Path of Exile

[tight kiln]

what sockets does your boots have

[vapid crow]

2 blue 2 red

[tight kiln]

which position

got a pic

[tight kiln]

hmm ok

so what you are doing to do is to remove all the gems

go to the bench

slam 2 socket > 3 socket > 2 socket > 3 socket until you get a blue

i should have enough jeweler to help wth this

this is how you save chromes for off color for anything up to 4 sockets

[vapid crow]

until blue?

[tight kiln]

yes jewlers are easier to get than chrome + fusings

we nede 3 blue 1 red

[vapid crow]

so do until 3 blue socket?

[tight kiln]

yes

once you get 3 blue

you slam 4th socket to get a red

then just 4 link it with fusing craft

this is how we get off color by saving the bigger currencies during early game

armor = more often to get red

es = blue

[tight kiln]

evasion = green

there

okay now you get

raise spectre > minion life > meat shield > animate guardian

thats your 1st 4 link

i will teach you what spectre to get and what AG is later

[vapid crow]

ok

[tight kiln]

okay so now

we fix your tree

not sure if you have enough tho

[vapid crow]

[tight kiln]

you are going to run this for now

[vapid crow]

I have 32 refund

[tight kiln]

i hope you have enough

oh ye this should be level 87

just remove a mastery to add back later on

[vapid crow]

ok managed to fix

[tight kiln]

nice

you have no chance to fix your block for now

[vapid crow]

I think I'm missing some levels or something though

[tight kiln]

whats your tree

[vapid crow]

just this part here not enough levels

for the gloves what slots do I use

[tight kiln]

that cant be right

my tree is only 1 point off your level

[tight oak]

bandit quest?

piety's pets?

[vapid crow]

I should've cleared all the optionals

[tight oak]

golden hand||job||?

[tight kiln]

hes lacking 5 points

thats a lot

type /passives in game

are there any 0

[blissful plume]

Did u kill all bandits or joined one of them?

[vapid crow]

I killed all

[tight oak]

quite a lot of missing points there

[tight kiln]

ye those 0 are quests with points you skipped

3 there

where is the last

since my tree is level 87

[tight oak]

it's definitely piety's pets

nobody remembers to talk to grigor in a3

[tight kiln]

the golden hand?

oh

[tight oak]

the one you get for slapping piety in temple

golden hand gets forgotten sometimes too

i was like

lvl 97 this league when i did my /passives check

and found 2 missing points lmao

[tight kiln]

LOL

[blissful plume]

Golden hand was a recent change anyway since they moved 1 point from bandits for it

[vapid crow]

1 point missing

tfw the 0s were because I finished the mission but probably inventory was full or something

didn't use the book

how many are you supposed to get from quests

[blissful plume]

24

[vapid crow]

yea then I got them all already

oh I found it

it's a fucking stray node

@tight kiln ok the tree is fixed

[tight kiln]

nice

how much hp do you have

[vapid crow]

4.3k

[tight kiln]

ES?

[vapid crow]

957

[tight kiln]

your old

1k hp gained

still a lot of work to do tho

okay

[vapid crow]

[tight kiln]

we get a 5 link armor for now

a rare armor

wait

do you have any more regrets

like 10 more

[vapid crow]

nope

[tight kiln]

okay nvm

[vapid crow]

4 points left

[tight kiln]

we save for next time then

wanted to remove raise spider for aspect of spider

your next aim is

remove spider

get aspect of spider

then get this for uber lab

okay so

[vapid crow]

gloves do I also do the 2 3 socket thing until 3 blue then 1 red?

[tight kiln]

for gloves you get 2 red 1 blue for now

wait wait

okay

so

for gloves you do determination, vitality

2 red

then

you buy

automation from shop

• convoction

so your gloves will have 2 blue, 2 red

then link only 2b together, 2 red together

no 4 link

convocation is from the very last tab from Lily

so to do this, you get 2 blue 1st

then jewel socket slam 3 socket > get red > 4 socket > get last red

then fusing link so that 2 blue and 2 red links, but not to each other

so gloves is like

blue - blue

red - red

[tight kiln]

yes

actually wait

i dont think you need convocation for srs. meat shield makes spectres and your animate guardian follow you

for now the 2 reds just put determination and vitality

[vapid crow]

vitality do I stop levelling at certain level or just level it

[tight kiln]

im trying to see if i can fit another aura

because as of now, with 250 accuracy on your minion mastery

your srs only has 85% chance to hit

okay nvm no choice

so you get vitality to 20

then on your shield, you get 1 red 1 blue 1 green socketed together

get malevolence, generosity and precision

max precision for accuracy

so basically it amps the effect on your minions

[vapid crow]

ok

[tight kiln]

we cant fit skitterbots sadly

okay then helmet

skeleton - minion life - feeding frenzy - your chaos golem of maelstrom

this makes skeleton + your golem aggressive, but also provides a feeding frenzy buff for your srs

your wand will have desecrate + flesh offering

for now

oh i know what you can put on your remaining glove

automation - molten shell

molten shell is red tho

[vapid crow]

so no need convocation?

