Path of Exile

[tight kiln]

gender swap rehan i think

either its rehan

or rosa

but rosa has tanned skin?

[blissful plume]

They said genderswapping was involved

[tight kiln]

shopuld be gender swap rehan

no clue

wait for the video

my chinese is trash i cant read for shit

[blissful plume]

Same

[tight kiln]

iris skin + all 3 summon skin + wings

TAKE MY MONEYYY

wtf

[heavy blaze]

not HC at least

kuzuha reach map after 16h on HC

for beginner pretty good

[blissful plume]

Just shows how easy HC is

[heavy blaze]

nah nah we talking about poe2 you can also dying from just breathing

[low ermine]

how do you search mod in poe2 trade for unique timeless jewel? one that adds stuff per passive skill

[tight kiln]

you cant

the trade is actual dogshit for that

[copper mortar]

they do also need to rework how mapping works since it's just worse elder circles atm

[tight kiln]

https://torchlight.xd.com/en/news/single?id=stbdcuyPDtLn @blissful plume

@blissful plume wtf

[blissful plume]

Huh

Then what are pact points for now?

[tight kiln]

combat pactspirit i guess

24 mins more till en video

[tight kiln]

@blissful plume starting

okay im playing iris

[tight kiln]

can exchange flame sands to flame elementium now LMAO

free legendary pet

okay

im actually hyped

[blissful plume]

Did you finish SS20 for the drop pets?

[tight kiln]

nah

i didnt even hit dummy cap

LOL

i dont think i even hit deep space

[blissful plume]

Lol

[copper mortar]

got a second ingenuity

[blissful plume]

Erosion magus gets a counterattack noble skill

Can we just self ignite to trigger it?

If we can, might be op

[tight kiln]

why ignite

just wilt?

[tight kiln]

rich get richer moment

meanwhile i still havent seen 1 audience

[blissful plume]

Is there self wilt?

I mean self damage

[tight kiln]

huh

why you need to damage yourelf

[blissful plume]

Erosion magus counterattack

[tight kiln]

counter attack = a hit isnt it

just use on hit wilt?

[blissful plume]

It's when you get hit

But does it count self hits

Also damn strike skills buffed

Maybe gemma1 flame slash is back

[heavy blaze]

what is this season ? dodgeball with arcana?

all i saw was effect you need to dodge and avoid

[tight kiln]

just play gemma 3

shes not nerfed

[tight kiln]

idk but its something new from poe finally

[blissful plume]

Also on death effects aren't that bad

Like they're already throwing things to kill u without having to worry about dying while looting

Also loot has more range than poe2

And mindless zoom zoom

Won't die if you look away for 3s

[pale atlas]

I don't know what I hate more, death effects, or burning ground

it's fun when you have both

last map had both, + mobs that leave those purple bullshit all over the floor for like 10s

[copper mortar]

"poe is everything, poe is world" -Ohayama

the next poe1 league should be something like this i guess just so they can focus more on poe2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I_CeL6_E5c

[covert frigate]

spoken like a true endurance gamer

[covert frigate]

Those are the worst, just make you have to stand still and wait

[covert frigate]

Wait the life lost from chaos inoculation doesnt get past to ES

This is scary, damn

I don't have other defensive layers setup yet

[pale atlas]

literally one tribute away

[covert frigate]

Maybe i should refrain from CI for now

Until i get eldritch battery and mind over matter first

[covert frigate]

Alright yeh ill leave ci for endgame ill just grab some more dmg nodes for now

This lava blacksmith boss has a really bullshit slam attack with huge aoe and perfect tracking that you can't even dodge out of

[blissful plume]

you should only do CI with at least 3k ES and 3k mana if you're also doing MoM

[covert frigate]

ok

also damn, conductivity doesnt count as exposure so the exposure node doesnt buff it

[blissful plume]

of course not

conductivity is a curse

use orb of storms to apply exposure

[covert frigate]

This is the part where i look into the whole dual weapon set thing and set up optimal set to apply curse

[blissful plume]

you can even add blink to ur 2nd set

[pale atlas]

I finally finished the T15 quest

Tutorial is finally over

Now to chill map

[blissful plume]

wdym chill map? how do you chill in poe2 endgame?

[pale atlas]

just mindlessly farm

put music in the background on

although, it's a bit annoying having to pile effects into maps

and then carefully pick the one map I juice up

[covert frigate]

Bruh i just died to like 3 random mob that just walked up to me and started attacking cause the game comoletely froze and i couldn't do anything

I keep telling myself that i should wait for ggg to optimize game performance more before playing but i boot the game up anyway cause its so addicting

Ok why is utzaal specifically so laggy

Just running through map tanks my framerate way more than any other area

[blissful plume]

@tight kiln do you think iris trait path would be whirlwind tango, happiest reunion and nurturing breeze?

[tight kiln]

sedc

sec

ye probably

but the problem is you are literally a burst bot until level 75

i think frost spirits will be OP again

[blissful plume]

Yeah probably have to wait for 75 before going the first 2 traits

What's the ultimate for all spirits?

Erosion and stone are just aoe right

[tight kiln]

frost spirits is literally aoe frost explosion

and you can freeze

lone walker boots is like

OP as shit now

[blissful plume]

These gloves are op too

Fixed costs at 1 is gonna be crazy

If this drops early, probably no need to wait for 75 for new iris

Selena players gonna want the beam length instead of the other 2

[blissful plume]

We going LE now?

Also no need to go thru so many attack and cast speed rolls?

[tight kiln]

LE

?

oh

idk

i only played LE on closed beta and got tired of the monolith lmao

https://x.com/sirgog_POE/status/1875405879446819061

sirgog (@sirgog_POE) on X

And... there's a NEW temporalis related exploit... Old ones were fixed but new ones were discovered...

It's not limited to Temporalis.

Won't give replication instructions. It requires people do a step that wouldn't come up often in legit play and that will leave clear logs.

