun animation has finished (instead of when the Heavy Stun animation starts).
- Heavy Stun duration on players is now 3 seconds (previously 1 second).
- Players cannot Block or Evade Hits while they are Heavy Stunned.
You are now stunned longer than a Morgana Lv4 Q 🙃
tight kiln
wow tempest bell got GIGA fucked.
spiral yew
so all in minion next patch ?
tight kiln
nah
everyone got fucking gutted
minion nerfs came from gem levels from items, the scaling after level 20 and the support skill
"Hi everyone. This is Johnathan Rogers from GGG. So I heard you like warriors. Well, in 0.2, we made everyone as shit as warrior. Enjoy!"
spiral yew
tight kiln
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuNPY9VbPlo <@171116558427488267>
its literally settlers
hot kraken
It's time
blissful plume
https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/s/EChaH2Cx1o double nerfed ingenuity
tight kiln
yep
heavy blaze
GGG be like you like fast pace game? how about a arrow to your knee 🏹
Adjusted Minion Damage and Life scaling. General Damage and Life is the same early game, but lower than before at higher levels, especially past Gem level 20+.
blissful plume
GGG be like you like fast pace game? how about a arrow to your knee 🏹
Poe2 is always about the darksouls combat
After all Archnemesis is back in full swing
heavy blaze
Herald of Ice's Explosion Radius is now 1.6 metres (previously 1.8).
wait this is all to herald of ice??
so back to basic attack with herald of ice screeen explosion
The Arbiter of Ash now deals increased damage with a select few abilities.
he already one shot with most his ability why buff
tight oak
i'm looking at all this and like
i'm really trying to find a reason why i should even link poe2 to my steam account
this shit all looks bleak
oh players are now twice as susceptible to suffering ailments
so gemling has a 20% attribute nerf, howa is <50% as good, and pillar is 50%
and astramentis has a worse range
- nerfs to the core skills
i don't think i've ever seen a 5-layered nerf to a build in poe's history before
spiral yew
`The Arbiter of Ash now deals increased damage with a select few abilities.`
he ...
so now he will one shot with all of his ability
tight oak
every boss must be a feared encounter
so you can feel the weight when you kill them and they drop you a rare boot to id
blissful plume
This is the true RUTHLESS VISION
It's not a game made to be fun for the masses after all
heavy blaze
augury map still shit
blissful plume
They want it to be fun for the select few
tight oak
how did we fall so far backwards, i don't get it
i said i was gonna at least try it but like
nah fuck that lmao
i don't need a test to be like "yep punching myself in the face sucks"
blissful plume
They hate what poe1 has become so they're gonna do the opposite
tight oak
They hate what poe1 has become so they're gonna do the opposite
wild when what they hate about poe1 is the reason poe1 is successful lmao
blissful plume
It's what happens when you start making game for yourself instead of your already established audience
tight oak
numerous in-depth mechanics being crafted and theorized just right, rewarded with a great build and endgame system
blissful plume
Well they don't like u being rewarded for crafting
tight oak
--> numerous in-depth mechanics being crafted to perfectly frustrate the player
blissful plume
They want you to pull the levers as many times as possible
So that you get retained into buying mtx
tight oak
lmao poe1 did a far greater job than poe2 ever will for getting me to buy mtx
and i'm not even a big spender
turns out i'm more invested into wanting to look good when the game isn't trying to get me to partake in CBT
tight oak
oh that's something i could do in the meantime since poe2 launch is dead on arrival
i can go finish hollow knight now that silksong is "releasing in 2025"
blissful plume
Isn't that an April fools thing
tight oak
i feel like if they were going to make an april fools joke with silksong it wouldn't be by showing us even a crumb of gameplay
moreso like an offhand comment
i doubt they'd risk it though cause that'd actually cause
so many problems with the community
also leth changed his banner to what we saw in the "trailer"
heavy blaze
found a build now need to figure out how to level a fucking warrior
tight oak
also i hope TC chose to do it that way on purpose cause like
if they didn't and nintendo decided to have silksong like that, that's egregiously out of touch by them
that's a last-reveal worthy game right there
heavy blaze
Hexblast can now only detonate Curses for which at least 50% of the duration has expired. This means it can never explode Curses that have an infinite duration
but this still stay or what?
tight kiln
yes
i like how the only usable chaos skill gets nerfed while the others get untouched.
heavy blaze
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MV0ss4Bb7U i think i found my leveling video
created by the goat
blissful plume
They got everyone but auto attack
blissful plume
Everyone needs to do auto attack builds now
To show ggg that 1 button builds are still a thing
copper mortar
conc now requires you to be unarmed
blissful plume
It also does phys
toxic wing
Everyone needs to do auto attack builds now
I'd rather not play