[tight kiln]

nope because your skele is gonna just be a feeding frenzy buff bot and just die

spectre and AG are the important ones

because animate guardian can equip weapons and armor to buff you

if it dies all gear is lost

spectre require corpses for you to revive it, which is also annoying to resummon

i will teach you the cheap option for AG so that it doesnt hurt as much

so now we need a 5link for your srs

[vapid crow]

armor main stat as well?

[tight kiln]

ye sec\

lemme help find

oh

how much chaos do you have

do you have 25c

[vapid crow]

28

[tight kiln]

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Phrecia/5X3j5ndua

get this its a 6 link

all the correct colors as well

follow this for gems

oh some changes. leave vitality at level 5

[vapid crow]

missing 1 blue socket

[tight kiln]

your last socket on your wand, put tempest shield

[vapid crow]

is blue instead of green

[tight kiln]

ye 4 blue 1 red 1 green

[vapid crow]

ok

wait so wand is desecrate/flesh offering/tempest shield?

[tight kiln]

yes

keep you vitality at level 5

precision 10

95% chance to hit should be ok

did you get the armor?

[vapid crow]

yea

[tight kiln]

ok

so your next aim is to get some jewel socket

get some ghastly eye jewel with life, chance to poison as your main.

[tight oak]

ngamahus gaze very good iirc

[tight kiln]

currently your srs only has 50% chance to poison

we want to bump it to 100%

[vapid crow]

but tree doesn't even have any jewel slot atm

[tight kiln]

ye so your next few levels get the sockets

3 combo is about 30c++

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Phrecia/5X5E4nota

just get life + chance to poison

o wait

wrong link

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Phrecia/yGeXVlguR

this is better

then

you have 3c left right?

[vapid crow]

ye

[tight kiln]

nvm we save animate guardian when you have some more chaos

for now we get your spectres

you have desecrate right?

[vapid crow]

i haven't reforge wand to have green yet

[tight kiln]

oh just chrome it

1 green 2 blue

[vapid crow]

wait precision go where

[tight kiln]

link 1 green and 1 blue togther

shield?

shield has 1 red 1 green 1 blue

[vapid crow]

linked?

[tight kiln]

yes linked

[vapid crow]

helmet my current one is ok?

[tight kiln]

ye you got no chaos to change

you need to aim for one that has +2 minion levels, life and resists

for now we focus on your poison chance

so wand - desecreate, flesh offering, tempest shield

shield - malevolence - generosity - precision 10

helmet - skeleton - feeding frenzy - minion life - chaos golem of maelstrom

gloves - automation - molten shell, determination - vitality 5

boots - spectre - AG - minion life - meat shield

[vapid crow]

wait motlen shell is red

[tight kiln]

save to buy 2 gems with life and chance to poison

yeah

just try craft 1 blue using chrome

red is easy to get on armor

[vapid crow]

ok

[tight kiln]

done?

[vapid crow]

need to buy the poison gems but sockets should be done

[tight kiln]

okay

so we get your spectres

how many spectre are you able to get

tooltip should show

should be 2 for now

[vapid crow]

3

[tight kiln]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

i honestly have no idea what poison minions use for their 3rd spectre

but for now we get 2 monke

you need to head to act 7 ashen field, use desecrate. corpses should spawn.

what you are going to do is to press A and hover your mouse along the corpses. find a corpse called carnage chieftain. once you do, let go of your A button and press your raise spectre button

raise 2 of them

those monkies give you and your minions frenzy charges

aka more attack speed

poisons have a set duration before they expire. how you scale poison on minon is basically more stacks and more poison duration for starters

so more attack speed on SRS = more poison stacks = more damage

[vapid crow]

ok

also wait I turn on all the aura I no more mana

[tight kiln]

hmm?

[vapid crow]

too much mana reserved

[tight kiln]

oh shit is that not enough for offering

i just realized something

[vapid crow]

not enough even for srs

[tight kiln]

i forgot about flame dash

oh shit

[vapid crow]

[tight kiln]

i also forgot about curse

fml

you might need to remove vitality

holy this is rough. hmmm

have you tested your dps yet

this is the problem with minion builds. not enough sockets

[vapid crow]

how test

[tight kiln]

i think the best way is to remove golem and minion life on helmet, then use the sockets for flame dash and despair

i mean just pop a map and go

[vapid crow]

mana running out very quickly

[tight kiln]

well dont keep spamming

does it feel better to play

[vapid crow]

feels a bit better

[tight kiln]

i dont think you will die that often now

[vapid crow]

also because my PC doesn't lag from 27 minions on the field

defintely feeling tankier

[tight kiln]

we can only fix your block after getting aegis aurora but those are 1 div for now

damn that took like

4hrs

[vapid crow]

also how many eye jewels for 100%

[tight kiln]

it depends

you buy 2 for now because we need to change your belt

we are getting this belt in the future

it goes up to 100%

we want to at least get a 90%

so you socket 2 ghastly eye and get a 90% boost

[vapid crow]

o ok

but yea I levelled precision to 10

now I have no mana again

[vapid crow]

130c

[tight kiln]

did you remove vitality

[vapid crow]

ye

still not enough

[tight kiln]

huh

[vapid crow]

wtf

[tight kiln]

my here says you got 66 mana left

[vapid crow]

60

[tight kiln]

how is that not enough

[vapid crow]

SRS 67

[tight kiln]

oh what

oh

right

fuck

im using your old pob so its 4 link

LOL

okay ye i see the problem

that means you need EB

[vapid crow]

EB?