Twitter · Jan 4, 2025, 4:56 AM

[blissful plume]

I mean LE's drop only affixes

[tight kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLjkDqS_0jw

[blissful plume]

Oh armor in torchlight affects elemental damage

Not just phys

[blissful plume]

Huh? No longer gives cast speed and attack speed, now gives cast speed and attack speed

Oh ice imbue nerfed, no more explosions

[daring tree]

Has Ice Strike monk + bell been nerfed yet?

[blissful plume]

Only exploits

[tight kiln]

nice got this

saved 4 points

[tight kiln]

+1

[quiet wind]

https://x.com/jellyhoshiumi/status/1875834102903173319

Jelly Hoshiumi 🌠🎀 / Phase Connect (@jellyhoshiumi) on X

STOP TELLING ME TO BUY MORE STASHES IF YOURE GONNA FILL IT ALL WITH TRASH ANYWAYYYYYYYY @.starknights

Twitter · Jan 5, 2025, 9:17 AM

[tight kiln]

monehh

what is breach time to farm expedition

[tight kiln]

pls gimme something

rip. 13 exalts tho

44% quant this time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nabs-gFHueI

[blissful plume]

Oh with this we can keep proccing counterattack

[toxic wing]

that's not for everyone right?

[blissful plume]

It's the 1 week login reward

[tight kiln]

its for everyone

[heavy blaze]

will we get a new patch ?

[gleaming palm]

oh?

[tight kiln]

server isnt even down

lol

[copper mortar]

also it's sunday

FUCK

didn't lose the portals thankfully

[tight kiln]

rich get richer

[copper mortar]

i also have a 3 socket piller of the caged god too

[tight kiln]

is that supposed to be expensive

i sold one for 5ex last time lol

[copper mortar]

idk maybe go for stat stacking once nerfs happen

oh my

[tight kiln]

rich get richer

i havent even done arbiter

[copper mortar]

i sold one of the keys since it gave 186 ex and last one i needed was 56

[tight kiln]

doesnt matter for me

you dont do the fight without blink

its impossible

well possible but you need to have 0 human error

[tight kiln]

wtf lol

[heavy blaze]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxk9GVVWK-fmpiOis3uiuyUedZkLDvNwko?si=WuZTvThzNtjXM_OK

[spiral yew]

always funny to see other people chara got killed

especially after i got off screened by a skeleton mage just a bit ago

[copper mortar]

i have no idea why they made porcupines have delayed cast on death now

[spiral yew]

and to make things better

not all of them explode

[covert frigate]

You have to stick your eyes on the screen to see which ones will and won't explode

[heavy blaze]

https://www.twitch.tv/kanae_2434/clip/VastEmpathicHamTebowing-Ev6hhUUH48q7byxB

got stun locked by delirum shitters

[covert frigate]

bruh

im done with this damn game

game runs like shit and boss fights are just full of bullshit

wont play anymore until ggg fix all this shit

[heavy blaze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TtXXdbUWpo its spreading

[copper mortar]

something something richer

[toxic wing]

oh mine prob hasn't reset yet then
it's still at day 3 with the defaut rewards

[blissful plume]

it hasn't started

9th is the new season

[toxic wing]

is it out already which champions will be free?

prob won't be playing gemma 2 again

[blissful plume]

all champs except new iris will be free again

even selena

but they nerfed beams so much

it wasn't even overperforming last season

you can try gemma1 einharjar

[toxic wing]

wasnt beams good last season?

i saw quite a lot of ppl play it

then again it's not the sea server

[blissful plume]

it wasn't as good as the other season heroes

like they smashed stuff with less FE than what selena required

[toxic wing]

did they nerf reap/dot skills ?

[blissful plume]

Yup

Even trauma when they said they buffed it

[toxic wing]

well they certaintly nerf/Buff in a weird way

[blissful plume]

Shotgunning got nerfed somehow

But more buffs for horizontal skills

[toxic wing]

the fe change looks nice though
but i'll prob wait til i pick who i'll play

[blissful plume]

Everyone isn't posting theorycrafts till near launch timing

Because devs are listening

[copper mortar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYCb7VRvrqw

[heavy blaze]

start the game already with p2w stashtabs

[toxic wing]

Needs more quad tabs

[tight kiln]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/s/uml9MNcG1N

[covert frigate]

lmao wtf

[pale atlas]

Lmao happened to me too, except it was worse?

Listed for a div, ok, direct whisper

Their stash name is "items in here are 25 divs"

[viscid fulcrum]

im so glad i play ssf

[pale atlas]

I really don't know what GGG wants, do they want trades or not

Probably wants it with some friction, but current method just makes it all bullshit

[covert frigate]

they want you to feel the weight of your trades

[viscid fulcrum]

yea the burden of talking to these people

[covert frigate]

i dislike interacting with people so much that ive never attempted to trade in POE ever

and i think thats a good idea

[viscid fulcrum]

i think trading is fine for the most part, let people decide if they want to take part or not. i just dont like the price fixers and non responding posts

[covert frigate]

i prefer if they make trading like in MMOs

put an item up for sale, name the price, then if anyone wants that item, they just click buy, the items is automatically sent to them and the payment is automatically sent to you

[viscid fulcrum]

so an auction house

[covert frigate]

yeh

[pale atlas]

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2025870

They have a whole manifesto for their ideals behind trading

[viscid fulcrum]

i like trade as it currently is more than the idea of an auction house

[daring tree]

Ive seen a whole lot of the JP crowd get into this game. dont rememebr og POE being that popular in JP?

[copper mortar]

oh no

[viscid fulcrum]

ah yes another one

[pale atlas]

Hmm maybe an auction house of sorts, but not a free trade, take some currency out

Currency converter already takes gold

[copper mortar]

she settled for a cheaper option

[tight kiln]

WAIT IS SHE BUYING LOL

Oh

[tight kiln]

Ye ive seen like 2 jp creators so far for poe1. Its just that poe2 got popularized.

