Path of Exile

[tight kiln]

divine grows itself

[toxic wing]

rich oil baron

[covert frigate]

what 10 years of experience does to a mf

[toxic wing]

man my dmg on la is so bad atm

the game refuses to give me a good ele bow

[covert frigate]

i didnt realize how much easier casters have it early acts

spells deal so much more dmg than attack skills

and casters have much easier access to mana regen

[toxic wing]

yeah you just get spell dmg or focus on fire dmg etc

also the mana management is generally easier

[blissful plume]

Spells only need levels

Everything else is weapon dmg

[tight kiln]

im not even fast btw. snoop already red maps and im still on yellow lmao

[toxic wing]

Kuo too pro

Did any of you get any legendary relics yet btw

[tight kiln]

nah im only on yellow maps

[covert frigate]

Bruh why are these people just camping in the town and spamming effects?

My framerate is dying

[blissful plume]

that's the point

[blissful plume]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/s/wDIS2FEDfB oof, max additional is only 1

[blissful plume]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/s/mJymMNvoxW you can drop them in yellows

[tight kiln]

oh nice

lmao

everyone swapping to lightning strike whisperer @blissful plume

[blissful plume]

Mfa it is then

Also my plan is to try and farm an indigon as ps mines before swapping

[tight kiln]

lightning strike is just easier to get going and way stronger sir

[blissful plume]

But if everyone goes for LS, all the gear gonna be expensive

[tight kiln]

yes but you also get stronger to farm for those expensive gears

anyone need?

left with shield and boots

nice finishing my chaos receipe soon.

i can swap loot filters and rush soon.

[blissful plume]

Wow rich

LS will need an elemental claw right

[tight oak]

Just got my name in the event twice

[blissful plume]

Nice

Pro racer

[tight kiln]

Im still on yellow LMAO

[blissful plume]

Pro

You can win in the poe2 races next month

[tight oak]

theres still so much more to upgrade

i got my lethal pride, astramentis, cyclopean coil, fractal (need to swap to council)

but my boots are trash, need ancestral, shield is mid, rings are ok

weapon is weird

[toxic wing]

Pro weapon haver

[toxic wing]

someone loan me 390 tujen currency

[blissful plume]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/s/pldTENP1P3

[copper mortar]

new teased LE unqiue

[blissful plume]

So is the top 2 stats part of the weaver rng or are they fixed on that weapon?

[copper mortar]

top two are fixed

[heavy blaze]

dies of cringe

when i open some streams

[toxic wing]

Yep

Atleast alk isn't playing it

[heavy blaze]

all of alk stream is SLAM SLAM SLAM SLAM SLAM. he not playing any other skills

[tight kiln]

lightning strike too OP thats why

i should rush tomorrow

slacked hard today

[tight oak]

THIRD GRASPING MAIL OF THE LEAGUE BABY @tight kiln

[blissful plume]

https://youtu.be/Lr4xFuhn56k?si=sn0Zu937kMMvUfZ-

[toxic wing]

Atleast it's no ls

[covert frigate]

Man early game lightning arrow alr feels so much more satisfying to use than post game WOC

I think i picked the wrong build when i decided to follow woc build guide

[vapid crow]

Funny how shadow became the minion class for phrecia having to build left & upwards towards witch while starting on shadow is a strange feeling

[blissful plume]

pro racer

[tight oak]

4/5 flawless

[covert frigate]

Wow LA Manaforge Arrow feels so good to play

[tight kiln]

time to try hitting red maps today

[vapid crow]

how do you guys get to mapping so fast

[blissful plume]

10 years of playtime

also practice runs

[tight kiln]

we skip everything and just go next

takes like 6 to 8hrs for me to clear campasign on league start, but people do in it like 3hrs 40 mins

pog 1st reed map

[covert frigate]

Lmao this build is just face tank boss and chug flasks

Its so different from caster build

[tight oak]

i took like 6-7 hours this start

had to stall in blood aqueducts swapping to kb

[blissful plume]

Huh whisperer stealth let's you offscreen mobs and bosses even in sanctum

[covert frigate]

Somehow found 2 chaos before even finishing act 4

[blissful plume]

Chaos isn't rare to find in early campaigns though

[covert frigate]

Huh thought it was rare

[blissful plume]

Nope, poe1 we trade in chaos

It's only less common in campaign

But we can vendor recipe for them too

Same for exalts

[covert frigate]

Alright finished act 4

[tight kiln]

oh

strongbox is crazy good

lol

its time

[covert frigate]

bruh why tf does GGG put a bunch of cosmetic bundles on sale for a limited time but give no good images of what the cosmetics include?

i have to open a separate tab to search up what the armor in the bundle look like

[blissful plume]

VISION

[blissful plume]

It doesn't work past 100% right

[covert frigate]

feel the weight of your purchase

[blissful plume]

No idea whose vision it is anyway since chris left

Not Jonathan's since he only cares about 2

[covert frigate]

ill proba grab the starfall armor pack

[blissful plume]

I'm surprised they haven't brought back the past supporter packs as buyable mtx for poe2 yet

[covert frigate]

damn, im gonna need to spend an extra $50 to get this armor bundle

bloody expensive

guess that means i wont be spending on POE until the end of the year

[tight kiln]

lol

[blissful plume]

Surely those prices aren't right for a ring like that?