[tight kiln]

5 levels to reach

it makes ES cover mana

so you can reserve 100% mana

and use ES as mana

[vapid crow]

that's so far away wtf

[tight kiln]

its 5 points

if you want to do it now

[vapid crow]

I only have 4 points

[tight kiln]

you remove this 4

and this node

[vapid crow]

I'll probably turn off an aura first or something

[tight kiln]

precision

[tight kiln]

@vapid crow how is it

[vapid crow]

it's pretty good

also managed to farm one from abyss

[tight kiln]

damn

thats a good one

you can even sell it i think

whats your pobb now

it will get more nuts when you remove spider for aspect of the spider + the upgrade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeV86aJgP40

holy fuck

[vapid crow]

https://pobb.in/t2-n11V23sZg

I'm trying zombies see how it feels

I still prefer permanent minions

[tight kiln]

zombie sucks since you are not investing a lot into minion life

you will also need double bone rings to make zombies survive better

sir

why is everything out of the links i gave

[vapid crow]

[tight kiln]

do you not have lily to buy gems from

[vapid crow]

I do

[tight kiln]

im gonna have to tell yah, zombies AI is gonna suck until you can get aggressive on it

which is either a wand which is stupid expensive

im talking 100+ div

or

use feeding frenzy which makes them aggressive but you lose out a link

the only minions worth playing rn for poison is srs or holy relic of conviction.

if you want holy relic of conviction you gotta swap your entire build

[vapid crow]

so I just follow this set up?

[tight kiln]

dont use summon phantasm that shit useless

[vapid crow]

no mavelovence

[tight kiln]

yes because you are looking at a very mid set up

see the aura part

[vapid crow]

is that the reserved 100% mana thing

[tight kiln]

yes you can just get EB right now

but you still dont purity of elements

determination, tempest shield

[vapid crow]

then what's the shield charge

[tight kiln]

malevolence generosity precision

its for movement

i dont like shield charge i just flame dash saves 1 link but you gotta dodge better

the issue with minion builds is that you do not have enough sockets

my old spider build i had to use unset rings just to get 2 more socket on rings

[vapid crow]

how do you max out resistances if you use unset rings

[tight kiln]

with enough money anything is possible

problem is rn you dont have enough

https://pobb.in/Zf5VRh5EQ2lq

and i would tell you to play golems if GGG didnt nerf golems to the fucking ground to the point they are useless as fuck

https://pobb.in/WtZa0zalTVwJ

that is my carrion golems build from 3 leagues ago

man my carrion golems

why they gotta nerf you that hard

[vapid crow]

[tight kiln]

they nerfed the amount of golems you can get, the damage of the golems, the hp of the golems

the necromancer class and the summons have been nerfed across like 8 leagues back to back to back

this is what happens when you dont have enough investment but fighting a mob at higher levels

everything you have just dies

but you can ignore that with srs because they are meant to be kept resummoning

thats why is so beginner friendly.

so now we gotta invest in the character's defenses, and your summon's defenses

aka double the money required

4.8k hp 2.1k ES and i still almost die

[vapid crow]

[tight kiln]

yah

this is the carrion golem build i linked. you just run and everything dies. and this is still after the fact that necromancer got nerfed 8 leagues in a row.

but this is before carrion golems got hammered to nothing

you just run and things melt

hmm i might probably try herald of agony

nvm

i think i try melee for once

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE_f33LhWdo

this gameplay makes me uneasy

[covert frigate]

I swear ggg and their invuln phases

Even a miniboss has 3 invuln phases that lasts for like 10 seconds each

[tight kiln]

which

[covert frigate]

vilente

[tight kiln]

who?

[covert frigate]

the miniboss in the Control Blocks in act 10

the one with wings

[tight kiln]

oh

right

LOL

[covert frigate]

like bruh, just let me kill the boss

i can kill it in 5 seconds

but nah, it goes invuln and drag the fight out to multiple minutes

at least the 2nd avarius fight have no invuln phase

i can just insta nuke the boss

[toxic wing]

i mean the one in maps does the same

what kind of quiver does mfa use in combination with widowhail if anyone knows

243%

% dmg with bow skills is one but no clue about the rest

[tight kiln]

check poe.ninja?

[toxic wing]

kinda on a budget atm

they have some insanely expensive stuff

[tight kiln]

ye but its a rough idea whaty to buy?

just remove a mod or 2

its probably flat damage, attack speed, life no?

[toxic wing]

flat dmg/life/dex are the most common ones

once you add one additional arrow and attack speed it becomes expensive

[tight kiln]

ye the expensive mod is one additional arrow

try attack speed

then search lesser life and dex

its how you search for stuff

[toxic wing]

how do you set the min/max amount for flat mods again

like if you want 4-64 lightning dmg for example

do you multiply it by 2

[tight kiln]

oh

idk

LOL

[toxic wing]

ok found it you divide the amount you want by 2

but yeah it's atleast 1 div for the lowest

yeah don't have enough divs

[covert frigate]

since i have this mastery

does taking this mastery increase my dps?