[daring tree]

But like, particularly been seeing it getting lots of JP attention, with a lot of JP feedback. and discussions probably due to now PC gaming getting more traction over there?

[pale atlas]

Or just simply one of most popular game being played right now, isn't it top 4 or 5 on steam?

Gotta play popular games

Then you get addicted

[daring tree]

Oh really? I wasnt paying much attention to how it was doing compared to everything else, thats cool

[daring tree]

I havent been looking at the jp vtubers outside of Holo so I wonder if any got as addicted as GG Kaela and Biboo.

[pale atlas]

That I'm not too sure on, my circle of vtuber interest is mostly holo, so

Maybe if doki starts playing poe2

[daring tree]

Shes more of an fps player and I dont think Ive seen her play the really grindy games like this one for more than a few stremas

[bronze dirge]

My guild has been guild self-found for many years now
Although we haven't gotten a guildstash for PoE2 yet
Most of us already played enough and went to other games already

No need to deal with trade scammers

[blissful plume]

https://youtu.be/JA4v_XlyBAU?si=IYwkwIehQCRlxdPG

[blissful plume]

CI counted as low life wut?

[copper mortar]

she has a headhunter now

though she chanced 20 belts in a row

[blissful plume]

wtf the odds are low for hh right

[copper mortar]

she is also extorting a guild for one too

[tight kiln]

ye it was

its a bug

okay time to stop poe2 until tli

im lazy to farm

[low ermine]

did they fix it?

I just wasted my 10 breaches map because I blinked to a bad place with tree nearby and mobs got me stucked

[blissful plume]

they fixed it today

[blissful plume]

torchlight starters Y1, R1, E1, I1,2 according to CN

[tight kiln]

what

oh

ye

[heavy blaze]

SHAKA DESU

with kanae both swap from LoL to Poe2

kanae why did you start with a beginner in HC

and he is first one that died

[copper mortar]

when your on the atlas, zoom out and hit esc at the same time

[daring tree]

Why does the tree have so little life and so much ES??

And why even have Erernal Youth when you only got 1 life flask slots?

[covert frigate]

its their new design philosophy

[covert frigate]

i guess so you can drink flask when running CI

[daring tree]

They want everyone to go ES?

[daring tree]

No it sucks for CI cause ES no longer recharges and you are whole dependant on your flask of which you only have 1

Unless Im missing something and flasks recharge super fast endgame even vs bosses

[covert frigate]

they want you to not get hit, and die if you do, but they also suck at balancing so people just stack ES

[covert frigate]

oh it makes ES no longer recharge?

nvm then

[daring tree]

Yeah ES no longer recharges and recovery of life flasks applies to ES instead. Which is fine for CI but only as long as you have enough flasks but you only got 1

So it feels like a copy-paste from PoE1 without considerinf now its honna work in PoE2

[pale atlas]

I kinda miss the flask automation bs

[copper mortar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DEEbkFerTk

found three olgoths in a row

[gleaming palm]

dahek,

[tight kiln]

Skill issue

Stop getting hit then

You also have grim feast which overflows ES by double

And nobody uses eternal youth with CI even in poe1

Just have a fat 14k ES and not worry

[daring tree]

Does any build even use eternal youth even in poe1?

[tight kiln]

Eternal youth is suppose to combo with zealot's oath so excess hp regen is added to ES

Nope

Not that i know of

Because you just run CI Mageblood and kill everything before it touches you

[heavy blaze]

man kaela really spent 500$

[copper mortar]

[gleaming palm]

XD

[tight kiln]

why would you think its fake

[pale atlas]

I'm just glad she loves the game

Need more holomems playing together

[blissful plume]

Why are ppl hoping for an economy reset with a restart patch?

[pale atlas]

cos they're salty dupers got to dupe and they didn't

[tight kiln]

Not even salty its literally hurting the economy lmao

[covert frigate]

i wonder is it possible for them to find which accounts were duping and delete every items originating from those accounts

granted that will hurt people who alr bought those items without knowing that they were duped

[blissful plume]

ggg doesn't have the manpower to do that

[fluid timber]

Ideally if they set up a proper uid audit on items it would be pretty easy. That would require them to have set one up though

[blissful plume]

Doubt they would since trade is in the best ever place it is for them and any improvements would stray too far from the manifesto

[blissful plume]

Hmm gonna start youga1 chain lightning since it doesn't look like they nerfed him

[tight kiln]

Nothing much was nerfed

Lol

[blissful plume]

Ignite did

According to the ppl playing gemma3 ignite

Trauma's buff is barely a buff and more of balancing numbers in line with the other dots

[tight kiln]

Just play path of flames

[blissful plume]

Isn't it not a mobility skill anymore?

Or does the mobility tag not affect gemma3

[tight kiln]

they removed the mobility tag from it

[blissful plume]

Does the tag removal affect gemma3?

[tight kiln]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D16dKK8x5LU

[tight kiln]

i dont think so? path of flames is fire dot too, not ignite

[blissful plume]

Oh so gemma3 works off fire dot and not ignite?

[tight kiln]

path of flames does fire dot no?

then you stack reap

[blissful plume]

I never played gemma3 pof so no idea what it scales from

[tight kiln]

it should be fire dot and reap

[covert frigate]

https://www.twitch.tv/hyper_zio

oh i didnt even know she plays POE2

and shes quite far in too, alr fighting the Chimera

[spiral yew]

nice vaal

[covert frigate]

her build isnt good tho

[tight kiln]

who she

[hot kraken]

does this mean ignite debuff will deal more dmg overtime, right?

[low ermine]

got pretty lucky today, got headhunter on chance and dropped howa on xeht

[heavy blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/okayu-猫又おかゆ-ホロライブ-nekomata-okayu-hololive-gif-27685555

someone rich now

tbh i hate the dupe but thanks to the dupe people can try the temporalis build otherwise no one getting 200 div that easily

[hot kraken]

[fluid timber]

that was the first thing a friend of mine shared to me this morning, absolutely painful

[tight kiln]

Thats 800 usd on the floor

[tight kiln]

Yes.