Not even ilvl 85

[tight kiln]

its day 3 lol

[blissful plume]

Yeah most people are in red maps by day 2 at least

[blissful plume]

Rich

[tight kiln]

ye with bare basic shit

day 3 is usually the time people start going for chaos resist

iu can finally change my gears

[tight kiln]

okay

got my last ascendency

[tight kiln]

one off from max.

got it for 3 div

got my anoint

+43% dps

[blissful plume]

Are you sticking with ps mines all the way or swapping to something else?

[tight kiln]

idk see how

okay time to fix my flasks

[toxic wing]

2 div for that

[tight kiln]

try searching for all the mods

with an open prefix to craft

except the phys over time its ass

[toxic wing]

I guess it's day 4 afterall

[tight kiln]

nice day 2 for me

its kinda rough not having trickster defenses

[tight kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzdd5E6d7mg

[blissful plume]

https://youtu.be/skGq47U1HNs?si=T0F0yUljiWSTpXiW

[toxic wing]

yeah i doubt i can do what conner is doing

my gear is nothing for the most part so far

tujen and ritual still holding the divines hostage meanwhile

[covert frigate]

Alright this manaforged arrow build really struggles with bossfights and single target dmg

And its extremely squishy

[blissful plume]

cause ranger

[covert frigate]

Im realizing more and more how privileged casters are

They can delete act bosses so easily

Ranger has to actually try

I can't just press 2 buttons and thr boss disappears

[toxic wing]

Don't level with mfa

Rain arrows til lvl 38 something iirc

[covert frigate]

I also can't easily cap out ele res cause the socket requirements are so steep

[toxic wing]

You're still in the acts right

@covert frigate

Lvlng with mfa la is not worth it imo

You'll struggle around the later acts cause of the weak boss/rare dmg

Ypu can skip the ps mines and go into mfa right away

But it might take awhile for your dmg to get there

That's why most ppl go ls and convert to mfa later

Or some ps miner

[covert frigate]

Hm

https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/ranger-leveling-build-guide

im following this for leveling

in acts

[toxic wing]

Also mfa gear is expensive atm

[covert frigate]

https://pobb.in/r4qm3KP-dqRk

and this is endgame

[toxic wing]

Is this for the event?

Or nah

[covert frigate]

yeh its for the event

[toxic wing]

The maxroll guide uses an old acendancy

I also don't see any whisperer stuff in it

Or how you get free fork and stuff so you can drop it etc

[covert frigate]

it says the guide is asc agnostic

so i assume it works for this event

has a video of the guide maker playing during this event too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YmunbibHtI&t=3s

[toxic wing]

Havoc is good

You can trust stuff from him

I can say that much atleast

It's prob fine then

[covert frigate]

hm, his dmg is way higher than mine in the video

[toxic wing]

Different gear?

[covert frigate]

yeh maybe i should get better gear instead of trying so hard to maintain socket links

but he somehow has way more 3 and 4 links than me

[toxic wing]

prob found them or vendors if i had to guess

needs to be atleast act 3 for 4 socket items to appear

some quests give you 4l items as rewards as well

[covert frigate]

yeh im in act 5

he has more 3 and 4l than me early than me

so he might be doing some crafting too

[toxic wing]

if it's havoc

prob

the guy is pretty good at bow stuff

i woudn't compare yourself to havoc though

[covert frigate]

yeh i know

just trying to figure out how to get thought acts more smoothly

[toxic wing]

mostly rng tbh

Some ppl get 30% movement speed boots and are way faster cause they found them

[covert frigate]

lmao he's putting skill points onto the tree mid bossfight

[toxic wing]

Yep

He joins races as well

[covert frigate]

theres no way i can compare to even a fraction of him

ok looks like the trick to having fast boss fights is balista skills

ill prob switch up my current setup a bit to see if stuff are smoother

[blissful plume]

fastest leveling skill for bows is rain of arrows

[toxic wing]

isn't that only til lvl 38 or so

iirc you use it til then and switch over to la at some point

then again conner isn't really a leaguestart maker

[blissful plume]

havoc has a rain of arrows leaguestart too

[toxic wing]

as a main dps skill?

[blissful plume]

for leveling before you swap

[toxic wing]

ah i see

are you playing ls btw?

[blissful plume]

still ps mines and act10

probably following steel and swap to ls at 85

[toxic wing]

indigon at 30 div meanwhile

were they that high during settlers as well?

playing ls does seem like the better move in hindsight

but i really dislike the skill

[blissful plume]

no idea, wasn't paying attention to mana stackers

https://youtu.be/A1jkCR3Pi3Y?si=jf07DOGm6QMtMdF9&t=299 connor losing it

[toxic wing]

yeah looks like my experience in t5 maps as well

not sure what i can swap to at this point though

i'm already on whisperer

[blissful plume]

can swap to oshabi

we can change ascendancies

this isn't poe2

[toxic wing]

til

whats good for oshabi

or atleast builds that are really going strong atm

[blissful plume]

probably this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aYlNxSxJkU&ab_channel=Zizaran

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxCvCwov9MA&t=7s&ab_channel=Zizaran

[toxic wing]

hm

[blissful plume]

or stay whisperer and go kb of clustering

[toxic wing]

would 2-3 div be enough to swap

[blissful plume]

[toxic wing]

guess 'ill farm some more then

prob won't hurt to have more currency

[blissful plume]

probably check trade for the items and see how much you can save

[toxic wing]

are there any non bait kb clustering build guide out there?

[blissful plume]

is palestron's bait?