[blissful plume]

yes

[covert frigate]

pob doesnt seem to factor that in to calculations

or is there a cap to projecitle speed

[vapid crow]

@tight kiln got 4th ascension

[tight oak]

+1 arrow, attack speed, and in this case dex

Theres some recombinator shenanigans to reach this quiver with 3 suffixes but meh

[toxic wing]

it's so over

[tight oak]

after you have those 3 on a broadhead, clean the prefixes using wild bristle matrons to force suffixes cannot be changed -> scour

Imma be honest

If you aren't a 1% player

Don't play mfa

That build is clunky as hell and you only need those numbers for 20k+ delve

After getting the suffixes it is just

[toxic wing]

yeah looks it pretty much

[tight oak]

Suffixes cannot be changed --> harvest add/remove life, pray for high flat life

If unhappy with results, suffixes cannot be changed, scour, suffixes cannot be changed, harvest life, repeat until satisfied

Once happy, hunter exalt and pray

[toxic wing]

yeah too expensive

[tight oak]

1/3 chance to roll pierce and be upset, 1/3 for t2 MS and be relieved, 1/3 for t1 MS and be very happy

I spent 50d making this quiver

Tried the build, hated it

Sold quiver for 110d

[toxic wing]

was it that bad?

or just overall expensive

[tight oak]

You need the stars to align

Your LA to manaforged trigger ratio needs to be good

You need to be reliably staying at max mana to be able to trigger

It has miserable defenses until you hit critical mass

[toxic wing]

yeah i have noticed

was es your main defense then?

or a combination

[tight oak]

I didn't progress it enough to figure that out

Like all I knew was

By all means I should have been vastly stronger than connor

But instead it just felt bad

And the build is very much not 1-button

Oh yeah also maintaining indigon stacks was misery

[toxic wing]

like during mapping?

and bossing

[tight oak]

Mapping is fine, mostly

Bossing is trash cause even though you have gorilla damage on storm rain

You have 1 target to leech off of and it's bad

If you want to stay as a mana stacking whisperer

imo play KB, one button, incredible clear, solid defenses with investment

just awful single target

[toxic wing]

how awful is it

[tight oak]

if you just want a ranger build, play rue's EE LS oshabi

I mean

I still did all voidstones and flawless breachstones on kb

[toxic wing]

if i sell my current stuff i can maybe get a div or 2

gear isn't really selling so yeah

[tight oak]

You can easily get started off of a div for kb

[toxic wing]

i have like 3 ish divs atm

if you include chaos

[tight oak]

I could budget that if you want

[toxic wing]

oh right i could sell the widowhail

[tight oak]

With 3 you should be able to afford most of the gear to start erasing your screen

[toxic wing]

do you have an idea how expensive it would be in terms of gold to fix the tree

still need to farm gold

[tight oak]

I have no gold

So i just use ragrets

[toxic wing]

is it cheaper overall?

[tight oak]

But it shouldnt be that bad

Uses the same MoM and mana stacking area

Cheaper as in KB or regrets

KB is definitely cheaper than MFA

Im still just using like

5c wand and shield, random 6 link body

[toxic wing]

https://pobb.in/jwN18D8mkPuX

[tight oak]

5c boots, 4c gloves

[toxic wing]

the config is prob wrong

but it should do

[tight oak]

Oh your passive tree is abysmal dogshit

[toxic wing]

yeah figured

[tight oak]

I mean its a good tree for just LA

But you aren't doing anything mana related

[toxic wing]

i had no clue what to path to after the conner tree

[tight oak]

I dont think your storm rain even triggers ngl

[toxic wing]

prob true

no clue though i never pay attention since i'm so squishy so i keep shooting

[tight oak]

Yeah i mean you got 2.6k life

[toxic wing]

didn't have much currency for gear at the time

but since i wasn't sure about the build i didn't want to invest into it

or well too much

since i was making like no currency

[tight oak]

yeah i mean

this is why you gotta follow proper leaguestart guides

the diehard players can make dogshit like MFA leaguestartable by sheer time investment

[toxic wing]

just be like fubgun

[tight oak]

i mean

he invests like 30 hours on leaguestart and makes a shit ton of currency cause he's in maps in the first 4 hours

and just sells literally everything he picks up

[toxic wing]

does he like dump everything?

[tight oak]

and he does it by playing the literal best speed builds

on day 1

[toxic wing]

not a huge fan of ls tbh

[tight oak]

being ahead of the economy is an insane boost to your gains

because you can sell literal white items for profit

simply for being good bases

i.e. necrotic armour, wyvernscale pieces

whatever t1 armour bases

anyway

[toxic wing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpq9R8TO4DQ

[tight oak]

let me see how many points of respeccing it would take to convert your tree to a kb tree

[toxic wing]

is this the one?

it's 11 days ago

but he made a bunch more

[covert frigate]

i feel like if you want to make a profit in POE econ, you have 2 choice, be blazing fast and sell good endgame gear that no one managed to get to yet, or if you missed that opportunity, wait until the market stabelize and then start selling things at their fair value

[toxic wing]

nah there is a step 3

become a hideout warrior

but that one suck

or no life sanctum

[covert frigate]

definitely dont want to be in the middle and try to sell things while the market prices are fluctuating

whats hideout warrior? just buy bases, craft and sell?