[covert frigate]

Holy fuck lmao

Id legit just rage quit

[copper mortar]

DCed during a stone citadel and lost the portals

[tight kiln]

Oof

[copper mortar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcEKRVrvA9g

[hot kraken]

Will a breach area continue to expand as long as we kill enough mobs spawned from it?

Sometimes i see it shrinks back after expanding just for a bit

And those times i didn't kill as many mobs as i can due to narrowed map

[blissful plume]

breach just expands till it hits max size before shrinking

[low ermine]

I think it's also you need to kill mobs like to get more timer so the breach lasts longer isnt it?

[tight kiln]

https://youtube.com/shorts/J-IETDs9HrA?si=duPJsGHr2f3QfSDl

[tight kiln]

Nope

Thats delirium

[tight kiln]

https://youtu.be/qpXu9ft9h4M?si=ZcMnNnRmr6aTdwbb

[tight kiln]

https://youtu.be/4zcqSDIMJzA?si=gBRLUPlucQ-lKN0b

[blissful plume]

Ya gonna start this

The start is ring of ice then CL when you get web

[tight kiln]

not sure how well iris 2 will work

i might go back gemma 3 because shes just a stable pick

[blissful plume]

No trust for season pass hero to be op anymore

Selena required too much fe to get going

[blissful plume]

Ugh why couldn't the new season start tomorrow instead of the 10th

[tight kiln]

its your timezone isnt it

its 10th for me

[blissful plume]

My timezone is the same as yours but I'm just saying why couldn't it be earlier

[copper mortar]

btw mirrors are bugged

[blissful plume]

Oh nice

Who needs skills anyway

[hot kraken]

almost

my sceptre has 84% increased spirit

is +5 minion lvl the max on sceptre?

[tight kiln]

yes

+6 for corrupt

+5 is the max for 1 handed

[blissful plume]

Wow 24 hours maint for torchlight

[tight kiln]

ye

[heavy blaze]

everyone want more zoom out but rena play poe with 90% zoom in

[tight kiln]

erika 1 gonna be broken.

[blissful plume]

Mana stacking?

[tight kiln]

ye withj moon blade

[blissful plume]

So u need 5k mana for max 50%

[covert frigate]

lmao wtf

she prefers the immersion i guess

[heavy blaze]

crazy rena still streaming after 6:30h poe

[covert frigate]

only 6:30h?

[pale atlas]

Too used to ela streaming poe2 11:55hr all the time

[covert frigate]

Ela and Hayama

[heavy blaze]

she still going is 7:30am japan man i would prob dying pulling such a all nighter

[heavy blaze]

[tight kiln]

I love how addicted they are

LMAO

[covert frigate]

Id be similarly addicted too if i can run the game better

Experiencing whithdrawal syndrome ever since i uninstalled the game

[tight kiln]

Its time to TLI

You have 1 day to think of your league starter

[covert frigate]

Whats TLI?

[tight kiln]

Torchlight infinite

[covert frigate]

oh i thought it meant smth in the context of poe2 lmao

is the game good? i finished the tutorial and it didnt feel as fun as POE2, or even Diablo 3 for that matter

has writing on par with Diablo 3(not a compliment)

but it does have pretty girls so i might be willing to give it a try if it does get better later on

[toxic wing]

I'll be counting on you to find the op stuff

Wont have electricity for awhile anyways cause they're working in the neighbourhood

[tight kiln]

Fixed a bug where Xesht, We That Are One could sometimes endlessly throw hands

✊ 🤛 🤜

[tight kiln]

same thing as poe1. the end game is where its at. you also zoom faster than poe1, and you dont need mirror tier shit to do that too.

since it has mobile gaming catered into it, most maps cna be cleared under 5 minutes, making it an insane game to just blast mobs on mobile while communting

[covert frigate]

But i hate playing games on mobile

[tight kiln]

also, on the topic of mobile gaming, because it has mobile gaming catered into it, you can literally automate all skills in the game

[covert frigate]

Eew

[tight kiln]

but that takes some investment

its not as easy lmao

[covert frigate]

Automation digusting

[tight kiln]

dont dig it until you try it

when you automate all 5 skills and start blasting the entire screen it feels so good

to me the dopamine is higher than poe1

[covert frigate]

What levelof automation arr we talking? Like vamp surv level?

[tight kiln]

except for mirror drop which we will never get

ye

[covert frigate]

You just move and skills fly out?

Yeh i hate vamp surv

[tight kiln]

yes but those require certain levels of investment

those automation usually costs like

400 divs equivalent

[covert frigate]

So i don't have to automate

[tight kiln]

ye

[covert frigate]

And its cheaper not to?

[tight kiln]

yes

[covert frigate]

Am i allowed to grind for hrs at a time or are there time gate?

[tight kiln]

no time gate

its a fully fleshed out arpg

same shit applies where there are seasons/leagues however

[covert frigate]

You got any gameplay footage of mid-endgame gameplay?

[tight kiln]

uhhh

im not on my home pc

lemme see

[toxic wing]

It's not that bad tbh

I kinda got into it as well
the crafting is much more simple

But the dmg ceilling is something else

[tight kiln]

ye you can do 500 billion dummy dps

[covert frigate]

watching some gameplay and the mob density looks kinda sparse

skills dont have the same impact as POE

that being said, the cute girls are somewhat keeping me on the fence about whether to bother picking it back up or not

[toxic wing]

Depends on the build honestly

But you can try it once you're tired of poe 2 ig worst case scenario

Not sure when we're getting another poe 1 league tbh

But it might be awhile

[tight kiln]

mob density isnt sparse later on no worries

[tight kiln]

feb

so you got 1 month to TLI

[toxic wing]

That early huh

I was expecting 2 more months

[tight kiln]

I only do 153 bil this season

lemme see if i can record a zoom

on my old character

oh nvm i cant

stats changed

oh well

7 mins to 24hrs maintenance

[blissful plume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIImjnylyHM

[blissful plume]

who doesn't like automation? who likes flask piano?