[toxic wing]

nah

he's pretty decent

guess i'll check his out

[covert frigate]

he was shilling this so much befoe the event lmao

[toxic wing]

yeah

he said he was gonna farm his own indigon

you do kinda need it

[blissful plume]

he actually did give a warning about it

he even said he sucks at making a leveling guide

[tight oak]

got my indigon

my mana consumption is cooked even with inspiration now

[toxic wing]

Pro

Did you farm it

[covert frigate]

Did some crafting managed to cap out ele res(barely) and increased my dmg

[covert frigate]

Ok i am back to zooming

Don't have room to fit in shoes with move speed tho

Maybe ill trade for one

[covert frigate]

Nvm found a shoe with good res and 25 movspeed

[tight kiln]

you shouldnt use havoc as a reference hes a racer LOL

they know what they are doing and often use regex to check shops

[covert frigate]

But studying racers is a good way to learn tho

Like how to get good gear

[tight kiln]

https://vxtwitter.com/pathofexile/status/1893762513805652188

i mean you dont really need good gear to finish campaign just barely enough.

[covert frigate]

Yeh and i gotta learn that somewhere too

[tight kiln]

can try ps totems

with whisperer

[tight oak]

bought it

been farming flawless stones instead

i need to figure out how to either solve mana now

or preferrably find out how to get a good quiver to reroll into mfa

idk how to craft the mfa quiver

[tight kiln]

https://youtu.be/9NK4gwcqFp4?si=6xBskSDV51VYuOmB

[tight oak]

and yeah like i said

conner makes good builds but he makes them from the top down

he never has a good read on leaguestart circumstances

[tight oak]

palsterons is fine but early maps is going to be a struggle

you are squishy as hell until you get lvl 85-88+ and have good life rolls on gear

[covert frigate]

this is what i have rn in act 7

https://pobb.in/SNUM9D88mBtd

i think im doing pretty well

i do have to toggle between haste and anger for boss fights

can you guys explain to me why Anger gives 24% extra dmg even tho the build focuses on lightning dmg? i dont have any skill tree node that scales fire dmg

[tight oak]

anger gives a ton of flat damage on its own

[covert frigate]

is there an aura that gives flat lightning dmg?

[tight oak]

wrath gives some flat damage but not as much

hatred gives no flat damage but is extremely good if you are doing phys to cold

[tight oak]

your ele damage with attacks on bow is worse dps than flat dmg btw

same with amulet

flat dmg is king with LA

[covert frigate]

flat dmg as in phys?

[tight oak]

any

you are a tri-ele build

you do not need to stack lightning specifically and in fact is better if you are doing lightning + at least 1 of fire/cold

cause ele dmg with attacks is a worse dmg link than trinity if setup, it's just more generic

unfortunately you went with dex=mana on your first ascendancy

but not a particularly significant setback

your next lab needs to 100% be awakened fork, no exceptions

[covert frigate]

this one?

[tight oak]

yea

whose build guide is this

this is fucking garbage

[covert frigate]

im using this for acts

https://maxroll.gg/poe/build-guides/ranger-leveling-build-guide#leveling-progression-header

[tight oak]

oh you're not following the passive tree it's outlining

[covert frigate]

yeh it doesnt have a pob for some reason and the passive tree doesnt display on the website for me so im using the skill tree from connor's build instead

[tight oak]

oh no, conner

[covert frigate]

lmao am i fucked?

[tight oak]

you probably have like

14k gold right

should be easy to respec

[covert frigate]

i think?

i can respec with gold?

[tight oak]

yeah

you just need to talk to the settler dudes

[covert frigate]

ok

the maxroll leveling guide doesnt have info on ascendency tho, so im not sure how to spec it

[tight oak]

https://discord.com/channels/558322816416743459/1343387321302777957

get in here and stream me your tree

[covert frigate]

let me boot up the game again lmao

[tight oak]

?

[covert frigate]

Here

Youre so quiet

Ok

I can here you now

My frame rate is gonna die the moment i hit town lmao

[tight oak]

is this normal

[covert frigate]

Its cause so many players spam mtx vfx

Does happen when fighting elits

My acc rating is really low rn tho

[tight kiln]

acc 100% is the first thing to go for

[covert frigate]

I think i have decent bows tho

I just don't have thr currency to craft sockets that i need onto them yey

[tight kiln]

i never use currency for campaign until i get better gear

i rather struggle than use

[covert frigate]

Lmao

I just use cheap curr anyway

Like some common essense and chroms

Damn wtf that bow is crazy

I don't think i should be usimg that yet

I have trinity

I was running trinty before anyway

[tight oak]

i sometimes use my currency early

[covert frigate]

I stopped stream

Yeh i still gotta figure out how to spec passive trees

Annd my game crashed lmao

yeh my build before can still handle mobbing pretty quickly but doesnt deal enough dmg to kill elites and bosses easily

so this is a tri ele build rather than a lightning build huh? didnt know that

i thought its lghtning build

[tight oak]

yea with remotely decent gear LA should be slaughtering campaign, regardless of target

literally the only reason we use lightning arrow is because it functions well mechanically

if ice shot was better for clear we'd use it

or if "insert bow skill here" was better we'd use it

[tight kiln]

tornado shot nerfed

[tight oak]

RIP TS

also

what is the build you're planning to follow

[covert frigate]

how do you guys look at a skill and know how to build it?