[toxic wing]

flipping items for the most and sniping items

you do kinda go against bots if you do snipining items as well

since the person will get spammed

some ppl become traders for groups where all they do is trade and sell items for the group

and/or resupply them with what they need

[tight oak]

you sit in hideout 24/7

flip items, buy low-sell high, scout for hot commodities that can be easily crafted for profit

these players will get to like a6, do some heisting for starting currency to work with

[covert frigate]

how does flipping items work in POE?

[tight oak]

the same it works in every economy

buy low sell high

i bought an 8d watchers eye on day 2 or 3 and sold it for 50d yesterday

[toxic wing]

for example buying a low tier scarab cause fubgun is using it

and once he makes his video

you can make massive profit

[covert frigate]

so it still takes market research and stuff

[tight oak]

when it comes to that people don't realize

that if you're learning of it through a youtube video

you're already too late

[covert frigate]

yep

[toxic wing]

you kinda need insider info

[tight oak]

people live snipe you on stream

[toxic wing]

for certain items atleast

[covert frigate]

its why i dont really take "how to make money fast" vids seriously

[tight oak]

it's why content creators are a plague on ARPGs

[covert frigate]

i use it to get an idea for how i can progress

[toxic wing]

it's called the mathil effect for a reason

[tight oak]

part of why trade is such a degenerate pile of abysmal dogshit

[toxic wing]

i mean if ssf wasn't as ass it would be fine

but if you need one item you better hope chris blesses your drops

especially for build enabling uniques

[tight oak]

the problem with ssf is that you are required to play a meta cuck build that needs exactly 0 uniques to clear voidstones

at least to start

[toxic wing]

just be like alk and play slam builds

[covert frigate]

yeh i would never be able to play ssf, takes too much luck and grind

[tight oak]

i would definitely not say luck

[covert frigate]

depends on the build i guess

if a build is made with ssf in mind, then luck is not that big of a deal

[tight oak]

if you decide to pick a build that needs a unique to function in ssf as your leaguestarter, that's a skill issue

even target farmable uniques like WI

[covert frigate]

tho ssf would still take crafting knowledge

which i dont have much of yet

[tight oak]

yeah

@toxic wing https://pobb.in/547Mu5xn-yi0

galvanized your pob to make an okay kb tree with minimal gear changes

though it would need to get changed out cause we are in desperate need of life

ideally we want at least 3.4k life

i was running through t16s with 2k life and it wasn't pretty

[toxic wing]

even with mind over matter?

[tight oak]

yes

[toxic wing]

anything to look out for in jewels?

[tight oak]

we want corrupted blood immunity asap

so any with that corruption

otherwise we have like 4 ideal mods

% max mana, % max life, attack speed with wands/shield/1h/etc, and crit multi

[tight oak]

you're still taking 60% of damage to your life

if you have 2k life, you're using only 1.3k mana to block with

[covert frigate]

did steelmage ever made a video about his phrecia lightning strike?

[tight oak]

steelmage played power siphon into gencry

are you thinking of:
Ruetoo
Fubgun
Lolcohol
Llaroid
insert any of 50 aspiring build guide "creators"

[covert frigate]

no its steelmage

or at least, a LS build is included in steelmage's pob

idk if its good or not, but im following it cause soulravel linked to it

[tight oak]

well that was an easy craft

like 5 essences lmao

[covert frigate]

5 essences as in you essense -> scour -> essense 5 times?

[tight oak]

no

actually good essences can reforge rares

[covert frigate]

for real?

[toxic wing]

Yep

[tight kiln]

swap to the aspect of spider ascendency if you can

[covert frigate]

Damn ranger is really squishy, first izaro of merc lab actually just outright killed me in 1 single hit from full life, wasnt even a multi hit attack

[tight kiln]

because evasion

every time you get hit you have less chacne of evading

until you actually get hit

its how evasion works in poe

thats why you need like 4 different types of defenses in poe1

[covert frigate]

There was no evasion, it was his first attack of the fight

[tight kiln]

oof

need more hp i guess

[covert frigate]

Its fine i just didn't dodge it cause i thought i could tankit

It was funny that i died in 1 single hit

[tight kiln]

ranger for you

okay i think its time to start another toon soon

wtf how is tabula still 20c

[tight oak]

there are things that also ignore evasion/block

not commonly found in maps but they exist

ranger defense is generally "don't get hit" / "they die before they can look at you funny"

not that you can't build a tanky ranger

but there's a reason why ranger is the softcore character and is basically nonexistent on hardcore, aside from pathfinder at its peak

[tight kiln]

pathfinder is so broken its not even funny lmao

[tight oak]

Pf isnt quite so broken anymore

[tight kiln]

less broken

[tight oak]

too many indirect nerfs

Nerf to mfing so master surgeon div distillate is weaker

Chaos skills in general atm are just hexblast or nothing

minus hoag which is just popping off from the ascendancy being tailor made for it in this event

peak TR pf/impending doom pf was disgusting though

until it got shot it was just

if you want a braindead currency printer that hits dot cap with 5d, pick up tr and turbo through heists

[blissful plume]

he played ps into LS then swapped to gencry after a while

[covert frigate]

Is steelmage’s ls a good build or should i find someone else's ls?

[blissful plume]

i swapped to his and didn't have much issues with it but he didn't stick long to work on it

still works for low budget

[tight oak]

if you can try rues LS

[blissful plume]

but scaling high, you gotta look elsewhere

[tight oak]

since his is a ranger you dont need to redo campaign

[covert frigate]

you have pob for that?