[blissful plume]

could be 2 months if they have to redirect resources to poe2 again

[covert frigate]

i mean its from 5 to 2 flasks now, which i think is good, i dont want flasks to be auto tho

[blissful plume]

poe1 is still 5 flasks

you can try it and do flask piano

[covert frigate]

yeh i mean they reduced it to 2 flasks in 2, which is a good change

idk why ggg thought 5 flasks is necessary

idk what flask automation in poe1 is like but i think its a necessity cause of weird design choice

but like making the game auto play like vamp surv? thats a no for me

[tight kiln]

Its the same shit

Lol

Use the flask every time charges are full

TLI its use the skill every 5 seconds

[covert frigate]

yeh nah i prefer pressing the skills when i need to

and if a game is designed around automating like that, then id rather not play it

[low ermine]

charms now are kinda like auto flask arent they? just with less option

[covert frigate]

theyre also not very useful i feel

i hardly ever see them proc, and definitely not when i need them to

[blissful plume]

oh they proc alright

they just don't cleanse the ailment that activates them

so stun charm procs on stun but you're still stunned

[pale atlas]

I wonder if my golden charm that supposedly gives me bonus IIR actually triggers

[blissful plume]

It triggers after the rare kill

https://tlidb.com/en/Knight_of_Pale_Blue @tight kiln p2w

[tight kiln]

i think i got quite a few tickets saved

[blissful plume]

I don't think there's any selectors for this right?

[tight kiln]

https://maxroll.gg/torchlight-infinite/news/maxroll-ending-support-for-torchlight-infinite

the pet system will be the death of TLi

im ngl

[blissful plume]

In the west maybe

In sea and the east, it'll thrive coz monetization gacha

Just like undecember

[blissful plume]

Honestly I want to see all the react videos to this

[blissful plume]

Lol official torchlight discord arguing for trickle down economics after this came out

[tight kiln]

LOL

[toxic wing]

Nah pets will save the business

Til they don't and tl goes burning down

But yeah i wasn't aware you could get up to 3x as much loot with them

[blissful plume]

They're arguing that the loot pets not too p2w because the ppl that bought the pets will farm more to increase supply for the tradehouse

[blissful plume]

Base legendary pet for canvas gives about 23% more drop quant

Then lvl6 it gets about 73%

More

[toxic wing]

Oh

Lvl 6 is like 6 dupes then?

I forgot how it works

[tight kiln]

https://youtu.be/XI88H-Ll4Ok?si=erlz8ayV6U0Q1T3D

[tight kiln]

5 dupes iirc

[blissful plume]

They have special banners that give you 1 dupe for every pull of the pet

So in total 3 pet pulls get u the full 6

[blissful plume]

https://torchlight.xd.com/en/news/single?id=8uhssuzmZfQe

XD replied

[toxic wing]

We did nothing wrong and we'll continue

[covert frigate]

Damn the game is that bad?

[toxic wing]

In terms of p2w things in arpgs

Yeah

Not as bad as fgo's gacha for example

[covert frigate]

Bruh theres no point in comparing it to a gacha

[toxic wing]

But worse than genshin in my opinion

It is gacha though

They have dupes as well

[covert frigate]

Alright ive heard enough i won't be playing it

[toxic wing]

Surely they'll change their ways

[covert frigate]

To think i almost download a gacha again

[toxic wing]

Most likely not though

[covert frigate]

Its a mobile game lmao of course not

[heavy blaze]

no pactspirit 50% less loot for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBmmZGKzLOU

[blissful plume]

Ugh gotta rush thru campaign and pray everyone can't read how little they nerfed surging for lower prices

[toxic wing]

what's surge again

[blissful plume]

prototype surge unique helmet

[covert frigate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIjFIRjvv8w

shes having a lot of trouble figuring out the djinn fight's mechanics

wtf she won without ever learning the mechanics

[pale atlas]

I dunno if that's how she played, but if you have enough dps, you can do anything

[covert frigate]

her build doesnt look that good so i dont think steamroll with high dps is what shes doing

[slate current]

im doing the int stacker gemling build

and it feels so bad cuz im too broke to buy expensive rings and amulets

feels like im doing no dmg even when i alr have 400+ int

[copper mortar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOEujHI_xUc

[heavy blaze]

e?

[heavy blaze]

stats stacker is only worth when you are rich otherwise the build feels super shit

[copper mortar]

the only thing i'm missing for the build is astra and the rings tbh

oh and howa since it isn't dropping

[slate current]

i got howa and death harp

which are like the main components

[pale atlas]

Aaaa my Inaaaaaa

Apparently this is her first ARPG

Iirc

[tight kiln]

Nah. Genshin is worse.

Wtf Ina

LOL

[tight kiln]

@blissful plume what you playing in 2hrs?

https://www.twitch.tv/ruetoo/clip/SneakyClearKleeNerfBlueBlaster-pdypElf2CYPIBD2o

[tight kiln]

BASEG

[blissful plume]

Youga1 CL

[blissful plume]

Someone on reddit said the whole maxroll farewell letter can be read in Tenkiel's voice and it doesn't sound off from how he speaks

[tight kiln]

LOL

[blissful plume]

genshin doesn't have banners that give you dupes after a single pull

and they let you pull for the pet 3 times to get max dupes

[blissful plume]

have you never heard of the kalandra silent nerf to quantity because if you never played before kalandra then not having pets will also not affect your loot drops because you never experienced how much more drops you're missing

[blissful plume]

@tight kiln LOGIN

[tight kiln]

login

LOGIN

[blissful plume]

0104TLSS7

TalkLightSS7

SS7TALKLIGHT

[low ermine]

What game?