[tight oak]

i would strongly advise against conner's manaforged arrows since it's super bad without investment

i don't know how to build skills

but after like 2.5 years of playing a bow leaguestart (and the fact that bow attacks are very simple to build)

i know what's good and what isn't

btw

you should get sniper's mark linked to mark on hit support

so you don't have to click it ever

[covert frigate]

oh yeh, i was planning to do that but forgot

[tight kiln]

i dont

i only know minions

[covert frigate]

idk why havoc doesnt make a pob for this build

[tight kiln]

since ive played minions for like

9 out of 10 leagues

or some shit

its mostly just playing the same variation of builds for X amount of times and you will get the hang of it

[covert frigate]

maxroll requires me to turn on hardware acceleration on browser and that makes games laggy

[tight kiln]

just dont use maxroll

lol

[covert frigate]

honestly, im really enjoying bow

i might play more of this

woc didnt feel good to play

[tight kiln]

dont expect it to play this way on a normal ascendancy

LOL

[covert frigate]

yeh i can tell

[tight kiln]

but LA is easy

ive never played LA tho

the only bow builds ive played are cast on crits

[tight oak]

no it actually just feels this good on normal ascendancies

leveling as LA is obscenely good

like there's honestly not a lot of reason for any ranger ascendancy to just

level as LA, respec at blood aqueducts to real build

also it might be time to slam the mfa reroll

[tight kiln]

im actually bored of poe1

i hate this idol shit

any time i want to try a strat i gotta rebuy everything

[blissful plume]

the way they worded derange means the skill will cost mana and es

[blissful plume]

wdym, havoc does have pobs for LA and Rain of Arrows

just not for phrecia ascendancies

https://youtu.be/ACGM9su49Jg?si=c64xkHUv9-ScZYje his old vid

[tight oak]

this damn quiver is draining my divines

30d invested into it so far

[tight kiln]

meanwhile i have 1 div

this event is only for the top 1%

[blissful plume]

there's always poe2 race event to look forward to

[tight oak]

i'm not even a top 1%er, i'm usually like 8% at best 😭

i just picked a farming strategy that no one else seems to be doing

i am the niche market

[tight kiln]

im not racing lmao

i cant even get maps to drop

[tight oak]

each breach ring is 1/60 of a divine

[blissful plume]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RF2nPrTmTCgvOiGo-wIcBC28Vz0RW6fB6mAlTvM3gKQ/htmlview?gid=0#gid=0 idols

[covert frigate]

made it act 8

pretty good pace considering how little timee i can play

[blissful plume]

merc lab

[tight oak]

xd

(absolutely not 52d, that's vastly overpriced)

[blissful plume]

oh yes

[blissful plume]

https://youtu.be/BcQYeRa5y48?si=0Uc_DDyMSTnVkV94&t=230 kingsmarch sheet

[tight kiln]

fuck fubgun lmso

[blissful plume]

ooo

[tight kiln]

rich

[blissful plume]

can't really sell it if i have to use it since its giving me ritual jun and einhar shit

[tight kiln]

swapped to harvest today and its ass

oh well

[blissful plume]

even with the idol u wanted?

[tight oak]

is the usual

buy farming strat while cheap --> abuse --> pivot to better strat --> make video on farming guide --> sell now that it's giga expensive

he's a shitter

also harvest is insanely good wdym

are you doing crop rotation + no wilt?

also found out kboc doesn't seem to actually apply bleed so dropping the 4 point wheel

[toxic wing]

it seems people are finding unique stats already

[tight kiln]

Oh theres unique for crop rotation? I havent researched any of the unique ones

[tight oak]

crop rotation is what makes harvest broken this league

people are getting like 17-18k juice a map at the highest

so consistent 2d/map

WOOO

cost me like 45d and a shit ton of gold but we hit

t2 life t1 movement

[tight kiln]

Meanwhile i farmed 3c yesterday

[toxic wing]

Pro

But yeah you kinda need the 2x2 idols

Atleast most strategies i have seen pretty much use some

Tujen's still keeping the divine hostage meanwhile

[tight oak]

harvest doesn't use any 2x2s at all i think

but most of their idols are giga expensive now cause people caught onto the strat

my breach strat is still literally like

2 div investment

and makes solid money

you can start farming it in white maps too

it's literally just setting up your breaches so that bosses have 20% chance to drop a stone, 20% chance for that stone to become flawless

if you don't care about flawless cause those don't really sell while the regular ones do

you can use 2x1s to bias towards specific breaches (chayula>esh>the rest)

and/or 1x1s to get up to 100% chance for certain bosses to duplicate

and then you just scarab 1x breachlord, the rest regular breach scarabs, craft breach

the only bad thing is that breach on map device isn't unlocked until you're deeper into the atlas

and that not having map slots means you get 2-4 less breaches per map

but like the strat is there and doesn't rely on insane idol-mod combos

entirely functional off of 1 mod-2 mods, prefix suffix

[tight kiln]

every idol is getting expensive

so cant farm

essence is the cheapest so far

you need 1 2x2 idol at about 100c

[raw crag]

welp, since the launch 'weekend' has settled
i guess i can now say this was an easy prediction before the league event even started

[tight kiln]

whisperer is stronger tho

lightning strike is just solid

[raw crag]

it is for sure, but majority of ppl aren't going to be obtaining hundreds of divines in such a short span of time

[tight kiln]

power siphon coming in 2nd

lmao

[raw crag]

yeah, thanks to the gauntlet

ben & jung showing everyone how strong it actually was

[tight oak]

again

my strat is literally 2d, i checked the prices

also it's cheap to get 1-mods and recombinate them

[tight kiln]

2d is something i cannot afford

but essence is the cheapest iirc

[covert frigate]

@tight oak what asc should i grab next? Do i want to get the dex = mana so i can grab the asc that are locked behind that later?