[covert frigate]

i cant find his explanation for how his LS build work anywhere

[blissful plume]

he doesn't have an explanation

its just in his pob

[covert frigate]

I see

[blissful plume]

its just tank and spank so far

[covert frigate]

This one quiver i found in act 3 or smth is so good that quivers im getting in act 10 and quivers that i got from doing mechanics can't even beat it

Alright, took me a while but im finally done with acts

[covert frigate]

Holy fuck a div drop in a t1 map lmao

[tight kiln]

You shouldn't 1 for 1 follow

He plays HC

So hes gonna care more about defenses above everything

[tight kiln]

I havent gotten a div drop yet

Okay gonna buy all the leveling uniques now, clear acts and try flicker strike

[covert frigate]

You say that as if i know how to modify the build for sc lmao

[tight kiln]

its also why we keep mentioning dont 1-for-1 copy a streamer build they play 15k hours

[covert frigate]

Ok, but i also don't know how to modify their builds

[tight kiln]

just ask us

seven league step still 36c wtf

[covert frigate]

Alright, guess ill keep doing what ive been doing

You got any whispere LS build you recommend?

[tight kiln]

sec

https://youtu.be/q_AdaQTS8V4?si=5OwR_TJQH-dgYtFw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9l51nRXvXE

if you need proper explanation based on the 1st link

[covert frigate]

Nice, thnx

[blissful plume]

following 1 for 1 HC builds if u don't want to use 6 portals if that's your thing

[covert frigate]

I pop open a legion encounter and the game just crashes

[tight kiln]

time to upgrade pc

[covert frigate]

I wish i could

This game ia 10 yo

My laptop is only 5

Idk why the game is like this

[tight oak]

because you are not playing a game from 2013-2014

you are playing a game from 2023

one that has powerscaled to the point of flooding your screen with enemies, having thousands of mini-calculations being performed a second

[covert frigate]

It just has really unoptimized model loading

Thats prob the main problem

Bruh im losing all my portals cause the game keeps crashing and disconnecting me

Game freezes and kills me, then disconnects to main menu while im respawning, and crashes when i try to login again

Wtf???

[tight kiln]

at 1 done

[blissful plume]

pro racer

[tight kiln]

should be faster when i have 7 league steps lmao

[blissful plume]

wear the onslaught helm too

[tight kiln]

nah

im using gold rim

[tight oak]

hmm

thinking between investing in my manastacker or swapping to EE LS oshabi

[tight kiln]

rip

[tight kiln]

its happening

[covert frigate]

whats that?

[tight kiln]

their character gets sent to standard

[tight oak]

they in fact do not get sent to standard

they get sent to void league

aka their character and everything they have on them gets immediately deleted from the game

[tight kiln]

oh right

[tight kiln]

jesus christ frost blades is rough to level with

finished act 5

[tight oak]

yea

non katabasis fb is garbage

imma be honest

if you're any class that biases towards dex

you should just level as bow

[tight kiln]

i shouoldve leveled as hollow palm

LOL

[tight oak]

wait arent you making a duelist alt

[tight kiln]

no

[tight oak]

yeah why didnt you lmao

shadow?

2nd ranger?

[tight kiln]

ranger

[tight oak]

trying to think who tf gets fb

yeah then hollow palm lmao

or again just bow cause uhh this is modern poe where bow isn't abysmal dogshit for leveling anymore

[tight kiln]

nvm

im almost level 55

aka 2nd lab

aka i can flicker soon

[blissful plume]

But its not the fastest for ranger right?

I feel that cobra lash> pconc is faster

[tight kiln]

almost online soon

[tight kiln]

oh i realized why im struggling with frost blades

i didnt get strike +1

[tight kiln]

eh

[toxic wing]

poor guy
out of all build creators or well stealers in this case

[tight kiln]

not too bad i can clear yellow maps with beginner rings amulet and belt lmao

[covert frigate]

Godamn it i accidentally sold an 80% strongbox chance idol

Why the fuck does this game not let you buy back stuff you sold

[covert frigate]

https://pobb.in/RExeTRUSkDS3

Ok i need tips on how to stop getting one shotted in t5 maps

[toxic wing]

You don't

[covert frigate]

Tf

[toxic wing]

With that kind of life i was getting one shot in yellow maps as well

Ranger is just too squishy

[covert frigate]

There are barely any life nodes around to take

[toxic wing]

On gear for the most part

[copper mortar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FluMfeFjEVg

[covert frigate]

Boss rush

[copper mortar]

weaver tree looks to be the atlas tree pretty much

TL:DR on this is that it's a corruption catchup on other characters

[covert frigate]

So whats the strat for kingsmarch?

[tight kiln]

oh kingsmarch is ahrd to explaiun lmao

just upgrade whenever,

its town building basically

if youve played like civ or things like that

you just build things up, upgrade them, get better workers etc

oh nvm

i remembered

@covert frigate https://youtu.be/bkIgxYdOows?si=OzmjyOMPdKLaCsBM

31 mins video for you

[covert frigate]

I get the gist but whats the meta strat?