Looks like mobile game interface

[covert frigate]

it is

[blissful plume]

Torchlight infinite

[tight kiln]

thanks i was looking for this

[tight kiln]

ye it is. ARPG on mobile

[blissful plume]

ooo nice free corrosion

[tight kiln]

i dont understand how to play iris 2

LOL

iris 1 seems better im ngl

[blissful plume]

lol

go e1 for mana blade

[tight kiln]

nah

im gonna push and see what happens

just gonna play like iris 1 for now

[blissful plume]

Not much dmg from possessing your spirits?

[tight kiln]

i think i need more levels

it definitely sucks early on

[blissful plume]

Holy shit red chest with 3 cards gives a big boi so large I can't see his hp

[tight kiln]

okay

level 60 makes iris2 nuts

LOL

[blissful plume]

Lol

[tight kiln]

it makes your 2nd spirit turned into merge form as well

so you effectively have 2 boosted

i just crit 1 mil at levle 65

[blissful plume]

@tight kiln you bought this too?

[blissful plume]

Wtf

[tight kiln]

ye

ofc

so pretty

[tight kiln]

This ring is broken

[blissful plume]

Wtf u can get -10 damage taken

[tight kiln]

yeah

[copper mortar]

she got a second one

[tight kiln]

@blissful plume deleted

[blissful plume]

Wow

Shame u can't 1 phase him

[tight kiln]

why is the quality so ass

wtf

[blissful plume]

The new 720p

[tight kiln]

i put curse

now i can probably 1 phase

Nvm i cant

[blissful plume]

Wow no surging inspiration in AH

[tight kiln]

lol

the map bosses are getting melted

fuck i pressed the wrong button

[copper mortar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diLGIocHzL0

[tight kiln]

1st FE drop

[blissful plume]

Rich

[tight kiln]

i can maintain my life degen now

at 949 regen

now i need more for healing

[gleaming palm]

https://x.com/pathofexile/status/1877501765207113991

Path of Exile (@pathofexile) on X

This Sunday, January 12 at 12:30 PST, we’ll release the details of upcoming Patch 0.1.1 for Path of Exile 2 and the issues we are addressing in it.

Following the patch announcement, Game Directors Jonathan and Mark will join the Tavern Talk podcast!

https://t.co/TFQvvILlcN

Twitter · Jan 9, 2025, 11:44 PM

[tight kiln]

nerf archmage

i wanna watch all the stormweaver mald

[covert frigate]

Optimization patch pls i beg

[tight kiln]

@blissful plume time mark 5

[blissful plume]

No more bursty?

[tight kiln]

erosion has better clear

y6ou just walk into a pack of mob and everything gets deleted

TLI's minion AI is 200x better than poe's lmao

its insane how aggressive they are and yet they are always beside you

[blissful plume]

XD is a Chinese gacha game dev after all

Of course their AI is better than a indie company

[tight kiln]

how is a fucking mobile game's minion AI better than a fucking 10 years old #1 ARPG

[blissful plume]

I mean they never learnt anything from poe1

Completely decoupled from any lessons learnt during those years

[blissful plume]

You can tele towards mobs as erosion?

It also helps there's no body blocking

Or tight corridors

It's at least 3 person width

[tight kiln]

im not sure if its a bug, basically i set the minion teleport skill on auto casting. the basic shit is that the minions teleport to me.

but if i turn into a summon the skill makes me teleport to the nearest enemy instead

[blissful plume]

Mouse cursor apparently

[tight kiln]

no

[blissful plume]

Or nearest enemy

Seems like intended behaviour

[tight kiln]

my cursor is in front and it teleports me backwards when there's no enemy

[blissful plume]

[tight kiln]

oh

right

BECAUSE I AM THE MINION

im dumb

nvm

[tight kiln]

it doesnt move to cursor

if there's no emey it teleports to my fucking body

enemy*

coffee is slow

the china strats are already uploaded

[blissful plume]

24/7 marathon for holes in the brain, babeee

They nerfed being able to hop from EU or US servers to spy on Asia ladder

Requires minimum level to see higher levels somehow

[tight kiln]

@blissful plume FATE0110

[blissful plume]

Nice

[heavy blaze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBMscKsjNpk

even more poe from these 2

[tight kiln]

ez money

[blissful plume]

Rich

[tight kiln]

got mah boots

[toxic wing]

@blissful plume did ppl find any fun but good builds yet?

[blissful plume]

for? TL?

[toxic wing]

ye

[blissful plume]

youga1 Chain Lightning is popping off for me

kuo says iris2 is fun after 60

[toxic wing]

he didn't go iris1?

[blissful plume]

youga2 Mind control is a good starter

just a lot of FE to scale beyond t8

[toxic wing]

youga1 chain lightning is less fe?

never played it b4

[blissful plume]

all spells got nerfed

but CL got nerfed like 7%

compared to the rest

its also just a run and don't cast build cause your hero trait makes clones to cast spells for u

[toxic wing]

man the servers are laggy

@blissful plume just to be sure but it's the youga with spacetime illusion

[blissful plume]

yeah space time illusion

normal looking one

the fucked up one is the DoT one

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1a08HqWcrP4w9uKrPSCSIJ0DOaCmhYLiBWFZKuNX6JEI/edit?gid=1512624848#gid=1512624848

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/101X8wVdNJpYegCcNI5rQNUqfbnMbtKB5XGtBek02O7w/htmlview?usp=sharing#

2 reference sheets for y1

respec is free anyway so u can decide if u wanna follow discord or coffee

ice lance is fine to keep using

or u could switch to ring of ice for more clear

lvl27 is the ideal lvl to switch to CL because of convert lightning to cold support

or just use CL from lvl 7 onwards

[toxic wing]

almost at 20 so still might take a bit so yeah

[tight kiln]

Just bum rush farm scraps its so good money

[heavy blaze]

3 rainbow chest

from one kinda meh

[tight kiln]

oh wtf you playing as well?

is that t7?

[heavy blaze]

nah only t4

[tight kiln]

just bum rush to t7

you dont get any shit from the lower tier maps

[heavy blaze]

1st 10er pull

but i have no iris

[blissful plume]

iris1 still works

[hot kraken]

is it ok if i use lower tier maps than 15 but have quantity/rarity mods?