[tight oak]

awakened fork-->power/frenzy charges-->+1 mana/dex-->+10 rage after spending 200 mana

[covert frigate]

Huh, thats very different from what connor said before league start

Guess we're ditching that plan

[tight oak]

alright so step 1 to succeeding

is understanding that connor is a talented endgame build maker

but in leaguestart situations he is fucking terrible

also it depends on what build you're trying to follow

since you're whisperer i can't recommend staying as MFA going into maps

palsteron's KBoClustering is far better as a leaguestarting build

[blissful plume]

power siphon mines are also great

[tight oak]

yeah that one too

i personally don't like mines but i mean

steelmage is playing it so you know it's good

[blissful plume]

min power charges really help so much for it

[tight oak]

also i just realized

connor's MFA whisperer has an extra gem in it lmao

on his post-indigon pob

okay yeah im changing this pob

[blissful plume]

oh nice money

[covert frigate]

Bruh ive died to the 2nd lab like 3 times now cause the game keeps freezing and i die during the freeze

This isnt even hard i just keep dying cause the game fucks up

[tight oak]

im getting spammed DMs for my breach strat 😭

[tight oak]

big, yeah people need it for tamings

[covert frigate]

Ok finally done with cruel lab

Guess i just permanently have max frenzy now

I can take the frenzy manaforge arrow out now

[tight kiln]

You cannot just use a streamer build and expect the same results they are playing a different game

Like Jungroan has a 1 div poison blade trap build and he killed uber shaper with it are you gonna follow it

No because he managed to dodge every mechanic

Oh its poison seismic

[blissful plume]

yeah u need skill to be able to replicate streamer builds because they've been playing the game since the dawn of time

[tight kiln]

are you gonna copy ben's build in HC SSF where he killed all ubers

no you arent

lmao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7HX8-D_uZ0&ab_channel=Ben

bro did ubers with 700k dps

you can have 20x the dps and you cant down ubers

he managed to dodge every mechanic

[blissful plume]

also why are you following connor's mfa leveling build so closely when we've said its not that good early on

[tight kiln]

dont share keep the idol prices low

[tight oak]

also connor's post-indigon pob has an extra skill gem lmao

i'm dropping the enduring cry on his pob to fit it and putting the last socket as inspiration on LA to sustain mana, i don't want to press more buttons

[covert frigate]

I didn't see you guys say that until like yesterday when snoop told me

Im not in this channel 24/7 you know

So should i stick with havoc's leveling guide and transition to smth else once i get into maps or what?

[blissful plume]

look up palestron's kb of clustering and whisperer power siphon totems or mines

then see which of those u want to swap to

[covert frigate]

I don't like totems

Mines i don't think ill enjoy either but ill look it up

Generally, i want builds where i actually kill enemies with my own attacks

[blissful plume]

well power siphon can be a build you use to transition to Lightning Strike

its just easier to get going

[covert frigate]

Lightning Strike is for mapping?

[blissful plume]

for everything

easier to scale mana stacker with it too

MFA requires more moving parts than LS

[covert frigate]

Ok ill look into that

Lightning Strike sounds like its what i like

[blissful plume]

this

steelmage's build has his LS setup

[covert frigate]

I paste that into pob?

[blissful plume]

yeah paste the link into pob

[tight oak]

swapped to mfa and uh

im not a fan atm

[covert frigate]

ok should i try to transition into lightning strike now, or wait until i get to t16 where i get a lot of currency and can easily switch builds?

[tight oak]

feels clunky

[covert frigate]

im quite lost on what to do rn

cause my build is doing pretty well rn, so i feel like if i try to switch now, ill have trouble getting through the rest of the acts

[blissful plume]

Steel's pob says 85+ then swap to LS

Also you're evasion/es but with an emphasis on evasion

100% spell suppression is the only way to survive

If u have no problems with mfa, just level to 85 and see if you still want to swap

[tight oak]

okay I fucking hate MFA actually

[blissful plume]

U swapped already?

[tight oak]

yeah

i'm swapping back to KB

mfa felt fucking miserable for me imo

like when storm rain procs it does gorilla damage

but you need to make sure so many things line up just right so that storm rain procs consistently

cause sometimes you just don't have the mana to proc it, or your LA to manaforge proc ratio is bad

[tight kiln]

[tight oak]

like theoretically

it is the strongest build in the league

but god if the fucking position of the sun is off the build bricks

and like i don't need

1 trillion damage

i'm not going into delve

1 billion is enough to 1 shot everything in the game that isn't in those damn mines

it's alright

it may have been a miserable experience full of suffering

but i'm being offered 110d for the quiver so i'm happy

[blissful plume]

Could make it a bosser

[blissful plume]

Earn those divs killing uber elder

[tight oak]

i can do that without playing a build that feels like dog to play

[blissful plume]

[tight kiln]

im still on 5 link

i might swap to poison BAMA

someone from cutedog server deleting everything at 700k poison dps LMAO

[tight oak]

just dropped 15d for unnatural instinct + 4% chaos res light of meaning and uhh wow

i just went from -60% chaos res to 88% in 2 jewel sockets

so thats chaos res sorted out

[blissful plume]

I'm still on 4L

[blissful plume]

Which part of the tree were you able to pull off that combo?