[tight kiln]

https://youtu.be/4VzIIlvUR28?si=PKdmLmQS07mg5K-0

[covert frigate]

Nice

Holy fucking shit this elite just spawn camp insta teleport oneshot

Used up all my portals

Its literally 1 single hit

[blissful plume]

Lol there's a timeless jewel up for a mirror

[covert frigate]

Bruh so many people list items but never respond when whispered

What has this community devolved into smh

[blissful plume]

They relist it for 3 times more

Thanks to content creators spreading the gospel of relist your items by 2x whenever someone whispers u

Started in 2 and now 1 is infected

[tight oak]

This is precisely what steel was talking about

He blames streamers, rightly, for what trade has devolved into

Fubgun is the biggest shitter in this regard

and yeah i mean

ranger builds are not tanky and honestly not ideal for new players

even if they are extremely simple to scale and build, you are on the squishiest side of the tree

you're great at not getting hit through evasion, maybe block, and in general not being close to enemies

but something gets past that and, well, you got spell suppression i guess lmao
(this is to say that your max hit is abysmal)

imo all beginners should always look to one person for build guides

being zizaran

zizaran guides will always hold your hand start to finish, be generally durable and self-sufficient, and the builds reach 90% power in like 10d worth of gear

[covert frigate]

Literally first shipment in kingsmarch i my ship got attacked by pirates and lost everything

Fucking GGG and their vision

[tight oak]

i havent touched kingsmarch in days

100d and no gold cause breach mobs drop practically nothing x d

legitimately cant wait until settlers is no more

[covert frigate]

ill prob have to trade for an upgrade of my bow, dmg is starting to fall behind

https://pobb.in/NHt-JNFfg7VV

is this enough to make it to T16, or do i want to find better gear and tweak my tree?

[tight kiln]

That is never making t16s lol

[covert frigate]

how should i go making this reach t16?

or do i just switch to LS now?

i have no idea what minimum viable t16 gear is supposed to look like

[tight kiln]

@tight oak i thought you'd use at least 1 aura with eternal blessing on mana stackers?

[tight kiln]

Ye a lot of people are going to fall into this trap lol

Ranger classes are the squishiest of classes.

Changing to LS wouldn't help you survive.

Did the guide say use anger or did you just added that in

[covert frigate]

guide says use anger

well

the guide was only for beating acts

[covert frigate]

then what do i do lmao?

[tight kiln]

Hmm

This is rough lmao

[covert frigate]

evidently

if a mere t5 elite can 1 shot me

[tight kiln]

Even my power siphon scion had more defenses and i still get one shotted

Not that much more but still

My current flicker strike has more defenses than my scion

[covert frigate]

do i just live with it and keep pushing maps or what?

why do both leaguestarter build guide ive used have been extremely unsmooth lmao

[tight kiln]

Nah WoC was one of the smoothest league starters ive played

Its just that ranger and mana stacker dont mix that well. It only looks good on paper

My current flicker strike has block, fortify, evasion, spell suppression at level 77.

Even at 26% fire resist i dont out right get one shotted in yellow maps lmao

If you were playing a normal ranger you can easily climb. But mana stackers are just different when you have no access to mind over matter

Thats like 40% of your defenses gone

Yeah i think you need to swap to LS

https://youtu.be/44n9MHic7jE?si=5Z55DYHWpxzKBNW8

Watch the video. You can see how much he is dodging. That is a ranger's playstyle

Its also a good video to swap to LS

At least you have defenses

[covert frigate]

i guess i should start switching over now?

i dont mind playing dodge heavy builds, but with how much my game stutter, its really annoying

[tight kiln]

yeah but idk if you have enough chaos lol

[covert frigate]

no idea either

i have 14 rn

[tight kiln]

https://youtu.be/u9l51nRXvXE?si=4juDxW8RaK2Vc4H1

[covert frigate]

yeh you sent me that before, so im following that

[tight kiln]

both works in their own ways

[covert frigate]

i think Travic's POB is more budget so ill stick with that one

[tight kiln]

ye because he manually routed to MoM

his pob also only shows the important things to look out for on the stats

you can play around with it ofc

dont have to copy 1 for 1

[covert frigate]

yeh i know

[tight kiln]

https://youtu.be/-2MI8VezdI4?si=nQ2twxZkYH5gdBp4

[tight oak]

You do

Provided you can afford to

I cannot afford to do so because of a quirky little thing that is required on my build

spellslinger

which unfortunately reserves about 30%, and I need my life

and is also unsupportable by blessing as it isn't an aura

[tight kiln]

ye thats what i thought

and its usually a defensive aura

i had grace on my mana stacker

[covert frigate]

Aight lets see if i can manage to switch build to ls

[tight kiln]

good luck

[covert frigate]

I think i have enough chaos to afford the gear

If only these damn people would reply to whispers

[tight kiln]

i PM this guy for 2 hrs

for a shield i need badly

THEN HE WENT OFFLINE

fucking

im bout to be raora playing mhw

[covert frigate]

I hate these people

Bunch of assholes

Looks like i can still do t4 fairly comfortably

Its only t5 that destroys me

[tight kiln]

thats weird

the spike isnt that high at all

[covert frigate]

Dunno

I go from getting 2 shot in t4 to 1 shot in t5

[tight kiln]

did you full swap already?

to LS

[covert frigate]