[blissful plume]

Yes if item level isn't a big concern for you

The only thing tiers of maps do is gate the range of affixes item drops have or certain items from dropping

So if you don't mind any of those then lower tier is fine

[hot kraken]

k got it

[tight kiln]

https://youtu.be/UwMqfNxJz1Y?si=QqX_F-1L-XaxFxhS

[tight kiln]

Sir iris 1 is free

[blissful plume]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyVoQZLFONE&list=PLUvbMOoZTPfnI9Nd2356-I1GsiTAZVN9q @toxic wing old vid but a good idea on how to scale dps

[toxic wing]

Still in t2 maps

Still need to convert to lightning chain

Not sure when to since the guide doesnt specifiy it

[blissful plume]

U can already convert in campaign at lvl 27

Just slot the support in

The trees we use all support cold damage

And freeze

[toxic wing]

i don't get this part though why keep the cold damage/freeze stuff?

Isn't lightning chain pure lightning dmg

[blissful plume]

No, we use convert lightning to cold support for it

[toxic wing]

oh i see

so if i switch my main skill to lightning chain now with the support

i should be good

prob need a bit more energy though since i'm still lvl 66

[tight kiln]

@blissful plume found some china strat and my dps nyoom

t7-0 boss btw

[toxic wing]

is that dot dmg or what

[blissful plume]

It's magus dmg

[blissful plume]

Wat strats are they

[blissful plume]

Yeah just follow the fl4k spreadsheet and put lightning to cold convert in 1st support slot

[tight kiln]

apparently you can get magus buff without summoning them

but they still eat mana reservation

[blissful plume]

Huh

Is there a difference?

[tight kiln]

In poe the minion/spectre has to be around in order to get buff

Apparently not so in TLI

[heavy blaze]

okay getting star atlas is such a paint now when is locked behing these challenge stuff

like getting 160% resi or get 30k point on dummy to unlock next path

[blissful plume]

Those star points are actually optional

You can actually exceed the max star points with those

[tight kiln]

^

[blissful plume]

Wtf surging inspiration is at least 2k FE

[heavy blaze]

lucky i found one

[heavy blaze]

for just 5 FE

[blissful plume]

https://youtu.be/p6K-oLgVbbI?si=Q1S9u0HohG5gZn12

[toxic wing]

ok lvl 81 got the two clones passive thingy as well

almost at t6

dmg can def be improved but don't have acces to higher lvl bases yet

also no fe at all

[gleaming palm]

https://x.com/NeverSinkDev/status/1878188868555464809 also its up

NeverSink (@NeverSinkDev) on X

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Twitter · Jan 11, 2025, 9:14 PM

[copper mortar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuGwIuM79a8

[pale atlas]

Is she hooked on poe2 yet

[heavy blaze]

i hit +3 on 1st try how lucky

got just from this corruption 1.2m more dps

[tight kiln]

pog

[blissful plume]

Rich

[heavy blaze]

man farming mark 8 is such a different compare to 7

[tight kiln]

it is

im gonna save money to swap

iris2 is kind annoying

[tight kiln]

what are you playing btw

path of flames gemma 3?

[heavy blaze]

just youga2 MC to farm money but wanna swap dmg is piss low even with decent gear to get more i need like 2x 500+ FE weapon

[heavy blaze]

wait but isnt iris2 with stone golem busted? just slam jump slam

[tight kiln]

im not playing that

LMAO

im also lazy of clicking skills over and over

[heavy blaze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuVN6x808AA wait is just leap slam

[tight kiln]

yeah

but m not gonna play that

[heavy blaze]

isnt ignite super nerfed now? still playable?

https://www.herowik.gg/

[tight kiln]

apparently gemma 3's node got changed to damage taken by enemies so any skills works on her now

[heavy blaze]

Is iris1 thunder spirit cheap ?

[tight kiln]

its decent enough to get going

i played it last league

miyucheese managed to down floor 20 with it last season

but

it might be expensive this league because every fucker is playing minions

[heavy blaze]

ye i saw it ... was looking at gear and was asking why does 1 single belt with minion damage t2 already cost 20FE

[tight kiln]

just crafted it yourself lol

im looking to shift out of iris 2

but idk what to play

koreans are playing gemma 2 spell burst

theres gemma 3 arrow einherjar

[slate current]

is it worth fightining the trialmaster?

[heavy blaze]

what about rehan2 BB?

[copper mortar]

if you're looking for the adorned or the shield then yes

[slate current]

just looking to make money

[heavy blaze]

just sell the trials would be profitable i think unless you have enough dmg but people that want make money dont really have enough dmg in the 1st place haha

[slate current]

yea

my single target dmg is hella strong but my breach clear is so bad

so im farming trials of chaos

[heavy blaze]

best way make money is just running juice breach tables and sell breachstones would be my bet here

[slate current]

trying to pivot over to quarterstaves howa int stacker instead of death harp

so need a lot of money

[copper mortar]

that does require a lot of money even when i have basically 3/4s of it

[tight kiln]

idk about those

[slate current]

was that for your budget version or the endgame 500+ divs one?

[low ermine]

yeah I was wondering too if I should go for trialmaster farm or just stop after the 10 level boss

[copper mortar]

the only thing i'm missing really is astra

[slate current]

i see i see

[heavy blaze]

Trialmaster is not that easy if you count only 1 life so i would go there with cautions

[heavy blaze]

i am thinking about to play selena ice beam

[tight kiln]

im thinking of something nobody is playing

[blissful plume]

They nerfed everything but howling gale for selena

Ringblade support for beam is also broken

[tight kiln]

also yes

ice beam is nerfed

im gonna play erika 2 arrow einherjar

[blissful plume]

How does that work?

Phys to lightning convert?

[tight kiln]

yep

i was thiking gemma 2 or erika 2

erika 2 seems better

[blissful plume]

How do you convert? With slates or legendary gear?