[toxic wing]

Is it another fubgun strat

[tight kiln]

man i want to end myself buying idols from people nobody ever FUCKING RESPOND

[blissful plume]

90c idols?

[tight kiln]

not even its like 40

[blissful plume]

Probably 40c is too low for them to stop mapping

Or they relisted as 60c because some shit tuber told them to keep pricing up whenever someone whispers them for the item

[tight kiln]

1st void stone strongge

[tight kiln]

2nd strongge

@toxic wing

[toxic wing]

Bleh

Guess i'll remove the blight idols

[tight kiln]

crop rotation on a shit level is still pretty nice

im probably farming to switch to BAMA poison

[blissful plume]

motherfucker accepts invite and waits for me to go to his hideout

[toxic wing]

prob a poe 2 player

gotta teach them the trade rules

[tight kiln]

Ye its the normal mana stacker area

My archmage DD uses the same spot but different set up

Used a militant faith for the keystone and turned the evasion and armor node at the bottom to have elemental immunity while on consecrated ground.

Then used a rational doctrine, balanced strength and intelligence to get consecrated ground while standing

[tight kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfXlWip4yc0&ab_channel=SnooBAE85

for me later

[toxic wing]

Now they're gonna rise in price

[tight kiln]

im still doing crop rotation

its good enough evne with alc and go

[toxic wing]

I'm still doing what ever atm

Expedition/ritual with legion mainly

Unless it's gwennen insta skip

[blissful plume]

I've no choice but to mainly ritual with a side of breach expedition jun einhar

Also is there a way to refresh kirac shop or its impossible?

[toxic wing]

Not that i'm aware of
unless you use those scrolls

[blissful plume]

But the scrolls only work for his missions and he doesn't have those anymore right?

[toxic wing]

Did they get rid of the reports as well then?

Cant check trade atm

But if they're on trade they're prob still there

[blissful plume]

The reports drop but access to kirac missions isn't possible right

I don't rmb seeing them whenever I talk to him

Or getting daily missions

[toxic wing]

I have one kirac mission in White maps atm iirc

i remember doing one atleast at the start of mapping on day 2 iirc

I'll check later to see if i got a yellow one since i just got to yellow maps

[tight kiln]

you can.

open a kirac mission

@blissful plume

[tight kiln]

[blissful plume]

Hax

[tight kiln]

i only have like

48% chance not to wilt

[tight kiln]

[tight kiln]

its honestly not that bad when its literally alc and go

[tight oak]

My friend has like one of the best harvest boards in the league rn

Most hes gotten from a single t16 was like 27k lifeforce

iirc 96% no wilt, >100% inc lifeforce, +explicit modifier effect is being worked on, full scarabs, 8mod

[blissful plume]

no kirac missions given daily?

[tight kiln]

Ye idk. I also dont have anything. That's why we rush middle wheel in atlas

[blissful plume]

im pretty sure we still get daily kirac even if we didn't rush middle for atlas

[tight kiln]

The Legacy of Phrecia event will be extended by a month (it will end in late April).

[blissful plume]

Did they say there's a change for .2 deadline for poe2 or its still releasing in a month

[tight kiln]

no clue

[vapid crow]

How much HP do you guys usually aim for

I capped off all my resistances already

[blissful plume]

Lvl x 300

[tight kiln]

as much as you can

[toxic wing]

a bit late but i still get hose

those

[blissful plume]

How?

[tight oak]

ah yes, just have checks notes 27,000 life at lvl 90

[tight oak]

life pool is always relative to what defenses you are scaling

for some builds 4k combined life/es makes you immortal

for others 4k means you get one shot by anything that looks at you funny

in campaign, you fit in life wherever you can as long as you have damage that feels good vs bosses

i.e. killing/phasing bosses in under 5 seconds

most endgame builds will have around 4-6k life/8k life+es/13k+ ES with CI

[tight kiln]

Unless if you are a boss killer

Then you have 600 hp

And reserve 500 of it.

[blissful plume]

Or was it 300 x act no.

[blissful plume]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12Dw0mKtY5t9hjwaHFgrt1TIZReJmKJNDSoE9LQmF0aI/copy recombinator calc

[tight kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox2rKuVBIa4

[tight oak]

kalandras touch being only 4d is wild

[toxic wing]

They're being printed so yeah

Empy's group got like 12 hh and a lot of magebloods

T17 are something else

[toxic wing]

for anyone wondering why

or how

if you get that mod on a relic it's gg noobs

[tight kiln]

Bro... Headhunter is 6c.

[tight oak]

no it's not

it's been hovering like 40-60d

expected it to go down some more today actually

[tight kiln]

huh someone showed me a screenshot of it being 6c

i give up on this league anyway. im still on 5 link and made like 0 progress these few days since i dont really ave any motivation to play

[toxic wing]

found a 243 widowhail the game wants me to continue with mfa

still stuck in yellow maps farming for currency though

[tight kiln]

wtf 243

bro richer than me already

[blissful plume]

spent about 100c to swap to LS and i'm just standing still tanking shit

but wilds is calling

[vapid crow]

how are you guys that tanky I just keep dying

[blissful plume]

Insta leech with mom

[tight oak]

someone paid me 50d for an item i priced at 18d that i bought for 8d

and proceeded to gamble a full 9/9 house of mirrors within the hour

successfully, i should clarify

and yeah honestly i think it's time to stop lying to myself

i should just play LS

braindead, practically infinite recovery, very easy to build and scale damage/defenses with

[vapid crow]

how do I leech if I'm playing minions

[toxic wing]

By rolling a ls character

If you're playing a minion build kuo is your guy though,he's the minion pro

[vapid crow]

@tight kiln

[tight kiln]

what minion are you playing

@vapid crow

i think i wanna try a zero to hero flicker strike

[vapid crow]

I'm playing minion army SRS

[tight kiln]

which ascendency

arakaali?