No

Still using the same build

[tight kiln]

oh

what did you change

i think my final defenses for flicker strike is chill & freeze (cold convert flicker strike), evasion, fortify 20 stacks (20% damage reduction), sand stance (10% damage reduction from mobs in the aura effect), 65% block, 65% spell block, 75% spell dodge

and this probably wouldnt even survive t17s lmao

unless i blow up the mobs before i get blown up

[tight oak]

might be time to swap off whisperer to ls oshabi

liquidating my gear gives me mb, rest of the gear is pretty easy to get now

[tight kiln]

why not just stick to whisperer

lol

[tight oak]

low single target damage, gear is cumbersome to craft

very annoying to hit 0 mana and not be able to attack

[covert frigate]

Nothing yet

Im buying all the gear i need to plan out ele res first

[tight kiln]

oh

[tight oak]

its main strength is having the highest clear imaginable but it doesn't do much if i can't kill the actual sources of loot just as fast as i blow up packs

[tight kiln]

i got about 5 div to play around with my flicker strike

meanwhile people in cutedog's server

[raw crag]

Feels like the longer this league event goes on, the more my original (easy) prediction of LS, once again, takes the #1 spot for build of the league event; it's just too solid

[tight oak]

x d

i mean

it's the single best skill in the game

[tight kiln]

lightning strike is the best skill in the game

lol

[raw crag]

3.26 nerf soon tm? 2026

[tight kiln]

they already nerfed it tho

[tight oak]

great clear, double damage tech, projectiles shotgun, GGG thinks it's a melee skill so it got over double the damage scaling

[tight kiln]

it used to be more broken

[tight oak]

it did

[tight kiln]

it got nerfed then got buffed on damage numbers due to the removal of the melee totem

[tight oak]

and they brought it back albeit not as strong

[raw crag]

let's be real, the melee totem removal was a buff to most players
ppl want to 1-button as much as possible

[tight kiln]

i played it when the melee totems and raider was still a thing

LS raider is so good.

[tight oak]

LS zerker hit over 50m dps on duct tape

LS champion was immortal and did good damage from a 1c belt

[tight kiln]

apparently a warrior won the poe2 race

LMAO

[raw crag]

Speaking of totem-removal, Flicker saw the absolute biggest benefit
As a Flicker player, who could actually be arsed to pause & place totems?

[tight oak]

i don't know why melee totems existed

nobody liked them and there is no precedent in any ARPG that has melee totem

like the closest is grim ward and that one

requires a corpse
is intangible
does not attack
and nobody liked using it

[tight kiln]

[tight oak]

side note on this, i'm bored of the league and so is the rest of my guild, but it's been extended so i'm gonna at least try to make something out of it

[tight kiln]

might as well go all in and mirror tier it

i feel like doing it on a character that can actually scale to the moon

aka flicker strike

[covert frigate]

Ok i think i can actually do t5, as long as my game doesnt stutter and i blind fire to kill enemies off screen

[tight oak]

i can revisit it later once i actually have a character that can farm

cause it is disgusting to be playing a character that has 80d invested

[covert frigate]

Can't zoom anymore, just gotta shoot every step

[tight oak]

and not be able to do t17s cause the single target is fecal matter

when i could swap to a character that could start doing them in 10

[tight kiln]

thats ranger for you

unless you get a headhunter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ5yjFe1uuk&ab_channel=Bowb0wbow

then you do this

[covert frigate]

You know what? I think my manaforge arrow in this build isnt doing much

Cause i kill most enemies off screen anyway

[tight kiln]

its not until indigon

[tight oak]

i mean iirc you have manaforged with 3 skills and no supports

[covert frigate]

Blast rain and storm rain doesnt even hit anything

[tight kiln]

isnt your manaforged supposed to be supporting your main skill lol

[covert frigate]

Is there any support gem that increases their range?

[covert frigate]

Well its not supporting much cause it can't even reach enemies at the range im killing them

[tight kiln]

nope

[covert frigate]

[tight oak]

the correct answer is to have 2 mfa setups

[tight kiln]

idk initially i also thought whisperer mfa gonna be broken as shit then i think again ranger and no MoM

[tight oak]

actually this setup doesn't work cause whisperer gets minimum charges

you still have MoM

[tight kiln]

ye but later on

[tight oak]

but you have literally 1 ascendancy node that has any text on it until indigon

and it's fork

[covert frigate]

I think what ill do it move LA to 5 link and MFA setup to 4 link

[tight kiln]

sir LA is your main dps

[covert frigate]

Just have mfa support explosive arrows

And give it some support gems

[tight oak]

explosive arrow is terrible

unless you're playing ignite

[tight kiln]

explosive arrow???

why???

[covert frigate]

Blast and storm rain isnt doing anytging

Its bad? What should i use then?

[tight oak]

just use mfa-frenzy-ensnaring-cull

[tight kiln]

something to support your survivability or increase LA's damage

[tight oak]

actually frenzy not even good

[tight kiln]

that too

[tight oak]

cause you have minimum charges

[covert frigate]

Yeh

[tight oak]

mfa-ensnaring-cull-lifetap then

[covert frigate]

Alr maxed out frenzy

[tight oak]

actually idr if lifetap works with mfa correctly

in that case no lifetap, just use the 4th socket as a movement