[tight kiln]

no its on the tree

[blissful plume]

Oh does it need thunderspikes to improve numbed?

[tight kiln]

ye the build im following has it

but im not sure if i have the money to implement it

[blissful plume]

Gear cheap?

[heavy blaze]

is the nerf huge or just minor? i mean by minor the build would be still playable look at all the youga 1 Chain lighting even with nerf everyone playing it

[blissful plume]

because y1 CL got nerfed by 7% while every other spells got nerfed too

[blissful plume]

ice beam seems like it got major nerfs also ring blade support does not work at all

so there goes your clear support

[heavy blaze]

hm so its howling gale or gemma 3

[blissful plume]

yup fucker died so easily

[heavy blaze]

i could test gemma 3 for you guys

[heavy blaze]

must be the lvl 56 gloves

[tight kiln]

what do you plan to play

also

i need your help with something

2YKi5NDFEe+GYgAAAAAAFQ==

check this build

and tell me how his necklace is working, not if its not

basically i have the same necklace, i reserved aura with mana and its defnitely not working. i have reserved life and i get no weapon amp aura nor + levels on my main skill. tested on dummy as well

he has reserved aura with mana as well

idk if im high or if im missing something

[blissful plume]

have u tried not using mana to reserve?

also are your restrains also lvl 20?

[tight kiln]

oh

i get it

he just has the 2 fucking auras as a placeholder so he doesnt have to have that annoying exclaimation mark saying YOU HAVE A SKILL SLOT VACANT

[blissful plume]

yeah he's probably leveling 2 restrains with those

[heavy blaze]

tbh dont know if ignite still good or total dog? what is CN playing do you guys have a site ?

[tight kiln]

nah

i just look at their rankings

on the boss kills

nobody is playing ignite

gemma 3 is either path of flame, arrow einherjar

theres currently 2 builds playing ignite

WscLfc/OEe+3GQAAAAAAPg==

eh sorry

thats a starter

oAT0W9CMEe+XqQAAAAAAXA==

this helmet is 600 FE tho

2nd guy is playing ignite. 1st dude is private

2 corrupted ring for 200 base ignite increment

but afaik boss fight the top 2 so far are path of flames on boss 9

[heavy blaze]

i think i save FE and swap to ice lance carion 2 since i can transfere most youga 2 gear to him excpect the legendary

[heavy blaze]

wait is the ranking not global ?

no one play path of flame here but helmet still 400 FE

[blissful plume]

you're probably looking at EU or US rankings

we're on Asia so we see the China rankers

[heavy blaze]

erika must be cheap on asia my whole hero ranking if filled with erika2

[blissful plume]

actually it might be the lvl restriction

probably can't see far enough on the ladder because you aren't high enough?

[heavy blaze]

for sure there is no level restriction but funny thats the ladder is not global

[toxic wing]

poe livestream in 5 mins

atleast that's the time that quin's stream shows

[copper mortar]

20% simu droprate

6 arbiter attempts

[heavy blaze]

https://tenor.com/view/poe2-login-poe2-gif-17607649316887088565

[copper mortar]

no real nerfs until new league/economy

[heavy blaze]

finally 6 portal for shitty arbiter

[copper mortar]

unfortunately no 6 portals for simulacrum

[toxic wing]

the ban elon spam

[gleaming palm]

lol

[copper mortar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNJSDxwC9bY

also realised that arbiter looks like zamorak

[heavy blaze]

i level a carion to 60 to realise the build is way over my budget

[copper mortar]

oh fuck, they may now make bleed bypass energy shield

rip CI if that is the case

[heavy blaze]

oh boy 5 rainbow ones

[heavy blaze]

nah this would kill CI completely unplayable

[copper mortar]

they said that it was meant to target mages and that interaction wasn't intended for PoE2

here's your buff

[viscid fulcrum]

huge

[low ermine]

oh, so no buff/nerf (directly) on build yet until they decided for a new league I guess

[tight kiln]

temporalis mafia very happy stupid people buy temporalis and get resetted

[low ermine]

the dupe exploit?

[tight kiln]

yes

[covert frigate]

no mention of optimization

rip

i still cant play the game it seems

[tight kiln]

just wait for patch notes

or play TLI

[fluid timber]

They mentioned working on load times

[covert frigate]

has cute girls but p2w mobile game, so no

[tight kiln]

cutedog server has pure f2p playing and their dps is higher than me

so idk what you're on

they also farmed more than me

and i have p2w pets

[covert frigate]

whats cutedog server?

[tight kiln]

a poe streamer

https://www.twitch.tv/cutedog_

i have one of the rarest p2w pet too

probably skill issue on my part

[covert frigate]

idk, i see people talk too much about options to pay money to make game easier/increase character power so i avoid, simple as that

[covert frigate]

load time of opening menus, not actual gameplay and loading screen

[fluid timber]

hey it's optimization, therefore your statement as it was, was wrong

[blissful plume]

the game doesn't get easier just because you have pets

[fluid timber]

and I would dare say improving menu loads is an important step because you're flipping through them a lot in an arpg

[covert frigate]

well you see, they never specifically used the word "optimization" thus optimization was never mentioned

[fluid timber]

especially since one of the ones mentioned was the atlas map, with how much time people spend in that endgame having it hitch and load a lot will just make things a slog

[covert frigate]

idk if atlas map lags a lot or not, but act map only takes long to load when you open it, once its open it doesnt lag or anything

[tight kiln]

at least you can zoom out more now

[blissful plume]

@tight kiln wtf there's only 2 lvl21 chain lightnings in trade and they cost at least 1k fe, how is there so little lvl 21 chain lightnings at this point of the season

[tight kiln]

i think nobody farming bosses

thats why

[blissful plume]

Fuck

Guess I gotta do it myself

[tight kiln]

good luck getting one out of 400 skills

and passives

[blissful plume]

But where's all the china farmers

Aren't asia servers the same for China and jp?

Did they finish the season in 3 days again?

[tight kiln]

why farm boss when you can deep space/profound