[vapid crow]

shadow arakaali

[tight kiln]

the bare bones basic of a minion build is always life and block

im only at home at like 2pm

currently at work

lemme see your pob

you playing poison srs im assuming?

[vapid crow]

yea

[tight kiln]

easy af

i hate srs tho

[vapid crow]

how to show pob

[tight kiln]

uhhh

you go top left and export

but i think you need to remove the points from the ascendancy tree

my work laptop doesnt have pob

top left, import/export, there one that generates a code, then you share to pobb

then copy the pobb link and paste it here

[covert frigate]

Click on the "share" button first

[vapid crow]

https://pobb.in/UFiCfkWY_B-I

[covert frigate]

Damn -55 res at lv 81

[vapid crow]

I'm using purity of elements

in game I'm capped on all res

oh wait I need to set skills

[tight kiln]

you can import your charatcer sir

have to allow your session ID to be captured by pob then you can import any character you have

holy shit your tree

are you following any guides

[vapid crow]

not really?

[tight kiln]

i am in pain

are you able to wait till i am home

[vapid crow]

sure

[tight kiln]

in like 3hrs

in the mean time try to port your character to pob and paste gear + skills here as well

[covert frigate]

I love it when a new player shows up in the channel and show the vets their non build guide tree

Its so funny

(im one of them)

[tight kiln]

oh.. you have so much to change on your tree

[vapid crow]

https://pobb.in/UNd8oJkS_op6

[tight kiln]

there we go

wait why are you using ward

oh.... dear.....

[vapid crow]

because I'm a new player

[tight kiln]

[vapid crow]

[tight kiln]

okay

you have a lot to change

especially for your skills

[vapid crow]

Kuo is not coming home the moment he opened my build he coughed blood fr

[tight kiln]

okay but you have a general idea of what to do.

no its not as bad as it looks

its a lot better than some of the new players ive seen from before

[vapid crow]

I did find a guide for minions so most of it is similar

just some parts I was like let's try deviating a little

[tight kiln]

which guide

if you still have the link

also, how much chaos do you have

[vapid crow]

https://pobb.in/Ofp2g_uMM6rY

[tight kiln]

oh

its ghazzy's build?

[vapid crow]

who? I guess so?

[tight kiln]

ghazzytv

on youtube

okay so. there's a few stuff to take note

#1 never use triad grip unless you know what you are building.

poison damage effectively takes 30% of the damage from chaos and physical component of a hit to apply said poison

in this case, your poison will come from the flat Envy aura and the remaining physical hit from your SRS (because SRS converts 60% of phys to fire)

traid will change all the physical to something else

according to the color of the socket

so in this case, your srs is doing fire and cold damage

[vapid crow]

oh

[tight kiln]

you need to change your glove to preferably an armor piece with life and resists

try not to rely on purity of elements for starters

thats the first change you need to do

your build has no damage relating to poison

its also the reason why you are probably struggling.

spiders are hard carrying you rn

but poison srs dont use spiders later on

[vapid crow]

so gloves armor and boots swap?

[tight kiln]

no just gloves for now.

idk how much chaos you have to swap

or how much currencies

because a lot needs to be changed

[vapid crow]

ok

[tight kiln]

how much chaos do you have

[vapid crow]

I think 40+?

[tight kiln]

ye thats about just enough for some decent changes

get a glove with armor base, some life (like 70+?), resists

same for boots, but with 30% move speed pls

see if you can scale to a certain stat before it gets expensive

dont spend more than 3 to 5c a piece

so half the reason you're dying is also because of glancing blows

block is suppose to block off 100% of the damage, glancing blow doubles your block chance but you take 65% of the hit

[vapid crow]

armour do I look for a 6 link or just keep whatever I have atm

[tight kiln]

i dont think you have enough for a 6 link

the issue is that you need to change a lot of shit so i dont want you to spend all 40c on a 6 link and continue to suffer lol

remove atziri's promise

it doesnt work on minions

swap to rumi's concoction

try to get one with at least 10% block chance

ignore spell block % for now

dont spend more than 8c for this

You need to change your skills and all your links too

[vapid crow]

[tight kiln]

let me know if you are confused on what to buy for gloves and boots

also, how many regret orbs do you have

[vapid crow]

I need to check but I should have like 20?

or more than that

[tight kiln]

good. you will need all and more

[vapid crow]

should have a total of 30+ including the current refund points

[tight kiln]

settle your boots gloves and rumi's first

[covert frigate]

Bruh the scorpion boss wastes so much time

Wtf?

[tight kiln]

[covert frigate]

You have to slowly wait for it to go through the phase transition hallway, can't run ahead or it won't actually open the next arena for you?

And in phase 2 it goes invuln constantly?

[tight kiln]

yes

the hall way you have to wait for the tail to attack you

then move forward to the next point

[covert frigate]

Fucking ggg

[tight kiln]

rinse and repeat

you cleared acts no? its the same

[covert frigate]

Most acts boss don't have time wasting mechanics like that

They have a few invuln phase and thats about it

Wasted so much time that the vastiri desert instance resetted

[tight kiln]

[tight oak]

im having a stroke looking at this tree

[blissful plume]

isn't that how shadow minions are supposed to look?

[vapid crow]

I am honored to the cause of your demise

[tight kiln]

No

[tight kiln]

its okay i will fix it

i probably play flicker strike

sell my stuff

Do a zero to hero flicker strike

[tight oak]

to be fair

The only time I ever played minions

It was poison srs necro and I could buy most of the gear flatout

[tight kiln]

okay

im home

@vapid crow have you gotten the stuff?

[vapid crow]

not yet I was doing my work stuff

just finished was about to go find the gear

armour gloves and boots?

[tight kiln]

oh ok

not armor yet

gloves boots and a rumi's

[vapid crow]

no like armour main stat

[tight kiln]

yeah for now

we get some basics up and running so that you can run t16s comfortably first

[vapid crow]

socket colour same?

[tight kiln]

no. do you have chromes?

[vapid crow]

40+

[tight kiln]

usually we jkust ignore socket for gloves and boots

how many jewelers you got

[vapid crow]

50+?

[tight kiln]

yikes lol

need more

[vapid crow]

I was doing some socket reforging on the unique armor

[tight kiln]

dont do that when you are low on currency

[vapid crow]

any substat to look for on gloves?

[tight kiln]

life resists

just something basic for now

if possible some int or dex

oh nvm

no need int. just dex maybe

lol i literally changed your tree and you gained 400 hp

i still have 10 points to spend

[vapid crow]

?

1c

[tight kiln]

hp sir

armor based but you need hp

like this

that is actually a decent glove lmao

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Phrecia/gKJvbJ6cQ

[covert frigate]

oh, since theres no more atlas tree in this events, do maps no longer have bonus objectives?

[tight kiln]

there still is

you need to do it to unlock more idol socket and map device stuff

@vapid crow either one of these

[vapid crow]

how do I filter by main stat

[covert frigate]

so is the most efficient strat still just do maps at the highest tier as possible without worrying about finishing bonus objectives of lower tier versions of the maps?

[tight kiln]

no you do objective while clearing maps

white tier maps = magic
yellow tier maps = rare
red tier maps = rare + corrupted

[covert frigate]

does doing bonus objectives of higher tier versions of maps counts as finishing the objectives of lower tier versions of the same maps or no?

[tight kiln]

yes but you need void stones for those

which requires you to hit t16s in the first place

[covert frigate]

hm

[tight kiln]

sec lemme go in poe

[covert frigate]

so i should rush tier 16 and finish any objectives that are convinient?

[tight kiln]

yes

but i suggest just doing it while clearing the maps on your way to t16

so your basic maps have some base t16 ones

[covert frigate]

lmao i spent like 3 days trying to finishing all objectives of each tier the first time i reached endgame

[tight kiln]

like

if you get any white tier maps

just slam a transmute on it

and run

if you get yellow, slam an alchemy or orb of binding

orb of binding makes your maps turn rare as well

[covert frigate]

yeh i do slam transmutes and alchemies on maps when running

[tight kiln]

when you finish the quest for eater and exarch the first time, they drop these void stones

each voidstone you socket will make the base maps increase tiers

so no voidstone

1 stone

2 stone

so at the end, every single map is t16

[vapid crow]

wait what the gray stat mean

[tight kiln]

atlas bonus objective

[covert frigate]

so at 4 voidstones, all maps count as 16, so if you finish objective of 1 map, it counts as finishing all objectives of maps with that name?

[tight kiln]

yes

but by then you need to rare + corrupt

since its red

if i recall correctly

lemme go into another toon

oh apparently not

you need to check the atlas for the bonus objective

damn your atlas be whacky later on

@vapid crow https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Phrecia/ORn5X80CE can snag this one

[vapid crow]

got it

[tight kiln]

which glove did you get?

[vapid crow]

this one is ok?

[tight kiln]

ye it works, though suffixed is maxed out

so you cant craft a resist

i suggest the 2 socket one for now

this one

open prefix open suffix

[vapid crow]

you can craft on two substats?

[tight kiln]

nope

but you have some leeway to craft a prefix or a suffix depending

[vapid crow]

ok

[tight kiln]

okay very cool.

with my tree, that boots and glove you just bought

[vapid crow]

boots I have this old piece I can just craft on HP?

[tight kiln]

do you have enough resist?

without purity

[tight kiln]

ye lightning is an issue lmao

uhhh

we can harvest swap cold resist to lightning

the beauty of crafting in poe1

[tight kiln]

oh ye that works

[vapid crow]

gloves still has a empty slot I can craft on

[tight kiln]

craft lightning + chaos if you have

[vapid crow]

[tight kiln]

ye okay

because the tree will remove some chaos resist away

[vapid crow]

no purity

[tight kiln]

good. your chaos will dip back to below 75 but all good for now

so what you need to do now is

okay

how many fusings do you have

[vapid crow]

29

I've been mostly playing like ssf

[tight kiln]

okay

more than enough

so we have 2 red sockets on gloves

what you are going to do is

go to the bench

craft 3 socket

with jewelers

wait

wait

[vapid crow]

not 4?

[tight kiln]

check how much 3 blue costs in chromes

no

[vapid crow]

120

[tight kiln]

ok ye this is the problem